[00:32] <freec_> i'm trying to install skype on this fresh new install of xubuntu 11.04 and its telling me it must remove this: libc-bin, its written ESSENTIAL next to it
[00:32] <freec_> what is this?
[00:32] <freec_> and should i go on with installing skype
[00:32] <babble> freec_: did you manually download the 386 version of skype from skype.com?
[00:33] <freec_> no
[00:33] <freec_> babble: no
[00:33] <babble> what, specifically are you trying to install? Which skype package?
[00:35] <freec_> skype :i...
[00:35] <freec_> in the synaptic
[00:36] <freec_> i havn't done an the updates yet
[00:36] <babble> there isn't an official skype client for Natty in the repo
[00:36] <freec_> i'm wondering if that could have an effect
[00:36] <freec_> is the're not?
[00:36] <babble> see here:
[00:36] <babble> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=skype&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[00:36] <freec_> i have cannonical partners selected
[00:36] <babble> there are add-ons that work WITH skype, but there isn't a repo-managed package for the skype client itself.
[00:37] <babble> it may be that the skype package in the partner repo is newer than you can install on natty.
[00:37] <babble> let me see what I can find.
[00:37] <freec_> yea thats what i'm thinking now...
[00:40] <babble> try this:
[00:40] <babble> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/s/skype/skype_2.2.0.35-0natty1_i386.deb
[00:41] <babble> (what's the version number on the package you're trying to install?)
[00:41] <freec_> i can'tl look right know i am installing the updates
[00:42] <babble> in any case, it looks like 2.2.0 is the last update for natty
[00:43] <freec_> yea i will make sure its that one before i install
[00:43] <freec_> thanks
[00:43] <babble> it looks like whatever you're trying to install is conflicting with your installed libc - it should have flagged it as a dependency, but if it can't find the libc it's looking for, it *sounds* like the verison you're trying to install is a later (non-natty) release.
[00:44] <babble> if you're on 64-bit, here's the 64-bit package:
[00:44] <babble> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/s/skype/skype_2.2.0.35-0natty1_amd64.deb
[00:46] <freec_> babble: in relation to that how can you find out if a machine running xubuntu is 32bit or 64 bit?
[00:47] <babble> in your terminal, do:
[00:47] <babble> uname -a
[00:47] <freec_> What happend when you try installing a 64bit os on a 32bit os
[00:47] <freec_> ?
[00:48] <freec_> 32bit architecture*
[00:48] <babble> it won't boot from the livecd
[00:48] <babble> (64 bit live image attempting to boot a 32-bit system)
[05:51] <uofm49426> question i use docky and had to do a hard reset because because xbmc crashed on me i and the desktop was not responding so i drope down to termel and kill all xbmc and now when i login docky tell me something about compositing not working
[05:52] <uofm49426> using xubuntu 11.10
[05:54] <holstein> uofm49426: probably had compositing on and it crashed too
[06:01] <uofm49426> on a fresh install docky dont require compiz up to work how can i fix this
[06:24] <Sysi> uofm49426: settings -> window manager tweaks -> compositing, enable
[09:04] <mimoid> what is newin Xubuntu 12.04?
[12:49] <Belserusk> Hello.
[12:49] <Belserusk> How can I Reboot or Shutdown from the Xubuntu 11.10 login screen.
[12:49] <Belserusk> ?
[12:50] <babble> Belserusk: there's a small power icon in the upper right, at the lightdm login screen
[12:51] <babble> (but it sometimes refuses to reboot for me - are you having trouble with that?)
[12:53] <babble> argh. lag. brb.
[12:56] <Belserusk> babble, I see it in Xubuntu 11.10 in VirtualBox but not on my Xubuntu 11.10 laptop installation. Thats odd!
[12:58] <Belserusk> Hi babble. Any ideas?
[12:59] <holstein> you can always just login and do it from there.. mabye theres an issue with the login screen resolution not showing everything
[13:00] <holstein> you can go to tty via control+alt+F1 or F2 or whatever and run sudo shutdown -h now
[13:02] <babble> oi. lag?
[13:02] <babble> okay
[13:02] <babble> ...or to reboot from the console do:
[13:02] <babble> sudo reboot
[13:02] <Belserusk> babble, the login screen on my laptop is black - the login screen on virtualbox is different
[13:03] <Belserusk> babble, on laptop on top right it does show visual icon
[13:03] <babble> Belserusk: I'm not sure what may be happening, but my guess is holstein's: your laptop may be having video issues when running on the actual hardware.
