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xerxes_does anyone know an solution for Grooveshark ?00:00
ariel__yep its on opt i followed a guide online but it didnt really help00:00
cyrexxerxes_, What seems to be the problem with Flash in the beginning?00:00
xerxes_cyrex: well no matter what i did, the adobe-flashplugin AND the flashplugin installer / flashplugin-nonfree didnt work00:00
cyrexariel__, I normally put it on my desktop ^^, anyway go inside the aptana folder you decompressed, find the binary, right click on it and make sure it has the "executable" flag activated00:01
xerxes_cyrex: it's a really old machine i dunno why it didnt work it didnt even load and i can confirm that i saw it was there in both firefox & opera while typing about:plugins00:01
xerxes_but the youtube part is solved i just need a solution for grooveshark00:01
xerxes_some ppl have some threads about a web application galled gsharkdown but that didnt work neither i search an artist and nothing happens probably grooveshark has changed their API00:02
cyrexxerxes_, Just to check, did you try chrome. If it worked with Chrome you might want to reinstall flash. For the Grooveshark, what is the problem with it?00:02
xerxes_cyrex: i tried both with chrome firefox + opera00:02
xerxes_cyrex: youtube part is solved with gnash00:02
Guest65389does anyone know how to install mindguard00:02
xerxes_so we can leave it like that.00:02
xerxes_cyrex: the problem is when i visit grooveshark.com i just get an notification in the middle of my browser telling me bla bla flash does not work reload the site00:03
hoshi411after installing the onboard keyboard from source, i keep getting the error that it needs a gsettings schema00:03
hoshi411google really is giving me no help witht hat00:03
hoshi411so i came here00:03
hoshi411i checked and i do have a package installed on my system with the name gsettings-schemas... but for some reason i need this schema thing for the onboard keyboard specifically00:04
cyrexxerxes_, Sorry give me a second am on the ubuntu meeting00:06
ariel__cyrex i checked it is executiveable00:07
ariel__i dont know whats the problem00:07
zykotick9xerxes_: i highly doubt gnash will work with groveshark, and you can only have one flash implementation at a time...00:08
xerxes_zykotick9: ok then what is your advice ?00:08
zykotick9xerxes_: don't use groveshark.  try proprietary flash...00:09
xerxes_zykotick9: i tried that but still i cant get it to work mate00:09
xerxes_i tried both flashplugin-installer and -nonfree00:09
xerxes_+ i tried ubuntu-restricted-extras00:09
xerxes_still no go..00:09
xerxes_but with gnash it worked00:09
zykotick9xerxes_: long time ago it worked for me - i've stopped using non-free web services/programs since that time though...  good luck man.00:10
cryptopsyi've started an ubuntu channel for our group of people, please come check us out at ##ubuntu-niggers , thanks!00:10
BarkingFish!ops request to remove cryptopsy - racist comments in #ubuntu00:11
ubottuBarkingFish: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:11
BarkingFishI hate that ops thing - I can never get it to work properly00:11
Jordan_UBarkingFish: !ops | message to the ops goes here00:12
zykotick9BarkingFish: use "!ops | NICKINQUESTION reason after" ;)00:12
xerxes_zykotick9: isnt there like any API or any workaround to play Grooveshark in rhytmbox ?00:12
xerxes_or something like that00:12
zykotick9xerxes_: sorry i wouldn't know...00:12
gtmanfredI am trying to make a usb key with many different distos, right now, I am stuck on ubuntu 11.10, my goal is to set it up to use syslinux so that I can use extlinux --install and chainload to it from one partition which contains grub legacy.  Does anyone have an idea on how to do this? right now I have changed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg, and done the extlinux --install which worked on openSUSE, but on ubuntu00:12
gtmanfredIt starts to load the screen like it normally would but then throws me into the intramfs shell, saying it can't find something00:12
BarkingFishok. I'll remember that. It confuses me cause it doesn't work the same way other Ubottu fired commands do00:12
gtmanfredhold on and I will get teh exact message00:12
BarkingFishothers you can use !whatever-goes-here  follow it with something else, and it's gone, like !info whatever version00:13
CJKayThought I'd let any Canonical devs know about this video. Good job on 12.04 :P www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp2Sqe-Oa5g00:15
Jordan_UBarkingFish: All of the factoid commands are the same, the idea being that you use "!factoid | Nick_of_person_you_want_to_send_factoid_to" ("piping" the factoid to the person you want it to go to). !ops is just a factoid command which happens to contain a list of all the ops nicks to get their attention.00:15
tbrown2012I need help I cant open a terminal when it trys to open it says that I need to search for a program or a file please does anyone know about this00:16
tbrown2012I need help I cant open a terminal when it trys to open it says that I need to search for a program or a file please does anyone know about this00:16
BarkingFishJordan_U, Ah. Ok - I didn't realise you'd have to pipe the ops command to the ops, I thought that was a straight firealarm to you :)00:16
D4nt3AlighieriI need to install Ubuntu on my laptop. Only problem is it can't drive the screen without proprietary drivers enabled. Is there any way I can have that enabled in the bootcd so I don't have to hook my laptop up to another monitor just to install Ubuntu?00:17
steveoliverI think I've messed up my settings -- when I log in I get an old-school looking UI -- not the sexy black skin on Ubuntu 11.10 -- Guest accounts look great, but my one account "Steve" got messed up...  any ideas?00:18
apwbdjpD4nt3Alighieri, can't use the screen at all? Tried with an alternate CD? (text version)00:18
Jordan_UBarkingFish: It is, you're not "piping" it to us, as all our nicks are included in the factoid already, the !ops factoid also has a secondary effect of sending whatever comes after the '|' to #ubuntu-ops. If in doubt, just use "!ops" and we'll figure it out.00:19
tbrown2012I need some help please I cant open a terminal application I dont know if this is the right one is says terminal emulator and when I try to launch it or something it says " Please choose your preferred termnial emulator now and click ok to proceed.":(00:19
D4nt3Alighierilog out and change the gui via the gear icon next to your username00:19
D4nt3Alighierinote to self: never try to boot 2 virtual machines at the same time >.>00:20
gtmanfredoh... no error message just drops me into initramfs00:21
steveoliverD4nt3Alighieri "log out and change the gui via the gear icon next to your username" didn't work -- tried it00:21
steveoliver...I thought that would do it, but no...00:21
steveoliveryeah, so now all my scroll bars, etc, are all old school00:22
tbrown2012Can some one here me type 12300:22
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vamadirif i use dd with win7.iso. Can i create live usb with win7??00:22
Guest4890my computer turns off randomly00:22
tbrown2012steveoliver: Okay I deed not know because no one was answering me can you help me please00:22
L3toptypically Guest4890 that is overheating.00:22
steveolivertbrown2012: probably not :/00:23
gtmanfredtbrown2012: what is the exact error message?00:23
Guest4890I check my temps they are normal00:23
Guest4890it just does it randomly00:23
Guest4890with no warning00:23
Guest4890temps are normale00:24
tbrown2012gtmanfred: Okay when I try to run the terminal emulator it says faild to execute default terminal emullator00:24
L3topIs it a laptop or a desktop?00:24
steveoliverso what do you call the "theme" in Ubuntu ? theme??00:24
steveoliverUI ?00:24
Guest4890i contacted dell they said its drivers are they righ?00:25
usr13steveoliver: Desktop Enviornment?00:25
tbrown2012is there a keyboard shortcut for a terminal or something00:25
L3topwhat video chipset is it Guest4890?00:25
usr13tbrown2012: There will be if you create one.00:25
steveoliverusr13: yeah?  thanks00:25
Guest4890its integrated00:25
Guest4890intel hd300000:25
tbrown2012usr13: How can you do that?00:26
usr13tbrown2012: (I use F12)00:26
L3topwhat version of ubuntu?00:26
bastidrazortbrown2012: ctrl alt t  ..is the default00:26
gtmanfredtbrown2012: should bt ctrl+alt+t if i remember from when i used ubuntu00:26
blackr00tsyshello sir00:26
gosh_jrib: you there?00:26
blackr00tsysi want ask about ubuntu sir00:26
usr13I dono tbrown2012, depends on which Desktop Enviornment you use.00:26
blackr00tsysgnome sir00:27
L3topI have not encountered those sort of issues Guest4890. What I would suggest is looking through /var/log/dmesg and see what was happening when it crashed.00:27
L3topThat might reveal where to start looking00:27
L3topor immediately after a crash might be easier00:28
L3topdmesg log is big00:28
gtmanfredtbrown2012: might see if gnome-terminal or xterm are installed?00:28
L3topask blackr00tsys.00:29
gtmanfredanyway, anyone had experience changing the livecd to use syslinux instead of grub2?00:29
tbrown2012gtmanfred: It was not installed so I installed it and no luck what happen to it I installed winehq and I update xubuntu and nothing went wrong so I dont know am so confused00:30
usr13tbrown2012: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts00:30
L3topyou can try unetbootin gtmanfred. I believe it uses syslinux... but dont quote me00:30
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Tim_HortonsIs getting a ubuntu cloak fairly hard or easy?00:31
gtmanfredL3top: yeah, it does, but it also overwrites mbr00:31
L3topyes it does00:31
L3topbut should be usable00:31
L3topwhat specifically are you trying to do00:31
bastidrazor!cloak | Tim_Hortons00:31
ubottuTim_Hortons: To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.00:31
gtmanfredwhich is what I am trying to avoid, I already have fedora16, fedora17, archiso dual, openSUSE, and supergrubdisk(which is booted from mbr to chainload the rest)00:33
gtmanfredi am trying to get it formated so that I can use syslinux to load ubuntu00:33
gtmanfredall of these are the live cds00:33
Jordan_Ugtmanfred: It's easier to loop boot the Ubuntu iso file via grub2, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg.00:34
L3topIf I understand you correctly, I think remastersys is what you are after gtmanfred00:34
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gtmanfredok, will try both thank you00:34
ariel__can anybody tell me where to install java 1.5 i cant seem to find the package00:34
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usr13ariel__: Use the synaptic00:35
apwbdjpariel__, type java and bash should give you some suggestions of candidates packages00:35
Logan_ariel__: Why would you want Java 1.5?00:36
ariel__aptana i cant seem to get it working00:37
ariel__i recently deleted it from opt00:37
Logan_ariel__: Do you have any form of Java installed?00:39
ariel__just jdk why00:40
Logan_If not, then I'd recommend doing: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre00:40
gosh_jrib: hello?00:43
tbrown2012I need some help I right click terminal and I edit the launcher it says Name: Terminal Emulator Command: Use the command Line Command: host working directory: see I deed not miss with anything in the edit launcher when I got done installing winehq it deed not work after that the "terminal" Please help00:47
tbrown2012Please someone help me00:49
Tigerboytbrown2012: what is wrong?00:50
tbrown2012Tigerboy: I cant run the terminal00:50
CJKaytbrown2012: Does Ctrl+Alt+T do anything?00:51
Tigerboytry to install gnome-terminal?00:51
cyrexI normally change the terminal shortcut to that little key right next to the Right Alt00:52
cyrexthat way, press: TERMINAL!00:52
tbrown2012CJKay: I tryed that already lol. Tigerboy: I installed it already I went to the software store and I search for it and I installed it last time but before all of this it work like a charm I update xubuntu00:52
CJKayOh you didn't say you were on Xubuntu00:53
Tigerboytbrown2012: you will find the program under Accessories called "terminal"00:53
tbrown2012Tigerboy: Yes I went to Accessories and know it pops up a windows saying Failed to execute default terminal Emulator Faild to execute child process "/home/tbrown2012/Desktop/exo-terminal-emulator.desktop" (permission Denied) I have not Idea what this means I know that I dont have permison but am the main administrator for this computer00:55
Tigerboytbrown2012: can you see the icon on your desktop?00:56
Tigerboytbrown2012: called exo-terminal or just terminal00:57
tbrown2012Tigerboy: Yes I>_I00:57
fishcookeris there any cool apps for monitoring from cli?00:57
Tigerboytbrown2012: just right click it and properties then check the execute box00:57
Tigerboytbrown2012: or rather allow executing00:58
tbrown2012Tigerboy: General: Emblems: Permissions: Launcher: I dont see a execute box in each of them?00:59
Tigerboytbrown2012: check allow executing file as program or something similar01:00
tbrown2012Tigerboy: I dont see it?01:01
Tigerboytbrown2012: do you see anything in permissions that would allow you to change it to your log on name and give it full powers ? read write execute or the number 701:02
aaasi keep getting importererror when trying to run a python script after running 'sudo python setup.py install' and sucessfullly installing a python module, is there something special that needs to be done to put the python module in a path or something?01:02
tbrown2012In permission I see Group: And it has tbrown2012 my user name do I put something else01:03
tbrown2012Tigerboy: In permission I see Group: And it has tbrown2012 my user name do I put something else01:04
Tigerboytbrown2012: no that is fine and for owner the same with full permission01:04
tbrown2012Tigerboy: Know in the Launcher should the command be exo-open--launch terminalEmulator01:05
Tigerboytbrown2012: you must set it so it has full permissions including execute usually there is a box at the bottom01:05
gtmanfredJordan_U: L3top hmm, i am not sure either of those will work, is there not something similar to extlinux --install for grub2?01:06
Tigerboytbrown2012:  that is for another terminal program-- it should work you just don't have the execute flag turned on01:06
tbrown2012Tigerboy: how do I turn the flag on or something?01:07
gtmanfredi just need a way to activate the bootloader on that partition so that I can chainload to it01:07
Tigerboytbrown2012 without a terminal to type in you have to use the file manager which requires right-click then selecting properties tab which should allow you to turn on execute01:07
tbrown2012Tigerboy: So what is the application should run in the file manager or do you want me to put the file manager on the desktop and right click it and go to properties and aloow you to turn on execute or something01:10
Tigerboytbrown2012: do you have thunar or nautilus installed?01:11
L3topgtmanfred: remastersys will create a live cd that is syslinux based. As far as a switch to get around grub, I do not know of one.01:12
L3topgtmanfred: that does not mean one does not exist... I am just ignorant of it01:12
gtmanfredL3top: i don't have ubuntu installed which is I believe what is required01:12
Tigerboytbrown2012: if you have nautilus installed launch it and go to Desktop -- find the icon and follow the instructions I gave you.01:13
tbrown2012Tigerboy: AM installing Konsole Terminal is that the right one and I dont know if I have thunar or Nautileus Installed01:13
apwbdjptbrown2012, Any terminal is good, the choice is really up to you, you can try them all01:15
L3topI would assume you could boot live, install remastersys, and clone the live dvd onto another dvd... might run out of space actually, now that I think about it... but perhaps you could mount another drive with more space and set the cloning operations to run there... was just an idea01:15
apwbdjptbrown2012, and to see if an app is installed, just type it in a terminal, and hit enter.01:15
Tigerboytbrown2012: also try gnome-terminal01:15
tbrown2012Tigerboy: I have Gnome_terminal Installed Already were can I find it I cant find it01:16
L3topapt-cache policy <application> will tell you if it is installed, and what candidates exist.01:16
gtmanfredL3top: hmm, I might try that in a minute, right now, I am going to just try to boot it directly without chainloading01:16
Tigerboytbrown2012: you can create a launcher for it on desktop just use the command gnome-terminal -- it should have left an icon in the menu when you installed it called just "Terminal"01:17
Tigerboyjust use gnome-terminal be careful not to capitalize it.01:18
gtmanfredhmm, yeah now i get to initramfs quicker...i wonder if there is just a way to get to the try this blah blah screen from here?01:20
tbrown2012Tigerboy: Thank you for all your help I got it to work Man you are smart01:24
gtmanfredis there any way to long the gui for the live cd from busybox?01:25
* L3top isn't sure what you are doing...01:26
L3topYou could try unsquashing the root fs from the dvd into something, chrooting it, and remastering from there01:26
L3topAgain, just thinking out loud01:26
gtmanfredhmm, that sounds better... i think the problem is when I get to the isolinux menu, it has skipped loading something from grub2...01:28
L3topremastersys will create its own menu.01:29
L3topYou can too.01:29
gtmanfredok, i think i am just going to have to load this think up the old fashioned way and go for it01:29
hayloremastersys works with zero technical expertise- just be real careful with it - keep all users and passwords the same01:29
haylodont use updates just make a very controlled system , add one thing at a time and remaster over and over01:30
L3topremastersys only carries over temporary users I believe, and uses ubiquity to install01:30
gtmanfredhaylo: i don't have ubuntu installed, i am going to try and do it for the live cd though01:30
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L3topwait there are two options... dist or backup or something.01:30
hayloyeah i would install to usb instead gtmanfred . build on that and then remaster01:31
L3topdist will give you a clean version without users01:31
hayloinstall to usb like it is a hard drive gtmanfred01:31
L3topbut as you have your sys configured.01:31
gtmanfredyeah, i think that is what I am goin to do, ugh...01:31
L3topon the bright side, you can install some desired programs prior to remaster01:32
hayloyeah chose the one that makes both at once- dont worry about your home folder- just make that slim- it can be backed up normally as data anyway01:32
gtmanfredL3top: only reason I want to do this is to have all the live cds on one usb so I can install tehm for a bunch of people this weekend01:32
L3topI see.01:32
gtmanfredhmm, maybe if i search for bootsector and grub2... hold on01:33
L3topYou could just create aa custom bootloader01:33
hayloyou dont remaster a libve cd- ive treid01:33
haylotons of times believe me01:33
L3topjust leave the isos as they are01:33
gtmanfredyeah i am thinking ahh there we go if you want to install grub2 to a boot sector do this01:33
haylobut go ahead and give it a whirl01:33
gtmanfredok, i think i found what i was looking for ... now to try it01:34
hayloits not going to work01:34
hayloim trying to tell you01:35
L3topThere is no reason it shouldnt work.01:35
_schism_has anyone used ubuntu with the arm realview platform by any chance?01:35
haylowell it could wirk- but i dont think it will. i thnk you do that with dd , make sustem changes but keep live format01:36
haylotrying to do it with remaster i think is wrong way- ive been scolded over and over for even trying- and in the end it didnt work01:37
L3topYou can loop mount the raw image itself and remaster it.01:37
L3topI use a similar process to make our kubu based iso.01:37
hayloL3top, which kubu based iso may ask? the official?01:38
L3topour project is built on kubuntu, I was referring to our iso, not kubuntus.01:40
deper29hey, quick question. If I am on my home network and try to ssh to my desktop using ssh fermat, it doesn't work. If I try to ssh it works. investigated a bit, and it says in dd-wrt the hostname is *01:40
L3topI think this may be getting off topic01:40
deper29how would I go about fixing that?01:40
Jordan_Ugtmanfred: I would personally just install grub2 instead of grub legacy, but if you want to continue using grub legacy as your primary bootloader you can install grub2 (with no boot sector) via "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mountpoint_of_your_flash_drives_partition /dev/sda --grub-setup=/bin/true". Then load if from grub legacy via "root (hdX,Y); kernel /grub/core.img".01:40
L3topJordan_U: I believe he is using syslinux01:41
haylogrub legacy doesnt even work with remastersys01:41
gtmanfredno i am using grub legacy as the main mbr01:41
* L3top should know better than to question Jordan_U01:41
L3topbecause you are all shades of clever, and I am a derp.01:42
Jordan_UL3top: That was actually "/away", I'm not sure why only the 'y' got through :)01:42
hayloL3top, i dont think you are a derp01:42
clausenwhat does -pae mean on linux kernel packages?01:44
Daekdroom!pae | clausen01:44
ubottuclausen: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info01:44
DaekdroomIt's necessary for the CPU to support it, however.01:44
nyquist333Hi. What is the default cipher mode (hopefully AES-XTS, SHA512) setup with the alternate installer using dm-crypt and LVM? Do I have to setup my LVM and dm-crypt by hand to use AES-XTS for full disk encryption? Thanks.01:45
clausenDaekdroom, thanks01:45
newbiecan anyone give me tips for using unbuntu for first time?01:45
L3tophaylo: this is my psychotic way of making an iso http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/browser/people/l3mce/lmcemaster.sh01:45
clausenDaekdroom, that link doesn't explain why there are separate packages01:45
Xtremenewbie: man <appname>01:45
clausenDaekdroom, is there some disadvantage to PAE-enabled kernels?01:46
Daekdroomclausen, not every processor out there supports it.01:46
nyquist333@newbie - Well you're on IRC that's a start. Do you have your email and web-browser setup? Explore the software center.01:46
gtmanfredJordan_U: is that with the grub-install from legacy or grub2?01:46
clausenDaekdroom, oh, you mean it won't boot?01:46
DaekdroomFrom 12.04 LTS and following releases, the PAE kernel will be used by default.01:46
hayloL3top, if you keep doing crazy iso things people will make fun of you- it hapened to me. remember a good system can last ten years01:46
clausenDaekdroom, that's surprising!  (that one kernel can't support both)01:46
Viking667won't work on my laptop then... it doesn't have PAE on the CPU01:47
Jordan_Ugtmanfred: grub2.01:47
gtmanfredfigured, ok thanks01:47
Jordan_Ugtmanfred: You're welcome.01:48
clausenDaekdroom, anyway, thanks for the explanation :)01:48
Viking667Now, I have a question. I'm trying to update the default version of java to the java-7-openjdk, but the command fails.01:48
gtmanfredJordan_U: really appreciate it :-D01:49
L3topOur system is designed to be an appliance. This is what creates the daily snapshots after the build. Our iso is designed to be idiot proof... the problem is I am the idiot making it.01:49
newbiethx nyquist01:49
Viking667In essence, I did this:  update-java-alternatives --jre --set java-7-openjdk-i386   and got this:  update-java-alternatives: file does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/.java-7-openjdk-i386.jinfo01:49
newbiei think i have it setup01:49
Viking667Instead, I have this file here: /usr/lib/jvm/.java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386.jinfo01:50
Viking667should I symlink that sucker?01:50
L3topcp ftw01:50
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Viking667Well, that worked.01:52
Viking667Now, time to relaunch eclipse.01:52
upsetThis is pretty dumb, but... I installed Gnome 3 and now suddenly flash videos are broken. I'm not really sure how.01:53
Viking667I'm wondering if your browser was calling the gnash plugin instead.01:55
Viking667 See what plugins your browser lists... if it's google-chrome, then <shrug> as that comes with its own flash.01:55
upsetViking667: Good point, maybe it still works in Chrome.01:55
Viking667often, about:plugins will tell you what your browser sees.01:55
* L3top would just apt-get install --reinstall flashpugin-instaler01:57
Viking667that would do the job, I guess.01:57
Viking667wow. I missed that one.01:57
L3topapt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer01:57
deadmundI have a netbook and it isn't quite powerful enough to play h.264 at 720p using totem or vlc. What can I do to get around this issue?  (I'm considering right now using ffmpeg to convert to something else)01:58
upsetdeadmund: What netbook is it?01:59
Zontarthat's probably your best option01:59
Zontaranother option is downsize it to your screen res01:59
upsetupset: You can get a decent boost from jupiter.01:59
upsetupset: It's also really handy. Adds an hour of battery life when in power saving mode01:59
ReXHaviKwhich programming language is this line from?   exec wish "$0" "$@"02:00
upsetL3top: Worked! You're awesome.02:01
gtmanfredlooks like bash to me02:01
gtmanfredmaybe zsh02:01
deadmundupset: acer aspire one.  It has an atom processor02:02
upsetdeadmund: Probably the 450, right?02:02
upsetdeadmund: There's also a slight boost you may get from bumping up your ram, but it depends02:02
papapinoapocalypto ita02:03
upsetdeadmund: Mostly jupiter as a safe overclocking tool is helpful02:03
deadmundupset: IDK if it's a 450, lemme look at the model number02:03
bazhangpapapino, not here02:03
deadmundupset: you think overclocking will give me enough of a performance boost to play h.264?02:03
upsetdeadmund: Mmm, maybe02:03
upsetdeadmund: It's worth a shot, and you might just keep jupiter even if it doesn't play to your liking. I swear it makes a world of difference.02:04
gtmanfredReXHaviK: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide02:04
gtmanfredthat is a good bash guide ↑02:04
mraxilusHello, does anyone know a way of turning off the secondary monitor via keyboard shortcuts instead of manually changing the monitor settings?02:05
deadmundupset: jupiter isn't in the repos?  Link please?02:05
deper29sorry, I rebooted. does anyone have any suggestions at all?02:05
upsetdeadmund: You can google as well as I can02:05
upsetdeadmund: should be in the webupd8 repositories specifically, though02:06
ReXHaviKgtmanfred, i am more interested in the sole 'wish' portion of the command line, thnks02:06
upsetSo, my second problem. Gnome 3's theming is broken. Changing it manually with dconf-editor does nothing, and extensions neither show in gnome-tweak-tool nor in the appropriate folder.02:06
deadmundupset: thanks02:06
gtmanfredReXHaviK: i got it as this http://tcl.sourceforge.net/02:07
ReXHaviKtl is part of tk or the other way around?02:07
Viking667tcl feeds tk02:07
ReXHaviKgtmanfred, tcl, thanks, thats the missing package, thnks02:08
gtmanfredmraxilus: not sure if ubuntu uses it, but xrandr --output <monitorname> --off ?02:08
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Viking667tk's like the "gui" bit on top of tcl02:08
mraxilusgtmanfred: how do I find my monitor's names?02:08
gtmanfredmraxilus: just type xrandr02:08
gtmanfredshould say like HDMI-1 VGA-1 or something like that02:08
Viking667they could be CRT1/2 too02:09
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Viking667... at least that's what the Catalyst Xorg driver reports to xrandr.02:09
mraxilusgtmanfred: yay it works... now how do I turn it back on?02:09
gtmanfredmraxilus: xrandr --output <name> --auto02:10
zcat_trying to build latest tuxmath (with network game) on ubunto 10.04 .. is there any easier way? I found a tuxmath ppa for 8.04 but it seems abandoned and doesn't work02:10
gtmanfredor --mode WidthxHeight02:10
Viking667gtmanfred: would mirror be turned on by default?02:10
mraxilusyes it is02:10
gtmanfredViking667: probably02:10
mraxilushmm, I would like to load it back as secondary again02:11
Viking667 hm. then add   --output blah1 --right-of blah002:11
gtmanfredmraxilus: xrandr --output <monitorone> --<direction>-of <monitortwo>02:11
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gtmanfredautomate it with an alias in .bashrc02:11
sudiptacan anyone tell me what is added advantage of using a AMD64 ubuntu image than the x86 image?02:11
zcat_sudipta, almost none?02:11
Viking667in your case, if the right monitor's the secondary one, it's xrandr --output secondmonitor --right-of firstmonitor02:11
gtmanfredsudipta: more ram?02:12
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zcat_gtmanfred, ahh.. pae? ;)02:12
Viking667pae differs.02:12
gtmanfredpretty sure you get blocked at 4gb of ram with 32bit os02:12
Viking667Isn't pae more for 32-bit CPUs so they can address more than 3Gb?02:12
bazhangViking667, pretty much02:13
deadmundupset: jupitor is not an overclocking application02:13
Viking667thought so02:13
zcat_yes .. pae lets you address more than 4gb memory in a 32 bit kernel..02:13
sudiptagtmanfred:i have 2 gb of ram.....02:13
Viking667heh. then you don't need pae. And AMD64 may or may not give you an advantage.02:13
Viking667 with that amount of memory, I'd stick to x86 for now.02:13
gtmanfredsudipta: ok, you asked for the advantages? if you don't have more than 4, then w/e02:13
mraxilusgetting closer, now my background appears to be misaligned by 2 inches from the bottom02:14
mraxilusit's just black02:14
zcat_my feeling is there's not really any overall advantage.. except perhaps if you want to run VM's or something02:14
Viking667hmmm. Modeline needs tweaking.02:14
sudiptagtmanfred:my processors is amd athlon 6402:14
mraxilusit's weird though because the top bar is in the right place02:14
gtmanfredthen use 64bit so you can expand02:14
Viking667mraxilus: you've logged out and logged back in?02:14
gtmanfreds/expand/&\ your ram/02:15
zcat_there's not really much reason to avoid 64 bit though.. most of the stuff that used to be a problem with it has been solved for a while now02:15
