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| === chaoticuk_ is now known as chaoticuk | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 04:28 |
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| thumper | I've just done a fresh install of precise on my server | 05:03 |
| thumper | (hard disk failure) | 05:03 |
| thumper | but I want to set a static IP address | 05:03 |
| thumper | yes... still IPv4 | 05:03 |
| thumper | what is the minimal bits I need to change? | 05:04 |
| pitti | thumper: hey | 05:04 |
| pitti | thumper: ah, you've come to the right place for UI-less servers ;-) | 05:04 |
| pitti | thumper: more seriously, do you want to edit conffiles or do you have GNOME/network-manager on this box? | 05:05 |
| thumper | pitti: hey... I have it running unity :) | 05:05 |
| pitti | oh, heh: ) | 05:05 |
| thumper | pitti: it is a desktop | 05:05 |
| thumper | but I treat it as a server | 05:05 |
| thumper | :) | 05:05 |
| thumper | my media server | 05:05 |
| pitti | so, network indicator -> edit connections -> cable based -> add | 05:05 |
| thumper | add, not edit? | 05:06 |
| pitti | create a new connection, siwtch to the "IPv4 settings" tab, change from "DHCP" to "Manual", and enter teh data | 05:06 |
| pitti | thumper: if you have an existing connection, sure, editing will do | 05:06 |
| thumper | when I just tried this, it wouldn't allow me to save | 05:06 |
| pitti | I don't have any (using Wifi) | 05:06 |
| thumper | ah... hang on, that time save enabled... | 05:07 |
| thumper | lets see if it works | 05:07 |
| pitti | thumper: the save button only becomes active if you add an IP | 05:07 |
| pitti | (or switch to "Auto") | 05:07 |
| thumper | ideally I didn't want to specify dns | 05:08 |
| thumper | but it seems without it... | 05:08 |
| thumper | it won't find anything :) | 05:08 |
| pitti | for more flexibility you can also just edit /etc/network/interfaces | 05:08 |
| pitti | something like | 05:09 |
| pitti | auto eth0 | 05:09 |
| pitti | iface eth0 inet dhcp | 05:09 |
| pitti | that should suffice | 05:09 |
| pitti | err, no, not "dhcp", but "static" | 05:09 |
| pitti | and add "address" and "netmask", see man interfaces | 05:09 |
| BigWhale | Morning. | 05:13 |
| thumper | way... adding the DNS servers made it happy :) | 05:15 |
| thumper | now to install sshd | 05:15 |
| Sweetshark | Morning everyone! | 05:30 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 05:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: hey Chris, how are you? | 05:45 |
| RAOF | Good! | 05:45 |
| RAOF | I think I may be closing in on why two-finger scrolling sometimes stops working until you reload psmouse. | 05:46 |
| pitti | RAOF: are you up for some SRU training wrt. handling kernel uploads? There's something I want to try | 05:46 |
| pitti | (not necessarily right now, in a few hours is fine as well) | 05:46 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I can do that. | 05:46 |
| RAOF | You know I can't copy to -updates due to LP bugs, though, right? | 05:47 |
| pitti | RAOF: why not? | 05:47 |
| pitti | permission issues? | 05:47 |
| RAOF | Because the copy times out. | 05:47 |
| pitti | RAOF: ah, not any more | 05:47 |
| RAOF | Ooooh! | 05:47 |
| pitti | there is never a reason to go to cocoplum any more to release SRUs | 05:47 |
| pitti | RAOF: sru-release was changed from the synchronous copyPackage (which often timed out) to the async syncPackage() | 05:48 |
| RAOF | pitti: That's not quite true though, right? There's the handful of packages which still need manual tweaking with shell access to do (debian-installer & update-manager are the ones I remember offhand)? | 05:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: so you can release kernels just as any other SRU, except that most kernels also go to -security and thus you need the -s flag | 05:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: right, that's correct | 05:49 |
| RAOF | Good, just keeping up :) | 05:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: releaseing kernels is easy now, though | 05:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: copying kernels to -proposed which do NOT bump API (i. e. don't require a new linux-meta) is also easy | 05:49 |
| pitti | just run the copy-package script on pending-sru.html, and you are good | 05:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: the tricky part is copying kernel abi bumps, as the new packages routinely land in universe and need to be promoted | 05:50 |
