| SpamapS | hlan: euca-get-console-output can be helpful | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| SpamapS | hlan: or ec2-get-console-output if you prefer :) | 00:19 |
| hlan | SpamapS: is this the same as "Get system log" in the ec2 gui? | 00:24 |
| SpamapS | hlan: probably, I've never used the gui | 00:24 |
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| === Arc_ is now known as a5m0 | ||
| hlan | I just installed the daily precise ami I found here http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/ | 01:10 |
| hlan | as I probably need to update the kernel ASAP. | 01:10 |
| Laice | hey there | 01:10 |
| hlan | I see some weird daemons running... "whoopsie" | 01:10 |
| Laice | got an issue with 3 dedicateds when we set a keepalive on the ssh connection is constantly refused | 01:11 |
| Laice | ending up in us having to reimage the servers ¬.¬ | 01:11 |
| hlan | the biggest problem is that dnsmasq is running for some reason and it's preventing me from booting my DNS server | 01:11 |
| hlan | how can I remove dnsmasq... apt-get tells me that dnsmasq isn't even installed?? | 01:14 |
| hlan | and I can't find anything in init.d | 01:14 |
| blendedbychris | i had a do-package-upgrade going and i got disconnected from ssh… can i resume the upgrade somehow (or the ssh session) ? | 01:17 |
| blendedbychris | release-upgrade* | 01:18 |
| Laice | i'm having problems with ssh aswell | 01:25 |
| greppy | blendedbychris: I know it won't help this time, but you may want to look at using screen or tmux in the future... | 01:27 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I'm attempting to setup a MaaS server on Ubuntu 12.04, but my nodes keep hanging at "init: cloud-init-nonet main process (256) killed by TERM signal" | 01:31 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Can anyone help? | 01:31 |
| bigjools | I can try | 01:31 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Thanks :-) | 01:31 |
| bigjools | having said that I am more familiar with the webapp side of things than cloud-init | 01:32 |
| bigjools | smoser, any idea? ^ | 01:32 |
| DiabolicalGamer | hmm, if I could login to the nodes themselves or access their logs that would really help | 01:33 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #984499 in net-snmp (main) "snmpd fails to upgrade on do-release-upgrade -d from oneiric to precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984499 | 01:36 |
| hlan | after upgrading to precise htop shows weird ââ characters in the process list... weird | 01:41 |
| hlan | perhaps some unicode support or something that messes with the layout? | 01:41 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I think I may have found the problem... | 01:42 |
| DiabolicalGamer | http://pastebin.com/JPw9F5FN | 01:43 |
| DiabolicalGamer | My apache error log is full of these and they appear whenever the cloud-init-nonet runs | 01:43 |
| DiabolicalGamer | any ideas? | 01:44 |
| hlan | crap, just tested upgrading to ubuntu precise to fix my ec2 kernel crash, just had the exact same behavior :/ | 01:44 |
| hlan | so I just ruled out upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 | 01:45 |
| hlan | and the system log is dead silent as usual... | 01:45 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: ah I know | 01:45 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: the clock is wrong on the node | 01:45 |
| DiabolicalGamer | lol | 01:45 |
| DiabolicalGamer | is that all? | 01:45 |
| bigjools | well either the node or the maas server | 01:45 |
| DiabolicalGamer | *facepalm* | 01:46 |
| bigjools | yeah, it breaks OAuth if they are too different | 01:46 |
| DiabolicalGamer | it must be the nodes then because I configured the system clock when I installed ubuntu on the cloud controller | 01:46 |
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| DiabolicalGamer | is there a way to force the nodes to run ntp-update? | 02:02 |
| DiabolicalGamer | *ntpdate | 02:03 |
| DiabolicalGamer | OMG it worked! | 02:12 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Thanks bigjools | 02:12 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: yay! | 02:12 |
| bigjools | we know this is a bug, just need to work out a good way of fixing it | 02:13 |
| DiabolicalGamer | That error should be much more noisy. | 02:13 |
| DiabolicalGamer | like "Hey guy you forgot to set your clock!" | 02:13 |
| DiabolicalGamer | lol | 02:13 |
| bigjools | it should not be noisy at all, it should work | 02:13 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I had to set my clock to a weird time to get it working | 02:14 |
| bigjools | weird as in "eleventy past fiveses" ? | 02:14 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I think it has to do with timezones or something | 02:15 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I just did the math and changed it to what "should" work and it did | 02:16 |
| Laice | *punches sshd_config in the face* | 02:18 |
| blendedbychris | testing? | 02:23 |
| blendedbychris | Hey all.. I just upgraded to ubuntu precise and my interfaces are not coming up for some reason… any help? | 02:24 |
| blendedbychris | They are still configured from my lucid install | 02:24 |
| Laice | you updated to 12.04 beta? | 02:24 |
| blendedbychris | yes | 02:24 |
| Laice | what's in the interfaces file | 02:25 |
| blendedbychris | eh crap uhm | 02:26 |
| Laice | "/etc/network/interfaces | 02:26 |
| Laice | ignore the " | 02:26 |
| blendedbychris | gotta type this out really stupid pptp is all forwarded | 02:26 |
| blendedbychris | auto eth0 | 02:26 |
| blendedbychris | iface eth0 inet static | 02:26 |
| blendedbychris | pre-up /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg on | 02:26 |
| Laice | use paste.ubuntu.com mate | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | address 10.16.26.135 | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | can't :( | 02:27 |
