[02:34] <bazhang> using debian packages with ubuntu: sometimes works. great.
[03:49] <bazhang> rant overload in -ot
[03:49] <bazhang> it may well bring down freenode
[04:01] <dax> nah, freenode brings down itself without needing any help >.>
[04:03] <bazhang> hehe
[07:07] <elky> it's funny cos it's true
[07:08] <Tm_T> elky: ?
 it may well bring down freenode
 nah, freenode brings down itself without needing any help >.>
[07:23] <Tm_T> that
[07:29] <elky> that what?
[07:30] <Tm_T> that I'm blind, thanks (:
[07:30]  * Tm_T should wake up
[07:31]  * dax pours Tm_T some coffee
[07:32]  * elky pours some coffee on Tm_T
[09:46]  * Fuchs brings bazhang down
[14:42] <mneptok> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj8kMmUxkSE
[14:44] <mneptok> oo-WOO-hoo!
[15:01] <mneptok> You're telling' me that you some big hero.
[15:02] <mneptok> There goes my uptime to runlevel zero.
[15:02] <mneptok> Don't bring down. No no no no no. oo-WOO-hoo!
[15:02] <mneptok> I'll tell you once more before runlevel four.
[15:02] <mneptok> Don't bring down.
[15:02] <Fuchs> o.O
[15:03] <oCean> http://i.imgur.com/SRihh.jpg
[15:03] <mneptok> ugh. i'll have that song in my head all day now. thanks ba_zhang.
[15:12] <loppy> Myrtti?
[15:12] <mneptok> loppy: is there something you need from the ops team?
[15:12] <Pici> loppy: can we help you?
[15:12] <loppy> yes
[15:14] <mneptok> loppy: with ... ?
[15:15] <loppy> let me be server too... because everyone is but me
[15:16] <mneptok> loppy: Freenode ircd?
[15:16] <mneptok> loppy: or an Ubuntu op?
[15:16] <knome> loppy, what do you need help with from the operator team?
[15:17] <loppy> just let me be server and i will explain
[15:17] <knome> no.
[15:17] <loppy> why not???
[15:17] <mneptok> loppy: i cannnot do anything about a topic i do not understand. are you talking about Freenode ircd or Ubuntu ops?
[15:17] <mneptok> loppy: "let me be server" is wholly uninformative.
[15:18] <oCean> mneptok: he's forwarded frm #x-ot (ban)
[15:18] <loppy> Kurt von Fick! let me be server
[15:19] <knome> loppy, unless you start making sense, please leave the channel
[15:19] <mneptok> loppy: you seem intent n not answering my simple questions. i'm done.
[15:19] <mneptok> *on
[15:20] <knome> mneptok, you're not on -team?
[15:20] <loppy> o forget it
[15:20] <mneptok> knome: screen and brain real estate issues.
[15:21] <mneptok> knome: last i knew, there was no official business there i would miss. so ...
[15:21] <knome> mneptok, mm-hmm. anyway, as i said there, until i will remove the ban, or anybody else, please make sure he listens
[15:21] <knome> well, it's a good channel to discuss happenings in -ops
[15:21] <mneptok> i consider -ops a better place for that. ;)
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[15:22] <oCean> knome: Myrtti's comments on loppy seem more serious than just making sure he listens
[15:23] <knome> oCean, yeah, but please remember i don't know the history on #ubuntu*
[15:23] <knome> only #xubuntu*
[15:24] <knome> it's very possible he will earn a ban in #xubuntu today, i'm afraid
[15:24] <Pici> ikonia is talking to him in -irc now.
[15:25] <Unit193> He was in #x-ot when Myrtti was and asking where she lived and such.
[15:25] <Pici> And I think we need one person to talk to him here, too many and it gets confusing.
[15:25] <Myrtti> I don't mind him asking where I live as I can totally not tell him
[15:25] <knome> Unit193, ah, well, i didn't read that discussion too closely
[15:25] <Myrtti> what I don't appreciate is the death threats
[15:25] <knome> agreed.
[15:26] <knome> PM's me
[15:26] <mneptok> death threats? :O
[15:26] <knome> no, just "you there?"
[15:26] <Fuchs> :(
[15:26] <Fuchs> don't kill our Myrtti :(
[15:27] <Myrtti> mneptok: when I banned him from #ubuntu
[15:27] <mneptok> appears he's closest to me geographically. but i'm close to the top of the "ops whose homes you do not want to visit uninvited" list.
