[08:52] <mr_pouit> http://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/Ubuntu%2012.04/
[08:52] <mr_pouit> *g*
[08:53] <mr_pouit> "* Converted from .tgz format to .deb by alien version 8.85"
[08:59] <ochosi> hehe
[08:59] <ochosi> very nice
[08:59] <ochosi> i hope we get a lot of bugreports about that ;)
[09:12] <knome> ok, now you are able to manage languages...
[09:21] <knome> bbl
[09:37] <Saurabh_123> Hello, will xubuntu 12.04 final include xfce 4.10?
[09:38] <mr_pouit> hi, no, it will include Xfce 4.8 plus some features backported from 4.10
[09:38] <Saurabh_123> ok
[09:39] <Saurabh_123> mr_pouit, is there a way to install mintmenu in xubuntu?
[09:40] <Saurabh_123> I tried installing, but there a lot of missing dependencies
[09:41] <mr_pouit> I guess someone made a ppa for that. Try to ask in classic support channels, people may know
[09:43] <Saurabh_123> I tried the ppa, but its not working in xubuntu 12.04
[09:45] <Saurabh_123> anyways, who sponsors Xubuntu?
[09:47] <mr_pouit> it's community-maintained, so I guess nobody.
[12:48] <astraljava> Who's taking care of the Xubuntu Testers team nowadays? Charlie hasn't responded to that one application we got an email of in a timely manner like he used to.
[14:50] <astraljava> Oh, oops.
[14:51] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: hi, i maybe have found a grafical issue in the latest xubuntu
[14:51] <leo-unglaub> in the autio options it's sometimes not easy to tell if am option is checke or not
[15:36] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: hey, mind to take a quick screenshot of what you mean?
[15:40] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: http://img802.imageshack.us/i/auswahl001.png/ <- clicked
[15:40] <leo-unglaub> http://img72.imageshack.us/i/auswahl002a.png/ <- not clicked
[15:40] <leo-unglaub> äh, different way
[15:41] <leo-unglaub> first is not clicken and the secound is cliocken
[15:41] <ochosi> yeah, looks like they don't use the normal button theming there
[15:41] <ochosi> i noticed problems with that dialog before
[15:41] <ochosi> i.e. there's a different background-color inside the tab
[15:42] <ochosi> haven't had time to investigate this
[15:42] <ochosi> in fact it would mean starting to read pavucontrol's code
[15:44] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: try to unfocus the toggle-button, then it looks ok
[15:44] <ochosi> (e.g. hit tab)
[15:44] <leo-unglaub> hmmm, no, it only looks normal if i unfocus the complete window
[15:46] <ochosi> are you sure?
[15:46] <ochosi> i'd have to check in precise to be sure, but in oneiric i see the same behavior
[15:47] <ochosi> you can also check by using another tab and after activating mute clicking e.g. a combobox
[15:48] <ochosi> hmm, the bg-color issue seems to come from a lot of packing (hboxes in alignments and scrolledwindows etc.)
[15:49] <ochosi> i guess i could try to add those widgets directly, but it's odd that they don't inherit the color from the gtknotebook
[15:49] <carnau> ochosi, http://i.imgur.com/NKUzb.png
[15:50] <carnau> take in care that i'm not designer. i think it's more clear if the bg is brighter.
[15:50] <ochosi> carnau: ah right, that shouldn't be like this. i have to add theming for the gtkscale within a menu then
[15:51] <astraljava> *gah* There's a _really small_ quota on how many to contact through LP. Uncool, as many don't make their email public, and so when you have pending memberships, how can you contact them for asking further info?
[15:51] <ochosi> not at all?
[15:51] <astraljava> Yep, that's how.
[15:52] <ochosi> carnau: would you have time to test a quick fix?
[15:53] <carnau> yes
[15:53] <ochosi> ok, then i'll take a quick stab at it
[15:53] <carnau> ok
[15:54] <carnau> i'm free until barcelona plays tonight :-)
[15:54] <ochosi> hehe
[15:54] <carnau> well, i have to do some math too
[15:55] <carnau> maybe at 19pm
[15:57] <ochosi> carnau: ok, a quick something is in the unity-branch now
[15:57] <ochosi> (you might have to restart unity again)
[15:58] <carnau> don't remember the url
[15:58] <ochosi> ok, one sec
[15:58] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tarball/unity
[16:04] <carnau> ochosi, it's done, what i have to test?
[16:04] <ochosi> the indicator that you showed me in your screenshot?
[16:05] <carnau> it's in the same colo
[16:05] <carnau> *color
[16:05] <ochosi> hm ok
[16:06] <ochosi> that's unfortunate
[16:06] <ochosi> have to take a closer look then
[16:06] <carnau> ok
[16:08] <astraljava> knome: micahg: Who else is in Xubuntu Team; may I have a word at some point about the policy of our Testers group? I'm not sure it needs to be a moderated one. But I'm off for a while now, just ping me when you have time/wanna talk about it.
[16:10] <pleia2> astraljava: charlie-tca is still the leader of that until the release, so I'm thinking we discuss it after that as we have to work to re-organize the team
[16:16] <ochosi> carnau: mind to try again?
[16:16] <carnau> ok
[16:18] <astraljava> pleia2: Yeah I'm okay with that.
