| Unit193 | Was in offtopic. | 00:38 |
|---|---|---|
| carnau | ochosi, ping | 08:18 |
| ochosi | carnau: pong | 08:53 |
| carnau | ochosi, http://i.imgur.com/raC3e.png | 08:54 |
| ochosi | yay | 08:54 |
| ochosi | just as planned | 08:54 |
| carnau | looks great! | 08:54 |
| ochosi | could you do me a favor and mute? | 08:55 |
| carnau | sure | 08:55 |
| ochosi | how does that look? | 08:56 |
| carnau | good | 08:56 |
| carnau | icon blinks in blue when sound can't be reproduced | 08:57 |
| ochosi | hm, no i mean the volume bar | 09:01 |
| ochosi | it should be insensitive | 09:01 |
| ochosi | therefore a different coloring | 09:01 |
| carnau | http://i.imgur.com/8EImC.png | 09:03 |
| ochosi | a-ha | 09:03 |
| ochosi | ok, well in this case that's fine :) | 09:04 |
| carnau | good :) | 09:04 |
| ochosi | i thought the color of the bar just changes when muted | 09:04 |
| ochosi | if you come acress any other oddities with unity feel free to let me know | 09:05 |
| ochosi | but i think now we got most of it covered | 09:05 |
| carnau | ok | 09:05 |
| ochosi | oh, one last thing, would you mind to take a few more screenshots of your unity desktop with greybird? i'm planning to write a blogpost so i could use some screeners | 09:06 |
| carnau | yes, tell me what u want | 09:08 |
| carnau | anything in particular? nautilus, ff, rhythmbox? | 09:09 |
| ochosi | hmm, first a pic of the desktop with only the dash open maybe? | 09:11 |
| ochosi | (that's kinda the trademark screenshot) | 09:11 |
| ochosi | then maybe rhythmbox with the soundmenu open at the same time (that's the one you sent me the latest screenshots of) | 09:11 |
| knome | just for the record, i prefer liberation mono as the terminal font | 09:12 |
| ochosi | knome: you mean you prefer it to droid sans mono? | 09:12 |
| knome | yes | 09:13 |
| ochosi | because it's more round and terminaly? | 09:13 |
| ochosi | and the zeros have dots inside :) | 09:13 |
| carnau | Ok, i take it in mind. Now I have to work a little more. Ping you later :-) | 09:14 |
| knome | it's just more terminaly, and the bold text works better even in small sizes | 09:14 |
| knome | astraljava, i've been thinking the same about -testers too, and hold any changes until the end of the release | 09:14 |
| ochosi | carnau: sure, thanks a lot again! (also, if you want to be tributed with your full name for the screenshots, please let me know your full name) | 09:14 |
| carnau | don't worry, I don't care | 09:15 |
| ochosi | ok, you can also remain anonymous | 09:16 |
| ochosi | in that case i'd blue your username in the panel | 09:16 |
| ochosi | (although "carlos" doesn't really give away too much ;)) | 09:16 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, the font looks nice. i haven't played much with terminal fonts so far | 09:16 |
| knome | astraljava, i wouldn't mind handing you a team leading position, but what would that be? QA lead maybe, which partly would include testing too | 09:21 |
| knome | Unit193, astraljava: being the testing lead, or QA lead doesn't mean you are the "main tester" though, i don't expect anybody to do most of the tests | 09:23 |
| knome | it should be a community task | 09:23 |
| knome | http://www.muktware.com/articles/3539/quick-preview-xubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin-video | 09:32 |
| knome | pleia2, for the press ^ | 09:32 |
| ochosi | knome: i think i agree on the term-font | 10:22 |
| ochosi | knome: maybe put it on the roadmap (review term-font) | 10:22 |
| knome | ochosi, done | 10:32 |
| knome | review terminal theming meaning we could try to get more feedback about the color scheme | 10:32 |
| ochosi | yeah sounds good | 10:35 |
| ochosi | i guess there are certain apps that use a lot of colors potentially (vim,mutt) that should be reviewed more | 10:36 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 10:36 |
