| bryceh | jeez, mterri gave me a loose strand of yarn from a sweater... | 00:42 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:47 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: FYI, #u-release wanted an FFE bug for your lightdm upload; it looks good otherwise | 04:48 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: pong | 04:48 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ah, ok | 04:48 |
| pitti | Laney: it already indicates if there are third-party packages installed | 04:48 |
| pitti | not third-party sources, though, I believe | 04:48 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:22 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:22 |
| * BigWhale opens one eye. | 05:22 | |
| didrocks | hey pitti! | 05:22 |
| BigWhale | Morning. | 05:22 |
| didrocks | morning BigWhale | 05:22 |
| didrocks | and a first kernel panic of the day | 05:27 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, kernel panic? what are you doing? | 05:30 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: nothing, it's happening to me approximately every 2 days when my disk is writing a lot | 05:30 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: I pinged apw, but as I have no info on disk after reboot… | 05:30 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Boo. That's the one on your nvidia machine, then? | 06:48 |
| didrocks | RAOF: yeah | 06:48 |
| tjaalton | could be related to the latest update, which upstream admits is buggy | 06:49 |
| tjaalton | nvidia blob update that is | 06:49 |
| RAOF | Nah; this has been going on for quite some time, right didrocks? | 06:49 |
| didrocks | ah? I get it for the past month and half approx, does it make sense? | 06:49 |
| tjaalton | oh ok, then it's not that | 06:49 |
| rickspencer3 | hey didrocks did those last unity regressions get sorted to your satisfaction? | 06:52 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: it did for me indeed. There are some other perf issues that have a fix pending, but it's only when the dash is opened. The safer at this stage is a SRU IMHO. I plan to get every fixes merges for next Thursday, to push in -proposed by then | 06:53 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, thanks for the update | 07:01 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 07:01 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:37 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson, everyone: g'mornin' | 07:40 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:40 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson, Sweetshark | 07:40 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: bug 984942 is evil. | 07:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 984942 in libreoffice "LO help appears partially untranslated (dup-of: 957589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984942 | 07:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 957589 in libreoffice "LibreOffice ignores localized help" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/957589 | 07:41 |
| chrisccoulson | hey Sweetshark, pitti, didrocks | 07:41 |
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| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i'm thinking about tackling a 5-digit bug today! | 07:46 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: go! | 07:47 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: urgh, didn't we have a similar issue in Calc the other day? | 07:47 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: is the corresponding libo-help-XX actually installed? | 07:48 |
| pitti | Gabor confirmed, I think he checked that | 07:48 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: it only happens when you have libo-help-en-US installed too. If you uninstall -en-US it works fine. | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I suspect it to be a secret plot by the french in this channel to break the english monopoly. | 07:53 |
| didrocks | damned, we have to do something else now :) | 07:54 |
| didrocks | jibel: hey, is jenkins down? :) | 08:05 |
| didrocks | ah no, it's up again, I think the 404 error was either in my cache from yesterday or a hickup | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:12 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 08:18 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 08:19 | |
| seb128 | pitti, how are you? | 08:19 |
| dupondje | please join a private chan for this ... :) | 08:19 |
| seb128 | heh | 08:20 |
| pitti | seb128: quite fine, thanks; feeling my muscles from TKD training :) | 08:20 |
| pitti | today I'm glad to have a desk job | 08:21 |
| seb128 | hehe, I guess it's a good thing, some exercice ;-) | 08:21 |
| seb128 | was tkd intense yesterday? | 08:21 |
| pitti | yeah, quite | 08:21 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, so, I just used another login account on my system, when I came back to this account, my trackpad was not working | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | trackpad works in lightdm and in guest session, though | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | I plugging in a mouse, also works | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, any suggestions on how to get debug info? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, it was working before changing ussers? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, hey btw ;-) | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | hi seb128 ;) | 08:29 |
