[00:18] okay, home [04:23] BiosElement: Yeah I won't be there. ;) [05:00] Heh Unit193 Not a problem [05:06] o/ andygraybeal why look me up? [05:08] ah, scrolled back further :) [12:11] morning [13:36] yo [13:40] heya paul [13:40] what are you up to today ? [13:46] living the dream, man [13:46] how are you? [13:48] haha living the dream, listen to you. [13:49] i'm good. i'm on the journey to upgrade joomla 1.5 to 2.5 ... without interruptions today. [13:51] badass [13:51] my eyesite is getting bad man ;) [13:52] so.. what is this dream your living? if i was living my dream i had last night, carrie fisher would be next to me. [13:52] oh and i would be at a hockey game with a bunch of asians and techno music playing with phones that would upload copyright violations every time a picture was taken. [13:52] and a logo was in the picture. [13:53] working for a nonprofit I love [13:53] doing shit I love [13:53] nice, nonprofit, i did a small job for 'homeless garden project' in santa cruz california :) [13:53] i work at a cooperative right now (for profit b corp) [13:54] sweet [13:54] I work for the Sunlight Foundation [13:54] a nonprofit focused on goverment transparency and accountability [13:54] ah interesting. [13:54] sounds potentially very dangerous :) [13:54] meh :) [13:54] I think that's why it's fun. We're also super well known [13:55] i figure it's something like leaking cables left and right. [13:55] nah, we can't do that [13:55] we just download stuff the goverment hids on their sites, but is still public [13:55] then digest all of it and disclose the findings [13:55] well, this is interesting. [13:55] or like, scraping sites to make APIs [13:55] like, state legislative bodies [13:56] we're mostly technical folks, which is cool [14:56] Morning...er...mid morning Ohio [14:57] heya thafreak [14:57] yo yo [14:57] * thafreak has so much work to do....but doesn't want to do it :( [14:58] 3 jobs is at least, one job too many [14:58] but probably 3 jobs too many [14:58] good morning. [15:01] * canthus13 stabs chromium repeatedly witha spoon. [15:02] I have 4GB of ram. there's no reason I should be swapping. :/ [15:02] ...except that chromium was using 2.5GB. [15:04] awesome [15:05] yeah, i keep switching browsers as my default periodically... [15:05] basically when i realize my browser's using all my ram, i change [15:05] until i realize that browser is using all my ram...then i change back [15:05] :) [15:08] fyi, you can sort of convert virtualbox vm's to kvm... [15:09] i guess the export appliance thing that vbox does makes an ova file, which is just a gnu tar file with an ovf and a vmdk disk image [15:10] nice, vbox to kvm :) [15:10] had no idea [15:57] I got my work from home job !!! I will be starting as part time, but with the potential for more, and if I am doing a fair amount each week, will likely quit current job and move to a part-time with benefits elsewhere :) [16:00] nice [16:01] crap...nevermind...seems vmdk support in qemu/kvm isn't working.... [16:02] thafreak, noted :) [16:02] Cheri703: what kind of work from home is it? [16:02] qa for a website, eventually penetration testing and other junior-ish security engineer stuff :D :D [16:02] andygray: fyi, there is a vbox tool to convert vmdk images to raw images though...i will have to do that first i guess [16:03] wow nice... [16:03] yes, very excited [16:03] and the website is one that teaches security things to people, so even better, I get to learn as I work :D [16:03] so are you working for a company qa'ing their website, or for like a consulting company qa'ing other companies websites? [16:04] qa'ing theirs, then other stuff later on [16:04] www.thehackeracademy.com :D [16:05] interesting :) [16:05] I'm super excited [16:05] and you're getting paid, or is it more like unpaid intern? [16:05] paid [16:06] awesome [16:07] let us know (specifically me) if it's decent material... [16:07] i might be convinced to get my company to pay their membership fee for me...if it seems worth it [16:07] see, now you're in sales