[16:19] <carnau> ochosi, no, don't changed
[16:19] <ochosi> meh
[16:19] <ochosi> i fear i might have to install unity myself to test :'(
[16:19] <pleia2> (fwiw, I tend to agree, I just don't want to rock the boat just before he steps down, I'm not sure what caused him to leave so abruptly but I don't want to upset him more)
[16:20] <ochosi> pleia2: +1
[16:22] <ochosi> carnau: one last try?
[16:22] <ochosi> carnau: btw, could you check that you really downloaded/extracted the archive correctly?
[16:23] <ochosi> carnau: unity.css should look like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/935656/
[16:23] <carnau> ok, give me a second to do it
[16:23] <ochosi> thanks
[16:24] <ochosi> as you can see i'd rather have you jump through the hoops than install unity myself ;)
[16:24] <carnau> yes, i saw it :p
[16:24] <carnau> file downloaded: shimmerproject-Greybird-v0.8-3-gbd178f3.tar.gz
[16:27] <carnau> css file: http://pastebin.com/DFxkkA0j
[16:27] <carnau> restarting session...
[16:29] <carnau> ochosi, i promise you that it have the same color
[16:29] <ochosi> meh
[16:29] <ochosi> ok
[16:31] <ochosi> i'm tapping in the dark a bit, because i don't know what kind of widget/object hierarchy the gtk3 indicator menus have
[16:31] <carnau> there is no doc?
[16:31] <carnau> is there*
[16:31] <ochosi> not really, i only have ambiance that i can take a look at
[16:32] <ochosi> and since they use orange (which works on dark and bright bg) they don't theme that specifically
[16:32] <carnau> ok, i understand.
[16:33] <carnau> really, i never made a theme
[16:33] <carnau> don't know how it works
[16:33] <ochosi> so all i can do is guess where the scale is in the widget hierarchy (or read indicator code)
[16:35] <carnau> well, i'm going to play IRacing now, maybe we can test it later? or tomorrow?
[16:37] <ochosi> carnau: hm, wait one sec?
[16:37] <carnau> ok
[16:40] <ochosi> thanks, i'm talking to the ambiance author right now
[16:43] <ochosi> ok, i hope it works *now*
[16:43] <ochosi> carnau: ^
[16:43] <ochosi> (keeping fingers crossed)
[16:44] <carnau> let's see
[16:48] <ochosi> so, does it look any different?
[16:49] <carnau> do you have a b plan?
[16:49] <ochosi> no, this really should work
[16:49] <ochosi> plan b is to install unity myself and test it myself ;)
[16:50] <carnau> just kidding ;-) http://i.imgur.com/9oIeK.png
[16:50] <ochosi> phew ;)
[16:50] <ochosi> ok, now i can start to tweak that theming to look normal
[16:51] <carnau> great
[16:51] <ochosi> will you be around tomorrow or sometime before the big game again?
[16:52] <carnau> i don't know if i will be tonight, but i'm sure that I will be here tomorrow. I have to work hahahaah
[16:52] <ochosi> :)
[16:52] <ochosi> ok, tomorrow is early enough
[16:53] <ochosi> i'll tweak this a bit and you can test it tomorrow
[16:54] <ochosi> carnau: enjoy the game/s and thanks for testing
[16:54] <carnau> ok, no problem. I will be here from 8 to 13 or so
[16:54] <carnau> i live in spain gmt +2
[16:55] <carnau> sure, hope we can beat chelsea :-)
[16:55] <ochosi> heh
[16:55] <ochosi> "you" lost yesterday, and the bavarians were really playing better football
[16:56] <carnau> no problem for testing, i've used xfce a lot for some of my desktops. It's good to reward this with some testing :-)
[16:56] <ochosi> nice
[16:57] <carnau> i'm fcb supporter. I'm happy that bayern won yesterday :-)
[16:57] <carnau> very very happy!
[16:58] <ochosi> :)
[17:05] <ochosi> carnau: ok, the last changes are pushed, so feel free to test whenever and ping me tomorrow
[17:50] <carnau> ok!
[18:55] <Unit193> astraljava: You're it.
[18:58] <astraljava> I'm what? I've been called many things, but never 'it'.
[18:58] <Unit193> Question hours ago, you get main tester next cycle. :D
[19:00] <astraljava> Unit193: Yeah, right. Well we haven't discussed that, yet. I'm the QA contact person, but that's still different from a team lead. I can imagine knome and others having a differing opinion.
[20:29] <jussi> Unit193: fail. astraljava belongs to me next cycle
[20:31] <Unit193> Bawh, that's no good....
[20:31] <Unit193> And \o jussi
[20:31] <jussi> hi, and bye... its bedtime
[20:32] <astraljava> He's hallucinating again. He's confusing me with the sheep. Poor lad.
[20:32] <Unit193> Nighty, night.
[21:04]  * micahg wonders what jussi is running next cycle
[21:14] <astraljava> treadmill?
[21:14] <ochosi> lol
[21:15] <ochosi> testing 4.10 currently in precise
[21:15] <astraljava> Ooh... how does it look?
[21:16] <Unit193> It is great, from what I've seen.
[21:18] <ochosi> it looks and works great
[21:22] <Unit193> Yea, you saw the screenshot album?
[23:40] <ochosi> Unit193: what screenshot-album?