[15:27] <Pici> it was something like 'tell me where you live so I can kill you'
[15:27] <Myrtti> it always puts relationships under such stress when you do that
[15:28] <Myrtti> Pici: nope, "tell me where you live so I can visit you"
[15:28] <Myrtti> the death threats were before that
[15:28] <Myrtti> but it was fairly benign in comparison to some death threats I've gotten, wasn't graphical at all
[15:29] <mneptok> Myrtti: tell them about the compulsory military service in Finland, and how since the Winter War every family must own a rifle or carbine for each member.
[15:30] <knome> told him to resolve the issue here to get unbanned
[15:30] <mneptok> lopy: what now?
[15:31] <Myrtti> mneptok: nah, scaring people off isn't my thing nor do I recommend it to others
[15:31] <mneptok> Myrtti: that's why it's a silly lie. humor is best.
[15:31] <lopy> i just wanted to tell you that i am sorry how i was acting .
[15:32] <mneptok> lopy: it's going to take more than that to make up for actual death threats.
[15:32] <mneptok> lopy: and i think if the roles were reversed, you'd do the same.
[15:33] <lopy> how do i make it up to you?
[15:33] <mneptok> lopy: death threats are the last resort of small minds.
[15:33] <mneptok> lopy: read these
[15:33] <mneptok> !coc
[15:33] <mneptok> !guidelines
[15:34] <mneptok> lopy: follow those for a few weeks or months. play nice with other users and ops. come back here after a minimum of 4 weeks and your bans can be discussed.
[15:34] <mneptok> lopy: for extra credit, an apology to Myrtti would be good.
[15:35] <mneptok> lopy: let's make that "sincere apology"
[15:35] <lopy> sorry Myrtti.
[15:36] <mneptok> lopy: think about if it was your sister or mother being threatened the way you threatened Myrtti. she's someone's daughter/sister/etc.
[15:37] <mneptok> lopy: for now, please /part this channel. idle as much as you wish in any #*ubuntu-* channels you wish. follow the CoC and IRC Guidelines and things will probably start to change. come back here in 4 weeks.
[15:38] <lopy> i will remember this for a long time and i won't forget it, thanks for reminding me that mneptok....good bye
[15:39]  * mneptok pokes the Myrttitummy and goes for more caffiene
[15:39] <Myrtti> teehee
[15:39] <Myrtti> tickles
[15:41]  * Fuchs hands Myrtti cupcakes with pink icing
[16:03] <jussi> Fuchs: bribes are against the rules.  :P
[16:03] <Fuchs> I see no advantage that could ever bring me, so it's not a bribe :(
[16:04] <jussi> Fuchs: it pays to be nice to Myrtti ;) - then you might not get EMP'd
[16:05] <Fuchs> I was a bit of an idiot today, so being nice is the least I can do. Anyway, heading home, have a nice evening :)
[16:06] <jussi> laters :D
[17:39] <AlanBell> Barnabas is inaccurate
[18:14] <knome> jussi, Unit193 is now a ubuntu member, can you get him a bot cloak?
[18:15] <knome> jussi, i mean, we all know he is a bot, right?
[18:15] <pangolin> he should join -irc and request a cloak like everybody else.
[18:15] <pangolin> just because he is a bot does not make him special :P
[18:15] <knome> pangolin, can one get a bot cloak there?
[18:15] <knome> :P
[18:17] <jussi> is a very small shell script even classed as a bot? :P
[18:19]  * Pici replaces jussi with a very small shell script
[18:19] <knome> muarhar
[19:03] <bazhang> does Kubuntu not fall under the paid support rubric?
[19:03] <bazhang> in regard to angels comment in #ubuntu
[19:03] <Pici> I'm not sure.
[19:04] <Pici> I know that Canonical isn't sponsoring development of Kubuntu anymore, but another company has stepped in to take car of that.
[19:04]  * genii-around sips and ponders the Kubuntu future
[19:06] <Pici> LjL: I'm not sure its at that level though, like 'how to install'
[19:06] <LjL> i wouldn't know
[19:07] <LjL> it's probably not the way to go about learning basic stuff, anyway
[19:07] <pangolin> actually I think it does
[19:07] <LjL> but to each one his own
[19:07] <pangolin> but yeah, paying for that seems silly
[19:35] <mneptok> AFAIR, releases are supported. not derivatives. Canonical should offer support for Kubuntu 10.04.
[19:36] <popey> Kubuntu is a 'flavo{u}r' not a 'derivative'
[19:36] <popey> mint is a pile^W^W^W^Wderivative
[19:36] <bazhang> bwhahaha
[19:37] <popey> s/W/H
[19:37] <bioterror> yes
[19:37] <bioterror> four w's means you deleted all the words
[19:37] <bazhang> strangeworld is a rather unpleasant troll
[19:56] <bazhang> hey
[19:56] <guntbert> hi, wouldn't it be a good idea ™ to discourage the nick unbuntu in #ubuntu?
