| andygray | okay, home | 00:18 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Yeah I won't be there. ;) | 04:23 |
| BiosElement | Heh Unit193 Not a problem | 05:00 |
| Cheri703 | o/ andygraybeal why look me up? | 05:06 |
| Cheri703 | ah, scrolled back further :) | 05:08 |
| andygray | morning | 12:11 |
| paultag | yo | 13:36 |
| andygray | heya paul | 13:40 |
| andygray | what are you up to today ? | 13:40 |
| paultag | living the dream, man | 13:46 |
| paultag | how are you? | 13:46 |
| andygray | haha living the dream, listen to you. | 13:48 |
| andygray | i'm good. i'm on the journey to upgrade joomla 1.5 to 2.5 ... without interruptions today. | 13:49 |
| paultag | badass | 13:51 |
| andygray | my eyesite is getting bad man ;) | 13:51 |
| andygray | so.. what is this dream your living? if i was living my dream i had last night, carrie fisher would be next to me. | 13:52 |
| andygray | oh and i would be at a hockey game with a bunch of asians and techno music playing with phones that would upload copyright violations every time a picture was taken. | 13:52 |
| andygray | and a logo was in the picture. | 13:52 |
| paultag | working for a nonprofit I love | 13:53 |
| paultag | doing shit I love | 13:53 |
| andygray | nice, nonprofit, i did a small job for 'homeless garden project' in santa cruz california :) | 13:53 |
| andygray | i work at a cooperative right now (for profit b corp) | 13:53 |
| paultag | sweet | 13:54 |
| paultag | I work for the Sunlight Foundation | 13:54 |
| paultag | a nonprofit focused on goverment transparency and accountability | 13:54 |
| andygray | ah interesting. | 13:54 |
| andygray | sounds potentially very dangerous :) | 13:54 |
| paultag | meh :) | 13:54 |
| paultag | I think that's why it's fun. We're also super well known | 13:54 |
| andygray | i figure it's something like leaking cables left and right. | 13:55 |
| paultag | nah, we can't do that | 13:55 |
| paultag | we just download stuff the goverment hids on their sites, but is still public | 13:55 |
| paultag | then digest all of it and disclose the findings | 13:55 |
| andygray | well, this is interesting. | 13:55 |
| paultag | or like, scraping sites to make APIs | 13:55 |
| paultag | like, state legislative bodies | 13:55 |
| paultag | we're mostly technical folks, which is cool | 13:56 |
| thafreak | Morning...er...mid morning Ohio | 14:56 |
| andygray | heya thafreak | 14:57 |
| thafreak | yo yo | 14:57 |
| * thafreak has so much work to do....but doesn't want to do it :( | 14:57 | |
| thafreak | 3 jobs is at least, one job too many | 14:58 |
| thafreak | but probably 3 jobs too many | 14:58 |
| canthus13 | good morning. | 14:58 |
| * canthus13 stabs chromium repeatedly witha spoon. | 15:01 | |
| canthus13 | I have 4GB of ram. there's no reason I should be swapping. :/ | 15:02 |
| canthus13 | ...except that chromium was using 2.5GB. | 15:02 |
| thafreak | awesome | 15:04 |
| thafreak | yeah, i keep switching browsers as my default periodically... | 15:05 |
| thafreak | basically when i realize my browser's using all my ram, i change | 15:05 |
| thafreak | until i realize that browser is using all my ram...then i change back | 15:05 |
| thafreak | :) | 15:05 |
| thafreak | fyi, you can sort of convert virtualbox vm's to kvm... | 15:08 |
| thafreak | i guess the export appliance thing that vbox does makes an ova file, which is just a gnu tar file with an ovf and a vmdk disk image | 15:09 |
| andygray | nice, vbox to kvm :) | 15:10 |
| andygray | had no idea | 15:10 |
| Cheri703 | I got my work from home job !!! I will be starting as part time, but with the potential for more, and if I am doing a fair amount each week, will likely quit current job and move to a part-time with benefits elsewhere :) | 15:57 |
| andygray | nice | 16:00 |
| thafreak | crap...nevermind...seems vmdk support in qemu/kvm isn't working.... | 16:01 |
| andygray | thafreak, noted :) | 16:02 |