mraxilus:/ the purpose of this was to be able to do it quickly. Do I really have to log out and log in?02:15
Viking667heh. xcept on my system, there's not much point until I upgrade to a CPU _with_ the VT extensions...02:15
Viking667Mine's just a Pentium Dual Core. Not even a Core/2 Duo.02:16
sudiptagtmanfred:but i heard that there is not enough 64 bit application....is that true?02:16
joeballz2does anyone know of a good guide to troubleshoot ubuntu performance issues?02:16
zcat_so how about my question? Latest tuxmath with network game as seen on debian.. can I find a backport or ppa of this for ubuntu 10.04 ?02:16
gtmanfredi don't use ubuntu, but afaik, you can compile most 32 bit applications and run them on 64 bit machines02:16
bazhangsudipta, no thats not true02:17
bazhangjoeballz2, thats quite vague. clarify02:17
bazhang!manual | joeballz2 start here02:17
ubottujoeballz2 start here: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/02:17
bazhang!rute | joeballz2 and here02:17
ubottujoeballz2 and here: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com02:17
zcat_everything in the repos is compiled for 64 afaik.. and most of the 32bit non-free stuff can be made to run in wrappers or something02:18
zcat_.. which packages typically take careof02:18
joeballz2bazhang, my 11.10 laptop has been running slow..02:18
azhow do i add icons to my desktop02:18
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sudiptabazhang:ok,do I really need to expand my ram....though in my case 2 gb is sufficient,a bit slow though02:18
bazhangjoeballz2, thats not very descriptive. slow in what way. give some very clear examples.02:19
Guest74858dude you medd 4gb to run this well02:19
zcat_For more ram, you can just install a pae kernel ..02:19
bazhangsudipta, your choice02:19
Guest74858i have 3gb and its a bit slow02:19
jc-2sorry, where may i upload a picture?02:19
bazhangGuest74858, thats not true02:19
VermicelliI'm considering putting /boot (along with swap) on a flush-fitting SD card in my netbook (with lubuntu), since the SSD is so slow. What would be a recommended size for a boot partition (or would there be any reason to discourage me from doing this)?02:19
bazhang!paste | jc-202:19
ubottujc-2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:19
zcat_.. I'm not sure if there's any performance advantage in >4gb 64-bit vs >4gb pae02:19
Guest74858how do i install icons to my desktop02:19
bazhangGuest74858, right click drag from menu02:20
Viking667do you have any ON your desktop at the moment?02:20
joeballz2bazhang there's not much on those links related to hunting down resource hogs and finding bottlenecks on your system.02:20
bazhangjoeballz2, open a terminal. top02:20
Viking667but yes, bazhang is correct (or right click on the desktop, click "Create new ....")02:20
Guest74858why is my computer laggy?02:20
jc-2this is my problem02:21
sudiptaGuest74858>extract the theme and put it in ~/.icon02:21
Viking667Guest74858: memory? busy CPU?02:21
Guest74858anyone wants to get my shell terminal through netcat02:21
jc-2how can i figure it out?02:21
Guest74858what theme?02:21
joeballz2bazhang: top is ok.. however there are times my laptop is completely unresponsive when I cant even ctrl +alt f1 to open a terminal02:21
zcat_so many things I have to install just to compile t4k .. I haven't even got to compiling tuxmath yet!!02:22
Viking667joeballz2: wow. That's pretty bad. System load probably spiking up above 10 does that.02:22
Viking667why do yo want to compile tk? there's an ubuntu package for it02:22
Viking667I'm not sure if there's a dependency upon the version, but is tuxmath in the repos?02:23
jc-2i've got the package but i do not how to install them.02:23
zcat_OLD tuxmath is in the repos. I want the network game02:23
Viking667is it a .deb?02:23
Viking667zcat_: ahh, right. So you need the source.02:23
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jc-2it is02:23
zcat_I already tried installing the debian package..02:23
Viking667jc-2: use dpkg02:23
zcat_.. even more dependencies02:23
Viking667zcat_: and found it was the old one. Hm.02:24
jc-2i tried but it makes a mistake02:24
zcat_someone make me a ppa please?!!02:24
jc-2i tried with sudo dpkg -i (package name)02:24
VermicelliWhat's a comfortable but spare size for a /boot partition?02:24
bazhangVermicelli, 500 mb02:25
jc-2<Viking667> i tried with sudo dpkg -i (package name)02:25
joeballz2I just feel like I can run alot more apps in windows 7 than in Oneric02:25
jc-2but i shows a mistake02:25
Viking667Vermicelli: I made mine 200Mb, only have to clean out old versions occasionally.02:25
Viking667jc-2: and what's the mistake it shows?02:25
VermicelliHrm. I'm also being told 100 MB is far too much...02:25
bazhangVermicelli, no thats not enough02:26
Viking667Well, I didn't ask anyone. But I figured that 200Mb would be enough for about four kernel versions.02:26
VermicelliThanks. May have to throw out this idea then.02:26
Viking667For example, on my setup, I have two kernels taking up about 80Mb02:26
Viking667err sorry, three kernels.02:27
gooer1ops hi02:27
TyropeQuick question, how do I extract file.zip to /var/www ? "tar -xzf file.zip /var/www" doesn't work.02:27
joeballz2is it really just 1 week away until Precise Pangolin is available?02:27
VermicelliWondering if it's worth it to put /boot alogn with /swap on an SD in my netbook, since SSD is slow.02:27
VermicelliOnly have a 1GB card however.02:27
bazhang!12.04 | joeballz202:28
ubottujoeballz2: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+102:28
tsimpsonTyrope: tar only works for tar files, use "unzip" for zip files02:28
wyldejoeballz2: yes.02:28
Tyropetsimpson: That's what I thought, thx.02:28
tehoweThere oughter be a script somewhere that checks to see if old kernels are filling up /boot. That wouldn't be that hard via crontab, right?02:29
jc-2<Viking667> look, dpkg: error: unknown option -/02:29
jc-2Type dpkg --help for help about installing and un-installing packages [*];02:29
jc-2Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;02:29
jc-2Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;02:29
jc-2Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;02:29
FloodBot1jc-2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:29
jc-2Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;02:29
zcat_configure: error: libt4k_common is required: git://git.debian.org/tux4kids/t4kcommon.git02:29
zcat_what package resolves this?02:29
wylde!pastebin | jc-202:30
ubottujc-2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:30
bazhangzcat_, are you on debian?02:30
zcat_err no02:30
bazhangzcat_, #debian02:30
zcat_I'm on ubuntu 10.0402:30
jc-2it shows dpkg http://paste.ubuntu.com/937747/02:30
bazhangzcat_, yet you are using debian packages with ubuntu?02:31
zcat_if I was on debian I would have the latest version ov tuxmath that I want from the repos02:31
zcat_but debian doesn't like half the machines here .. goes to seel on idle and won't wake up again02:32
bazhangzcat_, is that a yes?02:32
zcat_otherwise I would have switched them to debian a long time ago02:32
zcat_bazhang, I am trying to compile tuxmath from source02:32
zcat_I already tried to install the debian packages for it.02:32
zcat_.. which dometimes works in ubuntu02:33
wyldezcat_: you can try 'apt-get build-dep <packagename>'02:33
Guest74858Steve where are you02:33
zcat_I don't think the build deps for the older tuxmath are the same, but that might help..02:34
zcat_and there's no t4k at all in ubuntu 10.04 so02:34
wyldezcat_: at the very least it will shorten the list of packages you need to locate and install. :)02:34
Guest74858how do i put icons to my desktop02:34
Guest74858i click and drag02:35
bazhangGuest74858, I just told you02:35
Guest74858and i not move02:35
zcat_next question; will I be able to move this to 9 other computers withput going through the same process on every one?02:35
Guest74858aparently your method is not applicable on my PC02:36
Guest74858 i did exactly what you said02:36
zcat_10 computers set up for teaching .. I want the kids to be able to play a network game of tuxmath02:36
wyldezcat_: check out 'checkinstall'02:36
zcat_ok, finally got t4k to ./configure without problems02:37
wylde!info checkinstall02:37
ubottucheckinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-2 (oneiric), package size 114 kB, installed size 568 kB02:37
zcat_I can get all the packages I installed out of .bash_history anyway and just write a scipt for the other machines02:37
Guest74858right click then drag02:38
cylexWhen are they releasing Ubuntu 12.0402:38
zcat_the last day of the most delayed timezone of april, traditionally..02:39
Guest74858my GUI is slow02:39
Guest74858i don't know how to add icons to my desktop02:40
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maheanuuIaOra, I would like to say thanks for all those who helped me this morning with my hash file corruption problem,  The ISP for French Polynesia admitted to me today that the problem was being caused by them and had been happening for about a month, they claim that it will be repaired tonite..   I had never seen this problem before and as my computer had been down just before this incident started and I reinstalled knowing nothing of the p02:42
maheanuuroblem and Mana did not notify anyone by email02:42
haz3lnutGuest74858: open a folder in Nautilus, find item you want on desktop, hold ctrl-shift and drag drop item to desktop. this will create a link.  If you drag drop without holding a key, you will either move or copy, depending on if the item is on the same filesystem or not.02:43
tbrown2012Installing Microsoft office 2010 on xubuntu02:43
Guest74858what is Nautilus02:44
haz3lnutGuest74858: to explisetly move, hold shift. To explicetly copy, hold ctrl.02:44
haz3lnutGuest74858: your file manager02:44
zcat_yay, looks like it's building finally02:44
haz3lnutGuest74858: it's a little folder looking icon02:44
Guest74858i don't see nautilus02:45
Guest74858i only see dash home02:45
wyldezcat_: checkinstall will build a .deb for you for the other machines. Or like you said you can script it.02:45
haz3lnutGuest74858: you ever use a computer before today?02:45
tbrown2012Does anyone on this channel have office 2010 on there ubuntu02:46
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, can you add icons to your desktop if using 11.10 and unity?02:46
Guest74858where exactly is nautilus02:46
haz3lnutGuest74858: folders, filemanagers?02:46
Guest74858naughty lust02:46
haz3lnutRyoRonin: yes02:46
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, but not without adding additional installs correct02:46
zcat_wylde, hardest part is all the dependencies, which I now have. apt-get install -y *-dev ; tar x ; ./configure ; make ; make install02:47
haz3lnutRyoRonin: why?02:47
wyldezcat_: alrighty.02:47
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, because 11.10 does not have it by default02:47
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, in fact it was taken out with the new shell02:48
haz3lnutRyoRonin: have what? a desktop?  I didn't install anything extra, but I upgraded. not new install.02:48
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, mine was a new install. so for me by default it wasn't available.. but thanks for your info02:49
maheanuuRyo, I think that is the main reason that I stayed back with 10.04.4 LTS There are too many new changes to the new stuff........02:49
haz3lnuty'all are head tripping02:49
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic02:50
RyoRoninmaheanuu, I agree. But new installation for the new goodies.. I have 10.04 running server not workstation02:50
haz3lnutJust drag drop, no need to install anything.  I got pangolin in a vbox, never installed anything new, it's a drag drop icon on desktop.  What "extra" would you install?02:51
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel02:52
sunsonCan someone tell me what is the name of the top-right "power button" menu on the menu bar in ubuntu classic desktop?02:52
haz3lnutRyoRonin: and what will that do for you?02:52
maheanuuRyo, I have been in digital since the 60's and am a ret. navy chief ET and ex Sperry Univac Field Engineer "CETA".   My problem is age and retention is not as good as when I was a couple of decades ago02:52
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, add the ability to do the gnome functions to create the desktop launchers02:53
RyoRoninmaheanuu, so true02:53
maheanuuI just don't play well, anymore, I still work at keepin up and trying to learn, and I switched about a year ago cold turkey from WinBloze02:53
zcat_tuxmath: error while loading shared libraries: libt4k_common.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:54
haz3lnutRyoRonin: I never had to do that.  Icons, links, etc on desktop since day one.02:54
RyoRoninmaheanuu, well I have gone cold turkey, still run win7 for work and msoft applications. but run 2 laptops with Ubuntu 11.10 and 1 laptop with CrunchLinux02:55
Viking667zcat_: did you install the libraries to the correct places in the system?02:55
zcat_make install ought to do that02:55
maheanuuWe had an old saying in the Navy, "Experience Gained is Equal To The Cube of Equipment Destroyed"  I have really found this to be a natural law or sumpin <grin>02:55
steed22which file in /etc/init.d is the one that will get ran at every boot time? i put a bash script in there and cant remember which one it is.02:55
haz3lnutRyoRonin: I run Ubuntu 11.10 at home and at work.  I haven;t seen behavior you are talking about.02:56
maheanuuYou Good!!!  Where are you?02:56
zcat_is there something I run to reindex libraries?02:56
RyoRoninmaheanuu, sorry I meant havent gone cold turkey.02:56
bazhang!ot | maheanuu RyoRonin02:56
ubottumaheanuu RyoRonin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:56
Boohbahmaheanuu: awesome! did you ever cause any nuclear reactor meltdowns?02:56
Boohbahsorry bazhang02:56
bazhanglets get back to Ubuntu support02:56
maheanuulets move this off to Ubuntu off topic....  I truly would like to talk02:57
zcat_ok, they're installed in /usr/local/lib .. should they be somewhere else?02:57
RyoRoninhaz3lnut, yeah I have 2 laptops with 11.10 and Unity as the shell, and they both won't allow me to create the icons, oh well no bigs... thanks again for the info02:57
steed22which file in /etc/init.d is the one that will get ran at every boot time? i put a bash script in there and cant remember which one it is.02:58
gtmanfredJordan_U: hmm, i must be doing something wrong, do i need to do that command from within an ubuntu install?02:59
gtmanfredright now, it is just hanging while loading the core.img02:59
steed22or how to search all the files in a current directory to find a given text, would work too.03:00
zcat_hmm, ok moving them to /usr/lib worked ;)03:00
Viking667zcat_: so could have adding /usr/local/lib to ldd's search path.03:02
Viking667err, not ldd.... whatever the tool is that rebuilds the ld.so cache03:02
zcat_oh .. how do you do that?03:02
zcat_yeah, ok. my way works ;)03:02
Viking667wish I knew. I haven't done it since the early 2k03:02
haz3lnutsteed22: grep -i "some text" /etc/init.d/*03:02
koffelis setting up a dhcp3 server internal network hard03:02
Viking667check ldconfig03:02
Viking667zcat_: that was for you, by the way.03:03
zcat_well, I now have one machine that can play a network game. Which is great progress!03:04
zcat_.. ant totally useless at the same time.. ;)03:04
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wha43v3rHello Ubuntu users! Any one playn' with OpenVAS? Need advice ^^03:04
the_real_crimperi think i botched my raid, i used mdadm to create a mirror, but it seems to fail to mount. is there a way to format it using /dev/md or do i have to rebuild from scratch?03:04
compdocwha43v3r, never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting03:05
wha43v3rIt is vuln scanner) Have problems with installing it03:06
wha43v3rActually I'm arch user :D But ubuntu community was always great, with various useful materials. So I hope here I can find an answer)03:09
wha43v3rSo... Does any1 have troubles with OpenVAS installing? When time comes to add user with administrator rights (according to openvas-check-setup), after I trying add user with ' sudo openvasad -c 'add_user' -n admin -r Admin ' get error ' Failed to create user admin! ' Unfortunately, no other data is provided ((((03:09
shumEnter text here.../msg nickserv shum503:10
compdocwha43v3r, are you trying to create a user named admin?03:10
wha43v3rnot really, I cant cr8 any username03:11
wha43v3rI take 'admin' for example03:12
compdocI think admin is a protected name and cannot be used03:12
_schism_have a question for you smart people.  I have a machine running headless and everytime it has to reboot it gets the enter keyring prompt and I cant vnc into it so I have to go lug out a keyboard and monitor etc.  I have searched google but the only solutions I can seem to find fix the keyring problem but break vnc.  anyone point me ina good direction?03:13
compdocwhat vnc do you use?03:13
_schism_the uilt in desktop sharing thingie03:14
zcat_change login keyring password, for new password just press enter, use unsafe storage03:15
wha43v3rcompdoc: Not really, I was trying any names for this user, nothing was help (Sry for my english, it is not my native lang :)03:15
compdocthat requires someone to be logged into the desktop. not optimal for remote admin03:15
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compdocI think its named vino03:15
compdocyou might look into vnc4server03:16
zcat_anyhow, headless? vnc? should probably run your headless machine with no gui and use ssh03:16
_schism_zcat_, tried that before and it broke something.  compdoc its on an inside network not on the internet so security isnt really that big of a deal03:16
Name141Does the 4670 ATi video card have good support?03:17
zcat_hmm, ok. shouldn't be any diffence between a keyring with a password and one without, other than not being asked for the password03:17
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alexnateraespañol alguien?03:17
_schism_zcat_, I will give it a shot again.  I want to say it only had the vnc password listed but not sure.  looking for a keyboard and mouse now to check it03:18
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:18
compdocI always disable the keyring03:19
zcat_I encrypt the root fs and then run the desktop with auto login, no keyring passwd etc.03:19
_schism_compdoc, umm how?03:20
compdocI dont remember - I jsut googled it up03:20
pikkachuhi, in the session locking screen how do I disable the on-screen keyboard? it appeared somehow and nothing I do make it disappear...03:24
RyoRoninpikkachu,you can try this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/84050/how-do-i-disable-the-on-screen-keyboard-in-the-unlock-screen03:27
pikkachuthanks RyoRonin!03:28
RyoRoninpikkachu, did it work?03:28
steed22how do i do the reverse of this? "rc-update yourscriptname start 2"03:33
steed22want to remove my script03:33
xialalguien on ?03:35
compdocrc-update del script03:36
Guest65389does any one  know how to install mindguard on linux mint03:38
bazhangGuest65389, check mintsupport03:39
bazhang!mintsupport | Guest6538903:39
ubottuGuest65389: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:39
Viking667hola... habla Inglese?03:43
Viking667<<< no habla Espanol o portuges03:43
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:45
cluelesscoderhow would one access irc.spotchat.org?03:46
Viking667 depends partly on the IRC client, I use irssi, so I use /connect irc.spotchat.org03:46
xiali search ani BH ?03:46
gtmanfredcluelesscoder: /connect irc.spotchat.org or however your cliend does it03:46
xialPRIV plz03:46
extraclassicdoes anyone here use fce ultra03:59
bazhangextraclassic, what is that03:59
extraclassicnes emulator04:00
bazhangextraclassic, in the repos?04:00
extraclassicyeah, fceu in the 10.04 repo04:00
bazhangextraclassic, some question about it?04:01
extraclassicto play a game fullscreen you have to enable opengl, but when i do that it's playing the game too fast....disabling it will allow me to play normal speed but it won't go fullscreen that way04:01
bazhangextraclassic, sounds like a bug; consider filing one?04:02
YohanMeisterdoes anyone know a way to install 12.04 without the desktop environment?04:03
extraclassicthey develop fceux now & not fceu04:04
bazhangextraclassic, so have you tried using the maintained fceux?04:05
extraclassicyeah, it gave me even worse problems04:05
FyodorovnaYohanMeister, look at the minimal net download.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:06
bazhangextraclassic, so file a bug? check launchpad for same?04:06
extraclassichaven't found much information about it04:06
extraclassicsaw a cool video where someone was using it fullscreen and it ran smooth though...not sure about what version they used though04:07
uabn93whats the 12.04 release date?04:09
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ubottuuabn93: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+104:10
XiRoNAny ideas guys> http://pastebin.com/hwd49rSE04:10
XiRoNNever seen this before04:11
ejoHi.  I just performed a fresh install of 11.10, and noticed that certain "narrow" fonts which are installed on the system are not showing up in font-chooser dialogs (e.g. in Terminal preferences, or Firefox preferences).  E.g. I can't set Firefox default font to bitstream vera sans narrow because it doesn't show up in the dialog ... despite the fact that it IS installed.04:11
Viking667XiRoN: interesting... I thought I'd seen that before.04:12
ejoI've fixed this before on another system, something involving my font config file was required, but I seem to have lost my old bookmark about it, and have had no luck searching for info on this problem.  It's a known issue but the keywords are just a little too common apparently.04:12
YohanMeisterFyodorovna: It appears they don't have 12.04 available for that. I know it isn't released yet, but it's beta 2 now so should be useable. I found a link for a 12.04 core system but don't see any specific info about whether it's for 64 bit sytems or if it can install to an efi system (an efi installation). Any ideas?04:12
Viking667XiRoN: do you have a devpts in your list of mounts?04:12
XiRoNViking667: I'm new to linux, what does that mean.04:13
YohanMeisterIs there a way to do it from the standard install cd, or I would have to go in an remove the desktop environment after install if I installed that way?04:13
Viking667bring up a Terminal, type "mount" into it.04:13
Viking667 You'll get a list of things, one of which SHOULD say this:04:13
Viking667devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)04:13
FyodorovnaYohanMeister, efi I would not know myself how but I believe if needed can be done.04:14
Viking667Of course, it might not be relevant to your problem, but I suspect it is.04:14
Viking667hm. It's done on automatic on my system, so it never appears in my /etc/fstab04:14
YohanMeisterI see. I wonder what desktop they are using in 12.04 and how much of a challenge it would be to remove it?04:15
YohanMeisterare they even still using x as a backend?04:15
Viking667They'd BETTER be, or my wife's going to be an unhappy puppy.04:15
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peepsaloti saw that tomboy is "no longer supported by canonical" (ie moved into universe), is there any  other app that is preferred over tomboy now?04:19
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Viking667that's that notetaker, isn't it?04:21
paulus68XiRoN: can you try this http://serverfault.com/questions/233962/failing-to-connect-to-server-via-ssh-server-refused-to-allocate-pty04:21
[deXter]Hi all04:22
[deXter]What's the present status of Apple device connectivity in Ubuntu?04:22
ejoNo one's aware of this problem with 'narrow' versions of fonts not appearing in font-chooser dialogs?04:22
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ubottuYohanMeister: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+104:23
YohanMeisteryeah, I know04:26
YohanMeisterthe daily builds are avail but I'm not sure if you can install a minimal system from it04:26
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/04:29
teligard_who has experience with reverse proxies and nginx?04:30
YohanMeisterdoes anyone know if ubuntu core can be installed as an efi system?04:31
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kantlivelonghey all04:35
kantlivelonghow can i suspend+hibernate at the same time?04:35
paulus68YohanMeister: this might be usefull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156604604:37
ThadiusBhello all04:37
wifioregonSo Im getting an error saying upgrade flash player in 11.10..whats the best way to do it? Should I actually follow the adobe instructions?04:37
TuxBlackEdoI was wondering, can I make my vncserver only load 1 gui application (no menu/trash can/etc) how can i do this?04:37
wifioregonor should I just run sudo apt-get upgrade?04:38
__Alex_wifioregon: Yes, they have an APT repository for Ubuntu04:38
roastedAnybody by chance running a Canon 495 all in one? I can't get the scanner working and curious if anybody has it.04:38
ThadiusBI found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???04:38
ejoHelp!  deja vu condensed fonts not available in my applications although I've installed ttf-dejavu on a fresh clean install of ubuntu 11.10!04:38
__Alex_wifioregon: Use the ADOBE instructions04:38
kantlivelongTuxBlackEdo: you could always try X tunneling too04:38
ejo-- and of course I've regenerated my font cache and restarted the apps in question, even rebooted.04:38
TuxBlackEdox tunneling?04:38
YohanMeisterthx paulus6804:38
paulus68YohanMeister: your welcome04:39
kantlivelongTuxBlackEdo: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html04:39
kantlivelongkinda old guide but it works04:39
Guest65389how do you install mindguard on linux04:39
kantlivelonghasnt changed ;)04:40
bazhangGuest65389, ask in mintsupport, as I said04:40
bazhang!mintsupport | Guest6538904:40
ubottuGuest65389: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org04:40
paulus68bazhang: thx04:41
Xtremebazhang: which ubuntu derivatives do we support here? kubuntu, xubuntu etc?04:41
__Alex_wifioregon: np04:41
bazhangXtreme, xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu ubuntu ubuntustudio edubuntu I would guess as well04:42
kantlivelongperhaps im the only person that wants suspend+hibernate :/04:42
TuxBlackEdokantlivelong, can't I just put something into /home/user/.vnc/xstartup ?04:42
Xtremebazhang:  what about backtrack and other OS based on ubuntu? do we support them too?04:42
kantlivelongTuxBlackEdo: prolly.. xtunneling is just nice04:42
kantlivelongthough not over a wan04:43
ThadiusBI found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???04:43
bazhangXtreme, no, they have their own channels, either on freenode, or in the case of mint on irc.spotchat04:43
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Xtremeok, thanks :)04:43
paulus68kantlivelong: perhaps this might be usefull to you http://askubuntu.com/questions/78907/how-can-i-hibernate-suspend-from-the-command-line-and-do-so-at-a-specific-time-a04:43
kantlivelongpaulus68: ah ha `pm-suspend-hybrid`04:44
kantlivelongnow i just gotta fix suspend :/04:45
paulus68kantlivelong: is mentioned just underneeth echo 'pmi action suspend' | at 11pm04:45
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ThadiusBI found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???04:48
kantlivelongpaulus68: yeah i know :/04:50
TuxBlackEdocan i just edit the xstartup file to show a desktop with just the icons on the desktop? no menu/no right click/ etc04:50
ernie_is the Precise Pangolin RC out yet?04:51
twas6263Can anybody help me on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+question/19417904:52
wifioregonokay. SO the instructions to install by flash are ridiculous. Why on earth don't they have an executable install?  Can I just install with apt-get somehow?04:54
bazhang!12.04 | ernie_04:54
ubottuernie_: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+104:54
wifioregonI meant the instructions to install flash by adobe04:54
ernie_how do you "buzz" someone in irc?04:54
ernie_i never use irc (clearly)04:55
ejoHelp! On Ubuntu 11.10, FF's font preference dialogs don't show DejaVu Sans Condensed -- or any other narrow or condensed font -- though they are definitely installed in my system. A web search indicates it's been an unsolved problem for years with all non-GTK apps. I'm merely looking for a manual config edit fix that I could perform, and can't even find info on that.04:55
wifioregonSo there isnt an easy way to upgrade flash??? All my browsers are giving errors..it happened out of nowhere04:55
wifioregonsaying I need to upgrade04:55
wifioregonand the instructions are freaking insane04:55
wifioregonisnt there an alternative flash?04:56
ejohave you tried just updating to latest package information in update manager?04:56
ejoforgive me, I could have assumed that but didn't want to assume.04:56
wifioregonand I tried restarting browser04:56
lotuspsychjewifioregon: i got also troubles with lubuntu and flash recently, crashing04:56
ThadiusBis there an easy way to apply a .patch file w/o compiling??04:57
wyldeThadiusB: nope.04:57
ThadiusBwould ndiswrapper be an alternative, using same drivers but for xp?04:57
wifioregonits just saying I need to upgrade04:57
wyldeThadiusB: I honestly don't know, I've never had to use it.04:58
wifioregonWould upgrading to the Beta release fix this?04:58
ThadiusBthanks wylde, i finally found my drivers for 10.04 but its .patch and i have no idea how to apply that04:58
wyldeThadiusB: you'll nedd the source of the driver and your patch file. Instructions SHOULD be on the site you got the patch from.04:59
ThadiusB@wylde, I dont think they were to concerned with apply the patch, i was lucky i got the .patch at all, its for a pci-e parallel port, not in the highest demand05:00