too and you didn't even know it [16:08] hehe, yeah, I'll keep you posted [16:08] I will say, decent material for me (beginner) might be different than decent material for you, but I've been interacting with the guy behind it, sounds pretty good overall [16:10] what is it that yano does? [16:10] that sounds somethinkg like what he is wokring on too [16:10] is it a instructor lead class type setup, or more of a learn at your own pace kind of deal? [16:11] I believe learn at your own pace, check out the blog on the site [16:22] I will let you know once I'm more into it [16:54] Wow. 1500 bucks a year? [16:55] pm me if interested but that is too much >.> [17:21] Heh. [17:21] I'll learn it the old fashioned way, tyvm. [17:22] for the record, I'm not implying that I'd be shady and provide info as I'm doing it [17:28] :) [17:51] paultag: reading -devel? [17:52] gilbert: yeah, I saw your post [17:52] gilbert: I like the idea a lot [17:52] gilbert: but a lot of people might claim hijacking or breaking stable versions or something [17:52] paultag: cool. glad to know my ideas aren't completely crazy ;) [17:53] yeah no, it's a good idea [17:53] and I think you should keep at it, I agree a lot [17:54] gilbert: any replies off-list? [17:54] paultag: not yet. just sent that like 15 min ago anyway [17:54] ah, yeah, true [17:54] (45 minutes ago) [17:54] oh [17:55] time flies :( [17:55] y'rly [17:55] so, i think hijacking is overblown [17:56] I agree, but some people claim it as a real problem [17:56] the solution to that i already put in there is that the maintainer can appeal alioth's decision by demonstrating volunteer badness [17:57] yeah I saw that bit [17:59] but yeah, i'm tired of maintainers whining [17:59] I know people are going to claim that this will encourage malicious NMUs via official means, gilbert [17:59] let the people that are actually doing things do those things [17:59] I know it's not [17:59] but that's what they're going to say [17:59] I agree [17:59] totally [17:59] I think collab-maint should actually mean something (but alas) [18:01] a few bad/malicious nmus shouldn't prevent others from doing real work [18:01] those should be addressed on a case-by-case basis [18:01] I mean, I agree, and you'd have to have upload rights [18:01] but I feel that if this were in place when that dpkg NMU went down, it'd be behind this sort of process [18:01] well, anyway, thats what i'll say if someone complains about that [18:01] which isn't a bad thing [18:02] tru [18:02] but stuff like DMs getting a DD to upload this sort of thing [18:02] will be hard, I think [18:02] which isn't a bad thing, but just something I was thinking about [18:02] possibly. after time, it may become more acceptible [18:03] I hope so :) [18:03] you'll be a dd by then anyway ;) [18:03] I'm not so worried about me :) [18:03] ah good ole selflessness [18:03] I'm in the middle of nodejs hell, I'm about to upload like 20 new node packages [18:03] and if someone would jack a few of those, I'd be so effing happy [18:04] so I need to make sure there's a process for that :) [18:04] :) [18:04] (trying to get TileMill in before Wheezy) [18:06] haha, the "please hijack this" process [18:06] right?! [18:06] it's what the low-threshold NMU should be [18:09] I wish we could leave notes on the PTS [18:10] DEP12 - HACKING.Debian [18:11] actually, I wonder if I can just start doing that, and send a patch into the PTS to display that in a pane [18:41] sure, no harm in trying [18:41] except wasted time [18:42] yeah, sure [18:42] it'd be nice to leave a note for people looking at how to handle this sort of situation [18:43] and a thing for them to point to to say it's OK to do this to any sponsors [18:47] i need like #software-ignorance-rage support right now. [18:48] i'm going nuts with this joomla transfer, i've done it before, several times and it's worked just great. [18:48] this time, is not working :( [18:48] i must be missing something [18:48] i know this has nothing to do with ubuntu. [18:49] grrrrrrr [19:43] who plans