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freec_i'm trying to install skype on this fresh new install of xubuntu 11.04 and its telling me it must remove this: libc-bin, its written ESSENTIAL next to it00:32
freec_what is this?00:32
freec_and should i go on with installing skype00:32
babblefreec_: did you manually download the 386 version of skype from skype.com?00:32
freec_no00:33
freec_babble: no00:33
babblewhat, specifically are you trying to install? Which skype package?00:33
freec_skype :i...00:35
freec_in the synaptic00:35
freec_i havn't done an the updates yet00:36
babblethere isn't an official skype client for Natty in the repo00:36
freec_i'm wondering if that could have an effect00:36
freec_is the're not?00:36
babblesee here:00:36
babblehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=skype&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all00:36
freec_i have cannonical partners selected00:36
babblethere are add-ons that work WITH skype, but there isn't a repo-managed package for the skype client itself.00:36
babbleit may be that the skype package in the partner repo is newer than you can install on natty.00:37
babblelet me see what I can find.00:37
freec_yea thats what i'm thinking now...00:37
babbletry this:00:40
babblehttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/s/skype/skype_2.2.0.35-0natty1_i386.deb00:40
babble(what's the version number on the package you're trying to install?)00:41
freec_i can'tl look right know i am installing the updates00:41
babblein any case, it looks like 2.2.0 is the last update for natty00:42
freec_yea i will make sure its that one before i install00:43
freec_thanks00:43
babbleit looks like whatever you're trying to install is conflicting with your installed libc - it should have flagged it as a dependency, but if it can't find the libc it's looking for, it *sounds* like the verison you're trying to install is a later (non-natty) release.00:43
babbleif you're on 64-bit, here's the 64-bit package:00:44
babblehttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/s/skype/skype_2.2.0.35-0natty1_amd64.deb00:44
freec_babble: in relation to that how can you find out if a machine running xubuntu is 32bit or 64 bit?00:46
babblein your terminal, do:00:47
babbleuname -a00:47
freec_What happend when you try installing a 64bit os on a 32bit os00:47
freec_?00:47
freec_32bit architecture*00:48
babbleit won't boot from the livecd00:48
babble(64 bit live image attempting to boot a 32-bit system)00:48
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uofm49426question i use docky and had to do a hard reset because because xbmc crashed on me i and the desktop was not responding so i drope down to termel and kill all xbmc and now when i login docky tell me something about compositing not working05:51
uofm49426using xubuntu 11.1005:52
holsteinuofm49426: probably had compositing on and it crashed too05:54
uofm49426on a fresh install docky dont require compiz up to work how can i fix this06:01
Sysiuofm49426: settings -> window manager tweaks -> compositing, enable06:24
mimoidwhat is newin Xubuntu 12.04?09:04
BelseruskHello.12:49
BelseruskHow can I Reboot or Shutdown from the Xubuntu 11.10 login screen.12:49
Belserusk?12:49
babbleBelserusk: there's a small power icon in the upper right, at the lightdm login screen12:50
babble(but it sometimes refuses to reboot for me - are you having trouble with that?)12:51
babbleargh. lag. brb.12:53
Belseruskbabble, I see it in Xubuntu 11.10 in VirtualBox but not on my Xubuntu 11.10 laptop installation. Thats odd!12:56
BelseruskHi babble. Any ideas?12:58
holsteinyou can always just login and do it from there.. mabye theres an issue with the login screen resolution not showing everything12:59
holsteinyou can go to tty via control+alt+F1 or F2 or whatever and run sudo shutdown -h now13:00
babbleoi. lag?13:02
babbleokay13:02
babble...or to reboot from the console do:13:02
babblesudo reboot13:02
Belseruskbabble, the login screen on my laptop is black - the login screen on virtualbox is different13:02
Belseruskbabble, on laptop on top right it does show visual icon13:03
babbleBelserusk: I'm not sure what may be happening, but my guess is holstein's: your laptop may be having video issues when running on the actual hardware.13:03
Belserusk...so resolutions is prob not the problem13:03
babbleBelserusk: on a VM, you're running on very generic shims that make generic video, network, etc.13:04
Belseruskbabble, I see. Thank you.13:04
Belseruskholstein, cheers for the tips.13:04
holsteinBelserusk: did you install from a live CD? do you have that available? boot up from it and logout.. see if you see what you expecty13:04
holsteinexpect*13:05
Belseruskholstein, I installed it from a USB pen drive13:05
babbleBelserusk: same process - does the live system do what you expect?13:06
holsteinBelserusk: OK.. if you'd like, as a troubleshooting step, assuming you used a live CD iso to create the USB stick you are informing me about, you can boot that live, logout, and see if you see what you expect to see13:06
Belseruskholstein, I will give it a go.13:06
Belseruskback later....13:07
