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bkerensaDarkwing: you about?01:36
Darkwingbkerensa: aye01:36
bkerensaPM?01:36
bkerensapleia2: do they ever sell CD's or swag at UDS that way I can avoid the expensive cost of overseas?02:34
Darkwingbkerensa: yes, they did at the last UDS02:54
pleia2bkerensa: they sell swag and give away CDs03:21
pleia2but buy early, they tend to run out of stuff :)03:21
bkerensaNice03:21
bkerensapleia2: Are things priced in Pounds or? :P03:22
bkerensapleia2: and how much will the t-shirts for Q cost?03:22
pleia2bkerensa: all registered attendees get a UDS one, and you'll get a staff t-shirt too03:23
bkerensapleia2: apparently I wont get the crew shirt because I volunteered to crew and was not actually assigned03:23
bkerensa:)03:23
pleia2ah03:24
bkerensaalthough they did have a slot unfilled which is why I volunteered03:24
bkerensa:P03:24
pleia2I didn't get one the first year because I came a day late and the crew lead took one03:24
bkerensa:D03:24
bkerensawell the sad thing is I will likely give my UDS shirt away since Canonical doesn't make 3X t-shirts03:25
bkerensaeven though the UDS registration did have a tick for 3X I am kind of assuming that they wont have them03:25
pleia2I thought they had them last time, but I didn't pay that close attention03:26
pleia2(I'm still glad they have women's sizes at all!)03:26
pleia2even if they are the typical women's XL == men's medium type sizing03:26
bkerensa:D03:26
bkerensaI wish I could ask Cezzaine to bring all the Kubuntu pens left.... I would buy them all at UDS to avoid shipping costs03:27
pleia2why can't you ask?03:27
bkerensapleia2: I'm probably going to :)03:27
pleia2:)03:27
bkerensaIm going to need to bring an extra suitcase for swag I buy and souvenirs from the trip03:28
pleia2hehe03:28
bkerensapleia2: aside from CD's and a shirt is their any other swags :D03:28
bkerensafree*03:28
pleia2openstack sometimes comes with t-shirts03:28
pleia2and there are usually issues of Ubuntu User magazine,03:28
pleia2stickers (ubuntu ones, and last time thunderbird ones)03:29
bkerensaoh cool03:29
pleia2they just sort of appear on tables for the taking randomly throughout the week03:29
bkerensaYeah Linux New Media is sending us a case of Ubuntu User and Linux Pro for our release party03:29
pleia2sometimes people will bring goofy ubuntu things they made, one year someone brought ubuntu guitar picks03:29
bkerensaI hope not so many this time because I had like 300 extra issues for months03:29
pleia2hah, wow03:30
bkerensa:(03:30
bkerensayeah they dumped their extras I think03:30
pleia2I still have User magazines from SCALE :\03:30
bkerensapleia2: so at UDS is it common for their to be informal dinners or outings?03:30
pleia2yeah, in the evenings03:31
bkerensanice03:31
bkerensa:D03:31
bkerensaI hope MarkDude pops in to UDS.... he has been pretty gone lately03:31
pleia2so usually there is some kind of monday and tuesday nights sponsored cocktails, beer and hors d'oeuvres (which may be enough for dinner, usually is for me)03:31
pleia2that wraps up by 10, people go on adventures03:31
bkerensanice03:32
bkerensaadventures = bars03:32
bkerensa:D03:32
pleia2wednesday night tends to be pretty free (LoCo teams do stuff for attendees)03:32
pleia2and thursday is traditionally "team dinner" night for Canonical folks, so Community folks follow (we do our Ubuntu Women dinner then)03:32
pleia2and Friday is big wrap up party :)03:32
bkerensapleia2: so on Thursday thats open to folks involved in Comm too?03:34
bkerensaor just like Canonical Community Team + Councils03:34
pleia2bkerensa: they are all independently planned outings, usually I only figure out about them because I ask my buddy from the OEM team and he says "sorry, team dinner thursday" and then I ask someone from kernel and she says "sorry, team dinner Thursday" and I say "hey, wait a second!"03:34
bkerensalol03:35
bkerensa:D03:35
pleia2then "I guess I need to figure out what to do tonight!" :)03:35
bkerensawell any night I cant find some place to tag along I will be here http://www.yelp.com/biz/taqueria-canc%C3%BAn-san-francisco-503:35
bkerensamy favorite restaurant in SF03:35
pleia2wednesday might be a good night for that, we pop over there after noisebridge linux night sometimes03:36
pleia2which is wednesday night03:36
