[07:24] morning superfly and others [07:28] hi Kilos & others [07:28] hi plustwo [07:28] o/ [07:28] morning [07:28] you well? [07:29] yo Squirm [07:29] Kilos: yep, never been this better. :) [07:29] how are you doing? [07:29] hehe that sounds good [07:30] ok ty [07:30] morning Kilos [07:32] can one of you please look here and find me the email addy [07:32] http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/default.aspx [07:34] i dont have data to browse [07:35] Kilos: no e-mail address on there [07:35] Kilos: you can try "customercare@tshwane.gov.za" [07:36] eish ty superfly . power cutting here daily up to 5 times a day [07:36] great ty superfly i will mail them and see if i can rock the boat a bit [07:37] that sounds like the one they just keep passing the buck till it gets to someone that has the energy to do something [07:56] bbl have a good day guys === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] [09:27] Mornin === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [10:42] YawwnN [10:45] Zzzzz [11:58] hello [11:58] * Squirm prods nuvolari === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] [12:25] Maaz: tell Kilos it seems to be happening in my area as well lately, so you're not the only one [12:25] inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [14:24] hmmmmm [14:28] zeref: hmmmmm? === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] [15:25] ubuntu-za dead dead [15:26] * nlsthzn lurks in the shadows [15:27] * Alphaguyy aims his Pistol [15:27] :( [15:28] come out [15:28] ... while you aim at me!? [15:28] so we can see you [15:30] it's quiet here compared to #ubuntu [15:30] it's nice [15:31] it's very laid back [15:31] typical Za [15:33] it can get hectic in here... [15:34] yeah i guess so [15:35] * Alphaguyy fires some shots === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [16:03] Some of us have work to do during business hours... [16:19] anybody experiencing problems with za.archive.ubuntu.com? [16:19] seems like it is pointing to the wrong IP [16:22] hiya nlsthzn and others [16:23] hi [16:24] hi Alphaguyy howzit [16:24] good u [16:24] good too ty [16:24] :) [16:25] so you going to the varsity to get cds burned? [16:25] wich one exactly [16:26] hmm [16:26] i think all of them [16:26] if not for the data use we could google them [16:27] limited to irc [16:27] il get it when its released [16:27] 12.04 [16:27] ya me to and some pidgin time [16:28] fly like a pidgin cluck like a chikn [16:28] lol [16:28] hi superfly , Kilos etc... [16:28] dont you know pidgin? [16:28] i dont know how im connected tho [16:28] im using pidgin on 9.04 [16:28] connect via n73 usb n 45cents [16:29] i use xchat [16:29] whats a n73? [16:29] 9.04 comes in handy for pc.s that dont wana boot up [16:29] nokian mobile phone [16:30] ha ha ha yeah i fix all boot probs with ubntu [16:30] watch hw i time out [16:30] ah [16:30] my son also uses boot-repair in ubuntu to fix drives at his work [16:31] boot repair? [16:31] its a tool in ubuntu [16:31] boot-repair [16:32] hmm [16:32] does it repair windows boot [16:33] it does mbr and boot sector [16:33] but there are ways with windows to repair mbr and boot sector from the cd as well [16:33] hmm [16:34] with xp you boot to command prompt [16:34] this guys pc has a virus i suspect coz once i log in loads settings and then nothing [16:35] then type in /fixmbr then /fixboot [16:35] i usn live cd to browse the drive only for backup so i can do fresh install [16:35] they can be repaired normally [16:36] and run avast antivirus [16:36] half of what i hated with windows was all the formatting and new installs needed [16:37] only use ubuntu now [16:37] yeah i know [16:38] windows faults brings the dollars [16:38] yeah [16:39] looking at how much money red hat makes linux faults can do the same [16:40] im off for now [16:40] thanx kilos [16:40] cheers Alphaguyy [16:45] all good there nlsthzn [16:45] ? [16:46] aan hoy bek hou uncle Kilos [16:46] *hou [16:46] lol [16:46] ... and there in Za land? [16:46] dont forget moed hou [16:46] getting cold again [16:46] sdigh [16:46] sigh too [16:46] getting hot here :'( [16:47] wanna swop [16:47] hehe [16:48] :) to be honest, if I have to be outside a lot in the coming months I would [16:48] ha ha ha [16:51] bbl [18:03] hi [18:12] hi === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] [18:28] lo superfly and others [18:28] hi nicom [18:29] inetpro, dis sleg van hulle ne [18:29] hi kilos [18:30] nlsthzn, why you up so late? [18:30] two guess uncle Kilos [18:30] *guesses [18:30] work? [18:30] correct [18:31] night shift [18:31] eish [18:31] I cant get in from xchat it bannes me every time [18:31] spose if you dont work you dont eat hey [18:31] is there a secret to that? [18:31] nicom, what seems