/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/18/#kubuntu-devel.txt

ScottKIt appears purging my mail data and starting over fixed it.01:44
DarkwingScottK: That is strange though, at least you got it working...02:55
ScottKYeah.02:57
DarkwingJust took 62 pictures of the sunset at the beach.02:58
Darkwingwell, that plus I think 4 or 5 panoramic pictures.02:58
Darkwinghttp://wonderly.com/pictures/BeachSunset4-17-12/03:08
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DarkwingHmmz, no translations?04:28
DarkwingThis means, I have to finish an english only package, gets what wrong, got any updates for an SRU and get with the Translators and figure out if we can get it translated for an SRU.04:29
DarkwingRiddell: ^^04:29
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bulldog98_Darkwing: problem with translations in the past were that e.g. Greman was fully translated, but not included -> annoys translators12:58
RiddellDarkwing: so how's the package going?13:10
BluesKajHi all14:10
afiestasRiddell: added a dependency but now is screaming that can't upload it: https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff/+recipebuild/21810814:54
afiestasit is odd because it was never build correctly :s14:55
Riddellafiestas: I think the version number is only set by the upstream branch14:55
Riddellso commit to the upstream branch and wait or manually edit it in the recipie14:56
afiestasRiddell: already ditted the recipe added {time} so each package will be different14:56
afiestasbut now I don-t see an option to rebuild it14:56
Riddellafiestas: "Request build(s)" link above recipie?15:01
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afiestasRiddell: doesn't appear to me15:46
afiestasIt did before (when I added the missing dependency)15:47
afiestasoh now I see15:52
Quintasan_yofel: care to send me that german news linky?16:20
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yofelQuintasan: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/videoarchiv2.html - you need to select what you want to watch at the right16:26
Quintasanyofel: are there any weather forecasts there?16:27
yofelQuintasan: at the end, yes16:28
Quintasanyay16:28
Quintasanat the end of the news, yes?16:28
yofelright16:29
DarkwingRiddell: Well, I figured out that my validation script was pooly written... Sooo... I'm fixing that right now and I'll have a english docs package to you.16:38
DarkwingThen we will work on getting some translations for an SRU I guess *sighs*16:39
Quintasanyofel: what is taggeshacu16:55
Quintasan?16:55
yofelgerman first television main news at 8PM, translated something like "dailyview"16:56
Quintasanyofel: does that contain forecast as well?16:57
yofelyes16:57
Quintasanthat makes me a happy student16:57
Quintasandownload shit -> burn onto cd -> give to teacher -> receive a grade16:57
QuintasanThis is even more than I needed :D16:57
yofelQuintasan: there's a podcast feed too, you'll find it on gpodder.net17:00
DarkwingI'm going to be speaking in XML by the end of the day17:13
bulldog98_Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P17:15
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yofelbulldog98: <confused>You do?</confused>17:16
bulldog98s/Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P/<begin>Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P</begin>17:16
Darkwing<sarcasm><muttering>Yeah, it's annoying</muttering></sarcasm>17:16
bulldog98<main>yofel: yes</main>17:16
Darkwing<shaking>Must. Have. More. <crazy>coffee</crazy><shaking>17:18
Darkwing*sigh* I picked one helluva week to quit smoking17:19
bulldog98<sarcasm>smoking is good for you Darkwing</sarcasm>17:24
DarkwingLOL17:30
Darkwingbulldog98: I decided that for health reasons I needed to quit17:30
bulldog98Darkwing: yep that’s a good reason17:37
DarkwingI got 3 kids... I need to be healthy for them.17:38
bulldog98and it’s better for them if they see that smoking isn’t good (because their parents don’t smoke)17:43
DarkwingYup17:49
yofelbulldog98: as a fellow btrfs user, have a cookie: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/+recipe/btrfs-tools-daily17:52
bulldog98!cookie yofel17:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cookie yofel17:53
bulldog98~cookie17:53
* bulldog98 hugs yofel17:53
* yofel wonders what happened to kubotu17:53
DarkwingI was about to ask the same...17:53
