[07:24] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:28] <plustwo> hi Kilos & others
[07:28] <Kilos> hi plustwo 
[07:28] <plustwo> o/
[07:28] <Squirm> morning
[07:28] <Kilos> you well?
[07:29] <Kilos> yo Squirm 
[07:29] <plustwo> Kilos: yep, never been this better. :)
[07:29] <plustwo> how are you doing?
[07:29] <Kilos> hehe that sounds good
[07:30] <Kilos> ok ty 
[07:30] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:32] <Kilos> can one of you please look here and find me the email addy
[07:32] <Kilos> http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/default.aspx
[07:34] <Kilos> i dont have data to browse
[07:35] <superfly> Kilos: no e-mail address on there
[07:35] <superfly> Kilos: you can try "customercare@tshwane.gov.za"
[07:36] <Kilos> eish ty superfly . power cutting here daily up to 5 times a day
[07:36] <Kilos> great ty superfly i will mail them and see if i can rock the boat a bit
[07:37] <Kilos> that sounds like the one they just keep passing the buck till it gets to someone that has the energy to do something
[07:56] <Kilos> bbl have a good day guys
[09:27] <AlphaGuyy> Mornin
[10:42] <zeref> YawwnN
[10:45] <AlphaGuyy> Zzzzz
[11:58] <Squirm> hello
[11:58]  * Squirm prods nuvolari 
[12:25] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos it seems to be happening in my area as well lately, so you're not the only one
[12:25] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[14:24] <zeref> hmmmmm
[14:28] <inetpro> zeref: hmmmmm?
[15:25] <Alphaguyy> ubuntu-za dead dead
[15:26]  * nlsthzn lurks in the shadows
[15:27]  * Alphaguyy aims his Pistol
[15:27] <nlsthzn> :(
[15:28] <Alphaguyy> come out
[15:28] <nlsthzn> ... while you aim at me!?
[15:28] <Alphaguyy> so we can see you
[15:30] <Alphaguyy> it's quiet here compared to #ubuntu
[15:30] <nlsthzn> it's nice
[15:31] <Alphaguyy> it's very laid back
[15:31] <Alphaguyy> typical Za
[15:33] <nlsthzn> it can get hectic in here...
[15:34] <Alphaguyy> yeah i guess so
[15:35]  * Alphaguyy fires some shots
[16:03] <superfly> Some of us have work to do during business hours...
[16:19] <Kerbero> anybody experiencing problems with za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:19] <Kerbero> seems like it is pointing to the wrong IP
[16:22] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn and others
[16:23] <Alphaguyy> hi
[16:24] <Kilos> hi Alphaguyy howzit
[16:24] <Alphaguyy> good u
[16:24] <Kilos> good too ty
[16:24] <Alphaguyy> :)
[16:25] <Kilos> so you going to the varsity to get cds burned?
[16:25] <Alphaguyy> wich one exactly
[16:26] <Kilos> hmm
[16:26] <Kilos> i think all of them
[16:26] <Kilos> if not for the data use we could google them
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> limited to irc
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> il get it when its released
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> 12.04
[16:27] <Kilos> ya me to and some pidgin time
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> fly like a pidgin cluck like a chikn
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <nlsthzn> hi superfly , Kilos etc...
[16:28] <Kilos> dont you know pidgin?
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> i dont know how im connected tho 
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> im using pidgin on 9.04
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> connect via n73 usb n 45cents
[16:29] <Kilos> i use xchat
[16:29] <Kilos> whats a n73?
[16:29] <Alphaguyy> 9.04 comes in handy for pc.s that dont wana boot up
[16:29] <Alphaguyy> nokian mobile phone
[16:30] <Kilos> ha ha ha yeah i fix all boot probs with ubntu
[16:30] <Alphaguyy> watch hw i time out
[16:30] <Kilos> ah
[16:30] <Kilos> my son also uses boot-repair in ubuntu to fix drives at his work
[16:31] <Alphaguyy> boot repair?