| knome | would you like to start writing a specification for that? | 10:37 |
| ochosi | sorry, no time today | 10:37 |
| ochosi | and i'm not a mutt user ;) | 10:37 |
| knome | ok, i will gather those ideas then ;) | 10:37 |
| ochosi | hmm | 10:37 |
| ochosi | i just saw the maximize icon (+) in our xfwm4 theme looks odd when without the minimize or close icon | 10:38 |
| knome | hmm | 10:38 |
| ochosi | it's very rare that it's the only window-icon, but if it happens, it looks weird | 10:38 |
| knome | heh | 10:38 |
| ochosi | maybe we should go for the two opposing arrows | 10:38 |
| ochosi | even though people might rant because apple (and youtube, and...) use that as well | 10:38 |
| ochosi | (oh wait, youtube changed the fullscreen icon again) | 10:39 |
| knome | hahah | 10:40 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Q/TerminalThemeReview | 10:42 |
| knome | pleia2, we need to get together to work with the slides for UDS plenary | 11:02 |
| knome | pleia2, and oh my, there's an old xubuntu logo on your site :P | 11:03 |
| ochosi | oh btw, another idea for the roadmap before i go (for today): assemble a list of apps we want to show in the settings-manager | 11:11 |
| ochosi | e.g. nvidia-settings, bluetooth-settings, language-support, scim-support etc. | 11:11 |
| ochosi | (12.10 will have xfce4.10's new settings manager, so this'd be feasible) | 11:12 |
| knome | right | 11:13 |
| knome | bbl | 11:14 |
| mr_pouit | +1, I was thinking about that yesterday | 11:43 |
| mr_pouit | it uses a menu file, so we can also customize it like we do for the main menu | 11:44 |
| knome | mr_pouit, +1 because you thought about it too? | 11:45 |
| * knome hides | 11:45 | |
| mr_pouit | exactly :p | 11:51 |
| knome | no, i think that's sensible too | 11:53 |
| knome | mr_pouit, want to be the assignee? | 11:56 |
| * knome stays in the hideout | 11:56 | |
| mr_pouit | no :P | 11:58 |
| knome | so, who is? :P | 11:58 |
| knome | i can ask edii... | 11:58 |
| knome | that's relatively trivial though, isn't it? | 11:58 |
| mr_pouit | I'll probably write the menu file anyway, but someone else has to think about what we want in the settings' dialog ;-) | 11:58 |
| knome | so, probably a low-hanging fruit | 11:58 |
| knome | ;] | 11:59 |
| * knome is off for lunch-dinner | 12:01 | |
| sladen | http://design.canonical.com/2012/04/pebble-watch-and-ubuntu/ <-- XFCE people | 13:48 |
| ochosi | sladen: yup, to be more exact he seems to be using xubuntu (at least he's using my/our default theme) :) | 13:57 |
| sladen | ochosi: thanks, I was going to ask that (but they're on US time). Happy enough if I tweak it just to say "Xubuntu" ? | 14:01 |
| ochosi | sladen: sure sure :) | 14:01 |
| ochosi | sladen: and thanks a lot for stopping by for this! i just saw that by accident on the planet | 14:02 |
| sladen | ochosi: I held back on it overnight until they'd reached the $5m mark (and also because I put out something else earlier in the day too) | 14:04 |
| ochosi | sladen: mm cool, have to say $5m is pretty impressive. and on a sidenote, that seems to be a really cool watch that i'd consider getting (if affordable) | 14:06 |
| astraljava | knome: Yeah, I'm with you on that one. But let's talk about that when the cycle is over. | 15:09 |
| astraljava | I gotta get to the game (well, just the sports bar across the street) :D | 15:10 |
| pleia2 | knome: yeah, there is only like 2-3 slides so it should be easy | 15:55 |
| pleia2 | (and yeah, updating the logo on my site is on my todo list ;)) | 15:55 |
| olbi | hello | 16:46 |
| olbi | final version of Xubuntu will be updated with newest files from xfce.org? | 16:46 |
| baizon | hi | 16:46 |
| baizon | no | 16:46 |
| olbi | include translations? | 16:46 |
| baizon | will be 4.8 | 16:46 |
| olbi | I mean 4.8 files in translations | 16:47 |
