[12:16] <rick_h> morning
[12:23] <brousch> is it?
[12:30] <rick_h> rumor has it
[12:57] <jrwren> yay morning
[13:03] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:18] <snap-l> http://silktide.com/cookielaw
[13:27] <rick_h> http://design.canonical.com/2012/04/pebble-watch-and-ubuntu/ kind of cool
[13:39] <jrwren> https://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pyguide.html
[13:39] <jrwren> google's python style guid
[13:41] <jrwren> i'd rather have a mechanical watch :)
[13:43] <snap-l> That watch is pretty interesting
[13:43] <snap-l> Though I fear it'll be more than I'm willing to spend for a watch I will likely wear infrequently.
[13:44] <rick_h> I'd like a mechanical watch for sure, but ouch $$
[13:44] <rick_h> this is cool though, I love the idea of a watch talking to the phone, app potential is kind of neat
[13:44] <rick_h> things like getting my google voice texts on teh wrist and such is cool and notifications is neat if it vibrates as sometimes I don't notice the phone vibrating in my pocket
[13:45] <rick_h> was my first kickstarter I did heh
[13:45] <snap-l> rick_h: This watch?
[13:46] <jjesse> i am supporting the pebble
[13:46] <jjesse> my 1st kickstarter as well
[13:46] <jrwren> timex is cheap :)
[13:48] <snap-l> Now, if it never had to be set, and was accurate, I'd pony up. :)
[13:48] <rick_h> snap-l: yea
[13:48] <snap-l> Yeah, as in it is, or yeah, as in that would be nice?
[13:49] <rick_h> yea, I did the kickstarter for the watch and yea it was my first kickstarter thing I'd done
[13:57] <rick_h> man, I love my wife but this was a great conversation.
[13:58] <jrwren> well, its bluetooth, as long as it is connected it will get ntp time from the device to which it is connected.
[13:58] <rick_h> "I ordered my contacts" oh, how much did they end up being? "I don't know" so these were those new daily things right? "Yea" did you ask her for a ballpark on the pricing? "umm, no...she didn't have it handy"
[13:59] <jrwren> ONE BAZILLION DOLLARS!
[13:59] <rick_h> no kidding lol
[13:59] <jrwren> like you have never done that? just went and got something you really wanted without caring about price
[13:59] <rick_h> but I had to at least know it
[13:59] <snap-l> "But she did ask for our check routing numbers, and my mother's maiden name"
[14:00] <rick_h> "her eye equipment was all cool and low tech...just shined a flashlight in my eye"
[14:00] <snap-l> "The waiting room was pretty interesting. It was all done up in cardboard and magic marker"
[14:01] <rick_h> "very eco friendly"
[14:01] <jrwren> lol
[14:01] <snap-l> "BANANA PHONE!"
[14:02] <jrwren> snap-l: do you scrobble with your LMS ?
[14:03] <jrwren> oh no way... they aren't using libc to do dns?
[14:03] <jrwren> imma lmao
[14:05] <snap-l> jrwren: No, I deleted my last.fm account
[14:06] <snap-l> Once they started making everything pro account, I lost interest in giving CBS all of my listening habits.
[14:11] <jrwren> snap-l: ever look at the LMS source? it looks like it does its own DNS, but at the same time it looks like it just calls gethostbyname (like it should).
[14:17] <jrwren> rick_h: what was that python impl of some cmopiler you linked recnetly? was it SASS?
[14:17] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, pyscss is what I'm using for sass compiling
[14:18] <jrwren> cool, ty.
[14:36] <brousch> i couldn't get it to work, so i'm using the ruby version for now
[14:38] <rick_h> brousch: no?
[14:38] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/Makefile#L251 is what I'm using to build it
[14:39] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/Makefile#L294 and for a watcher while I develop
[14:41] <brousch> i just needd a watcher
[14:42] <brousch> i'll try it again
[14:45] <brousch> i think it's working now. i needed to use python2.7 and install the watchdog module
[14:45] <rick_h> ah ok
[14:50] <brousch> hm, i get a no logging handlers found each time it runs
[14:51] <rick_h> yea, I get that as well
[14:51] <rick_h> I need to peek at it
[14:51] <brousch> ok, i didn't see a way around it so i thought i'd ask the master
[14:52] <rick_h> yea, basically logging isn't setup right
[15:37] <rick_h> greg-g: ok what's this knoxville stuff?
