=== MrChrisDruif is now known as BrokenThumb === BrokenThumb is now known as MrChrisDruif [06:52] good morning [09:33] Hello everyone [09:33] ping jcastro [09:34] s-fox: wrong timezone anything anyone else can help with ? [09:34] Hello czajkowski , how are you? Yes I know he is in a US timezone. I was hoping he would see the ping and reply later. [09:35] czajkowski, Possibly, do you know the status on the hdds that have been ordered for the ubuntu forums? [09:36] s-fox: I don't but if you have a RT number I can go and find out for you if you want [09:37] The last update I saw was several weeks ago, where sourcing them was proving to be problematic. [09:37] Unfortunately i do not have the rt number. [09:46] s-fox: ok [09:49] s-fox: hopefully he;ll see the ping but I think he's at a conference today [09:52] No worries czajkowski =) [09:54] so happy tis friday this week has dagged [09:54] *dragged [09:56] Oh? Long week? It has been rather quick here to be honest. [09:56] Any plans for the weekend czajkowski ? [09:56] family dinner tonight with my cousins, tomorrow heading off to Galway with my mum, and then Sunday I fly back to London [09:57] Sunday I move house [09:57] Manic [09:57] I remember last time I moved. It was really stressful [09:58] am going to do a bit each evening this week and then move in from sunday week [09:58] then a week in london and then UDS [09:58] busy :) [10:01] Sounds like a good plan to me. Hope the move goes okay for you. [10:01] aye shouldnt be too bad tbh [10:01] hopefully :) [10:03] lol, just realised my iphone is looping the same song. Thought I had heard sally cinammon a few times this morning already. :) [10:04] have a online radio on when I work no adds and no talking [10:04] rather handy [10:07] czajkowski, That sounds alright, the guys in my dept listen to radio 2 alot - which i cannot stand. haha [10:09] s-fox: http://www.defjay.com/player/default.asp?bw=hi&pl=swf or else absolute 80's but that has talking and adds [10:10] dpm: would you mind having a look at some stage today at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/194154 [10:10] Thanks, i'll take a look. [10:18] hi czajkowski, unfortunately, this is not something I can solve. I'd suggest contacting an LP developer [10:18] dpm: no worries just confused as to the issue as well [10:26] czajkowski, np :) [10:26] the hiding of the address is just confusin [10:26] working on it now [10:55] ok, cool [11:10] * jussi waves [11:10] herrro jussi [11:11] good afternoon czajkowski [13:08] Did we all notice the nice little quote about ubuntu from Linus? [13:08] That kind of senseless user hostility is something that we’ve generally come away from (and some kernel people tend to dismiss Ubuntu, but I really think that Ubuntu has generally had the right approach, and been very user-centric). [13:08] http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/19/an-interview-with-millenium-technology-prize-finalist-linus-torvalds/ [13:10] yeah, seems to have spread on the socials [13:18] it's like he's famous === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Sidewinder1 === Sidewinder1 is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [15:00] dholbach, dpm, jcastro, mhall119, balloons demo day [15:01] yep [15:01] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid [15:01] ohh sweet! a balloons demo? [15:02] lol [15:04] mhall119, you there? [15:17] jcastro: summit has markup [15:23] cjohnston: \o/ [16:34] alright my friends - it seems I have to run - I have a rock band from Luxembourg I need to eat tasty tasty burgers with [16:34] have a great weekend everyone [16:34] big hugs [16:37] I have an issue with the Big Up Ubuntu add on facebook [16:37] Why does the main add say "steal it" when the terms and conditions clearly state the work must be original [16:37] ? [16:38] this is sensationalism in advertising and I find it disappointing that Canonical would be a party to it. [16:39] Work so hard a making something free for all but then advertise that it is ok to steal. [16:39] if anybody can explain this reasoning I would appreciate it [17:02] pangolin: link? [17:03] https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux/app_274602682618810 [17:04] pangolin: ah, I believe that was meant more in jest than literal [17:05] like, if you re-purpose a meme for ubuntu, you "stole" it [17:05] so "Ubuntu ALL OF THE THINGS!", as an example [17:05] mhall119, jokes about theft from a company that is based on open source are not funny [17:05] have a nice weekend everyone! [17:05] you too dpm [17:06] it wasn't a joke about theft, it's slang that maybe doesn't translate well [17:06] ;) [17:07] mhall119, I get the slang and I do understand how it was meant to be playful and not to encourage theft. What I am saying is that there are way better methods to entice and get people to participate. [17:10] Guess the whole ac/dc thing got forgotten :) [17:10] most people won't bother to take the time to get permission to use others works and they will post them to Canonical FB page. [17:11] this is the nature of the new social media explosion [17:14] pangolin, I think whomever wrote that page is using "steal" in a non-literal sense [17:15] I myself invert the true meaning of words all the time, and within the context of the audience I'm speaking to they may understand it.. It's best avoided when speaking to a broad audience, as in this case [17:15] Ubuntu is international, used by many non native English speakers, will the sarcasm translate? will they get that is is a joke? [17:16] the wording is poorly chosen. [17:24] pangolin, it was a joke [17:24] I don't think people will misinterpret it [17:25] in terms of an international audience, all jokes can be read in a way