to be the prob [18:32] you have to set it up [18:32] i am on web page [18:32] xchat no work [18:32] do you have xchat installed nicom ? [18:32] how [18:32] yes [18:32] you are on ubuntu hey? [18:32] yes 12:04 [18:33] ok lets do it step for step [18:33] i gotta open and look what to do [18:33] nicom, what is the exact message you get when you try connect? [18:33] ok. the first little window you open [18:33] 1 min [18:34] * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned ) [18:34] ok [18:34] and that's when you try connect to the server [18:34] scroll to freenode [18:34] not to achannel? [18:34] yip [18:35] tick on freenode and then tick edit on the right [18:35] * Connected. Now logging in... * *** Looking up your hostname... * *** Checking Ident * *** Found your hostname * *** No Ident response * You are banned from this server- Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080)). Email proxyscan@freenode.net when corrected. (2012/4/19 19.52) * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned ) * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [18:36] oh im running ahead sorry [18:36] it starts automatically [18:36] freenode is selected [18:36] you gotta make it open to that first window first [18:36] seems like a banned account [18:37] is this relavent: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14845/unable-to-connect-to-freenode-because-of-open-proxy [18:37] it mustnt start auto till you have it set up [18:37] ah could be Banlam [18:38] how do I unstart it [18:39] most likely need to tell it to go irc.freenode.net/8001 [18:39] ok what password do you use? [18:39] you need to uninstall and also remove the settings etc in home [18:40] I got it to not start automatically [18:40] you register your nic and set password at irc [18:40] right [18:40] now edit it [18:40] then tick freenode once [18:40] then edit [18:41] you too fast for me [18:41] how register [18:41] how register ? url ? [18:41] you have to be connected to the server [18:41] via an irc client [18:41] to register an account [18:41] but that's not necessary [18:41] did you have a look at that link I jsut posted? [18:42] that may be your problem [18:42] but you should get here with xchat before you even register [18:42] connecting to freenode banns me [18:43] Banlam, is it a 12.04 prob you think? [18:43] err.. couldn't say [18:43] connecting to freenode baned me [18:43] the post is from nov 2010... [18:43] so [18:43] dont just connect === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [18:44] looking [18:44] what have you got in the channel box [18:44] I am using miktotik [18:44] I am using miktotik router [18:44] and untick the connect automatically tick box [18:44] *mikrotik?\ [18:44] nicom, what client are you currently using? [18:44] done [18:45] nicom, can you open a terminal, and type the following " rpm -q squid " and tell me what output you get? [18:46] xchat [18:47] nicom, no, what i mean is how are you chatting to us now, if you can't get xchat to connect to freenode? [18:47] in the top block do you see irc.freenode.net/8001 [18:47] The program 'rpm' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install rpm [18:47] nicom, ok, nvrmdn [18:48] i am using the web page form [18:48] nicom, ok [18:48] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za [18:49] gtg, good luck, hope Kilos can help [18:49] toods Banlam [18:49] ok nicom you got the first window open still/ [18:49] ? [18:49] did you need something special to work IRC? [18:50] did you need something special to work IRC? settings , password [18:50] no xchat goes straight in if setup right [18:50] nope i came on here before i registered anything [18:50] ok I may need to open port 8081 [18:50] ok I may need to open port 8081 in mikrotik [18:50] you can add the passwords later once you got this working [18:51] but how did it respond to me? [18:52] i dunno what went wrong there. need a clever guy to figure that out [18:52] my two cents worth... it isn't a ports issue because the client is able to connect to the server... the error account banned needs some investigating and fixing... carry on... [18:52] ok i will uninstall it and try again [18:52] dont forget to remove any xchat files in home [18:52] or it will keep doing the same thing [18:53] nlsthzn, im dom with the ports bit. do we use different ports? [18:53] mine shows 8001 [18:54] it isn't a ports issue but I use 6667 [18:54] oh my [18:55] nicom, what else do you see in the top servers for freenode block? [18:56] nlsthzn, what decides what port is used [18:56] for interests sake [18:57] well for me port 8001 isn't open (ISP blocked it I think)... but the IRC server decides what ports it will use... for freenode it is 8001 and 6667 AFAIK [18:57] it should be done