| Laice | :'( | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | I promise I would | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | I'd have to disconnect from my kvm | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | netmask 255.255.255.192 | 02:27 |
| Laice | is 10.16.26.135 an internal? | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | up route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 10.16.26.129 | 02:27 |
| blendedbychris | yes | 02:28 |
| blendedbychris | really just worred about that atm | 02:28 |
| Laice | i can't see an external ip | 02:28 |
| Laice | that why you can't connect? | 02:28 |
| blendedbychris | i'm just worried about the internal atm… ifconfig has neither interface listed just lo | 02:28 |
| Laice | hmm | 02:28 |
| blendedbychris | maybe a driver issue? | 02:29 |
| blendedbychris | or pre-up ? | 02:29 |
| Laice | does iftop bring any interfaces up | 02:29 |
| blendedbychris | oh ya… there's no such thing as /usr/sbin/ethtool | 02:29 |
| Laice | was this a dist-upgrade from your provider or using one of their images? | 02:29 |
| Laice | sorry brb one sec | 02:30 |
| blendedbychris | well provider to precise | 02:30 |
| blendedbychris | i'm going to comment out the pre-p crap | 02:30 |
| blendedbychris | ya that fixes it | 02:31 |
| blendedbychris | any idea if that's necessary? | 02:31 |
| Laice | pass varies by provider | 02:33 |
| Laice | tbh on the dist upgrade | 02:33 |
| Laice | it should have asked you about changes to the interfaces file | 02:33 |
| Laice | showing you what lines it wanted to add and which lines it wanted to remove. | 02:34 |
| blendedbychris | well I'm sure there were no changes | 02:34 |
| Laice | *sets up 4th dedicated server in 24 hours* | 02:34 |
| Laice | well technically 7th if you include the 3 i bricked ¬.¬ | 02:34 |
| blendedbychris | but /usr/sbin changed to /sbin | 02:34 |
| Laice | on my fresh 11.10 installs i have one in both /sbin and /usr/sbin | 02:37 |
| hlan | I don't have any "/proc/sys/fs/inode-max", why is that? :/ | 02:39 |
| Laice | nor do it | 02:39 |
| Laice | i* | 02:39 |
| Laice | 3 terminals open one on each desktop pasting the same line into every one. Joy. lol. | 02:46 |
| blendedbychris | is there an easy way to create an image of a server? | 02:47 |
| Laice | clonezilla | 02:48 |
| blendedbychris | Laice: does that work for ext4? | 02:49 |
| blendedbychris | or a better question why would i use that vs dd | 02:49 |
| blendedbychris | bleh | 02:53 |
| Laice | pass | 02:54 |
| blendedbychris | huh? | 02:54 |
| Laice | i'm passing the question :P might say on clonezilla.org | 02:54 |
| blendedbychris | i don't even know how to get started using clonezilla heh | 02:54 |
| blendedbychris | especially in a hosted environment | 02:54 |
| Laice | if all else should fail PUSH ALL OF THE BUTTONS. something will happen eventually | 02:55 |
| blendedbychris | he | 02:55 |
| Laice | the faster you push the buttons the better the server admin you are :p | 02:55 |
| Laice | plus it makes you look more clever. Mostly as they can't see you're flailing around xD | 02:56 |
| blendedbychris | bleh this isn't worth the effort | 02:56 |
| Laice | how much do you pay for your vps? | 02:57 |
| blendedbychris | i wanted to clone a clean precise install so i didn't have to go through that networking crapola | 02:57 |
| blendedbychris | oh we use softlayer and get ripped of royally for our vps | 02:57 |
| Laice | get a kimsufi dedicated | 02:57 |
| Laice | cheap as hell | 02:57 |
| blendedbychris | not my decision | 02:57 |
| Laice | is in europe anyway | 02:57 |
| Laice | heh | 02:57 |
| Laice | money speaks louder than words :P | 02:57 |
| blendedbychris | i use linode for my nonwork stuff | 02:58 |
| blendedbychris | the big factor though for work is we need some sort of mass storage | 02:58 |
| blendedbychris | and most vps providers don't really offer that | 02:58 |
| Laice | it amazes me that people go for a VPS when dedicateds work out to be better value and in many cases cheaper. | 02:58 |
| blendedbychris | yea when you start adding more storage dedicated is cheaper | 02:59 |
| Laice | 20$ per month gets me 5TB bandwith a 4 core 1.8ghz atom and 2gb ram. perfect for small hostings | 02:59 |
| Laice | which is why we have a cluser of them :P | 02:59 |
| blendedbychris | atom wtf? | 02:59 |
| Laice | cluster* | 02:59 |
| Laice | better than someone screwing your vps's cpu | 03:00 |
| blendedbychris | linode is the same but you share 8cpu 4cores | 03:00 |
| Laice | euch | 03:00 |
| Laice | it's the "share" bit i hate | 03:00 |
| blendedbychris | lmfa my news just had a image they showed online that had a watermark "Web Viewing Only" | 03:00 |
| blendedbychris | er | 03:01 |
| blendedbychris | on tv rather | 03:01 |
| Laice | *picards* | 03:01 |
| blendedbychris | Laice: do you know of a quick way to copy a server to another? | 03:01 |
| blendedbychris | same hardware and drives | 03:01 |
| Laice | clonezilla. | 03:01 |
| blendedbychris | would i boot the livecd on a new server? | 03:02 |
| blendedbychris | the* | 03:02 |
| Laice | does support ext4 looking at this http://clonezilla.org/ | 03:02 |
| Laice | looks like you can save the image to another partition | 03:04 |
| blendedbychris | my issue is i use the whole drive though? | 03:04 |
| blendedbychris | bleh | 03:05 |
| blendedbychris | too much of a hassel | 03:05 |
| Laice | no pain no gain | 03:05 |
| Laice | or in this case, no pain in reimaging :P | 03:05 |
| Laice | i swear i'm gonna make a script for configuring the server automatically once it's reimaged | 03:06 |
| blendedbychris | the stupd little 1gb storage they give you for this kind of crap isn't even working | 03:06 |
| Laice | lol made me laugh they offer you at ovh for $1 per month a technitian will walk into the data cente and plug a usb stick in. | 03:06 |
| blendedbychris | bargain | 03:07 |
