[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:07] <BluesKaj> kmail keeps crahing , but I'm sure a bug has been posted ...i haven't checked yet
[12:07] <BluesKaj> er crashing
[12:13] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hmmm, in what situation it do crash?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, usually when trying to open an email in the inbox
[12:16] <Tm_T> some particular mail? or any kind of mail?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> I prefer opening in a separate page , so usually double click , that's when it crashes
[12:20] <Tm_T> but any kind of mail? html or plaintext?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> html
[12:31] <Tm_T> so no crashes with plaintext mails? interesting
[12:31] <Tm_T> please report it with drkonqi
[12:47] <rbelem> Riddell, if you remove kubuntu-default-settings from KDEDIRS for kubuntu-active it starts much faster
[12:48] <Riddell> rbelem: hmm interesting
[12:48] <Riddell> but too late for 12.04 I think
[12:48] <Riddell> keep it in mind for future, we can target next release to get the tech preview label off
[12:53] <rbelem> Riddell, oki
[13:23] <Riddell> hmm what to put in this week's release team meeting report?
[13:34] <d__ed> Great job on precise guys! I just upgraded my laptop, and it feels soo much faster - even though I was running 4.8.2 from backports before.
[13:34] <d__ed> No idea how you've managed it, just wanted to say "Well done!"
[13:34] <Riddell> :)
[13:35] <Riddell> well when you're as tallented as the Kubuntu contributors these things come naturally :)
[13:36] <Riddell> of course the rest of ubuntu may take some credit too, plenty of changes under the GUI level
[13:37] <d__ed> no, just take the compliment already.
[13:38] <Riddell> true true, we're a collection of geneuses
[13:38] <Riddell> or is that spelt geniuses?
[13:39] <d__ed> geniuses. 
[13:39] <d__ed> or possibly "genii"
[13:39] <d__ed> arguably a genius would know.
[13:39] <Riddell> ah pseudo latin plurals, a certain way to make people think you're clever
[13:40] <d__ed> did it work?
[13:40] <Riddell> bound to, it can be our slogan for next cycle "Kubuntu: made by genii"
[13:41] <d__ed> +1 from me.
[13:41] <Riddell> it works for my canoe club, the motto is in nonsense pseudo latin and we're been winning medals for the last 80 years :)
[13:41] <d__ed> I'm rather excited by 12.10, it'll have loads of my stuff breaking it.
[13:42] <Riddell> telepathy?  lightdm?
[13:42] <d__ed> yep
[13:42] <d__ed> and yep :)
[13:42] <vprints> anybody here using at least one of "ÖÕÜÄ" letters daily in their alphabet ?
[13:42] <Riddell> jussi speaks Finish?
[13:43] <Riddell> germans like their umlouts but I don't know if they use them for capitals
[13:43] <vprints> finnish and german should match, yes
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Riddell, with a name like jussi , I would expect him to speak Finnish
[13:44] <vprints> i have this strange thing happening when installing 12.04 and writing user's name then theses letters do not display correctly
[13:44] <vprints> ÄÖÕÜ letters
[13:45] <Riddell> display where?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> john=jussi , with Canadians of Finnish descent at least
[13:46] <vprints> in ubiquity
[13:46] <Riddell> vprints: so on the user account setup page you can't type capitol letters with umlouts?
[13:47] <vprints> dosen't matter if capital or small
[13:47] <vprints> i will make a screenshot
[13:47] <Riddell> what's the keyboard setting?
[13:47] <vprints> estonian
[13:48] <Riddell> and can you type those letters elsewhere?  (it is a problem with the keyboard layout?)
[13:51] <vprints> it is during install, where else should i type them ?
[13:51] <Riddell> on a live CD you can press alt-f2 and run any programme such as Kate
[13:52] <vprints> or you mean that i should start the live mode, then start the installer, not installer directly
[13:52] <vprints> ok, will try that
[13:52] <Riddell> that would allow for more testing yes
[13:52] <shadeslayer> how interesting, rekonq grew Google Bookmark support
[13:52] <vprints> cool, thanks
[13:55] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, do you mean chromium
[13:55] <shadeslayer> no, I mean rekonq
[13:55] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:56] <BluesKaj> google bookmark ?
[13:56] <shadeslayer> they had a sync API in the 0.9 release, was a matter of time someone did the Google Bookmarks support
[13:56] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yes
[13:56] <shadeslayer> it can now save bookmarks in Google's cloud
[13:56] <shadeslayer> afaik you can access Google Bookmarks using their docs api
[13:56] <BluesKaj> what google bookmarks ...where they located?
[13:57] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: uh, say if you bookmark a page, it gets sync'd to Google Docs, and then you can retrieve them when you sign into another browser somewhere else
[13:59] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, ok , never used google bookmarks , ok thanks
[14:00] <shadeslayer> ah
[14:00] <shadeslayer> Was specific to Google Chrome/Chromium
[14:00] <BluesKaj> just bookmarks in chromium imported from FF
[14:09] <agateau> rbelem: late ping, new lightdm-kde is in universe, in case you missed it :)
[14:11] <Riddell> agateau: and looking good too, no more plasma bugs on the line edits
[14:11] <agateau> Riddell: really? I still have them :/
[14:12] <agateau> Riddell: which theme are you using
[14:12] <agateau> ?
