[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[09:33] <s-fox> Hello everyone
[09:33] <s-fox> ping jcastro
[09:34] <czajkowski> s-fox: wrong timezone anything anyone else can help with ?
[09:34] <s-fox> Hello czajkowski , how are you? Yes I know he is in a US timezone. I was hoping he would see the ping and reply later.
[09:35] <s-fox> czajkowski,  Possibly, do you know the status on the hdds that have been ordered for the ubuntu forums?
[09:36] <czajkowski> s-fox: I don't but if you have a RT number I can go and find out for you if you want
[09:37] <s-fox> The last update I saw was several weeks ago, where sourcing them was proving to be problematic.
[09:37] <s-fox> Unfortunately i do not have the rt number.
[09:46] <czajkowski> s-fox: ok
[09:49] <czajkowski> s-fox: hopefully he;ll see the ping but I think he's at a conference today
[09:52] <s-fox> No worries czajkowski =)
[09:54] <czajkowski> so happy tis friday this week has dagged
[09:54] <czajkowski> *dragged
[09:56] <s-fox> Oh? Long week? It has been rather quick here to be honest.
[09:56] <s-fox> Any plans for the weekend czajkowski  ?
[09:56] <czajkowski> family dinner tonight with my cousins, tomorrow heading off to Galway with my mum, and then Sunday I fly back to London
[09:57] <czajkowski> Sunday I move house
[09:57] <s-fox> Manic
[09:57] <s-fox> I remember last time I moved. It was really stressful
[09:58] <czajkowski> am going to do a bit each evening this week and then move in from sunday week
[09:58] <czajkowski> then a week in london and then UDS
[09:58] <czajkowski> busy :)
[10:01] <s-fox> Sounds like a good plan to me. Hope the move goes okay for you.
[10:01] <czajkowski> aye shouldnt be too bad tbh
[10:01] <czajkowski> hopefully :)
[10:03] <s-fox> lol, just realised my iphone is looping the same song.  Thought I had heard sally cinammon a few times this morning already. :)
[10:04] <czajkowski> have a online radio on when I work no adds and no talking
[10:04] <czajkowski> rather handy
[10:07] <s-fox> czajkowski,  That sounds alright, the guys in my dept listen to radio 2 alot - which i cannot stand. haha
[10:09] <czajkowski> s-fox: http://www.defjay.com/player/default.asp?bw=hi&pl=swf  or else absolute 80's but that has talking and adds
[10:10] <czajkowski> dpm: would you mind having a look at some stage today at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/194154
[10:10] <s-fox> Thanks, i'll take a look.
[10:18] <dpm> hi czajkowski, unfortunately, this is not something I can solve. I'd suggest contacting an LP developer
[10:18] <czajkowski> dpm: no worries just confused as to the issue as well
[10:26] <dpm> czajkowski, np :)
[10:26] <czajkowski> the hiding of the address is just confusin
[10:26] <czajkowski> working on it now
[10:55] <dpm> ok, cool
[11:10]  * jussi waves
[11:10] <czajkowski> herrro jussi
[11:11] <jussi> good afternoon czajkowski
[13:08] <jussi> Did we all notice the nice little quote about ubuntu from Linus?
[13:08] <jussi> That kind of senseless user hostility is something that we’ve generally come away from (and some kernel people tend to dismiss Ubuntu, but I really think that Ubuntu has generally had the right approach, and been very user-centric).
[13:08] <jussi> http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/19/an-interview-with-millenium-technology-prize-finalist-linus-torvalds/
[13:10] <popey> yeah, seems to have spread on the socials
[13:18] <mhall119> it's like he's famous
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, mhall119, balloons demo day
[15:01] <dholbach> yep
[15:01] <jono> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid
[15:01] <balloons> ohh sweet! a balloons demo?
[15:02] <jono> lol
[15:04] <jono> mhall119, you there?
[15:17] <cjohnston> jcastro: summit has markup
[15:23] <mhall119> cjohnston: \o/
[16:34] <dholbach> alright my friends - it seems I have to run - I have a rock band from Luxembourg I need to eat tasty tasty burgers with
[16:34] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone
[16:34] <dholbach> big hugs
[16:37] <pangolin> I have an issue with the Big Up Ubuntu add on facebook
[16:37] <pangolin> Why does the main add say "steal it" when the terms and conditions clearly state the work must be original
[16:37] <pangolin> ?
