[03:04] <bkerensa> pleia2: stupid question but I just got a android and was wondering how I compose a message in the gmail app
[03:04] <bkerensa> :D
[03:05] <bkerensa> ahh nevermind I found it
[03:05] <bkerensa> :D
[03:14] <akk> woo, there's someone newer than me at Android? :)
[04:19] <jyo> jtatum, jledbetter: http://lwn.net/Articles/488900/
[04:20] <jyo> "Duffy suggested coffee drinks, but Richard Fontana observed that some religions find caffeine offensive."
[04:20] <Darkwing> You are not going to be able to pick something that doesn't offend anyone...
[04:21] <Darkwing> That's the sad part
[04:22] <bkerensa> akk: well I have had android tablets but this is different
[04:22] <pleia2> I'm just glad they got Beefy Miracle (and all the childhood boy humor that came with it) out of their system ;)
[04:22] <pleia2> bkerensa: ics?
[04:22] <bkerensa> yeah
[04:22] <pleia2> ics gmail is annoying
[04:23] <pleia2> they try to be clever, but I still always forget how to switch accounts and browse labels
[04:23] <pleia2> labels? we don't need labels!
[04:23] <pleia2> the browser too
[04:23]  * pleia2 just taps around a lot
[04:24] <pleia2> figuring out copy/paste was fun too
[04:24] <pleia2> except without the fun part
[04:24] <pleia2> :\
[05:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: have you used Cyanogenmod at all?
[05:33] <pleia2> bkerensa: nah, my phone isn't a device in my life I like to mess with since I depend upon it for a lot of things
[05:33] <pleia2> (contact with family, work, etc)
[06:51] <philipballew> That koney2012 thing is tomorrow... Not going to go out tomorrow night then...
[15:49] <jledbetter> jyo: Oh wow.
[15:56] <Darkwing> bkerensa: you use CM?
[17:11] <kdub> "pulseaudio -k " is quickly becoming my new favorite command
[17:13] <pleia2> :\
[17:14]  * akk suggests apt-get purge pulseaudio -- you only have to type it once
[17:18] <MarkDude> pleia2, would next weekend work for doing an installfest for Partimus?
[17:18]  * MarkDude has at least 3-4 P4s
[17:18] <MarkDude> grantbow, already said he can most likely make it
[17:19] <MarkDude> Also, let me know when you want to go to baseball game
[17:19] <pleia2> MarkDude: CACS doesn't have a lab anymore so most of the systems are in storage
[17:19] <pleia2> not sure we have an active target for installs at the moment (some schools probably need visits and review, but we're not there yet)
[17:20] <MarkDude> All the labs?
[17:20] <pleia2> there are labs out there, but none that we have talked with lately about doing installs and improvemens
[17:21] <MarkDude> Timeframe for picking the next school(s)?
[17:22] <pleia2> we need to have a discussion about it, we've been super busy lately helping clean up CACS post-fire
[17:22] <pleia2> and getting everything into storage
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[17:23] <pleia2> sorry :\
[17:24] <MarkDude> Well it's not your fault :)
[17:24] <pleia2> you're welcome to send any ideas to the discussion list: discussion@lists.partimus.org
[17:24] <pleia2> at least it's then on everyone's radar that you have some donations in the wings and may be availble
[17:25] <pleia2> I think we got rid of a lot of junky p4s (poorly maintained, less than a gig of ram)
[17:26] <pleia2> we just don't have the storage space to keep them, and we need systems with 1G+ of ram these days
[17:36] <kdub> akk: i havent tried to remove pulse... :P not a bad idea
[17:37] <kdub> i think when its trying to combine all the audio streams, it crashes... like an IM notification commonly crashes playing music
[17:37] <kdub> oh well :)
[17:37] <akk> kdub: I've never had it ... I don't do anything remotely fancy enough with audio that I'd need it.
[17:45] <dax> Same. ALSA's always worked absolutely fine for me.
[17:45] <dax> just ALSA**
[18:39] <philipballew_> pleia2, breakfast with Mark, must have been a fun time :)
[18:40] <pleia2> philipballew_: yeah, it was good :)
[18:40] <pleia2> the hotel he's staying at for the openstack conference is less than a block from where I live, so it was easy for me to pop over there
[18:40] <philipballew_> nice! that guy makes you look like you dont travel he travels so much.
[18:43] <philipballew_> I herd the openstack thing went over really well
[18:44] <pleia2> he is quite the jetsetter :)
[18:45] <pleia2> but a lot of canonical folks travel a lot
[18:47] <philipballew_> So he comes to The bay area one week then goes somewhere else for a week just to come back to the bay by a week from this monday for the all canonical meetings. Crazy...
[18:47] <pleia2> yup
[18:48] <philipballew_> planes are cool!!!
[18:48] <pleia2> they are, and once you start traveling a lot the cross country flight seems much shorter
[18:48] <pleia2> (now flying to budapest...)