[13:03] <Belserusk> ...so resolutions is prob not the problem
[13:04] <babble> Belserusk: on a VM, you're running on very generic shims that make generic video, network, etc.
[13:04] <Belserusk> babble, I see. Thank you.
[13:04] <Belserusk> holstein, cheers for the tips.
[13:04] <holstein> Belserusk: did you install from a live CD? do you have that available? boot up from it and logout.. see if you see what you expecty
[13:05] <holstein> expect*
[13:05] <Belserusk> holstein, I installed it from a USB pen drive
[13:06] <babble> Belserusk: same process - does the live system do what you expect?
[13:06] <holstein> Belserusk: OK.. if you'd like, as a troubleshooting step, assuming you used a live CD iso to create the USB stick you are informing me about, you can boot that live, logout, and see if you see what you expect to see
[13:06] <Belserusk> holstein, I will give it a go.
[13:07] <Belserusk> back later....
[13:07] <holstein> this will tell (pretty much) is its something you have configured incorrectly, or if its kernel/video/resolution related
[13:09] <babble> argh. how many things am I going to break installing 32-bit pidgin on 64-bit 11.10, with all of its 32-bit dependencies?
[13:09] <holstein> babble: theres no 64bit one?
[13:09] <holstein> i personally hop through zero hoops for pidgin, and/or any other chat client
[13:09] <babble> holstein: I'm using 64-bit, but there's a plugin I want to use that needs a 32-bit library
[13:11] <holstein> i might prefer the windows version in wine ;)
[13:11] <babble> heh.
[13:11] <babble> that's overkill for this.
[13:11] <babble> oh well.
[13:11] <Sysi> install 32bit pidgin, with apt you should get dependencies, or you run it in terminal and install library when it reports something missing
[13:11] <babble> Sysi: yes, I know how to install 32-bit apps. That's not my issue.
[13:12] <Sysi> you know, personal issues are -offtopic :P
[13:12] <babble> Sysi: This isn't a personal issue, unless you're convinced it needs to be, but that's arguably *your* personal issue.
[13:14] <Sysi> for some reason I have difficulties undertsnading you
[13:14] <Sysi> ..something breaks when you install 32bit pidgin? :o
[13:16] <holstein> i think its more like "will installing 32bit pidgin in 64bit xubuntu break things"... i havent really messed with 32bit in 64bit yet, though i need to
[13:16] <babble> which is, yes, what I asked.
[13:17] <holstein> lightscribe is something i have that is 32bit only for now...
[13:17] <babble> In any case, I wasn't asking for help installing, nor was I asking for things I wasn't asking for with regard to *how* to install 32-bit on 64-bit OS installations.
[13:17] <babble> I was relatively clear
[13:18] <Arthur_D> anecdotal, but I've had no problems using 32 bit applications in a 64-bit environment
[13:18] <babble> Arthur_D: I'm using 32-bit Secondlife.
[13:18] <babble> Arthur_D: again, my issue isn't *how* to do this.
[13:18] <babble> but this is getting ridiculous.
[13:18] <Arthur_D> you asked whether it would break things?
[13:19] <babble> and we're going 'round and 'round with things I didn't ask for any information or assistance with.
[13:20] <Arthur_D> sorry, just wondered if I could help somehow
[13:39] <DemonWitch> How can i mount a bin/cue image in ubuntu?
[13:40] <babble> assuming your images are iso9660 filesystems on a .cue image, try:
[13:41] <babble> here's a howto: http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/mount_bin_cue_cdemu
[13:41] <babble> looks like it depends on installing cdemu
[13:42] <babble> but, I haven't had to specify a filesystem (9660) type for ISO images since 11.10
[13:43] <babble> have you tried this:
[13:43] <babble> sudo mount /path/to/image.cue /path/to/mountpoint
[13:43] <DemonWitch> babble: its binary
[13:43] <DemonWitch> image
[13:44] <babble> DemonWitch: yes; my point is, the mount command in 11.10 mounts all manner of binary image types for me, without a lot of extra fiddling.
[13:44] <babble> ISO, SquashFS, dd raw images.
[13:44] <babble> try:
[13:44] <babble> sudo mount /path/to/image.bin /path/to/mountpoint
[13:45] <DemonWitch> babble: ok do i need cdemu?