| Laice | probably would get annoyed about me ringing up and saying "uh, could you plug it into this server now please, now this one, now this one...." | 03:07 |
| blendedbychris | retards just jumped into the pool outside…. it's like 60degs | 03:07 |
| blendedbychris | "ohhh it's so cold" | 03:08 |
| the1_ | anyone here knows how to assign variables in #cloud-config user-data so I use the values multiple times? | 03:08 |
| twb | blendedbychris: 60 is warm unless you're a silly yankee imperialist | 03:15 |
| twb | Or I guess a scientist... | 03:15 |
| Laice | what's that in real money (*C) | 03:17 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Okay another road block here... MaaS is working, but now JuJu is complaining. | 03:17 |
| blendedbychris | or live in texas | 03:17 |
| DiabolicalGamer | http://pastebin.com/wTWBAXeS | 03:20 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Any help would be greatly appreciated. | 03:20 |
| twb | This whole cloud thing is actually secrets just a game to make up as many acronyms as possible, isn't it | 03:21 |
| twb | s/secrets/secretly/ | 03:21 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I was beginning to wonder that myself | 03:22 |
| DiabolicalGamer | http://pastebin.com/LqkjUzvR | 03:29 |
| DiabolicalGamer | So it seems like juju is breaking the maas api | 03:29 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Any ideas? | 03:29 |
| blendedbychris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DbkvYMIjIu4 | 03:32 |
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| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: looking for you now | 03:43 |
| DiabolicalGamer | thanks | 03:43 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: is this the first time you ran bootstrap? | 03:44 |
| DiabolicalGamer | yes | 03:44 |
| bigjools | which version of juju are you using? | 03:44 |
| bigjools | if it's the latest from the ppa that's ok | 03:45 |
| DiabolicalGamer | latest ppa | 03:45 |
| bigjools | the whole maas server log would be useful too | 03:45 |
| DiabolicalGamer | the /var/log/maas/maas.log? | 03:47 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: yes | 03:48 |
| DiabolicalGamer | bigjools: Here -> http://pastebin.com/i9VPmJAn | 03:52 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: you have done something weird with your database | 03:54 |
| DiabolicalGamer | It's a fresh install | 03:54 |
| bigjools | you added some nodes? | 03:55 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Yes | 03:55 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Two | 03:55 |
| bigjools | what status are they | 03:55 |
| bigjools | ? | 03:55 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Ready | 03:55 |
| bigjools | ok so you commissioned them already? | 03:55 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Yes | 03:55 |
| bigjools | can you try destroying the juju env and bootstrap again | 03:56 |
| bigjools | this is obviously a bug but I want to try and work out where the problem is before you delete the evidence :) | 03:56 |
| DiabolicalGamer | hmm I'm not sure what you mean by destroying juju | 03:57 |
| DiabolicalGamer | do u mean purging? | 03:57 |
| bigjools | juju destroy-environment | 03:57 |
| DiabolicalGamer | oh lol | 03:57 |
| bigjools | something is out of sync between juju and maas | 03:58 |
| bigjools | so let's start from scratch | 03:58 |
| DiabolicalGamer | okay done | 03:58 |
| bigjools | and bootstrap again | 03:59 |
| DiabolicalGamer | hmm same error | 03:59 |
| bigjools | ok | 04:00 |
| DiabolicalGamer | 2012-04-17 20:59:48,751 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'maas' (origin: ppa type: maas)... Unexpected Error interacting with provider: 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR 2012-04-17 20:59:49,100 ERROR Unexpected Error interacting with provider: 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR | 04:00 |
| bigjools | not sure if this works on the packaged version, but try "maas dbshell" | 04:00 |
| bigjools | should get a psql prompt | 04:00 |
| DiabolicalGamer | lol sudo thinks maas is a user not a command | 04:01 |
| bigjools | it is :) | 04:01 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I know, but it's asking for the password linked to the maas account rather than mine when I sudo | 04:02 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I don't know it's password | 04:03 |
| bigjools | it doesn't have one IIRC | 04:03 |
| bigjools | sudo -u maas maas dbshell ? | 04:04 |
| === jtv-afk is now known as jtv | ||
| DiabolicalGamer | psql: fe_sendauth: no password supplied | 04:06 |
| DiabolicalGamer | won't let me in | 04:06 |
| DiabolicalGamer | even if I sudo su - | 04:06 |
| bigjools | darn it, ok sorry I'm not too familiar with what happened in the packaging, I only worked in the dev environment. Ummm let me think | 04:06 |
| bigjools | try adding a PGUSER=maas | 04:07 |
| * bigjools clutching at straws | 04:08 | |
| DiabolicalGamer | hmm no go | 04:09 |
| DiabolicalGamer | even used passwd to assign maas a password | 04:09 |
| DiabolicalGamer | still nothing | 04:09 |
| bigjools | yeah it's the DB password | 04:09 |
| roaksoax | DiabolicalGamer: did you upgrade or where did you see that issue? | 04:09 |
| bigjools | roaksoax, my man! | 04:10 |
| roaksoax | DiabolicalGamer: the password one? what versions of maas are you using? | 04:10 |
| roaksoax | bigjools: lol | 04:10 |
| DiabolicalGamer | one sec | 04:10 |
| bigjools | roaksoax: trying to get a psql prompt on his maas db | 04:10 |
| bigjools | so I can see what state the nodes are in etc | 04:11 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: do you have a ssh key created? | 04:11 |
| DiabolicalGamer | yes | 04:11 |
| bigjools | fjlacoste: he's not getting that far | 04:11 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: the pastebin you provided is cropped | 04:11 |