| baizon | freeze already done | 16:47 |
| baizon | a ok | 16:47 |
| olbi | because I have found some bugs letters :P | 16:47 |
| olbi | in polish language :] | 16:47 |
| olbi | and fix it now | 16:47 |
| olbi | Xfce 4.10 is even better in translating that 4.8 :P | 16:48 |
| Unit193 | And not just that either, but 4.10 won't make it in at all that I know of. | 16:49 |
| Unit193 | Don't think they'd want to back port the entire DE. | 16:49 |
| olbi | :P | 16:49 |
| olbi | I was looking even https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/pl/ | 16:50 |
| olbi | but there wasn't theses files, like xfce-session :P which has bugs | 16:50 |
| olbi | which files have files from ubiquity installer for xubuntu? | 16:51 |
| olbi | ok, got it :D | 16:54 |
| olbi | ok, today I think I should update xfce 4.8 - thunnar translations, how long it take to upadate it in xubuntu 11.10 and xubuntu 12.04 LTS? | 17:25 |
| baizon | what update? | 17:26 |
| baizon | from 11.10 to 12.04 or just the xfce from 4.8 to 4.10? | 17:26 |
| olbi | update translations files of xfce in xubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 lts :) after I upload newly translated po file | 17:29 |
| baizon | :D | 17:29 |
| olbi | :D | 17:34 |
| olbi | it means very fast :] | 17:34 |
| carnau | ochosi, ping | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | trying to duplicate that error seen on list | 20:14 |
| pleia2 | (I was "eeek" at that one reply, so figured I'd follow up) | 20:14 |
| pleia2 | getting my precise system all updated first though ;) | 20:14 |
| knome | :) | 20:17 |
| knome | pleia2, how much time was that the plenary again, and how much do you think you will be able to go through in that time? | 21:08 |
| pleia2 | 2.5 minutes | 21:08 |
| pleia2 | so not much :) | 21:08 |
| knome | heh, yeah... | 21:09 |
| pleia2 | really just "some interesting plans for Q" | 21:09 |
| pleia2 | I figure I'll just use your blog post | 21:09 |
| knome | http://beta.primarypad.com/p/xub-plenary | 21:09 |
| knome | i'll try to build up something there | 21:09 |
| pleia2 | okie | 21:11 |
| knome | pleia2, how does that look now? | 21:18 |
| * pleia2 thumbs up | 21:19 | |
| knome | great | 21:20 |
| knome | i'll put that in a pdf, or do you rather want some other format? ;) | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | we can add some tech notes too, like moving to 4.10 (I assume that'll be in the plans?) | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | any format is fine, I'll create some pretty xfce-brand slides in odp | 21:21 |
| knome | yeah | 21:21 |
| knome | xfce??? | 21:21 |
| knome | WHAT | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | err, xubuntu | 21:21 |
| knome | haha | 21:21 |
| knome | do you have a template? | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | the mouse head! | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | not yet | 21:21 |
| knome | well... i do | 21:21 |
| knome | ;) | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | ooh | 21:21 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/q_planning/xubuntu-q.pdf | 21:22 |
| knome | well, that, with our logo | 21:22 |
| pleia2 | oh yes, that's lovely | 21:22 |
| knome | great, i'll push the content to that template them | 21:23 |
| knome | *then | 21:23 |
| pleia2 | I love how jorge's email said "talk about what you've decided at UDS ... need your branded slides by say the week before UDS" | 21:26 |
| pleia2 | lucky for us we aren't deciding anything at UDS! | 21:27 |
| knome | haha, lol ;) | 21:30 |
| Unit193 | I need to check and see if I care about any sessions... | 21:33 |
| knome | huh, one can't copy master slides? :/ | 21:38 |
| knome | now i remember why i don't like impress | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | guess we'll have to write them in latex | 21:57 |