[16:38] <pangolin> this is sensationalism in advertising and I find it disappointing that Canonical would be a party to it.
[16:39] <pangolin> Work so hard a making something free for all but then advertise that it is ok to steal.
[16:39] <pangolin> if anybody can explain this reasoning I would appreciate it
[17:02] <mhall119> pangolin: link?
[17:03] <pangolin> https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux/app_274602682618810
[17:04] <mhall119> pangolin: ah, I believe that was meant more in jest than literal
[17:05] <mhall119> like, if you re-purpose a meme for ubuntu, you "stole" it
[17:05] <mhall119> so "Ubuntu ALL OF THE THINGS!", as an example
[17:05] <pangolin> mhall119, jokes about theft from a company that is based on open source are not funny
[17:05] <dpm> have a nice weekend everyone!
[17:05] <pangolin> you too dpm
[17:06] <mhall119> it wasn't a joke about theft, it's slang that maybe doesn't translate well
[17:06] <dpm> ;)
[17:07] <pangolin> mhall119, I get the slang and I do understand how it was meant to be playful and not to encourage theft. What I am saying is that there are way better methods to entice and get people to participate.
[17:10] <pangolin> Guess the whole ac/dc thing got forgotten :)
[17:10] <pangolin> most people won't bother to take the time to get permission to use others works and they will post them to Canonical FB page.
[17:11] <nlsthzn> this is the nature of the new social media explosion
[17:14] <balloons> pangolin, I think whomever wrote that page is using "steal" in a non-literal sense
[17:15] <balloons> I myself invert the true meaning of words all the time, and within the context of the audience I'm speaking to they may understand it.. It's best avoided when speaking to a broad audience, as in this case
[17:15] <pangolin> Ubuntu is international, used by many non native English speakers, will the sarcasm translate? will they get that is is a joke?
[17:16] <pangolin> the wording is poorly chosen.
[17:24] <jono> pangolin, it was a joke
[17:24] <jono> I don't think people will misinterpret it
[17:25] <jono> in terms of an international audience, all jokes can be read in a way in which the humor doesn't work
[17:25] <jono> but then we would have pretty dry marketing material, and that would suck
[17:26] <pangolin> bikini clad women in advertising is acceptable and common in some countries.
[17:27] <jono> pangolin, indeed
[17:27] <pangolin> I know I am taking it to an extreme there.
[17:27] <jono> and different people have different views
[17:27] <jono> as an example, I personally have no issue with bikini clad women in ads, but some people do take offense at that
[17:27] <jono> everyone has their own view of what is considered appropriate
[17:28] <jono> I think we just need a good balance
[17:28] <jono> pangolin, I do agree though that some sarcasm might not translate well
[17:28] <pangolin> you honestly believe that "steal it" fell on the good side of the scale?
[17:29] <jono> pangolin, I think it was a joke that most people will see as a joke
[17:29] <jono> *everything* can be read multiple ways
[17:29] <jono> Ubuntu is Linux for Human Beings...that could be interpreted as being patronizing to people
[17:30] <pangolin> I'll leave the business side to the business people and continue doing what I can for the community, but I really think the business people should have a read at the philosophy of the community.
[17:30] <popey> pangolin: you're overthinking it ☺
[17:30] <jono> pangolin, I think you are reading too much into this
[17:30] <pangolin> probably am :)
[17:30] <jono> it was a joke...not a reflection on our philosophy
[17:31] <popey> i frequently steal jonos jokes
[17:31] <jono> lol
[17:31] <popey> and bury them in the garden so nobody else has to hear them
[17:31] <pangolin> jono says things that are funny?
[17:31] <pangolin> hehe
[17:31] <popey> yeah, unintentionally
[17:31] <jono> which says a lot about popey, that is some slim pickings
[17:31] <jono> haha
[17:31] <popey> thats the nicest thing you've ever said near me!
[17:31]  * jono hugs popey
[17:31] <popey> \o/
[17:32] <jono> :-)
[17:32]  * nlsthzn files this all under Random
[17:32] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#A12.04_artwork
[17:32] <popey> by the way
[17:32] <jono> :-)
[21:19] <czajkowski> evening
[21:49] <jussi> hi there czajkowski
[21:51] <czajkowski> jussi: herrro
[21:52]  * jussi has just returned to KDE - its nice to be back, but there were some things about Unity I really appreciated :=)
[21:53] <pleia2> I added some new keybindings to Xfce after using Unity on my laptop for a while ;)
[21:53] <jussi> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/20/plasma-desktopkm3346.png ;=)
[21:54] <pleia2> well that's just an abomination
[21:54] <pleia2> :)
[21:54] <jussi> hehe
[21:55] <czajkowski> jussi: see this is nice http://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/193447412881301504/photo/1
[21:55] <jussi> but... but... I like it?
