[01:36] <bkerensa> Darkwing: you about?
[01:36] <Darkwing> bkerensa: aye
[01:36] <bkerensa> PM?
[02:34] <bkerensa> pleia2: do they ever sell CD's or swag at UDS that way I can avoid the expensive cost of overseas?
[02:54] <Darkwing> bkerensa: yes, they did at the last UDS
[03:21] <pleia2> bkerensa: they sell swag and give away CDs
[03:21] <pleia2> but buy early, they tend to run out of stuff :)
[03:21] <bkerensa> Nice
[03:22] <bkerensa> pleia2: Are things priced in Pounds or? :P
[03:22] <bkerensa> pleia2: and how much will the t-shirts for Q cost?
[03:23] <pleia2> bkerensa: all registered attendees get a UDS one, and you'll get a staff t-shirt too
[03:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: apparently I wont get the crew shirt because I volunteered to crew and was not actually assigned
[03:23] <bkerensa> :)
[03:24] <pleia2> ah
[03:24] <bkerensa> although they did have a slot unfilled which is why I volunteered
[03:24] <bkerensa> :P
[03:24] <pleia2> I didn't get one the first year because I came a day late and the crew lead took one
[03:24] <bkerensa> :D
[03:25] <bkerensa> well the sad thing is I will likely give my UDS shirt away since Canonical doesn't make 3X t-shirts
[03:25] <bkerensa> even though the UDS registration did have a tick for 3X I am kind of assuming that they wont have them
[03:26] <pleia2> I thought they had them last time, but I didn't pay that close attention
[03:26] <pleia2> (I'm still glad they have women's sizes at all!)
[03:26] <pleia2> even if they are the typical women's XL == men's medium type sizing
[03:26] <bkerensa> :D
[03:27] <bkerensa> I wish I could ask Cezzaine to bring all the Kubuntu pens left.... I would buy them all at UDS to avoid shipping costs
[03:27] <pleia2> why can't you ask?
[03:27] <bkerensa> pleia2: I'm probably going to :)
[03:27] <pleia2> :)
[03:28] <bkerensa> Im going to need to bring an extra suitcase for swag I buy and souvenirs from the trip
[03:28] <pleia2> hehe
[03:28] <bkerensa> pleia2: aside from CD's and a shirt is their any other swags :D
[03:28] <bkerensa> free*
[03:28] <pleia2> openstack sometimes comes with t-shirts
[03:28] <pleia2> and there are usually issues of Ubuntu User magazine,
[03:29] <pleia2> stickers (ubuntu ones, and last time thunderbird ones)
[03:29] <bkerensa> oh cool
[03:29] <pleia2> they just sort of appear on tables for the taking randomly throughout the week
[03:29] <bkerensa> Yeah Linux New Media is sending us a case of Ubuntu User and Linux Pro for our release party
[03:29] <pleia2> sometimes people will bring goofy ubuntu things they made, one year someone brought ubuntu guitar picks
[03:29] <bkerensa> I hope not so many this time because I had like 300 extra issues for months
[03:30] <pleia2> hah, wow
[03:30] <bkerensa> :(
[03:30] <bkerensa> yeah they dumped their extras I think
[03:30] <pleia2> I still have User magazines from SCALE :\
[03:30] <bkerensa> pleia2: so at UDS is it common for their to be informal dinners or outings?
[03:31] <pleia2> yeah, in the evenings
[03:31] <bkerensa> nice
[03:31] <bkerensa> :D
[03:31] <bkerensa> I hope MarkDude pops in to UDS.... he has been pretty gone lately
[03:31] <pleia2> so usually there is some kind of monday and tuesday nights sponsored cocktails, beer and hors d'oeuvres (which may be enough for dinner, usually is for me)
[03:31] <pleia2> that wraps up by 10, people go on adventures
[03:32] <bkerensa> nice
[03:32] <bkerensa> adventures = bars
[03:32] <bkerensa> :D
[03:32] <pleia2> wednesday night tends to be pretty free (LoCo teams do stuff for attendees)
[03:32] <pleia2> and thursday is traditionally "team dinner" night for Canonical folks, so Community folks follow (we do our Ubuntu Women dinner then)
[03:32] <pleia2> and Friday is big wrap up party :)
[03:34] <bkerensa> pleia2: so on Thursday thats open to folks involved in Comm too?
[03:34] <bkerensa> or just like Canonical Community Team + Councils
[03:34] <pleia2> bkerensa: they are all independently planned outings, usually I only figure out about them because I ask my buddy from the OEM team and he says "sorry, team dinner thursday" and then I ask someone from kernel and she says "sorry, team dinner Thursday" and I say "hey, wait a second!"
