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mr_pouithttp://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/Ubuntu%2012.04/08:52
mr_pouit*g*08:52
mr_pouit"* Converted from .tgz format to .deb by alien version 8.85"08:53
ochosihehe08:59
ochosivery nice08:59
ochosii hope we get a lot of bugreports about that ;)08:59
knomeok, now you are able to manage languages...09:12
knomebbl09:21
Saurabh_123Hello, will xubuntu 12.04 final include xfce 4.10?09:37
mr_pouithi, no, it will include Xfce 4.8 plus some features backported from 4.1009:38
Saurabh_123ok09:38
Saurabh_123mr_pouit, is there a way to install mintmenu in xubuntu?09:39
Saurabh_123I tried installing, but there a lot of missing dependencies09:40
mr_pouitI guess someone made a ppa for that. Try to ask in classic support channels, people may know09:41
Saurabh_123I tried the ppa, but its not working in xubuntu 12.0409:43
Saurabh_123anyways, who sponsors Xubuntu?09:45
mr_pouitit's community-maintained, so I guess nobody.09:47
astraljavaWho's taking care of the Xubuntu Testers team nowadays? Charlie hasn't responded to that one application we got an email of in a timely manner like he used to.12:48
astraljavaOh, oops.14:50
leo-unglaubochosi: hi, i maybe have found a grafical issue in the latest xubuntu14:51
leo-unglaubin the autio options it's sometimes not easy to tell if am option is checke or not14:51
ochosileo-unglaub: hey, mind to take a quick screenshot of what you mean?15:36
leo-unglaubochosi: http://img802.imageshack.us/i/auswahl001.png/ <- clicked15:40
leo-unglaubhttp://img72.imageshack.us/i/auswahl002a.png/ <- not clicked15:40
leo-unglaubäh, different way15:40
leo-unglaubfirst is not clicken and the secound is cliocken15:41
ochosiyeah, looks like they don't use the normal button theming there15:41
ochosii noticed problems with that dialog before15:41
ochosii.e. there's a different background-color inside the tab15:41
ochosihaven't had time to investigate this15:42
ochosiin fact it would mean starting to read pavucontrol's code15:42
ochosileo-unglaub: try to unfocus the toggle-button, then it looks ok15:44
ochosi(e.g. hit tab)15:44
leo-unglaubhmmm, no, it only looks normal if i unfocus the complete window15:44
ochosiare you sure?15:46
ochosii'd have to check in precise to be sure, but in oneiric i see the same behavior15:46
ochosiyou can also check by using another tab and after activating mute clicking e.g. a combobox15:47
ochosihmm, the bg-color issue seems to come from a lot of packing (hboxes in alignments and scrolledwindows etc.)15:48
ochosii guess i could try to add those widgets directly, but it's odd that they don't inherit the color from the gtknotebook15:49
carnauochosi, http://i.imgur.com/NKUzb.png15:49
carnautake in care that i'm not designer. i think it's more clear if the bg is brighter.15:50
ochosicarnau: ah right, that shouldn't be like this. i have to add theming for the gtkscale within a menu then15:50
astraljava*gah* There's a _really small_ quota on how many to contact through LP. Uncool, as many don't make their email public, and so when you have pending memberships, how can you contact them for asking further info?15:51
ochosinot at all?15:51
astraljavaYep, that's how.15:51
ochosicarnau: would you have time to test a quick fix?15:52
carnauyes15:53
ochosiok, then i'll take a quick stab at it15:53
carnauok15:53
carnaui'm free until barcelona plays tonight :-)15:54
ochosihehe15:54
carnauwell, i have to do some math too15:54
carnaumaybe at 19pm15:55
ochosicarnau: ok, a quick something is in the unity-branch now15:57
ochosi(you might have to restart unity again)15:57
carnaudon't remember the url15:58
ochosiok, one sec15:58
ochosihttps://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tarball/unity15:58
carnauochosi, it's done, what i have to test?16:04
ochosithe indicator that you showed me in your screenshot?16:04
carnauit's in the same colo16:05
carnau*color16:05
ochosihm ok16:05
ochosithat's unfortunate16:06
ochosihave to take a closer look then16:06
carnauok16:06
astraljavaknome: micahg: Who else is in Xubuntu Team; may I have a word at some point about the policy of our Testers group? I'm not sure it needs to be a moderated one. But I'm off for a while now, just ping me when you have time/wanna talk about it.16:08
pleia2astraljava: charlie-tca is still the leader of that until the release, so I'm thinking we discuss it after that as we have to work to re-organize the team16:10