[15:51] <jrwren> <3 watchdog.
[15:51] <jrwren> i just found watchdog last night, did you know ruby has no gem that is equiv.
[15:52] <jrwren> and so they have 2 gems for every thing that might use watchdog, e.g. autotest - tehre is autotest-inotify and autotest-wahteverOSXuses
[15:52] <jrwren> so sad :(
[15:52] <jrwren> oh, and no ruby lib for the win32 watchdog api.
[15:52] <jrwren> python watchdog ftw
[15:54] <rick_h> I thought they had some inotify stuff though
[15:54] <rick_h> https://rubygems.org/gems/rb-inotify
[15:58] <brousch> pyscss is not compiling the same as sass
[16:00] <brousch> not palying nicely with semantic.gs
[16:00] <brousch> oh well
[16:01] <rick_h> sucky, file a bug I guess
[16:01] <rick_h> I know it listed a couple of things it didn't support
[16:02] <brousch> imports i think
[16:02] <rick_h> I use imports
[16:02] <brousch> also throws it all on 1 line
[16:02] <rick_h> just have to make sure the -I dir is there
[16:03] <rick_h> yea, I htink that's the minification bits
[16:07] <brousch> ah, it is making my semantic.gs stuff a fixed grid instead of fluid
[16:09] <brousch> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/625/
[16:09] <brousch> turning the %s into fixed pixels
[16:09] <jrwren> yeah, autotest-inotify uses rb-inotify, but there is no uniform api like watchdog :)
[16:09] <rick_h> jrwren: ah, not looked at watchdog much
[16:09] <rick_h> so just figured it was a inotify wrapper
[16:11] <jrwren> it is.
[16:12] <jrwren> but it is also a whatever bsd has, wahtever osx has, and whatever windows has wrapper
[16:12] <jrwren> all into a single API.
[16:12] <jrwren> which makes it excellent.
[16:12] <rick_h> ah, gotcha
[17:41] <jrwren> poll: black bg terminal or white bg terminal or other and why?
[17:42] <brousch> terminal is for dweebs. real men use Eclipse
[17:43] <rick_h> black, can't stand the white, too much light in my face
[17:43] <rick_h> especially at night darkened office
[17:43] <krondor> black bg.  My work environment is overly lit as it is.
[17:43] <rick_h> plus I prefer the color pallette you're required to use overall
[17:44] <jrwren> brousch: if i ever find a nice shell plugin for vim, I must just use it :p
[17:44] <rick_h> conque I think?
[17:44] <rick_h> is supposed to do it ok, but you're basically making vim a tiling WM at that point
[17:44] <rick_h> just tile WM and get over it
[17:45] <jrwren> i moved to white bg in vim and I like it a lot, I'm thinking about moving to white bg in terminal.
[17:45] <jrwren> rick_h: good point, i'm on OSX, and I actually like iTerm here :)
[17:45] <krondor> "But we are hackers and hackers have black terminals with green fonts!" -- John Nunemaker
[17:45] <jrwren> who the fuck is john nunemaker ?
[17:46] <krondor> rails guy I think
[17:46] <rick_h> jrwren: cool, I know some people like it
[17:46] <rick_h> I tried it very briefly a bit back and just didn't care for it
[17:48] <krondor> ooh the HP Cloud Beta is 20 GB / ram and 2 TB of data?  That's a nice sized playground even if it is only temp.
[17:48] <rick_h> yea
[17:48] <rick_h> lots of folks using it happy with performance in the testing phase
[17:49] <krondor> activated mine today, hope to get some time this weekend logged
[18:16] <jrwren> gonna be hard to get a nice irssi color scheme for a light bg terminal
[18:18] <rick_h> heh
[18:19] <_stink_> yeah, black bg here too.
[18:54] <ColonelPanic001> light background terminal?
[18:54] <ColonelPanic001> you monster
[18:55] <brousch> hm. no animated gifs in my upcoming presentation. this cannot stand!
[18:57] <rick_h> heh, I call progress
[18:57] <brousch> maybe i'll go with lolcats this time
[22:36] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFGrWjOX0E#!
[22:38] <snap-l> Click on that video, or lead a poorer life for it.
[23:15] <rick_h> rush, aren't they dead?
[23:15] <rick_h> :P
[23:16] <snap-l> You wish you were that cool