[13:45] <DemonWitch> or any program
[13:45] <babble> You may or may not. That howto I found is fairly old.
[13:45] <babble> Try just using mount first.
[13:45] <babble> if it fails, we'll find a workaround.
[13:59] <Belserusk> babble, holstein - I don't have the Xubuntu 11.10 image on neither a CD nor USB drive. I will upgrade the distro next week so it is no big deal. Cheers.
[14:00] <babble> Belserusk: in any case, switch to your console and reboot or shutdown from there, in the meantime.
[14:00] <babble> it's a little more work, but it should work.
[14:01] <babble> instead of logging completely out, have you tried using the Logout command from the apps menu?
[14:01] <babble> You should be able to shutdown or reboot from the xfce4-logout dialog
[14:02] <Belserusk> babble, Ok.
[14:03] <Belserusk> babble, I know of them but was just curious about the login screen method.
[14:03] <babble> what do you get if you do:
[14:03] <Belserusk> babble, cheers.
[14:03] <babble> xfce4-session-logout?
[14:03] <babble> ahh, okay
[14:04] <babble> well, it sounds like it's an odd video issue, but without testing from a live image, it's tricky to say
[17:33] <F3lix_> Hello ^^
[19:17] <bewildered> hi
[19:45] <newbie|3> hi
[19:45] <baizon> hi hi
[19:46] <newbie|3> Very dead channel
[19:46] <baizon> indeed :)
[19:46] <martinphone> does any of you use ibus or scim?
[19:46] <baizon> its for problems only :P
[19:46] <baizon> so its good
[19:46] <newbie|3> Yeah that is good... guess a problem has arisen
[19:47] <martinphone> I have ibus installed, but I dont see any language package
[19:48] <martinphone> and I dont know exactly what synaptic packages to get: If I mark every ibus package, that ammounts for 0.5GB
[19:50] <baizon> sorry dont use it, cant help
[19:51] <Artemis3> martinphone, which language you want?
[19:51] <martinphone> chinese and korean
[19:51] <martinphone> Artemis3,
[19:53] <Artemis3> i never used ibus, but anthy uim and the appropiate fonts work, of course you could also install extra language files if you need the interface as well
[19:54] <martinphone> Artemis3, should I use scim?
[19:54] <Artemis3> if you like
[19:54] <Artemis3> i rather use anthy with uim :)
[19:54] <martinphone> uim?
[19:55] <Artemis3> like scim
[19:55] <Artemis3> but another
[19:55] <Artemis3> :)
[19:56] <martinphone> Artemis3, official here? http://uim.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[19:56] <Artemis3> see uim packages
[19:56] <Artemis3> uim is the backend and anthy for frontend
[19:57] <Artemis3> maybe you like anthy with scim instead
[19:59] <martinphone> Artemis3, i like everyone that works, back in ubuntu 11.10 (2 weeks ago) I couldnt switch from japanese to any other input method, and I still dont know if it was because my installation was so buggy, or because bugs from ibus itself
[19:59] <martinphone> everything*
[20:00] <Artemis3> if you install uim and anthy, you add uim-toolbar-gtk-systray to starting apps and thats it. you can add more uim modules for korean and chinese
[20:00] <Artemis3> ubuntu defaults to scim i believe
[20:00] <martinphone> ill take a look at them and go for the most recently updated
[20:01] <Artemis3> scim and uim do the same, and both can use anthy
[20:01] <martinphone> im going for uim 1.8.0, for xubuntu, should I get the tar.gz or tar.bz2?
[20:01] <Artemis3> both scim and uim have extra packages for more languages
[20:01] <martinphone> yes Artemis3 , thats the theory, but, as of now with IBUS; I have to click five time each language for the applet to change the IM
[20:02] <Artemis3> why do you need the latest? is something wrong with package from repository?
[20:02] <martinphone> xubuntu 12.04 beta2 64 bit
[20:02] <Artemis3> this is why you need anthy
[20:02] <martinphone> I assume the latests is the least buggy,
[20:02] <Artemis3> with anthy you can configure another shortcut
[20:02] <martinphone> the less buggy or the least buggy?
[20:03] <Artemis3> try anthy with scim if you want, or try uim you might like it
[20:03] <martinphone> 탈.ㄱz 올 탈.ㅂz2?
[20:03] <martinphone> crap
[20:04] <Artemis3> there is uim-anthy AND scim-anthy, pick one
[20:04] <martinphone> tar.gz or tar.bz2?