[16:31] <Kilos> its a tool in ubuntu
[16:31] <Kilos> boot-repair
[16:32] <Alphaguyy> hmm
[16:32] <Alphaguyy> does it repair windows boot
[16:33] <Kilos> it does mbr and boot sector
[16:33] <Kilos> but there are ways with windows to repair mbr and boot sector from the cd as well
[16:33] <Alphaguyy> hmm
[16:34] <Kilos> with xp you boot to command prompt
[16:34] <Alphaguyy> this guys pc has a virus i suspect coz once i log in loads settings and then nothing
[16:35] <Kilos> then type in /fixmbr then /fixboot
[16:35] <Alphaguyy> i usn live cd to browse the drive only for backup so i can do fresh install
[16:35] <Kilos> they can be repaired normally
[16:36] <Kilos> and run avast antivirus
[16:36] <Kilos> half of what i hated with windows was all the formatting and new installs needed
[16:37] <Kilos> only use ubuntu now
[16:37] <Alphaguyy> yeah i know
[16:38] <Alphaguyy> windows faults brings the dollars
[16:38] <Kilos> yeah
[16:39] <nlsthzn> looking at how much money red hat makes linux faults can do the same
[16:40] <Alphaguyy> im off for now
[16:40] <Alphaguyy> thanx kilos
[16:40] <Kilos> cheers Alphaguyy 
[16:45] <Kilos> all good there nlsthzn 
[16:45] <Kilos> ?
[16:46] <nlsthzn> aan hoy bek hou uncle Kilos 
[16:46] <nlsthzn> *hou
[16:46] <Kilos> lol
[16:46] <nlsthzn> ... and there in Za land?
[16:46] <Kilos> dont forget moed hou
[16:46] <Kilos> getting cold again
[16:46] <Kilos> sdigh
[16:46] <Kilos> sigh too
[16:46] <nlsthzn> getting hot here :'(
[16:47] <Kilos> wanna swop
[16:47] <Kilos> hehe
[16:48] <nlsthzn> :) to be honest, if I have to be outside a lot in the coming months I would 
[16:48] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[16:51] <Kilos> bbl
[18:03] <nicom> hi
[18:12] <nlsthzn> hi
[18:28] <Kilos> lo superfly and others
[18:28] <Kilos> hi nicom 
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro, dis sleg van hulle ne
[18:29] <nicom> hi kilos
[18:30] <Kilos> nlsthzn, why you up so late?
[18:30] <nlsthzn> two guess uncle Kilos 
[18:30] <nlsthzn> *guesses
[18:30] <Kilos> work?
[18:30] <nlsthzn> correct
[18:31] <nlsthzn> night shift
[18:31] <Kilos> eish
[18:31] <nicom> I cant get in from xchat it bannes me every time
[18:31] <Kilos> spose if you dont work you dont eat hey
[18:31] <nicom> is there a secret to that?
[18:31] <Kilos> nicom, what seems to be the prob
[18:32] <Kilos> you have to set it up
[18:32] <nicom> i am on web page 
[18:32] <nicom> xchat no work
[18:32] <Kilos> do you have xchat installed nicom ?
[18:32] <nicom> how
[18:32] <nicom> yes
[18:32] <Kilos> you are on ubuntu hey?
[18:32] <nicom> yes 12:04
[18:33] <Kilos> ok lets do it step for step
[18:33] <Kilos> i gotta open and look what to do
[18:33] <Banlam> nicom, what is the exact message you get when you try connect?
[18:33] <Kilos> ok. the first little window you open
[18:33] <nicom> 1 min
[18:34] <nicom> * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned )
[18:34] <nicom> ok
[18:34] <Banlam> and that's when you try connect to the server
[18:34] <Kilos> scroll to freenode
[18:34] <Banlam> not to achannel?
[18:34] <Kilos> yip
[18:35] <Kilos> tick on freenode and then tick edit on the right
[18:35] <nicom> * Connected. Now logging in... * *** Looking up your hostname... * *** Checking Ident * *** Found your hostname * *** No Ident response * You are banned from this server- Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080)).  Email proxyscan@freenode.net when corrected. (2012/4/19 19.52) * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned ) * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[18:36] <Kilos> oh im running ahead sorry
[18:36] <nicom> it starts automatically
[18:36] <nicom> freenode is selected
[18:36] <Kilos> you gotta make it open to that first window first
[18:36] <nlsthzn> seems like a banned account
[18:37] <Banlam> is this relavent: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14845/unable-to-connect-to-freenode-because-of-open-proxy
[18:37] <Kilos> it mustnt start auto till you have it set up
[18:37] <Kilos> ah could be Banlam 
[18:38] <nicom> how do I unstart it
[18:39] <Kilos> most likely need to tell it to go irc.freenode.net/8001
[18:39] <nicom> ok what password do you use?
