| ochosi | morning everyone | 08:50 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | hello here too :P | 08:56 |
| ochosi | :) | 08:57 |
| ochosi | trying to get unity-support finalized for greybird | 08:57 |
| ochosi | the theming-side of it is fine | 08:57 |
| knome | uhoh | 08:57 |
| ochosi | i just need to get it to show up in the theme-selector | 08:57 |
| knome | trying to get it in precise now, or in -proposed ? | 08:57 |
| knome | ah, so it's that close to finished :P | 08:57 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit said he wants it in -proposed | 08:58 |
| ochosi | so that's why i'm not hurrying too much | 08:58 |
| knome | ok, sounds good | 08:59 |
| ochosi | but i got the basics tested by carnau | 08:59 |
| ochosi | (should probably try to find at least a second person to look at it) | 08:59 |
| knome | or more, i can tweet if you have simple instructions to save to wiki or website or so | 09:00 |
| ochosi | oh, that sounds like a good idea | 09:01 |
| carnau | ochosi, ¿Why u don't use virtualbox? | 09:01 |
| ochosi | well atm the theme doesn't show in the theme-selector, so the instructions aren't that simple yet | 09:01 |
| knome | does anybody know if the other admin of the G+ group is ever on irc? | 09:01 |
| knome | that would be useful | 09:01 |
| ochosi | carnau: for one, it's a bit different than a real install | 09:01 |
| knome | carnau, more eyes = better testing | 09:01 |
| ochosi | carnau: the other thing is that i did test greybird in a vbox at first and ~beta1 i switched to a real install | 09:02 |
| knome | i can test a thing 20 times and ignore a glitch, then ochosi looks at it once and he goes "OMG!" | 09:02 |
| ochosi | carnau: just haven't installed unity yet because i didn't want to compromise the xubuntu testing environment | 09:02 |
| carnau | knome, sure, don't tell me. I'm a web developer :) | 09:02 |
| * ochosi doesn't like glitches | 09:02 | |
| knome | carnau, me too ;) | 09:02 |
| knome | ...among other things | 09:02 |
| carnau | ochosi, ok, I'll try to ask in #Ubuntu-es | 09:04 |
| ochosi | carnau: thanks! | 09:04 |
| carnau | ochosi, well if someone contacts me, I'll ping you. | 09:12 |
| ochosi | carnau: ok, ty | 09:16 |
| ochosi | carnau, knome: the list of themes in unity is hardcoded :} you _have_ to use ubuntu-tweak (or whatever it's called) to change your theme to anything not hardcoded into unity | 11:26 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: so much for unity-support ^ :} | 11:29 |
| ochosi | pleia2: ping | 11:40 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: awesome | 12:07 |
| ochosi | the reason they gave me was that gnome doesn't support switching themes yet so it wasn't a priority for them to do that this release | 12:09 |
| ochosi | unity will feel pre-windowsxp | 12:10 |
| ochosi | (at least in this respect) | 12:10 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: what I was told was "harcoded list -> design decision" | 12:10 |
| mr_pouit | (and indeed, a comparison with gnome3 that doesn't allow theme switching) | 12:11 |
| ochosi | yes, well they seemed open to changing that for Q | 12:11 |
| mr_pouit | who cares ;> | 12:16 |
| ochosi | yeah, i don't really | 12:17 |
| ochosi | but i'll still probably publish a blog-post about it | 12:17 |
| ochosi | it's nice to emphasize how great unity is in this respect | 12:17 |
| mr_pouit | s/unity/so-called design decision/ | 12:18 |
| ochosi | yeah | 12:19 |
| mr_pouit | (sometimes I feel it's just a good excuse to impose randomly some arbitrary things) | 12:19 |
| mr_pouit | maybe I should start an experimental ppa for 4.10 on precise | 12:20 |
| ochosi | yes! yes! | 12:21 |
| ochosi | :) | 12:21 |
| mr_pouit | with a big, fat disclaimer "if you install that and then complain, you cat will go on a rampage, format your drive and install openbsd" | 12:21 |
| mr_pouit | *your | 12:21 |
| ochosi | hehe | 12:21 |
| mr_pouit | I'll upload that tonight (xfce 4.10pre2 core, so all panel plugins will break) | 12:23 |
| ochosi | hihi | 12:23 |
| ochosi | but i think -final is supposed to be released in a week or so, no? | 12:23 |
| mr_pouit | 28/04 I think | 12:24 |
| ochosi | pretty much same day as the xubuntu release then | 12:24 |
| carnau | ochosi, augh, sounds bad | 12:34 |
| ochosi | carnau: welcome to unity | 12:37 |