[20:04] <Artemis3> you should avoid downloading package from their page, and use distro package instead
[20:05] <martinphone> uim from synaptic is so old...
[20:05] <Artemis3> test: 〒 this is using anthy and uim
[20:05] <Artemis3> uim from 12.04 old???
[20:05] <Artemis3> let me check
[20:06] <martinphone> latest uim from source is 1.8, from synaptic is 1.1.7
[20:07] <Artemis3> no its 1.7 not 1.1.7 don't be confused with debian nomenclature
[20:07] <Artemis3> 1:1.7.1-3ubuntu1 = 1.7
[20:07] <martinphone> aaa....
[20:07] <Artemis3> it is very current
[20:07] <Artemis3> what you need is to add anthy
[20:08] <Artemis3> and use anthy gui instead
[20:08] <Artemis3> you can then define shortcuts
[20:08] <martinphone> anthy is added
[20:09] <Artemis3> check uim-anthy package
[20:09] <Artemis3> also anthy package
[20:09] <martinphone> done
[20:10] <Artemis3> install, then try from terminal uim-toolbar-gtk-systray for a test
[20:10] <martinphone> do I get rid of IBUS first?
[20:10] <Artemis3> you will see an icon you can click to change things
[20:11] <Artemis3> well i have no experience with ibus, but i think it is better to have only 1 not 3 input backends :)
[20:11] <Artemis3> but try first
[20:12] <martinphone> ok, i see it it works
[20:12] <Artemis3> by default i have it shift space to switch
[20:12] <Artemis3> instead of ctrl space, but you can change that
[20:12] <martinphone> yes, like in ibus
[20:12] <martinphone> o right
[20:13] <martinphone> wait, is this only for japanese?
[20:14] <Artemis3> no, you can add more languages
[20:15] <Artemis3> if you installed uim, you can add package called, uim-hangul
[20:15] <Artemis3> see packages uim-
[20:19] <Belserusk> Hi babble, holstein.
[20:20] <martinphone> 我不知道
[20:20] <martinphone> this was with ibus, now it seems to work
[20:20] <martinphone> I thin UIM is not difficult but time consuming to change
[20:20] <martinphone> think
[20:27] <martinphone> thanks for the tips Artemis3 but now IBUS seems to work, and I need a quick way to switch from english to chinese and korean (thats the minimum) and sometimes some japanese. German and french dont count, due to alphabetic system
[20:28] <Artemis3> hmm
[20:28] <Artemis3> there is ibus-anthy, maybe you can uninstall uim and just use that
[20:29] <Artemis3> martinphone
[20:29] <Artemis3> switchiing with anthy is very easy, you can have many languages
[20:30] <martinphone> ok, ill unistall uim and make a sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:59] <Guest75606> Xubuntu 12.04 BUG:  A window titled "Launch Error" pops up which says: Did not receive a replt. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[21:06] <CellTech> Ok. I hate this clock set up. How can I get ti:me and Da/te :)
[21:07] <knome> right-click clock -> preferences ?
[21:07] <pleia2> CellTech: using Orage clock?
[21:07] <CellTech> The stock clock in xubuntu 10.04
[21:08] <pleia2> change "Line 1" to use the right variables
[21:08] <pleia2> can look them up via: man strftime
[21:08] <CellTech> It's the one that uses the %M stuff
[21:09] <pleia2> yeah
[21:09] <CellTech> It's annoying as hell. I don't care about seconds. I want the date calender thing
[21:09] <pleia2> so probably something like %R %d/%b
[21:10] <CellTech> I'll try that
[21:11] <CellTech> Worked. Only problem is. Now it's in metric time
[21:11] <pleia2> use %I rather than %R
[21:12] <CellTech> I just used a lower case r and it worked
[21:12] <pleia2> ah, there you go :)
[21:12] <CellTech> it's fixed. Thank you fella
[21:12] <pleia2> not a fella, but you're welcome :)
[21:12] <CellTech> damn irc names. can't tell whos a what and whats a who :)
[21:32] <xubuntu182> hello chan
[21:33] <xubuntu182> is international or italian chan
[21:33] <xubuntu182> ???
[21:34] <Unit193> !it
[21:34] <xubuntu182> tks uni193 ave a greats night
[23:59] <tbrown2012> When does Xubuntu 12.10 or something come out!