| rickspencer3 | yes, it wasw working before changing users | 08:29 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, oh, the buttons work, just not the pointing | 08:29 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: do you see it in "xinput"? | 08:29 |
| pitti | ah, you would then, if the buttons work | 08:29 |
| RAOF | rickspencer3: “synclient -l” lists a bunch of potentially interesting info. | 08:30 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: hm, I'm afraid I have no off-hand idea; I don't know how input devices work at that level | 08:30 |
| pitti | ... but RAOF would! ;-) | 08:30 |
| * RAOF wonders why his TouchpadOff variable is 2 | 08:30 | |
| pitti | rickspencer3: a low-level test whether the kernel sees events is: | 08:31 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/936598/ | 08:31 |
| pitti | check /dev/input/by-id/ for which event number your touchpad is | 08:31 |
| pitti | and then run sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX | 08:31 |
| pitti | (with replacing X) | 08:31 |
| pitti | and then move the touchpad and see whether you get some output | 08:32 |
| pitti | I get tons of "(no scan code received) key code: reserved" with each movement here | 08:32 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, how do I find the "id" of the touchpad? | 08:32 |
| rickspencer3 | or just use tab? | 08:33 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: as I said, you need to look into /dev/input/by-id/ and guess | 08:33 |
| pitti | oh, the touchpad might not be there, hang on | 08:33 |
| RAOF | rickspencer3: You can use “xinput list” to find the id of your trackpad, then “xinput list-props $ID” to list the properties of it; one of which will be it's /dev/input/event? node. | 08:33 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: udevadm info --export-db | grep -B3 ID_INPUT_TOUCHPAD | 08:34 |
| pitti | if that e. g. says DEVNAME=/dev/input/event11 | 08:34 |
| pitti | then use "keymap -i input/event11" | 08:34 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: if you press buttons, you should see "scan code: 0x90001 key code: 110" | 08:34 |
| pitti | and if you move mouse, "no scan code received" | 08:35 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, is "keymap" a program name? | 08:35 |
| pitti | "and then run sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX" | 08:36 |
| pitti | sorry for abbreviating | 08:36 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, I assume this means I should be using event6 ? | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | E: DEVPATH=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6/event6 | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | E: ID_INPUT=1 | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | E: ID_INPUT.tags=inspiron_1011 | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | E: ID_INPUT_TOUCHPAD=1 | 08:37 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: correct | 08:37 |
| pitti | sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/event6 | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, ok, it's not registering any events, though the buttons are working | 08:38 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: not even for buttons? | 08:38 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I presume the buttons are separate from the trackpad | 08:38 |
| pitti | that's weird | 08:38 |
| RAOF | rickspencer3: What does ‘xinput list-props $ID’ (with ID gathered from xinput list) show? | 08:39 |
| rickspencer3 | weird, I tried all the #s from 1 and the buttons never showed up | 08:40 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, sorry, I'm not sure where you want me to find $ID | 08:42 |
| RAOF | run ‘xinput list’, that'll spit out a list of all the input devices X thinks you have, and their IDs as seen by X. | 08:42 |
| RAOF | For example, http://paste2.org/p/1985724 is mine. | 08:43 |
| RAOF | And my trackpad has ID 12. | 08:43 |
| RAOF | (I could also use “SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad” as the ID, but the number is substantially easier to get past the shell ☺) | 08:43 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, ok, there is a lot of output, hold on | 08:43 |
| Laney | pitti: Could you take a look at bug #968845 quickly please and see if you think it'd be appropriate to add a quirk to pm-utils for it? | 08:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 968845 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "bcm5974 touchpad doesn't work after S3 on MacBookAir" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968845 | 08:43 |
| RAOF | Laney: Didn't that get fixed in the xserver yet? | 08:44 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/936607/ | 08:44 |
| RAOF | Laney: Ah, sorry. Wrong context :) | 08:44 |
| Laney | nein :P | 08:44 |
| RAOF | rickspencer3: Hm. Nothing seems suspicious there. | 08:47 |
| * rickspencer3 ponders | 08:48 | |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, well, I have that info saved | 08:48 |