| RAOF | Yay bugs. | 05:50 |
| RAOF | I have the permissions to fix that up though, don't I? | 05:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: I usually run copy-proposed-kernel, then ssh cocoplum and move them to main | 05:50 |
| pitti | but I wanted to try something | 05:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: do you have a bookmark for "pending kernel SRU tasks"? | 05:51 |
| pitti | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+assignedbugs?field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE | 05:51 |
| pitti | RAOF: we just have one task right now | 05:52 |
| RAOF | I do not, but there's the "open bugs" button on the pending-sru page, rigth? | 05:52 |
| pitti | RAOF: that doesn't help for the kernel tasks | 05:52 |
| pitti | the kernel SRU workflow is a bit different; we don't actually run sru-accept for kernels | 05:52 |
| pitti | RAOF: so I would like to run that one task with you, and try something | 05:52 |
| RAOF | Ok. | 05:53 |
| pitti | let's switch to /msg to not spam the channel | 05:53 |
| micahg | pitti: what's the proper upstream name for gsettings-desktop-schemas (Capitalization wise) | 06:31 |
| pitti | micahg: hm, I think it's just that | 06:33 |
| * micahg was going to use GSettings desktop schemas (not sure about the last 2 words, but the first is like that in the README | 06:33 | |
| pitti | micahg: looks fine | 06:36 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 07:14 |
| pitti | hey tkamppeter | 07:14 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, did you get mail from OdyX? | 07:14 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: yes, I added him to the project last night and told him, he just pinged bck | 07:15 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OdyX has uploaded a new cups-filters package to Debian as it seems that Debian has no libtiff5 any more. | 07:15 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, up to nowthere is no new commit by OdyX. | 07:16 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: yes, he said he'd push "later tonight" | 07:16 |
| seb128 | hey | 07:45 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, guten tag! wie geht's? | 07:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, happy friday ;-) | 07:46 |
| pitti | je suis bien, merci! | 07:46 |
| pitti | and to you | 07:46 |
| pitti | I need to file the release team report, stuck in bug triage.. | 07:46 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 07:47 |
| seb128 | well, now is a good time for bug triage | 07:47 |
| seb128 | I've been triaged mostly this week, iso testing as well today I guess | 07:47 |
| pitti | right | 07:48 |
| pitti | I spent all day on hackign pygobject yesterday, that was a nice diversion | 07:48 |
| * pitti sighs at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team.html and will just do a mass dropping | 07:51 | |
| seb128 | seems RAOF own most of the remining ones | 07:53 |
| seb128 | 5 todo and 1 in progress | 07:53 |
| pitti | there are about 30 left | 07:54 |
| seb128 | and Luke has 6 | 07:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, well most of others are 1 by people and mostly not-so-precise-related items | 07:55 |
| seb128 | like rickspencer3 has 2 | 07:55 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, update your work items! ;-) | 07:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just handled my 2 remaining ones | 07:56 |
| pitti | thanks | 07:58 |
| pitti | [mvo] backport apt-clone to lucid (lp:~mvo/apt-clone/lucid-backport): INPROGRESS | 07:59 |
| pitti | mvo: ^ this looks DONE? or is there more to it? | 07:59 |
| mvo | pitti: uh, last time I looked at this iirc there was a missing dh_python2 in lucid | 08:01 |
| micahg | missing as in has not been backported yet? | 08:02 |
| mvo | iirc yes | 08:02 |
| micahg | this is true :) | 08:02 |
| micahg | Bug #788524 | 08:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 788524 in python-defaults "backport dh_python2 to lucid (and maverick if appropriate)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788524 | 08:03 |
| mvo | ok | 08:03 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, ok | 08:07 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey, how are you? | 08:07 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 08:07 |
| mvo | good, busy, good, release time! | 08:07 |
| mvo | pitti: I guess I could simply convert, let me look at the code again | 08:07 |