wyldeThadiusB: what exactly are you wanting to install?05:01
ThadiusBi have a StarTech pci-e parallel card, Oxford chipset, and it lists it, but i'm not getting anything out from it.05:01
wyldeThadiusB: by the sound of the device that may very well be a kernel patch. Lots can go wrong with kernel compiles and it's definately not recommended to do on ubuntu, if I recall correctly.05:01
wyldeThadiusB: hmmm, doesn't sound like a popular piece of equipment, otherwise I suggest looking at compatability with newer ubuntu kernels.05:02
ThadiusBwylde: worst that could happen is i'd have to reinstall aye?05:03
ejoI *desperately* want to use DejaVu Sans Condensed as my default sans font in Firefox, and it refuses to recognize that this font is installed.05:03
ThadiusBits not popular, i need it to connect my computer to my cnc machine05:03
vicky_Hi all. Why libhid package is not available in ubuntu11.10?05:03
ejoIt's pretty much the only comfortably readable font I can find that won't waste so much horizontal space.05:03
wyldeThadiusB: yeah, well at least repair GRUB, it wants to set the newest kernel as default05:03
ThadiusBmy knowledge base of ubuntu is extremely limited05:04
ThadiusBso i have no idea what to do05:04
ShadowFiosi also am in need of help05:04
ThadiusBis there nothing i can do with the .patch file they gave me on their drivers page?05:05
wylde!find mingw3205:05
ubottuFound: gcc-mingw32, mingw32, mingw32-binutils, mingw32-ocaml, mingw32-runtime05:05
ShadowFiosi am downloading the new ubuntu 1105:05
wyldeThadiusB: then I definately would not reccomend you do a custom kernel compile05:05
ThadiusBwylde: nothing else i can do aye?05:06
ShadowFiosand the next step says i have to create a usb drive05:06
wyldeThadiusB: not that I know of, but that's far from definitive. heh. You could keep asking in here, and have you hit up the forums or askubuntu?05:06
ShadowFiosbut i pluggeed in my usb stick and its icon popped up on the desktop05:07
ShadowFiosdo i still need to 'create' a usb drive?05:07
ThadiusBfirst place i thought i'd start wylde, since i'm sitting here looking at 3k worth of equipment and realizing software is holding me up05:07
ThadiusBhavent been to the forums or askubuntu yet05:07
wyldevicky_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/937859/ <--- I believe some of those packages will provide that lib.05:07
twas6263ShadowFios : No u don't need to create another05:08
ShadowFiosthank twas626305:08
wyldeThadiusB: so the company that provides the equipment only provides a patch for their driver?05:09
twas6263ShadowFios : I assume u are installing ubuntu 11.10 via a bootable usb05:09
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ThadiusBwylde, thats all i found in the .zip file05:09
vicky_sorry.I am a gentoo guy.what to do with that text?05:09
wyldeThadiusB: dang :( Maybe search the forums to compile the driver as a module. Best I can think of, we're pushing my knowledge here too. :)05:10
ThadiusBwell i greatly appreciate all you could offer wylde05:11
wyldevicky_: that is a list of packages that supply the libhid.a library you asked about.05:11
ThadiusBgot some friends in our cnc channel looking at it too05:11
vicky_how to install it through apt-get ?05:11
wyldevicky_: yes 'apt-get install whichever-file-suits-your-arch'05:12
wyldevicky_: handy tool for finding libs is apt-file :)05:13
wylde!info apt-file05:13
ubottuapt-file (source: apt-file): search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 24 kB, installed size 188 kB05:13
vicky_but apt-cache search libhid returns nothing even after apt-get update05:13
JFerrellVicky, have you tried running apt-get upgrade   first?05:14
wyldevicky_: yes because it's a library that's part of another package. There is no package that's just libhid05:14
vicky_but it was availabe with 10.0405:15
ThadiusBhey wylde, i think i might have found the problem if you could give me a lil help05:15
wyldeThadiusB: if I can, sure05:16
ThadiusBthe post i read says that the program i want to use with the parallel port needs to unload linux kernal module paraport_pc05:17
TuxBlackEdohow do I make the window smaller in ~/.vnc/xstartup ?05:17
wyldeThadiusB: ahh ok, so you need to u nload that module and blacklist it.05:17
TuxBlackEdochanging "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10" doesnt change anything05:17
ThadiusBwylde: heres the article with exactly what i have going on........ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8829820/finding-memory-address-of-a-parallel-port-on-linux05:18
ThadiusBif you dont mind could you look over it, brb05:18
wyldeThadiusB: sure05:18
ThadiusBty wylde, and back05:19
jjkuis this the ubuntu channel support?05:20
wyldejjku: yep05:21
jjkuit's my first time in irrsi, I hope I typed good05:21
jjkuhow can I start the mous05:21
jjkumouse in console?05:21
jjkuI need to copy a big code from ctrl+F2 in ctrl+F105:22
ThadiusBanything making sense wylde??05:22
onoez_omgis there any "proper" way to get the latest 3.x kernels for natty constantly? i'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/92490505:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924905 in linux (Ubuntu) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.38/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c:1125 intel_disable_pipe+0x1a8/0x1b0 [i915]()" [Undecided,Incomplete]05:22
jjkuand... how can I " man calmav"?05:23
superlinux-hphi. my network wireless card on my laptop times out the connection after a long uptime. if i reboot everything goes back to normal. what should I do in this regard?05:23
wyldeThadiusB: well it does seem to make sense about killing the parport module, but I don't know what module you'll need to load? unless unloading and blacklisting parport, then rebooting did the trick.05:24
onoez_omgsuperlinux-hp, could u please show ur `dmesg` ?05:24
ThadiusBwylde, from what i'm gathering, linuxcnc has it "built in??"05:24
TuxBlackEdohow do i change my window size for my ~/.vnc/xstartup? it's at 1024x768, but when i look in the xstartup file i see "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10"05:25
wyldeThadiusB: I have no idea :/ but if that's the case blacklisting the other module should leave the device free to be detected properly.05:25
wylde!patience | TuxBlackEdo05:26
ubottuTuxBlackEdo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:26
gtmanfredJordan_U: hmm, yeah i tried doing that grub-install, now I am just hanging at kernel /grub/core.img05:26
ThadiusBwylde, could you explain, or link how to blacklist it?05:26
superlinux-hponoez_omg, http://pastebin.com/JidTZpve05:27
onoez_omgThadiusB, /etc/modprobe.d/ there are blacklist* configuration files that contain blacklisted modules05:27
wylde!blacklist | ThadiusB05:27
ubottuThadiusB: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »05:27
jjkuhow can I start a antivirus scan (clam) to /media/WinSys from console?05:27
ThadiusBread something about "rmmod"?? to remove the module?05:29
onoez_omgsuperlinux-hp, please, try to save one after the problem appears, also u could probably try to make `rmmod iwlwifi` and `modprobe iwlwifi` after that, it will make things more clear05:30
ThadiusBactually it says use rmmod to remove all modules connected to paraport_pc05:30
superlinux-hpthis means i have to disconnect05:30
onoez_omgyeah probably05:31
superlinux-hpor let me use my eth0 as another route05:31
superlinux-hpjust a min05:31
onoez_omgi've never touched with intel centino wireless devices before though05:31
hookemNewbie here. Can someone please help me install Ubuntu to hard drive?05:31
ThadiusBif i have 'no write permission" i need to log as root and set it?05:32
wyldeThadiusB: depends, are you updating the blacklist?05:32
onoez_omgThadiusB, if u will blacklist it just as it was suggested, it wont load after reboot, u need root privs in most cases when u touch system configuration05:33
wyldeThadiusB: you can do 'gksu gedit /path/to/file' for root privs.05:33
onoez_omgis there any "proper" way to get the latest 3.x kernels for natty constantly (some ppa or idk lol)? i'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/92490505:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924905 in linux (Ubuntu) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.38/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c:1125 intel_disable_pipe+0x1a8/0x1b0 [i915]()" [Undecided,Incomplete]05:34
wyldeThadiusB: always use gksu or gksudo when starting gui apps with root privs though. Save sudo for command line only applications. :)05:34
ThadiusBok, thanks05:34
ThadiusBwow, talk about feeling like a goober05:36
ThadiusBin my readme file for linuxcnc, it says "remove the # below to prevent linux programs from using the parallel port"05:37
wyldebahahahahaha! >.< hehe05:38
ThadiusBand has "#install parport_pc /bin/true05:38
ThadiusBso once i delete that #, all should be good lol05:38
wyldeThadiusB: that's how they make sure you *cough*RTFM*cough*05:39
milamberhookem: do you have a specific question?05:39
ThadiusBya, indeed05:39
ThadiusBi cant see the forest for all the trees sometimes :)05:39
ThadiusBlemme see if this works05:39
ThadiusBbrb, rebooting05:39
hookemmilamber: I have a 1TB drive. I created a 250GB ext4. Then I clicked on Installer.  It is asking me for a root? thanks05:40
vexaxvhey guys whats up with minecraft bein so slow05:40
vexaxvon openjdk 605:40
milamberhookem: you should be able to look at your partitions and select the ext405:41
hookemmilamber: I selected the ext4 partition, but Error message tells me "no root system is identified. Please correct this from the Partition menu" but I don't know where to find that05:47
wyldeonoez_omg: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11177736 ?05:47
onoez_omgwylde, thx05:48
ThadiusBand still nothing05:48
ThadiusBdammit lol05:48
wyldeThadiusB: boo!05:48
ThadiusBstill havent tried adding paraport_pc to blacklist05:49
onoez_omgwylde, any ideas why there is no newer images after adding and synching with their ppa?05:49
wyldeThadiusB: beyond the blacklist I have no idea :(05:50
ThadiusBwhen i add to blacklist do i need to reboot for it to take affect?05:50
wyldeonoez_omg: ... because there aren't any ... hmm.05:50
Ashtray777I have an ext4 partition that I would like to re-assign as my home directory.  Is this possible to do without re-installing?05:50
hookemhow do I join another channel?05:51
darbeI have upgrade error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/937874/05:51
bmonkjhookem, type /join #channelname05:51
ThadiusB /join #channelname05:51
hookemwhere do I type that? thanks05:51
redact3dhas anyone had a play with up-side-down-ternet on 11.10? i have followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upside-Down-TernetHowTo) but it doesn't work05:51
wyldeAshtray777: yes, rename your current home dir and mount the new partition to /home then copy your old users home to the new home.05:51
ThadiusBrebooting, fingers crossed05:52
Ashtray777oh.  that sounds much easier than i expected.  Thank you again wylde05:53
hookembmonkj: where do I type that? thanks05:53
bmonkjhookem, where you write...05:53
wyldeAshtray777: no problem, don't delete the old home directory until you're sure everything is working right though. Even do a reboot before you delete anything.05:53
Ashtray777wylde, u helped me a few weeks ago as well.  are u a volunteer?05:54
onoez_omgand i have another question, is there fine "gnome classic" fallback in 12.04 without unity side panel and other mess? btw i'm running a laptom with nvidia optimus and it can become a problem i suppose05:54
wyldeAshtray777: yep, I have far too much time on my hands is all :)05:54
bmonkjredact3d, are you sure you redirect your http traffic thru your proxy?05:54
Ashtray777damn.  thank god for that!05:54
hookemthanks. Can anyone tell me why Installer Error message tells me "no root system is identified. Please correct this from the Partition menu" but I don't know where to find that05:55
wyldeonoez_omg: gnome-fallback isn't bad, not quite gnome2 but very similar. There are other options though like xfce4 or lxde05:55
Ashtray777ttyl wylde hard to type on my tablet.  ty again.  peace05:55
redact3dbmonkj, i am testing localling atm i have manually set my browser to use squid and the internet works but for some reason it appears flip.pl is not working05:55
onoez_omgwylde, thanks, i'll give it a try on virtualbox in case05:56
darbeno idea http://paste.ubuntu.com/937874/05:56
wyldeonoez_omg: yeah, with a little work you can make xfce look and feel like gnome2.05:57
bmonkjredact3d, I assume you know for sure perl is installed and working?05:57
redact3dbmonkj, yep05:58
MrBushidodoes anybody know a good book/reference that includes information on writing and using shared libraries? i know little about them other than the concept so a thorough guide with potential pitfalls etc would be great.05:58
wylde!ot | MrBushido05:59
ubottuMrBushido: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:59
wyldeMrBushido: channels like #c++ or others may be more helpful for that.06:00
brienYo. Im not trying to be dick or anything, but Im super new to IRC06:00
MrBushidosadly not, hence my hope that the popularity of this channel might assist me06:00
Num83rGuyWould a bad graphics card cause X to freeze (sometimes taking the kernel with it) ? Just lock up no glitching untill I force a reset.06:00
brienIs this the right place to ask questions?06:00
Num83rGuybrien Yes it is.06:01
lotuspsychjeNum83rGuy: is it on a netbook?06:01
brienThanks Num83rGuy06:01
Num83rGuyNo Desktop lotuspsychje06:01
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redact3dbmonkj, also just tested mogrify and that appears to work fine06:01
ApocGoDbrien, how can we help you?06:01
brienWell Im not exactly new to Linux, but I am new to IRC06:01
lotuspsychjeNum83rGuy: i had similar freeze on a netbook, i had to enable 'network boot' in bios to fix06:02
brienWhat's the purpose of this chatroom?06:02
Num83rGuyIt has done this across two versions 11.10, 12.0406:02
brien(is that what's it's called? chatroom?)06:02
onoez_omgbrien, `/topic`06:03
brienWhat does that mean, onoz_omg?06:03
Num83rGuylotuspsychje: So it might be the ACPI or power management whatever it is.06:03
brienI understand now sorry dude06:03
Num83rGuyI will have to give that another try.06:04
brienSo what do you guys do when the cpu of your laptop doesn't support hardware frequency scaling?06:04
brienBecause I have an Atom 330 and it's a BITCH06:05
wylde!language | brien06:05
ubottubrien: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:05
lotuspsychjeNum83rGuy: whats Os did come default on your desktop?06:05
brienwoah okay06:05
brienI'll keep it PG06:05
wyldebrien: thanks :)06:05
brienSorry man I'm just new with this whole IRC thing06:05
sliktsWTF, why doesn't Alt+F2 work, and why is "show the run command prompt" greyed out in Keyboard settings!06:05
brienI'm a 4chan resident :c06:06
bmonkjredact3d, I can't help you then, I'm sure its working under normal circumstances, I would ask you to try a from a natted computer as the script was intended06:06
Num83rGuylotuspsychje: None :) all home built. Just the way I like it.06:06
wyldeall good, keep in mind this is the support channel, general chat is over in #ubuntu-offtopic :)06:06
brienbut really, language aside, does anyone have a solution to the lack of hardware scaling in Intel Atom 330 cpus?06:06
lotuspsychjeNum83rGuy: would be interesting to mess with BIOS a bit, maybe u can solve06:06
lotuspsychjeor looking at logs06:07
redact3dbmonkj, just setting up an lts vm to go from fresh in case my existing apache conf is breaking it.. cheers for you help!06:07
bmonkjredact3d, one more thing, do you have localhost in your /etc/squid/squid.conf?06:08
brienNo tips? I'm using an Asus 1201n eeePC06:08
Num83rGuylotuspsychje: As much as I hate it you are probably right. Might as well turn off everything non-essential when my new graphics card comes in Tuesday.06:08
brienit's a huge pain that it wont scale the cpu freqs06:08
onoez_omgbrien, i suspect there is none06:08
brienget super hot06:08
brienthanks for the input onoez06:08
onoez_omgnp =)06:09
redact3dbmonkj, yeah and localnet. as i said i can get out through the proxy it just doesn't store images for some reason06:09
Num83rGuylotuspsychje: Thanks. Some times bouncing ideas helps me think things out.06:09
brienHow should I proceed? Windows isn't an option06:09
sliktsbrien: tits or gtfo06:10
brienWhy do you think I have tits :c?06:10
onoez_omgbrien, imho choosing atom is a bad idea in almost all cases, there were times when ppl were looking carefully at hardware specs looking for future linux instance running on it06:10
brienYeah I think you're right, onoez06:10
brienIt's a shame. I have this hardware regardless of choice06:11
brienIt would be nice to find a distro that could make decent use of it06:11
onoez_omgthere is always a choice06:11
brienYeah there's a choice.06:11
brienI could make this viable machine into landfill fodder06:12
brienor I could find some sort of solution to this dumb problem.06:12
brienSee what I'm saying?06:12
onoez_omgi know a guy whos using eee 900 as a router with 1+ year uptime06:12
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brienalright, router is an option06:13
brienAnything really is a option06:13
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brienexecpt trash or windows06:13
brienwhy did asus make these terrible eeepc machines?06:13
onoez_omgas for me, there were two nice machines 900 and 90106:14
brienI haven't had the pleasure of using those two, onoez06:15
brienAlright, Quick question; why are some names in different colors?06:15
brienI noticed it already with slikts and onez_omg, but only sometimes06:15
brienIs it a personal message? meant only for me and invisible to others?06:16
brienCome on you guys06:17
briensimple question06:17
Jaye_FalconI don't understand this xchat...06:17
sliktsbrien: gb2/4chan06:17
brienI'm using irssi, and sometimes your names are yllow instead of white06:17
sliktsbecause we mention your handle, fool06:17
brienAlright mang. Thanks for the awesome community and outstreched welcoming arms06:18
brienI love linux06:18
brienBut really. Thanks for answering my question.06:18
jesfre@Jaye_Falcon, what do you mean? What are you unsure of?06:19
sliktsbrien: no welcome06:19
brienWhat are you doing here slikts?06:19
brienI'm real curious06:19
sliktsI'm the head of HR06:20
brienIf you want to be a pointless pendant why aren't you trolling the arch forums?06:20
sliktsnoobs need to be combated everywhere06:20
Jaye_FalconHow to join the Actually server I want to06:20
brienYou tell me to gb24chan but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about06:20
sliktsyes, I have no idea what you're talking about06:21
brienYeah I'm an irc noob but I know better to act big on a mother crunching ubuntu forum06:21
jesfre@Jaye_Falcon, type either "/j [#channel]" or "/join [#channel]" without the brackets.06:22
sliktsbrien: I thought people from 4chan knew trolling06:22
onoez_omgu can try to tell the same cool story at #slackware for example, just an option for ur personal etertaining06:22
Jaye_FalconNo, I need to get to coldfront.06:22
Jaye_FalconIt's irc.coldfront.net06:22
brienYou were decent enough to answer my question before. Maybe, slikts, you can tell me how to block you on irc?06:23
jesfreI see. go to xchat at the top and choose network list.06:23
sliktsbrien: /ignore slikts06:23
brienyo thanks06:23
sliktsno welcome06:23
brienI wont actually ignore you, but when real jerks appear I know how.06:23
brien"no thanks"06:23
Jaye_FalconI type in irc.coldfront.net but and click connect, but it isn't going through...06:24
jesfrebe sure to hit enter. That first screen you get is the name of the network, you'll want to click edit to put the address in.06:25
blackr00tsyscan i ask something sir06:26
brienGo ahead06:26
brienIts better than waiting in silence to recieve an answer for no reason06:26
Jaye_FalconIt works!06:27
brienIt does06:27
brienWhat is everyone's favorite food?06:27
Jaye_FalconThank you, very much.06:27
jesfreawesome, I'm glad. :)06:27
ZengerHi guys, accidentally did sudo chmod 777 /06:27
jesfreHave fun!06:27
Zengerit yelled privs open and so one06:27
Zengertried to do chmod 75506:27
the_legendi like risotto!!!!06:27
Zengerlocked the whole pc down :D06:27
ThadiusB<--- utterly defeated lol06:28
brienis good06:28
Paul_SuHi all06:28
ZengerWhat would be the correct chmod to the whole system folder ?06:28
brienBest food: white anchovies06:28
briencorrect chmod +anchovies06:28
the_legendnever had them??06:28
jesfre@Zenger, have you tried Googling the fix?06:28
Zengerjesfre: now I'm a moron.06:28
Zengerjesfre: I'm in a search just now , but tried to ask you guys too06:29
leo_how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.0406:29
jesfre@zenger, it's all good. we all make mistakes at times. For me, it was thinking VMing Ubuntu on a 7 year old Max was a great idea.06:30
blackr00tsyssir i want to asking about how upgrade os from 11.10 to 12.0406:30
brienWho are the admins of this ircthing?06:30
leo_how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.0406:30
brienbalckr00tsys, has the upgrade too not work for you?06:30
the_legendlol i am not sure but i know if your being an idiot you will get kicked06:30
jesfre@Brien, no idea.06:31
Zengerjesfre: Still , google doesn't seem to help me a lot , in fact besides "chomd 777 chmod" I have no ideea what to search for  :D06:31
milamberhookem: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome06:31
brienblackroot, tell me, what have you tried?06:31
jesfre@blackr00tsys, give me a moment, let me try and find an answer.06:31
blackr00tsysok @jesfre06:32
brienI have had no problems with the update-manager to upgrade ubuntu versions06:32
brienmaybe I'm just lucky06:32
leo_how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.0406:32
jesfre@zenger, I've got no idea, either. :( I'll try and help, though.06:32
jesfre@blackr00tsys, try this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta206:33
brienleo_: not trying to be a jerk, but have you tried gVim instead?06:33
jesfreThe first paragraph should point you in the right direction.06:33
briengedit is pretty bad06:33
leo_No, i'll try it,thanks06:33
brienIt's a totally different editor06:34
brienbut it's really nice once you get used to it06:34
brienplus, it's available in console form everywhere, called "vim"06:34
brienssh into some random linux server, vim will be available06:35
brienif you are used to it, you will ve right at home06:35
blackr00tsysmr admin i will ask about my playonlinux06:35
brienIm not an admin06:35
brienwho are you talking to?06:35
coder2Hello. Please help me with resolv.conf - it becomes empty after boot. I've specified dns-nameservers in the /etc/network/interfaces. After ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 resolv.conf become normal, but why it is empty right after boot? My ubuntu bersion is 11.10. Network manager is not installed.06:35
Zengerbtw as I'm here, suggest me a good text-editor with small IDE capabilities, mainly for PHP, js , css and sometimes C++ (i'm ok compiling by console , i'm look just syntax and tips) . I want to stay out of VIM, EMACS, Eclipse (or any other heavy IDE (I USE already phpStorm)) .What are the options (besides KOMODO/Geany/Kate/Gedit/jEdit/Bluefish)06:35
brienBesides what you listed, Zenger?06:36
blackr00tsys@brien my play on linux its not working correctly...how to fix it ?06:36
jesfre@zenger,  are you able to get into your files, but they have full permissions?06:36
brienis there anything really left. Geany is the best option, but you ruled it out06:36
brien@black. Sorry dude I dont use playonlinux06:37
brienthat's a wine layer, right?06:37
brienI know a little about it06:37
brienJust let us know what's wrong06:37
Zengerbrien: yep06:37
blackr00tsysfor game only i want try game counter strikes like on win****06:37
rogstZenger: Codelite06:38
Zengerjesfre: I'm not sure06:38
Zengerjesfre: I gave 777 to whole /06:38
brienZenger: sorry my friend but you ruled out some of the best editors.06:38
Zengerjesfre: the I gave it 755 /06:38
Zengerbrien: I adore geany, but it doesn't have a tag matching system06:38
ShadowFiosi am trying to update an acient ubuntu 806:38
jesfre@Zenger, uhhh.... I have no idea. :x06:39
RudZenger: kdevelop das php and c++ pretty well.06:39
ShadowFiosto ubuntu 11 on a flah drive06:39
ZengerRud: Ubuntu (XFCE) , will it blend ?06:39
brienZenger: I'm not a super experienced geany user, but are you sure there's no extension or something for it? if not, have you looked into vim again?06:39
RudZenger: "blend"?06:39
jesfre@zenger, I know 777 changes the permissions of the file file to read, write, and execute for all.06:40
ShadowFiosi have rebooted multiple times but the prompt ubuntu describes dosent appear06:40
ShadowFiosi have even done the f12 boot option set to usb06:40
ZengerRud: I mean will it work on XFCE ? It will pull the whole KDE stuff by itself? because I assume K stands for KDE06:40
ShadowFiosstill runs ubuntu 806:40
CamChi, I asked this a while ago but had to leave before I could understand the answer... how can I upgrade mono from 2.4.4 to 2.10 on ubuntu 10.4 please??06:40
RudZenger: yes, it uses "kde stuff"06:40
brienZenger: not to pry, but dude, really? Why shy away from vim/emacs?06:40
Zengerbrien: I'm not into vim, I can't force myself learn the whole binds and it drives me crazy.06:41
lotuspsychjeare there known issues on lubuntu crashing adobe flash recently?06:41
ZengerRud: Gonna check it out.06:41
ShadowFioswhat can i do to update06:41
Zengerjesfre: yes, but then the pc yells at me , because I have writing privs. It drives me nuts06:41
Zengerrogst: Codelite doesn't seem to have a PHP syntax support.06:42
RudZenger: more lightweight, but only covering your C++ needs would be qt creator. that does not depend on "kde stuff"06:42
jesfre@zenger: Oh man, that stinks. Sorry, man I don't know permissions that well. Yet.06:42
brien:Zengrer fair enough. You're gonna hear this more than once, and you probably heard it enough already... However: If you spend a lot of time crankin code into the ol lighnin box, ya should learn a proper way of doin it.06:42
brienZenger: Seriously. A few hours of learnin will save ya years of headaches06:43
ShadowFioshas anyone had experience updating ubuntu 8 to 1106:43
Zengerjesfre: I assume I'd have to bash to 777 and then just use the default user as root. I don't want to install because I have some data that is located on the same drive as ubuntu and on formating I would loose everything (06:43
ulziibuyananyone knows how can i output csv in utf-8 encoding with `soffice --convert-to` command?06:43
jesfre@zenger: sad day06:43
Rudbrien: handling large c++ project, perhaps  without fully knowing the code base, is a pain without a proper code model in the back06:44
Zengerbrien: Show me the best tutorial you can give me. That will save my ass when working with vim. I've tried vim not 1, not 2 , but hell of a lot times. And it never helped.06:44
ZengerRud: I would use QT only when I need the qt library, unfortunately QT doesn't have nor color themes nor php support (from which my job depends) :D06:45
ulziibuyanthe problem is `soffice --convert-to csv` loses all international characters.06:45
brien:Rud that can be accomplished without ecplipse or codeblocks or whatever06:45
Rudbrien: vim + clang for code completion is not bad for editing, but not exactly for "project" handling06:45
Rudbrien: "real" code models06:46
ZengerRud: That's the whole point, I don't quite seek for a project oriented IDE06:46
brienRud: Not trying to step on any toes here, but I have worked in "real" project before.06:46
ZengerRud: for that I use phpStorm and CDT for C++06:46
RudZenger: if you want to edit text files, vim and emacs is fine06:46
brienRud: Zenger: that's exactly what he wants to do06:47
brienWhat do you think coding is?06:47
ShadowFioswhere one go to get help on updating os version06:47
ZengerRud: no they are not, I'm used with gui tools and I'm not comfortable with them. I'm trying to learn them , but nobody seems to have a clue where to start properly except the readme of vim :D06:47
Rudbrien: it's not just typing code, it's also understanding the code, getting the context, debugging, deploying06:47
ZengerRud: I got to mention thou, Kdevelop seems preatty neat.06:47
brienZenger: Sorry for not having a proper answer for you. A lot of learning a text editor like vim or emacs takes experiences06:48
Zengerbrien: besides , does vim has support for xdebug (for php) ?06:48
Zengerbrien: now you understand why there are so many people who can't learn vim06:48
brienZenger: however, as one who has had experience with both, I don't really reccommend emacs. Vim may have a learning curve, but it easy.06:49
Zengerbrien: I would be delighted to learn vim and use it the way you describe it to be. But the plain readme and some stupid youtube videos won't help me.06:49
ApocGoDAnyone know where I could go for some information on PHP?06:49
fidelApocGoD: maybe #php?06:49
moonmanzenger you can use "e" text editor but you should compile it06:49
brienZenger: Sorry I've never had to code php professionally06:49
MechanisMhello guys!. who eats more resources unity or unity 2d?06:50
ulziibuyanApocGod: php.net06:50
Zengerbrien: what for do you use vim then ?06:50
erkonWhen ever I boot with usb mouse pluged in it takes like a 3 min ubuntu to load.If I boot with no usb plugged in then the boot time is fast.Why this is happening?06:50
brienZenger: I work for garmin, intl. the department I work for uses git and C++06:51
Zengermoonman: hm , good ideea, I could try that . thank you06:51
brienvim is quite nice for tiat06:51
sliktsvim is for gits06:51
sliktsjust kidding, I use it06:51
brienyay slikts is back06:51
sliktstherefore it can't be for gits06:51
Rudbrien: eclipse is java at heart. it's super slow for c++, and the code model takes ages to build and is not kept up-to-date as-you-type. it "works", but...06:51
fidelerkon: it might help so reconfigure your boot process - i assume it currently does not show details but just the ubuntu logo right?06:51
