[00:38] Was in offtopic. [08:18] ochosi, ping [08:53] carnau: pong [08:54] ochosi, http://i.imgur.com/raC3e.png [08:54] yay [08:54] just as planned [08:54] looks great! [08:55] could you do me a favor and mute? [08:55] sure [08:56] how does that look? [08:56] good [08:57] icon blinks in blue when sound can't be reproduced [09:01] hm, no i mean the volume bar [09:01] it should be insensitive [09:01] therefore a different coloring [09:03] http://i.imgur.com/8EImC.png [09:03] a-ha [09:04] ok, well in this case that's fine :) [09:04] good :) [09:04] i thought the color of the bar just changes when muted [09:05] if you come acress any other oddities with unity feel free to let me know [09:05] but i think now we got most of it covered [09:05] ok [09:06] oh, one last thing, would you mind to take a few more screenshots of your unity desktop with greybird? i'm planning to write a blogpost so i could use some screeners [09:08] yes, tell me what u want [09:09] anything in particular? nautilus, ff, rhythmbox? [09:11] hmm, first a pic of the desktop with only the dash open maybe? [09:11] (that's kinda the trademark screenshot) [09:11] then maybe rhythmbox with the soundmenu open at the same time (that's the one you sent me the latest screenshots of) [09:12] just for the record, i prefer liberation mono as the terminal font [09:12] knome: you mean you prefer it to droid sans mono? [09:13] yes [09:13] because it's more round and terminaly? [09:13] and the zeros have dots inside :) [09:14] Ok, i take it in mind. Now I have to work a little more. Ping you later :-) [09:14] it's just more terminaly, and the bold text works better even in small sizes [09:14] astraljava, i've been thinking the same about -testers too, and hold any changes until the end of the release [09:14] carnau: sure, thanks a lot again! (also, if you want to be tributed with your full name for the screenshots, please let me know your full name) [09:15] don't worry, I don't care [09:16] ok, you can also remain anonymous [09:16] in that case i'd blue your username in the panel [09:16] (although "carlos" doesn't really give away too much ;)) [09:16] knome: yeah, the font looks nice. i haven't played much with terminal fonts so far [09:21] astraljava, i wouldn't mind handing you a team leading position, but what would that be? QA lead maybe, which partly would include testing too [09:23] Unit193, astraljava: being the testing lead, or QA lead doesn't mean you are the "main tester" though, i don't expect anybody to do most of the tests [09:23] it should be a community task [09:32] http://www.muktware.com/articles/3539/quick-preview-xubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin-video [09:32] pleia2, for the press ^ [10:22] knome: i think i agree on the term-font [10:22] knome: maybe put it on the roadmap (review term-font) [10:32] ochosi, done [10:32] review terminal theming meaning we could try to get more feedback about the color scheme [10:35] yeah sounds good [10:36] i guess there are certain apps that use a lot of colors potentially (vim,mutt) that should be reviewed more [10:36] mm-hmm [10:37] would you like to start writing a specification for that? [10:37] sorry, no time today [10:37] and i'm not a mutt user ;) [10:37] ok, i will gather those ideas then ;) [10:37] hmm [10:38] i just saw the maximize icon (+) in our xfwm4 theme looks odd when without the minimize or close icon [10:38] hmm [10:38] it's very rare that it's the only window-icon, but if it happens, it looks weird [10:38] heh [10:38] maybe we should go for the two opposing arrows [10:38] even though people might rant because apple (and youtube, and...) use that as well [10:39] (oh wait, youtube changed the fullscreen icon again) [10:40] hahah [10:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Q/TerminalThemeReview [11:02] pleia2, we need to get together to work with the slides for UDS plenary [11:03] pleia2, and oh my, there's an old xubuntu logo on your site :P [11:11] oh btw, another idea for the roadmap before i go (for today): assemble a list of apps we want to show in the settings-manager [11:11] e.g. nvidia-settings, bluetooth-settings, language-support, scim-support etc. [11:12] (12.10 will have xfce4.10's new settings manager, so this'd be feasible) [11:13] right [11:14] bbl [11:43] +1, I was thinking about that yesterday [11:44] it uses a menu file, so we can also customize it like we do for the main menu [11:45] mr_pouit, +1 because you thought about it too? [11:45] * knome hides [11:51] exactly :p [11:53] no, i think that's sensible too [11:56] mr_pouit, want to be the assignee? [11:56] * knome stays in the hideout [11:58] no :P [11:58] so, who is? :P [11:58] i can ask edii... [11:58] that's relatively trivial though, isn't it? [11:58] I'll probably write the menu file anyway, but someone else has to think about what we want in the settings' dialog ;-) [11:58] so, probably a low-hanging fruit [11:59] ;] [12:01] * knome is off for lunch-dinner [13:48] http://design.canonical.com/2012/04/pebble-watch-and-ubuntu/ <-- XFCE people [13:57] sladen: yup, to be more exact he seems to be using xubuntu (at least he's using my/our default theme) :) [14:01] ochosi: thanks, I was going to ask that (but they're on US time). Happy enough if I tweak it just to say "Xubuntu" ? [14:01] sladen: sure sure :) [14:02] sladen: and thanks a lot for stopping by for this! i just saw that by accident on the planet [14:04] ochosi: I held back on it overnight until they'd reached the $5m mark (and also because I put out something else earlier in the day too) [14:06] sladen: mm cool, have to say $5m is pretty impressive. and on a sidenote, that seems to be a really cool watch that i'd consider getting (if affordable) [15:09] knome: Yeah, I'm with you on that one. But let's talk about that when the cycle is over. [15:10] I gotta get to the game (well, just the sports bar across the