| seb128 | mvo, ;-) for me release time is quiet time ;-) | 08:08 |
| seb128 | they wouldn't let me get fixes in now, so I can sleep :p | 08:08 |
| pitti | mvo: I'm fine with "postponed", too, I'm just running through the remaining ones to check that we don't drop something urgent/important | 08:08 |
| mvo | seb128: haha | 08:08 |
| pitti | -proposed is wide open! | 08:08 |
| mvo | pitti: ok, if you have it in front of you, just set it to postponed, otherwise I will do that | 08:08 |
| mvo | (but need to hunt the blueprint first ;) | 08:09 |
| pitti | mvo: doing | 08:09 |
| pitti | mvo: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades FYI | 08:09 |
| mvo | ta | 08:10 |
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| * pitti hugs apt | 08:49 | |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:03 |
| BigWhale | How can this make it into Ubuntu? https://github.com/engla/keybinder/tree/keybinder-3.0 | 09:12 |
| BigWhale | keybinder that is now included is Gtk2 only | 09:12 |
| RAOF | BigWhale: You know, the ideal way to get that into Ubuntu is to have GTK suck it up. | 09:27 |
| RAOF | BigWhale: It's *still* stupid that GTK doesn't have an API for that :) | 09:27 |
| BigWhale | I know. | 09:27 |
| BigWhale | :/ | 09:27 |
| RAOF | Just as long as we're on the same page :) | 09:28 |
| RAOF | Incidentally, I didn't know that code had got itself libraryised. | 09:28 |
| RAOF | I should probably rip out the copy in Do an depend on that instead. | 09:28 |
| RAOF | Oh. GPL? Really? | 09:29 |
| BigWhale | I never bothered to research a bit more into this. If I did, I'd probably repackage keybinder for Precise ... Crap. | 09:31 |
| RAOF | Oooh, there's exactly one rdepend of the existing libkeybinder0. | 09:34 |
| BigWhale | RAOF, what is it? | 09:50 |
| RAOF | BigWhale: The xfce volume daemon. | 09:51 |
| RAOF | (As in: sound volume) | 09:51 |
| BigWhale | oh | 09:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 09:51 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks. although, my daughter is not too well today | 09:52 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh? she got a cold or something? | 09:53 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks | 09:53 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, she's just got a cold | 09:53 |
| chrisccoulson | https://twitter.com/#!/chrisccoulson/status/193067610122887168/photo/1/large ;) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I should subscribe to twitter and follow you ;-) | 09:54 |
| RAOF | Good to see that the prime directive of the internet is still in effect :) | 09:55 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | hey RAOF, how are you? | 09:55 |
| RAOF | Hey seb128. Good! | 09:55 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, you like cats don't you? | 09:55 |
| chrisccoulson | https://twitter.com/#!/chrisccoulson/status/193268814723547136 | 09:55 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I love cats! | 09:55 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:55 |
| seb128 | nice picture ;-) | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems one of ours decided to sleep in a an old flower pot ;) | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i've just noticed from that photo that he's lost his collar! | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | gah | 09:57 |
| chrisccoulson | he keeps doing that | 09:57 |
| seb128 | why do you put him a collar? | 09:58 |
| chrisccoulson | so people don't think he's a stray. and the bell also frightens the birds away, to stop him from sneaking up on them ;) | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | we end up with dead brids all over the garden when he hasn't got a collar on ;) | 09:59 |
| seb128 | poor cat, can't even get a bird for lunch? | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | we do feed him | 09:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | is didrocks on vacation today ? | 10:50 |
| * ogra_ has a compiz change he would need to upload, but there are un-uploaded changes in the branch | 10:51 | |
| pitti | ogra_: yes | 11:00 |
| ogra_ | k :( | 11:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, he swapper his easter monday for today | 11:03 |
| seb128 | swapped | 11:03 |
| seb128 | ups | 11:03 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ^ | 11:03 |