holsteinthis will tell (pretty much) is its something you have configured incorrectly, or if its kernel/video/resolution related13:07
babbleargh. how many things am I going to break installing 32-bit pidgin on 64-bit 11.10, with all of its 32-bit dependencies?13:09
holsteinbabble: theres no 64bit one?13:09
holsteini personally hop through zero hoops for pidgin, and/or any other chat client13:09
babbleholstein: I'm using 64-bit, but there's a plugin I want to use that needs a 32-bit library13:09
holsteini might prefer the windows version in wine ;)13:11
babbleheh.13:11
babblethat's overkill for this.13:11
babbleoh well.13:11
Sysiinstall 32bit pidgin, with apt you should get dependencies, or you run it in terminal and install library when it reports something missing13:11
babbleSysi: yes, I know how to install 32-bit apps. That's not my issue.13:11
Sysiyou know, personal issues are -offtopic :P13:12
babbleSysi: This isn't a personal issue, unless you're convinced it needs to be, but that's arguably *your* personal issue.13:12
Sysifor some reason I have difficulties undertsnading you13:14
Sysi..something breaks when you install 32bit pidgin? :o13:14
holsteini think its more like "will installing 32bit pidgin in 64bit xubuntu break things"... i havent really messed with 32bit in 64bit yet, though i need to13:16
babblewhich is, yes, what I asked.13:16
holsteinlightscribe is something i have that is 32bit only for now...13:17
babbleIn any case, I wasn't asking for help installing, nor was I asking for things I wasn't asking for with regard to *how* to install 32-bit on 64-bit OS installations.13:17
babbleI was relatively clear13:17
Arthur_Danecdotal, but I've had no problems using 32 bit applications in a 64-bit environment13:18
babbleArthur_D: I'm using 32-bit Secondlife.13:18
babbleArthur_D: again, my issue isn't *how* to do this.13:18
babblebut this is getting ridiculous.13:18
Arthur_Dyou asked whether it would break things?13:18
babbleand we're going 'round and 'round with things I didn't ask for any information or assistance with.13:19
Arthur_Dsorry, just wondered if I could help somehow13:20
DemonWitchHow can i mount a bin/cue image in ubuntu?13:39
babbleassuming your images are iso9660 filesystems on a .cue image, try:13:40
babblehere's a howto: http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/mount_bin_cue_cdemu13:41
babblelooks like it depends on installing cdemu13:41
babblebut, I haven't had to specify a filesystem (9660) type for ISO images since 11.1013:42
babblehave you tried this:13:43
babblesudo mount /path/to/image.cue /path/to/mountpoint13:43
DemonWitchbabble: its binary13:43
DemonWitchimage13:43
babbleDemonWitch: yes; my point is, the mount command in 11.10 mounts all manner of binary image types for me, without a lot of extra fiddling.13:44
babbleISO, SquashFS, dd raw images.13:44
babbletry:13:44
babblesudo mount /path/to/image.bin /path/to/mountpoint13:44
DemonWitchbabble: ok do i need cdemu?13:45
DemonWitchor any program13:45
babbleYou may or may not. That howto I found is fairly old.13:45
babbleTry just using mount first.13:45
babbleif it fails, we'll find a workaround.13:45
Belseruskbabble, holstein - I don't have the Xubuntu 11.10 image on neither a CD nor USB drive. I will upgrade the distro next week so it is no big deal. Cheers.13:59
babbleBelserusk: in any case, switch to your console and reboot or shutdown from there, in the meantime.14:00
babbleit's a little more work, but it should work.14:00
babbleinstead of logging completely out, have you tried using the Logout command from the apps menu?14:01
babbleYou should be able to shutdown or reboot from the xfce4-logout dialog14:01
Belseruskbabble, Ok.14:02
Belseruskbabble, I know of them but was just curious about the login screen method.14:03
babblewhat do you get if you do:14:03
Belseruskbabble, cheers.14:03
babblexfce4-session-logout?14:03
babbleahh, okay14:03
babblewell, it sounds like it's an odd video issue, but without testing from a live image, it's tricky to say14:04
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F3lix_Hello ^^17:33
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bewilderedhi19:17
newbie|3hi19:45
baizonhi hi19:45
newbie|3Very dead channel19:46
baizonindeed :)19:46
martinphonedoes any of you use ibus or scim?19:46
baizonits for problems only :P19:46
baizonso its good19:46
newbie|3Yeah that is good... guess a problem has arisen19:46
martinphoneI have ibus installed, but I dont see any language package19:47
martinphoneand I dont know exactly what synaptic packages to get: If I mark every ibus package, that ammounts for 0.5GB19:48
baizonsorry dont use it, cant help19:50
Artemis3martinphone, which language you want?19:51
martinphonechinese and korean19:51
martinphoneArtemis3,19:51
Artemis3i never used ibus, but anthy uim and the appropiate fonts work, of course you could also install extra language files if you need the interface as well19:53
martinphoneArtemis3, should I use scim?19:54
Artemis3if you like19:54
Artemis3i rather use anthy with uim :)19:54
martinphoneuim?19:54
Artemis3like scim19:55
Artemis3but another19:55
Artemis3:)19:55
martinphoneArtemis3, official here? http://uim.freedesktop.org/wiki/19:56
Artemis3see uim packages19:56
Artemis3uim is the backend and anthy for frontend19:56