street) :D [15:55] knome: yeah, there is only like 2-3 slides so it should be easy [15:55] (and yeah, updating the logo on my site is on my todo list ;)) [16:46] hello [16:46] final version of Xubuntu will be updated with newest files from xfce.org? [16:46] hi [16:46] no [16:46] include translations? [16:46] will be 4.8 [16:47] I mean 4.8 files in translations [16:47] freeze already done [16:47] a ok [16:47] because I have found some bugs letters :P [16:47] in polish language :] [16:47] and fix it now [16:48] Xfce 4.10 is even better in translating that 4.8 :P [16:49] And not just that either, but 4.10 won't make it in at all that I know of. [16:49] Don't think they'd want to back port the entire DE. [16:49] :P [16:50] I was looking even https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/pl/ [16:50] but there wasn't theses files, like xfce-session :P which has bugs [16:51] which files have files from ubiquity installer for xubuntu? [16:54] ok, got it :D [17:25] ok, today I think I should update xfce 4.8 - thunnar translations, how long it take to upadate it in xubuntu 11.10 and xubuntu 12.04 LTS? [17:26] what update? [17:26] from 11.10 to 12.04 or just the xfce from 4.8 to 4.10? [17:29] update translations files of xfce in xubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 lts :) after I upload newly translated po file [17:29] :D [17:34] :D [17:34] it means very fast :] [18:52] ochosi, ping [20:14] trying to duplicate that error seen on list [20:14] (I was "eeek" at that one reply, so figured I'd follow up) [20:14] getting my precise system all updated first though ;) [20:17] :) [21:08] pleia2, how much time was that the plenary again, and how much do you think you will be able to go through in that time? [21:08] 2.5 minutes [21:08] so not much :) [21:09] heh, yeah... [21:09] really just "some interesting plans for Q" [21:09] I figure I'll just use your blog post [21:09] http://beta.primarypad.com/p/xub-plenary [21:09] i'll try to build up something there [21:11] okie [21:18] pleia2, how does that look now? [21:19] * pleia2 thumbs up [21:20] great [21:20] i'll put that in a pdf, or do you rather want some other format? ;) [21:20] we can add some tech notes too, like moving to 4.10 (I assume that'll be in the plans?) [21:21] any format is fine, I'll create some pretty xfce-brand slides in odp [21:21] yeah [21:21] xfce??? [21:21] WHAT [21:21] err, xubuntu [21:21] haha [21:21] do you have a template? [21:21] the mouse head! [21:21] not yet [21:21] well... i do [21:21] ;) [21:21] ooh [21:22] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/q_planning/xubuntu-q.pdf [21:22] well, that, with our logo [21:22] oh yes, that's lovely [21:23] great, i'll push the content to that template them [21:23] *then [21:26] I love how jorge's email said "talk about what you've decided at UDS ... need your branded slides by say the week before UDS" [21:27] lucky for us we aren't deciding anything at UDS! [21:30] haha, lol ;) [21:33] I need to check and see if I care about any sessions... [21:38] huh, one can't copy master slides? :/ [21:55] now i remember why i don't like impress [21:57] guess we'll have to write them in latex [21:59] >__< [21:59] naturally, slideshow measures are in... INCHES??! [21:59] yeah, i got this 24" screen, can you make the slideshow 24"? [22:00] fsstt.. [22:01] ah, now i get it [22:01] images original size is not original size [22:02] that's so logical [22:02] yeah, why would you think that? :P [22:02] the original size is just any size openoffice originally decided to paste the picture in [22:02] how was i so dumb [22:03] to make it easier for the user too, any white elements in svg's are made transparent too [22:03] because who ever wants white [22:04] most applications aren't very good at handling svg [22:04] yeah, why handle svg at all then? [22:04] i mean, that's just stupid [22:05] hmm [22:05] the master slides allow you to apply a style [22:05] but GOTCHA! [22:05] it's only applied to text areas with bullets [22:06] those who do not have bullets fallback to black arial 22 [22:06] ta-dah! [22:06] because it is the only thing you ever wanted [22:06] oh right [22:07] you possibly should have known the best way is to set numbering to "none" on bullets [22:09] ah, i should have known [22:09] that's the "subtitle" element [22:09] which is only visible on the "styles and formatting" dock [22:11] wth [22:11] now one of my existing slides is borked ?? [22:21] i have no idea why, but centered on two master slides look similar, but on actual slides, the slide with other master slide does "different" centering [22:21] which is not centered [22:31] hah, the font kerning is different in the different master slides now... [22:39] ARGH. [22:51] \o/ [22:51] * knome beats openoffice with some majestic big band playing on the background [22:52] pleia2, what was the day again? [22:55] pleia2, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/q_planning/xubuntu-q-plenary.pdf [23:36] knome: it'll be thursday, so the 10th [23:36] of may [23:36] spiffy :) [23:36] :) [23:36] Haha, I *just* checked your idle/away time/status. :P [23:36] hah [23:38] pleia2, file updated for you [23:39] great :) [23:39] if you need anything else, just ping me [23:39] i can even provide you the OO files if you need [23:40] OO would be great in case jorge surprises me with something else he wants in it [23:40] haha [23:40] in the surprise-case... tell him to knock the door to my cave [23:40] ok :) [23:40] and i will grumble a bit ;) [23:40] lol [23:40] no, i'll copy you the oo-file [23:41] it's in the same folder [23:41] 2012-04-19 16:41:19 (171 KB/s) - `xubuntu-q-plenary.odp' saved [221573/221573] [23:41] \o/ [23:41] thanks [23:41] good, it can stay there though [23:42] at least before i remove it ;) [23:42] but that's probably not very soon [23:42] :) [23:42] * pleia2 goes to replace ram in laptop [23:42] good luck