| pitti | ITYM ogra | 11:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed ;-) | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | well, thanks, i'll talk to the release team if monday is still ok for a 0 day SRU | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | i just dont want to upload stuff he didnt nod off | 11:05 |
| seb128 | ogra_, yeah, you will be up for a rant again about wth you guys are doing coming so late in the cycle with non working stuff | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | seb128, it would have worked without that werid branch stuff :P | 11:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:06 |
| seb128 | it would have worked if had landed 3 months earlier | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | well, i was promised that patch for opening of precise ... | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | somehow there was some kind of a slight slowdown :) | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | (though i also was promised the same patch for the opening of oneiric ... dunno what made me hope for it to be ready when 12.04 opens :P ) | 11:08 |
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| Chipaca | anybody here able to give a hand with an issue i'm seeing in a scope? | 11:15 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| vuntz | chrisccoulson: hey, just wondering if you updated the patch in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608402 to fix my comments? | 12:16 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 608402 in general "Add support for delaying autostart applications" [Enhancement,New] | 12:16 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I got a fix for bug 980673 in cups-filters. | 12:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 980673 in cups-filters "pdftopdf crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980673 | 12:21 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, probably now it should go as SRU. I will put cups-filters 1.0.17 onto the Debian BZR, can the SRU also be 1.0.17 or should it have the fix in debian/patches (1.0.17 differs from 1.0.16 only by this patch)? | 12:23 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: no, it can also be 1.0.17 | 12:25 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: right, just upload to -proposed | 12:25 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OK, it is on its way now. | 12:35 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| tkamppeter | pitti, fix for bug 980673 is uploaded to -proposed for an SRU now. It is also committed to the Debian BZR. | 13:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 980673 in cups-filters "pdftopdf crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980673 | 13:03 |
| desrt | happy friday | 13:23 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey, happy friday! how are you? | 13:28 |
| desrt | us usual, i'll be able to tell after coffee :) | 13:28 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:28 |
| nessita | hello everyone! would you please remind me which is the proper channel to report unity issues? | 13:45 |
| kenvandine | nessita, #ubuntu-unity | 13:45 |
| nessita | kenvandine: thanks! | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | anytime! | 13:46 |
| dobey | dpm: ping | 14:00 |
| dobey | dpm: n/m | 14:03 |
| desrt | mterry: apparently you've been naughty? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | desrt, is that the autostart delay stuff? | 14:23 |
| desrt | yes | 14:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, it was a "let's assume GNOME doesn't have reason to reject that simple patch and not go through a temporary name and transition" | 14:24 |
| seb128 | if you want the reason to use X-GNOME- | 14:24 |
| seb128 | but the patch has been sitting in bugzilla and never went it | 14:24 |
| mterry | desrt, hello. I have?! | 14:25 |
| seb128 | mterry, in fact chrisccoulson had | 14:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608402 for the record | 14:25 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 608402 in general "Add support for delaying autostart applications" [Enhancement,New] | 14:25 |
| mterry | phew :) | 14:25 |
| seb128 | or vuntz had | 14:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, "Vincent Untz [gnome-session developer] 2010-01-29 01:03:03 UTC | 14:25 |
| seb128 | Please prefix the key name with X-GNOME" | 14:25 |
| * mterry doesn't want to ruin his Christmas haul | 14:25 | |
| desrt | seb128: on the assumption that the patch would go upstream that makes sense | 14:26 |