pleia2but wednesday night is also tourism, photograph, debian dinner...03:38
* pleia2 cloneself03:38
bkerensa:D03:38
* bkerensa buzzes off for food03:39
philipballew_Darkwing, gettin famous in the Ubuntu blogs!04:19
bkerensa^05:22
Darkwingphilipballew: heh... it's about to get worse.13:28
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philipballewDarkwing, are you going to UDS?15:39
bkerensaDarkwing: PM15:43
bkerensa?15:43
DarkwingYes15:50
Darkwingand yes15:50
philipballewnice!15:54
DarkwingWeee, looks like Linux Journal is wanting to setup an interview heh15:56
* philipballew might actually buy an issue now15:58
pleia2they're digital these days15:59
philipballewthats right, they still charge the same I assume...15:59
bkerensaphilipballew: yes16:00
pleia2well, I'm not sure if they sell individual issues anymore, I think it's all subscription-based16:00
bkerensapleia2: I'm pretty sure Mark Irgang would send you guys swag if you asked16:01
bkerensa:D16:01
pleia2bkerensa: I don't know who that is16:01
bkerensahe has sent us boxes of shirts and stickers and pens16:01
bkerensahe is Asst Editor of Linux Journal16:01
pleia2ah16:01
bkerensaor some title like that16:01
bkerensa:D16:01
DarkwingOh yeah... and Linux Format.16:01
philipballewbkerensa, What do you all get free and review like that?16:02
DarkwingI guess the developers are tired of fielding the press. I'm the community guys so I guess this should be fun.16:02
bkerensaphilipballew: Review?16:03
bkerensanah16:03
philipballewDarkwing, Don't forget about us after you make it big16:03
bkerensathey just give it to us to give away16:03
Darkwingpffffft.16:03
philipballewhum, I see16:03
Darkwingmake it big ROFLMAO16:03
bkerensalike Ubuntu User is sending a crate of stuff to us :)16:03
philipballewI should do that16:03
DarkwingO'Reilly will send stuff too if requested.16:03
bkerensasend a crate to us?16:04
philipballewI did that with orilly a month ago16:04
Darkwingand CC will send stickers and buttons.16:04
bkerensaDarkwing: yep... Marsee Henon and Jon Johns are the people to talk to at O'Reilly16:04
bkerensafor swag anyways16:04
DarkwingI talked to Marsee... Got a couple cool T-shirts that I wear everywhere.16:04
Darkwingand a TON of bookmarks with discount codes.16:05
philipballewjon is a nice guy16:05
philipballewI want to get one of these for free http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=116:07
bkerensaDarkwing: yeah I have a pdf with their gift certificate and I can just print them on-demand and give people free ebooks :D16:07
bkerensaphilipballew: I am going to buy one when I get back :D .... jcastro and popey have some :D16:08
bkerensaI really need something though to sit where my router and cable modem is and just run 24/716:08
philipballewthats what I hear, I have friends who work for hp, maybe I can convince them to help a brother out...16:09
philipballewwhat do you think you need it for?16:09
bkerensaphilipballew: Storage, Application Testing, Packaging etc16:12
philipballewI have a pentium4 desktop doing that now16:12
philipballewit... gets by16:12
bkerensaYeah but I would run Xen on this16:12
bkerensaso it could have isolated environments for each task... one for packaging... another for storage and web stuff16:13
philipballewxen... Ive herd of that for setting up say vps and stuff16:13
bkerensayeah16:14
philipballewthat much different from kvm?16:14
bkerensaphilipballew: no idea... I have never used linux kvm16:14
bkerensaI have used KVM-Over-IP but thats a different thing16:15
svanzoestphilipballew: kvm and xen are both virtualization platform. I tend to use KVM myself these days.. it is also what eucalyptus uses under the hood.16:15
pleia2kvm requires hardware virtualization, and all things being equal it's currently faster with a vanilla kernel than xen (xen doesn't have all the key pieces it needs mainlined yet, so you need to compile your own kernel still for the best performance)16:16
svanzoestthrough libvirt16:16
bkerensathere is also openvz16:16
pleia2openvz is containerization16:16
bkerensapleia2: Linode uses xen and I hear the blow pretty much every other provider out of the water in terms of performance16:17
pleia2you need a heavily modified guest to run it, and it's really for different things than kvm and xen16:17
