[02:04] <deper29> hey, I'm having trouble. if i try to ssh to my desktop, it doesn't let me ssh the hostname, I have to ssh its IP address. Looking in my router settings, the hostname doesn't show up. any idea why that might be?
[02:07] <tsimpson> unless you want to set up a DNS server, your best bet is to just edit your /etc/hosts file and add the host manually
[02:08] <tsimpson> or, if you have avahi working, try appending .local to the hostname
[02:08] <tsimpson> so ssh somehost.local
[02:09] <Unit193> You can also setup your ~/.ssh/config file if you'd like.
[02:09] <deper29> tsimpson, thanks for replying. If I open my /etc/hosts file on my desktop(what I want to ssh to) I see that 127.0.0.1 is localhost, and 127.0.1.1 is fermat(name of computer)
[02:10] <deper29> or are you saying to add the host to my laptop and throw the ip as 192.168.1.138?
[02:10] <tsimpson> exactly, just add the hostname for the desktop and put in the IP address
[02:12] <deper29> perfect. did that and it works beautifully :) so i'd have to do that for all computers on my LAN?
[02:12] <tsimpson> generally, that's the easiest way
[02:12] <tsimpson> as long as all the computers get the same IPs
[02:13] <deper29> gotcha. unless I hard reset my router, I'm good
[02:13] <tsimpson> for other Ubuntu boxes, or even Mac, you should be able to use the avahi-style hosts
[02:13] <deper29> i'm not familiar with avahi
[02:15] <tsimpson> avahi/bonjour/zeroconf is a network with "zero" configuration, each machine broadcasts what services they offer, and their IPs, over the network. avahi is the software that deals with that
[02:16] <deper29> ah, I see. just reading up on it now :)
[02:16] <deper29>  I don't seem to have a config in .ssh
[02:17] <tsimpson> well, you don't need one there
[02:18] <deper29> but I could set one up?
[02:18] <tsimpson> you could put a ssh config there, if you wanted. but I don't really know why you'd need to
[02:19] <deper29> fair enough :P
[02:19] <deper29> well thanks again for helping with that! my vpn is finally set up the way I want it :)
[02:20] <tsimpson> sure, the default config in /etc/ssh are sane enough for most
[02:20] <deper29> I could add something to that though instead?
[02:21] <tsimpson> sure, but make sure you read the documentation
[02:21] <deper29> of course :)
[02:21] <tsimpson> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/ssh_config.5.html should tell you what to put in ~/.ssh/config
[02:22] <deper29> thanks for this too
[02:23] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[02:24] <deper29> now that my hours of procrastination are up though, I must go study finally. thanks a bunch again! the ubuntu community has been great to me
[02:25] <tsimpson> glad you're enjoying the community :)
[05:31] <OutOfControl> Afternoon all
[09:59] <r4y> I want to know if Ubuntu 12.04 is considered stable and worth using compared to 10.04 which I guess all sepends on what it is used for. I mean should I wait till some next release of 12.04 to come out. I don't want to be a tester.
[09:59] <r4y> Is it offical?
[10:00] <r4y> I mean for Desktop.
[10:00] <bioterror> wait couple of weeks after 12.04 is officially released
[10:00] <bioterror> and then hit the upgrade
[10:00] <r4y> OK, thank you, I am sorry I had to ask.
[10:00] <bioterror> usually .1 releases are the stable ones
[10:00] <bioterror> you know like 12.04.1 ;)
[10:00] <r4y> OK, I didn't know
[10:00] <geirha> There's always some "child illness" the betas didn't catch, the first few weeks
[10:01] <r4y> Awesome, TY :)
[10:01] <bioterror> theres like 10.04.01 10.04.02 and 10.04.03 at least ;)
[10:01] <r4y> child illness?
[10:01] <geirha> Bad translation I supposee
[10:01] <bioterror> r4y, small problems
[10:02] <bioterror> but nothing like Suddent infant death syndromes ,)
[10:02] <r4y> I remember once getting 10.04.01 which I thought was labelled as 10.04.1 but I guess I am wrong
[10:02] <r4y> Got it. Thank you guys.
[10:03] <r4y> I wasn't sure, so then 12.04 for testing is ready.
[10:04] <r4y> TY you for the help.
[10:04] <bioterror> atleast lubuntu 12.04 works smoothly
[10:04] <bioterror> I have had 0 problems, actually
[10:05] <r4y> Cool. I've never tried lubuntu
[10:05] <r4y> I have much I want to try in the future
[10:06] <andrewhiggs> Hello everyone.