[03:35] <bkerensa> lol
[03:35] <bkerensa> :D
[03:35] <pleia2> then "I guess I need to figure out what to do tonight!" :)
[03:35] <bkerensa> well any night I cant find some place to tag along I will be here http://www.yelp.com/biz/taqueria-canc%C3%BAn-san-francisco-5
[03:35] <bkerensa> my favorite restaurant in SF
[03:36] <pleia2> wednesday might be a good night for that, we pop over there after noisebridge linux night sometimes
[03:36] <pleia2> which is wednesday night
[03:38] <pleia2> but wednesday night is also tourism, photograph, debian dinner...
[03:38]  * pleia2 cloneself
[03:38] <bkerensa> :D
[03:39]  * bkerensa buzzes off for food
[04:19] <philipballew_> Darkwing, gettin famous in the Ubuntu blogs!
[05:22] <bkerensa> ^
[13:28] <Darkwing> philipballew: heh... it's about to get worse.
[15:39] <philipballew> Darkwing, are you going to UDS?
[15:43] <bkerensa> Darkwing: PM
[15:43] <bkerensa> ?
[15:50] <Darkwing> Yes
[15:50] <Darkwing> and yes
[15:54] <philipballew> nice!
[15:56] <Darkwing> Weee, looks like Linux Journal is wanting to setup an interview heh
[15:58]  * philipballew might actually buy an issue now
[15:59] <pleia2> they're digital these days
[15:59] <philipballew> thats right, they still charge the same I assume...
[16:00] <bkerensa> philipballew: yes
[16:00] <pleia2> well, I'm not sure if they sell individual issues anymore, I think it's all subscription-based
[16:01] <bkerensa> pleia2: I'm pretty sure Mark Irgang would send you guys swag if you asked
[16:01] <bkerensa> :D
[16:01] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't know who that is
[16:01] <bkerensa> he has sent us boxes of shirts and stickers and pens
[16:01] <bkerensa> he is Asst Editor of Linux Journal
[16:01] <pleia2> ah
[16:01] <bkerensa> or some title like that
[16:01] <bkerensa> :D
[16:01] <Darkwing> Oh yeah... and Linux Format.
[16:02] <philipballew> bkerensa, What do you all get free and review like that?
[16:02] <Darkwing> I guess the developers are tired of fielding the press. I'm the community guys so I guess this should be fun.
[16:03] <bkerensa> philipballew: Review?
[16:03] <bkerensa> nah
[16:03] <philipballew> Darkwing, Don't forget about us after you make it big
[16:03] <bkerensa> they just give it to us to give away
[16:03] <Darkwing> pffffft.
[16:03] <philipballew> hum, I see
[16:03] <Darkwing> make it big ROFLMAO
[16:03] <bkerensa> like Ubuntu User is sending a crate of stuff to us :)
[16:03] <philipballew> I should do that
[16:03] <Darkwing> O'Reilly will send stuff too if requested.
[16:04] <bkerensa> send a crate to us?
[16:04] <philipballew> I did that with orilly a month ago
[16:04] <Darkwing> and CC will send stickers and buttons.
[16:04] <bkerensa> Darkwing: yep... Marsee Henon and Jon Johns are the people to talk to at O'Reilly
[16:04] <bkerensa> for swag anyways
[16:04] <Darkwing> I talked to Marsee... Got a couple cool T-shirts that I wear everywhere.
[16:05] <Darkwing> and a TON of bookmarks with discount codes.
[16:05] <philipballew> jon is a nice guy
[16:07] <philipballew> I want to get one of these for free http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1
[16:07] <bkerensa> Darkwing: yeah I have a pdf with their gift certificate and I can just print them on-demand and give people free ebooks :D
[16:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: I am going to buy one when I get back :D .... jcastro and popey have some :D
[16:08] <bkerensa> I really need something though to sit where my router and cable modem is and just run 24/7
[16:09] <philipballew> thats what I hear, I have friends who work for hp, maybe I can convince them to help a brother out...
[16:09] <philipballew> what do you think you need it for?
[16:12] <bkerensa> philipballew: Storage, Application Testing, Packaging etc
[16:12] <philipballew> I have a pentium4 desktop doing that now
[16:12] <philipballew> it... gets by
[16:12] <bkerensa> Yeah but I would run Xen on this
[16:13] <bkerensa> so it could have isolated environments for each task... one for packaging... another for storage and web stuff
[16:13] <philipballew> xen... Ive herd of that for setting up say vps and stuff
[16:14] <bkerensa> yeah
[16:14] <philipballew> that much different from kvm?
[16:14] <bkerensa> philipballew: no idea... I have never used linux kvm
[16:15] <bkerensa> I have used KVM-Over-IP but thats a different thing
[16:15] <svanzoest> philipballew: kvm and xen are both virtualization platform. I tend to use KVM myself these days.. it is also what eucalyptus uses under the hood.