| DiabolicalGamer | following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure | 04:11 |
| bigjools | something is blowing up with bootstrap | 04:11 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: can you paste them again with full line length? | 04:12 |
| fjlacoste | (without the $ add the end) | 04:12 |
| bigjools | and from the logs, some of the nodes are already allocated but in status READY | 04:12 |
| bigjools | fjlacoste: http://pastebin.com/i9VPmJAn | 04:12 |
| DiabolicalGamer | sure moving the log from linux to windows must've messed it up | 04:12 |
| bigjools | the full one you did is fine | 04:13 |
| roaksoax | sudo maas dbshell needs a password | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | bigjools: that error is a red herring | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | it's because public-keys raise a 404 | 04:13 |
| roaksoax | you'll find the DB pass in /etc/maas/maas_local_settings.py | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | which is expected behavior | 04:13 |
| bigjools | fjlacoste: not convinced about that | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | bigjools: i am *sure* about this | 04:13 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I didn't have my ssh key set at first, then I set it. | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | i have seen that error several times | 04:13 |
| bigjools | fjlacoste: ok :) | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | and it's benign | 04:13 |
| fjlacoste | simply add ssh keys to your account and it will disappear | 04:14 |
| fjlacoste | but it's not the root cause | 04:14 |
| bigjools | weird | 04:14 |
| bigjools | wtf is causing that | 04:14 |
| bigjools | the maas api doesn't care about ssh keys | 04:14 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I already have an ssh key added... | 04:14 |
| bigjools | maas api for juju I mean | 04:14 |
| DiabolicalGamer | okay I got into the postgre shell | 04:15 |
| fjlacoste | ah, i know what it is | 04:15 |
| fjlacoste | that's because the owner isn't created | 04:15 |
| bigjools | fjlacoste: I think commissioning left the user allocated on the node | 04:16 |
| fjlacoste | yeah | 04:16 |
| fjlacoste | we fixed that | 04:16 |
| bigjools | we did | 04:16 |
| bigjools | but which version is he using? :) | 04:16 |
| roaksoax | but that's not in archives | 04:16 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: are you running the latest package from testing? | 04:16 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: but do not upgrade to the testing ppa for now | 04:16 |
| fjlacoste | the new maas-provision package is broken | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | on upgrade | 04:17 |
| DiabolicalGamer | No all stable | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | yeah | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | so that one has that bug | 04:17 |
| bigjools | yeah | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | you can workaround by resetting the owner | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | in the DB | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | or you can wait a few minutes | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | for roaksoax to upload a fixed maas-provision package | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | and then update to the testing ppa | 04:17 |
| fjlacoste | let me know if you want the DB surgery workaround | 04:18 |
| fjlacoste | it's actually documented in the bug | 04:18 |
| fjlacoste | let me paste you the bug number | 04:18 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: in the dbshell, update massserver_node set owner=null; | 04:18 |
| DiabolicalGamer | can I manually download the necessary deb package? | 04:18 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: no, because it depends on maas-provisioning | 04:18 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/981068 | 04:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 981068 in maas "AssertionError when attempting to acquire a node after commissioning" [Critical,Fix released] | 04:19 |
| DiabolicalGamer | bigjools: are you sure that's right? | 04:20 |
| DiabolicalGamer | massserver_node or maasserver_node | 04:20 |
| DiabolicalGamer | it through an error | 04:20 |
| bigjools | oops | 04:20 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: in the dbshell, update maasserver_node set owner=null; | 04:20 |
| bigjools | :) | 04:21 |
| DiabolicalGamer | okay that worked lol | 04:21 |
| DiabolicalGamer | so should that fix it or do I need to change anything else? | 04:21 |
| bigjools | bootstrap again | 04:21 |
| DiabolicalGamer | still no go | 04:22 |
| DiabolicalGamer | same error when bootstrapping | 04:22 |
| bigjools | destroy again | 04:22 |
| bigjools | and restart maas | 04:23 |
| * bigjools has to run out in a couple of mins | 04:24 | |
| DiabolicalGamer | rebooting... | 04:25 |
| bigjools | if that doesn't work, delete the nodes, re-commission, apply the sql above and then bootstrap | 04:26 |
| DiabolicalGamer | the command for the dbshell isn't working anymore | 04:28 |
| bigjools | what does it say?> | 04:28 |
| bigjools | and I have to go now unfortunately, I'll be back in an hour | 04:28 |
| DiabolicalGamer | ERROR: column "owner" of relation "maasserver_node" does not exist LINE 1: update maasserver_node set owner=null; | 04:28 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: the bug as a better workaround | 04:28 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: and an updated maas-provision is building in the testing ppa | 04:29 |
| DiabolicalGamer | cool, glad to hear it :-) | 04:31 |
| DiabolicalGamer | can you link me to the testing ppa? | 04:32 |
| blendedbychris | is it possible to clone packages on another server? | 04:39 |
| blendedbychris | build a cluster of servers with the same software | 04:39 |