| seb128 | desrt, I think it's not fair to blame us to do what upstream asked on the bug review | 14:26 |
| desrt | seb128: nobody is blaming | 14:26 |
| seb128 | desrt, "<mclasen_> what I most strongly dislike is the use of X-GNOME for something that is not, in fact, a gnome thing" | 14:27 |
| seb128 | desrt, but well, let's not argue on details ;-) | 14:27 |
| desrt | well, that part is true :) | 14:27 |
| desrt | it's clear what happened, though | 14:27 |
| seb128 | ... | 14:27 |
| desrt | you took the patch on assumption that it would one day make it upstream | 14:27 |
| seb128 | I think they is no bad willing there | 14:27 |
| desrt | it never did | 14:27 |
| desrt | i agree | 14:27 |
| seb128 | there | 14:27 |
| vuntz | for reference, it would help to have the latest version of the patch in the bug :-) | 14:27 |
| seb128 | vuntz, I can do that ;-) | 14:28 |
| vuntz | since the X-GNOME thing was requested in the last review, and there's no patch uploaded after that | 14:28 |
| vuntz | bonus point if everything mentioned in the review is fixed | 14:28 |
| desrt | then the solution is that gnome takes the patch and everyone is happy | 14:29 |
| seb128 | right | 14:29 |
| seb128 | well mclasen didn't seem so happy about GNOME taking that patch | 14:29 |
| desrt | seb128: i'm not thrilled about the approach myself | 14:29 |
| seb128 | better suggestions that work today or would work with reasonable efforts are welcome ;-) | 14:30 |
| * vuntz is not thrilled but doesn't care enough to argue against or for :-) | 14:30 | |
| desrt | seb128: 'take the patch' ;) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | "let's do nothing until we fix that will in 3 years" not so good ;-) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | will->well | 14:30 |
| dpm | dobey, sorry, I was on the phone. Is there anything I can still help with? | 14:39 |
| dpm | if it's the bug with untranslated Yes/No/Cancel, I'm talking about it with mandel | 14:39 |
| dobey | dpm: it was that bug, yes | 14:40 |
| dpm | ok | 14:40 |
| seb128 | vuntz, I've attached the current version, chrisccoulson should still update it to address your review comments though ;-) | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | hi! | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, that one again ;) | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should do non-firefox desktop work for a cycle :) | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, when we switch to midori you can :) | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 14:44 |
| dobey | kenvandine: what, are we going to just ship elementary now? | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:50 |
| desrt | seb128: (looking over bug mails) the nfs/ecryptfs homedir thing is what causes the crashes in refresh() | 15:08 |
| desrt | seb128: the segv one is the one that i think is happening on logout | 15:08 |
| seb128 | desrt, did I comment asking on the wrong one? ;-) | 15:08 |
| desrt | seb128: i already asked it on the other one | 15:09 |
| desrt | and the reporter confirmed that they have ecryptfs | 15:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, oh ok, I got confused, thanks ;-) | 15:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, how does ecryptfs lead to that issue? | 15:09 |
| desrt | seb128: mmap on ecryptfs seems unreliable | 15:09 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:09 |
| seb128 | never got an issue here | 15:10 |
| desrt | for the same reason that it's unreliable on nfs, i guess | 15:10 |
| desrt | ya... not will-always-fail | 15:10 |
| desrt | just not totally reliable | 15:10 |
| desrt | enough that we get a few bugs about it... | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm a bit surprised still, but if you are confident it's that ;-) | 15:11 |
| desrt | anyway... it's sort of an interesting point. we may want to treat fuse-based filesystems in the same way we will treat nfs file systems (ie: don't trust that they will work properly) | 15:11 |
| desrt | well | 15:11 |
| desrt | i guessed, and had my guess confirmed | 15:11 |
| desrt | so i'm not sure, but i'm fairly happy with that explanation | 15:11 |
| desrt | the fix to this problem is very very simple: we really need XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 15:12 |
| seb128 | that's not a "fix" for ecryptfs not being reliable | 15:12 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure I want to store my datas on a non reliable fs | 15:12 |