pleia2bkerensa: they have compiled their own kernels for years16:17
bkerensaah16:17
philipballewI have use kvm once or twice, and have always found it to work well16:17
pleia2xen wasn't even mainlined until 3.0, and linode has been around a bit longer than that :)16:18
pleia2we used xen a lot at work before we got hardware with virtualization since it was the only good option, but now with everything having virtualization we've switched to kvm16:19
svanzoestpleia2: same here16:19
Darkwingphilipballew: yeah, I'll be there. Flying in on Sunday, hanging out with my cousin and his wife for the day the, I'll be at the venue that evening.16:20
akkI've heard that xen will only run distros more than a year old.16:20
pleia2akk: maybe the other way around?16:21
philipballewDarkwing, should be fun. I really like Oakland.16:21
pleia2before 3.0 you needed to compile your own kernel for xen or use a distro that shipped one (Debian did, Ubuntu did not)16:21
akkFor the host OS, or the guest?16:21
akk(I was talking about the guest, not sure about the host)16:22
pleia2well I was referring to the host, but you did need it for both (ubuntu did ship a guest kernel)16:22
akkd might have been misinformed -- he was under the impression that you couldn't run Debian squeeze or Ubuntu past Lucid on xen.16:24
* pleia2 does it every day :)16:24
akkGood to hear. It did seem odd.16:24
akkYesterday pleia2 and bkerensa were talking about signing up for or subscribing to UDS sessions we were interested in17:46
akkbut I had to leave, and now when I go look at the schedule, I can't see anywhere to sign up or subscribe.17:47
bkerensaHi akk17:48
akkoh, maybe because I'm not logged in? but clicking "log in" takes me to an Internal Server Error page.17:48
bkerensaakk: You go to http://summit.ubuntu.com then click on schedule17:48
bkerensalogin17:48
bkerensaand find meetings you like and click "attend this meeting"17:48
bkerensaoh17:48
akkI guess I should just keep trying over the next few days, and maybe once the login gets fixed the rest will become clear?17:49
pleia2https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q is a better list17:49
pleia2just click on the blueprint name and click "subscribe"17:50
akkThanks.17:50
pleia2that won't be at all comprehensive until a few days before UDS17:50
pleia2so I usually wait until more are approved17:50
akkYep, that works (going from the springs page)17:51
akksprints17:51
pleia2the ubuntu women one isn't on there yet, but I sent it to the mailing list, you can click through the link there and subscribe so you're subscribed once it does hit the schedule17:52
akkThanks, will do that.17:52
bkerensapleia2: is there anyway to try and get a blueprint from a older cycle revived in Q?17:52
bkerensahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-screensaver17:53
pleia2bkerensa: talk to the creator of that blueprint and work with them to create https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-screensaver17:53
bkerensak17:53
bkerensa:D17:53
pleia2creator == drafter, so mpt for that one17:54
bkerensasorry didn't notice #ubuntu-meeting was CC didn't mean to disturb :P17:58
pleia2it's near impossible to find a time when I'm on IRC and my attention isn't split ;)18:10
bkerensapleia2: thanks to you and grant bowman for the 12.04 white sheet18:19
* bkerensa is printing copies to take to a lunch right now18:19
pleia2welcome :)18:20
dax"12.04 white sheet" => is there a PDF of that somewhere?18:51
pleia2dax: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/handouts/12.04BALUGHandout.pdf18:54
pleia2(linked on my blog)18:54
pleia2I put it together over the weekend based on release notes and things, grantbow and I use it at our BALUG presentation on tuesday18:55
daxta18:56
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Guest62552Hey people, I wish to know if is ok to create the ubuntu website of my conoutry, because the old page and the peopla who was managing the site and the comunity in my country they stop it.19:11
pleia2Guest62552: I think you want #ubuntu-locoteams19:13
pleia2folks there can answer your questions about your country's team :)19:13
Guest62552Thanks a lot dude :)19:13
pleia2I'm not a dude, but you're welcome :)19:13
Guest62552Ok im sorry lady :)  thanks19:14

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