brienRud: eclipse is used a lot at my work, too. Even for purely C projects.06:52
ZengerRud: I don't do heavy C++ projects, I'm on a simple learing curve, I don't do makefiles or heavy project handling06:52
brienRud: I dont know why, but there it is.06:52
ZengerRud: I just need code completion a simple project managament, and the compiling I do by console.06:52
erkonno I see black screen with a cursor in the left top until the logo screen comes up06:52
brienZenger: I dont know about php, but for sure vim has C++ code completion06:53
erkonThe same is happening with other linux os for example.with slitaz I can see what is loading and the boot stops and hangs for a long time when it loads usb ohci driver06:53
Zengerbrien: it has for PHP I told you I tried to learn it06:53
brienZenger: sorry I wasnt being attentive eough06:54
brienZenger: what was the main problem with learning it?06:54
Zengerjesfre: I'm in a lot of pain now :( , now somehow I've managed to do 766 to the chmod binary , now it won't change the priveleges at all :( I'm screwed :D06:54
Zengerbrien: Were can I start properly learning vim.06:54
brienZenger: Even if your answer doesnt help you, it can help point out problems others are having06:54
brienZenger: Dude! What are you trying to do? What did you hyst tell jesfre?06:55
sliktsnetbeans is nicer than eclipse06:55
Zengermoonman: but doesn't E cost 50 bucks ? :D06:56
Zengerslikts: I hate both of them :D06:56
sliktsZenger: what do you like then?06:56
Zengerslikts: phpStorm06:56
brienZenger: Not trying to be a dick, but really, what is hard about vim? Just take a couple hours and learn the keybindings06:56
brienThe learning curve is a square wave06:57
Zengerbrien: okay, is there any helpful tutorial you would suggest besides readme.txt ?06:57
jesfre@zenger: That's no good.06:57
jesfre@zenger: Can you change permissions on individual files?06:58
brienZenger: alright, ya got me, been trying to find a decent intro to vim, can't do it06:58
Zengerjesfre: 1 moment gonna check that.06:58
brienZenger: im assuming complete incompetence06:58
brienZenger: again, not tryint to be a dick06:59
CamCsooo anybody on that can give a little advice about updating mono??06:59
jesfre@zenger: If you can, you can get your files to a different box or file system, and reset everything.06:59
brienZenger: Have you ever heard of Vimperator? Its a firefox extension06:59
jesfre@Camc: I have no experience in mono, sorry. :(06:59
Zengerbrien: yep, thats what I thought. same here, for many years I'm hearing you guys telling me : "Vim is great, epic , try it" but when I open it  , i'm messed up in visual and normal and "j" "h" "k" keybinds and so on. Tried doing readme. Forogot everything in a few days. :)06:59
CamCthanks anyway jesfre anybody else??07:00
Zengerbrien: no, and looking by the screenshots I don't think I want it :D07:01
CamCso far I have found Badgerports, and need to know how to add it as a repository07:01
CamCvia putty shell07:02
Zengerjesfre: god I hate doing reinstall :( , but I'm gonna have to do it :(07:02
EvilResistanceCamC: PuTTY "shell" is no different from a standard SSH session, last I checked.  What's Badgerports, some other repository you're trying to add to your system?07:02
CamCyes it is the repository that holds the version that I need, and the directions there only explain from graphic user point07:03
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CamCI have found the sources folder /etc/apt/sources.list07:05
CamCcant find the exact command to add the source07:05
brienlost connex07:06
Zengerbesides I'm still stuck to the same no Idea what text-editor to try :D (besides learning vim) :D07:06
Blue11installed new thunderbird from mozilla site, but can't seem to get it to use the default browser.  what gives?  tried the network.handler thing (doesn't exist)07:06
brienZenger: sorry for being such a zealot07:07
Blue11Zenger: gedit or nano07:07
tshelton1232ok can anyone help me install minecraft on ubuntu 12.0407:07
brienzenger: the truth of the matter is that altough there might not be any super easy way to get nice an cozy with vim, it really does pay off,07:08
lotuspsychjenano looks good07:08
tshelton1232ok can anyone help me install minecraft on ubuntu 12.04?07:08
fideltshelton1232: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 things - while i have no idea about minecraft itself & the install instructions07:08
brienzenger: if you have no long-term relationship with coding in linux, then forget about vim or emacs, and yeah, gedit is good enough.07:08
ojiihow can I connect to a Mac VNC server? all the clients I found in the repositories fail...07:08
Blue11lotuspsychje: it's very simple to learn -- never could master vi or vim -- I am a weakling I guess07:08
fidelojii: sure you enabled vnc support inside the remote-desktop settings of your osx host?07:09
Zengerbrien: I got that, the problem is how to get there. Besides , if moving to a windows machine, gVim won't do the job ?07:09
fidelotherwise it will fail for sure - always ;)07:09
lotuspsychjeBlue11: not all ubuntu users are hardonn cli07:09
ojiifidel, yes, other mac users can connect07:09
briengVim is good07:09
ojiifidel, from ubuntu: no luck07:09
fidelojii: macs dont use vnc itself07:09
ojiifidel, o.O?07:09
Blue11lotuspsychje: huh?07:09
briengVim is available as a standolone exe install in windows, I believe.07:09
fidelthere is a special option for vnc support inside the remote desktop settings07:09
lotuspsychjeBlue11: im more an ubuntu candy user07:09
Blue11lotuspsychje: ahh07:10
ZengerBlue11: gedit would be nice if it would have code completion and CTRL + Y working (it won't do forward) :D07:10
lotuspsychjeBlue11: many swear by the command line (the hard way)07:10
brienWhat is C+Y?07:10
Blue11lotuspsychje: oh no I use nano regularly -- you mean x forwarding?07:10
ojiifidel, most clients say they fail because of authentication method not being supported07:10
lotuspsychjeBlue11: i mean not all users work with only commandline, i prefer handy tools07:11
fidelojii: have you checkeD: VNC viewer may control screen with password ?07:11
fidelotherwise it will not work07:11
fidelthats a setting on your mac07:11
Blue11lotuspsychje: ahh I use mostly commandline07:11
fideli stop repeating myself now ;)07:11
ojiifidel, okay07:11
Blue11anyone have any idea on what I can try to get thunderbird to use the default browser?07:12
lotuspsychjeBlue11: but also u like gui stuff?07:12
Zengersometimes I just want to kill everything and put windows, just like that :D It wasn't the best but it did the job :D07:12
brienZenger: I'll try to answer your main question: No it is not possible to read one tutorial and be completely proficent with Vim. Maybe the learning curve is a bit more gradual than I first said07:12
Blue11lotuspsychje: priv. message ok?07:12
brienZenger: However, if you can learn the basics (and anyone can) then they gradually lead to more advanced use07:12
fidelojii: sys-prefs - sharing -remote management - computer settings07:12
Zengerbrien: maybe maybe.07:13
ojiifidel, a mac user claims it's enabled07:13
brienZenger: because they are all based on the same basic ideas of use07:13
ZengerThe problem is at the moment I can't give some of my time to learn vim , I just can't, maybe in a few days I will07:13
brienZenger: maybe it's not worth your while. I dont know. but my time with vim has made editting with it second nature. I use a firefox extension to make mybrowsing more like vim07:14
Zengerbrien: I would like to have that same knowledge of vim so it would make my editing seconds.07:15
brienZenger: and I'm not alone. It's hard to describe how nice it feels to never move your fingers from the keyboard, and rarely away from homerow. But it's worth it.07:15
ojiifidel, ah, gtkvncviewer actually can connect!07:15
Zengerbrien: you are not the first one to mention vim, and not the first one to mention vim and php, those who know vim always cheer it07:15
ojiifidel, but it only shows part of the screen. the mac has 4 displays attached, i can only see one07:15
Zengerbrien: I hope I will make some good use from vim07:16
brienZenger: Im sorry I couldnt find a better resource for you to learn it. It may just take some time.07:16
Zengerbrien: ye.. one more question, but why did you throw emacs so fast?07:17
Zengerpeople seem to like it and besides if far mor older than vim07:17
Zengerit's* far more*07:17
brienZenger: it's personal opinion.07:18
Zengerbrien: oh, okay07:18
RudZenger: nobody who likes vim touches emacs, and vice versa....07:18
brienZenger: emacs is fine, I've tried it, but really, it gets harder the more you learn it07:18
RudZenger: that rule must have been there before computers had been invented07:19
ZengerRud: I kind of suspected this trend :D07:19
brienZenger: vim is more universial, and frankly, easier, while still being quite powerful.07:19
blendedbychrisanyone ever encounter this when generating a csr07:20
gvandeweyerCan I list somehow the current kernel configuration on a default ubuntu-server install ?07:20
gvandeweyerI need to see if some options are enabled07:20
brienRud, Zenger: I know it's a holy war or whatever, but in complete honesty, unless you are super hardcore and want to write a bunch of Lisp, Vim > Emacs07:20
jhattaracan i extract a tar without destroying the original and extracting the files into the current folder ?07:20
RudZenger: both vim's direct predecessor (vi) and emacs are from 1976 or so. vi followed ed which is even older07:21
jesfreguys, there's going to be pros and cons about each editor, and there isn't a perfect one for everyone, because we are all different. :)07:21
brienNo! jesfre! NOOOO!07:21
Rudbrien: I am on the vi(m) side, no worries ;-}07:22
brienI will make the emacs users pay for what they've done!07:22
DarkSectorHow do I route my aptitude/ping traffic through http port07:22
cyborg_hey i can't  create a  wireless adhoc in my ubuntu 10.0407:22
EvilResistance!offtopic | brien, i think you're straying a tiny bit into there07:22
ubottubrien, i think you're straying a tiny bit into there: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:22
brienYo no problem ubottu07:23
DarkSectorAlso, what is the default apt-get port?07:23
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  why do you need to route your traffic via port 80?07:23
DarkSectorEvilResistance: all other ports are blocked on my college net :|07:23
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  last i checked, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade both downloaded via HTTP07:24
cyborg_i am using driver=brcmsmac07:24
EvilResistance(and if your college net is restricting your traffic in this manner, god help you)07:24
brienSorry Rud, let's focus on helping these folks07:24
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  what makes you think the apt-get is being blocked?07:24
ZengerI have never experienced neither Emacs nor vim more than five minutes07:24
DarkSectorEvilResistance: well I can't ping or update, it can't connect to the repository urls07:24
Rudbrien: help emacs folks? never!  ;-)  [sorry, could not resist]07:25
EvilResistancecan you access the internet normally?07:25
brienFun fueding though07:25
EvilResistance(i.e. firefox or something)07:25
yohannim having some trouble with grub loader my setup is windows + ubuntu but now i put mac on also on a 25gig hfs+ partition07:25
Zengerbut I will mention vim is way easier to use and understand. That said that is puerly my opinion using both of them just a few moments07:25
DarkSectorEvilResistance: Yeah I am on IRC on firefox07:25
DarkSectorEvilResistance: the thing is, I can connect to the gpg urls on firefox07:25
cyborg_wireless problem save me my lords07:26
DarkSectorEvilResistance: not through the terminal07:26
cyborg_save me07:26
jesfre@darksector: I'm using apt-get to get some packages, and it is going through http... I don't know if that helps.07:26
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  apt-get uses HTTP or FTP, depending on what's in /etc/apt/sources.list, which by default is HTTP07:26
EvilResistanceDarkSector: ignoring "ping", can you do apt-get update without problems?07:26
DarkSectorEvilResistance: No, I can't do anything at all, no communication via the terminal07:26
DarkSectorEvilResistance: even after enabling a system wide proxy, this doesn't seem to work07:27
squibbyhi guys; what is the current recommended way to disable avahi-daemon and its minions? it sucks k thx07:27
DarkSectorEvilResistance: can you predict any reasons for this?07:27
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  i *think* you're SOL then, the network firewalls might be screening your client/downloader/etc. headers, and saying that if its not a web browser, to reject it, i think you'll have to talk to the help desk at your university or something07:28
DarkSectoroh god07:28
* EvilResistance had this issue at Penn State, but it was a minor issue that was rectified because they screwed up their firewalls07:28
brienThis has been a great first IRC experience07:29
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  don't quote me on that "You're SOL" thing though, i'm only speculating (it *is* 3:30 AM here, so... :P)07:29
brienBeen using Linux since 2002. The community has clearly evolved quite a bit.07:29
DarkSectorEvilResistance: That's fine, atleast I have something to work with07:29
DarkSectorEvilResistance: also, anyway to figure out what ports might or might not be blocked on the network? Should I be using a tool like nmap or something?07:31
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  that won't detect outgoing port blocks07:31
EvilResistanceDarkSector:  nothing you can do from behind the netowrk, and nothing I'd explain how to do here (because of the ITSec implications)07:32
DarkSectoroh okay07:32
DarkSectorThanks for your time07:32
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HyperbyteI have ran into this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/416190  That bug talks about the problem existing in Karmic and Lucid, I'm experiencing it on Natty.  Other than updating the bug, is there anything else I could possibly do to help get this issue resolved without needing programming skills?07:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 416190 in linux (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio produces overdriven audio on Plantronics DA40 adapter" [Low,Confirmed]07:38
osirisx111hi, anyone know how i can correct a corrupt mjpg mkv video?07:39
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vadi2Is it possible to make the system monitor display more than 60s of history?07:43
sinanis there a way to get a better-looking application switcher (and workspace switcher) in unity2d?07:44
monotuxok, what's the easiest way of installing ubuntu on a netbook, withouth the default gnome shell? I'd love to use ubuntu again (currently using debian squeeze which is kinda dated) but the default shell is too slow :/07:44
monotuxis lubuntu the way to go? or ubuntu server?07:44
monotuxi'm using awesome wm normally07:45
EvilResistancemonotux:  xubuntu, lubuntu, either could work, but unity is netbook-inspired, so...07:45
EvilResistancemonotux:  if you want old-style gnome like stuff, from pre-Unity defaults...07:46
zamabemonotux, dated? lol. debian is a rolling distro. Just update.07:46
EvilResistance!not-unity | monotux07:46
EvilResistance!notunity | monotux07:46
ubottumonotux: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic07:46
monotuxzamabe: squeeze is the stable distro, which means it gets some updates every 3 rd month or so07:46
monotuxbut I need python 2.7 and such07:46
monotuxand installing 2.7 breaks a lot of the system07:46
zamabe.... what is this i don't even07:47
monotuxEvilResistance: I've used the netbook editing and the new unity thingy, it wastes screenestate and is kinda slow on a low-end netbook07:47
monotuxI use X11 to run chrome/firefox and for getting antialiasing in my emacs07:47
EvilResistanceah, then try xubuntu or lubuntu.  note othough that ubuntu-server is CLI only, so...07:47
EvilResistanceyou shouldn't use ubuntu-server unless you want command-line only07:48
EvilResistance(probably not what you want ;P)07:48
monotuxwell I guess I can install X11 in ubuntu server as well?07:48
monotuxthat used to be only a meta-package07:48
monotuxback in the day when ubuntu was brand new ;)07:48
monotuxwell I'll probably go for lubuntu 12.0407:49
monotuxi wonder if i can bootstrap a installation from my swap-drive...07:50
ramsramboI need help installing Ubuntu 12 Beta 2 with WUBI installer.07:50
newbie_hi anybody uses quanta?07:50
ramsramboAfter Installing it is  boots up with ubuntu but says unable to locate root files system07:51
yoooI was wondering if someone knows why the mysql-client default behaviour is to connect trough socket instead trough localhost tcp connection ?08:03
yoooI've an Maverick08:03
yoooIs it hard coded when canonical compiled the sources ?08:03
EvilResistanceyooo:  its likely that's how the mysql people have the code.08:04
EvilResistanceyooo:  you should also be aware that Maverick is EOL, so you will probably need to upgrade soon.08:04
yoooEvilResistance: actually, I installed the server from the website (mysql.com). I installed the complete bundle (server and client). Then, I wanted to use innotop, and I installed mysql-client-5.1 from offical repo, and the default behaviour of the client changed08:06
EvilResistanceyooo:  don't mix-and-match server/client versions08:06
yoooI couldn't find any settings justifying this new behaviour in any config files :/08:06
EvilResistanceit'll break things08:06
yoooEvilResistance: yeah, I know, but i'm using ghosted computers, I can't do anything ^08:06
EvilResistanceyooo:  don't mix-and-match, either use the packages in the repos or use the bundle from the SQL site, not both :P08:07
EvilResistancebreakage occurs08:07
naftilos76what will it take to install latest evolution 3.4 to ubuntu 10.10?08:07
yoooEvilResistance: I know that is not very 'clean' way to do, but that is not the point, I'm in MySQL training (the language, not in admin sys)08:07
yoooI just wanna know where the mysql-client-5.1 default behaviour is set (not in /etc/my.cnf not ~/.my.cnf)08:08
EvilResistanceyooo:  i dont think that's defined anywhere, what's the connection string you're using?08:08
EvilResistanceyooo:  should be something like mysql -u user -h [hostnameOrIP] -p08:09
EvilResistanceor something08:09
fsgxdroidhow to downgrade openssl in ubuntu?08:09
EvilResistanceyooo:  unless you're using a GUI08:09
EvilResistancefsgxdroid:  first question: why do you need to downgrade?08:09
yoooWhen the bundle was installed, I used to execute 'mysql'. Since I installed client from repo, I do need to do 'mysql -h'08:09
fsgxdroidbecause new version won't cooperate with my case08:09
yoooOr maybe, the hard coded default behaviour changed from 5.1 to 5.5 ?08:10
EvilResistanceyooo:  not sure, but by default MySQL server listens on
EvilResistancesockets or no sockets, i think08:10
* EvilResistance isnt certain about that thoguh08:11
EvilResistance!privmsg | fsgxdroid08:11
ubottufsgxdroid: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.08:11
EvilResistance!privmsg | fsgxdroid, read this message, or you might get ignored by the person you're privmsging08:12
ubottufsgxdroid, read this message, or you might get ignored by the person you're privmsging: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.08:12
* EvilResistance doesnt necessarily like random privmsgs :P08:12
yoooEvilResistance: so that what I though, that a ubuntu package default behaviour, not official behaviuour08:12
fsgxdroidokey, im using OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 201208:13
EvilResistanceyooo:  i'm not sure how the package is configured, i dont think the client is configured to listen/not listen either way08:13
EvilResistanceyooo:  but i didnt create the .deb, so i dont know08:13
EvilResistanceyooo:  i think default behavior is hardcoded, which is why I said you don't mix-and-match08:13
EvilResistance(for the *client*)08:13
yoooEvilResistance: ok ^^08:14
yoooJust, I like to try strange things :)08:14
fsgxdroidcan somebody with openssl version "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012" test the following command and send me pm with results: "openssl s_client -connect vortex.emt.ee:443"08:14
yoooActually, we're 4 in training, and we all have the same behaviour .... maybe that was something like a well known bug or something else08:14
EvilResistancefsgxdroid:  after my openssl updates, sure (if it ends up with that version)08:15
royk_which is the bst place to have sex with big boobs girl???08:17
oCeanroyk_: wrong channel, don't repeat that here08:17
aciculafsgxdroid: whats the problem you are experiencing with ssl?08:18
* fsgxdroid still looking persons who has openssl version "1.0.1 14 Mar 2012"08:18
fsgxdroidacicula: execute command "openssl s_client -connect vortex.emt.ee:443" and pm me results08:19
aciculafsgxdroid: no i wont, but whats the problem you are having?08:19
fsgxdroidacicula: im getting following error: http://pastebin.com/GjiR0cd308:20
fsgxdroidand i can't connect to my vpn08:20
fsgxdroidopenssl update caused my that problem08:21
yooofsgxdroid: I would say your client config is not properly set08:21
yoooI mean, openssl complains about client CA08:21
fsgxdroidyooo: when i execute " openssl s_client -connect google.com:443" it wont complain08:22
EvilResistancefsgxdroid:  but Google's SSL CertAuth certs are public and are included in most system CA certs08:22
EvilResistance!precise | FYI, fsgxdroid08:23
ubottuFYI, fsgxdroid: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+108:23
greenithi, i just bought the humble bundle, but when i unpack one of the games, there is a *.air format... how can i open this in linux?08:29
linociscoany body from Germany and poland?08:32
Attiegreenit: try adobe air08:32
greenitAttie, ok, is there a package in the repos?08:32
linociscoany body from Germany and poland?08:33
Attieshould be08:34
Attieits definately avaliable for ubuntu08:34
blekHi guys08:35
bleki have a problem with ubuntu server 11.10, my server reboot anyway08:35
Attiegreenit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1134479208:35
blekand in the log is all normal, who can help me?08:36
Treyvonblek It seems I must have liars and villains for opponents. I am not worthy in the sight of God that a godly and honorable person should discuss these matters with me in a Christian way. This is my greatest lament.08:37
TreyvonFrom Defense and Explanation of All the Articles, pg. 99 of Luther's Works, Vol. 3208:37
TreyvonYou do nothing with all your profusion of words but fight a fire with dry straw.08:38
TreyvonFrom The Bondage of the Will, pg. 236 of Luther's Works, Vol. 3308:38
oCeanTreyvon: stop that08:38
TreyvonoCean Your words are so foolishly and ignorantly composed that I cannot believe you understand them.08:39
TreyvonFrom Explanations of the Ninety-Five Theses, pg. 87 of Luther's Works, Vol. 3108:39
CellTechExactly what does "Sudo apt-get upgrade" do?08:39
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oCeanCellTech: fetches latest packages and performs upgrade08:39
CellTechHow about on xubuntu? Same thing08:39
oCeansure, that's same08:40
CellTechI'm doing sudo apt get update then upgrade on my xubuntu system08:41
autoditachi. is there a problem with network-manager in current precise? it lost all its submenus like wifi selection and vpn connection initialization.08:55
auronandace!topic | autoditac08:59
ubottuautoditac: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:59
autoditacauronandace: whoop. thanks - i'll ask there09:00
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Guest32799i have some problem in backtrack5 i need to install ATI drive bat09:13
weechat_user 09:14
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/938008/ <---- how can i get rid o this warning? i'm worried09:17
nimesh_accentureHi guys , I have chrooted ubuntu core 11.10 on top of android kernel 3.01 , Is there a way to check the stability of this chroot?09:17
icerootnimesh_accenture: using it09:18
icerootnimesh_accenture: or what do you mean with stability?09:18
qqa 09:19
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coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/938008/ <---- how can i get rid o this warning? i'm worried09:22
neurotechWhat's the term used to describe the security method on websites where you navigate to a page and a javascript(?) alert pops up asking for a username and password?09:22
qqa 09:26
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llutzcoolroot: check why you get those warnings, check if you can change something, do it.09:28
qqa 09:28
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qqa 09:33
the_legendsay whoop if your a programmer09:35
qqa 09:35
aciculacoolroot: are you using ubuntu? the warning is because you allow root to login in the sshd_config file09:36
coolrootacicula,  yes how can i disable that file?09:37
llutzcoolroot: man sshd_config09:37
hetiiI use pulseaudio i client/server mode on 2 server. When i select remote sink and play music via vls or other player then its play fine. Also its play ok when i play move on youtube that are stream using html5 but when i play flash then the sounds are shredded.09:37
aciculacoolroot: in the man page you will find a setting that disables root login via ssh, but if you are using ubuntu root has no password set and thus can not login to begin with09:37
q-dhello everybody09:38
qqa 09:38
nimesh_accentureiceroot: sorry i was away... I have used the android ICS kernel 3.01 and have chrooted ubuntu-core 11.10  , so is there a test to see if everything including audio/video/graphics etc09:38
aciculacoolroot: and the other warning is emitted by rkhunter, you need to check the logs from that tool to see about the warnings09:39
coolrooti already did check the logs hehe thanx acicula09:41
icerootnimesh_accenture: i dont know such a test, just use it so see if it is working09:41
coolrootacicula,  i need to read the man first thanx09:41
justanewbieany software to auto detect sniffer machine that have promisic network in a subnet in ubuntu?09:42
aciculacoolroot: i think the option is set in the sshd_config, you can just uncomment the option09:42
aciculajustanewbie: packetfence is an open source NAC system09:43
tegrahi, can i try the live cd of ubuntu 10.10 on ps3 systems ? it works ?09:43
aciculajustanewbie: might be able to detect it detect it with that09:43
auronandace!10.10 | tegra09:44
ubottutegra: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.09:44
zer0xhi, is there any progress with critical nvidia drivers (295.40) issue with very slow screen refresh etc?09:44
justanewbieacicula: thank you ,i've try09:45
coolrootacicula, btw how can i open the sshd_config?09:46
llutzcoolroot: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:48
nimesh_accenturei get this error when i do apt-get update . any clues what may be wrong?09:54
nimesh_accenturesh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied09:54
satyanash!11.04 | sattu9409:55
ubottusattu94: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/110409:55
mathewsIt is annoying that Update Manager gives this message after the updation a moment earlier. "The package information last updated 26 days ago"09:55
yohannnimesh_accenture: first do sudo -i09:58
yohannnimesh_accenture: then do what you wanted to do earlier09:58
mathewsIt is annoying that Update Manager gives this message after the updation a moment earlier. "The package information last updated 26 days ago". How this happened?09:59
aciculayohann: nimesh_accenture you can use sudo apt-get update to run that command as root09:59
yohannacicula: could i ask something about grub loader, its kind of off-topic but i have a ubuntu + win and i have a mac hfs+ partition but not booting10:00
nimesh_accentureyohann:i am already root10:00
aciculayohann: just post your question here, if anyone knows they will answer.10:01
aciculawhile i have a mac i've never attempted dualbooting it so i doubt im much help10:01
jiltdilI think /dev/null is already created there10:01
yohannnimesh_accenture: try sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/null10:01
nimesh_accentureacicula:i am already root , i'm on an embedded device and there is no sudo , so i became super user with su command10:02
traubisodahi all10:02
yohannhow do i include mac osx partitionin grub loader ? i tried update-grub, the mac partition is listed in the boot menu but doesnt boot properly10:02
aciculanimesh_accenture: what distro are you running?10:02
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traubisodaif i have 4 HDDs, and i'd like to RAID them in pairs(A-A, B-B), shall i use RAID1 or RAID10?10:02
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* jiltdil RAID is old idea i think , i am now using lvm10:03
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traubisodais that better? i'll use the pc as LAMP if that matters10:04
nimesh_accentureacicula: i'm running ubuntu core 11.10 chrooted on android ICS10:05
jiltdils/w or hardware  RAID. Which one you are using?10:05
nimesh_accentureacicula: Hardware is Pandaboard10:05
aciculanimesh_accenture: before chrooting did you mount the dev filesystem?10:06
traubisodanothing yet, i'm right at partitioning10:06
jiltdiltraubisoda,  LVM basically is traditional software RAID. It allows you to create RAID-0, and RAID-110:06
andrewhiggsHello everyone.10:06
nimesh_accenturei mounted these:10:06
nimesh_accenturebusybox mount -t devpts devpts $mnt/dev/pts10:06
nimesh_accenturebusybox mount -t proc proc $mnt/proc10:06
nimesh_accenturebusybox mount -t sysfs sysfs $mnt/sys10:06
FloodBot1nimesh_accenture: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:07
nimesh_accentureoops sorry10:07
jiltdiltraubisoda,  I prefer with lvm, also if i have to choose hardware or s/w RAID i will go with s/w raid10:07
jiltdilnimesh_accenture,  Are you creating lfs system?10:07
