[01:44] <ScottK> It appears purging my mail data and starting over fixed it.
[02:55] <Darkwing> ScottK: That is strange though, at least you got it working...
[02:57] <ScottK> Yeah.
[02:58] <Darkwing> Just took 62 pictures of the sunset at the beach.
[02:58] <Darkwing> well, that plus I think 4 or 5 panoramic pictures.
[03:08] <Darkwing> http://wonderly.com/pictures/BeachSunset4-17-12/
[04:28] <Darkwing> Hmmz, no translations?
[04:29] <Darkwing> This means, I have to finish an english only package, gets what wrong, got any updates for an SRU and get with the Translators and figure out if we can get it translated for an SRU.
[04:29] <Darkwing> Riddell: ^^
[12:58] <bulldog98_> Darkwing: problem with translations in the past were that e.g. Greman was fully translated, but not included -> annoys translators
[13:10] <Riddell> Darkwing: so how's the package going?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:54] <afiestas> Riddell: added a dependency but now is screaming that can't upload it: https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff/+recipebuild/218108
[14:55] <afiestas> it is odd because it was never build correctly :s
[14:55] <Riddell> afiestas: I think the version number is only set by the upstream branch
[14:56] <Riddell> so commit to the upstream branch and wait or manually edit it in the recipie
[14:56] <afiestas> Riddell: already ditted the recipe added {time} so each package will be different
[14:56] <afiestas> but now I don-t see an option to rebuild it
[15:01] <Riddell> afiestas: "Request build(s)" link above recipie?
[15:46] <afiestas> Riddell: doesn't appear to me
[15:47] <afiestas> It did before (when I added the missing dependency)
[15:52] <afiestas> oh now I see
[16:20] <Quintasan_> yofel: care to send me that german news linky?
[16:26] <yofel> Quintasan: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/videoarchiv2.html - you need to select what you want to watch at the right
[16:27] <Quintasan> yofel: are there any weather forecasts there?
[16:28] <yofel> Quintasan: at the end, yes
[16:28] <Quintasan> yay
[16:28] <Quintasan> at the end of the news, yes?
[16:29] <yofel> right
[16:38] <Darkwing> Riddell: Well, I figured out that my validation script was pooly written... Sooo... I'm fixing that right now and I'll have a english docs package to you.
[16:39] <Darkwing> Then we will work on getting some translations for an SRU I guess *sighs*
[16:55] <Quintasan> yofel: what is taggeshacu
[16:55] <Quintasan> ?
[16:56] <yofel> german first television main news at 8PM, translated something like "dailyview"
[16:57] <Quintasan> yofel: does that contain forecast as well?
[16:57] <yofel> yes
[16:57] <Quintasan> that makes me a happy student
[16:57] <Quintasan> download shit -> burn onto cd -> give to teacher -> receive a grade
[16:57] <Quintasan> This is even more than I needed :D
[17:00] <yofel> Quintasan: there's a podcast feed too, you'll find it on gpodder.net
[17:13] <Darkwing> I'm going to be speaking in XML by the end of the day
[17:15] <bulldog98_> Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P
[17:16] <yofel> bulldog98: <confused>You do?</confused>
[17:16] <bulldog98> s/Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P/<begin>Darkwing: hm I always speak in XML :P</begin>
Yeah, it's annoying</muttering></sarcasm>
yofel: yes</main>
Must. Have. More. <crazy>coffee</crazy><shaking>
[17:19] <Darkwing> *sigh* I picked one helluva week to quit smoking
smoking is good for you Darkwing</sarcasm>
[17:30] <Darkwing> LOL
[17:30] <Darkwing> bulldog98: I decided that for health reasons I needed to quit
[17:37] <bulldog98> Darkwing: yep that’s a good reason
[17:38] <Darkwing> I got 3 kids... I need to be healthy for them.
[17:43] <bulldog98> and it’s better for them if they see that smoking isn’t good (because their parents don’t smoke)
[17:49] <Darkwing> Yup
[17:52] <yofel> bulldog98: as a fellow btrfs user, have a cookie: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/+recipe/btrfs-tools-daily
[17:52] <bulldog98> !cookie yofel
[17:53] <bulldog98> ~cookie
[17:53]  * bulldog98 hugs yofel
[17:53]  * yofel wonders what happened to kubotu
[17:53] <Darkwing> I was about to ask the same...
[17:53] <Darkwing> Wasn't apachelogger running that?
[17:54] <yofel> yeah
[17:55] <Darkwing> where has apachelogger been? I have not seen him active in a while.
[17:55] <yofel> me neither, and he didn't answer my last mail either
[17:55]  * Darkwing ponders
[17:55] <Darkwing> anyone heard from him?
[17:55] <bulldog98> maybe he is sick?
[17:57] <Darkwing> hmmz... rekonq doesn't like box.com
[17:57] <bulldog98> Darkwing: what version?