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DarkwingWasn't apachelogger running that?17:53
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yofelyeah17:54
Darkwingwhere has apachelogger been? I have not seen him active in a while.17:55
yofelme neither, and he didn't answer my last mail either17:55
* Darkwing ponders17:55
Darkwinganyone heard from him?17:55
bulldog98maybe he is sick?17:55
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Darkwinghmmz... rekonq doesn't like box.com17:57
bulldog98Darkwing: what version?17:57
bulldog98Darkwing: tried git version?18:00
Darkwingbulldog98: Not yet.18:00
Darkwing0.9.118:00
bulldog98what is broken?18:01
DarkwingLike, once I login, it isn't reconizing the interface as a web interface and will not let me interact to upload etc...18:01
bulldog98hm can’t test that, cause I don’t have an account (and I don’t want to give away my data)18:02
Darkwinghttp://imm.io/mutt18:03
DarkwingIt changes the curser and will not let me interface..18:03
bulldog98rbelem: I think kubuntu active isn’t working that good, since the patches for plasma active aren’t in kdelibs and kde-workspace18:04
DarkwingBut, I use Chromuim anyway... it shares info with my tablet and my mobile18:04
bulldog98hm18:05
Darkwingkaboom18:15
DarkwingRiddell: pingie18:23
Darkwingdag-nabbit...18:32
DarkwingI forgot I put a new HD in here... *sigh18:32
DarkwingSomeone want to test a package for me?19:17
Darkwinghttp://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/19:18
DarkwingRiddell: Kubuntu-docs package http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/19:19
BarkingFishDarkwing, QApt screams at that, says an older version is available, and it's recommended to install that one instead as it has more support.  19:24
BarkingFishQApt won't install it, I'll put it in manually and check it19:24
* Darkwing mutters19:25
Darkwingwhat did I do wrong then...19:25
BarkingFishno idea - but it does install.  I've just added it through the command line, using dpkg -i and it's gone in with no argument19:26
DarkwingYay!19:26
DarkwingI wonder why QApt is whining....19:27
BarkingFishnot a clue19:28
BarkingFishI'll show you what QApt did19:28
bulldog98Darkwing: use http://paste.kde.org/459614/ to test if $1 is smaller than $2 for dpkg19:28
DarkwingI'm actually comfortable packaging the docs... I'm going to do some more test stuff for myself then starting packaging a lot more.19:29
BarkingFishbugger. I can't do it.  Cause I already added the package through dpkg, I can't reproduce what QApt did19:29
* BarkingFish hits himself for being too damn hasty19:29
* Darkwing pokes yofel19:29
yofelouch19:30
Darkwingyofel: can see you if you can get the same thing that BarkingFish did? I have to help the kids for like 5...19:30
Darkwingyofel: testing http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/19:30
yofellooking19:30
BarkingFishyofel, all I did was go to Darkwing's link, and open it with firefox, to be installed using QApt, and it moaned at me.19:31
bulldog98Darkwing: can reproduce that19:32
* Peace- doesn't work -.- http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/18/plasma-desktopeE1780.png19:32
* Peace- keeps scrippting19:32
yofelyup19:34
yofelJontheEchidna: intentional ^ ?19:34
bulldog98Darkwing: is the deb signed?19:35
bulldog98I‘d say qapt doesn’t install anything that isn’t signed by a key it trusts and yours is not in the database19:36
DarkwingI signed it...19:36
DarkwingBut, what DB does the key need to be in?19:37
bulldog98the apt database19:37
Darkwingit's attacked to me LP but, I think that's it...19:37
Darkwingattached19:37
bulldog98Darkwing: no the local database of apt, which you can manupulate with apt-key, which doesnot contain your key perdefault19:38
Darkwingahhhhhhhhhhhh19:38
* Darkwing looks up the command to do that.19:38
Darkwingbulldog98: So, I add my key there, rebuild and it should work right? *Crosses fingers*19:42
DarkwingSorry for the n00b questions. :D19:42
bulldog98Darkwing: yes now you should be able to install with help of qapt19:42
Darkwingyay. Rebuilding19:45
DarkwingThanks for the help guys :D19:49
DarkwingOkay, re-uploaded... Works here. Riddell it's all yours now :D20:03
ScottKclaydoh: You're madly working on release notes, right?20:06
claydohScottK: , um sure :/ 20:22
claydohwork is settling down, I actually have free time coming up , yay!20:22
DarkwingHey claydoh20:24
claydohhi Darkwing hows things?20:25
DarkwingRough20:25