| thafreak | Cheri703: what kind of work from home is it? | 16:02 |
| Cheri703 | qa for a website, eventually penetration testing and other junior-ish security engineer stuff :D :D | 16:02 |
| thafreak | andygray: fyi, there is a vbox tool to convert vmdk images to raw images though...i will have to do that first i guess | 16:02 |
| thafreak | wow nice... | 16:03 |
| Cheri703 | yes, very excited | 16:03 |
| Cheri703 | and the website is one that teaches security things to people, so even better, I get to learn as I work :D | 16:03 |
| thafreak | so are you working for a company qa'ing their website, or for like a consulting company qa'ing other companies websites? | 16:03 |
| Cheri703 | qa'ing theirs, then other stuff later on | 16:04 |
| Cheri703 | www.thehackeracademy.com :D | 16:04 |
| andygray | interesting :) | 16:05 |
| Cheri703 | I'm super excited | 16:05 |
| thafreak | and you're getting paid, or is it more like unpaid intern? | 16:05 |
| Cheri703 | paid | 16:05 |
| thafreak | awesome | 16:06 |
| thafreak | let us know (specifically me) if it's decent material... | 16:07 |
| thafreak | i might be convinced to get my company to pay their membership fee for me...if it seems worth it | 16:07 |
| thafreak | see, now you're in sales too and you didn't even know it | 16:07 |
| Cheri703 | hehe, yeah, I'll keep you posted | 16:08 |
| Cheri703 | I will say, decent material for me (beginner) might be different than decent material for you, but I've been interacting with the guy behind it, sounds pretty good overall | 16:08 |
| andygray | what is it that yano does? | 16:10 |
| andygray | that sounds somethinkg like what he is wokring on too | 16:10 |
| thafreak | is it a instructor lead class type setup, or more of a learn at your own pace kind of deal? | 16:10 |
| Cheri703 | I believe learn at your own pace, check out the blog on the site | 16:11 |
| Cheri703 | I will let you know once I'm more into it | 16:22 |
| canthus13 | Wow. 1500 bucks a year? | 16:54 |
| Cheri703 | pm me if interested but that is too much >.> | 16:55 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 17:21 |
| canthus13 | I'll learn it the old fashioned way, tyvm. | 17:21 |
| Cheri703 | for the record, I'm not implying that I'd be shady and provide info as I'm doing it | 17:22 |
| canthus13 | :) | 17:28 |
| gilbert | paultag: reading -devel? | 17:51 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, I saw your post | 17:52 |
| paultag | gilbert: I like the idea a lot | 17:52 |
| paultag | gilbert: but a lot of people might claim hijacking or breaking stable versions or something | 17:52 |
| gilbert | paultag: cool. glad to know my ideas aren't completely crazy ;) | 17:52 |
| paultag | yeah no, it's a good idea | 17:53 |
| paultag | and I think you should keep at it, I agree a lot | 17:53 |
| paultag | gilbert: any replies off-list? | 17:54 |
| gilbert | paultag: not yet. just sent that like 15 min ago anyway | 17:54 |
| paultag | ah, yeah, true | 17:54 |
| paultag | (45 minutes ago) | 17:54 |
| gilbert | oh | 17:54 |
| gilbert | time flies :( | 17:55 |
| paultag | y'rly | 17:55 |
| gilbert | so, i think hijacking is overblown | 17:55 |
| paultag | I agree, but some people claim it as a real problem | 17:56 |
| gilbert | the solution to that i already put in there is that the maintainer can appeal alioth's decision by demonstrating volunteer badness | 17:56 |
| paultag | yeah I saw that bit | 17:57 |
| gilbert | but yeah, i'm tired of maintainers whining | 17:59 |
| paultag | I know people are going to claim that this will encourage malicious NMUs via official means, gilbert | 17:59 |
| gilbert | let the people that are actually doing things do those things | 17:59 |
| paultag | I know it's not | 17:59 |
| paultag | but that's what they're going to say | 17:59 |
| paultag | I agree | 17:59 |
| paultag | totally | 17:59 |
| paultag | I think collab-maint should actually mean something (but alas) | 17:59 |
| gilbert | a few bad/malicious nmus shouldn't prevent others from doing real work | 18:01 |
