[01:07] <svwilliams> quick question for anyone on ... ISO Testing
[01:07] <svwilliams> what is the URL for the hardware profile we're supposed to enter
[09:32] <mvo> jibel: hi, later today when my latest upload was build I would like to test lucid->precise with the upgrader in https://launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/release-upgrader-apt/+packages - is that ok with you? I merged the latest fixes from trunk most notably a potential endless loop fi
[09:32] <mvo> x
[09:38] <jibel> mvo, hi. no problem.
[14:14] <patdk-wk> hmm, rebuilt wait :(
[16:58] <patdk-wk> still rebuilding :(
[18:16] <aantoon> hi, will 12.04 alternate support ssd+trim+luks out of the box or do I have to do some tweaking
[18:24] <aantoon> knock knock
[18:33] <aantoon> I would love an answer
[18:43] <roadmr> aantoon: did you ask in #ubuntu? or askubuntu.com
[18:45] <aantoon> you mean, you don't know the answer? this is ubuntu testing, not?
[18:49] <roadmr> aantoon: I mean: someone in #ubuntu or the askubuntu.com website may know. I don't mean that I don't know the answer, though indeed I don't, but I thought pointing you to places where more people are likely to know was more useful than saying "I don't know"
[18:50] <aantoon> i did google for it and did not get a clear answer, yes i was on askubuntu.com
[18:51] <roadmr> aantoon: I found this, it refers to 10.10 so it's a bit outdated but may be a useful starting point (looks like there's some tweaking to be done): http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[18:52] <roadmr> aantoon: how to activate trim on luks encrypted partitions: http://worldsmostsecret.blogspot.ca/2012/04/how-to-activate-trim-on-luks-encrypted.html
[18:58] <aantoon> on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/115823/trim-on-an-encrypted-ssd they say it is not enabled by default.... but thanks....i just wondered if it was fully supported....guess the answer is no
[19:06] <patdk-wk> aantoon, it won't be
[19:06] <patdk-wk> the dm-.... layer doesn't passthou trim support
[19:06] <patdk-wk> and if it did, you wouldn't want to for encryption anyways, it would unprotect you if you did, and make the encryption not as worth as much
[19:07] <patdk-wk> oh, it looks like they are adding support
[19:07] <patdk-wk> would still give you less protecton if you use it
[19:08] <aantoon> patdk-wk: do you advise to use the old hdd? that means i spent lots of money to get a ssd that i can use?
[19:09] <aantoon> patdk-wk: what do you mean by adding support....where did you get that info
[19:38] <aantoon> I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to proceed as there seems to be differing advice. I see it mentioned online that I should mount with DISCARD. But an article from OpenSUSE says DISCARD is not good to use.
[19:38] <aantoon>  http://opensuse.14.n6.nabble.com/SSD-detection-when-creating-first-time-fstab-td3313048.html
[19:38] <aantoon>  Here are my questions
[19:38] <aantoon>  1.) are there any issues I should be aware of if using ubuntu on an SSD? Is ubuntu primarily intended to be used on HDD and not recommended for SSD?
[19:39] <aantoon>  2.) do you recommend TRIM be used for SSD with ubuntu?
[19:39] <aantoon>  3.) If you do recommend TRIM be used, how should TRIM be setup? Automatic wiping, or manual wiping? FITRIM, FSTRIM, or DISCARD?
[19:39] <aantoon>  I really don't understand any of this in depth, so I'm very thankful for any direction/guidance you can provide
[19:39] <aantoon>  i copyed this from archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss and it is the same questions i have
[19:39] <aantoon>  the mail was not answered so i thought i'll ask it here