[18:00] <bulldog98> Darkwing: tried git version?
[18:00] <Darkwing> bulldog98: Not yet.
[18:00] <Darkwing> 0.9.1
[18:01] <bulldog98> what is broken?
[18:01] <Darkwing> Like, once I login, it isn't reconizing the interface as a web interface and will not let me interact to upload etc...
[18:02] <bulldog98> hm can’t test that, cause I don’t have an account (and I don’t want to give away my data)
[18:03] <Darkwing> http://imm.io/mutt
[18:03] <Darkwing> It changes the curser and will not let me interface..
[18:04] <bulldog98> rbelem: I think kubuntu active isn’t working that good, since the patches for plasma active aren’t in kdelibs and kde-workspace
[18:04] <Darkwing> But, I use Chromuim anyway... it shares info with my tablet and my mobile
[18:05] <bulldog98> hm
[18:15] <Darkwing> kaboom
[18:23] <Darkwing> Riddell: pingie
[18:32] <Darkwing> dag-nabbit...
[18:32] <Darkwing> I forgot I put a new HD in here... *sigh
[19:17] <Darkwing> Someone want to test a package for me?
[19:18] <Darkwing> http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/
[19:19] <Darkwing> Riddell: Kubuntu-docs package http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/
[19:24] <BarkingFish> Darkwing, QApt screams at that, says an older version is available, and it's recommended to install that one instead as it has more support.  
[19:24] <BarkingFish> QApt won't install it, I'll put it in manually and check it
[19:25]  * Darkwing mutters
[19:25] <Darkwing> what did I do wrong then...
[19:26] <BarkingFish> no idea - but it does install.  I've just added it through the command line, using dpkg -i and it's gone in with no argument
[19:26] <Darkwing> Yay!
[19:27] <Darkwing> I wonder why QApt is whining....
[19:28] <BarkingFish> not a clue
[19:28] <BarkingFish> I'll show you what QApt did
[19:28] <bulldog98> Darkwing: use http://paste.kde.org/459614/ to test if $1 is smaller than $2 for dpkg
[19:29] <Darkwing> I'm actually comfortable packaging the docs... I'm going to do some more test stuff for myself then starting packaging a lot more.
[19:29] <BarkingFish> bugger. I can't do it.  Cause I already added the package through dpkg, I can't reproduce what QApt did
[19:29]  * BarkingFish hits himself for being too damn hasty
[19:29]  * Darkwing pokes yofel
[19:30] <yofel> ouch
[19:30] <Darkwing> yofel: can see you if you can get the same thing that BarkingFish did? I have to help the kids for like 5...
[19:30] <Darkwing> yofel: testing http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/
[19:30] <yofel> looking
[19:31] <BarkingFish> yofel, all I did was go to Darkwing's link, and open it with firefox, to be installed using QApt, and it moaned at me.
[19:32] <bulldog98> Darkwing: can reproduce that
[19:32]  * Peace- doesn't work -.- http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/18/plasma-desktopeE1780.png
[19:32]  * Peace- keeps scrippting
[19:34] <yofel> yup
[19:34] <yofel> JontheEchidna: intentional ^ ?
[19:35] <bulldog98> Darkwing: is the deb signed?
[19:36] <bulldog98> I‘d say qapt doesn’t install anything that isn’t signed by a key it trusts and yours is not in the database
[19:36] <Darkwing> I signed it...
[19:37] <Darkwing> But, what DB does the key need to be in?
[19:37] <bulldog98> the apt database
[19:37] <Darkwing> it's attacked to me LP but, I think that's it...
[19:37] <Darkwing> attached
[19:38] <bulldog98> Darkwing: no the local database of apt, which you can manupulate with apt-key, which doesnot contain your key perdefault
[19:38] <Darkwing> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:38]  * Darkwing looks up the command to do that.
[19:42] <Darkwing> bulldog98: So, I add my key there, rebuild and it should work right? *Crosses fingers*
[19:42] <Darkwing> Sorry for the n00b questions. :D
[19:42] <bulldog98> Darkwing: yes now you should be able to install with help of qapt
[19:45] <Darkwing> yay. Rebuilding
[19:49] <Darkwing> Thanks for the help guys :D
[20:03] <Darkwing> Okay, re-uploaded... Works here. Riddell it's all yours now :D
[20:06] <ScottK> claydoh: You're madly working on release notes, right?
[20:22] <claydoh> ScottK: , um sure :/ 
[20:22] <claydoh> work is settling down, I actually have free time coming up , yay!
[20:24] <Darkwing> Hey claydoh
[20:25] <claydoh> hi Darkwing hows things?
[20:25] <Darkwing> Rough
[20:25] <Darkwing> But, I'm managing.
[20:26] <claydoh> lol, same here
[20:32] <Darkwing> RIP Dick Clark.