| carnau | it's like apple, 30 devices, 1 GUI. | 12:39 |
| carnau | if you want to customize it, f**** you, you only will have what Steve Jobs designed. Like a dictatorship. | 12:41 |
| knome | carnau, watch your language, even obfuscated | 12:52 |
| carnau | knome, sorry, it burns my veins :_( nvm | 12:53 |
| ochosi | knome: i thought i could blog about unity's definciency in terms of setting themes and explain how you can use greybird in unity on xubuntu.org > planet.ubuntu | 13:25 |
| ochosi | knome: or would you rather see that on g+ ? | 13:26 |
| ochosi | pleia2: ^ | 13:26 |
| knome | ochosi, website is fine, we can repost in twitter and g+ | 13:28 |
| ochosi | ok | 13:28 |
| ochosi | was mainly wondering whether you consider it too far offtopic | 13:29 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: if you don't mind i'll merge the unity branch back to gtk3.3 and you can upload that anytime then | 13:29 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: i'll even give you a new tag ;) | 13:29 |
| knome | well, add some stuff generally about greybird too, and it's fine | 13:29 |
| mr_pouit | yay | 13:29 |
| ochosi | but you want this for -proposed, right? | 13:30 |
| mr_pouit | yep, so no hurry | 13:31 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: ok, done :) | 13:33 |
| ochosi | say hello to greybird 0.8 | 13:33 |
| ochosi | we even support gnome metathemes now | 13:33 |
| ochosi | (i.e. setting gtk-theme, icon-theme, cursor-theme and metacity at once) | 13:34 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: wasn't hurrying anyway, the only blocker was the fact that the theme didnt show in unity's theme selector, but now that that's clear... | 13:35 |
| carnau | ochosi, instead gnome-tweak-tool, you can use MyUnity app. | 15:39 |
| pleia2 | knome: I'll play you during the derivatives plenary | 16:27 |
| knome | pleia2, ok;) | 16:31 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: it feels a bit off-topic to me, but if you promise not to use the phrase "unity's definciency" I think it's ok ;) | 16:35 |
| pleia2 | (we don't want to come off as combative, we're all friends in this *buntu world) | 16:36 |
| pleia2 | and unity improves a lot with every release, even if it's still a deficiency now I don't anticipate it will be for long | 16:36 |
| ochosi | pleia2: no, sure, i don't plan on writing anything flamy. but it's a bit odd to me that such a basic feature is missing and sold as "design decision". but anyway, you'll read it before it's published ;) | 18:51 |
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| knome | pleia2, you there? | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:44 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_shots/sneakpeek.png | 20:48 |
| knome | pleia2, ochosi ^ | 20:49 |
| pleia2 | ooh, what plugin? | 20:50 |
| knome | knome's best ever translation plugin | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | :) | 20:50 |
| * pleia2 forks over the cash | 20:50 | |
| knome | hehe | 20:50 |
| knome | well, i'm trying to make it really clean | 20:51 |
| jussi | ooh, can I have that? (assuming wp) | 20:51 |
| jussi | :D | 20:51 |
| knome | jussi, it's 1000€ for you | 20:51 |
| knome | plus vat | 20:51 |
| jussi | bugger! | 20:51 |
| knome | ;) | 20:51 |
| knome | well, let's see when it's ready | 20:51 |
| knome | right now you can't do anything, but most of the so called "infrastructure" is ready | 20:52 |
| ochosi | knome: seriously, you wrote a translation/multilang-plugin? | 21:06 |
| knome | ochosi, i'm on it | 21:07 |
| knome | it's pretty much coding now though | 21:07 |
| knome | plus some headache on the rewrites ;) | 21:07 |
| ochosi | wow | 21:07 |
| ochosi | i'm amazed | 21:07 |
| ochosi | that's something you can sell for $$$ if it works well | 21:08 |
| ochosi | gah, low battery | 21:09 |
| knome | i know | 21:09 |
| ochosi | you know that i'm running out of battery? | 21:09 |
| ochosi | how? | 21:09 |
| knome | i know i can sell it for $$$ :P | 21:09 |
| ochosi | ;) | 21:09 |
| knome | though... | 21:10 |
| ochosi | k, g2g | 21:10 |
| knome | well, let's say i've not decided yet what to do with it ;) | 21:10 |
| ochosi | see ya tomorrow | 21:10 |
| knome | see you | 21:10 |
| knome | i'm off too | 21:35 |
| knome | see you tomorrow | 21:35 |
| Unit193 | Adios. | 21:35 |
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