in which the humor doesn't work [17:25] but then we would have pretty dry marketing material, and that would suck [17:26] bikini clad women in advertising is acceptable and common in some countries. [17:27] pangolin, indeed [17:27] I know I am taking it to an extreme there. [17:27] and different people have different views [17:27] as an example, I personally have no issue with bikini clad women in ads, but some people do take offense at that [17:27] everyone has their own view of what is considered appropriate [17:28] I think we just need a good balance [17:28] pangolin, I do agree though that some sarcasm might not translate well [17:28] you honestly believe that "steal it" fell on the good side of the scale? [17:29] pangolin, I think it was a joke that most people will see as a joke [17:29] *everything* can be read multiple ways [17:29] Ubuntu is Linux for Human Beings...that could be interpreted as being patronizing to people [17:30] I'll leave the business side to the business people and continue doing what I can for the community, but I really think the business people should have a read at the philosophy of the community. [17:30] pangolin: you're overthinking it ☺ [17:30] pangolin, I think you are reading too much into this [17:30] probably am :) [17:30] it was a joke...not a reflection on our philosophy [17:31] i frequently steal jonos jokes [17:31] lol [17:31] and bury them in the garden so nobody else has to hear them [17:31] jono says things that are funny? [17:31] hehe [17:31] yeah, unintentionally [17:31] which says a lot about popey, that is some slim pickings [17:31] haha [17:31] thats the nicest thing you've ever said near me! [17:31] * jono hugs popey [17:31] \o/ [17:32] :-) [17:32] * nlsthzn files this all under Random [17:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#A12.04_artwork [17:32] by the way [17:32] :-) === fenris is now known as Guest89753 === Guest89753 is now known as ejat [21:19] evening [21:49] hi there czajkowski [21:51] jussi: herrro [21:52] * jussi has just returned to KDE - its nice to be back, but there were some things about Unity I really appreciated :=) [21:53] I added some new keybindings to Xfce after using Unity on my laptop for a while ;) [21:53] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/20/plasma-desktopkm3346.png ;=) [21:54] well that's just an abomination [21:54] :) [21:54] hehe [21:55] jussi: see this is nice http://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/193447412881301504/photo/1 [21:55] but... but... I like it? [21:56] czajkowski: err, what did that have to do with this conversation? (I see a 5 year old bouncng on a trampoline...) [21:56] jussi: a nice link to look at :/ [21:57] jussi: not a patch on your pics mind [21:57] oh :D [21:57] little one is looking rather cute [21:57] yeah, isnt she. [21:57] * jussi is a proud daddy [21:58] :) [21:58] czajkowski: she has been real smiley the last week or so [21:59] its nice :) [21:59] mind, I think she might be getting a tooth already [21:59] wow [22:04] jussi: I agree with czajkowski, your desktop is an abomination :p [22:05] tsimpson: well good thing Im the one that needs to use it [22:05] it works for me... [22:06] tsimpson: wasnt me who said it :) [22:06] I get blamed enough for saying the wrong thing! :) [22:06] right, it was pleia2 [22:06] hehe [22:06] PING [22:06] so it turns out those folks at unity didn't need to write a whole new UI, they could have just switched to KDE? [22:07] jussi: credit where credit is due :) [22:07] tsimpson: pretty much [22:08] the favorite moment in my 12.04 talk on tuesday was when one guy finishes playing with my system and ends with "that's very nice, but I want the button thing on the bottom" [22:08] there's always one! [22:08] :/ [22:09] tsimpson: mind I did do this when they first made unity...but they ignored me... ;P https://twitter.com/#!/jussi01/status/68319535840772096 [22:10] jussi: if I can't switch directly to an app with super+[0-9] then it ain't Unity :P [22:11] well then there's just no excuse :) [22:11] If I can't aggregate search results from near and far into the Dash, then it ain't Unity [22:13] mhall119: I can do that in krunner already [22:13] and its pluginable [22:15] jussi: is there a plugin for chicken curry recipes? [22:15] if not, then it ain't Unity ;) [22:15] mhall119: meh :P just cause someone hasnt made a plugin yet... :P [22:19] mhall119: mind, as you know, I wouldnt mind if someone got the unity 2d dash running as a plasmoid... [22:20] jussi: it *is* Qt [22:22] mhall119: I asked some people about it, but it seems its a rather large undertaking. I do want to talk to arelien about it though. [22:23] have you asked mhr3? [22:23] or, greyback might be better, I think he's worked on the -2d dash [22:24] personally, I'd *love* to see lenses and scopes become a cross-desktop standard [22:25] didnt aurelien woek on 2d also? [22:27] meh, I should sleep its almost 2am... [22:51] akgraner: Did you say you were going to email me? [22:52] doctormon, I am as soon as I think of something witty to say :-P [22:52] other than make a desktop for me [22:52] I love the images you did for Tara and Jason those are awesome [22:52] Lol, thought it might be a question/request, but a show of wit is always appreciated :-) what kind of desktop? [22:53] request would be a wallpaper for me or me [22:53] for me of me - I meant to say [22:54] doctormon, you call see all my pics on FB :-) so if you could create something from those that would be the most awesome-est thing in the world [22:55] dang it - can't freakin type ever it seems - s/call/can [22:57] doctormon, I'll think of something witty and send you a more formal request :-) but for now I have to run.. talk to you soon!