[14:13] <Riddell> agateau: um dunno, how do I find out?
[14:14] <agateau> Riddell: from the kcm
[14:14] <agateau> Riddell: does it show two line edits or user faces?
[14:14] <Riddell> "classic"
[14:14] <Riddell> two line edits
[14:14] <Riddell> no blue bars on them
[14:14] <agateau> ah right, this one is fixed
[14:14] <agateau> but I still have some blurry borders
[14:15] <agateau> maybe more visible with the "userbar" theme
[14:15] <agateau> or maybe it's just me not having 4.8.2 installed yet (just started a dist-upgrade)
[14:16] <david__> agateau: we need to update "User List" to Plasma Components at some point too
[14:16] <d_ed> I'll sort out "Classic"
[14:16] <agateau> d_ed: indeed, I have been neglecting it for a while. Need to finish it.
[14:17] <agateau> d_ed: you may want to get the version of TextField I have in "User Bar": it fixes keyboard handling
[14:17]  * agateau needs to file review requests to get the fixes back in plasma
[14:17] <d_ed> yeah, I saw you were overriding them.
[14:17] <d_ed> onAccepted was fixed in 4.8.1
[14:17] <d_ed> though plasma components in general need a bit of a kick.
[14:18] <d_ed> would be good to get this all fixed for 4.9, so we don't need hacks
[14:18] <agateau> agreed
[14:18] <agateau> have you seen the fixes I did on ToolButton as well
[14:18] <agateau> ?
[14:18] <d_ed> no.
[14:18] <d_ed> is there any component you didn't have to fix.
[14:18] <d_ed> *?
[14:18] <rbelem> thanks agateau :-)
[14:19] <agateau> d_ed: FrameSvgItem :)
[14:19] <agateau> rbelem: you're welcome
[14:20] <d_ed> though that's not a component, that's in PlasmaCore...
[14:20] <d_ed> so... all of them (except Label perhaps)
[16:05] <jussi> Riddell: whats up? I know some finnish, and Tm_T is around also I guess
[16:08] <Darkwing> agateau: ping
[16:47] <shadeslayer> @_@
[16:47] <shadeslayer> ISO downloading at 6 KBps
[16:53] <BluesKaj> whoa , rekonq needs some work ...it's a mess on a large monitor , not adapting well to 1920x1080
[17:09] <jussi> shadeslayer: ouch
[17:10]  * Darkwing cheers
[17:10] <shadeslayer> jussi: better now, about 80 KBps
[17:10] <Darkwing> I'm getting new servers :D
[17:10] <jussi> Darkwing: congrats
[17:11] <Darkwing> Buddy of mine is upgrading the servers at work. They were going to toss the old two but, he is donating them to me instead.
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Darkwing: specs?
[17:11] <Darkwing> Don't know yet.
[17:11] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:12] <shadeslayer> I lost my local server recently :P
[17:12] <Darkwing> I should know today.
[17:54] <ryanakca> With a split inside of align, is there any way to align the eqno with the top line of split instead of with the middle of the split environment?
[17:54] <ryanakca> Ooops, wrong channel
[17:59]  * jussi hugs ryanakca
[18:16] <mterry> Hello!  Is the KDE session file /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop or kde-plasma.desktop?
[18:19] <tsimpson> mterry: kde-plasma.desktop
[18:20] <mterry> tsimpson, yar, and I just found out on packages.ubuntu.com that kde.desktop doesn't seem to have been used recently.  :-/  unity-greeter was looking for kde.desktop for some reason.  will fix
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ping
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I was looking at the kcometen4 armhf FTBFS
[19:02] <shadeslayer> what I don't understand is this : http://packages.debian.org/sid/armhf/kcometen4
[19:02] <shadeslayer> The version is 1.0.7-1+b1 ... and I don't see any way to download that version
[19:21]  * ryanakca hugs jussi back
[19:22] <Tm_T> jussi: what about finnish?
[20:24] <skaet> Riddell, ScottK, and others interested... ;)  New Kubuntu images are emerging on the tracker
[20:36] <jussi> bah, does the spacer have to be visible? :/ 
[20:48] <snele> Guys I hope you are aware of this bug on precise: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58340-Yellow-light-bulb-icon-Bug-light
[21:07] <ScottK> skaet: Thanks.  Will try to have a look tonight.
[21:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: +b1 is a binNMU version.  Take the +b1 off and that's the source version you want.
[21:08] <skaet> ScottK,  can you spread the word not to do update testing with these images though.  we just found a regression on the updates from oneiric.
[21:08] <skaet> fix is being worked on and tested now.
[21:09] <jussi> did oxygen style disappear or am I just missing something? 
[21:10] <Angelforget>  Kubuntu 4.12 Beta 2 is great compliment to all the staff
[21:11] <Angelforget> sorry kubuntu 12.04