aciculanimesh_accenture: did you mount $mnt/dev/ ?10:07
traubisodajiltdil i started with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html ,now i'm az RAID configuration10:07
nimesh_accentureacicula: oops no10:08
andrewhiggsI am struggling to get tomcat (6.0.35) to work well on an Ubuntu Server currently testing on 12.04 but got same result on 11.04 and 11.10). The same application is running on a hosted solution with much better performance. I notice that the CPU does not appear to be being used (top shows %us to range between 5 and 15%) as much as the hosted solution (top show %us to be between 80 and 90%). How do I go about trouble shooting why the cpu is not being used to p10:08
nimesh_accentureacicula: i'll try to mount that and check10:08
jiltdiltraubisoda,  Thats fine10:08
nimesh_accentureacicula: thx!10:08
aciculanimesh_accenture: yw10:09
traubisodajiltdil so if i would like to mirror my HDDs in pairs(A-A B-B) can i use RAID10?10:09
jiltdiltraubisoda, Left using RAID some year ago, not much idea  at this time, shifted to lvm. Better to ask this from a currently RAID user10:11
traubisodajiltdil okay, thank you for your help:)10:11
jiltdiltraubisoda,  no problem :)10:12
traubisodaany RAID users here for a question?10:12
traubisodajiltdil just on more question that might solve my problem, do you know what striping is at mirroring?10:14
xtop7всем привет10:15
jiltdiltraubisoda, To create a striped-mirror volume, use the following command:# vxassist [-b] [-g diskgroup] make volume length \  layout=stripe-mirror [nmirror=number_mirrors] \ [ncol=number_of_columns] [stripewidth=size]10:16
tegralucid-desktop-powerpc+ps3.iso this work on ps3 ?10:17
jiltdiltraubisoda,  firstly please conforim this  perhabs i might forget something10:17
traubisodajiltdil thanks again:)10:18
jiltdiltraubisoda,  No problme :)  But i suggest to check that10:18
shadeshow can I specify apt-get to go through a proxy?10:19
shadeslike on port 8888 for example?10:19
traubisodajiltdil okay10:20
jiltdilshades, http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/distro/debian/deb10-AptRelated/ar01s03.html10:20
user82has the idea of the 750mb max. size vanished? (daily build 698M)10:21
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yohanni tried to install grub in the root ubuntu mount /dev/sda3  mounted as / now i get grub rescue, i booted to a ubuntu live on usb , how do i repair grub to detect my windows and ubuntu os'es?10:25
jmarahey, anyone tried 12.04 on a HP DL320/360 yet?10:25
MonkeyDustjmara  better ask in #ubuntu+110:25
Shinh_Wahelp me10:26
aciculashades: you can set a proxy in apt.conf10:26
aciculashades: man apt.conf, or use the package manager10:26
Shinh_WaTôi đang sử dụng 10.04.310:27
Shinh_Wahelp me10:27
Shinh_WaI'm using 10.04.310:27
Shinh_WaI updated to version 10.04.410:27
Shinh_Wathì run irc connecting vào chậm kinh khủng10:28
MonkeyDust!enter| Shinh_Wa10:28
ubottuShinh_Wa: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:28
Shinh_Waconnecting to the irc run terribly slow10:28
shadesI see an apt.conf.d/ but no apt.conf . . .10:28
Shinh_WaI'm using 10.04.3 I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow10:28
Shinh_WaI'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow10:29
SunTsushades: it would help if only asked in a single language then10:29
shadesSunTsu, what?10:29
andrewhiggsHow do I make Ubuntu allow more processing power to certain processes? In this case the tomcat process and the database connections it is using?10:29
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SunTsushades: uh, nevermind, wrong completion, sorry10:30
SunTsuShinh_Wa: it would help if only asked in a single language then10:30
Dedkovhello, есть русскоязычные ?10:31
Shinh_WaI'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow10:31
SunTsu!ru | Dedkov10:31
ubottuDedkov: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.10:31
Dedkov /join #ubuntu-ru10:31
Dedkovthank you10:32
SunTsuShinh_Wa: you didn't ask anything yet, are you going to anytime soon or did you just wanted us to know about your connection?10:32
jmaraMonkeyDust: thanks I'll try ;)10:32
shadesthis might be an easier issue resolved by having vmware bridge my network connection as the host machien is already dynamically forwarding10:32
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shadeswow I'm suprised at how much of that russian i could actually read10:34
Shinh_Wame as you want to fix sao to connect to irc fast10:34
hdevHi, where do I start if I have power consumption issues with my notebook? it is somehow using 33W according to powertop, on windows its around 12 on idle10:34
Shinh_Wafrom the self-update to 10.04.4 connect to irc delayed10:35
MonkeyDustShinh_Wa  try this line: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove10:36
shades    10:37
Shinh_WaSince the update to connect to irc 10.04.4 delayed terrible10:38
Shinh_Wahow to connect quickly irc right atrium now the ubuntu config like?10:39
yohanncan someone help me out with grub10:41
yohannit gives me a invalid arch independent elf magic10:41
aljosalooking for some package w/ ui to configure synaptics/mutlitouch. i've installed gsynaptics but it doesn't contain any tools. any tips?10:41
yohanngrub rescue10:41
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MonkeyDustaljosa  maybe this link (2009) is helpful http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/10/06/touchpad-configuration-for-ubuntu-9-10-grub-2/10:46
redAnyone know if you can set up remotedesktop so that if you open a link in irc/skype it would instead open on the local machine, and not on the rdesktopped machine?10:46
MonkeyDustred  rdesktop... a windows machine?10:47
redid like to somehow capture links from skype to my ubuntu instead having to copypaste10:48
redsince the clipboard is sorta glitchy at times10:48
MonkeyDustred  from the rdesktop manpage: "-r clipboard:[off|PRIMARYCLIPBOARD|CLIPBOARD] Enable clipboard redirection. 'PRIMARYCLIPBOARD' looks at both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD when sending data to server. 'CLIPBOARD' looks at only CLIPBOARD."10:51
orgthingyMy web-cam apparently doesnt work, I guess it's a driver-related issue..but, how can I know what's my webcam in order to download a driver for it? it's built-in10:52
traubisodayesterday i tried to install GUI on ubuntu server 11.10, but on boot the GUI didn't initalized, i tried to stop/start/restart it, no use. than i installed KDE then i was able to log in. After 'sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop' shall i install GDM too?10:54
redMonkeyDust: by glitchy, I ment that sometimes the clipboard interaction seizes to function10:55
traubisodafrom KDM i was able to log into lightdm and KDE too10:55
redi've tested all those modes10:55
gvoorthingy: lspci  or lsusb might find it.  Or you could look in dmesg and see if there's a mention of it at boot.10:55
redI copy something locally, but pasting it remotely pastes what is in the remote clipboard10:55
orgthingygvo: thanks10:56
tegrai tried ubuntu 10.04.4 iso on ps3 but doesn't work10:56
yohannmy grub is messed up can someone help it gives a grub rescue error10:57
Sidewinderorgthingy, Or, if it's built-in, there's always sudo lshw..10:57
tegrahow to boot 10.04.4 on ps3 ?10:57
* orgthingy never used that command before10:57
Sidewinderorgthingy, But gvo's probably correct, it's probably pci or usb.10:58
orgthingySidewinder: I didnt find it in lspci10:58
orgthingymaybe cuz I read too fast10:58
orgthingybut that command seems neat, Sidewinder10:58
gvoorgthingy: Sidewinder : I suspect hw will find it10:58
MonkeyDusttegra  red the red warning first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149278910:59
orgthingy^ gvo Sidewinder11:01
bartolonihi, there is a link for the 12.04 rc? (thx)11:01
MonkeyDustbartoloni  better ask in #ubuntu+111:02
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+111:02
gvoorgthingy: It doesn't look like it's there.11:03
bartolonithx sidewinder11:03
SidewinderMy pleasure. :-)11:03
yohanncan anyone help me out with grub >11:03
yohannmy whole system wont boot11:03
SidewinderCheese it, it's the cops.11:03
gvoyohann what's the error message.11:03
yohanngrub rescue11:04
yohannand invalid arch independent elf magic windows11:04
tegraMonkeyDust, without install ? it's possible ?11:04
tegraonly boot the iso11:04
gvoyohann:  at what point does it fail?11:04
yohanngvo: actually i had widnows first , then installed ubuntu and then mac on a hfs+ partition11:04
yohannit fails on boot11:05
yohanngrub is my default loader11:05
yohannverifying DMI Pool data... grub rescue>11:05
gvoyohann: at what step in the boot does it fail?11:05
tegracan't boot ubuntu on ps311:05
yohanni dont even get the boot menu at all11:05
gvoyohann Do you see the boot menu?11:05
yohannnot one bit11:05
gvoGrub or grub2?11:06
meomichey, im using ubuntu 10.10 x86-64, ihave problem with sound indicator - i have normal gnome instead of that ubuntu one (with players listed there) - how can i make it come back?11:06
gvoWhat did you do to cause it to fail or did it never work?11:06
yohanngvo: i think what caused the problem as that i did sudo apt-get install grub in my root ubuntu install paritition and i have windows installed also...ever since i did that i got the error11:07
yohannsudo apt-get install grub /dev/sda311:07
Sidewinder!eol > meomic11:09
ubottumeomic, please see my private message11:09
gvoyohann: I think you'll need to boot a live cd or usb drive and maybe run boot-repair11:09
yohannim already in live cd11:10
yohannlive usb11:10
yohanndo i just do boot-repair?11:10
gvoyohann if it's installed11:11
yohannif what is installed?11:11
gvoyohann: boot-repair11:12
gvoyohann: Gotta run.11:12
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yohanngvo: thanks11:12
root 11:18
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tkostov1Hi all where can i get a bit help about ubuntu ssh und tar pipinng11:21
MonkeyDusttkostov1  in #ubuntu11:22
fideltkostov1: maybe inhere - if you describe your real problem11:22
asidoyou probably want scp?11:22
tkostov1no scp does not work11:22
tkostov1because of the number of files11:22
tkostov1i am planning to use tar piping over ssh11:22
MonkeyDusttkostov1  then try rsync11:22
tkostov1i can create ssh connection to server11:23
tkostov1and then i have no idea how to retreve the data from it11:23
MonkeyDusttkostov1  rsync over ssh may be what you want11:23
t0m5k1tkostovl i recommend you set up some key's so you do not need to declare the pword11:23
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tkostov1but how to create the connection11:24
tkostov1it hast to be ssh root@server11:24
tkostov1and then ?11:24
t0m5k1im sure the ubuntu wiki will help in setting up the keys for the initial ssh connection then after that you can work out whether you need rsync etc11:24
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nbubuntuanyone know whether the latest ubuntu 12.04 support z77 board ?11:24
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tkostov1# tar cvzf - /wwwdata | ssh root@ "dd of=/backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"11:25
fidel!12.04 | nbubuntu11:25
ubottunbubuntu: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+111:25
tkostov1# tar zcvf - /wwwdata | ssh root@ "cat > /backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"11:25
tkostov1i was planning to use something like that11:25
MonkeyDusttkostov1  root@server is not a good idea11:25
tkostov1but i have to get the tarbal from the server11:26
tkostov1not copy on it11:26
tkostov1ok I`ll use other user11:26
fideltkostov1: most likely possible using another user as well. login via ssh as root is often even disallowed by ssh-config (sidenote)11:26
t0m5k1tkostovl would it not be better to do this in reverse11:26
nbubuntufidel : Thanks :)11:26
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tkostov1t0m5k1: how exatcly11:27
tkostov1ist my question11:27
adminoiranyone good with Postfix config? Im getting the old Relay error sending from Thunderbird11:27
t0m5k1i mean have the server itself create the tarball then dump it where it needs to go via a cron job which initiates a scritp11:27
asido 11:27
tkostov1t0m5k1: the host where the tar is behind a nat11:28
tkostov1and cannot be connected to it..11:28
LintI cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition11:30
LintI have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:50011:30
wondermancan someone tell me how to remove the policy chains that UFW inserts to netfilter?11:32
yohanncan someone pleease help me with grub i cant boot anything11:36
yohannno windows no ubuntu no mac no nothing11:36
MonkeyDust!details| yohann11:38
ubottuyohann: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:38
yohannit started when i did a sudo grub-install into the linux root drive11:38
yohannbefore that i dont know where grub was installed11:39
shadesI seem to be having a hard time getting ubuntu to apt-get through a proxy11:39
yohannbut after i did that (i was tryng to boot mac too, off of grub loader) i got a grub rescue and a invalid arch independent elf magic windows11:39
yohannnow i dont know what i did in the live usb but i managed to get something running here11:39
Therion87You don't install it to just the linux drive say sda1 with mac on sda2 you install it to sda11:40
yohanni got a gnu grub version 1.99 running11:40
shadeshttp://thanhpt25.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/configure-apt-get-with-proxy/ I followed this guide but still no luck11:40
Therion87Ok well you need to boot to a live cd and reisntall it to sda11:40
Therion87not sda311:40
yohannit says minimal bash like line editing is supported for the first word tab lists possible command completetions11:40
shadesanyidea what gives?11:40
dryliketoast@shades u just need to define the proxy enviroment variable11:41
MonkeyDustyohann  sda is a device, sda3 is a partition11:41
yohannoh so i have to do grub-install sda?11:41
yohannok ill do that now hold on11:41
yohannoh yeah i have windows too will that affect anything?11:42
Therion87All will show in the grub11:42
ZerpexHi guys, I'm currently sitting here, and I have domain1.com that needs to act like domain2.com, can I point domain1.com to actually go to domain2.com in the hosts file?11:42
Therion87After install make sure you run grub-update11:42
yohannoh ok thanks11:42
amokpauleHello, i have an ati card installed. I use the fgrlx driver and i do my settings over the catalyst control center. On every reboot now it resets my settings.11:42
Atlantic777On ubuntu server on an old PC i have some problems with graphics. At the first time, everything worked well but then (I don't know when) I can't see GRUB and tty is all shite with some unreadable characters. I still have ssh access to that machine, monitor is connected to it, too. It's the same with and without nomodeset in grub boot options. Any ideas?11:44
yohannTherion87: im in live usb doing what you said now11:45
Therion87Lemme know how it goes11:46
yohannit says error11:46
Therion87I'm not sure about that might happen with it already installed to sda3 tho11:46
Therion87What error?11:46
MonkeyDust"computer says no" ;)11:46
yohanncannot find device11:46
yohannfor /boot/grub11:46
yohannis /dev mounted?11:46
yohannthats what it said11:47
Therion87Before running grub type11:47
yohann  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) (thats the full error)11:47
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/938148/ <---- got something here any help?11:47
Therion87mount /dev/sda11:47
yohanncannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:48
zvacetyohann:  try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair to repair grub11:48
shades    http://pastebin.com/EB1sHyA511:48
pangolin!paste | yohann11:48
ubottuyohann: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:48
Therion87Try that little app install it on thelive CD11:49
yohannok ill paste but im actually on my laptop not on the pc11:49
Therion87Looks like a nice little app11:49
zvacetyohann:  you are running hackintosh on pc?11:50
yohannzvacet: i have 3 os'es11:51
yohannwindows first11:51
yohannthen installed ubuntu11:51
yohannand now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partivetion i chopped off some dri11:51
yohannand now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partition i chopped off some drive11:51
shadesany ideas why my connection isn't forwarding?11:52
zvacetyohann: pirated software is not supported here11:52
Lintyohann, if you need to have /dev dir mounted into chroot environment11:52
MonkeyDustyohann  maybe you want too much11:52
yohannyeah i know im not asking about hackintosh11:52
yohanni figured i was asking for too much11:52
pangolinyohann, Please give the enter key a rest11:52
jiltdilHow to be some channel operators? ;)11:53
zvacetyohann: yes,you are asking to put hackintosh on ghrub it is not supported here move on11:53
pangolinjiltdil, that has nothing to do with ubuntu, ask in #freenode11:53
Mileswhen  trying to resume from hibernate the process hangs at the console with the last line "image loaded successfully"11:54
Milesis that a known problem?11:54
yohannlooks like boot repair might be doing the trick11:54
LyferHi! I have hit upon a huge problem: I was updating to Ubuntu 11.10 and in the middle the system shut down (due to overheating) and now I am in a state where my system won't start properly and I don't know what to do.12:00
usr13Lyfer: How far does it get?12:01
LyferIf I try to start the normal mode, the startup just hangs, without any clear error messages. And it won't start the x-server12:01
LyferI can start in fail safe mode and from there it is possible to start the x-server with startx.12:01
LyferI will restart it now and see exactly what it says. Wait two secs.12:02
usr13Lyfer: Try the update from fail safe mode.12:02
fidelLyfer: i would try to see the error-message while the normal boot - to understand where it hangs12:02
LyferI have tried to update in fail safe mode but nothing happens.12:03
fidelboot-splashes are usualy not helpful at all - as they hide infos you might otherwise see12:03
LyferIt may be that the process have destroyed some configuration but I don't know how to reset it.12:03
yohanni treid fixing my grub loader12:03
yohannbut i get a old grub 1.9912:03
usr13Lyfer: You really need to fix the hardware issue before going any farther.  (Fix your PC so that  it no longer overheats.)12:03
zvacetLyfer: try with sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install12:04
yohannno options no menu just a "grub >  "  thing where i can type in some commands or something12:04
zvacet!piracy | yohann12:04
ubottuyohann: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o12:04
Lyferusr13: I know. It is old and bad. The fix may very well be to throw it away.12:04
usr13Lyfer: What is it?  Desktop?  Laptop?12:05
Lyferusr13: Laptop12:05
yohannok sorry, but isnt grub discussion not a part of hackintosh discussions? im not asking about hakintosh12:05
usr13Lyfer: See that the fan is in working order.  Take it apart and clean it, etc.12:06
usr13Lyfer: .... apply new thermal grease12:06
Lyferusr13: Yes, I guess I'll have to. Right now I try to allow for better air flow and it seems to help slightly.12:07
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SidewinderLyfer, A few yrs. ago my wife had lappy over-heat problems; she bought and is thrilled with one of those external fans that sit under the lappy..12:08
LyferThe "ubuntu" splash screen comes on, then it disappears. The last message in the startup is "Starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]"12:08
SidewinderLyfer, Just ignore the additional noise. :-)12:09
LyferIt is possible to ssh login to the computer in its current condition as well.12:09
SidewinderAnd make sure that you're zipper is up. :)12:09
LyferSidewinder: Oh, sounds too dangerous for me. ;)12:10
MonkeyDustLyfer i havent followed, i'm here over ssh, what do you mean by current condition12:10
LyferMonkeyDust: My computer does not start properly.12:10
stimpiedoes any one know of a ready argument to use syslog for central logging over windows event log? I need to convince a windows admin we should move to centralized syslog12:10
black_i want to view NOAA charts, in raster format, but i cant understand what application to use in ubuntu.12:11
pangolinstimpie, try ##windows12:11
LyferI would be happy if I could just clean out all startup config files and replace them with what would be a fresh installation.12:11
stimpiepangolin, good suggestion ;-)12:12
Sidewinderblack_, Have you tried 'Gimp"?12:12
MonkeyDustLyfer  do you get past the grub menu or not even that?12:12
LyferMonkeyDust: Yepp, I get the "Ubunut" splash screen and then it disappears.12:12
black_sidewinder, no but they are sort of in a folder, with some data files that i cant understand12:13
Lyferzvacet: Doesn't do anything. :(12:14
Sidewinderblack_, I know nothing about "Raster", sorry,  but I would try opening in Gimp, it should already be installed, and see if that helps.12:14
MonkeyDustLyfer  hm, not sure, but try the basic ssh [remote user]@[remote ip]12:14
black_sidewinder, thank you for your information12:15
phrykusr13: Apply new thermal paste… On a laptop?12:15
Sidewinderblack_, Also Blender is a CAD like program (I've never used it), that might help..12:15
LyferMonkeyDust: The ssh works. That is not the issue. The issue is that the desktop does not load.12:15
phrykYou do realize this will void all warranties that might be left? o_O12:15
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Lyferphryk: The computer is WAAAAY past that.12:15
phrykLyfer: Do you have any experience opening up laptops?12:16
Guest41493does anyone know what netcat is?12:16
Sidewinderblack_, My pleasure; I just wish I could've given you something more definitive.12:16
MonkeyDustLyfer  do you want a gui over ssh? what do you mean by 'the desktop does not load'?12:16
Lyferphryk: Nope, so I don't know if I will attempt it.12:16
black_sidewinder, those are nautical charts, i was wondering if you knew any char application meant for electronic charts12:16
oCeanGuest41493: tool to open/view tcp connections, send packets etc, can do *lots*.12:17
LyferMonkeyDust: No, I want to be able to start my computer. I just tried to tell anyone listening that it was possible to do an ssh login. Thus trying to define the state of my computer.12:17
phrykLyfer: Then simply don't. If it's a thinkpad you might be able to do it, if it's anything else it'll likely break. Just hold a vacuum cleaner up to the 'Exhaust pipe' of your laptop, that ought to suck out most of the dust.12:17
Sidewinderblack_, Yes, I'm a pilot and have also done much marine navigation; so I know NOAA... :-)12:17
fl1bbl3Lyfer: if you can ssh then your computer HAS started12:17
fl1bbl3Guest41493: yes12:18
oCeanblack_: could this be helpful? (it's not a package that is in the ubuntu repositories..)12:18
fl1bbl3it can be used in a whole raft of ways12:18
phrykGuest41493: Very simple tool for network analysis.12:18
black_sidewinder, i am really sorry, i didnt knew that.. :D12:18
Lyferfl1bbl3: OK, bad wording from my side. It starts but it does not complete the startup sequence, ie., it does not load the login screen.12:18
fl1bbl3Lyfer: do you mean it won't show _anything_ or that it won't start X?12:19
black_oCean , i didnt get you12:19
Sidewinderblack_, I would just try gimp and if that doesn't do what you want, maybe Blender but I doubt it.. :-(12:19
Lyferfl1bbl3: It won't start x and it won't give me a login screen (except in fail safe mode, where I can login and start x manually using "startx")12:19
oCeanblack_: right, forgot to paste the link :)  http://polarnavy.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/linux-installation-instructions/12:20
fl1bbl3can you boot into recovery mode?12:21
fl1bbl3so its your X setup thats broken12:21
ariel__can someone tell me why i cant seem to find oracle java for ubuntu 11.1912:21
phrykLyfer: Did you try to do ctrl+alt+f2 and then login on the tty and try to execute startx by hand?12:21
Sidewinderblack_, Yes, what oCean said; you'll probably have better chances trying that. Thanx, oCean !12:21
Lyferfl1bbl3: Very possibly so, but I don't know how to fix it.12:22
phrykLyfer: also first `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log`12:22
MrWobzHello, does anyone have experiance sharing an internet connection via network/interfaces12:22
black_oCean , thank you for that, i was looking for something like that.12:22
pentagonpieIf i prefer KDE. is there any reason for me to stay with ubuntu and not switch to a distro with KDE as default?12:23
bobweaverMrWobz,  like teathering or something like that ?12:23
LyferI could even do an ssh and start the x-server from there.12:23
bobweaverLyfer,  Yes12:23
llutz!info qlandkartegt  | black_12:23
ubottublack_: qlandkartegt (source: qlandkartegt): GPS mapping (GeoTiff and vector) and GPSr management. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-1 (oneiric), package size 3362 kB, installed size 6580 kB12:23
MrWobzBasically I have a server colocated, I want to colocate another but dont want to buy a switch12:23
MrWobzI am only allowed one internet feed, both servers have two nics12:23
bobweaver!vnc | Lyfer12:23
ubottuLyfer: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:23
OerHekspentagonpie, one reason is great support, US !12:23
Lyferbobweaver: OK, thanks but that's not what I am looking for.12:24
bobweaverbut all the cool kids are using mutt and screen Lyfer12:24
Lyferbobweaver: I just want to be able to start my computer.12:24
bobweaverlike starting over lan ? Lyfer12:24
Lyferbobweaver: Nope, by pressing the "ON" button. :-(12:25
Lyferbobweaver: My startup process is somehow corrupted.12:25
bobweaverLyfer,  you are getting busybox ?12:25
fl1bbl3lol, bobweaver I fetchmail my gmail into mutt and screen :D12:25
bobweaversee all the cool kids are using it ;>)12:26
fl1bbl3agreed :)12:26
bobweaverMrWobz,  how many servers ?12:27
bobweaverpuppet chef is why I ask ^^12:27
pentagonpieOerHeks, but what is the difference in the OS if I have ubuntu with KDE vs openSUSE with default KDE ?12:27
Lyferphryk: What should I look for in the log?12:27
MrWobzI have two nics, one used for internet feed and one for sharing on two servers12:28
bobweaverMrWobz,  not sure but maybe adhoc it is called I could 100% be wrong on that one there12:28
OerHekspentagonpie, the software/packagemanager and i asume the artwork12:28
bobweaverI have made switches out of router/firewalls12:28
MrWobzadhoc is sharing a wifi connection...12:29
Lyferphryk: Trying to start the x server from there does not work properly. "No protocol specified"12:29
phrykLyfer: From the tty? o_O12:30
LintI cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition12:30
LintI have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:50012:30
bobweaverMrWobz,  do you have any old crappy boxs laying around ?12:30
hdevIs there an easy way to make particular applications launch in on a certain workspace using compiz/unity?12:31
Lyferphryk: Yes. It tries to start but it goes black, then going back to the tty I see this message.12:31
Lyferphryk: Over and over again.12:31
phrykLyfer: I had lots of X-troubles, but that never happened to me…^^12:31
bobweaverLyfer,  in tty type in lspci -nn | grep VGA12:32
bobweaverwhat is card Lyfer12:32
Lyferbobweaver: Don't know. But I can get the X-server running. Not from there though.12:32
bobweaverLyfer,  when it stalls on boot press ctrl+alt+f112:32
bobweaverdo you get to cammand screen ?12:33
bobweavercommand *12:33
Lyferbobweaver: Yes, I get that. I don't even know if it is the X-server that is the problem or something else that starts before that.12:33
bobweaverDont run startx12:33
Guest41493Ubuntu sucks12:33
MrWobzbobweaver I dont have time to play around unfortunately, and one nic is disabled on the currently colocated box so I need to set it up now or rent a switch which is costly considering i have just two servers12:33
bobweaverLyfer,  sign in and then run lspci -nn | grep VGA12:34
Lyferbobweaver: Radeon Mobility X1600 - ATI. This is an old computer.12:34
bobweaverLyfer,  what is the # in [56765 5665]12:35
bobweaverLyfer,  like mine is  [8086:0046]12:35
Lyferbobweaver: I just shut the computer off. Will restart it shortly.12:35
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bobweaverLyfer,  cool12:35
g0bl1nhi, anyone using login do an Ubuntu laptop with a Yubikey ?12:36
g0bl1nwith OTP12:36
Lyferbobweaver: [1002:71c5]12:37
bobweaverthanks Lyfer12:37
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bobweaverLyfer,   sudo lshw -C display     what driver is loaded ?12:38
bobweaverLyfer,  configuration: driver=radeon ??12:39
goodyobHow do I keep the volume, brightness, and connection settings from resetting each time I restart my laptop?12:40
DarsVaeda1hi, I placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command12:40
DarsVaeda1how do I get rid of that?12:40
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bobweaverDarsVaeda,  can you show us the .desktop file ?12:41
ReXHaviKubuntu is running on vbox-headless on a entertainment center server, vbox is serving up via rdp to client running ubuntu, rdp offers up sound to client, the issue is that i have sound coming out of both the client and the server, client has a bit of delay, can i keep sound from the vbox going to the client without denying the server sound,?12:41
DarsVaedabobweaver: sure12:41
Lyferbobweaver: Yes, and latency=012:41
bobweaverLyfer,  ok and cool ! lets see where it is erroring out         LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo12:42
Guest41493anyone knows what netcat is12:42
DarsVaedabobweaver:  if I remember what launcher files where called again12:42
Lyferbobweaver: Should I write that?12:42
bobweaver!info netcat | Guest4149312:42
ubottuGuest41493: netcat (source: netcat): TCP/IP swiss army knife -- transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-39 (oneiric), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB12:42
bobweaverLyfer,  yup12:42