| gilbert | those should be addressed on a case-by-case basis | 18:01 |
| paultag | I mean, I agree, and you'd have to have upload rights | 18:01 |
| paultag | but I feel that if this were in place when that dpkg NMU went down, it'd be behind this sort of process | 18:01 |
| gilbert | well, anyway, thats what i'll say if someone complains about that | 18:01 |
| paultag | which isn't a bad thing | 18:01 |
| gilbert | tru | 18:02 |
| paultag | but stuff like DMs getting a DD to upload this sort of thing | 18:02 |
| paultag | will be hard, I think | 18:02 |
| paultag | which isn't a bad thing, but just something I was thinking about | 18:02 |
| gilbert | possibly. after time, it may become more acceptible | 18:02 |
| paultag | I hope so :) | 18:03 |
| gilbert | you'll be a dd by then anyway ;) | 18:03 |
| paultag | I'm not so worried about me :) | 18:03 |
| gilbert | ah good ole selflessness | 18:03 |
| paultag | I'm in the middle of nodejs hell, I'm about to upload like 20 new node packages | 18:03 |
| paultag | and if someone would jack a few of those, I'd be so effing happy | 18:03 |
| paultag | so I need to make sure there's a process for that :) | 18:04 |
| gilbert | :) | 18:04 |
| paultag | (trying to get TileMill in before Wheezy) | 18:04 |
| gilbert | haha, the "please hijack this" process | 18:06 |
| paultag | right?! | 18:06 |
| paultag | it's what the low-threshold NMU should be | 18:06 |
| paultag | I wish we could leave notes on the PTS | 18:09 |
| paultag | DEP12 - HACKING.Debian | 18:10 |
| paultag | actually, I wonder if I can just start doing that, and send a patch into the PTS to display that in a pane | 18:11 |
| gilbert | sure, no harm in trying | 18:41 |
| gilbert | except wasted time | 18:41 |
| paultag | yeah, sure | 18:42 |
| paultag | it'd be nice to leave a note for people looking at how to handle this sort of situation | 18:42 |
| paultag | and a thing for them to point to to say it's OK to do this to any sponsors | 18:43 |
| andygray | i need like #software-ignorance-rage support right now. | 18:47 |
| andygray | i'm going nuts with this joomla transfer, i've done it before, several times and it's worked just great. | 18:48 |
| andygray | this time, is not working :( | 18:48 |
| andygray | i must be missing something | 18:48 |
| andygray | i know this has nothing to do with ubuntu. | 18:48 |
| andygray | grrrrrrr | 18:49 |
| andygray | who plans on using failback mode? | 19:43 |
| andygray | anyone? | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | Nope. | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | I'll still be using Xfce and/or LXDE. :P | 19:43 |
| andygray | i'm gonna use failback for all my users, but for my laptop imma use straight up | 19:43 |
| andygray | Unit193, awesome man. | 19:43 |
| andygray | my users would so much love lxde | 19:44 |
| paultag | Fluxbox or Awesome + some gnome things is enough for me | 19:44 |
| andygray | hmmm i never heard of Awesome | 19:45 |
| paultag | one day, I'm going to write a tiling wayland DS | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | AwesomeWM, not bad. | 19:45 |
| andygray | *needs to loook up | 19:45 |
| paultag | Awesome is OK. Not awesome | 19:45 |
| paultag | but it's what I'm using now | 19:45 |
| paultag | it's good for multi-screen or large screens | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | I can't wait for Xfce 4.10. | 19:45 |
| andygray | i've got on with the WM named after my ballsack.. which is effin hilarious. | 19:45 |
| andygray | scrot? or some .. yea | 19:46 |
| paultag | scrot is for screenshots | 19:46 |
| andygray | yea, i'm still thinking | 19:46 |
| paultag | scr[eensh]ot | 19:46 |
| andygray | eensh :) | 19:46 |
| andygray | i like it. | 19:47 |
| andygray | the nutsack window manager : scrotwm | 19:47 |
| andygray | it's effin bad ass :) | 19:47 |
| andygray | but users could never understand | 19:47 |