| rickspencer3 | I haven't updated in days | 08:48 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll see if I can make a reproducer for this | 08:48 |
| rickspencer3 | if so, I'll log a bug and subscribe you | 08:48 |
| RAOF | Thanks. | 08:48 |
| rickspencer3 | otherwise, I'll assume this all happened in a dream | 08:48 |
| pitti | Laney: if it's confirmed to work (i. e. the module or X.org don't act up on module removal/readdition), it sounds fine to me | 08:51 |
| pitti | Laney: but it should have a proper upstream kernel bug report, as it's just a workaround | 08:51 |
| Laney | well, they 'act up' in that some options are reset | 08:51 |
| Laney | i.e. horizontal scrolling | 08:51 |
| Laney | but it's better than the alternative which is the primary button being pressed all of the time | 08:52 |
| Laney | I'm hoping Chase will handle a proper fix at some point :-) | 08:52 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure, but that might be a part of his input fixes on the xorg mailing list at the moment. | 08:54 |
| bryceh | rickspencer3, MacbookPro? | 08:54 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, dell mini 10v | 08:55 |
| chrisccoulson | nice: https://twitter.com/#!/hsivonen/status/192898790078943232 :) | 08:56 |
| bryceh | rickspencer3, I don't think you're alone, we've had other similar reports (usually correlated to S3 rather than logout/login). Most reports are MacBookPro. | 08:59 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, hmmm, sounds kernelly | 08:59 |
| rickspencer3 | ^incisive technical analysis | 08:59 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, ok, I'll work on seeing if I can make a reproducer | 08:59 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, and data I can get you while I still have the issue? | 08:59 |
| RAOF | But it's only *your* user where it's broken, right? | 08:59 |
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| mpt | cyphermox, you're the person to ask about NetworkManager, right? | 09:00 |
| RAOF | I think bryceh is talking about bug #968845 which Laney brought up. | 09:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 968845 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "bcm5974 touchpad doesn't work after S3 on MacBookAir" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968845 | 09:00 |
| bryceh | rickspencer3, I've seen the symptom after s3 on one dell laptop but not my 10v | 09:00 |
| bryceh | rickspencer3, dmesg and lsmod, although I am doubtful either provide any useful data. | 09:01 |
| rickspencer3 | bryceh, this looks like the last mention of my touchpad in dmesg | 09:03 |
| rickspencer3 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/936623/ | 09:03 |
| bryceh | yeah, no error messages. you're probably right that it's a kernel bug. a bisection search might be called for. | 09:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: nice response in bug 983254 | 09:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 983254 in nux "Unity use ibus explicitly, make it impossible to use other input method" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983254 | 09:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: but I have the feeling there's little point in trying to further it.. | 09:08 |
| bryceh | nite | 09:08 |
| pitti | bryceh: sleep well | 09:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks! yeah, I agree this won't change anything now on. Hence that's why I told that I made my point and will stop on it :) | 09:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey | 09:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, happy friday! ;-) | 09:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: I didn't dare making that joke, but as you do it! Happy Friday! :) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you have some way before using that joke as much as I did in the easter week :p | 09:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, indeed, I'm in debt ;) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw mhr3 blames part of the dash opening slowness on you :p | 09:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems the slowest part for the app lens is gnome-menus reading .desktop files | 09:23 |
| mhr3 | yep, it's like 300ms on a warm system, i dont even want to know how much is it for cold start | 09:24 |
| seb128 | on you or on vuntz ;-) | 09:24 |
| didrocks | that's probably why with all my read issues on my hd, it's really aweful | 09:26 |
| didrocks | I don't remember, vuntz didn't like the one file trigger idea, isn't it? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure now | 09:26 |
| didrocks | should we add back a work item for next cycle to reapply what pitti did on the new gnome-menus? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | he didn't like the keyfile based file | 09:26 |
| seb128 | it was supposed to be redone with gvariant iirc | 09:27 |
| didrocks | hum, that would work, mapping it | 09:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: s/reapply/rework from scratch/, the old approach doesn't work any more | 09:27 |
| pitti | and not in python-gmenu | 09:27 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, is it that different? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | but from the gnome-menus changelog we dropped the patch because it didn't apply with the GNOME3 refactoring | 09:27 |