[21:56] <jussi> czajkowski: err, what did that have to do with this conversation? (I see a 5 year old bouncng on a trampoline...)
[21:56] <czajkowski> jussi: a nice link to look at :/
[21:57] <czajkowski> jussi: not a patch on your pics mind
[21:57] <jussi> oh :D
[21:57] <czajkowski> little one is looking rather cute
[21:57] <jussi> yeah, isnt she.
[21:57]  * jussi is a proud daddy
[21:58] <czajkowski> :)
[21:58] <jussi> czajkowski: she has been real smiley the last week or so
[21:59] <jussi> its nice :)
[21:59] <jussi> mind, I think she might be getting a tooth already
[21:59] <czajkowski> wow
[22:04] <tsimpson> jussi: I agree with czajkowski, your desktop is an abomination :p
[22:05] <jussi> tsimpson: well good thing Im the one that needs to use it
[22:05] <jussi> it works for me...
[22:06] <czajkowski> tsimpson: wasnt me who said it :)
[22:06] <czajkowski> I get blamed enough for saying the wrong thing! :)
[22:06] <tsimpson> right, it was pleia2
[22:06] <jussi> hehe
[22:06] <jussi> PING
[22:06] <tsimpson> so it turns out those folks at unity didn't need to write a whole new UI, they could have just switched to KDE?
[22:07] <tsimpson> jussi: credit where credit is due :)
[22:07] <jussi> tsimpson: pretty much
[22:08] <pleia2> the favorite moment in my 12.04 talk on tuesday was when one guy finishes playing with my system and ends with "that's very nice, but I want the button thing on the bottom"
[22:08] <pleia2> there's always one!
[22:08] <czajkowski> :/
[22:09] <jussi> tsimpson: mind I did do this when they first made unity...but they ignored me... ;P https://twitter.com/#!/jussi01/status/68319535840772096
[22:10] <mhall119> jussi: if I can't switch directly to an app with super+[0-9] then it ain't Unity :P
[22:11] <tsimpson> well then there's just no excuse :)
[22:11] <mhall119> If I can't aggregate search results from near and far into the Dash, then it ain't Unity
[22:13] <jussi> mhall119: I can do that in krunner already
[22:13] <jussi> and its pluginable
[22:15] <mhall119> jussi: is there a plugin for chicken curry recipes?
[22:15] <mhall119> if not, then it ain't Unity ;)
[22:15] <jussi> mhall119: meh :P just cause someone hasnt made a plugin yet... :P
[22:19] <jussi> mhall119: mind, as you know, I wouldnt mind if someone got the unity 2d dash running as a plasmoid...
[22:20] <mhall119> jussi: it *is* Qt
[22:22] <jussi> mhall119: I asked some people about it, but it seems its a rather large undertaking. I do want to talk to arelien about it though.
[22:23] <mhall119> have you asked mhr3?
[22:23] <mhall119> or, greyback might be better, I think he's worked on the -2d dash
[22:24] <mhall119> personally, I'd *love* to see lenses and scopes become a cross-desktop standard
[22:25] <jussi> didnt aurelien woek on 2d also?
[22:27] <jussi> meh, I should sleep its almost 2am...
[22:51] <doctormon> akgraner: Did you say you were going to email me?
[22:52] <akgraner> doctormon, I am as soon as I think of something witty to say :-P
[22:52] <akgraner> other than make a desktop for me
[22:52] <akgraner> I love the images you did for Tara and Jason those are awesome
[22:52] <doctormon> Lol, thought it might be a question/request, but a show of wit is always appreciated :-) what kind of desktop?
[22:53] <akgraner> request would be a wallpaper for me  or me
[22:53] <akgraner> for me of me  - I meant to say
[22:54] <akgraner> doctormon, you call see all my pics on FB :-) so if you could create something from those that would be the most awesome-est thing in the world
[22:55] <akgraner> dang it - can't freakin type ever it seems - s/call/can
[22:57] <akgraner> doctormon, I'll think of something witty and send you a more formal request :-)  but for now I have to run.. talk to you soon!