| RAOF | hyperair: What do you mean by "pixel perfect scrolling"? You mean the smooth-scrolling that gtk3 gets? | 00:19 |
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| hyperair | RAOF: yeah that | 00:19 |
| hyperair | RAOF: i just wrote a small test program that dumps out the delta_x/y that it receives via GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK, and will test it otu the next time my scrolling freezes up | 00:20 |
| RAOF | I've noticed that it dies in evolution sometimes, but I chalked that up to evolution struggling on the challenging internet connection I have here. | 00:20 |
| hyperair | hmm | 00:20 |
| hyperair | in this case it dies in everything that uses Gtk3's GtkScrolledWindow | 00:20 |
| hyperair | the last time this happened, i ran an evince window in gdb and found that it was generating + and - delta_y events which were cancelling each other out | 00:22 |
| RAOF | Ah, right. | 00:22 |
| RAOF | Yeah, now noticed that. | 00:22 |
| hyperair | reloading the psmouse module fixes it | 00:23 |
| RAOF | http://paste2.org/p/1983874 | 00:24 |
| RAOF | Ra raw. | 00:24 |
| RAOF | That's test-xi2 output. | 00:25 |
| RAOF | Looks like the raw valuator is fine, but the cooked valuator is stuck at -2147483648.00 | 00:25 |
| hyperair | what's this cooked valuator? | 00:26 |
| RAOF | The thing that GTK listens to. | 00:26 |
| hyperair | hm | 00:26 |
| RAOF | ie: it's the value of the axis after any acceleration, processing, etc. | 00:27 |
| hyperair | i see | 00:29 |
| hyperair | Sarvatt: ping | 00:45 |
| hyperair | what's the gesture that's hooked up to opening the dash? | 00:45 |
| Sarvatt | hyperair: 4 finger tap | 00:49 |
| hyperair | hmm | 00:51 |
| hyperair | how does 2 finger scrolling end up as a 4 finger tap.. | 00:51 |
| hyperair | and in the first place, how is utouch even working when the utouch patch has been disabled? | 00:51 |
| hyperair | RAOF: is it safe to bring up the 117_gestures.patch yet? | 00:53 |
| hyperair | perhaps that's the key to this | 00:53 |
| Sarvatt | 117_gestures.patch is obsolete after real multitouch | 00:55 |
| hyperair | i see | 00:56 |
| hyperair | i'm not getting "real multitouch" on my laptop though | 00:56 |
| hyperair | evince and eog no longer respond to pinch and rotate | 00:56 |
| hyperair | could you try disabling coasting and seeing if that helps? | 00:57 |
| hyperair | CoastingSpeed=0 | 00:57 |
| * RAOF suspects integer overflow | 01:10 | |
| RAOF | Yeah, something's overflowing. | 01:19 |
| Sarvatt | well that was fun, took 20 minutes to get into a unity 3d session again trying to restart lightdm, so much for staying off the pc on a sick day :) | 01:23 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: You're sick? Boo :( | 01:24 |
| Sarvatt | was just getting dumped back to the greeter, trying 0ubuntu5 out now | 01:24 |
| Sarvatt | odd thing is, i couldn't reproduce it in a guest session | 01:24 |
| RAOF | You've probably got an odd setting. | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Somewhere. | 01:30 |
| RAOF | hyperair: Have you filed a bug? | 01:31 |
| Sarvatt | i'll invalidate out the bug if i still dont notice it tomorrow | 01:33 |
| RAOF | hyperair: Also, I don't suppose you know whether the same problem occurs with evdev? | 01:34 |
| RAOF | Hm, actually, evdev can't duplicate it because it won't have a scroll valuator. Bah. | 01:34 |
| hyperair | RAOF: you mean regarding the valuator? | 01:35 |
| hyperair | RAOF: i haven't filed a bug, actually. i was looking for a way to reproduce this | 01:35 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 01:35 |
| hyperair | it randomly happens, but often enough to get annoying | 01:35 |
| RAOF | hyperair: Well, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to reproduce it by just continually 2-finger scrolling down. | 01:35 |
| hyperair | oh it's happened | 01:35 |
| hyperair | O_o | 01:35 |
| hyperair | hmm turns out that it's emitting GDK_SCROLL events with GDK_SCROLL_SMOOTH direction with delta_x=0 and delta_y=0 | 01:41 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, turns out the 295.40 blob doesn't work on anything less than or equal to the g80, which is what the 8800gts.gtx have. that's a minor snafu | 01:45 |
| RAOF | hyperair: Yeah, that's exactly right. | 01:48 |
| RAOF | And if you check out xinput test-xi2, you'll find that the scroll events all have a valuator of -2147483648.00 | 01:48 |
| RAOF | And it's *stuck* on that value, so delta_x is obviously 0. | 01:49 |
| hyperair | RAOF: no, delta_y | 01:50 |
| hyperair | delta_x is still working | 01:50 |
| RAOF | Bah, that's what I meant. | 01:50 |
| hyperair | heheh | 01:51 |
| hyperair | where's test-xi2 anyway? | 01:52 |
| RAOF | xinput test-xi2 $DEVICEID | 01:52 |
| hyperair | whoops, when i scroll on that window compiz detects it on the root window (i think) and switches the deskto | 01:54 |
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| kklimonda | how are fglrx packages versioned? the amd driver on their website has version 12.3, but we are at 2:8.960 | 15:54 |
| jcristau | "weirdly" | 15:54 |
| tjaalton | right | 15:55 |
| kklimonda | well, that I can see ; | 15:55 |
| kklimonda | ;) | 15:55 |
| tjaalton | the version we have is what the driver says it is. amd uses some year.release schema | 15:55 |
| kklimonda | tjaalton: that's.. confusing | 15:57 |
| kklimonda | people go to the amd website, see that their version is at 12.3 and go all like "omg, ubuntu drivers are so out of date - I have to update" and proceed to breaking their system | 15:57 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: maybe the fglrx package could mention the "marketing version" on the package description? | 15:59 |
| kklimonda | in all the time I've spent on my LoCo channel using upstream nvidia/amd drivers have been the biggest source of support questions | 15:59 |