[20:36] <claydoh> sorry I have been so quiet an inactive lately, getting a routine back now
[20:41] <BluesKaj> Darkwing, he passed ?
[20:41] <Darkwing> Aye, http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/obit/story/2012-04-18/dick-clark-dies-at-82/54390716/1
[21:29] <Darkwing> Riddell: dammit, I didn't update control... wait on that.
[21:32] <BarkingFish> Darkwing, did you get the QApt problem sorted?
[21:33] <Darkwing> Yeah, my key wasn't in the apt
[21:33] <Darkwing> But, I'm trying to remember the build-depends commands
[21:33] <Darkwing> Need to fix the debian/control
[21:35] <Darkwing> can we use ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} for the depends?
[21:35] <Riddell> Darkwing: ok let me know
[21:36] <Darkwing> Riddell: It'll be up in a flash. Lemme fix the control and I'll re-package and upload.
[21:54] <Darkwing> Riddell: Check http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/
[22:15] <Riddell> Darkwing: yay, works!  uploading
[22:15] <Darkwing> Riddell: Awesome!
[22:16] <Darkwing> Note, this is english only... There wasn't enough translations reported in.
[22:16] <Darkwing> So, I'll work with the translation teams and we'll have to release translations in an SRU
[22:16] <Darkwing> Do we know what "Q" is going to be called yet?
[22:17] <Riddell> no I don't think we do
[22:18] <Darkwing> Riddell: okay. :)
[22:18] <Riddell> ScottK: kubuntu-docs for your reviewing pleasure
[22:18]  * Riddell sleeps
[22:18] <Darkwing> Night Riddell
[22:19] <BluesKaj> Riddell, any truth to bkerensa's rumour ?
[22:21] <Darkwing> what rumour?
[22:23] <BarkingFish> Apparently, there is a rumor circulating that Kubuntu is going to lose its name, apparently Canonical intend to keep it.
[22:23] <BarkingFish> Apparently, I smell BS, but I can't say that for certain.
[22:23] <BarkingFish> I don't believe they have any right to it
[22:24] <Darkwing> Well, they do hold a TM on it... Beyond that everything is speculation.
[22:25] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: here is what they own for it all... http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[22:26] <BarkingFish> well that's easily bypassed. we just call ourselves UbuntuK
[22:26] <BarkingFish> they can't do shit
[22:27] <BarkingFish> sorry, apologies for the language
[22:27] <Darkwing> Part of the restrictions: Use of a name which includes the letters BUNTU in relation to computer hardware or software.
[22:27] <Darkwing> and yes, they have it legally registered.
[22:27] <BarkingFish> Any mark ending with the letters UBUNTU or BUNTU is sufficiently similar to one or more of the trademarks that permission will be needed in order to use it.
[22:27] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ohim?ohimnum=E4541661
[22:28] <BarkingFish> note - ending...  not beginning with - that is very specific
[22:28] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: That is Kubuntu as a Registered TM from Canonical.
[22:32] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  I'll have a look.
[22:49] <ScottK> Riddell: I looked at a 5MB diff and punted.
[22:49] <ScottK> Darkwing: It's in.
[22:50] <Darkwing> ScottK: Sweet. 5MB diff?
[22:50] <ScottK> From the previous package.
[22:51] <Darkwing> Ahhh, yeah. nothing was translated. :/
[23:24] <ScottK> Darkwing and Riddell: Should be add the docs to the CDs?  They will fit (no translations helps).
[23:25] <Darkwing> ScottK: The plan is to release an SRU with translations if I can get the translators to work with me.
[23:25] <ScottK> OK and that would affect 12.04.1.
[23:26] <ScottK> That would be right on the edge. Better not then.
[23:27] <Darkwing> yes, there will be another 5MB addition (Closer to match the Oneiric docs package) for 12.04.1. I don't think if we are that starved for space, it would be a good idea.
[23:28] <ScottK> One time effort, not that big a deal.  Probably half a dozen or so.
[23:36] <ScottK> Acutally 11.
[23:37]  * Darkwing nods
[23:38] <ScottK> 14 at the moment, but the review caused me to file three removal bugs.
[23:52] <Darkwing> ScottK: Is that for the CD image?
[23:52] <ScottK> No, it's 14 in the archive.
[23:53] <Darkwing> I meant for the docs package... my bad
[23:53] <ScottK> None of the three I filed removal bugs are on any image.
[23:53] <ScottK> yes.
[23:53]  * Darkwing thought there was something about removing the 700mb images...
[23:54] <ScottK> Next cycle.
[23:54] <ScottK> We're using 702 now though.
[23:55] <ScottK> we could put it on the dvd though.
[23:55] <ScottK> tons of room there and we don't usually respin those for point releases anyway.
[23:56] <Darkwing> yeah.
[23:56] <Darkwing> I thought I had remembered a conversation re that.. But after the LTS.