on using failback mode? [19:43] anyone? [19:43] Nope. [19:43] I'll still be using Xfce and/or LXDE. :P [19:43] i'm gonna use failback for all my users, but for my laptop imma use straight up [19:43] Unit193, awesome man. [19:44] my users would so much love lxde [19:44] Fluxbox or Awesome + some gnome things is enough for me [19:45] hmmm i never heard of Awesome [19:45] one day, I'm going to write a tiling wayland DS [19:45] AwesomeWM, not bad. [19:45] *needs to loook up [19:45] Awesome is OK. Not awesome [19:45] but it's what I'm using now [19:45] it's good for multi-screen or large screens [19:45] I can't wait for Xfce 4.10. [19:45] i've got on with the WM named after my ballsack.. which is effin hilarious. [19:46] scrot? or some .. yea [19:46] scrot is for screenshots [19:46] yea, i'm still thinking [19:46] scr[eensh]ot [19:46] eensh :) [19:47] i like it. [19:47] the nutsack window manager : scrotwm [19:47] it's effin bad ass :) [19:47] but users could never understand [19:47] haha, oh lordy [19:48] I need to write my wm, i have big ideas [19:48] I have big ideas for lots of things [19:48] not enough time, never enough time [19:48] excuses, excuses..... ( yes, i am falling off the keyboard) [19:52] talking about excuses, this is a great thread [19:52] http://www.osnews.com/comments/20910 [20:02] all columbusites, join us for ubuntu hour at panara tonight at 6 just south of the osu campus [20:05] i'd love to go [20:05] i can't but yea. [20:06] that is aewsome people get together about ubuntu :) [20:06] er i mean in cbus :) [20:06] gilbert, is ubuntu hour every week? [20:08] andygray: every other [20:08] nice [20:09] is there a decent turnout? [20:10] i can't imagine there would be any turn out save for a handful in athens [20:10] i mean, if there were such an event [20:10] it would be badass if there was the event :) [20:11] andygray: are you at ou? [20:12] i'm not. i'm a resident in the area... well just outside the athens area. [20:12] #aalug is the lug [20:12] it's not very acgtive [20:12] i've been to a presentation that the lug had like.. years ago on the OU campus, i felt a little weird cause i was older but i got over it. [20:12] andygray: we're always looking for more local leads. all ya gotta do is find a friend, maybe put some flyers up, and hang out [20:13] andygray: ubuntu hours tend not to involve presentations, so no pressure [20:14] i see [20:14] is it a popular thing? [20:14] having an 'ubuntu hours' at a venue? [20:14] andygray: yeah its somewhat popular, we usually get 6 or 7 that come out [20:15] i own a venue, if that many people come out it would be good :) [20:15] co-own, really i mis-spoke [20:15] maybe i'll find more people around my area up for it. [20:17] andygray: yeah, its a good time [20:17] andygray: since you co-own the place, put up some signage the week before or something [20:18] yea, i will advertisde [20:18] we have a foreign language night once a week :) [20:18] it's not very active [20:19] it should be advertized more [20:19] andygray: are you on the mailing list? [20:19] andygray: if not, join up https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-oh and announce your meetings there [20:21] also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam (includes events around the state)- [20:21] i'm not on the mailing list [20:21] i'm new to this ubuntu social network [20:21] i think i'm only on the announce :) list [20:22] i get those emails from that lady every so often. [20:22] the ohio list is quite different. just local stuff and random conversations every now and then [20:26] It's not typically loaded with drama, thankfully. [21:24] like every other ubuntu everything :) [22:01] Howdy folks [22:09] ubuntu hour columbus now! come here [22:19] gilbert: ..2 and a half hours is a bit of a drive. :P [22:19] haha you shoulda planned it better! ;P [22:20] canthus13: thats too bad, only half a tank of gas to get [22:20] Exactly! And then you get to have bad coffee >.> [22:21] gilbert: Half a tank. :( That's half the week's groceries.