| seb128 | and we judged by then that without menus it was "less useful" | 09:27 |
| pitti | it remains to be seen whether a gvariant is really that much faster than reading a text file, but the implementation doesn't matter much I guess | 09:28 |
| seb128 | right | 09:28 |
| seb128 | I don't remember now if vuntz said that would work well with the new gnome-menus for some reason | 09:28 |
| seb128 | or if that's just that the patch needed to be refactored | 09:28 |
| vuntz | seb128: the patch would have to live in glib/gio now | 09:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz, oh, dropping it on desrt! I see ;-) | 09:31 |
| vuntz | seb128: since gnome-menus now just does "g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename (path)" (more or less) | 09:31 |
| vuntz | (and then rely on the GDesktopAppInfo API) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | ok, that was probably the reason we dropped it rather than trying to "port it", I didn't remember the details | 09:31 |
| seb128 | that's a bit tricky :-( | 09:31 |
| seb128 | vuntz, hey btw, how are you? ;-) | 09:33 |
| vuntz | good! | 09:33 |
| vuntz | I just had some early lunch (I missed breakfast), so now things are nearly perfect ;-) | 09:33 |
| vuntz | how are things in germany? :-) | 09:33 |
| seb128 | vuntz, you mean in alsace? | 09:35 |
| seb128 | good ;-) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | I had a late breakfast rather than an early lunch :p | 09:35 |
| vuntz | late breakfast is a good approach too :-) | 09:40 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: could you forward me your mail to ubuntu-desktop about libreoffice integration tests, so that I can reply to directly (I am subscribed digest only)? | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, I can try, I'm not sure thunderbird do proper "bouncing", if that doesn't work you might want to try pitti, I'm sure mutt does ;-) | 09:46 |
| pitti | yes, can do | 09:46 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: you have it | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:48 |
| kenvandine | good morning all! | 09:55 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, it's a middle of night ken! | 10:00 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, having sleeping troubles? | 10:00 |
| kenvandine | nah, just getting a couple hours of work in before the kids get up :) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, isn't like 6am for you? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what a brave man ;-) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks for getting the datetime fix in! | 10:01 |
| kenvandine | seb128, thx for testing it! | 10:01 |
| didrocks | hey kenvandine, you should grab a coffee :) | 10:02 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, on my second cup :) | 10:03 |
| didrocks | heh ;) | 10:03 |
| Sweetshark | pitti, seb128: thanks a lot | 10:25 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey didrocks I was just about to go to bed when I saw this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/985539 | 10:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 985539 in unity "Awkward graphic glitches in Compiz" [Undecided,New] | 10:39 |
| didrocks | looking | 10:39 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: you saw it, you mean, you reproduce the issue? | 10:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | didrocks: no, sorry, saw the bug report | 10:40 |
| didrocks | or just saw the bug? | 10:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | yeah | 10:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | wasn't sure if real or if others were seeing for some reason... | 10:40 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: well, we didn't hear anything like that lately, so it seems to be an isolated issue. | 10:41 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: we can still poke the opengl guys on it | 10:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | didrocks: that is what I was hoping for | 10:41 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: but at least, it's not a widespread issue | 10:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | (both of those, thanks) | 10:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | yes, good.. :) | 10:41 |
| didrocks | you can go to bed :) | 10:41 |
| kklimonda | seb128: wrt bug 951000 it seems to be some weird issue with apparmor - there are a lot of appamor messages in dmesg when I login as guest.. unfortunately by disabling apparmor *once* I've apparently fixed the issue and now I can't debug it any further :( | 10:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 951000 in lightdm "disable guest session screen lock using gsettings" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/951000 | 10:42 |
| kklimonda | dbus-daemon gets a lot of denied_mask="r" on /proc/[pid]/cmdline | 10:43 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, weird | 10:44 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, did you try to reboot to see if it still happens after restart? | 10:44 |
| kklimonda | seb128: yeah, it doesn't | 10:44 |
| seb128 | ok, weird, I guess you can close the bug | 10:44 |