| seb128 | i.e that raise questions out of that bug ;-) | 15:12 |
| seb128 | it's a bit of a disturbing situation | 15:13 |
| desrt | it's not the data that's the problem | 15:13 |
| desrt | it's the shm file (ie: a one-byte signaling mechanism we use for synchronising the service and the apps) | 15:13 |
| seb128 | well, how many programs will have the same issue | 15:13 |
| desrt | anything that tries to create shared memory handles using the home directory as a backing store? | 15:14 |
| desrt | this is exactly the reason that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR was invented and why we are trying to use it for all things like this | 15:14 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:15 |
| desrt | we need a reliable local native fs (like ext3, ext4, btrfs, tmpfs, etc) | 15:15 |
| desrt | not 'fake' filesystems like ecryptfs/fuse or nfs | 15:15 |
| seb128 | I'm still unsure why shm file on ecryptfs are unreliable | 15:15 |
| seb128 | and why we think that's ok ;-) | 15:15 |
| desrt | because it's impossible for it to be 100% perfect | 15:15 |
| desrt | the hardware doesn't notify the kernel on every single write | 15:16 |
| desrt | so the data can't be pushed down into userspace on every single write either | 15:16 |
| desrt | also: it has the classical use-after-delete thing going on | 15:16 |
| desrt | and the underlying file in the unecrypted filesystem disappears | 15:16 |
| desrt | if the data gets pushed out of the cache in the meantime then when it comes time to refetch the backing store, it's already gone | 15:16 |
| seb128 | hum, alright | 15:17 |
| seb128 | but yeah, agreed, we really need the xdg_runtime_dir next cycle | 15:17 |
| desrt | it seems a few things are starting to use it | 15:18 |
| seb128 | udisks2 do user mounts there right? | 15:19 |
| pitti | no, I don't think it does | 15:19 |
| pitti | NEWS: Avoid using $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/media for now | 15:19 |
| pitti | NEWS: Use /run/media/$USER for mounting | 15:19 |
| pitti | NEWS: Prefer mounting in /run/user/$USER/media instead of /media | 15:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, ok | 15:20 |
| seb128 | "This is because of security concerns - it is way too dangerous to let a system-daemon such as udisks manage directories in a user-controlled location such as $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. So now udisks2 is using /run/media/$USER instead, see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=aa02e5fc53efdeaf66047d2ad437ed543178965b" | 15:21 |
| seb128 | that's from the corresponding gvfs commit | 15:21 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, the pdftopdf bug is verified ... | 16:02 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: with the packages from -proposed? | 16:02 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I think so. | 16:03 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: cool, I'll copy it into precise release then | 16:04 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, can you have a look at bug 982675? | 16:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 982675 in cups-filters "pdftops crashed with SIGABRT in __libc_message()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982675 | 16:36 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, there happens a segfault and I do not understand why. There is a call 'numvalues = sscanf(resolution, "%dx%d", &xres, &yres)' with xres and yres being integer variables and resolution being a static char[128] array containing "4800CQ". The sscanf should set xres to 4800, numvalues to 1 and leave yres untouched. | 16:39 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: it's not a segfault, it's an assertion failure | 16:42 |
| pitti | looks like double-free | 16:43 |
| pitti | sscanf (string=0x7fff072e67a0 "4800CQ", format=0x7f509f1c168b "%dx%d", args=0x7fff072e2168) at iovsscanf.c:45 | 16:43 |
| pitti | now, that indeed does not match | 16:43 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, but also strange, why should this simple sscanf cause a double free? | 16:44 |
| pitti | well, something went wrong in memory management, not necessraily double free | 16:44 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: but yes, sscanf should just stop scanning at the 'x' | 16:44 |