[10:07] <r4y> Take care :)
[10:08] <andrewhiggs> I am struggling to get tomcat (6.0.35) to work well on an Ubuntu Server currently testing on 12.04 but got same result on 11.04 and 11.10). The same application is running on a hosted solution with much better performance. I notice that the CPU does not appear to be being used (top shows %us to range between 5 and 15%) as much as the hosted solution (top show %us to be between 80 and 90%). How do I go about trouble shooting why the cpu is not being
[10:15] <oCean> andrewhiggs: please don't crosspost messages
[10:15] <oCean> also, for all 12.04 issues, /join #ubuntu+1 channel, it's offtopic for the regular channels
[10:20] <andrewhiggs> Hi oCean. The problem is also on 11.04 and 11.10.
[12:51] <AlphaGuyy> Helo
[12:53] <Sidewinder> AlphaGuyy, Mornin'.
[12:53] <AlphaGuyy> Aftrnoon
[12:54] <AlphaGuyy> I have a question relatn to partition editor
[12:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hello
[12:54] <AlphaGuyy> Is it possible to partition a drive without formatn
[12:56] <Sidewinder> AlphaGuyy, I don't see why not; just create a new partition and don't format it; that space will just be allocated but not used. Don't know why you'd want to do that unless you're reserving space for future use.
[12:57] <AlphaGuyy> Yes i have an 80gig. 35gigs used. Want to create a partition 4 new o.s
[12:59] <AlphaGuyy> Runing live cd 9.04
[12:59] <Sidewinder> AlphaGuyy, Which 'new OS'?
[12:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> AlphaGuyy, You can use gParted
[12:59] <AlphaGuyy> How do i go about it im new to linux
[13:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> Let me find a good link to help you
[13:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> one min
[13:00] <Sidewinder> 9.04 is End of Life. Why not use 10.04? It'll be supported until April 2013.
[13:00] <AlphaGuyy> Im usn old live cd to rescue data.
[13:01] <Sidewinder> AlphaGuyy, This should get you up and runnin', in no time: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:01] <Sidewinder> IAmNotThatGuy, Beat 'ya. :-)
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> Thanx.
[13:01] <Sidewinder> :)
[13:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sidewinder, I am trying to read 4 links to hfind which one is easy for him to proceed :P
[13:02] <Sidewinder> IAmNotThatGuy, Just kiddin'..
[13:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> AlphaGuyy, Just try looking at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm for editing the partition
[13:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> you should be careful when you are doing that
[13:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> AlphaGuyy, Better one is http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=using_gparted
[13:03] <Sidewinder> IAmNotThatGuy, The psychocats link is the one that I used, back in 2007, when I was brand new to ubuntu. I found it to be beyond helpful.
[13:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> Yeah. Theirs is forever green :)
[13:12] <raubvogel> I setup an interface to use static IP (lines 3-9 in http://pastie.org/private/mamcbwyzohmmrkfezhnw).
[13:12] <raubvogel> The 10.0.0.0/24 network has a bind/dchp server in 10.0.0.1 which will give ips to dchp clients starting at 100
[13:12] <raubvogel> Why is it giving me a dhcp ip (lines 13-21 in http://pastie.org/private/mamcbwyzohmmrkfezhnw)?
[18:44] <angels> anyone here to help?
[18:47] <philipballew_> !ask
[18:47] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:47] <bioterror> Unit193 is here to help
[18:47] <philipballew_> Unit193, is my cousin
[18:48] <bioterror> he got a shine new cloak
[18:48] <bioterror> shiny
[18:48] <bioterror> it's his duty
[18:48] <bioterror> :D
[18:52] <philipballew_> angels, whats your question?
[18:55] <Sidewinder> Glad someone's spelling is worse than mine. :-)
[18:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, you sure that Unit193 will help? ;D
[18:56] <bioterror> ofcourse not, he got his cloak
[18:56] <bioterror> :D
[18:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> lawl
[18:56] <bioterror> he has no reason anymore :D
[18:56]  * Unit193 hasn't seen a question, other than the sanity of philipballew_ 
[18:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, you know what, Unit193 came forward to buy me a Canon 5D Mark III new after getting the membership :D
[18:57] <bioterror> really
[18:57] <bioterror> and still uses those celeron computers? :D
[18:57] <bioterror> weird guy
[18:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> hahahaha
[18:58] <Unit193> bioterror: P4! (Just one celeron....)