| seb128 | not a lot we can do if it stopped happening | 10:44 |
| kklimonda | seb128: it's like disabling apparmor let lightdm write something somewhere which has fixed the issue | 10:45 |
| seb128 | I will try on a new install later today when I do iso testing | 10:45 |
| kklimonda | unfortunately there is nothing in the audit.. really weird | 10:45 |
| kklimonda | (nothing that would suggest that apparmor is denying writing to files) | 10:45 |
| kklimonda | seb128: actually now that I checked "gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled" returns true but the "lock session" menu entry is gone, ctrl+alt+L doesn't work and the related "Lock & Brightness" options are disabled.. | 10:47 |
| kklimonda | switching between guest and "user" session doesn't look the screen so it seems to be working fine | 10:48 |
| kklimonda | lock* | 10:48 |
| rickspencer3 | jasoncwarner_, hey, still around? I heard something about a new sound theme earlier this cycle, did anything come of that? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, I can reply to that if you want ;-) | 10:50 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, yes please | 10:50 |
| rickspencer3 | ;) | 10:50 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, it was too late for precise | 10:51 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks seb128 | 10:54 |
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| didrocks | hum thunder and rain, I'm sure it's seb128's fault :) | 12:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no rain here! ;-) | 12:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: see, your fault, you send it to me! :) | 12:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I like to share! | 12:24 |
| didrocks | yeah, sometimes you can keep that for you :p | 12:24 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:24 |
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| seb128 | does anyone know about at-spi-bus-launcher and what it's useful for? | 13:02 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:07 |
| seb128 | dunno about at-spi but I opened bug #985640 and assigned to TheMuso | 13:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 985640 in unity-greeter "use wrong path for at-spi-bus-launcher command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985640 | 13:08 |
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| cyphermox | mpt: yes, I'm the perso to ask about NetworkManager, how can I help you? | 14:15 |
| mpt | :-) | 14:16 |
| mpt | cyphermox, did awe ask you about WEP recently? | 14:17 |
| cyphermox | he asked about WEP passphrases or something like that | 14:17 |
| cyphermox | or do you mean WPS? | 14:17 |
| mpt | WEP passphrases, yes | 14:17 |
| cyphermox | that should work fine | 14:18 |
| cyphermox | it's a little weird looking though | 14:18 |
| cyphermox | I think the problem lies in the detection of what a user might want to fill in based on the configuration of the AP, I think in all cases it turns out asking you to enter a WEP hex key, rather than a passphrase when you could enter the passphrase; but both are available in UI | 14:19 |
| cyphermox | mpt: unfortunately I don't have a spare AP here in the office but I can muck with this some more later tonight | 14:20 |
| cyphermox | I opted to not bring a wireless router today ;) | 14:20 |
| cyphermox | nevermind that, there was one in the lab | 14:21 |
| mpt | cyphermox, ok, if he asked about it then I don't need to :-) | 14:21 |
| cyphermox | mpt: that weird WEP thing I noticed a few weeks ago, it's my mistake to not think more about it and file a bug, but I was helping a friend fix her wifi :) | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, bug 945987 sucks :( | 14:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 945987 in rhythmbox "No Settings are available in "Preferred format", only preset defaults are used" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/945987 | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | mpt: right, the detection is probably broken, but creating the wifi network manually works. just tested here and I can totally reproduce that issue | 14:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, ronoc is looking at it | 14:50 |
| ronoc | seb128, the line input bug or the encoding profile ? | 14:53 |
| ronoc | well i'm on both today | 14:53 |
| seb128 | ronoc, the profile one | 14:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how did you notice? | 14:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i just tried ripping a CD with rhythmbox ;) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, like do you do encoding? or did that got some user ranting on forums or twitter? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, ok | 14:58 |
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| seb128 | so bug #973491 wth | 15:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 973491 in nautilus "nautilus popup menu highlighting using copy and paste incorrect" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973491 | 15:34 |
| seb128 | does anyone has a clue what component could be buggy there? | 15:35 |