[18:39] <Kilos> you need to uninstall and also remove the settings etc in home
[18:40] <nicom> I got it to not start automatically
[18:40] <Kilos> you register your nic and set password at irc
[18:40] <Kilos> right
[18:40] <nicom> now edit it
[18:40] <Kilos> then tick freenode once
[18:40] <Kilos> then edit
[18:41] <Kilos> you too fast for me
[18:41] <nicom> how register
[18:41] <nicom> how register ? url ?
[18:41] <Banlam> you have to be connected to the server
[18:41] <Banlam> via an irc client
[18:41] <Banlam> to register an account
[18:41] <Banlam> but that's not necessary
[18:41] <Banlam> did you have a look at that link I jsut posted?
[18:42] <Banlam> that may be your problem
[18:42] <Kilos> but you should get here with xchat before you even register
[18:42] <nicom> connecting to freenode banns me
[18:43] <Kilos> Banlam, is it a 12.04 prob you think?
[18:43] <Banlam> err.. couldn't say
[18:43] <nicom> connecting to freenode baned me
[18:43] <Banlam> the post is from nov 2010...
[18:43] <Banlam> so
[18:43] <Kilos> dont just connect
[18:44] <nicom> looking
[18:44] <Kilos> what have you got in the channel box
[18:44] <nicom> I am using miktotik
[18:44] <nicom> I am using miktotik router
[18:44] <Kilos> and untick the connect automatically tick box
[18:44] <Kerbero> *mikrotik?\
[18:44] <Banlam> nicom, what client are you currently using?
[18:44] <nicom> done
[18:45] <Banlam> nicom, can you open a terminal, and type the following "  rpm -q squid   " and tell me what output you get?
[18:46] <nicom> xchat
[18:47] <Banlam> nicom, no, what i mean is how are you chatting to us now, if you can't get xchat to connect to freenode?
[18:47] <Kilos> in the top block do you see irc.freenode.net/8001
[18:47] <nicom> The program 'rpm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install rpm
[18:47] <Banlam> nicom, ok, nvrmdn
[18:48] <nicom> i am using the web page form
[18:48] <Banlam> nicom, ok
[18:48] <nicom> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za
[18:49] <Banlam> gtg, good luck, hope Kilos can help
[18:49] <Kilos> toods Banlam 
[18:49] <Kilos> ok nicom you got the first window open still/
[18:49] <Kilos> ?
[18:49] <nicom> did you need something special to work IRC?
[18:50] <nicom> did you need something special to work IRC? settings , password
[18:50] <Kilos> no xchat goes straight in if setup right
[18:50] <Kilos> nope i came on here before i registered anything
[18:50] <nicom> ok I may need to open port 8081
[18:50] <nicom> ok I may need to open port 8081 in mikrotik
[18:50] <Kilos> you can add the passwords later once you got this working
[18:51] <nicom> but how did it respond to me?
[18:52] <Kilos> i dunno what went wrong there. need a clever guy to figure that out
[18:52] <nlsthzn> my two cents worth... it isn't a ports issue because the client is able to connect to the server... the error account banned needs some investigating and fixing... carry on...
[18:52] <nicom> ok i will uninstall it and try again
[18:52] <Kilos> dont forget to remove any xchat files in home
[18:52] <Kilos> or it will keep doing the same thing
[18:53] <Kilos> nlsthzn, im dom with the ports bit. do we use different ports?
[18:53] <Kilos> mine shows 8001
[18:54] <nlsthzn> it isn't a ports issue but I use 6667
[18:54] <Kilos> oh my
[18:55] <Kilos> nicom, what else do you see in the top servers for freenode block?
[18:56] <Kilos> nlsthzn, what decides what port is used
[18:56] <Kilos> for interests sake
[18:57] <nlsthzn> well for me port 8001 isn't open (ISP blocked it I think)... but the IRC server decides what ports it will use... for freenode it is 8001 and 6667 AFAIK
[18:57] <Kilos> it should be done automatically hey?
[18:57] <nicom> I uninstalled it and its still there
[18:58] <nlsthzn> did you guys check the link that Banlam_ posted earlier?
[18:58] <nicom> I get the option to install but its there
[18:58] <Kilos> nicom, did you remove the xchat folder in home?
[18:58] <Kilos> nicom, do you have aptitude installed?