bobweaverLyfer,   LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo12:43
Guest41493who wants my shell?12:43
Lyfer"Error: unable to open display"12:43
Lyfer^ bobweaver12:43
bobweaverthanks Lyfer12:43
Guest41493nc 123412:43
bobweaverLyfer,  try  glxinfo | grep vendor12:44
Guest41493if you want my shell im listening12:44
Lyferbobweaver: "Error: unable to open display"12:44
bobweaverGuest41493,  do you have a ubuntu related question ?12:44
bobweaverLyfer,  arghh12:44
Lint!dpkg samba-bin12:45
Guest41493i can't add icons to my desktop12:45
bobweaverLyfer,  dmesg | grep drm12:45
Lint!version samba-bin12:45
Lyferbobweaver: A screen full. Anything particular to look for?12:46
AlphaGuyyAnyone know how to partion a drive without formating it?12:46
bobweaverLyfer,   radeon kernel modesetting enabled. drm radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.12:46
totemdr_willis: do you ubuntu too?12:46
Lintyou are ignoring me12:47
Guest41493bobweaver, i have a questio how do i add icons to my desktop12:47
bobweaverLyfer,  what ubuntu is this ? unity12:47
Lyferbobweaver: Yes, that I have, followed by (RV530 and a bunch hex-numbers12:47
OerHeks!info samba12:47
ubottusamba (source: samba): SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.5.11~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 (oneiric), package size 7811 kB, installed size 22504 kB12:47
DarsVaedawhat are launcher files called again?12:47
bobweaverLyfer,  good12:47
DarsVaedaLint: ahh the obvious -.- thanks12:48
bobweaverLyfer,  brb coffee12:48
Lintis there samba-4 in ubuntu?12:48
DarsVaedaI placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command -> here is the launcher file: http://pastebin.com/pW4QP1AX12:50
bobweaverLyfer,  what is ubuntu  version that you are using and desktop also plz12:51
bobweaverDarsVaeda,  change gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse    to     gnome-terminal --working-directory /usr/bin/ `bash -lc "gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse & "` ;12:53
MonkeyDustLyfer  type lsb_release -sd12:53
Lyferbobweaver: The problems started when I was updating to 11.10 and got a power outage in the middle of the process.12:53
DarsVaedabobweaver: thanks!12:53
bobweaverLyfer,  you got a hardrive to backup your stuff12:54
Lyferbobweaver: All of what is important at least. :)12:54
bobweaverDarsVaeda,  that is not 100% so test out first12:54
Lyferbobweaver: I would be willing to reinstall from scratch I guess.12:54
Guest41493nc 123412:54
LmAtI think yesterday I was disrespecting elinks.  I've since changed my mind.12:54
bobweaverDarsVaeda, you also do not need the --working--dir but it is good to have12:54
Guest41493connect to me12:55
Lyferbobweaver: BUT it would be nice IF I could solve this anyway. Just because... :p12:55
LmAtI think that my problem is that I was using tmux over ssh which caused things to display very poorly.12:55
Guest41493is easy as 12312:55
LmAtI just reached over to the actual terminal and used it to load a page and it looks excellent!12:55
bobweaverLyfer, yah I would back up my home folder and what not 1st and all that gazz12:55
MonkeyDustLmAt  screen over ssh works like a charm12:55
bobweaverLyfer,  you could also try to upgrade to it right now after backing up hardrive12:55
Lyferbobweaver: I have tried updating it. Nothing happens. It claims to be updated already.12:56
bobweaverLyfer, a sudo do-release-upgrade -d  ?12:56
Lyferbobweaver: I would like to try to clean out the startup config files12:56
bobweaverback up 1st12:56
DarsVaedabobweaver: works in the terminal but not as a launcher12:57
Lyferbobweaver: Now something is happening.12:57
Lyferbobweaver: So what does this command mean? :-)12:58
bobweaverDarsVaeda, try to switch out gnome terminal with x-terminal-emulator -e12:58
bobweaverLyfer,  that upgrades version12:59
bobweaverlike from 10.10 to .11.012:59
Lyferbobweaver: And the -d option?12:59
bobweavernot sure12:59
benjickHello. Is there any way I can preconfigure an iso for ubuntu? I want to just start the setup, punch in IP/gateway/dns and it should install the packages I've chosen12:59
bobweaverLyfer,  but I 100% trust where I got that info12:59
AttieGuest41493; o/13:00
bobweaverLyfer,  and I have ran it many many many times13:00
Lyferbobweaver: Yeah, I don't mistrust it, I was just curious. :-)13:00
Guest41493Attie, can you please try to hack me13:00
OerHeksbenjick, sounds like you want preseeding >> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html13:00
bobweaverLyfer,  always ask questions !13:00
Attieuhh... why?13:01
benjickOerHeks: Is that available in newer versions of ubuntu?13:01
Guest41493or can you show me how13:01
Lyferbobweaver: I thought I should consider this a time to learn more, rather than a "tear your hair" moment.13:01
Xtremeguys which audio player should i install for movies and music?13:01
Xtremewhich is nice one?13:01
OerHeksbenjick, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html is the same, and will be available in 12.04 too.13:01
Attiei'm sure google can help, what exactly are you trying to do?13:02
Guest41493not really13:02
bobweaverLyfer,  I have a computer that was upgrading using them commands and my dog pulled the power cord out half way though so I feel your pain13:02
LmAtMonkeyDust: hmm13:02
bobweaverLyfer,  but everything worked out in the end takes like 2 hr depends on connection13:02
Guest41493attie im scanning your ip with nmap13:02
LmAtMonkeyDust: It might be my ssh client.  I'm using putty on Win XP...13:03
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct13:03
Attiegood good13:03
LmAtLet me check outside of tmux.13:03
Lyferbobweaver: I have a super-connection. I am sitting at my workplace at the university.13:03
bobweaverGuest41493, If I was mod I ban you butt13:03
shadesmy sources.list has but for some reason apt-get still isn't port forwarding on 88813:03
Guest41493what is mod?13:03
LmAtMonkeyDust: I checked outside tmux, and it looks like crap.  It must be my putty client.  How can i fix it?13:04
bobweaverWill some mod ban that fool he has 100% said that he is scanning people with nmap13:04
benjickOerHeks: thank you13:04
Guest41493bobweaver, you didn't even answer my question when i ask13:04
shadeshow do I get apt-get to forward through this?13:04
MonkeyDustLmAt  not sure what you mean, i'm familiar with putty on XP, but what is it you want to do13:04
Guest41493bobweaver, how do i add icons to my desktop13:04
LmAtMonkeyDust: In fact, even Tmux doesn't display correctly.  The divider between windows is a bunch of a with accent ague instead of blocks.13:04
Guest41493but nobody answers me13:04
Xtremeguys, i have installed flash player, but i am not getting any audio output from firefox13:04
LmAtMonkeyDust: I want it to display correctly.13:04
Xtremewhat can i do?13:04
nettezzaumanawould anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu13:05
MonkeyDustLmAt  ah, so want to know how tmux works? dont know, i'm happy with byobu/screen13:05
LmAtMonkeyDust: No, it's not tmux.  Any program with "advanced" output (such as tmux, elinks, lynx, etc,etc) doesn't show up correctly.13:06
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shadesas 'apt-get socks proxy' has backhat seo sites coming up within the first page13:07
ayakahttp://paste.debian.net/163938/  it seems getty don't start and udev don't create tty0-31,i use some script in rc.local to print that13:07
LmAtMonkeyDust: I haven't narrowed it down much more than that, but, for instance, the bar that separates tmux windows is a bunch of 'a's, not a bar (block of green)13:07
Guest41493bobweaver, fuck you13:07
Xtremeguys anyone?13:07
bluegoonHi guys, how can I access my C: drive from terminal?13:07
LmAtMonkeyDust: Also, elinks shows all kinds of crap all over the place instead of the cool shapes that it's supposed to show.13:07
Guest41493bobweaver, you dumb bitch13:07
LmAtMonkeyDust: I guess I'll have to make a new ssh client...13:07
* LmAt sighs13:07
nettezzaumanaXLV: ask for a gods sake, don't ask to ask or if is anyone here13:07
LordXe-gnusomehow wine was uninstalled from my system (perhaps to resolve a conflict at some point?) but I need it back.  I'm seeing this http://slexy.org/view/s2uYNUkLrQ (sorry for a little redundancy in it)13:08
XtremeMonkeyDust: can u help?13:09
LordXe-gnuI just completed an update/upgrade using aptitude also, but no help13:09
bluegoonHi guys13:09
bluegoonHow do I browse my hard drive from terminal?13:09
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, try  sudo apt-get reinstall wine13:10
fidelbluegoon: start with 'ls'13:10
LordXe-gnubluebomber, how do you mean browse? like a command line file manager?13:10
bobweaverbluegoon,  how do you mean ?13:10
fidelor: man ls13:10
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LordXe-gnud'oh, meant bluegoon13:10
nettezzaumanawould anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu13:10
LmAtbluegoon: I'm a bit of a newb, but try "cd /".13:10
LmAtbluegoon: Unfortunately, other things besides your hard drive are in there, too.13:10
bluegoonLmAt: That would only go to the root folder.13:10
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, it looked like it works but still no /usr/bin/wine after :/13:10
LmAtbluegoon: The linux file-system is very different than the Windows one.13:11
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, try whereis wine13:11
LmAtbluegoon: Everything on your hard drive (I think) (and much more!) is under cd /13:11
bluegoonLmAt: I have a second internal hard drive, how do I browse to it in terminal?13:11
geekbribluegoon: you can use cd to change directories and ls to list files in the diretories13:11
LmAtbluegoon: You have to ensure it's "mounted"13:11
bobweaverbluegoon,  there is a tutorial by a man named cazz giffen or something like that on youtube I 100% say watch it13:11
fidelbluegoon: depends on where you've mounted that drive13:11
bluegoonbobweaver: ok thank you13:11
LmAtbluegoon: What happens is You attach that hard drive to your computer, then you need to decide where it should show up under "cd /"13:11
bobweaverchazz giffen * IDK how to spell it13:11
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: in short, list the content (files) of the all wine related packages in your system13:12
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, oh, curious... it found it in /usr/bin/wine but bash can't run it... hrm13:12
MonkeyDustLmAt i'm not familiar with tmux13:12
MonkeyDustXtreme  with what?13:12
geekbribluegoon: typing "mount" will show you all mounted drives, but that may not be overly helpful to you if you dont know the device name13:12
LmAtbluegoon: So you decide where it should go (perhaps /media/newdrive) and "mount" it there.13:12
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, try ls -al /usr/bin/wine13:12
nettezzaumanachmod +x  LordXe-gnu13:12
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, indeed ls found it, very interesting13:12
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LmAtMonkeyDust: It doesn't matter!  It's not an issue with tmux, it is my putty client.  But I guess you're wanting to know what it should look like and what it does look like... just a sec.13:12
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, what are the permissions?13:12
ariel__does anybody here have aptana installed on ubuntu 11.10?13:13
bobweaverbluegoon,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UtIe4nL6BmY13:13
LmAtMonkeyDust: http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux5.png There's tmux.13:13
bobweaverthat is the dude ^^13:13
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, -rwxr-xr-x13:13
XtremeMonkeyDust: i am not getting any sound from flashplayer in firefox.. i tried youtube and other sites13:13
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, try running it as /usr/bin/wine instead of wine13:13
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, same result13:14
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: full line ``ls -la /usr/bin/wine''13:14
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9684 2011-12-13 19:13 /usr/bin/wine13:14
LmAtMonkeyDust: And instead of the lines separating windows, I get the letter 'a' with hat accents (accent ague?).13:14
LmAtMonkeyDust: Also, in elinks, I lots of artifacts.13:15
FirartixHello, is there any way to specify the default display manager to use ?13:15
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, I would try sudo apt-get remove --purge wine before reinstalling it13:15
MonkeyDustLmAt  sorry dude, can't help13:15
MrKeunerLordXe-gnu, never seen this before13:15
LordXe-gnuMrKeuner, hm, worth a shot -- stand by :)13:15
bobweaverFinnish,  look at sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager13:15
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: is ``ldd /usr/bin/wine'' without errors ?13:15
nettezzaumanano need to paste here or wherever13:15
FirartixBecause i accidentally installed gdm, but i'd like to use lightdm anyway !13:15
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, not a dynamic executable (according to ldd)13:15
bobweaverFirartix,  sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st13:15
llutzLordXe-gnu: you are on amd64? maybe need to install ia32libs13:15
LordXe-gnullutz, indeed I am on amd6413:16
Firartixokay, thanks, i'll have a look at this13:16
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: well, the wine invocation works ? eg you can type for example `wine notepad' in your ~/.wine/drive_c/.... ? so the wine fails ?13:16
aciculayou do not need 32bit libs to run wine13:17
crazydiamondHi. How to figure out what X config file is used now?13:17
llutzacicula: sure? "depends on ia32-libs" ....13:17
bobweavercrazydiamond,  update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st13:18
nettezzaumanacrazydiamond: no files is used now because the X reads a cfg file only on startup and then they closes() all FDs13:18
Firartixbobweaver: wait no, i meant the Display Manager, not Window manager13:18
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, nope it does not work13:18
LordXe-gnuso I have an interseting error here13:18
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: so the script /usr/bin/wine doesn't work correctly ? right ?13:18
Xtremeapt-get error "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"13:19
LordXe-gnuhttp://slexy.org/view/s2QeDMZv4Z <-- on trying to reinstall after remove --purge13:19
nettezzaumanabut i's not like that you've annouced that the wine has disappeared from your system13:19
Xtremei tried killing apt-get13:19
LmAtMonkeyDust: I crashed irssi by trying to put in odd characters :-/13:19
shadesapt-get really needs to be ble to specify to reap through a proxy13:19
LmAtMonkeyDust: How would you put in the extended ascii 195 for instance from http://www.asciitable.com/13:19
auronandace!fixapt | Xtreme13:19
ubottuXtreme: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:19
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, yeah I was unable to execute it at all.. though now I'm trying to reinstall it so I don't have it atm to try ;p13:19
bobweaverFirartix,  what do you get with sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager  I could be wrong on this one please read up13:20
aciculallutz: err im on 64bit and i dont see that dependency show up for wine13:20
ayakathank you all13:20
nimesh_accentureguys i'm  getting this error on ubuntu-core 11.10 chrooted on Android ICS :  Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com' . is this a DNS issue? i changed /etc/resolve.conf with my local DNS ip add... the ubuntu-server version 11.10 works fine..13:20
llutzacicula: i'm on 64bit too and thats a line from "apt-cache depends wine", but i'm on debian...13:20
LordXe-gnu(this looks bad because it's leaving ia32-libs unresolved as llutz mentioned I might need)13:20
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: are you some real newbie in linux ? asking because of need to decide what way out i'll point you13:20
LmAtMonkeyDust: In doss command.com, it's straightforward: while holding alt, press 1,9,513:21
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, no I've been around the linux block so to speak ;p13:21
Firartixbobweaver: it lists up the display managers, ie. awesome/mutter/fluxbox/etc13:21
Xtremeauronandace: same error13:21
LmAtMonkeyDust: I tried that same procedure and got Capital A.13:21
aciculallutz: thats what i did too, wasnt in the list13:21
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LmAtNo, I get A with a tilde over it.13:21
Firartix* 0            /usr/bin/metacity       60        mode automatique13:21
Firartix  1            /usr/bin/awesome        20        mode manuel13:21
llutzacicula: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wine    lists ia32-libs13:22
bobweaverFirartix,  what is dm that you want ?13:22
LmAtMonkeyDust: Anytay, when an application attempts to write these characters to putty, they aren't displayed correctly.13:22
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: `set -x; exec 2>/tmp/wine_wrapper.log;' on the 2nd line of wine wrapper and happy debugging, should be quite easy13:22
auronandaceXtreme: try sudo apt-get install -f13:22
Firartixjust lightdm13:22
Firartixinstead of gdm13:22
bobweaversudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm13:23
Firartixsince it's not installed anymore <_<13:23
Xtremethanks, it worked13:23
Xtremetrying to install pulseaudio to get audio working in firefox13:23
auronandaceXtreme: never kill apt-get13:23
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, I'm not able to convince wine to even execute ;p I think llutz may be on to i though... I have had this problem before where a lib for the wrong arch (either 32- or 64-bit) is "ignored" and everything just acts like it doesn't exist, hm.13:23
aciculallutz: indeed it does, i checked with precise, which uses wine1.4, its dropped there. so sorry for the confusion13:24
mbrochhhey guys... the app switching in Ubuntu is driving me crazy... I think I have already disabled the app switcher that comes with Unity, but the "normal" one is still not good. The problem is that it shows the open apps as an endless array of three items that rotate infinitively. Is there a way to just have the super oldschool normal appswitcher Windows used to have? Just show me a list of icons and13:24
mbrochh they stay at their positions when I tab, when I reach the end of the list, the frame can jump to the beginning. After switching, another13:24
bobweaverFirartix,  might need sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm 1st same place in the end13:24
Xtremedamn, iyou are right.. i killed it13:24
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, but thanks for the suggestion I will see if I can squeeze any info out of it13:24
Firartixuuuuuuuh strangely reconfigure says lightdm isn't installed13:24
Firartixeven though it's launched right now13:24
llutzacicula: well, precise is not part of the discussion here (yet) ;)13:24
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: yes, of course you will13:24
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: with debugging script you clearly see where it fails and if you know where it fails you can fix it13:25
bobweaverFirartix,  did you try with gdm in place of lightdm ?13:25
bobweaverFirartix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm13:25
bobweaverFirartix,  does that see it ?13:25
Firartixwell gdm isn't installed at all13:26
aciculallutz: yeah i am aware :)13:26
Xtremeauronandace: it worked after insalling pulseaudio13:26
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, this wine wrapper, it's a script that exists or you are suggesting that I wrap wine itself in a script to redirect stderr?13:26
Firartixbut re-installing it seems to prompt for which dm to use13:26
Firartixshould be good now13:26
bobweaverFirartix,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm   ?13:26
bobweaverFirartix,  \o/13:27
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: /usr/bin/wine == wine wrapper in my terminology as far as you've reported that ldd failed thus it's script ;)13:30
Xtremehow can i kill pulseaudio dameon?13:31
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: so backup this one and start there13:31
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, it's not a script; file reports a 32-bit ELF13:31
srinivasarao3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?13:31
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, it's also strange that bash would try to execute /usr/bin/wine when I type only "wine" if the file wasn't there... I think this is a libs problem :/13:32
nettezzaumanaah, i badly rereaded .. not dynamic executable13:32
bobweaverXtopherus,  ps aux | grep [p]ulseaudo    what is pid ?13:32
neptahello everyone! i would like to know if there are a graphical way to configure my touchpad sensibility13:32
MonkeyDustsrinivasarao  you may need usb-modeswitch13:32
bobweaverdang it Xtreme  ^^13:32
srinivasaraoinitially it used to work fine13:32
srinivasaraorecently it stopped working13:32
srinivasaraoshowing ,modem disconnected ,you are off line at network manager13:33
srinivasaraobut working well with windows13:33
nettezzaumanaLordXe-gnu: well, you have to first ensure yourself, that the wine package itself is not broken and installed, once you accomplish this you can go futher13:33
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, I try remove --purge and install on it, that seemed to go all right, minus some ominous warnings from apt13:34
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, also curious, file reports it as dynamic13:34
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bluegoonIs it better to install the x32 bit version of Ubuntu, rather than the x64 bit?13:35
srinivasarao3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?13:35
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bluegoonsrinivasarao: Try a different USB port?13:35
bobweaverbluegoon,  depends on Ram and cpu IMHO13:35
BlouBloubluegoon: it is better if you have a 32-bits machine13:35
MonkeyDustbluegoon  depends on your hardware, 32 runs on both 32 and 64 bit, but 64 runs on 64bit hardware only13:35
bluegoonBlouBlou: Hi there, I have an i5 processor.13:35
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bobweaverbluegoon,  what is ram ?13:36
bluegoonAre there any performance differences between the 32 and 64 bit variants?13:36
bobweaverbluegoon,  in terminal do a     free -m13:36
bluegoonbobweaver: 4 gigs, do RAM ammounts not only matter with Windows 64/32?13:36
bobweaverbluegoon,  I would go 64 as 12.04 is not multi arch13:37
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852101 seems relevant, going to have a read and see if they have any ideas there13:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 852101 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "32-bit applications do not start on 64" [High,Fix released]13:37
BlouBloubluegoon: 64-bits uses more ram, but it compiles faster13:37
BlouBlouno idea if it has a better perfomance13:37
bluegoonBlouBlou: OK thank you13:37
bobweaverbluegoon,  I am on 64bit right now and love it I have i3 with 4 gigs ram13:38
Timmyis kernel 3.3 available for ubuntu 11.10?13:38
bobweaverTimmy 3.4r3 I think it lastest in mainline13:38
bluegoonbobweaver: Sounds good13:38
bobweaver!mainline | Timmy13:38
auronandaceTimmy: officially no13:38
ubottuTimmy: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds13:38
Timmyis there any applet to show the speed of network connection? something like netspeed in gnome13:38
LordXe-gnunettezzaumana, the workaround at the top appears to have resolved it :D thanks for hanging in there with me ;p also thanks llutz and MrKeuner13:39
bobweaverTimmy apt-cache search bandwidth monitor13:39
bobweaver!info bmon13:40
ubottubmon (source: bmon): portable bandwidth monitor and rate estimator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-3 (oneiric), package size 42 kB, installed size 180 kB13:40
CodesleuthIs there a way to print all UFW rules when it's disabled? All I get is "Status: inactive" with status numbered13:40
Dualityhow to unzip from command line (.zip file)13:40
BlouBlouCodesleuth: no idea, but I'm sure that you can get that list with gufw13:41
FoggalongI'm trying to install the Medibuntu updates but it keeps saying they're not from a trusted source :/13:41
PiciDuality: unzip file.zip13:41
SunTsuDuality: unzip zipfile?13:41
CodesleuthBlouBlou: ubuntu server13:41
Codesleuthisn't gufw for desktop?13:41
Dualitylol i tried gzip and it now is file.zip.gz13:42
Dualityhow do i uncompress .gz ?13:42
LjLDuality: gunzip13:42
BlouBloumhh.. yeah, I thought you were using a desktop enviroment13:42
bobweaverCodesleuth,  do you mess with iptables ?13:42
Duality(sorry bit of a newb here)13:42
viceman011Duality: now you gzipped it, ungzip it by running gzip -d file.zip.gz13:42
mbeierlI have an ISP that hijacks all DNS queries and responds with answers from their own servers.  They also have an SOA record for .local, which means Avahi/network discovery is completely broken for me at home now.  The ISP is not going to fix this situation any time soon.  Does anyone have any clues on how to get around this and make Avahi work again?13:42
Codesleuthbobweaver: I want to print the current rules without enabling it13:42
viceman011Duality: and then unzip file.zip13:43
SunTsuDuality: You might want to read stuff about linux and/or ubuntu basics instead of asking inside a ubuntu support channel, though13:43
viceman011yeah, you'd get faster answer on google :)13:43
Codesleuthbobweaver: I understand I can just look at the iptables but I was just curious to see if there was a way to use the ufw rules list13:43
bluegoonSunTsu: Think the chat support is great for interactive learning :)13:43
Dualityno i now how to do stuff from command line :) been using ubuntu server for quite a while now, just didn't know how to unzip file's :)13:44
Dualitynewb to --> unzipping files13:44
SunTsubluegoon: I don't think so, because it wastes everybody's time13:44
BlouBlouSunTsu: I thought we were volunteering13:44
li0sDoes anyone know why suddenly my folder ~/.local/Trash/Expunged filled up my Disk free space becoming my Distro unable to boot?13:44
Pumpkin-mbeierl: ergh, that sounds like a horrific ISP :/13:45
bobweaverCodesleuth,  have  you looked under /etc/ufw/before/after.rules   ?13:45
srinivasaraohow to install usb mode switch in ubuntu 11.1013:45
BlouBlouSunTsu: so if you think that answering a "noob" question is a waste of time, just don't do it. Well it's my opinion13:45
Codesleuthbobweaver, no, but I guess the answer you're suggesting is "no" :p13:45
mbeierlPumpkin-, yep.  Welcome to living in Ottawa, Canada - where if you are rural, yet in the city limits, you MUST use this horrid ISP called Xplornet.  No alternative available.  And I can't get them to fix their busted DNS13:46
bobweaveryeah /etc/ is usally where confiuration files are but I would also goolge that13:46
SunTsuBlouBlou: docs are there for a reason13:46
bobweaverCodesleuth, ^^13:46
neptai can move my mouse without touching my touchpad, can i reduce the sensibility somehow ?13:46
BlouBlouSunTsu: we're here for a reason ;)13:46
bluegoonSunTsu: Alot of the docs arent really mainstream friendly.13:46
mbeierlnepta, Telekenesis? :)13:47
bobweavernepta,  go under system settings ---> mouse-->touchpad13:47
neptabobweaver: there aren't any option for the sensitivity : (13:47
ziyadbWould it be acceptable to completely forgo the use of a swap partition given large enough RAM?13:48
Oryelmoze ktos pomoze z post fixsem13:48
bobweavernepta, http://postimage.org/image/oj8aejokn/full/13:49
sent!es | twikzer13:49
ubottutwikzer: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:49
Pumpkin-mbeierl: short of tunneling the DNS traffic or something similar to escape the ISP's DNS hijacking, or running your own local caching DNS server (with it configured to return NXDOMAIN for .local) I can't really think of what else you can do13:49
Codesleuthbobweaver: fyi "UFW show listening" shows listening and matching rules - sort of half of what I need ;)13:50
bobweaverCodesleuth,  \0/13:50
mbeierlPumpkin-, I am running dnsmasq, but I can't seem to tell it to return nx for .local.  I read somewhere that as long as an SOA exists, it's broken13:51
neptabobweaver: http://postimage.org/image/l408v0mup/ (what the soft you use for the configuration?)13:53
Dualityi love ubuntu server ^^13:54
bobweavernepta, just stock unity stuff not lxde13:54
SevithI get an error with GCc saying -lcuda is not found. How can I fix this? Im trying to install pyrit/CUDA13:55
Sevithwith an nvida 560M13:55
SevithAlso should ld paths ever be set?13:56
Sevithld library path*13:56
jalal_hey guys14:01
jalal_need help14:01
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Red_BaronHello Everyone14:02
jalal_with update14:02
jalal_i am not able to update via apt-get update14:02
SevithOk? what error does it throw>14:02
Patil_great Hi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard14:02
jalal_it only shows connect to repostriy14:02
jalal_but not connectiong14:02
Sevithsudo apt-get upgrade14:03
jalal_this also not work14:03
compdocjalal_, update only refreshes the server lists. upgrade applies update/upgrades14:03
jalal_apt-get install anysoft14:03
jalal_doest work14:03
compdocyou must do sudo apt-get14:03
jalal_i m root brother14:03
Seviththen you shouldnt be in xchat14:03
Sevithas root14:03
jalal_i mean14:03
FloodBot1Sevith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:03
compdocroot is evil14:03
SevithAnyone know gcc -lcuda cpyrit pyrit cuda nvid 560M plz plz...14:04
jalal_i knows14:04
Patil_greatHi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard14:04
jalal_any solution for that?14:04
compdocwhat happens when you run the command?14:05
compdocwhat errors?14:05
jalal_i will post out put14:05
jalal_it only show connecting14:06
maexwellim in need of help14:06
sent!ask | maexwell14:06
ubottumaexwell: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:06