| seb128 | nautilus context menu items like "paste" are sometime displayed as unactive but yet still active, if they are rendered as unactive but you can select them and they work | 15:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, desrt, mterry: ^ any clue? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | same happen without appmenu, ie unset UBUNTU_MENUPROXY | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | humm | 15:36 |
| seb128 | demo on https://launchpadlibrarian.net/100170099/nautilus_bug.ogv | 15:37 |
| mterry | seb128, maybe an issue with the new 'unfocused window' support in compiz/light-themes? | 15:37 |
| mterry | but that would be the whole popup | 15:37 |
| mterry | not just one item | 15:37 |
| seb128 | right, I somewhat doubt it | 15:38 |
| seb128 | the first report is also from february and I think that compiz,theme change landed after that | 15:38 |
| seb128 | let me check the timing | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | it was late | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | so it looks like the new window getting focus after having the copy in the clipboard works | 15:38 |
| bdrung | hi, some indicators crashed with an update. can someone tell me how to launch them again? | 15:39 |
| mterry | Seems like theme has to be involved somewhere though... nautilus isn't doing custom popup drawing. (is it?!) | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | so maybe it is a signal getting lost | 15:39 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well, the menu is active, you can select it | 15:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm not sure... | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, try changing the theme | 15:39 |
| seb128 | bdrung, unity? which indicators? | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | or without compiz | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | to rule those out | 15:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, one report says it happens with unity2d | 15:40 |
| bdrung | seb128: unity + compiz. the indicators for messages and system | 15:40 |
| seb128 | bdrung, try restarting unity-panel-service | 15:40 |
| seb128 | but it's weird, they should autoreload on issues | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | i just reproduced it with adwaita | 15:41 |
| mterry | I don't get the paste bug myself. :-/ | 15:41 |
| mterry | kenvandine, nice | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, I get it every second try | 15:41 |
| seb128 | nautilus --quit and do what is on the video is enough for me | 15:41 |
| bdrung | seb128: http://paste.debian.net/163824/ | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 933744 states "this seems to happen on occasion in both unity (3d) & unity-2d" | 15:42 |
| seb128 | bdrung, is it one running? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | "(unity-panel-service:4640): Indicator-Appmenu-CRITICAL **: Unable to claim the name com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar" | 15:42 |
| seb128 | suggests there is | 15:42 |
| bdrung | yes, it's running, but killall told me it's not. | 15:43 |
| mterry | Nope, quiting nautilus doesn't give it to me... | 15:43 |
| seb128 | bdrung, kill -9 id | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | or pkill | 15:44 |
| bdrung | yes, kill -9 helped. it automatically relaunched it. | 15:44 |
| bdrung | thanks. all indicators are back. | 15:44 |
| seb128 | cool | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | i reproduced it in unity 2d as well | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | so not theme or compiz | 15:45 |
| seb128 | mterry, I need to open the context menu first | 15:45 |
| * kenvandine has to head out to lunch now, i get to have lunch with my son today :) | 15:45 | |
| kenvandine | bbl | 15:45 |
| seb128 | mterry, like nautilus; click on an empty part of the background to open the menu, then right click on an icon, copy, and try to paste | 15:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, have fun, ttyl ;-) | 15:45 |
| mterry | seb128, yup, did that several times | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, you got lucky then :p or it's a timing thing ... | 15:46 |
| mterry | oh | 15:46 |
| mterry | wait | 15:46 |
| mterry | i didn't do the pointless right click on empty first | 15:46 |
| mterry | I always went straight for the copy | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, that's the key part! | 15:46 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:46 |
| mterry | doh | 15:46 |
| mterry | yeah... | 15:47 |
| mterry | like the first context menu is 'locking in' the gray status for paste or something | 15:47 |
| mterry | I wonder if nautilus does do custom menu items | 15:47 |
| * seb128 does a build from upstream tarball without patch | 15:47 | |
| seb128 | mterry, what do you mean "custom menu items"? | 15:48 |
| seb128 | they use gtkuimanager I think | 15:48 |
| mterry | seb128, bummer. Like if they used menu items that had custom draw methods or something | 15:48 |
| seb128 | I doubt it | 15:48 |
| * mterry never underestimates the nautilus developers' love of writing code | 15:49 | |
| seb128 | it happens with the upstream tarball | 15:50 |
| seb128 | so not a local patch | 15:50 |
| mterry | rickspencer3, didrocks: quickly minus pygame just landed in precise | 15:50 |
| didrocks | mterry: awesome \o/ | 15:50 |