[19:57] <guntbert> hi bazhang :)
[19:57] <bazhang> guntbert, its the live cd default iirc
[19:58] <guntbert> bazhang: true - so we will have to live with that - or we can get the right persons to change that
[19:59] <Pici> Then we'll spend 20 minutes telling each person how to choose a nick, which will of course be used, so they'll end up with a guest nick and it will be  amess
[19:59] <bazhang> guntbert, that would be great imo, not sure who to contact about that
[20:00] <Pici> I don't think its feasible to change it.
[20:00] <guntbert> Pici: yes, bazhang already convinced me, my next idea was to have the default nick changed
[20:00] <Pici> guntbert: no, thats what I don't think is feasible.
[20:00] <guntbert> Pici: why not?
[20:00] <Pici> guntbert: What would you propose?
[20:01] <guntbert> Pici: ubulive
[20:02] <Pici> guntbert: And what would that acheive?
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Pici: "/lastlog ubulive" would be much more concise than "/lastlog ubuntu" :)
[20:03] <bazhang> heh
[20:03] <guntbert> Pici: it was maybe only my personal view that it is slightly difficult to talk to them in the channel
[20:03] <guntbert> and to follow their discussions
[20:04] <Unit193> Someone could group "Ubuntu" if they use nick protection so that "Ubuntu" gets switched to Guest87423.
[20:04] <dax> I think you're probably better off figuring out how to divert folks away from (I assume) empathy and towards webchat for IRC, since webchat is a far better IRC client :P
[20:04] <Pici> 'ubuntu' is registered to the IRCC account.
[20:06] <dax> and that account has nick protection enabled, so if the nick weren't expired, it would be enforced :P
[20:07] <dax> (I do not claim this would or wouldn't be a good thing, just pointing out mechanics)
[20:08] <guntbert> it might have been the reason for registering and protecting that nick
[20:12] <guntbert> well it is not *that* important - was just an idea I wanted to voice - have a nice time - thank you for your ongoing service to the community :-)
[20:20] <mneptok> "just a program." how insensitive.
[20:20]  * mneptok pets the pythonpile
[20:22] <bazhang> oh plz put idoru in -ot
[20:22] <dax> idoru prevents flooding, not idiocy :P
[20:23] <bazhang> check out hemicuda-flood
 so im here to troll
[20:32] <bazhang> at least he's honest, I guess
[20:36] <bazhang> YES!
[20:39] <Myrtti> ah, it was *him*
[20:39] <bazhang> loppy?
[20:40] <Myrtti> no the person someone reported in -irc earlier
[20:40] <Myrtti> stalker  : az, azWhereIsMike, hemicuda.
[20:41] <Myrtti> /last Guest41493
[20:41] <bazhang> oh right scrolled up
[20:45] <Tasmania> elky
[20:45] <bazhang> Tasmania, whats the issue
[20:45] <Tasmania> I just need to talk about something.
[20:46] <bazhang> Tasmania, ask here. dont target one person
[20:46] <Tasmania> Well, the thing is, It's only supposed to be with the person I
[20:46] <Tasmania> Well, the thing is, It's only supposed to be with the person I'm targeting*
[20:47] <bazhang> Tasmania, this has to with Ubuntu how?
[20:47] <Tasmania> I just need to talk to elky about something, that's all.
[20:47] <bazhang> Tasmania, ask me. no need to target anyone, as that is very unwelcome
[20:48] <Tasmania> No.
[20:48] <Tasmania> You don't get it.
[20:48] <Tasmania> It's just only for elky.
[20:48] <Tasmania> No one else.
[20:48] <Myrtti> you are aware this channel is logged?
[20:48] <Myrtti> and you have all of us ops here watching too?
[20:48] <Myrtti> and you can't exactly stop anyone from talking to you here either?
[20:49] <Tasmania> I know, what does that has to do with anything, I just want to talk to elky.
[20:49] <Pici> Tasmania: I don't know whats going on here, but I don't like it.  I think it would be best if you left.
[20:49] <Tasmania> sure. :D
[20:49]  * dax raises an eyebrow
[23:53] <bazhang> * [tylerthecreator] (~df@46.23.67.123): wangs   PM spammer
[23:55] <dax> bazhang: for which channel?
[23:55] <bazhang> dax, we only share the one channel #ubuntu
[23:55] <dax> bazhang: I know. What are they spamming?
[23:56] <bazhang> tylerthecreator> join #dongforce