| SpamapS | blendedbychris: yes but what you really want is config management | 04:43 |
| SpamapS | blendedbychris: not just packages.. config files.. everything | 04:43 |
| SpamapS | blendedbychris: for that, there's juju, puppet, chef, cfengine. :) juju is more than config management.. but its hard to explain :) | 04:45 |
| twb | And does juju require an interpreter be installed on every node? :-/ | 04:46 |
| twb | grumble puppet grumble | 04:46 |
| SpamapS | twb: juju uses an agent | 04:46 |
| SpamapS | currently written in python, though its being rewritten in go | 04:47 |
| twb | Haha | 04:47 |
| twb | bandwagons are go | 04:47 |
| SpamapS | go executables are standalone, so no interpreter then :) | 04:47 |
| SpamapS | twb: I haven't really seen anybody on the "go" bandwagon other than us juju interested people. :-P | 04:48 |
| twb | Oh, wow, I didn't know Pike and Thompson were co-authors. They should advertise it as P&T Go, not Google Go | 04:48 |
| lifeless | sako: aka plan 10. | 04:49 |
| lifeless | bah | 04:49 |
| lifeless | twb: ^ | 04:49 |
| lifeless | sako: sorry. | 04:49 |
| blendedbychris | SpamapS: i have been using csync for configuration management | 04:50 |
| blendedbychris | think it's worth the effort for two servers? | 04:50 |
| blendedbychris | (if you've already halfway configured the otehr | 04:51 |
| twb | Though I won't be really happy until scheme (with opt-in mutable cons cells) takes over the world... | 04:51 |
| twb | lifeless: neither of them are listed first on wikipedia though | 04:52 |
| fjlacoste | DiabolicalGamer: you can upgrade to the testing ppa | 05:01 |
| blendedbychris | anyone here use lsynd? | 05:28 |
| blendedbychris | I have no idea how to configure the keypair | 05:28 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | 05:49 |
| blendedbychris | is there a csync2 alternative… i fricking hate setting up inet.d an djunk | 06:11 |
| blendedbychris | and* | 06:11 |
| blendedbychris | there should be a tool as easy as lsyncd | 06:11 |
| twb | blendedbychris: I didn't understand a word of that. | 06:13 |
| blendedbychris | csync2 configuration involves installing something for xinet.d and configuring private/public keys beyond what's already root. | 06:15 |
| blendedbychris | just looking for an alternative | 06:15 |
| blendedbychris | puppet seems to be a popular one | 06:16 |
| blendedbychris | it doesn't run as a daemon i think is why i find it so difficult to install | 06:19 |
| sbeattie | blendedbychris: you're looking for configuration synchronization? | 06:20 |
| blendedbychris | yes | 06:20 |
| blendedbychris | just something that will copy config and restart the appropriate service | 06:20 |
| jeeves_moss | is there a way of removing 2 drives from a pool without replacing them? I have 2 IDE and 4 SATA drives. The IDEs are throwing errors, and I suspect slowing down the pool | 06:22 |
| sbeattie | bcfg2, puppet, and cfengine are the traditional approaches to that, but all may be a bit more complex than you're looking for | 06:22 |
| twb | puppet has a daemon (puppetmaster) that serves configuration management to its slaves (puppet), which are IIRC invoked by cron | 06:23 |
| andol | twb: Well, the intended approach for Puppet is to also run the client/slave as a daemon, and then have it configured to do its thing with regular time intervals, but it is also possible to run the puppet client standalone from cron. | 06:24 |
| twb | One popular way of running puppet is entirely by hand -- you write the "manifest" with an editor, copy it to the host in question, and run puppet directly on it | 06:24 |
| andol | Yeah, that second approach fits nicely with having the manifests in a git repo, on a nfs share, or so. | 06:25 |
| twb | haha, my recorded bitching about puppet, was with you | 06:28 |
| twb | http://paste.debian.net/163630/ | 06:28 |
| twb | blendedbychris: how many boxes do you have? | 06:29 |
| blendedbychris | 2 haha | 06:30 |
| twb | blendedbychris: it is definitely not worth the effort | 06:30 |
| twb | blendedbychris: do it by hand | 06:30 |
| twb | (FSVO it = configuration management) | 06:30 |
| blendedbychris | i've done csync2 before with two nodes | 06:30 |
| blendedbychris | it was helpful | 06:30 |
| twb | IMO you need >16 hosts before it's worth caring | 06:30 |
| blendedbychris | i don't get why they intend it to be so damn "secure" | 06:31 |
| twb | blendedbychris: because it amounts to a privileged RPC | 06:31 |
| blendedbychris | my thoughts are … shared root keys with lsyncd is just as insecure | 06:32 |
| blendedbychris | or rather privs | 06:32 |
| twb | I am not familiar with lsyncd, but obviously in assymetric cryptography, it is a failure /a priori/ to share/reuse private keys between principals. | 06:33 |
| blendedbychris | no idea what that means | 06:33 |
| blendedbychris | all i had to do is ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id on root to get it going | 06:34 |
| twb | blendedbychris: you don't know what you're doing, and if you try to deploy ANY kind of configuration management, you are going to hurt yourself and probably others. | 06:35 |
| blendedbychris | indeed | 06:35 |
| andol | twb: Well, at least we ended up agreeing on something :) | 06:38 |
| blendedbychris | glad we are all learning here | 06:39 |
| jeeves_moss | is there a way to remove a disk from a ZFS pool? | 06:44 |
| twb | jeeves_moss: NFI, have you asked #opensolaris or #solaris? | 06:47 |
| twb | Hell there might even be a #zfs | 06:47 |
| jeeves_moss | twb, not yet, but I bet no one is there tonight | 06:47 |
| jeeves_moss | twb, thanks. I've asked in all 3 channels | 06:48 |
| linocisco | hi all, I want to setup VPN with the existing ipstar dish in each remote office sites like a star topology. Can accomplish using ubuntu server? | 07:00 |
