[00:00] <dax> yeah, I've been spying on Planet KDE. The Plasma Active stuff looks fun.
[00:01] <pleia2> dax: it's deeper than polish a derivitive can add, it's more about debian's committment to freeness that makes it a bit tricky for normal people (installing a lot of stuff is really a pain, now we even have a whole separate package for nonfree drivers that were "free enough" in previous releases)
[00:02] <pleia2> I respect their decision to go that way and the reasons behind it, I just think it makes for a poor desktop user experience
[00:02] <pleia2> on the bright side, at least it warns me and tells me to install the non-free drivers package before I reboot my server and lose my NIC :)
[00:02] <dax> pleia2: ah, you mean those things. I was thinking more "desktop OS" as in the desktop environment once you set everything up
[00:03] <dax> Debian's KDE stuff isn't as polished as Ubuntu's, independently of Ubuntu's underlying driver etc. stack.
[00:11] <pleia2> ok, starting to wander toward BALUG since I have a bunch of errands to do along the way
[00:12]  * pleia2 packs debian stickers too
[00:17] <DonkeyHotei> if anyone in SF needs a ride to balug tonight, (408)37-COMPU
[01:04] <kdub> philipballew_ philipballew where is UH today?
[01:06] <kdub> ok, got it
[01:06]  * kdub leaves from la jollllllllllllla
[01:07] <philipballew_> see you here kdub
[01:19] <kdubphone> Sd traffic is slow today :P
[02:54] <Darkwing> How did it go?
[02:55] <Darkwing> I ended up walking to the beach and taking pictures of the sunset.
[02:55] <Darkwing> Android 4.0 camera has a panoramic camera... :D
[03:08] <Darkwing> http://wonderly.com/pictures/BeachSunset4-17-12/
[03:59] <philipballew> Darkwing, It went really well. We had six people.
[03:59] <Darkwing> Nice!
[04:01] <philipballew> some really good connections were made. They'll keep coming out
[04:20] <Swagbodian> hey philip and gua
[04:34] <philipballew> Swagbodian, whats up!
[04:40] <Swagbodian> not mch
[04:40] <Swagbodian> it was cambodian new years the past weekend
[04:41] <Swagbodian> havent been able to concentrate lol
[05:16] <pleia2> presentation complete, and home \o/
[05:19] <Swagbodian> ?
[05:21] <pleia2> Swagbodian: grantbow and I did an Ubuntu 12.04 presentation tonight
[05:39] <DonkeyHotei> back from balug
[06:39] <philipballew> pleia2, are your slides cc?
[15:45] <pleia2> philipballew: usually cc by sa, which slides specifically?
[16:04] <kdub> pretty good SD UH last night
[16:46] <svanzoest> it was good to meet everyone.
[16:52] <svanzoest> I'd love to get the word out more and get more people involved. There are quite a view San Diego ubuntu folks.
[16:52] <svanzoest> s/view/few/
[18:33] <Darkwing> svanzoest: Sorry I missed you.
[18:34] <Darkwing> svanzoest: I live here in IB and my gas tank was sucking fumes. Get paid tomorrow lol
[18:34] <jyo> Hey, anyone else on 12.04 having trouble printing pdfs? Postscript errors?
[18:34] <bkerensa> Is California having some awesome release parties?
[18:34] <bkerensa> :D
[18:34] <DonkeyHotei> bkerensa: check the  wiki
[18:34] <Darkwing> bkerensa: I have nothing planned yet..
[18:34] <Darkwing> I'm dealing with the massive changes in Kubuntu LOL
[18:36]  * Darkwing sighs
[18:37] <bkerensa> KuBlue
[18:37] <bkerensa> :P
[18:38] <bkerensa> Darkwing: :P Were throwing another bash.... Catering, Keg, Soft Drinks and cases and cases of swag :)
[18:39] <Darkwing> Oh nice.
[18:39] <Darkwing> Well, it's looking like we will have to change the name of the project :/
[18:40] <Darkwing> You guys are go big or go home eh?