[18:49] <pleia2> or sydney, gah, sydney is far
[18:49] <pleia2> I haven't been yet
[18:49] <philipballew_> I get to go to Hew Hampature on one in a month and a half. I do the norcal to socal drive about 12 times a year so I can handle a 5 hour flight maybe
[18:49] <philipballew_> uds -r the outback edition
[18:50] <philipballew_> down under
[19:05] <akk> The sydney flight is brutal.
[19:05] <akk> I love airplanes in concept, but I don't much like commercial airplane travel.
[19:05] <akk> Except the beginning and end parts where you can look out the window. :)
[19:08] <bkerensa> :D I just got a box of Canonical love... a new Ubuntu Mug and Juju T-shirt
[19:08] <philipballew_> bkerensa, howd you get that and why?
[19:09] <bkerensa> philipballew: anyone who writes a Juju charm gets a Juju Shirt and Ubuntu Mug
[19:10] <philipballew_> oh, nice! I should write one...
[19:10] <philipballew_> ill use a odd language.
[19:10] <philipballew_> time to bust out my fortran skills
[19:11] <bkerensa> philipballew: http://imgur.com/fbDHC
[19:12] <philipballew_> I have a blue shirt like that, its soon going to be a tank top...
[19:13] <philipballew_> those mugs look nice, ‎I can be super hipster with my non plastic mug and showcasing my non-mainstreaming operating system
[19:14] <philipballew_> bkerensa, you a coffee or tea drinker?
[19:14] <bkerensa> philipballew: If I had to pick between the two.... Tea
[19:15] <pleia2> the women's sizes were grey instead or pretty purple :(
[19:15] <pleia2> but at least they existed!
[19:16] <akk> Was there anything about juju at scale? I'd never heard of it before chatter here a few days ago
[19:16] <Darkwing> Well, it's offical...
[19:16] <akk> and I'm still having trouble figuring out what it is from googling -- everything written about it assumes you already know.
[19:16] <pleia2> akk: yeah, they did a "charm school" on Friday
[19:17]  * Darkwing sighs.
[19:17] <bkerensa> akk: Juju is DevOps distilled.... In a nutshell "Juju Charms are a combination of scripts that allow DevOps to rapidly deploy services to the Cloud"
[19:17] <philipballew_> the mens sizes were all xl and up so I took a womens large and calld it good
[19:17] <bkerensa> Charms can be written in any major/common language
[19:17] <philipballew_> what happened Darkwing
[19:18] <Darkwing> Getting divorced.
[19:18] <bkerensa> :(
[19:18] <akk> bkerensa: That's the sort of thing that all the pages I find say. I'm coming to the conclusion that if you don't work in DevOps, you should just conclude "whatever juju is, it's not aimed at me."
[19:18] <philipballew_> Oh no
[19:19] <akk> Darkwing: Sorry to hear that! :(
[19:19] <Darkwing> Yeah :/
[19:19] <pleia2> Darkwing: so sorry :(
[19:19] <philipballew_> Is there anything I or anyone here can do to help you out here in this time?
[19:19] <bkerensa> Darkwing: Sorry to hear it... In my last long term I didn't know things were ending until my spouse showed up with some random guy to pick up her stuff
[19:20] <akk> Ugh, that is not a good way to find out.
[19:20] <Darkwing> 8 years and 3 kids... at least we are on the same page and it's not going to be a fight.
[19:20] <akk> But I guess there's no good way.
[19:21] <akk> No fight is good, anyway.
[19:21] <Darkwing> yeah. it still sux but..
[19:22] <akk> Yeah, divorce always sucks, even when it's a "friendly" one. :(
[19:22]  * pleia2 nods
[19:23] <philipballew_> Peace is always the goal
[19:24] <philipballew_> friendly always helps
[19:25] <Darkwing> BBL
[19:27] <bkerensa> akk: here is one of the hook scripts from the 2nd charm I am writing so you can get a idea of how it works http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/charms/oneiric/openphoto/trunk/view/head:/hooks/install
[19:27] <bkerensa> ^ is just rough draft and I still have like five hooks to write and will be converting from bash to python
[19:29] <akk> bkerensa: And what does it do? Something like, install all the dependencies and set up a web service?
[19:29] <dax> funny, over in #ubuntu and apt-get -y is considered harmful and we've banned mentioning certain scripts for using it
[19:30] <dax> land **
[19:30]  * akk would probably make yourdomain.com a variable so the user doesn't have to do a global substitute on the script, but maybe that's part of juju.
[19:30] <bkerensa> akk well in that case it will deploy a fully functional instance of openphoto.me front end that is ready to use out of the box with no further configuration required
[19:30] <bkerensa> dax: Well the idea is when you run juju bootstrap your charm will install everything without hanging
[19:31] <bkerensa> akk: ^ it will thats in a very non-frosty state atm
[19:32] <bkerensa> akk: actually when I add openphoto.yaml that will handle replacement of yourdomain.com and any other settings
[19:33] <akk> So is that generally what charms are? Install and set up a web service?
[19:34] <bkerensa> akk: yes unless Canonical expands their usage