Artemis3maybe you like anthy with scim instead19:57
martinphoneArtemis3, i like everyone that works, back in ubuntu 11.10 (2 weeks ago) I couldnt switch from japanese to any other input method, and I still dont know if it was because my installation was so buggy, or because bugs from ibus itself19:59
martinphoneeverything*19:59
Artemis3if you install uim and anthy, you add uim-toolbar-gtk-systray to starting apps and thats it. you can add more uim modules for korean and chinese20:00
Artemis3ubuntu defaults to scim i believe20:00
martinphoneill take a look at them and go for the most recently updated20:00
Artemis3scim and uim do the same, and both can use anthy20:01
martinphoneim going for uim 1.8.0, for xubuntu, should I get the tar.gz or tar.bz2?20:01
Artemis3both scim and uim have extra packages for more languages20:01
martinphoneyes Artemis3 , thats the theory, but, as of now with IBUS; I have to click five time each language for the applet to change the IM20:01
Artemis3why do you need the latest? is something wrong with package from repository?20:02
martinphonexubuntu 12.04 beta2 64 bit20:02
Artemis3this is why you need anthy20:02
martinphoneI assume the latests is the least buggy,20:02
Artemis3with anthy you can configure another shortcut20:02
martinphonethe less buggy or the least buggy?20:02
Artemis3try anthy with scim if you want, or try uim you might like it20:03
martinphone탈.ㄱz 올 탈.ㅂz2?20:03
martinphonecrap20:03
Artemis3there is uim-anthy AND scim-anthy, pick one20:04
martinphonetar.gz or tar.bz2?20:04
Artemis3you should avoid downloading package from their page, and use distro package instead20:04
martinphoneuim from synaptic is so old...20:05
Artemis3test: 〒 this is using anthy and uim20:05
Artemis3uim from 12.04 old???20:05
Artemis3let me check20:05
martinphonelatest uim from source is 1.8, from synaptic is 1.1.720:06
Artemis3no its 1.7 not 1.1.7 don't be confused with debian nomenclature20:07
Artemis31:1.7.1-3ubuntu1 = 1.720:07
martinphoneaaa....20:07
Artemis3it is very current20:07
Artemis3what you need is to add anthy20:07
Artemis3and use anthy gui instead20:08
Artemis3you can then define shortcuts20:08
martinphoneanthy is added20:08
Artemis3check uim-anthy package20:09
Artemis3also anthy package20:09
martinphonedone20:09
Artemis3install, then try from terminal uim-toolbar-gtk-systray for a test20:10
martinphonedo I get rid of IBUS first?20:10
Artemis3you will see an icon you can click to change things20:10
Artemis3well i have no experience with ibus, but i think it is better to have only 1 not 3 input backends :)20:11
Artemis3but try first20:11
martinphoneok, i see it it works20:12
Artemis3by default i have it shift space to switch20:12
Artemis3instead of ctrl space, but you can change that20:12
martinphoneyes, like in ibus20:12
martinphoneo right20:12
martinphonewait, is this only for japanese?20:13
Artemis3no, you can add more languages20:14
Artemis3if you installed uim, you can add package called, uim-hangul20:15
Artemis3see packages uim-20:15
BelseruskHi babble, holstein.20:19
martinphone我不知道20:20
martinphonethis was with ibus, now it seems to work20:20
martinphoneI thin UIM is not difficult but time consuming to change20:20
martinphonethink20:20
martinphonethanks for the tips Artemis3 but now IBUS seems to work, and I need a quick way to switch from english to chinese and korean (thats the minimum) and sometimes some japanese. German and french dont count, due to alphabetic system20:27
Artemis3hmm20:28
Artemis3there is ibus-anthy, maybe you can uninstall uim and just use that20:28
Artemis3martinphone20:29
Artemis3switchiing with anthy is very easy, you can have many languages20:29
martinphoneok, ill unistall uim and make a sudo apt-get autoremove20:30
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Guest75606Xubuntu 12.04 BUG:  A window titled "Launch Error" pops up which says: Did not receive a replt. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.20:59
CellTechOk. I hate this clock set up. How can I get ti:me and Da/te :)21:06
knomeright-click clock -> preferences ?21:07
pleia2CellTech: using Orage clock?21:07
CellTechThe stock clock in xubuntu 10.0421:07
pleia2change "Line 1" to use the right variables21:08
pleia2can look them up via: man strftime21:08
CellTechIt's the one that uses the %M stuff21:08
pleia2yeah21:09
CellTechIt's annoying as hell. I don't care about seconds. I want the date calender thing21:09
pleia2so probably something like %R %d/%b21:09
CellTechI'll try that21:10
CellTechWorked. Only problem is. Now it's in metric time21:11
pleia2use %I rather than %R21:11
CellTechI just used a lower case r and it worked21:12
pleia2ah, there you go :)21:12
CellTechit's fixed. Thank you fella21:12
pleia2not a fella, but you're welcome :)21:12
CellTechdamn irc names. can't tell whos a what and whats a who :)21:12
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xubuntu182???21:33
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ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:34
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tbrown2012When does Xubuntu 12.10 or something come out!23:59

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