jalal_my net is fast14:07
jalal_but why i am not able to install via apt-get14:07
compdoccan you ping sites like google?14:07
landonoI'm currently working with a server that is a slave to one of our mysql servers. The replication is about 14 hours behind, and I'm trying to figure out what's bottlenecking it. While the cpu usage is about 7-8%, the server is running two 6 core amd processors, and from what I've read mysql replication is a single threaded process. While I think the bottleneck is the cpu, a co-worker of mine thinks it may be the io on th storage that's killing it.14:07
landonoAnyone have any advice on what tools I should use and how I should run them to figure out which one is causing this issue?14:07
jalal_yes i can ping14:08
KircleWhere do I go to submit a bug about the Linux kernel?14:08
jalal_what is bug kircle?14:08
Patil_greati am trying to cross compile cxp210 driver for arm for pandaboard i am getting /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic/arch/arm/include/asm/irqflags.h:12:5: warning: "__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__" is not defined14:09
intore___hi, hope someone can help me even if this is ubuntu channel. am configuring an ldap server on debian squeeze. i    installed and configured nslcd but i can't see all the user  of   the directory ldap. i created an user on ldap used by  nslcd for   lookups and i put it in the nslcd.conf as binddn  but it doesn't   run. do you have ideas?14:09
Kirclejalal_ Ever since updating to '3.4.0-030400rc2-generic' one out of ten times I go into hibernation it'll freeze. I then have to force shutdown as I'm unable to do anything.14:09
maexwell!ask i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash14:10
ubottumaexwell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:10
llutzintore___: this is #ubuntu only, you want to ask in #debian14:10
martianI'm connected to a 10.04.4LTS VPS hosted that was configured by an ISP. My shell environment doesn't have the fancy ubuntu command autocomplete working. What can I do to enable it?14:11
maexwelldid you see my message i putted !ask in front of it14:11
gvomartian be sure you are running bash14:11
intore___llutz: i know and i did it but nobody answers me! thanks anyway14:11
Pumpkin-martian: try installing "bash-completion"14:11
keberdo you know why clock have 24 hours, 60 minutes and 3600 seconds14:11
martiangvo: I am. Pumpkin- ahh, thanks. Just wasn't sure where to begin looking.14:12
llutzkeber: do you have any ubuntu related question?14:12
wurmt0ngueI accidentally removed the battery charge indicator/mail/user icons from the panel up top, can anyone tell me how to get those back?14:12
KircleWhere do I go to submit a Linux kernel bug?14:13
maexwellHere is my problem.. i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash14:13
tapashi, is there a tool that can extract layers from a photoshop psd file automatically?14:14
icerootmaexwell: bash is the place where you put the terminal commands14:14
gvowurmt0ngue: Right click on the menu bar and add  "Indicator applet"14:14
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icerootKircle: lkml.org14:14
maexwelloh okay. I liked the old fashioned way14:14
icerootKircle: but easier is "ubuntu-bug linux" and our kernel.maintainers will report it upstream if needed14:15
gvo!12.04| maexwell14:15
ubottumaexwell: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+114:15
martianPumpkin-: bash-completion did the trick; thanks!14:15
Kircleiceroot ah thanks I'll try the latter14:15
icerootkjs: but please only when you are using the ubuntu-kernel14:15
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wurmt0nguecan anyone tell me what the name of the applet is in gnome that has battery charge indicator, i need to re add it14:15
icerootkjs: wrong nick14:15
gvowurmt0ngue: I suggested a fix did it not work?14:16
finnguythis probably isn't some regular computer help channel, please forward me elsewhere if you know a better one.. but i've got a new computer and I can't get sounds working well. they crackle A LOT14:17
JohnnyricoMCAre you using Windows or Ubuntu on it?14:17
finnguyUbuntu now14:17
JohnnyricoMCYou're sure everything is plugged in properly?14:18
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finnguyI think so... Sound device is integrated i think? I try to use speakers from the back of computer, a lot  crackling. I try to use headphones from front, same thing.14:19
JohnnyricoMCIf everything is plugged in properly and the problem persists, then I have "good" news: it could be a known problem14:19
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pteague_workanybody know how /var/run/motd is generated?14:22
JohnnyricoMCI believe it's fetched from /etc/motd?14:22
finnguyok. im using 10.04. with the mainboard came some other small live cd operating system, probably linux based , called winki3.. there was crackling too.14:22
finnguynot as much though14:22
finnguyin ubuntu, it crackles like hell14:23
Rienzillapteague_work: I think it's a script that puts uname -a and /etc/motd together14:23
pteague_workRienzilla, i've been trying to figure out why a couple of our boxes keep saying they need to be rebooted when the guy that last updated insists he already rebooted them so i'm thinking there's a bit more than that14:25
dgtlhi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple, i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this14:26
pteague_workaha... i think i figured out the issue... update-motd is not installed14:27
NucleusWhich is the name of the programme that runs the desktop as a 3D cube and also makes the opended windows looks like papers ?14:28
josefigsomeone knows why this is happening: a Console is over everything if I open another window: http://josefigueroa.me/images/overflow-terminal-window.png it happens on unity, I tried KDE and is not happening14:28
auronandaceNucleus: compiz fusion14:28
dgtlcompiz-fusion i guess14:28
NucleusThank you14:29
hemicudahow do i add icons to my desktop?14:29
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PeanutHi folks - where could I find the netboot images of Precise Pangolin Beta 2? I've been looking all over the site.14:29
splnetHow do I download the source for kernel version 3.0.0-17-generic ?14:29
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html14:30
troubledgood day fine folks of #ubuntu :)14:30
troubledI have a question about xfce+thunar+lvm, but I am on an plain ubuntu install, not specifically xubuntu. Would it be better to ask xfce related stuff here or #xubuntu?14:31
auronandacetroubled: either is ine14:31
troubledauronandace: ahh, very well then, ty14:32
nvictorhai all o/14:33
nvictorso why can't i add new links to pg_wrapper?14:33
troubledWell, to summarize, I dist-upgraded from 10.04 all the way up to 11.10 the other day, and then moved from gnome+unity to lightdm->xfce4 session for my login. All is setup nice, except that I find that thunar (which I set in preferred apps) doesn't see my LVM LV's now :(14:33
troubledI looked at the udisk enumeration list, and they are all there, but just thunar doesn't wanna show me them anymore. I did fiddle and get naut to show them for a bit, but even that seems to have stopped now14:34
tbrownI have a ?ion to ask can I Develop linux destro with Visual Studio?14:34
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auronandacetbrown: i sincerely doubt it14:34
tbrownauronandace: What is the Development Code for Ubuntu is it C++ or Just C14:35
auronandacetbrown: i know some bits are python14:36
splnetauronandace: I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 1714:36
dgtlhi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple (white ppl are looking like smurfs), i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this14:36
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auronandacedgtl: check hardware accelleration14:37
Picidgtl: right click on the video to get to your flash preferences and toggle hardware acceleration.14:37
troubledalso while I am here (for any of the UI folks here), a comment on unity: It's nice on its own if I were starting from scratch install and settings. But loosing all my panel sensors and moving my 30+ panel icons into one big mashed up/angled list on the side of my screen, was very painful, thus my move to xfce. perhaps better migration of existing layout would have been better :)14:38
auronandacetroubled: i doubt any unity developers are here, so your comment wouldn't be seen by them14:38
Picitroubled: #ubuntu-unity is their home.14:39
troubledauronandace: you never know. besides, the distro folks can always augment stuff :)14:39
Pici#ubuntu is strictly support.14:39
dgtlauronandace, Pici, thanks, that fixed the problem, but not using hw acceleration is not really a solution to this14:39
troubledPici: *nod*14:39
MonkeyDust!brainstorm| troubled14:39
ubottutroubled: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!14:39
troubledMonkeyDust: oh neat, thanks, ill take a look later14:40
splnetIs this the right area to ask about ubuntu kernel source issues, or is there a better channel?14:40
dgtlit seems like this problem was known to ubuntu, i wonder why they took the new flash package into their package-tree14:40
dgtlokay, i guess after unity, there is not much left to wonder about...14:42
ThadiusBwhat type of graphics card is the least problematic setting up in 10.04 ??14:42
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dgtlubuntu 11.4 - the last usable ubuntu14:43
compdocnot true14:43
LintI cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition14:43
LintI have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:50014:43
dgtlcompdoc, its totally true (at least for me), as a *nix sysadmin, you can be 100% sure that you dont want to work with unity14:44
dgtlthats a total mess14:44
LjLplease keep this about support14:44
tomasm-hi, in ubuntu, is there a way with a toolbar applet, etc that can change my keyboard to use a cyrillic (russian) alphabet layout? i'd like a real easy way to switch alphabets so I can start typing something in russian on a webpage14:44
dgtlLjL, showstopper!14:44
SunTsudgtl: what does using unity have to do with being a system administrator? And why on earth don't you use something else?14:44
meganerdLint: what remote protocol are you using?14:44
Linttomasm-, gnome does it automatically and put the icon to notification area14:45
compdocI use ubuntu desktop on several servers, ranging in versions from 10.04 to 11.10. No problems - its all stable. And Unity is just a bit annoying, but its useable14:45
Lintmeganerd, no remote, it´s fstab mounted partition14:45
LjLtomasm-: type "keyboard layout" in unity, add a Russian layout, and the icon will appear14:45
meganerdcompdoc: why bother with X on a server?14:45
meganerdLint: which fs is it?14:45
tomasm-Lint,  I use classic gnome, not unity14:46
Linttomasm-, the default swith combination may be shift/shift14:46
Lintmeganerd, ext314:46
compdocI like gui desktops - comes from years of Windows use14:46
dgtlSunTsu, i mean, its not only ubuntus fault, i hate gnome-shell aswell, i'm just not able to do my work with unity, thats all14:46
compdocand Mac14:46
meganerdLint: which user is 500?14:46
LjLcan we please move the Unity etc discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?14:46
tomasm-Lint, do you know if there's a keyboard layout tool in gnome classic?14:46
SunTsudgtl: use something else, problem solved, now back to ubuntu support14:46
Linttomasm-, moving keyboard switch to gnome-session-daemon predates unity14:47
auronandacedgtl: you can only work with gnome2 and you call yourself a sysadmin?14:47
dgtlauronandace, theres a difference between knowing how to use something and being productive with it14:47
splnetAny other ideas how to get source for linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic ? I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 1714:48
Lintmeganerd, I don´t remember. my user account which can access the files is 1000, though14:48
LjLstop the bickering about Unity and sysadmins14:48
LjLor move it to #ubuntu-offtopic14:48
dgtlSunTsu, not so easy to find something that fits, okay, end of topic14:48
Linttomasm-, do you have russain keyboard added?14:48
ThadiusBso what graphics cards have people had success with?14:48
troubledis there anyone here perhaps that uses xfce4 in 11.10, and has LVM? if so, I wouldn't mind knowing if it works as expected, mine seems to be broken atm (manual mounting only)14:48
LintThadiusB, for what purpose?14:49
tomasm-Lint, no, I don't know how.... is the keyboard layout tool youre talkin about 'libgnomekbd' or 'gkbd-applet'?14:49
RyoRoninnvidia graphics chipsets14:49
troubledspecifically when using thunar though as file manager, i should add. the problem is that I seem to be missing my LV's from the thunar side panel that normally has the option to mount/unmount them14:49
Lintapplet is dead and gone14:50
tomasm-Lint, ah, ok thanks14:50
meganerdLint: grep 500 /etc/passwd14:50
meganerdLint: of course "sudo chown -R" is your friend.14:50
meganerdLint: sudo chmod is also your friend14:50
genii-aroundI don't think there is usually a user or service with uid of 500 in Ubuntu14:51
Lintmeganerd, it works without chown in other distro14:51
Lintbut ubuntu has no access14:51
idkguyanyone ever installed joomla to a lamp server? how to i add the json support for php?14:51
Lintsadly its fstab in on ext4 filesystem which I cannot browse now14:52
StRI have a question about chmod,  is it possible to set some flags with it, so that everytime a file is created in that folder it has write perms for the group... is that possible? is this the right channel to ask?14:52
meganerdLint: create a group on both distros, manually specify the GUID, then chown to that group14:53
troubledStR: you mean like a umask perhaps?14:53
troubledStR: or do you mean just for specific dirs/files?14:53
meganerdStR: sticky bit, google for unix file permissions14:53
wangoris there any difference between using "/etc/init.d/servicename start" vs "service servicename start" vs "start servicename" ?14:53
StRtroubled, probably but haven't find how14:53
Ca11umI have downloaded a login theme, with the file 'GdmGreeterTheme.desktop'...14:54
Ca11umHow do I install it as my login theme?14:54
LintI share my uid already, shouldn´t it be enough?14:54
idkguyhow do i add json support to a map server? it doesnt seem like in included it by default14:54
meganerdLint: but the files are not owned by that UID14:54
troubledStR: sorry, i missed the second part in this wall-o-text about the write perms for group. you mean like g+ws i think14:54
meganerd500:500 is user:group14:54
Lintmeganerd, then how you will explain the user 1000 can access them?14:54
meganerdLint: chances are your user is part of a group with GID of 500 on the other distro14:55
StRmeganerd, yes.. I found it's possible to set the sicky bit for all new files to be owned by a specific group, but not to force it to be g+w14:55
genii-aroundwangor: /etc/init.d/whatever calls the old sysvinit way, the other two use upstart ( which may or may not then in turn call /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf to run those old ones in /etc/init.d )14:55
gregLidkguy: One of my servers needed libjson-perl ,perhaps that will help.. Just a shot..14:55
Lintmeganerd, ok I will check it out14:55
tomasm-Lint, thanks, it works great now, and I have a keystroke to toggle it.... you know if it's possible to say the layout on the toolbar icon? ie "EN", "RU", etc14:55
wangorgenii-around: thanks14:55
idkguygregL did you install it with apt-get?14:55
gregLidkguy, yes14:56
Linttomasm-, icon is placed into notification area14:56
idkguygregL cool ill try that14:56
Lintit should show the keyboard icon and ¨Rus¨ or  ¨Eng¨ text14:56
tomasm-Lint, yes i see the icon, it just looks like a keyboard rather than say anything on top of the icon as to what layout/language, etc is active. i have to click on it to find out, i was hoping there could be something visible at all times14:56
Lintyou don´t see text?14:57
tomasm-Lint, no, just the icon14:57
tomasm-Lint, it may be because its gnome classic14:58
troubledStR: personally I would suggest looking into umasks if you want newly created files to have certain permissions by default. the default is 0022, but it sounds like you want at least some process to be more like 0002 or something similar14:58
StRtroubled, right, but for a specific folder14:58
troubledStR: well, thats the limitation i suppose. unless you had 1 specific process that only wrote to that dir that you could setup a pam setup environment that set the umask for it14:59
troubledStR: otherwise I suppose you could enter the realm of mandatory access controls (MAC) and allow more liberal DAC (discretionary/file permissions) and restrict things via something like apparmour or selinux. but thats getting a little complicated15:00
WolfDevdoes anyone know how I can get the version of Ubuntu?15:00
Linttomasm-, gnome shell shows the language code like ¨en¨ instead, you could try it15:01
troubledStR: that, or patch the software in question to specifically do what you need15:01
LintWolfDev, /etc/lsb-release file15:01
* troubled ponders about directory monitoring solution15:01
StRtroubled, let me tell you what my problem is, I'm probably stuck in "my" solution.15:01
WolfDevLint, thanks.15:01
compdocWolfDev, or the command:    lsb_release -a15:01
WolfDevlet me try that one too.15:02
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WolfDevpermission denied15:03
compdocI can run lsb_release -a without using sudo15:03
StRtroubled, I have a folder, /var/www with the website to be shown by apache,  the files to that folder is handled by SVN, so when I do svn up, all the files in that folder get in sync with the repository;  but there are times some other files are created by hand in the folder; the issue is that different users can ssh to the server and change the files in that folder15:03
gvocompdoc: what's it do when you try it?15:04
compdocshows me the release15:04
gvoThen I guess you don't need sudo.15:04
thebwtis there a way to have a system automatically run a script (alert/alarm) if it is booted into single user mode?15:04
compdocfor this server - its 11.1015:04
StRtroubled, with chmod g+s I was able to set that all the files in that folder are created under the same group, but now I need the files to be writtable by the same group15:04
compdocmaybe the command is different on other versions15:04
troubledStR: thats what a umask is good for. for example: cd /tmp ; umask ; touch foo ; umask 0002 ; touch bar ; umask 0022 ; ls -l foo bar15:05
gvocompdoc: It was available on 8.0415:05
StRtroubled, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time15:06
troubledStR: well, you have numerous ways to setup the environment for users. like /etc/profile or their own home bashrc files etc15:06
StRtroubled, the goal is for the user not needing to run anything as the user will forget to do that15:06
troubledStR: for example, I see a umask in /etc/profile here. although yours might be in /etc/profile.d/ somewhere too (i tweak my stock setup, so i can't say for sure). so you could for example add a umask to the profile for the whole system and try that15:07
gvotroubled: StR: you can set it by user but not by directory.15:08
troubledgvo: aye, that seems to be the problem specifically here15:08
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troubledi suppose logout script or something to monitor the dir could be better. personally dont like weak umasks. but not so bad if its group only +w i guess15:09
troubledStR: perhaps something using inotify would be better? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=950939  has some recipies that might allow you to fire off a command to fix permissions15:11
StRtroubled, checking, thanks15:11
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troubledStR: if your svn server is local on the machine, post commit hooks could also work for you if you changed your workflow to prevent manual file creating in the www dir and force users through svn (probably good idea in general imho)15:13
troubledanyways, hope all this helps. linux always has a billion ways to do stuff :)15:14
splnetStR: also checkout newgrp : for instance user can do newgrp $OTHERGRP. then all operations will be done with $OTHERGRP permissions15:14
gvostr: you want users to change the files or you are trying to prevent that?15:14
splnet$OTHGRP group permissions15:15
StRgvo, I want to allow all the users in the same group to be able to create/write/delete files in a specific folder, doesn't matter who created it15:15
nullhaxhey i just got a new laptop 3 months ago and im using ubuntu it is reporting bad sectors can that be correct?15:16
splnetStR: newgrp should work15:16
icerootnullhax: yes15:16
gvoStR: OK15:16
enthdegreewhen building your own kernel, how do you specify a custom uname?15:16
WolfDevdoes anyone know how to move the min/max/close to the right top window in version 11.10?15:16
nullhaxdarn gotta send it back in15:16
icerootenthdegree: when you are using the deb-file just edit the changelog15:16
iceroot!controls | WolfDev15:17
ubottuWolfDev: Starting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263315:17
WolfDevthanks ubottu15:17
gvoWolfDev: hes a bot.15:17
enthdegreeiceroot: I'm doing it through some soure I downloaded15:17
troubledbots need love too!15:17
BrixiusWhy is it that Ubuntu makes upgrading to the current LTS release(10.4) such a big pain.15:17
fl1bbl3WolfDev: or you could just install xubuntu :)15:18
enthdegreexubuntu is nice15:18
icerootBrixius: should we guess what your issue is?15:18
compdocseems its best to install new versions from scratch15:18
MonkeyDustBrixius  better wait a few more days if you plan to upgrade15:18
gvoBrixius: It worked fine for me.15:18
icerootenthdegree: i guess #linux is then the correct source15:18
troubledenthdegree: oh hey, I assume you are using xfce. curious, are you using lvm at all with thunar? Im here for a problem where my LV's don't show up, but nobody seems to be speaking up yet :(15:19
obscurant1stMy bluetooth headset is not working. It being shown there and I'm able to connect. But the sound is not coming through it! :/ Can somebody please help me?15:19
StRsplnet, I read the newgrp man and I didn't understood how the new created files would have g+w perms with it15:19
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splnetStR: are all users using the same default group?15:20
enthdegreetroubled: are you booting from LVs or is this an external lv that you want to look at?15:20
Brixiusthis has got to bigest bug in ubuntu, which I don't get, it was possible to upgrade along the way, but someone somewhere made the decision to A) move the repos, there still online, so why make everyone update there system.  B) disable or not include a check to see what the next release is to goto for do-dist-upgrade.15:20
StRsplnet, yes15:21
troubledenthdegree: nah, its boot lvm. my /usr and /var work fine, but since I upgraded to 11.10 and switched to xfce, I dont have the list of lv's in the thunar file browser like I did in gnome (which worked fine in 11.10)15:21
splnetStR: and you want group permissions g+w for the defaul group only?15:21
StRsplnet, doesn't matter, but in the end yes15:22
troubledenthdegree: i can manually mount still just fine, and udisk enumeration shows everything is seen at least. but thunar doesn't show anyhting lvm related at all, and I enabled "enable logical volume management" in the prefs too15:22
enthdegreetroubled: does it not show up even after after it is manually mounted15:23
troubledenthdegree: I should mention though that it seems gnome has control of my desktop itself instead of xfce, so im wondering if naut is hijacking something that is causing the problem15:23
troubleddon't think so, but let me double check15:23
troubledenthdegree: no, one of my volumes is mounted now from lvm and its not in the list (short of me browsing to the /media mount point for it)15:24
splnetStR: if all users have the SAME primary group, then umask will work. If there is a user that has a DIFFERENT primary group, then they will need to use newgrp + umask. Make sense?15:24
enthdegreetroubled: was it ever working through thunar?15:24
enthdegreetroubled: it soundds like you installed xubuntu and then later installed some gnome suite15:24
troubledenthdegree: don't know, I originally install this as a 9.x install, and upgraded over the years. it wasn't until yesterday that I got 11.10 and switched to xfce and noticed it15:25
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obscurant1stsomebody please?15:25
troubledenthdegree: originally this was a stock ubuntu install, with manual apt-get of xfce4 years ago. seems xfce might be missing something or conflicting with gnome somehow, but not sure other than to try remove gnome15:25
StRsplnet, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time they are going to update the content in that folder.. and that's what I don't want as they will forget15:26
enthdegreeright, but that would be a hassle and may create other problems.15:26
troubledya, thats what im worried about15:26
BrixiusSorry, had to vent, luckly it's on vmware, so I can create a snapshot prior to doing the cdupgrade. Just a pet peive of mine when governance of a product makes a stupid decision. IMO all upgrades should be available and functional, at a minimum from previous LTS Through Current LTS version.15:26
yudshello, how much should I spare for swap on a box with 4gig ram?15:26
enthdegreetroubled: does thunar even output anything incriminating when you run it in the terminal15:27
ikoniayuds: up to you15:27
splnetStR: just  add it to /etc/profile15:27
troubledenthdegree: is there any virtual package that you know of that would turn a stock ubuntu into xubuntu? in case im missing some depends or other. and sec, ill look at console output15:27
yudsikonia: can you help a bit more?15:27
enthdegreetroubled: there may be some hook that gnome has tekon over15:27
enthdegreetroubled: not that I am aware of; the best way to get xubuntu is to install xubuntu...15:28
troubledenthdegree: ya, seems so. as for running "thunar", it just returns to console and no stderr output at all15:28
ikoniayuds: sure, you allocate as much swap as you need depending on your use, if your system will use more than 4GB of ram, then allocate swap to allow it to use disk, if your system idles a lot, allocate swap to allow it to swap out processes, if you want to suspect allocate enough swap to dump your whole ram at least15:28
AngrySpamI can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)15:28
troubledenthdegree: well I suppose im due for a nice fresh install soon anyways :) thx for help though15:30
enthdegreetroubled: Have you seen this? I actually had a near-identical issue several years back but I completely forget how I solved it; this may go through it https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13074815:30
AngrySpamso can anybody help me?15:31
robertzaccourHow do I find out what kind of wireless card I have?15:31
enthdegreerobertzaccour: try lspci15:31
gvoAngrySpam: New install or it's been working and broke?15:31
ikoniaAngrySpam: research the "nomodeset" boot option15:32
ZenMasterGood morning gentlement on the West Coast of America with me.15:32
ZenMasterI have a question if anyone is awake?15:32
ikoniaZenMaster: just ask it15:33
robertzaccourenthdegree, Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE?15:33
ZenMasterWithout having to edit each individual host file on my 30 windows machines. Do I have to setup a DNS server here on the local intranet so I can have a name represent my Ubuntu server instead of a Class C address.15:33
ZenMasterOr do I have to setup Bind.15:33
ikoniaZenMaster: bind is a dns server15:34
ZenMasterOr is it something in Samba.15:34
ikoniaZenMaster: you will need a name resolution service either on your linux machine or on your ubuntu machine15:34
enthdegreerobertzaccour: Thhat doesn't look like it. try lspci | grep WLAN15:34
ZenMasterI might add that this is so they can view a corporate intranet website.15:34
ikoniaZenMaster: it doesn't have to be dns, it can be "active directory", DNS, net mios etc.15:34
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ikonianetbios naming15:34
compdocediting the hosts file on even one machine is too much work15:34
ikoniaZenMaster: any name service, I'd suggest Active directory if all your clients are windows15:34
roastedQuestion - I want to report a bug, but it's regarding certain functionality of Fn keys. The ubuntu-bug feature requires me to select an application. How exactly would I report this particular item?15:34
ZenMasterWell I would hate to have to setup another WindowS Machine, or expel resources on the Ubuntu server box to Virtual BOX a windows SBS or something.15:35
ZenMasterMaybe with Net Bios might be the simplest solution.15:35
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:35
ZenMasterThank you ikonia for your time.15:35
robertzaccourenthdegree, it didn't do anything, it just went to the next line no output15:36
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MonkeyDust!bug| roasted15:36
ubotturoasted: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.15:36
ikoniaroasted: most of the laptops with function keys have their own "vendor" application for the function keys, I'd log it to that package if it's an open source package on lanuchpad15:36
troubledenthdegree: tried a few things from there, no luck still. thanks anyways though15:36
ikoniaroasted: if it's a closed source or a kernel patch or something like that, I'd report it to the vendor rather than ubuntu15:36
ikoniaroasted: sony/thinkpad/samsung are common to have their own software15:37
hemicudaDID I JUST FART15:37
harushimoI want to setup samba properly in ubuntu 10.04 LTS15:37
harushimoI'm looking at the doc for the conf file what does security = user?15:37
roastedikonia: hmm... do you have any idea how I would find that package on the laptop? it's a Toshiba... haven't used Toshiba in years15:37