[18:58] <nicom> now its removing
[19:00] <nicom> aptitude ?
[19:00] <Kilos> like apt-get but better
[19:00] <nlsthzn> not
[19:00] <nicom> dont know doe ubuntu come with it
[19:00] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:01] <nicom> ok
[19:01] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:01] <nicom> is it needed?
[19:01] <Kilos> it works great for installing and uninstalling etc
[19:02] <Kilos> and more user friendly
[19:02] <nicom> I ma gettint the same problem
[19:03] <nicom> I re-installed
[19:03] <nicom> should i try xchant gnome
[19:03] <Kilos> have you got aptitude now
[19:03] <Kilos> the gnome one sucks imo
[19:04] <Kilos> you havent got rif of the config files i think
[19:04] <Kilos> *rid
[19:04] <nicom> adding it
[19:04] <nlsthzn> problem is with using open proxy and freenode not accepting it... nothing wrong with xchat
[19:04] <Kilos> ah can you help nlsthzn ?
[19:04] <nicom> is apttude a gui?
[19:05] <Kilos> no its command line/terminal
[19:05] <nicom>  nlsrn?
[19:06] <nlsthzn> nicom: are you running any type of proxy software?
[19:06] <nicom> I like GUI as my memory is weak too many commands to remember
[19:07] <nicom> no I have a mikrotik router connected to my  iBurst via PPPOE
[19:07] <Kilos> yeah but at times cli works better methinks
[19:08] <nlsthzn> it seems the problem is with the router....
[19:08] <nicom> cli ?
[19:08] <Kilos> command line interface
[19:08] <Kilos> terminal
[19:08] <nicom> ok I will google it
[19:09] <Kilos> nicom, one sec first
[19:09] <Kilos> when you removed xchat did you remove the folder in home before installing again
[19:09] <nlsthzn> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Misc/Q_27500503.html seems to have the answer but I am not subscribed there so it won't show it to me :/
[19:10] <nlsthzn> ... however seeing as you all seem hell bent on re-installing a working client I will leave you to it ;)
[19:10] <nicom> no
[19:10] <nicom> whick folder
[19:10] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you help i know niks about routers
[19:10] <Kilos> in your home directory
[19:11] <Kilos> scroll down you will see something with xchat
[19:11] <Kilos> maybe 2xchat
[19:11] <Kilos> i go see
[19:11] <nlsthzn> Kilos: I don't either in this case... but that is where the issue is
[19:12] <nlsthzn> might want to try #freenode
[19:12] <Kilos> .xchat2 its called
[19:12] <Kilos> xchat doesnt often give issues
[19:13] <Kilos> nlsthzn, is 12.04 same as maverick when it comes to home?
[19:14] <nlsthzn> yup
[19:14] <Kilos> whew
[19:14] <nlsthzn> still gnome... even if it is a new one
[19:14] <Kilos> was worried there for a bit
[19:14] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <nicom> I will ask my coleague quintin beukes he kknows ubuntu and mikrotik I might fotgut somthin
[19:15] <nicom> thanks all for help
[19:15] <Kilos> nicom, lets work through it slowly
[19:16] <nicom> I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoris
[19:16] <nicom> I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoria
[19:16] <nicom> ok kilos
[19:17] <Kilos> have you found the folder in home
[19:17] <nicom> looking
[19:17] <nicom> oh in home
[19:17] <Kilos> yeah
[19:18] <Kerbero> nicom: do you have winbox?
[19:18] <Kilos> some times you have to tell it to show hidden folders
[19:18] <inetpro> nicom: Your host is an open proxy 
[19:18] <inetpro> that is the problem
[19:18] <Kilos> hi inetpro you are just in time
[19:18] <inetpro> looks to me like a microtik misconfiguration
[19:19] <Kerbero> the webproxy on the mikrotik is just running
[19:19] <Kerbero> and not denying external ip's
[19:19] <nicom> sudo rm .chat2
[19:19] <inetpro> s/microtik/mikrotik/
[19:19] <nicom> ? ok to
[19:20] <Kilos> sec nicom here what inetpro and Kerbero say
[19:20] <Kilos> inetpro, can you help him sort it
[19:20] <Kilos> ?