| knome | >__< | 21:59 |
| knome | naturally, slideshow measures are in... INCHES??! | 21:59 |
| knome | yeah, i got this 24" screen, can you make the slideshow 24"? | 21:59 |
| knome | fsstt.. | 22:00 |
| knome | ah, now i get it | 22:01 |
| knome | images original size is not original size | 22:01 |
| knome | that's so logical | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | yeah, why would you think that? :P | 22:02 |
| knome | the original size is just any size openoffice originally decided to paste the picture in | 22:02 |
| knome | how was i so dumb | 22:02 |
| knome | to make it easier for the user too, any white elements in svg's are made transparent too | 22:03 |
| knome | because who ever wants white | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | most applications aren't very good at handling svg | 22:04 |
| knome | yeah, why handle svg at all then? | 22:04 |
| knome | i mean, that's just stupid | 22:04 |
| knome | hmm | 22:05 |
| knome | the master slides allow you to apply a style | 22:05 |
| knome | but GOTCHA! | 22:05 |
| knome | it's only applied to text areas with bullets | 22:05 |
| knome | those who do not have bullets fallback to black arial 22 | 22:06 |
| knome | ta-dah! | 22:06 |
| knome | because it is the only thing you ever wanted | 22:06 |
| knome | oh right | 22:06 |
| knome | you possibly should have known the best way is to set numbering to "none" on bullets | 22:07 |
| knome | ah, i should have known | 22:09 |
| knome | that's the "subtitle" element | 22:09 |
| knome | which is only visible on the "styles and formatting" dock | 22:09 |
| knome | wth | 22:11 |
| knome | now one of my existing slides is borked ?? | 22:11 |
| knome | i have no idea why, but centered on two master slides look similar, but on actual slides, the slide with other master slide does "different" centering | 22:21 |
| knome | which is not centered | 22:21 |
| knome | hah, the font kerning is different in the different master slides now... | 22:31 |
| knome | ARGH. | 22:39 |
| knome | \o/ | 22:51 |
| * knome beats openoffice with some majestic big band playing on the background | 22:51 | |
| knome | pleia2, what was the day again? | 22:52 |
| knome | pleia2, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/q_planning/xubuntu-q-plenary.pdf | 22:55 |
| pleia2 | knome: it'll be thursday, so the 10th | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | of may | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | spiffy :) | 23:36 |
| knome | :) | 23:36 |
| Unit193 | Haha, I *just* checked your idle/away time/status. :P | 23:36 |
| knome | hah | 23:36 |
| knome | pleia2, file updated for you | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | great :) | 23:39 |
| knome | if you need anything else, just ping me | 23:39 |
| knome | i can even provide you the OO files if you need | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | OO would be great in case jorge surprises me with something else he wants in it | 23:40 |
| knome | haha | 23:40 |
| knome | in the surprise-case... tell him to knock the door to my cave | 23:40 |
| pleia2 | ok :) | 23:40 |
| knome | and i will grumble a bit ;) | 23:40 |
| pleia2 | lol | 23:40 |
| knome | no, i'll copy you the oo-file | 23:40 |
| knome | it's in the same folder | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | 2012-04-19 16:41:19 (171 KB/s) - `xubuntu-q-plenary.odp' saved [221573/221573] | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 23:41 |
| knome | good, it can stay there though | 23:41 |
| knome | at least before i remove it ;) | 23:42 |
| knome | but that's probably not very soon | 23:42 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:42 |
| * pleia2 goes to replace ram in laptop | 23:42 | |
| knome | good luck | 23:42 |
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