[18:40] <Darkwing> I'd come up if I wasn't as far south as you can get in the US LOL
[18:40] <bkerensa> Darkwing: Yeah I kind of figured Canonical was not going to allow you to use their Trademark after they poured money into the brand
[18:40] <bkerensa> :D
[18:41] <DonkeyHotei> Darkwing: Hawai'i?
[18:41] <bkerensa> Darkwing: this is why I am Pro "Ubuntu Foundation" Model much like Wordpress.org and Automaticc are split
[18:41] <Darkwing> No, far south southern cali
[18:41] <DonkeyHotei> texas and florida are also far to the south of socal
[18:42] <Darkwing> http://goo.gl/5kof8
[18:42] <Darkwing> I'm sorry... I'm as about as far south in california as you can get.
[18:42] <DonkeyHotei> san ysidro, then
[18:42] <bkerensa> Darkwing: Did they make the trademark issue official yet?
[18:43] <Darkwing> It's being talked about by Canonical and Blue Systems.
[18:43] <Darkwing> Blue Systems being our new sponser. There are also a couple of companies that was to offer support contracts that cannot just yet.
[18:43] <Darkwing> Because of the TM restrictions with support contracts on a corperate level.
[18:44] <bkerensa> Yeah
[18:45] <Darkwing> But, so far, we have two full time paid developers (Both quit Canonical to work for Blue Systems) we will have a travel budget for travel to things like UDS (If canonical doesn't sponsor) and other KDE summits and events. We will also have a budget for pressed CDs and swag :D
[18:45] <Darkwing> and that's just to strat.
[18:45] <Darkwing> start
[18:46] <Darkwing> Plus we have a developer who wants to build MS Exchange support directly into Akonadi and KMail :D
[18:47] <Darkwing> as an addon with kdePIM
[18:47] <Darkwing> and that would be... epic
[18:48] <Darkwing> We will have some fun announcments RE Kubuntu at UDS.
[18:48] <Darkwing> But so far... nothing in major changes in set in stone so.. yeah
[18:54] <pleia2> bkerensa: should blog about the release party before Sunday so we can get it in UWN :)
[18:54] <bkerensa> pleia2: This sunday or next sunday?
[18:55] <pleia2> bkerensa: next sunday is after the party :P
[18:55] <pleia2> so this sunday
[19:02] <svanzoest> I'd love to help put on a release party in San Diego.
[19:06] <Darkwing> svanzoest: Where in SD are you at?
[19:08] <svanzoest> darkwing: North county coastal: Solana Beach
[19:09] <Darkwing> svanzoest: Ahhh, okay
[20:32] <Darkwing> RIP Dick Clark.
[20:32] <DonkeyHotei> he's history?
[20:33] <Darkwing> Died today.
[20:33] <Darkwing> http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/obit/story/2012-04-18/dick-clark-dies-at-82/54390716/1
[20:33] <DonkeyHotei> it's also 1906 earthquake day today
[20:52] <philipballew_> I just realized uds is three weeks away... I guess I should start planning for it...
[20:55] <bkerensa> philipballew: ikr
[20:55] <bkerensa> :D
[20:56] <bkerensa> philipballew: have you signed up for anything on the uds schedule yet?
[20:57] <philipballew_> bkerensa, what you mean?
[20:57] <bkerensa> philipballew: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/
[20:57] <bkerensa> :D
[20:57] <philipballew_> I have to sign up for things?
[20:57] <philipballew_> bkerensa, Trust me, I have no idea what I am doing with the Ubuntu community stuff...