| paultag | haha, oh lordy | 19:47 |
| paultag | I need to write my wm, i have big ideas | 19:48 |
| paultag | I have big ideas for lots of things | 19:48 |
| paultag | not enough time, never enough time | 19:48 |
| andygray | excuses, excuses..... ( yes, i am falling off the keyboard) | 19:48 |
| andygray | talking about excuses, this is a great thread | 19:52 |
| andygray | http://www.osnews.com/comments/20910 | 19:52 |
| gilbert | all columbusites, join us for ubuntu hour at panara tonight at 6 just south of the osu campus | 20:02 |
| andygray | i'd love to go | 20:05 |
| andygray | i can't but yea. | 20:05 |
| andygray | that is aewsome people get together about ubuntu :) | 20:06 |
| andygray | er i mean in cbus :) | 20:06 |
| andygray | gilbert, is ubuntu hour every week? | 20:06 |
| gilbert | andygray: every other | 20:08 |
| andygray | nice | 20:08 |
| andygray | is there a decent turnout? | 20:09 |
| andygray | i can't imagine there would be any turn out save for a handful in athens | 20:10 |
| andygray | i mean, if there were such an event | 20:10 |
| andygray | it would be badass if there was the event :) | 20:10 |
| gilbert | andygray: are you at ou? | 20:11 |
| andygray | i'm not. i'm a resident in the area... well just outside the athens area. | 20:12 |
| andygray | #aalug is the lug | 20:12 |
| andygray | it's not very acgtive | 20:12 |
| andygray | i've been to a presentation that the lug had like.. years ago on the OU campus, i felt a little weird cause i was older but i got over it. | 20:12 |
| gilbert | andygray: we're always looking for more local leads. all ya gotta do is find a friend, maybe put some flyers up, and hang out | 20:12 |
| gilbert | andygray: ubuntu hours tend not to involve presentations, so no pressure | 20:13 |
| andygray | i see | 20:14 |
| andygray | is it a popular thing? | 20:14 |
| andygray | having an 'ubuntu hours' at a venue? | 20:14 |
| gilbert | andygray: yeah its somewhat popular, we usually get 6 or 7 that come out | 20:14 |
| andygray | i own a venue, if that many people come out it would be good :) | 20:15 |
| andygray | co-own, really i mis-spoke | 20:15 |
| andygray | maybe i'll find more people around my area up for it. | 20:15 |
| gilbert | andygray: yeah, its a good time | 20:17 |
| gilbert | andygray: since you co-own the place, put up some signage the week before or something | 20:17 |
| andygray | yea, i will advertisde | 20:18 |
| andygray | we have a foreign language night once a week :) | 20:18 |
| andygray | it's not very active | 20:18 |
| andygray | it should be advertized more | 20:19 |
| gilbert | andygray: are you on the mailing list? | 20:19 |
| gilbert | andygray: if not, join up https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-oh and announce your meetings there | 20:19 |
| gilbert | also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam (includes events around the state)- | 20:21 |
| andygray | i'm not on the mailing list | 20:21 |
| andygray | i'm new to this ubuntu social network | 20:21 |
| andygray | i think i'm only on the announce :) list | 20:21 |
| andygray | i get those emails from that lady every so often. | 20:22 |
| gilbert | the ohio list is quite different. just local stuff and random conversations every now and then | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | It's not typically loaded with drama, thankfully. | 20:26 |
| paultag | like every other ubuntu everything :) | 21:24 |
| BiosElementv3 | Howdy folks | 22:01 |
| gilbert | ubuntu hour columbus now! come here | 22:09 |
| canthus13 | gilbert: ..2 and a half hours is a bit of a drive. :P | 22:19 |
| BiosElementv3 | haha you shoulda planned it better! ;P | 22:19 |
| gilbert | canthus13: thats too bad, only half a tank of gas to get | 22:20 |
| BiosElementv3 | Exactly! And then you get to have bad coffee >.> | 22:20 |
| canthus13 | gilbert: Half a tank. :( That's half the week's groceries. | 22:21 |
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