[19:20] <nicom> I seem to remembet I had to open port 8080
[19:20] <nicom> maybe i need 8001
[19:21] <Kerbero> no
[19:21] <nicom> I worked irc before with older ubunu
[19:21] <inetpro> Make sure that your proxy is NOT a Open Proxy
[19:21] <Kerbero> there is absolutely no reason to open ports for outgoing connections
[19:21] <Kerbero> nicom: Winbox
[19:22] <inetpro> eg: Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080))
[19:22] <inetpro> oops 
[19:22] <inetpro> eg: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/How_to_Block_Websites_%26_Stop_Downloading_Using_Proxy
[19:22] <nicom> I dont set proxy server I have raw internet via firewl in mikrotik
[19:22] <Kerbero> ai
[19:22] <inetpro> I don't know Mikrotik stuff so can't realy help
[19:22] <Kerbero> ek kan nie mense help as hulle nie wil luister nie
[19:23] <inetpro> but you certainly don't want an open proxy 
[19:23] <nicom> hoe
[19:23] <Kerbero> ek ken mikrotik redelik goed, maar as hy nie eers weet wat winbox is nie is daar nie veel hoop nie
[19:23] <inetpro> it will be exploited!
[19:23] <Kilos> patience Kerbero we were all chatting together
[19:23] <Kilos> its kinda stressfull at times
[19:24] <Kerbero> nicom: how do you configure you router?
[19:24] <nicom> I need my windows laptop to winbox
[19:24] <nicom> this is ubuntu
[19:24] <Kerbero> you can do it via wine too
[19:24] <Kerbero> but ok
[19:24] <Kerbero> do you have your windows laptop at hand?
[19:25] <nicom> I did it a year ago
[19:25] <Kerbero> hmm
[19:25] <Kerbero> let's see
[19:25] <nicom> from my windows  laptop  I had a lot of problems and sent files to mikrotik
[19:25] <Kerbero> you do know the login details of your router?
[19:26] <nicom> they sent me commands to do
[19:26] <inetpro> What is an open proxy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_proxy
[19:26] <Kerbero> nicom: ok i'll try the most common one quickly
[19:26] <Kerbero> in a terminal type:
[19:27] <Kerbero> telnet 192.168.88.1
[19:27] <nicom> I used my windows compouter
[19:27] <nlsthzn> thanks to inetpro and Kerbero for coming to the rescue with their 1337 skills 
[19:27] <Kerbero> does anything happen?
[19:27] <nicom> my network is 10.154.2.1 
[19:27] <Kerbero> ok use that ip then
[19:27]  * Kilos agrees with nlsthzn 
[19:27] <nicom> let me tryu
[19:27] <inetpro> heh
[19:28] <Kilos> horses for courses
[19:30] <inetpro> Running an open proxy is a high risk for the server operator; providing an anonymous proxy server can cause real legal troubles to the owner.
[19:30] <nicom> I cant remember paswd
[19:30] <Kerbero> blank
[19:30] <inetpro> Such services are frequently used to break into foreign computer systems...
[19:31] <inetpro> etc, etc,
[19:31] <nicom> I feel guilty I have wasted your time
[19:31] <nicom> I will shut down this laptop
[19:31] <nicom> opem windows laptop and setup mikrotik
[19:31] <inetpro> hmm... 
[19:31] <Kerbero> if you do manage to log in
[19:31] <inetpro> nicom: don't feel guilty
[19:32] <nicom> what port to open ?
[19:32] <Kerbero> no
[19:32] <Kilos> no nicom fix it and listen to inetpro and Kerbero 
[19:32] <inetpro> we've all been there
[19:32] <Kerbero> go to the ip in your browser
[19:32] <Kerbero> and click on download winbox
[19:32] <Kilos> they will steer you right
[19:32] <Kerbero> then log in with winbox
[19:32] <Kerbero> then
[19:32] <Kerbero> write this down
[19:32] <inetpro> just don't expect to learn everything in one day
[19:32] <nicom> i cant log in kant rememeber passwwowrd
[19:33] <nicom> ok
[19:33] <Kerbero> go to "IP" in the menu
[19:33] <Kerbero> then "Web Proxy"
[19:33] <inetpro> and don't be afraid to make mistakes, see it as a lesson
[19:33] <Kerbero> click on "Web Proxy Settings"
[19:33] <Kerbero> and deselect "enabled"
[19:33] <Kerbero> if stuff breaks, just go and enable it again
[19:34] <Kerbero> if you really can't remember the password, you will need to reset the router
[19:34] <Kerbero> and set everyting up again
[19:34] <nicom> ok will do unenambled prodxy
[19:34] <Kerbero> good luck
[19:34] <nicom> thanks 
[19:34] <nicom> ok no I swop machines
[19:34] <nicom> thanks for help
[19:35] <Kilos> nicom, is xchat not working on win and ubuntu?