| jcristau | it's all part of an evil plan to make people stop wanting to install those drivers | 15:59 |
| kklimonda | also, because people are sort of smart they know they have to remove all the packages with nvidia in the name to install upstream nvidia driver | 16:00 |
| kklimonda | and by doing that they remove nvidia-common which would prevent nvidia installer from installing the driver ;) | 16:00 |
| tjaalton | good for them | 16:00 |
| tjaalton | :) | 16:00 |
| kklimonda | and then they go their merry way telling others how bad Ubuntu is ;) | 16:01 |
| kklimonda | which isn't that good ;) | 16:01 |
| tjaalton | let's move that to jockey then | 16:01 |
| tjaalton | dunno | 16:01 |
| kklimonda | I'm pretty sure the battle is completely lost | 16:03 |
| kklimonda | a lot of new ubuntu users are so called "power users" from windows | 16:03 |
| kklimonda | and power users know exactly enough to destroy their systems ;) | 16:03 |
| kklimonda | (especially how to copy and paste random scripts from the web) | 16:03 |
| tjaalton | yes | 16:04 |
| tjaalton | with 'sudo' on every line | 16:04 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: do you think they would look for the driver version in the package description? | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: where do they get the package version?-) | 16:09 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: either Jockey or update-manager, I'd say | 16:10 |
| tjaalton | doesn't it show the description too | 16:10 |
| tseliot | maybe Jockey does it | 16:10 |
| * tseliot can't remember | 16:10 | |
| tseliot | update-manager does not | 16:11 |
| tjaalton | just leave it as is | 16:12 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: and that would require one more manual step in the packaging | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | software-center doesn't show it | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | no idea where the text is from | 16:12 |
| tseliot | P.S. marketing versions are crazy :P | 16:14 |
| JanC | kklimonda: s/power users/tweakers/ ;) | 17:52 |
| kklimonda | JanC: potatoe potato ;) | 17:55 |
| JanC | nah, lots of power users don't have time to tweak all day | 18:09 |
| JanC | although maybe that would only affect the frequency of breaking their system ;) | 18:11 |
| mars | Hi everyone, quick question: I am trying to run intel_gpu_dump on Precise and found that the program is missing. Was it renamed? | 18:29 |
| albert23 | mars: you don't need it anymore. If the gpu hangs, it will dump contents automatically in /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state | 18:57 |
| mars | albert23, that's what I thought, thanks | 19:18 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: was there a kernel build with drm-intenl-next-queued somewhere? I only see -next on the mainline ppa | 20:06 |
| tjaalton | -n | 20:06 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, yes | 20:08 |
| bryceh | since Intel renames their branch-to-test so frequently we decided to just give it our own naming, which is drm-intel-experimental | 20:09 |
| bryceh | currently that maps to daniel's drm-intel-next-queued | 20:09 |
| tjaalton | oh there it is | 20:09 |
| tjaalton | had to reload the page :) | 20:09 |
| bryceh | when they switch to drm-intel-proposed-next-testing-queued-really, we can just update the mapping :-) | 20:10 |
| tjaalton | yeah I noticed the discussion you had the other day :) | 20:10 |
| bryceh | hopefully if they change it again, we can catch it sooner | 20:19 |
| bryceh | seems this time it changed in january, but I only realized it this past week | 20:20 |
| tjaalton | jesse asked poolie to test it to see if it fixes bug 745112, that's why I was asking | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 745112 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "[arrandale] desktop is messed up with external monitors (x86_64)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745112 | 20:24 |
| * bryceh nods | 20:25 | |
| bryceh | tjaalton, hey do you know offhand what package provides the scripts for dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration? | 20:28 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: keyboard-configuration? :) | 20:30 |
| tjaalton | that's the package name being configured | 20:30 |
| bryceh | duh, ok thanks :-) | 20:30 |
| bryceh | oh, but source package is our old friend console-setup | 20:31 |
| tjaalton | yeah, ok | 20:31 |
| bryceh | bingo, found the bug :-) | 20:33 |
| tjaalton | is it 985065? | 20:39 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, that's right | 20:54 |
| cnd | bryceh, as soon as I get a couple more reviewed-bys on my input patches from whot I plan to push a big SRU for xorg-server with them | 22:15 |
| cnd | it would help to have someone else on the ubuntu side double check the patches just for sanity | 22:15 |
| cnd | I have them all here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~cndougla/xserver/log/?h=input-fixes | 22:16 |
| cnd | they were all found as I was attempting to fix bug 974887 | 22:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 974887 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "unity 3d touch stops registering clicks" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974887 | 22:16 |
| cnd | so basically, I'm giving you a heads up, and if you have some spare moments and feel like reviewing them ahead of time, please do | 22:17 |
| cnd | RAOF, you too | 22:17 |
| cnd | oh, I forgot to mention that I won't be including the last two commits because they would be ABI breaks and I don't think anyone will use them in precise | 22:18 |
| bryceh | cnd, ok, got a few plates in the air at the moment, but will review them when things calm down | 22:19 |
| cnd | thanks | 22:20 |
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