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| TylerWhitney | two USB hard drives on a home Ubuntu server, 1TB and 2TB; I need to have the full 3TB... plan on using them as just a means to do an identical mirror of just ONE USB3 drive connected to a different computer in the home, over the network. Trying to decide on the level of RAID I setup using mdadm (linux raid) ... I'm going between RAID0 (obviously no redundancy, but better IO and performance | 07:13 |
| TylerWhitney | maybe) vs. non-raid JBOD (straight concatenation, again no redundancy, but if one fails I don't lose all) ......... thoughts? | 07:13 |
| twb | So wait, you actually have one each of 1TB, 2TB and 3TB, and you want to RAID0 the first two, and then mirror that with the 3TB? | 07:16 |
| TylerWhitney | sort of yeah, lol | 07:16 |
| TylerWhitney | nvm, just realize raid0 would not give full 3tb, dumb question: so if I do go about my actions it would be jbod I need to go with | 07:17 |
| twb | Is the 3TB disk already provisioned? | 07:17 |
| TylerWhitney | twb: but yes, you are correct in that I have one of each drive | 07:17 |
| twb | Obviously the best choice would be to simply buy a second 3TB and raid1 it; 3TBs are around AU$220 at present. | 07:17 |
| TylerWhitney | yes, and full of data; I want some sort of backup/redundant solution to it... preferably using the two disks (1TB and 2TB) I already have hanging out | 07:18 |
| twb | If you're *booting* off the 3TB it is non-trivial to RAID it and still continue booting | 07:18 |
| TylerWhitney | no booting, simply just a USB "data" drive | 07:18 |
| twb | If it's just (say) /home, then you can do it with not too much hassle | 07:18 |
| TylerWhitney | yes, I completely agree with you, the "best" choice, lol | 07:18 |
| twb | if it's in a USB enclosure, you should take it out and connect it over SATA before RAIDing it | 07:19 |
| TylerWhitney | twb: thats a great point, I was considering asking that! | 07:19 |
| twb | RAID over USB is significantly more flaky -- apart from anything else, you cannot use SMART to check HDD health | 07:19 |
| TylerWhitney | currently, the two drives are connected to the server via USB and a JBOD (using mdadm) is setup and thye are formatting as ext3 | 07:20 |
| TylerWhitney | but I think I will probably take them out and go straight SATA | 07:20 |
| TylerWhitney | definitely faster speeds | 07:20 |
| TylerWhitney | Im sort of just playing around until I get around to purchasing another 3TB to mirror to | 07:20 |
| twb | What you want to do is hook up all three over SATA, then mdadm --create -n2 -l0 /dev/md0 /dev/2tb /dev/1tb | 07:21 |
| twb | Then mdadm --create -l1 <create degraded> /dev/md1 /dev/md0 | 07:21 |
| TylerWhitney | well currently, the 3TB is connected via USB3 to a windows box and is my main data store... | 07:21 |
| twb | Then you provision the fs on top of md1 (the degraded RAID1), then you add the original 3T as a node to md1 | 07:21 |
| TylerWhitney | nested raid then? | 07:22 |
| twb | Yes, you are doing half RAID10 and half RAID1 | 07:22 |
| TylerWhitney | I see | 07:22 |
| twb | (RAID1 (RAID0 1t 2t) 3t) | 07:22 |
| twb | If you see what I mean | 07:22 |
| TylerWhitney | indeed | 07:22 |
| TylerWhitney | well first step take these bad boys out of USB enclosures | 07:23 |
| twb | But if this is for work, you really should just tell them to drop $200 for hardware, because it will be cheaper and require less downtime and be more reliable | 07:23 |
| TylerWhitney | no definitely not for work | 07:23 |
| TylerWhitney | just me playing around with redundancy at home | 07:23 |
| TylerWhitney | hence me being cheap | 07:23 |
| TylerWhitney | thanks for the wisdom twb | 07:24 |
| TylerWhitney | Im going to play and try a few things... I like the nested RAID (RAID1 (RAID0 1t 2t) 3t) very cool idea | 07:25 |
| RoyK | TylerWhitney: might be better to use mirrors at the bottom, so multiple mirrors are striped etc | 07:30 |
| blendedbychris | how can i figure out what mta is installed on a system? | 07:42 |
| WuxiIxuw | Please any one here tried vps from rocketvps.com ? any feed back please? | 08:57 |
| cornfeed | good morning | 11:40 |
| railsraider | hi i want to compleytly remove all iptables and install arno-firewall | 12:32 |
| railsraider | iptables -F doesn't work as arno fails to load the config | 12:32 |
| railsraider | how do i completely remove flush reset the iptables | 12:33 |
| al-maisan | Is there a way to add a rule to the default security group from CloudInit for an aws ec2 instance? | 12:42 |
| WuxiIxuw | please i'd like to secure the vps using ubuntu 10.4 lts ... where exactly i can found what can ido from a to z ? | 13:07 |
| resno | WuxiIxuw: install fail2ban | 13:22 |
| resno | and really depends on how far you want to go... the choice is to secure it vs make it easy to access for you and users | 13:23 |
| WuxiIxuw | resno: what else? | 13:39 |
| resno | i asked a question | 13:42 |
| resno | whats more improtant security or accessiblity? | 13:42 |
| cldwalker | hi all, anyone know a way to skip the configuration dialog when installing postfix? DEBIAN_FRONTEND=interactive and -y aren't working | 14:12 |
| Jeeves_ | Well, interactive is wrong | 14:15 |
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| Jeeves_ | noninteractive might work better | 14:16 |
| esuave | anyone ever have problems with SNMPD and a trap divide error from the kernel? | 14:17 |
| cldwalker | Jeeves_: my bad, I meant noninteractive which doesn't work | 14:20 |
| Jeeves_ | cldwalker: Oh, ok. | 14:20 |
| mamuskus | Hi ! | 14:21 |
| lamont | cldwalker: remind me which question in the postfix config I hate? | 14:26 |
| cldwalker | lamont: all of them? i'm trying to automate installing a package that depends on postfix but I'm not using any postfix functionality | 14:29 |
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| macnix | after adding a new apt source and run apt-get update, the new packages are not picked up in the context of the same shell script | 14:36 |