| tkamppeter | The "4800" matches the first %d, so it should go into xres then the "CQ" does not match "x" which should make sscanf stop, wuith the counter on 1 and yres untouched. | 16:45 |
| pitti | yes, indeed | 16:45 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, so it is not a bug of cups-filters. To which package I should assign that? | 16:45 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: well, it most likely is | 16:46 |
| pitti | there might be some memory corruption happening before this | 16:46 |
| pitti | which just blows up in sscanf | 16:46 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, but the traceback shows that the input parameters are still OK. | 16:47 |
| pitti | right, but memory state might not be | 16:47 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: you could write a small C program with just this sscanf and see whether it works | 16:47 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: or disable parts of the code until you don't get the crash any more, and then see what causes it | 16:47 |
| pitti | good night everyone, have a nice weekend! | 16:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, 'night | 16:58 |
| seb128 | 5539 seb128 20 0 1308m 551m 36m S 2 15.9 65:50.91 firefox | 17:25 |
| seb128 | could firefox stop being a dog? ;-) | 17:25 |
| jbicha | mterry: any idea why I only get a while circle instead of the Kubuntu logo for the KDE session in unity-greeter? | 18:11 |
| jbicha | *white | 18:12 |
| mterry | jbicha, there is a kde_badge.png installed... | 18:12 |
| jbicha | yes, how long has that badge been there, because I've always seen the white circle instead | 18:13 |
| mterry | jbicha, for quite a while. hold on, let me see what the kde session is called, maybe there's a mismatch | 18:13 |
| mterry | jbicha, what do you have in your /usr/share/xsessions/ ? | 18:14 |
| jbicha | kde-plasma.desktop | 18:14 |
| mterry | jbicha, ah... that's why. unity-greeter is expecting just kde | 18:15 |
| mterry | jbicha, did that change or is unity-greeter just being dumb? | 18:15 |
| jbicha | we should probably ask in #kubuntu-devel or something to make sure, I don't use the kubuntu-desktop metapackage but pick and choose parts of KDE | 18:15 |
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| mterry | jbicha, seems kde.desktop doesn't exist in oneiric or precise. I'll patch to add kde-plasma | 18:19 |
| jbicha | mterry: thanks | 18:20 |
| jbicha | I just renamed kde-plasma.desktop to kde.desktop to test it, & the logo looks nice | 18:20 |
| mterry | seb128, are we done with uploads? | 18:42 |
| mterry | pitti, ^ I'm not clear on when the no-respin cutoff is | 18:46 |
| jbicha | mterry: is Kubuntu the only official Ubuntu flavor that's not using lightdm for 12.04? | 18:47 |
| desrt | seb128: i'm done with hud-service scoring bugs | 18:47 |
| mterry | jbicha, I don't know | 18:47 |
| desrt | it's impossible to make everyone happy | 18:48 |
| kenvandine | desrt, if it makes you feel better, i am happy :) | 18:48 |
| desrt | and users expecting to type 2 letters "sh" to match "show only glyphs..." without wanting to type the extra 'o' is pretty.... low on my pity list :p | 18:48 |
| desrt | kenvandine: it does :D | 18:49 |
| kenvandine | glad to help :) | 18:49 |
| desrt | kenvandine: as the distro packager of this stuff maybe you can comment on the bug that you feel that the current algorithms are producing good results for 99% of cases and that it's not worth risking the change at this point | 18:49 |
| kenvandine | desrt, actually i haven't really looked very closely at the relevance of the results, i've just been trying hard to remember to attempt to use the hud :) | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | hard to teach an old dog new tricks :) | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | i do feel it is too late to risk change... | 18:51 |
| desrt | kenvandine: your "i am happy" comment no longer makes me feel better :p | 18:51 |
| desrt | you're only happy because you never use it :) | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | i use it at least a couple times per day :) | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | just not really looking closely at the scoring | 18:53 |
| kenvandine | it just seems to work :) | 18:53 |
| seb128 | desrt, heh, that description is not an accurate one ;-) | 18:58 |
| seb128 | desrt, I would have closed it otherwise :p | 18:58 |
| seb128 | desrt, it does match "indicator > shutdown" before "view > show", when "sh" is an exact mathing of 2 letters for each ;-) | 18:59 |