ochosicarnau: mind to try again?16:16
carnauok16:16
astraljavapleia2: Yeah I'm okay with that.16:18
carnauochosi, no, don't changed16:19
ochosimeh16:19
ochosii fear i might have to install unity myself to test :'(16:19
pleia2(fwiw, I tend to agree, I just don't want to rock the boat just before he steps down, I'm not sure what caused him to leave so abruptly but I don't want to upset him more)16:19
ochosipleia2: +116:20
ochosicarnau: one last try?16:22
ochosicarnau: btw, could you check that you really downloaded/extracted the archive correctly?16:22
ochosicarnau: unity.css should look like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/935656/16:23
carnauok, give me a second to do it16:23
ochosithanks16:23
ochosias you can see i'd rather have you jump through the hoops than install unity myself ;)16:24
carnauyes, i saw it :p16:24
carnaufile downloaded: shimmerproject-Greybird-v0.8-3-gbd178f3.tar.gz16:24
carnaucss file: http://pastebin.com/DFxkkA0j16:27
carnaurestarting session...16:27
carnauochosi, i promise you that it have the same color16:29
ochosimeh16:29
ochosiok16:29
ochosii'm tapping in the dark a bit, because i don't know what kind of widget/object hierarchy the gtk3 indicator menus have16:31
carnauthere is no doc?16:31
carnauis there*16:31
ochosinot really, i only have ambiance that i can take a look at16:31
ochosiand since they use orange (which works on dark and bright bg) they don't theme that specifically16:32
carnauok, i understand.16:32
carnaureally, i never made a theme16:33
carnaudon't know how it works16:33
ochosiso all i can do is guess where the scale is in the widget hierarchy (or read indicator code)16:33
carnauwell, i'm going to play IRacing now, maybe we can test it later? or tomorrow?16:35
ochosicarnau: hm, wait one sec?16:37
carnauok16:37
ochosithanks, i'm talking to the ambiance author right now16:40
ochosiok, i hope it works *now*16:43
ochosicarnau: ^16:43
ochosi(keeping fingers crossed)16:43
carnaulet's see16:44
ochosiso, does it look any different?16:48
carnaudo you have a b plan?16:49
ochosino, this really should work16:49
ochosiplan b is to install unity myself and test it myself ;)16:49
carnaujust kidding ;-) http://i.imgur.com/9oIeK.png16:50
ochosiphew ;)16:50
ochosiok, now i can start to tweak that theming to look normal16:50
carnaugreat16:51
ochosiwill you be around tomorrow or sometime before the big game again?16:51
carnaui don't know if i will be tonight, but i'm sure that I will be here tomorrow. I have to work hahahaah16:52
ochosi:)16:52
ochosiok, tomorrow is early enough16:52
ochosii'll tweak this a bit and you can test it tomorrow16:53
ochosicarnau: enjoy the game/s and thanks for testing16:54
carnauok, no problem. I will be here from 8 to 13 or so16:54
carnaui live in spain gmt +216:54
carnausure, hope we can beat chelsea :-)16:55
ochosiheh16:55
ochosi"you" lost yesterday, and the bavarians were really playing better football16:55
carnauno problem for testing, i've used xfce a lot for some of my desktops. It's good to reward this with some testing :-)16:56
ochosinice16:56
carnaui'm fcb supporter. I'm happy that bayern won yesterday :-)16:57
carnauvery very happy!16:57
ochosi:)16:58
ochosicarnau: ok, the last changes are pushed, so feel free to test whenever and ping me tomorrow17:05
carnauok!17:50
Unit193astraljava: You're it.18:55
astraljavaI'm what? I've been called many things, but never 'it'.18:58
Unit193Question hours ago, you get main tester next cycle. :D18:58
astraljavaUnit193: Yeah, right. Well we haven't discussed that, yet. I'm the QA contact person, but that's still different from a team lead. I can imagine knome and others having a differing opinion.19:00
jussiUnit193: fail. astraljava belongs to me next cycle20:29
Unit193Bawh, that's no good....20:31
Unit193And \o jussi20:31
jussihi, and bye... its bedtime20:31
astraljavaHe's hallucinating again. He's confusing me with the sheep. Poor lad.20:32
Unit193Nighty, night.20:32
* micahg wonders what jussi is running next cycle21:04
astraljavatreadmill?21:14
ochosilol21:14
ochositesting 4.10 currently in precise21:15
astraljavaOoh... how does it look?21:15
Unit193It is great, from what I've seen.21:16
ochosiit looks and works great21:18
Unit193Yea, you saw the screenshot album?21:22
ochosiUnit193: what screenshot-album?23:40

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