| macnix | if I run the same shell script again, all works fine | 14:37 |
| macnix | what am I missing here? | 14:37 |
| lamont | cldwalker: ISTR that all but one question is preseedable (and maybe I fixed that?). the questions it asks are questions that must be answered | 14:39 |
| Pici | macnix: I don't think we can really troubleshoot without seeing the script. | 14:39 |
| macnix | Pici: got it, the problem was a previously create conf while which the package prompted about the action | 15:34 |
| macnix | created* | 15:35 |
| macnix | created conf file* | 15:35 |
| ironm | hello. may I ask what virtualization would you recommend for precise? KVM, row Xen or XCP? Thank you in advance for any hints. | 15:43 |
| ironm | another question. I have tested shortly virt-manager to manage KVM VMs. Is there a better choice? | 15:46 |
| failover | ironm, if simplicity counts, stick with KVM, it's easier to install and use... | 15:58 |
| ironm | failover, I have tested XCP (XenServer) before. It looks to be much more complicated to manage it. | 16:00 |
| ironm | failover, would you recommend virt-manager? .. or ist there a better tool? | 16:00 |
| ironm | thanks a lot for your hint failover :) | 16:00 |
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| failover | ironm, virt-manager sound's ok, a lot of people use stuff like proxmox too | 16:03 |
| ironm | I have to check it proxmox is a commercial tool or GPL based one | 16:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #961344 in maas (main) "[MIR] maas" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961344 | 16:51 |
| Jak2000 | hi all | 17:01 |
| Jak2000 | how to stop the firewall? | 17:01 |
| patdk-wk | flush all the iptables rule lists :) | 17:02 |
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| Jak2000 | service iptables stop | 17:03 |
| Jak2000 | wont work :( | 17:03 |
| patdk-wk | I don't remember saying that | 17:03 |
| patdk-wk | http://www.adminsehow.com/2009/08/how-to-clear-all-iptables-rules/ | 17:04 |
| patdk-wk | yay for google :) | 17:04 |
| EvilResistance | i thought iptables wasnt a service? | 17:05 |
| patdk-wk | it's not :) | 17:05 |
| EvilResistance | Jak2000, sudo iptables -F <-- flushes the firewall | 17:05 |
| EvilResistance | it'll clear out any rules and default to ACCEPT on everything i tihink | 17:05 |
| EvilResistance | (I think...) | 17:05 |
| patdk-wk | EvilResistance, only the normal ones, not nat or mangle or raw tables | 17:05 |
| EvilResistance | of course :P | 17:06 |
| patdk-wk | it's always mangle that I need cleaned :) | 17:06 |
| EvilResistance | patdk-wk, can't save an iptables.flushed.rules in /etc/, and do iptables-restore M /etc/iptables.fulshed.rules ? | 17:06 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 17:06 |
| Jak2000 | but i not want flush the oiptables | 17:07 |
| Jak2000 | i only want stop the iptables | 17:07 |
| patdk-wk | you can't *stop* iptables | 17:07 |
| patdk-wk | as iptables isn't a daemon | 17:07 |
| EvilResistance | ^ | 17:07 |
| patdk-wk | therefor it doesn't *run* | 17:07 |
| EvilResistance | yep | 17:07 |
| patdk-wk | if you really want to stop it. unload all kernel modules related to it | 17:07 |
| patdk-wk | OR turn off your computer | 17:07 |
| EvilResistance | otherwise, flush the iptables rules | 17:07 |
| Jak2000 | :( | 17:07 |
| EvilResistance | (which we've said to do) | 17:08 |
| Pici | by default there aren't any rules. | 17:08 |
| Jak2000 | i opened a port: | 17:08 |
| EvilResistance | indeed | 17:08 |
| Jak2000 | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT | 17:08 |
| EvilResistance | Jak2000, if you're behind a router, you need to forward your ports at the router too | 17:09 |
| EvilResistance | or behind a corporate firewall, same deal | 17:09 |
| EvilResistance | (if you're trying to get connections from the external network aka the internet) | 17:09 |
| Pici | mysql shouldn't require any extra steps network-wise. | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | except removing the line that binds it to localhost | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | (last i checked that's still the default setup) | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | or the line that skips networking (which means its only bound to 127.0.0.1:port | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | ) | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | s/bound/listening on/ | 17:10 |
| EvilResistance | Jak2000, are you trying to get MySQL to listen to requests from outside your system? | 17:15 |
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| Jak2000 | EvilResistance yes :) | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | Jak2000, i dont have my linux nearby, but ideally you need to do two things: (1) set bind-address=[IP] and (2) comment out the skip-networking lines in the configs for mysql | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | then service mysql restart | 17:23 |
| EvilResistance | (remember to edit the config with superuser/sudo and to use sudo with service mysql restart) | 17:23 |
| EvilResistance | where [IP] in (1) is your server/system's IP address | 17:23 |
| Jak2000 | EvilResistance ok thx | 17:24 |
| EvilResistance | and leave the iptables rule you added | 17:25 |
| EvilResistance | (and remember: default mysql server setups don't bind to an internet-listening area, it by default only listens locally (127.0.0.1) | 17:25 |
| Jak2000 | EvilResistance: set bind-address is on my.cnf right? | 17:26 |
| EvilResistance | mhm | 17:27 |
| EvilResistance | same with comment out skip-networking | 17:27 |
| * EvilResistance forgot the name of the conf file, hence why he said "I'm not near my linux machine" | 17:27 | |
| Jak2000 | ok | 17:28 |
| Jak2000 | EvilResistance: how to remove these iptables rule: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT | 17:29 |
| EvilResistance | no need | 17:29 |