DarkwingBut, I'm managing.20:25
claydohlol, same here20:26
DarkwingRIP Dick Clark.20:32
claydohsorry I have been so quiet an inactive lately, getting a routine back now20:36
BluesKajDarkwing, he passed ?20:41
DarkwingAye, http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/obit/story/2012-04-18/dick-clark-dies-at-82/54390716/120:41
DarkwingRiddell: dammit, I didn't update control... wait on that.21:29
BarkingFishDarkwing, did you get the QApt problem sorted?21:32
DarkwingYeah, my key wasn't in the apt21:33
DarkwingBut, I'm trying to remember the build-depends commands21:33
DarkwingNeed to fix the debian/control21:33
Darkwingcan we use ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} for the depends?21:35
RiddellDarkwing: ok let me know21:35
DarkwingRiddell: It'll be up in a flash. Lemme fix the control and I'll re-package and upload.21:36
DarkwingRiddell: Check http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/21:54
RiddellDarkwing: yay, works!  uploading22:15
DarkwingRiddell: Awesome!22:15
DarkwingNote, this is english only... There wasn't enough translations reported in.22:16
DarkwingSo, I'll work with the translation teams and we'll have to release translations in an SRU22:16
DarkwingDo we know what "Q" is going to be called yet?22:16
Riddellno I don't think we do22:17
DarkwingRiddell: okay. :)22:18
RiddellScottK: kubuntu-docs for your reviewing pleasure22:18
* Riddell sleeps22:18
DarkwingNight Riddell22:18
BluesKajRiddell, any truth to bkerensa's rumour ?22:19
Darkwingwhat rumour?22:21
BarkingFishApparently, there is a rumor circulating that Kubuntu is going to lose its name, apparently Canonical intend to keep it.22:23
BarkingFishApparently, I smell BS, but I can't say that for certain.22:23
BarkingFishI don't believe they have any right to it22:23
DarkwingWell, they do hold a TM on it... Beyond that everything is speculation.22:24
DarkwingBarkingFish: here is what they own for it all... http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy22:25
BarkingFishwell that's easily bypassed. we just call ourselves UbuntuK22:26
BarkingFishthey can't do shit22:26
BarkingFishsorry, apologies for the language22:27
DarkwingPart of the restrictions: Use of a name which includes the letters BUNTU in relation to computer hardware or software.22:27
Darkwingand yes, they have it legally registered.22:27
BarkingFishAny mark ending with the letters UBUNTU or BUNTU is sufficiently similar to one or more of the trademarks that permission will be needed in order to use it.22:27
DarkwingBarkingFish: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ohim?ohimnum=E454166122:27
BarkingFishnote - ending...  not beginning with - that is very specific22:28
DarkwingBarkingFish: That is Kubuntu as a Registered TM from Canonical.22:28
ScottKRiddell: OK.  I'll have a look.22:32
ScottKRiddell: I looked at a 5MB diff and punted.22:49
ScottKDarkwing: It's in.22:49
DarkwingScottK: Sweet. 5MB diff?22:50
ScottKFrom the previous package.22:50
DarkwingAhhh, yeah. nothing was translated. :/22:51
ScottKDarkwing and Riddell: Should be add the docs to the CDs?  They will fit (no translations helps).23:24
DarkwingScottK: The plan is to release an SRU with translations if I can get the translators to work with me.23:25
ScottKOK and that would affect 12.04.1.23:25
ScottKThat would be right on the edge. Better not then.23:26
Darkwingyes, there will be another 5MB addition (Closer to match the Oneiric docs package) for 12.04.1. I don't think if we are that starved for space, it would be a good idea.23:27
ScottKOne time effort, not that big a deal.  Probably half a dozen or so.23:28
ScottKAcutally 11.23:36
* Darkwing nods23:37
ScottK14 at the moment, but the review caused me to file three removal bugs.23:38
DarkwingScottK: Is that for the CD image?23:52
ScottKNo, it's 14 in the archive.23:52
DarkwingI meant for the docs package... my bad23:53
ScottKNone of the three I filed removal bugs are on any image.23:53
ScottKyes.23:53
* Darkwing thought there was something about removing the 700mb images...23:53
ScottKNext cycle.23:54
ScottKWe're using 702 now though.23:54
ScottKwe could put it on the dvd though.23:55
ScottKtons of room there and we don't usually respin those for point releases anyway.23:55
Darkwingyeah.23:56
DarkwingI thought I had remembered a conversation re that.. But after the LTS.23:56

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