[18:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, I heard that the bot is running in a 40 year old machine which is making him sleep outside the house xP
[19:06] <bioterror> yeah
[19:06] <bioterror> people wants help, but then doesn tell us how to help
[19:09] <philipballew_> Unit193, maybe im just a bot to
[19:22] <angels> philipballew_ - Why when I go thru the Linux installer, why is an error telling me I need to make a Root?
[19:22] <angels> I used GParted to create GPT table, then 400GB ext4 (out of total 1TB blank drive). Is there another step I'm missing?
[19:23] <philipballew_> angels, what distro?
[19:23] <angels> Ubuntu
[19:23] <philipballew_> you can just install, the on screen install does all that for you
[19:23] <angels> I am clicking thru it, but it is stopping due to the error
[19:24] <angels> It wants me to create a root from the "Partition Menu" but I don't see one
[19:25] <angels> I highlighted the 400GB partition, and the options are to add or change...?
[19:26] <WindowsToLinux> anybody here?
[19:27] <philipballew_> WindowsToLinux,
[19:27] <philipballew_> !ask
[19:27] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[19:28] <WindowsToLinux> i'm new here, first time, question is... i have a wifi laptop and a wired pc both on ubuntu 11.10, how can i connect both computers and browse/share files
[19:29] <philipballew_> theres a few ways. do you want to use a file browser I assume or say the terminal?
[19:30] <WindowsToLinux> file browser preferable, very green with linux and terminal scares me!
[19:30] <philipballew_> scares you how so?
[19:31] <philipballew_> lack of knowledge or afraid you'll mess something up?
[19:31] <WindowsToLinux> because I don't know the commands to use, terminal reminds me of DOS
[19:32] <WindowsToLinux> combination of lack of knowledge and messing up
[19:33] <philipballew_> you could try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/16104/share-between-ubuntu-machines
[19:33] <philipballew_> try the ssh method maybe?
[19:34] <philipballew_> or nfs shares
[19:34] <Unit193> You want to connect the desktop to the laptop via CAT5/ethernet cable, right?
[19:34] <philipballew_> WindowsToLinux,
[19:34] <Unit193> IIRC, you'd need a "crossover" cable to do that.
[19:34] <philipballew_> Unit193, he/she might have them at other ends of the house
[19:35] <WindowsToLinux> desktop is connected to router, laptop is connected to router via wifi
[19:35] <philipballew_> hum, alright. try the ssh method. you can even connect via ssh on a browser from away from the house via the laptop
[19:36] <bioterror> dont you windows kids use powershell? :D
[19:36] <WindowsToLinux> i've picke the ssh method from the link you sent, cheers :-)
[19:37] <philipballew_> i had to use power shell at work last week. its... okay maybe?
[19:38] <bioterror> WindowsToLinux, you should use samba
[19:38] <bioterror> WindowsToLinux, as windows computers understands that too, with explorer
[19:38] <bioterror> ssh uses more cpu and is slower than samba
[19:39] <bioterror> only nfs is superior to samba, if compared
[19:39] <WindowsToLinux> i don't have windows anymore, both pc's are linux
[19:39] <philipballew_> im not sure he/she has any windows computers apparently?
[19:39] <philipballew_> why the switch?
[19:40] <WindowsToLinux> <-- is a he, wanted to try it out, also, the desktop pc is a bit slugish with windows, fancied something leaner
[19:44] <philipballew_> so you like ubuntu?
[19:50] <WindowsToLinux> and ssh works on both machines :-)
[19:51] <WindowsToLinux> yeah @ philipballew, i don't use a multitude of different programs/software, the stuff on linux is more than enough for my needs and it will get more and more popular
[19:52] <WindowsToLinux> thanks for the help folks
[19:58] <philipballew_> this person seems nice
[20:45] <KimB0> ciao
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> time to update firefox again
[21:26] <philipballew_> bodhi_zazen, do you compile ff?
[21:27] <bodhi_zazen> Not if I can avoid it
[21:27] <bodhi_zazen> I had to once for support of a media I needed to work with
[21:29] <philipballew_> it takes days to compile ff bodhi_zazen
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> It takes about 6-7 hours to compile firefox on my netbook in gentoo
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> That is the biggest problem with gentoo, takes a long time to update
[21:35] <philipballew_> gentoo is fun to install though