[16:16] <pleia2> kvm requires hardware virtualization, and all things being equal it's currently faster with a vanilla kernel than xen (xen doesn't have all the key pieces it needs mainlined yet, so you need to compile your own kernel still for the best performance)
[16:16] <svanzoest> through libvirt
[16:16] <bkerensa> there is also openvz
[16:16] <pleia2> openvz is containerization
[16:17] <bkerensa> pleia2: Linode uses xen and I hear the blow pretty much every other provider out of the water in terms of performance
[16:17] <pleia2> you need a heavily modified guest to run it, and it's really for different things than kvm and xen
[16:17] <pleia2> bkerensa: they have compiled their own kernels for years
[16:17] <bkerensa> ah
[16:17] <philipballew> I have use kvm once or twice, and have always found it to work well
[16:18] <pleia2> xen wasn't even mainlined until 3.0, and linode has been around a bit longer than that :)
[16:19] <pleia2> we used xen a lot at work before we got hardware with virtualization since it was the only good option, but now with everything having virtualization we've switched to kvm
[16:19] <svanzoest> pleia2: same here
[16:20] <Darkwing> philipballew: yeah, I'll be there. Flying in on Sunday, hanging out with my cousin and his wife for the day the, I'll be at the venue that evening.
[16:20] <akk> I've heard that xen will only run distros more than a year old.
[16:21] <pleia2> akk: maybe the other way around?
[16:21] <philipballew> Darkwing, should be fun. I really like Oakland.
[16:21] <pleia2> before 3.0 you needed to compile your own kernel for xen or use a distro that shipped one (Debian did, Ubuntu did not)
[16:21] <akk> For the host OS, or the guest?
[16:22] <akk> (I was talking about the guest, not sure about the host)
[16:22] <pleia2> well I was referring to the host, but you did need it for both (ubuntu did ship a guest kernel)
[16:24] <akk> d might have been misinformed -- he was under the impression that you couldn't run Debian squeeze or Ubuntu past Lucid on xen.
[16:24]  * pleia2 does it every day :)
[16:24] <akk> Good to hear. It did seem odd.
[17:46] <akk> Yesterday pleia2 and bkerensa were talking about signing up for or subscribing to UDS sessions we were interested in
[17:47] <akk> but I had to leave, and now when I go look at the schedule, I can't see anywhere to sign up or subscribe.
[17:48] <bkerensa> Hi akk
[17:48] <akk> oh, maybe because I'm not logged in? but clicking "log in" takes me to an Internal Server Error page.
[17:48] <bkerensa> akk: You go to http://summit.ubuntu.com then click on schedule
[17:48] <bkerensa> login
[17:48] <bkerensa> and find meetings you like and click "attend this meeting"
[17:48] <bkerensa> oh
[17:49] <akk> I guess I should just keep trying over the next few days, and maybe once the login gets fixed the rest will become clear?
[17:49] <pleia2> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q is a better list
[17:50] <pleia2> just click on the blueprint name and click "subscribe"
[17:50] <akk> Thanks.
[17:50] <pleia2> that won't be at all comprehensive until a few days before UDS
[17:50] <pleia2> so I usually wait until more are approved
[17:51] <akk> Yep, that works (going from the springs page)
[17:51] <akk> sprints
[17:52] <pleia2> the ubuntu women one isn't on there yet, but I sent it to the mailing list, you can click through the link there and subscribe so you're subscribed once it does hit the schedule
[17:52] <akk> Thanks, will do that.
[17:52] <bkerensa> pleia2: is there anyway to try and get a blueprint from a older cycle revived in Q?
[17:53] <bkerensa> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-screensaver
[17:53] <pleia2> bkerensa: talk to the creator of that blueprint and work with them to create https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-screensaver
[17:53] <bkerensa> k
[17:53] <bkerensa> :D
[17:54] <pleia2> creator == drafter, so mpt for that one
[17:58] <bkerensa> sorry didn't notice #ubuntu-meeting was CC didn't mean to disturb :P
[18:10] <pleia2> it's near impossible to find a time when I'm on IRC and my attention isn't split ;)
[18:19] <bkerensa> pleia2: thanks to you and grant bowman for the 12.04 white sheet
[18:19]  * bkerensa is printing copies to take to a lunch right now
[18:20] <pleia2> welcome :)
[18:51] <dax> "12.04 white sheet" => is there a PDF of that somewhere?
[18:54] <pleia2> dax: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/handouts/12.04BALUGHandout.pdf
[18:54] <pleia2> (linked on my blog)
[18:55] <pleia2> I put it together over the weekend based on release notes and things, grantbow and I use it at our BALUG presentation on tuesday
[18:56] <dax> ta
[19:11] <Guest62552> Hey people, I wish to know if is ok to create the ubuntu website of my conoutry, because the old page and the peopla who was managing the site and the comunity in my country they stop it.
[19:13] <pleia2> Guest62552: I think you want #ubuntu-locoteams
[19:13] <pleia2> folks there can answer your questions about your country's team :)
[19:13] <Guest62552> Thanks a lot dude :)
[19:13] <pleia2> I'm not a dude, but you're welcome :)
[19:14] <Guest62552> Ok im sorry lady :)  thanks