[19:35] <Kilos> 2 machines?
[19:35] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[19:36] <nicom> Iits license expired on windows
[19:36] <Kilos> what licence
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: let him just fix one thing at a time, I think it is more important to get the open proxy sorted first
[19:36] <nicom> ok see U later
[19:36] <Kilos> ya inetpro 
[19:36] <inetpro> nicom: you're welcome
[19:37] <nicom> do I ask iBurst to open the prooxy?
[19:37] <nicom> ok C U later
[19:38] <inetpro> eish! Hope he comes right.
[19:38] <Kilos> shame, i think he is getting flustered
[19:38] <inetpro> I don't know how he uses mikrotik with iburst
[19:38] <Kilos> sorry if i interfered 
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[19:38] <Kilos> i dont even know what mikrotik is
[19:39] <Kerbero> i guess the mikrotik is his NAT
[19:40] <magespawn> Howdy all
[19:40] <nlsthzn> mikrotik router
[19:41] <inetpro> as far as I'm aware mikrotik devices are typically used for big wireless networks 
[19:41] <Kerbero> generally yes
[19:41] <Kerbero> but routerOS is quite good for non-wireless stuff too
[19:41] <inetpro> ok
[19:41] <Kerbero> mikrotik is top of the range consumer class
[19:41] <inetpro> cool
[19:42] <Kerbero> i put cisco right above it
[19:42] <Kerbero> well
[19:42] <Kerbero> the cheapest ciscos
[19:45]  * inetpro wonders why they built it so that you can only administer with a windows technology (winbox)
[19:45] <Kerbero> well
[19:45] <Kerbero> as i said it works perfectly in wine
[19:45] <nlsthzn> at least my cisco only needs a broweser
[19:46] <Kerbero> and it is only a gui for exactly what one can do via telnet/ssh
[19:46] <Kerbero> o0
[19:46] <Kerbero> nlsthzn: that is not a good thing
[19:46] <inetpro> Kerbero: true, I can't say I've never tried it
[19:46] <Kerbero> *not necessarily 
[19:46] <inetpro> but they should build a gui linux client
[19:46] <nlsthzn> not sure about good but it is easy
[19:47] <Kerbero> linux users would just use the cli
[19:47] <Kerbero> as it is easier to script and put the settings on 100's of routers
[19:47] <inetpro> as much as I hate to say this, sometimes a gui can be better
[19:47] <Kerbero> yes
[19:48] <magespawn> Easier for noobs too
[19:48] <Kerbero> i do configure my mikrotik's with the gui
[19:48] <nlsthzn> \o/
[19:48] <inetpro> I have seen the winbox interface and it seems fairly easy to use, and effective on top of that
[19:48] <Kerbero> i normally say that if there is a routing rule you can think of, routeros(mikrotik) can do it
[19:49] <Kerbero> :P
[19:49] <Kerbero> i have done some routing on mine that is impossible with iptables
[19:49] <inetpro> Kerbero: ahh, I guess the scripting solution answers the question
[19:49] <Kerbero> anyway, enough of mikrotik
[19:50] <Kerbero> just remember to buy mikrotik for all your wifi :P
[19:50] <inetpro> :-)
[19:50] <Kilos> hehe
[19:50] <Kerbero> the entire ctwug and ptwug runs on them afaik
[19:50] <Kilos> thanks for coming in to help guys
[19:51] <inetpro> Kerbero: so what else do you have up your sleeves this evening if you don't want to talk about mikrotik?
[19:51] <Kerbero> i'm tired of sitting in front of my computer
[19:51] <inetpro> ahh
[19:51] <inetpro> +1
[19:52] <Kilos> bedtime for ballies
[19:52] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: good night
[19:52] <magespawn> Night Kilos
[19:53] <Kerbero> night
[21:50] <magespawn> Night all
[22:32] <zeref> anybody using 12.04?
[22:33] <nlsthzn> a little
[22:33] <nlsthzn> have tested a thing or two in it
[23:39] <zeref> ffs