| rickspencer3 | mterry, does this mean I can uninstall desktopcouch now? | 15:50 |
| mterry | rickspencer3, quickly doesn't need it anymore, yeah | 15:50 |
| rickspencer3 | sweet! | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks mterry | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | I still think my pygame sprite library is pretty sweet | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll put it in another package | 15:51 |
| rickspencer3 | and it can continue to get zero usage from there | 15:51 |
| * mterry pats rickspencer3 on the back | 15:51 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, mterry: nothing like pinging upstream ;-) cosimoc has the issue on fedora and thinks it might be | 16:08 |
| seb128 | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672046 | 16:08 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 672046 in GtkStyleContext "Text-shadow in breadcrumbs needs attention" [Minor,New] | 16:08 |
| mterry | seb128, nice | 16:09 |
| didrocks | see you guys, have a good Friday and week-end! (tomorrow is off for me) | 17:16 |
| pitti | godo nighth everyone | 17:18 |
| pitti | (erk typing) | 17:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, iz beer'o'clock? | 17:21 |
| chrisccoulson | you don't need to realize a widget in gtk3 for it to have a GtkStyleContext, do you? | 17:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, good question for #gtk+ on irc.gnome.org | 17:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what are you looking at? | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's ok. i think i figured it out already | 17:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm reviewing the theme integration part of the gtk3 port of firefox | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | yay... gtk3 port of firefox! | 17:38 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 17:38 |
| seb128 | when does it land? :p | 17:38 |
| * kenvandine leaks to omg | 17:38 | |
| kenvandine | wait 3 minutes for them to post an article :) | 17:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, he said we would have firefox on gtk3 in precise right? ;-) | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | that is what i told omg | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | :-p | 17:39 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it's nothing to get excited about ;) | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | the patches have been there on bugzilla for ages now, and i've been assigned reviews to some of them for quite a while now | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | just taking the opportunity to clear those :) | 17:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, that means you clear backlog, soon you will look at g-s-d start time issues ;-) | 17:43 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, don't forget to email the desktop list about your chromium by default topic for UDS ;-) | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | which will get ported to gtk3 first... firefox or chromium | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | it's a race! | 17:44 |
| * kenvandine is actually kind of liking epiphany again, epiphany by default! | 17:46 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I'm waiting for somebody to suggest midori now | 17:47 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:47 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 17:47 |
| cyphermox | well, of course we should be using midori by default | 17:49 |
| seb128 | see! | 17:49 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey ;-) how are you? | 17:50 |
| cyphermox | not too bad | 17:50 |
| cyphermox | and you? | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | lynx! | 17:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I'm good thanks | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | the security team would love that | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | :) | 17:50 |
| cyphermox | I think we should switch default browsers every release to really make the security team love us | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 17:51 |
| dobey | athena ftw | 17:52 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, it won't be chromium. they're dropping gtk entirely ;) | 17:53 |
| chrisccoulson | and moving to their new aura toolkit across all platforms | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | I'm keeping suggesting w3m as default browser for the W release | 17:54 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, ugh... lets make it look more foreign | 17:57 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: so they can be as poorly integrated with Linux as Firefox? ;) | 18:09 |
| jbicha | epiphany-browser ftw | 18:13 |
| jbicha | lol | 18:13 |
| jbicha | or just use epiphany | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i just realized, as annoying as it is to have the name clash, i've never actually even looked at what epiphany is | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | just bitch and moan about having to install epiphany-browser | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | oh, that is chromium isn't it? | 18:15 |
| kklimonda | kenvandine: a boulder dash clone ;) | 18:15 |