[20:58] <philipballew_> bkerensa, Do I have to go to the ones they tell me to go to cause they paid for me
[20:58] <bkerensa> philipballew: Uhh your supposed to err signup or something for the ones you feel will benefit you in the next cycle
[20:58] <bkerensa> :D
[20:59] <bkerensa> I think their should be a UDS for Dummies book
[20:59] <bkerensa> I need it :D
[20:59] <pleia2> bkerensa: typically projects you are part of create blueprints and you subscribe to them that way (not by going to the schedule and selecting stuff unless there is something you missed)
[20:59]  * philipballew_ will follow bkerensa around and hope he knows what he is doing
[20:59] <bkerensa> pleia2: is their a deadline for when the blueprints turn into actual meetings?
[21:00] <bkerensa> because right now the summit scheduler is still pretty bare
[21:00] <philipballew_> I apparently have to go a a "youth in ubuntu community" thing
[21:00] <bkerensa> ?
[21:00] <pleia2> bkerensa: things get added even during UDS itself, so not really
[21:00] <bkerensa> :D
[21:00] <bkerensa> unconference :P
[21:00] <philipballew_> Someone told me their putting on a youth in ubuntu meeting and I need to go
[21:01] <pleia2> you grab the track lead and say "hey, I need a session for this please"
[21:01] <pleia2> obviously doing it earlier gets you a better chance of finding jono ;) but there is no set deadline
[21:01] <philipballew_> So I said okay
[21:01] <bkerensa> All I know so far is I am going to try for all Community tracks and everything Server and Foundations related
[21:01] <pleia2> just make sure you don't mark everything "must attend" ;)
[21:02]  * bkerensa doesnt want to find Jono
[21:02] <pleia2> makes the schedule people crazy
[21:02]  * bkerensa wants to find Marc Cluet, adam_g, kees, randall etc :)
[21:02] <philipballew_> i need to go to a lot of unity stuff as well, being im the power user individual these days...
[21:06] <philipballew_> bkerensa, Do you know when I find out about the hotel and stuff?
[21:06] <bkerensa> philipballew: no idea
[21:06] <bkerensa> philipballew: I think they assume that everyone going to UDS is veterans and has done it time and time again
[21:06] <bkerensa> :D
[21:07] <philipballew_> I only applied so I could go to Europe, not this Oakland stuff....
[21:07] <philipballew_> I grew up in nor cal...
[21:07] <bkerensa> philipballew: all I know is I will be arriving in Oakland very early Sunday... I plan on dropping my luggage at the hotel since check in is not till afternoon I hear.... then I will head to Berkeley or SF for some Sushi and Sake
[21:07] <bkerensa> :D
[21:07] <bkerensa> philipballew: LOL ^
[21:08] <philipballew_> I  roll into oakland say 10:30 via train probably, unless I just get a friend to drive me there.
[21:08] <philipballew_> Ill be east of sac that saturday
[21:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: did you need plan travel with the agency?
[21:09] <philipballew_> idk, heres the thing...
[21:09] <philipballew_> after uds im gonna need to find a way to napa and spend 3 weeks with my elderly grandmother halping her remodel her house so Id only need a one way ticket
[21:09] <philipballew_> *helping
[21:11] <bkerensa> philipballew: ahh
[21:11] <philipballew_> so maybe they can get me a one way
[21:12] <bkerensa> philipballew: yeah but I wouldnt wait to long to talk to them
[21:12] <bkerensa> :D
[21:12] <philipballew_> check this out. friday before uds is my last day of school so i have to move all my crap in a car back to nor cal for the summer
[21:12] <philipballew_> so i have to move everything i one in one day and get to oakland the next
[21:14] <bkerensa> philipballew: it will be worth it... :) you get to hangout with err Jono ;p
[21:16] <philipballew_> he's a nice guy the like two times ive met him
[21:19] <bkerensa> he is a very busy guy :)
[21:22] <philipballew_> true, well off to math class. Peace!
[22:12] <pleia2> this is the kind of fun thing that can happen when you use CC license on your photos (the article isn't about my ring, but that is my ring!): http://thestir.cafemom.com/love_sex/136207/man_accidentally_gives_goodwill_his
[22:14] <greg-g> pleia2: yay!
[22:14] <pleia2> :)