| desrt | huh? | 19:00 |
| desrt | quoting you: "sh" lists "Device > Shutdown" first and then "View > Show only | 19:00 |
| seb128 | desrt, oh, just read your comment, the different is the trailing string length | 19:00 |
| desrt | glyphs..." from gucharmap | 19:00 |
| desrt | ya | 19:00 |
| seb128 | right | 19:00 |
| seb128 | *Sh*utdown | 19:00 |
| desrt | we had to do that for "savE" to come before "save as" and "save all documents" | 19:00 |
| seb128 | *Show* | 19:00 |
| seb128 | ups | 19:01 |
| seb128 | *Sh*ow | 19:01 |
| desrt | "only glyphs..." | 19:01 |
| seb128 | like they both have a perfect start match | 19:01 |
| desrt | there is a penalty for the extra words | 19:01 |
| desrt | that's what makes "save" match "save" better than "save as" | 19:01 |
| * desrt loves the ambiguity in that sentence | 19:02 | |
| seb128 | desrt, ok, fair enough, I was unsure if the "extra char" penalty was on a word or on the sentend | 19:02 |
| seb128 | sentence | 19:02 |
| desrt | seb128: it used to be only on the word | 19:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, in fact I was close to just mark the bug fix released before john came with an example | 19:03 |
| desrt | i had to add it for extra words as well, for the 'save as' case | 19:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, works for me, I did assing to you to have your opinion but I didn't suspect that it was a tradeoff situation | 19:03 |
| seb128 | i.e that "fixing" it would break other cases | 19:04 |
| seb128 | doh | 19:04 |
| seb128 | didn't->did | 19:04 |
| seb128 | and you can tell it's friday night and I just came back from dinner with a drink ;-) | 19:04 |
| desrt | :) | 19:04 |
| seb128 | that said time to call it a week! | 19:04 |
| desrt | seb128: see you monday | 19:05 |
| desrt | good w/e | 19:05 |
| seb128 | desrt, don't work to much it's friday afternoon, and have a good w.e ;-) | 19:05 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | mmmm, beer | 19:12 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, show off :) | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems that everyone got me beer for my birthday | 19:16 |
| BigWhale | chrisccoulson, my brother got 30 different brand of beers for his 30th birthday. | 19:19 |
| BigWhale | not sure what the rules were for drinking it | 19:19 |
| bryceh | BigWhale, "None must remain by the end of today"? | 19:19 |
| chrisccoulson | BigWhale, yeah, i got quite a few different beers, but all from the same brewery | 19:20 |
| chrisccoulson | and they're all really nice :) | 19:20 |
| BigWhale | I find it somewhat fascinating how man managed to turn almost every plant into an alcoholic drink and if that didn't work, man smoked it. | 19:22 |
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| dobey | BigWhale: you left out direct injection | 20:00 |
| BigWhale | dobey, :)) | 20:03 |
| dobey | i love how a disproportionate number of questions on askubuntu, are not questions at all | 20:04 |
| bryceh | dobey, isn't the rule that 90% of anything is bullpucky? | 20:07 |
| dobey | heh | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, ok, keybinder-3.0 packaged, i'll upload to the ppa as soon as i test it in pbuilder | 20:31 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, Awesome! | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, keybinder-3.0 uploaded to the ppa | 20:38 |
| BigWhale | \o/ | 20:39 |
| BigWhale | the amount of beers I'll be buying at UDS will probably account for a record of some sort | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | i'll settle for just a couple :) | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, it is completely untested, so let me know if it doesn't work :) | 20:41 |
| BigWhale | ok, sure | 20:42 |
| popey | kenvandine: we'll need to do as we did in florida, find a local store and buy a few cases | 20:51 |
| kenvandine | popey, we always do :) | 21:00 |
| popey | heh | 21:01 |
| JanC | ah well, we only have somewhere between 2000 and 4000 different beers here in Belgium... ;) | 21:03 |
| JanC | and I'm pretty sure I drank/sampled at least > 1000 of them :P | 21:03 |
| kenvandine | JanC, that is awesome :) | 21:04 |
| JanC | this just reminds me I should go to the "Hopduvel" again some day... | 21:05 |
| JanC | (which is sort of a beer warehouse in Ghent) | 21:06 |
| JanC | http://www.dehopduvel.be/engels/bieren.html | 21:10 |
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