automatically hey? [18:57] I uninstalled it and its still there [18:58] did you guys check the link that Banlam_ posted earlier? [18:58] I get the option to install but its there [18:58] nicom, did you remove the xchat folder in home? [18:58] nicom, do you have aptitude installed? [18:58] now its removing [19:00] aptitude ? [19:00] like apt-get but better [19:00] not [19:00] dont know doe ubuntu come with it [19:00] :p [19:01] ok [19:01] sudo apt-get install aptitude [19:01] is it needed? [19:01] it works great for installing and uninstalling etc [19:02] and more user friendly [19:02] I ma gettint the same problem [19:03] I re-installed [19:03] should i try xchant gnome [19:03] have you got aptitude now [19:03] the gnome one sucks imo [19:04] you havent got rif of the config files i think [19:04] *rid [19:04] adding it [19:04] problem is with using open proxy and freenode not accepting it... nothing wrong with xchat [19:04] ah can you help nlsthzn ? [19:04] is apttude a gui? [19:05] no its command line/terminal [19:05] nlsrn? [19:06] nicom: are you running any type of proxy software? [19:06] I like GUI as my memory is weak too many commands to remember [19:07] no I have a mikrotik router connected to my iBurst via PPPOE [19:07] yeah but at times cli works better methinks [19:08] it seems the problem is with the router.... [19:08] cli ? [19:08] command line interface [19:08] terminal [19:08] ok I will google it [19:09] nicom, one sec first [19:09] when you removed xchat did you remove the folder in home before installing again [19:09] http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Misc/Q_27500503.html seems to have the answer but I am not subscribed there so it won't show it to me :/ [19:10] ... however seeing as you all seem hell bent on re-installing a working client I will leave you to it ;) [19:10] no [19:10] whick folder [19:10] nlsthzn, you help i know niks about routers [19:10] in your home directory [19:11] scroll down you will see something with xchat [19:11] maybe 2xchat [19:11] i go see [19:11] Kilos: I don't either in this case... but that is where the issue is [19:12] might want to try #freenode [19:12] .xchat2 its called [19:12] xchat doesnt often give issues [19:13] nlsthzn, is 12.04 same as maverick when it comes to home? [19:14] yup [19:14] whew [19:14] still gnome... even if it is a new one [19:14] was worried there for a bit [19:14] :) [19:14] lol [19:15] I will ask my coleague quintin beukes he kknows ubuntu and mikrotik I might fotgut somthin [19:15] thanks all for help [19:15] nicom, lets work through it slowly [19:16] I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoris [19:16] I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoria [19:16] ok kilos [19:17] have you found the folder in home [19:17] looking [19:17] oh in home [19:17] yeah [19:18] nicom: do you have winbox? [19:18] some times you have to tell it to show hidden folders [19:18] nicom: Your host is an open proxy [19:18] that is the problem [19:18] hi inetpro you are just in time [19:18] looks to me like a microtik misconfiguration [19:19] the webproxy on the mikrotik is just running [19:19] and not denying external ip's [19:19] sudo rm .chat2 [19:19] s/microtik/mikrotik/ [19:19] ? ok to [19:20] sec nicom here what inetpro and Kerbero say [19:20] inetpro, can you help him sort it [19:20] ? [19:20] I seem to remembet I had to open port 8080 [19:20] maybe i need 8001 [19:21] no [19:21] I worked irc before with older ubunu [19:21] Make sure that your proxy is NOT a Open Proxy [19:21] there is absolutely no reason to open ports for outgoing connections [19:21] nicom: Winbox [19:22] eg: Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080)) [19:22] oops [19:22] eg: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/How_to_Block_Websites_%26_Stop_Downloading_Using_Proxy [19:22] I dont set proxy server I have raw internet via firewl in mikrotik [19:22] ai [19:22] I don't know Mikrotik stuff so can't realy help [19:22] ek kan nie mense help as hulle nie wil luister nie [19:23] but you certainly don't want an open proxy [19:23] hoe [19:23] ek ken mikrotik redelik goed, maar as hy nie eers weet wat winbox is nie is daar nie veel hoop nie [19:23] it will be exploited! [19:23] patience Kerbero we were all chatting together [19:23] its kinda stressfull at times [19:24] nicom: how do you configure you router? [19:24] I need my windows laptop to winbox [19:24] this is ubuntu [19:24] you can do it via wine too [19:24] but ok [19:24] do you have your windows laptop at hand? [19:25] I did it a year ago [19:25] hmm [19:25] let's see [19:25] from my windows laptop I had a lot of problems and sent files to mikrotik [19:25] you do know the login details of your router? [19:26] they sent me commands to