| EvilResistance | otherwise, if you really want to purge that rule, you have to figure out whether you have other rules | 17:29 |
| EvilResistance | if you have other rules, you have to know which # rule that rule is in the table | 17:29 |
| Jak2000 | ok | 17:29 |
| EvilResistance | and the iptables -D INPUT # or w/e it is | 17:29 |
| Jak2000 | done i can connectfrom out of the server :) | 17:30 |
| EvilResistance | to wipe all iptables rules, iptables -F | 17:30 |
| Jak2000 | thx | 17:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #985099 in openssh (main) "ssh long waiting time (delay) on 12.04 (not on 11.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985099 | 17:42 |
| blendedbychris | any stunnel users around? | 17:45 |
| blendedbychris | trying to troubleshoot why the thing isn't doing anything and it doesn't spit anything in the log | 17:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #944179 in samba (main) "smbd crashed with SIGABRT in rep_strlcpy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944179 | 18:21 |
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| Unkn0wn | apache: sh: id: not found | 19:23 |
| Unkn0wn | What could be causing this behavior? | 19:23 |
| Unkn0wn | it is in the apache error log | 19:24 |
| axisys | why would eth0:1 not come up? I had to up it manually and then it gives odd error message | 20:01 |
| axisys | details: http://dpaste.com/733885/ | 20:01 |
| utlemming | [NOTICE] New S3-Backed EC2 mirrors are being activated. Please see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud/2012-April/000752.html for more information | 20:42 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #985249 in txzookeeper (universe) "[FFE] Latest juju version includes critical features" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985249 | 21:51 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Hello Everyone | 21:55 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I'm still trying to get MaaS to work, but I'm not sure I added the correct testing ppa. | 21:56 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Is this the correct one? -> https://launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/+archive/testing | 21:57 |
| DiabolicalGamer | Also the delete option for a node is blurred out because it claims they are busy. | 22:00 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I managed to force a delete by modifying the url, however this was severely bugged and led to duplicate mac address entries. | 22:00 |
| hallyn | Ursinha: looking at bug 984381, i marked it as affecting oneiric, but lp won't give me a row where i can set it confirmed for oneiric. ? | 22:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 984381 in php5 "PHP 5.3.6-13ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch crashes when using SPLFixedArray built-in class" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984381 | 22:13 |
| Ursinha | hallyn, let me see | 22:13 |
| Ursinha | hallyn, check now | 22:13 |
| Ursinha | hallyn, the nomination needed approval | 22:14 |
| Ursinha | I approved that and you might be able to see it now | 22:14 |
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| hallyn | thanks, Ursinha. I've seen that before, never understood it. | 22:14 |
| hallyn | What's the point? | 22:15 |
| Ursinha | that is because anyone can nominate a bug to a release, but that's not necessarily true | 22:15 |
| Ursinha | so a person that has appropriated permissions can evaluate if a task for a given series is worth having | 22:15 |
| Ursinha | anyone can indicate a problem happens in a release, but only a few can confirm that | 22:16 |
| Ursinha | that's so we won't have unmanageable loads of past releases bugs that will never be looked at/aren't valid to be backported/aren't bugs | 22:18 |
| Ursinha | hallyn, but I guess you should be able to approve that? | 22:18 |
| Ursinha | hallyn, bdmurray knows it better | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #981845 in maas "Ephemeral image doesn't include version of cloud-init supporting MAAS" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981845 | 22:22 |
| hallyn | Ursinha: ok, thanks. (yes, I was figuring that bugsquad members would have the perms, but maybe it has to do with per-package upload rights) | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | hallyn: can you upload php5? | 22:22 |
| hallyn | i'd have to check | 22:22 |
| hallyn | (and don't have the archive acl tools handy) | 22:22 |
| hallyn | i would think i would through the server set, which i have upload rights to | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | for nominations and release targettin the way it works is bug control can nominate | 22:23 |
| hallyn | but i'm not coredev and never asked for (or wanted) php5 rights explicitly | 22:23 |
| bdmurray | then uploaders or some other team can approve | 22:23 |
| bdmurray | anyway afaict you can't upload php5 | 22:26 |
| hallyn | bdmurray: just checked, php5 does not appear to be in server set, so that all makes sense | 22:27 |
| hallyn | (I would think it *should* be, but...) | 22:28 |
| hallyn | thanks both, good night | 22:28 |
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| DiabolicalGamer | anyone from the MaaS server team here? | 22:56 |
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| DiabolicalGamer | Anyone know where the password for the MaaS api is? | 23:21 |
| bigjools | DiabolicalGamer: there's no password, you set up an oauth key | 23:21 |
| DiabolicalGamer | I think my configuration got reset because it's throwing an auth error | 23:21 |
| bigjools | check the same key is still in use | 23:22 |
| JRWR | I wanted some advice on a file system to use on across 5-10 servers that have a shared block device (iSCSI), GlusterFS and LusterFS seem to be it, but they dont say anything about shared block device support | 23:41 |
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