| kklimonda | which I've discovered by installing it by accident - probably the way everyone else does ;) | 18:16 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: so chrome then. clearly we need another widget set in the default install. | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | dobey, yeah, we don't have enough yet | 18:18 |
| kklimonda | *sighs* | 18:18 |
| jbicha | can't we just use a Dash lens to browse the web? | 18:19 |
| * dobey ports ubuntuone to fltk | 18:19 | |
| kklimonda | dobey: you've already portet it to Qt, stop the madness before it's too late ;) | 18:22 |
| bcurtiswx | oh thunderbird why must you lie to me and show 2 unanswered emails when I'm pretty sure i've read them all :( | 18:26 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, is that for a gmail account? | 18:28 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, IDK it just shows 2 on the unity dock icon nothing in the app itself though | 18:28 |
| kenvandine | i think that is a gmail problem... i can't ever have zero unread messages in my gmail, even in the web ui | 18:28 |
| bcurtiswx | the web UI shows 0 for me.. | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | if i mark all as read, gmail still says there are 2 unread | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | been that way for years | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | drives me nuts | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | and if you filter on unread it finds none | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | that is probably chrisccoulson's fault then :) | 18:29 |
| bcurtiswx | so I should hire a team of people with pitchforms and firesticks to march towards his home? | 18:30 |
| bcurtiswx | pitchforks* | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, you would get pretty wet | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:30 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, ferry's aren't _THAT_ expensive... | 18:30 |
| bcurtiswx | OK, gotta head out then bowling later, nite all | 18:32 |
| kenvandine | later | 18:32 |
| kenvandine | have fun | 18:32 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, you don't want another widget set in the default install? everybody loves chrome, don't they? ;) | 19:12 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: i'm trying to diversify our profile. i'll make sure we use at least 5 in u1 for 12.10 :) | 19:13 |
| chrisccoulson | mmm, beer | 19:14 |
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| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, i'll have a tasty one tonight in your honor :) | 19:50 |
| Ursinha | hey guys, I was wondering if I was on crack when I saw some unity configuration options in All Settings->Appearance | 20:02 |
| kenvandine | Ursinha, not on crack :) | 20:03 |
| Ursinha | because I can't see it anymore | 20:03 |
| Ursinha | maybe I'm on crack now? :) | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | i still see them | 20:03 |
| Ursinha | hm | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | bottom of the panel on the "Look" tab there is launcher icon size | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | a slider | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | and on the "Behavior" tab | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | there is autohide | 20:04 |
| Ursinha | that on Appearance, right? | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | yes | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | not seeing that? | 20:05 |
| Ursinha | no | 20:05 |
| Ursinha | I saw that when I installed | 20:05 |
| Ursinha | but now -- after a couple of unity --replace s -- it's not there anymore | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | odd | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | maybe those are only displayed when you are running unity and it doesn't realize you are running unity now? | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | Ursinha, try a logout and back in and see | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | could be a bug there | 20:06 |
| Ursinha | yes, I think it's a bug | 20:06 |
| Ursinha | will do that, a moment | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | i guess it would make sense for them to only be displayed in unity, so it must be that | 20:07 |
| Ursinha | kenvandine, there you go, logged in with another user and a fresh logged unity displayed the options there | 20:08 |
| Ursinha | but once I unity --replace, it's still unity, right? | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | Ursinha, i would think it should be | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | i just confirmed it isn't there in a gnome classic session | 20:09 |
| Ursinha | I'll file a bug | 20:09 |
| Ursinha | right | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | and the launcher size slider isn't there in unity-2d | 20:09 |
| Ursinha | I'll file a bug then | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | thx | 20:09 |
| Ursinha | thanks for your help kenvandine ! | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | np | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | thx for finding bugs! | 20:10 |
| Ursinha | :) | 20:10 |
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