do [19:26] What is an open proxy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_proxy [19:26] nicom: ok i'll try the most common one quickly [19:26] in a terminal type: [19:27] telnet 192.168.88.1 [19:27] I used my windows compouter [19:27] thanks to inetpro and Kerbero for coming to the rescue with their 1337 skills [19:27] does anything happen? [19:27] my network is 10.154.2.1 [19:27] ok use that ip then [19:27] * Kilos agrees with nlsthzn [19:27] let me tryu [19:27] heh [19:28] horses for courses [19:30] Running an open proxy is a high risk for the server operator; providing an anonymous proxy server can cause real legal troubles to the owner. [19:30] I cant remember paswd [19:30] blank [19:30] Such services are frequently used to break into foreign computer systems... [19:31] etc, etc, [19:31] I feel guilty I have wasted your time [19:31] I will shut down this laptop [19:31] opem windows laptop and setup mikrotik [19:31] hmm... [19:31] if you do manage to log in [19:31] nicom: don't feel guilty [19:32] what port to open ? [19:32] no [19:32] no nicom fix it and listen to inetpro and Kerbero [19:32] we've all been there [19:32] go to the ip in your browser [19:32] and click on download winbox [19:32] they will steer you right [19:32] then log in with winbox [19:32] then [19:32] write this down [19:32] just don't expect to learn everything in one day [19:32] i cant log in kant rememeber passwwowrd [19:33] ok [19:33] go to "IP" in the menu [19:33] then "Web Proxy" [19:33] and don't be afraid to make mistakes, see it as a lesson [19:33] click on "Web Proxy Settings" [19:33] and deselect "enabled" [19:33] if stuff breaks, just go and enable it again [19:34] if you really can't remember the password, you will need to reset the router [19:34] and set everyting up again [19:34] ok will do unenambled prodxy [19:34] good luck [19:34] thanks [19:34] ok no I swop machines [19:34] thanks for help [19:35] nicom, is xchat not working on win and ubuntu? [19:35] 2 machines? [19:35] hi magespawn [19:36] Iits license expired on windows [19:36] what licence [19:36] Kilos: let him just fix one thing at a time, I think it is more important to get the open proxy sorted first [19:36] ok see U later [19:36] ya inetpro [19:36] nicom: you're welcome [19:37] do I ask iBurst to open the prooxy? [19:37] ok C U later [19:38] eish! Hope he comes right. [19:38] shame, i think he is getting flustered [19:38] I don't know how he uses mikrotik with iburst [19:38] sorry if i interfered [19:38] Kilos: np [19:38] i dont even know what mikrotik is [19:39] i guess the mikrotik is his NAT [19:40] Howdy all [19:40] mikrotik router [19:41] as far as I'm aware mikrotik devices are typically used for big wireless networks [19:41] generally yes [19:41] but routerOS is quite good for non-wireless stuff too [19:41] ok [19:41] mikrotik is top of the range consumer class [19:41] cool [19:42] i put cisco right above it [19:42] well [19:42] the cheapest ciscos [19:45] * inetpro wonders why they built it so that you can only administer with a windows technology (winbox) [19:45] well [19:45] as i said it works perfectly in wine [19:45] at least my cisco only needs a broweser [19:46] and it is only a gui for exactly what one can do via telnet/ssh [19:46] o0 [19:46] nlsthzn: that is not a good thing [19:46] Kerbero: true, I can't say I've never tried it [19:46] *not necessarily [19:46] but they should build a gui linux client [19:46] not sure about good but it is easy [19:47] linux users would just use the cli [19:47] as it is easier to script and put the settings on 100's of routers [19:47] as much as I hate to say this, sometimes a gui can be better [19:47] yes [19:48] Easier for noobs too [19:48] i do configure my mikrotik's with the gui [19:48] \o/ [19:48] I have seen the winbox interface and it seems fairly easy to use, and effective on top of that [19:48] i normally say that if there is a routing rule you can think of, routeros(mikrotik) can do it [19:49] :P [19:49] i have done some routing on mine that is impossible with iptables [19:49] Kerbero: ahh, I guess the scripting solution answers the question [19:49] anyway, enough of mikrotik [19:50] just remember to buy mikrotik for all your wifi :P [19:50] :-) [19:50] hehe [19:50] the entire ctwug and ptwug runs on them afaik [19:50] thanks for coming in to help guys [19:51] Kerbero: so what else do you have up your sleeves this evening if you don't want to talk about mikrotik? [19:51] i'm tired of sitting in front of my computer [19:51] ahh [19:51] +1 [19:52] bedtime for ballies [19:52] night all sleep tight [19:52] Kilos: good night [19:52] Night Kilos [19:53] night [21:50] Night all [22:32] anybody using 12.04? [22:33] a little [22:33] have tested a thing or two in it [23:39] ffs