Gnea!samba | harushimo15:37
ubottuharushimo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:38
ikoniaroasted: I "think" toshiba has it's own package, as it's acpi stuff is mental, a quick google should confirm/reject that15:38
Gneaharushimo: also, #samba for more specific questions on the config15:38
bshow can i know my ubuntu version?15:38
MonkeyDustbs  lsb_release -sd15:38
ikoniabs: lsb_release -a15:38
Gneabs: open a terminal, type:  lsb_release -a15:38
roastedikonia: not to sound like an idiot, but what exactly should I be looking for? Toshiba.... what? Toshiba function control acpi package?15:38
harushimothat is what I thought15:38
harushimothank you15:38
ikoniaroasted: "toshiba linux function keys" something like that15:38
ikoniaroasted: "toshiba $model linux function keys"15:39
bradjIs there a markdown format for linking to another bug in launchpad? e.g. [#12345]?15:39
ikoniaroasted: you'll normally find a thread about someone ranting about the external package or the distro package, you can work it out from there15:39
Gneaharushimo: I also suggest installing and using swat15:39
AngrySpamI can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)15:39
ikoniaAngrySpam: I told you what to do15:40
ikoniaAngrySpam: did you do that ?15:40
harushimowhat is swat? the gui interface for samba?15:40
Gneahow does one 'open' Ubuntu?15:40
Gneaharushimo: yeah, it's web-based15:40
harushimowhen did they start this? I thought samba was more done through the terminal15:40
harushimointeresting...thank you15:40
Gneaharushimo: *years* ago15:41
roastedikonia: sounds good. ironically I just found the bug already exists, so no need to pursue it besides adding a "yeah me too" on the report. :P15:41
harushimoreally? I didn't know that15:41
A_Jwhat is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it15:41
MonkeyDust!nomodeset| AngrySpam15:42
ubottuAngrySpam: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:42
pratzhey guys i just bought ipod shuffle 4th generation, but it would not work with ubuntu 10.0415:42
Gneaharushimo: we all learn something new everyday :)15:42
Gneapratz: did you install gtkpod?15:42
pratzI used banshee to sync music, banshee transfered music wihtout any issue but when i start ipod it say "use itunes to syn music"15:43
MonkeyDust!ipod| pratz start here15:43
ubottupratz start here: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod15:43
A_JMonkeyDust: can you see my question15:43
A_Jwhat is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it15:43
pratzGnea: but transfer with banshee should work correct ? though i will try gtkpod15:43
Gneapratz: banshee is not as ipod specific of an app that gtkpod is15:43
AngrySpamthanks for all our help guys! -.-15:43
pratzGnea: ok, give me some time i will install gtkpod and try again15:44
Gneapratz: take all the time you need15:45
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:45
Gneathere, forgot the url lol15:45
A_JGnea: can you assist me for one noob question15:46
A_Jwhat is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it15:46
troulouliou_devHi since recent update, my touchpad is not working after a few seconds  on twi separate laptop, and i have to ue an external mouse . I m on 11.10 , Does anybody have a quick tip to resolve this i do not have tons of time for this issue atm15:46
compdocyou might hope version 12.04 fixes it. Its to be released soon15:47
GneaA_J: well, there are a variety of trackpads, which one are you referring to, exactly?15:48
A_JGnea: laptop trackpads mate,15:48
GneaA_J: yes, that's a bit too generic... I have one, I don't do anything special to make it work...15:49
Gneait "just works"15:49
A_JGnea: actually i'm on lubuntu now and i'm looking for this option https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/mouse-disabletouchpad.html15:50
A_Jit's not there15:50
GneaA_J: what version of ubuntu?15:51
nastascould anyone help? after upgrade to 11.10 i lost my keyboard and mouse. no input devices work. the same with usb input devices15:51
harushimoI installed swat. how do i start the program15:51
A_JGnea: 11.1015:51
GneaA_J: ah, try system->mouse15:52
troubledharushimo: instead swat web based? if so, tried visiting via web browser, or reading the docs? :)15:52
harushimoI'm reading it right now15:52
A_JGnea: using lubuntu.15:52
harushimothank you15:52
hemicudai need help15:52
wylde!help | hemi15:52
GneaA_J: yeah, I don't know lubuntu... all I can guess is that there's a system menu of some sort15:52
ubottuhemi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:52
hemicudaHow do i add Icons to my desktop15:52
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A_JGnea: yea there is. there is no option to enable that, lookin for a cli method15:53
hemicudaI need help15:53
ldiamondHow do I place get CPU/Network/HDD usage in the top panel in Unity?15:53
Gnea!repeat | hemicuda15:53
ubottuhemicuda: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:53
RyoRoninA_J, there is a #lubuntu also maybe they can assist furhter?15:54
pratzGnea: hey dude thanks, worked with gtkpod15:54
GneaA_J: don't know what the cli method would be... maybe #lubuntu knows15:54
Gneapratz: cheers15:54
A_JRyoRonin: will try ty15:54
A_Jty Gnea, may i ask what gui do you use15:55
hemicudaHow do i add icons to my ubuntu desktop15:56
GneaA_J: E1715:56
wyldeldiamond: I haven't found a way yet.15:56
A_JE17 O_O15:56
ldiamondwylde, did anyone tell Canonical Unity is crap?15:56
ubottuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.15:56
wyldeldiamond: I'm sure plenty have. If you try xfce4 you can add those to the panels. With a bit of work you can get xfce looking/feeling like gnome2.15:58
ldiamondwylde, I was under xfce before, I found it lacked too much functionality.15:59
wyldeldiamond: you can still use the gnome tools, like I said thoguh. "With a bit of work"15:59
wylde!nounity | ldiamond16:00
ubottuldiamond: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:00
dewarhi can some one help me with mounting a sata drive with kubuntu?16:00
troulouliou_devubottu, and any plan for cinnamon support ?16:00
ubottutroulouliou_dev: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:00
troulouliou_dev(non bots) and any plan for cinnamon support ?16:01
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:01
ldiamondwylde, Yea I'm currently running a lubuntu install that I modified to run gnome. Now using Gnome Classic and Metacity. However I'm going to upgrade to 12.04 (or change distro if I'm unable to get a proper desktop setup)16:01
ldiamondwylde, so I want to know what can be done before taking time on it16:01
wyldeldiamond: I've made myself use unity for a while, it's starting to not feel so clunky. (I'm on 12.04 now).16:02
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wyldeldiamond: same as the rest you can use whatever DE you choose :)16:03
LordXe-gnuI actually like how Unity hides the chrome by default so there's more usable screen real estate, but maybe that's just me16:03
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LordXe-gnunot that I had any problem with gnome before16:03
ldiamondLordXe-gnu, yea but I don't like how you lose all the information you used to have in the top panel.16:04
wyldeLordXe-gnu: I seriously disliked the globalmenu, so I removed the packages related to it right away. That alone made a big difference for me.16:04
LordXe-gnuwylde, oh, didn't realize you could remove just that bit of it16:04
wyldeLordXe-gnu: yep you can +)16:04
LordXe-gnuldiamond, hm.  I guess I never really looked anyway ;p16:04
ldiamondLordXe-gnu, I also find it quite annoying to have the side bar. My gnome setup is with a single panel and I have plenty screen estate with 2 monitors and 6 virtual desktops16:04
dooma09hi. from command prompt i was able to run "sudo ..." commands but not today. now i'm getting error: "username is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."16:05
wyldeldiamond: you can choose to have the panel on one or all displays.16:06
LordXe-gnu"command prompt" :/16:06
LmAtHi, there.  I'm having trouble with my ssh client.  It doesn't display some window-drawing extended ascii characters properly.16:06
ldiamonddidn't know I was on #windows :p16:06
LmAthttp://www.asciitable.com/ shows some codes.  For instance, number 196 is a vertical table line.  It shows up as little a with an hat (accent ague?). :(16:07
ldiamondLmAt, consider your shell as the issue rather than the SSH client16:07
LordXe-gnudooma09, as your user type "id", do you see a group named "admin"?16:07
ldiamondLmAt, that's Accent Grave16:07
wyldeLmAt: best I can suggest is look into ncurses.16:08
LordXe-gnuI thought that hat was a circumflex16:08
harushimoi got swat working. I want to be access a directory in ubuntu while i'm on mac os x machine16:08
ldiamondLmAt, oh, hat, Accent Circonflexe16:08
harushimohow would I setup the directory in samba16:08
LmAtldiamond: What does my shell have to do with it?16:08
LmAtldiamond: I'm using bash...16:08
ldiamondLmAt, isn't the shell displaying it?16:08
dooma09LordXe-gnu: nope i don't see "admin". how do i add it?16:09
wyldeLmAt: I think you might need an ncurses lib. Only suggestion I can come up with atm.16:09
LordXe-gnudooma09, well... with sudo ;) but more precisely from an account that can sudo... is this a different account than the one you were using before?16:09
LmAtldiamond: um... my ssh client is displaying the program that is displaying those characters (tmux or elinks in this case).16:09
ldiamondLmAt, in bash, run 'local'16:09
ldiamondLmAt, in bash, run 'locale'16:09
LmAtldiamond: okay.  What should I expect?  I see LANG=en_US.UTF-816:10
LmAtand 10 or so others.16:10
dooma09LordXe-gnu: this is same acct as before. I can temporary do "su" and type any commands and then exit16:10
ldiamondLmAt, "my ssh client is displaying", you're referring to x forwarding?16:10
ZenMasterIf I added a user to www-data group would he be able to upload files to /var/www?16:10
LmAtldiamond: I'm using putty.16:10
ldiamondLmAt, in ubuntu?16:10
LmAtldiamond: I'm running Microsoft Windows XP.16:11
ldiamondLmAt, this is #ubuntu16:11
LordXe-gnudooma09, oh, you have a root password. Well that's good enough. As root run "gpasswd -a USER admin" then log your user out / back in and see if it works16:11
qhuyaigood night bro16:11
LmAtldiamond: Where should I look for help with putty for Windows?16:11
LmAtldiamond: I was hoping it would be a $TERM issue or something :(16:11
LmAtldiamond: I guess I should see if putty for linux has the same issue...16:12
ldiamondLmAt, putty has a bunch of settings for that. Look through the setting window16:12
dooma09LordXe-gnu: ok i'll try it and logout and login again16:13
troubledLmAt: http://fixunix.com/linux/2171-charset-putty.html   might help give you some insight16:13
LmAtldiamond: thanks.16:13
LmAttroubled: thanks.  I'll have a look.16:13
ldiamondAnyone wants to play a game of Pioneers?16:14
ActionParsnipldiamond: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic  this is support :)16:15
ja__po polsku16:15
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.16:15
ldiamondActionParsnip, a game of pioneers will make people more joyful and get them to support more ;)16:15
oCeanldiamond: enough, it's offtopic here.16:16
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FloodBot1dekokgri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:19
BrixiusWoot, on 10.4, now, think I'll stay here until 12.4. Less painful then I thought, but still more work then it needed to be.16:21
hemicudaanyone there?16:21
hemicudahow do i add icons to my desktop?16:21
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Guest2375clic droit>creer un lanceur16:22
wylde!fr | Guest237516:23
ubottuGuest2375: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:23
hemicudais Ubottu a bot16:24
A_Jyes hemicuda16:24
A_J!ubottu | hemicuda16:24
ubottuhemicuda: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots16:24
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hemicudaA_J, help me16:25
A_Jhemicuda: ask you question, someone will16:25
conscientiaSuspend/restart problem ?16:25
hemicudahow do i add icons to my desktop16:25
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:26
genii-aroundhemicuda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity16:26
hemicudai don't hvae unity16:26
genii-aroundhemicuda: Which desktop environment then?16:26
hemicudaim new to this16:27
A_Jhemicuda: drag and drop16:27
hemicudai don't work16:27
wyldehemicuda: see the above factoid, we can't see your desktop, what version of ubuntu, or what de you are using. You have to give us details.16:27
hemicudaim using Oneiric16:27
darktorwhat new?16:27
darktorsomeone chek ubuntu 12.04?16:27
hemicudayou want to ssh with me via netcat16:27
A_Jdarktor: he means new to ubuntu16:28
wylde!ot | darktor16:28
ubottudarktor: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:28
Fyodorovnahemicuda, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html16:28
Picidarktor: #ubuntu+1 for discussion/support of 12.0416:28
conscientiaSuspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is part of my Dmesg logs ..16:28
conscientia 0.564666] rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc016:28
conscientia[    0.564697] rtc0: alarms up to one month, y3k, 114 bytes nvram, hpet irqs16:28
conscientia[    0.564817] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.316:28
conscientia[    0.564919] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.15.0-ioctl (2009-04-01) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com16:28
FloodBot1conscientia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:28
conscientia[    0.565007] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.1.0 loaded16:28
genii-aroundhemicuda: "unity" is the default graphical interface of Ubuntu. So if you have stock install of Ubuntu, then you are using Unity as the way to interact with it16:28
wylde!pastebin | conscientia16:28
ubottuconscientia: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:28
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Fyodorovnahemicuda, look at the link I gave you it tells you how to make a desktop launcher.16:29
hemicudayess i see it16:29
hemicudabut ubuntu is stupid16:30
guest123 /join #ubuntu-offtopic16:30
hemicudawhy i have to intsall something just to create an desktop icon16:30
wyldehemicuda: nautilus is the default file manager....16:31
bobweaverhemicuda,  you dont16:31
conscientiaMy Dmesg output : http://pastebin.com/aQ1qv969 . Again I am having suspend resume issue with Ubuntu 10.0416:31
bobweaver<hemicuda> why i have to intsall something just to create an desktop icon16:32
conscientia Suspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is my Dmesg logs . http://pastebin.com/aQ1qv96916:33
hemicudabobweaver, yes you do16:33
darktorhow i can create a special theme for ubuntu?16:33
MonkeyDusthemicuda  because the line has to be drawn somewhere in the decision about the packages included in the live cd, that has to be kept small enough16:33
tbrownhow many people like windows xp in this room16:34
wylde!patience | conscientia16:34
ubottuconscientia: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:34
bobweaverhemicuda,  look under /usr/share/applictions16:34
hemicudame like windows xp16:34
wylde!ot | tbrown16:34
ubottutbrown: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:34
bobweaverther eis your desktop files right there16:34
conscientiaSorry guys... I am running low on sleep so a bit impatient :)16:34
tbrownhemicuda: I cant load windows xp on my notebook pc ubottu: windows support is not helping16:35
bobweaverhemicuda,  plz read http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available16:35
Picitbrown: we can't help you with Windows issues here. This channel is only for Ubuntu support.16:35
wyldetbrown: and what does that have to do with ubuntu support?16:35
hemicudatbrown, its bad installation16:36
hemicudabobweaver, do you want my shell16:37
hemicudabobweaver, so you can help me16:37
HebramHello everyone.  Does 12.04 have a release candidate, or is it going straight from Beta 2 to release?16:37
ActionParsnipHebram: ask in #ubuntu+1 please16:37
tbrownhemicuda: you got that right:) Sorry everyone Just miss windows xp16:37
ActionParsnipHebram: it does say when you join the channel16:37
tsimpsonHebram: it releases in around a week16:38
wyldehemicuda: there's plenty of people here who have tried to help you. Read the links you have been provided with.16:38
bobweaverhemicuda,  you should not allow that16:38
hemicudai did it this morning16:38
HebramActionParsnip, tsimpson:  Thank you.16:38
hemicudai aonly allow to whom i trust16:38
bobweaverhemicuda,  I you do ssh with public keys ?16:39
lyham i in?16:39
hemicudai just use netcat16:39
Boreeaslyh: Nope, you are out.16:39
hemicudalyh, yes16:39
ariel__does anybody here have aptana installed i downloaded java jre but it wont open16:40
lyhkiding me?16:40
wylde!ot | lyh16:40
ubottulyh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:40
lyhwhere are you from16:40
ActionParsnipariel__: does the java page test ok in browser (if you have a desktop OS)16:41
wyldelyh: this channel is for ubuntu support. /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat16:41
justdavehow do you change the default runlevel in precise?16:41
neco198I have this problem with gnome-shell 3.4.1 http://i39.tinypic.com/2heftaa.png16:42
justdavemy box is starting in runlevel 2 after upgrading to precise, so the desktop doesn't come up and so forth16:42
ariel__its a application bot a page16:42
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:43
yudshello, repartitioning my disk for 12.04 beta. I have a 20gig/ 8gig swap and then rest is /home. installer warns me that I need a reserved bios area. I created a 5mb partition before all three partitions. still getting the warning16:43
justdaveok, so that sends me back to the later part of my question then, how do I get it to fire up all the desktop stuff again?16:43
coolroothi i got 2.3 gnome if i want to upgrade to 3.something version of gnome what will happen to my desktop!? i mean my themes and everything?16:43
genii-aroundjustdave: #ubuntu+1 for Precise Pangolin support please16:44
justdavegenii-around: ok, will do16:44
ActionParsnipyuds: never heard of a BIOS area in Ubuntu...16:44
DasEiyuds: is that a gpt table of a disk > 2TB ?16:45
yudsDasEi: no 160gig disk16:45
ActionParsnipneco198: try changing icon spacing of icons16:46
DasEiyuds: so maybe it's just set as one, well oin that you classic mbr and unless encryption no need for a seperate bootpartition16:46
DasEipong, bhava16:47
bobweaverhello bhava  do you have a ubuntu releated question ?16:47
MerwinI'm using the latest Ubuntu 12.04 and the text in the menu bar (top bar) is blurred, any clue ?16:48
ActionParsnipMerwin: ask in #ubuntu+1 please16:48
ActionParsnipMerwin: it does say when you join the channel16:48
MerwinOk, sorry :)16:48
bhavahow run java program in ubuntu 12.0416:49
ActionParsnipbhava: see above16:49
DasEiyuds: you can use gparted doing a new msdostable, that also creates the relevant mbr part16:50
fluxyHello. My printer is detected but not scanner. It is an hp all in one device16:51
fluxycould anyone please help me?16:51
bhavahi milanoa16:51
DasEifluxy: tried sane already and hplip-stuff installed ?16:51
fluxyi have simple scan installed and hplip is installed16:52
fluxyit used to work in the live cd :/16:52
ActionParsnipfluxy: tried xsane?16:52
DasEifluxy: try xsane and alo install libsane-hpaio16:53
max978Hello all16:53
max978I have a vexing printing problem16:53
max978would appreciate any help16:54
ActionParsnipmax978: any details?16:54
max978sure just waiting for takers :)16:54
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:54
ActionParsnipmax978: just ask :)16:54
max978a panasonic KX-MB78116:55
max978it's a networked printer and Ubuntu sees it16:55
max978but no matter what driver choice I select, it does not print16:55
max978and I get no errors16:55
MrokiiHello. I wonder if anybody in here can help with a problem with Flash. It seems that I can't click anything in the "Adobe Flash Player Settings"-window anymore that appears after choosing "settings..." in the context menu. Plus, Flash seems to "block" Opera and also doesn't play continuously anymore in Firefox as well.16:55
MrokiiI mean, choosing the context menu from either Opera or Firefox.16:56
max978Fyi, someone previously suggested somehow accessing the printer through a windows machine already sharing the printer but either a) I haven't done that properly or b) it just doesn't work16:57
DasEimax978: well idk that printer, quick look brought some results, in your situation I'd first try to get it work directly connected to see what drivers are needed and then do the network setup16:57
Ho^OhIs there a way to cascade/tile my windows with a click of a button?16:59
bct_Mrokii, I'm not sure it will solve your problem but there's a firefox extension called "flash-aid" that helps installing flash correctly (idk for opera though)16:59
DasEimax978: as said , unknown to me roo : 1) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125937216:59
DasEi2) http://pc-drivers.de/related/panasonic+kx+mb781+ubuntu+17:00
mischiefi just started a new ec2 instance with oneric ocelot and i have all this getty processes running17:00
mischiefthere's no reason to have getty on a headless ec2 instance17:00
Mrokiibct_: Thanks, I will have a look. Though I doubt it's something Firefox-specific, as Opera seems to be slowed down tremendously as well.17:00
mischiefhow the hell do i stop them17:00
pseudonymousHow come ubuntu has such pretty rendered fonts compared to other linux distributions ? (Fonts seem smoother)17:00
bct_Mrokii, well it actually reinstalls flash so maybe you'll be lucky17:01
DasEimax978: second, will look some further17:01
Mrokiibct_: Okay. I'll definitely have a look. Thanks.17:01
max978I'm kinda losing hope on this one honestly17:01
fluxyDasEi: I have installed xsane, xscanimage etc. my device still not detected17:01
bct_Mrokii, you're welcome ;)17:01
`KorvinAfter a few minutes of flash audio in chrome, my audio goes bonkers17:02
troubledmischief: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services/20347#2034717:03
raoul_ciao a tutti17:03
troubledmischief: i assume you are referring to `service tty1` through ttyN as per /etc/init/tty*.conf17:04
genii-around!it | raoul_17:04
ubotturaoul_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:04
troubledmischief: err, I mean `status tty1` not `service tty1` :)17:04
mischieftroubled: yes. im used to having a /etc/inittab or /etc/ttys :-/17:04
troubledmischief: i know your pain ;)17:04
troubledinittab was my typical first visit on install too17:05
mischiefi'd run bsd if my work didn't require i started an ubuntu instance -_-17:05
`KorvinAny idea why flash 64x sound would glitch out after 3 or 4 minutes of use17:05
avinashhmHi friends , i am trying to configure static ip with dhclient .. i am not a n/w expert, but hope this can be done .. enabled static section in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf .. but seems not working .. on rebooting get diff address .. the config file is in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/938566/ .. could some one pls help17:05
`Korvinsounds digitized17:05
`Korvinonly way to fix it is to restart the browser17:05
`Korvinwhichever browser I'm using17:05
mischief"To disable the job, you need to edit the job file directly to disable it. There are two ways to do this."17:06
mischiefthis is *WORSE*17:06
trismmischief: you do not have to edit the job, use override files17:07
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mischieftrism: got a doc or manpage?17:07
DasEimax978: no, I can't find it on the hcl, but as you saw others had a solution for it, will then on your own risk have to try to compile the driver17:07
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trismmischief: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting17:07
DasEi!compile | max97817:08
ubottumax978: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall17:08
max978never complied anything17:08
mischiefcompiling > ubuntu, just saying17:08
jribhow insightful17:08
DasEimax978: no big deal, unknown stuff I always use a vm or sparesystem for, sometimes that borks up, very sometimes17:09
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DasEimax978: sit back, read the links, and feel free to ask on if unsure17:10
max978ok, thanks for the help17:10
asktrytesthi. after learning that is not worth to get an older distro to have 3d on a legacy card i wonder... why the comunity does not relese a new distro with up-to-date security and noob firendly that is build around legacy video drivers? it puzzles me why such a distro is not out there already. is like linux is pushing people to upgrade hardware like the gaming industry does17:10
DasEiasktrytest: try lubuntu ?17:11
Mrokiibct_: Seems as if that extension *did* install another version of the flashplayer, but it didn't help. Still the same problems with Opera and FX. Thanks anyway.17:11
DasEi!lubuntu | asktrytest17:11
ubottuasktrytest: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.17:11
asktrytestDeasi, as far as i know lubuntu is based on ubuntu 10.04 up or something. 3d on legacy was untill 8.0417:12
DasEiasktrytest: there is a bunch of other possibilities, too17:12
DasEiasktrytest: nope, same core n updates/releases17:12
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asktrytestDaesi i know that legacy ati wont work if you have xorg 7.5 or higher17:13
asktrytestlast ubuntu that supported lower xorg was 8.0417:13
MonkeyDust!tab| asktrytest17:14
ubottuasktrytest: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:14
mischiefok i added those lines to the .override files17:14
mischiefnow how the hell do i actually stop a upstart service17:14
mischiefthe manpage says nothing about this, as usual17:14
asktrytestubottu,  ah, thanks, i got it17:14
ubottuasktrytest: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:14
bct_Mrokii, sorry it didn't help :(17:14
mischief!upstart stop17:14
DasEiasktrytest: won't work is a strong work, the commerical drivers from ati won't install, but radeon is still a good choice for non-high-playgrounds, as you mentiooned above, that works fine17:14
mischief!stop service17:14
Mrokiibct_: Was worth a try, as I have no clue whatsoever what caused it. Other than maybe a bug in the Flashplayer. Which, given its history, is very likely.17:15
troubledmischief: you were 11.04 right?17:15
DasEimischief: sudo servie WHATEVER start/stop ?17:15
asktrytestDasEi,  i'm using open-source right now nut wont give me 3d, fps in games 1/2 as win, even lower17:15
mischieftroubled: oneric ocelot17:16
DasEiasktrytest: which card is it ?17:16
mischiefthis worked: for j in 2 3 4 5 6; do echo "stopping tty${j}"; service "tty${j}" stop ; done17:16
asktrytestDasEi,  ati r x1550 512mb17:16
troubledmischief: if so, I just tested the override file, works fine for tty services. `echo manual >> /etc/init/$servicename.override` as root stops from auto starting fine here17:16
rmxzWhere's the best place to lobby against "indicator-appmenu" being the default.    In addition to being totally broken in "focus-follows mouse",  I notice that on my kinda old graphics card Unity fails to start when I have "indicator-appmenu" installed (making me fall back to Unity 2D on that computer) -- but after "apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" it works fine.    Is there a good place to put in a request that the appmenu **not** be 17:16
DeLorean731In Windows when I right click -> properties on an image, i can get a lot of meta data such as which camera it was taken with etc. What is a tool (command line is fine) that I can use to do this on 11.10?17:18
asktrytestDasEi,  my point is, i'm puzzeled why the community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04 did17:18
MonkeyDustDeLorean731  in terminal: file17:18
`KorvinDeLorean731, that data is called exif data17:18
DasEiasktrytest: be puzzled about ati, there is the worm ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver17:18
DasEiasktrytest: nvidia opened / adapted there code to it, not so ati17:19
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asktrytestDasEi,  i read now, i missed that page, brb17:19
DasEiasktrytest: that i not a gamers card, but radeon increased a lot recently :)17:19
rmxzasktrytest  "community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04"   -- totally agreed here; with an older nvidia card (MX 440)  that worked fine with a deault Ubuntu install win 8.04 - 10.someting;   but the default install with the current release crashes with meaningless error messages (something like ubuntu session can't start).17:20
asktrytestDasEi,  well, i saw the page and is true. after installing new driver my pc went on fallback with vesa..17:20
DasEiasktrytest: I let you read now, but I'd go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV and be fine if keen on graphics17:20
Xtremeguys can someone tell me a nice DVD burning tool17:21
Xtremei got a iso i want to burn17:21
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto17:21
asktrytestDasEi,  well, no point in buying a video for my agp slot, better upgrade all on pciexress17:22
eidi used wine for winrar on ubuntu17:22
rmxz"go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV" - One of the reasons I like linux on the older machines is that they're cheap ($0).      Sad that Ubuntu's installer now requires  modern hardware instead of having the installer detect video chard shortcomings and falling back to the capabilities that ubuntu 8.x had.17:22
DasEiasktrytest: your choice, but me easiest, if you aren't too hard on budget, even fully supported that wouldn't be of extended graphical use17:23
eidbut i don't know where to extract 4 big files so that win rar won't give me the error "the disk is full '17:23
asktrytestDasEi,  hm.. all thing smells like a strategy to sell better pcs, like games: big sys reqs= need to buy new system. waht new linux relese, buy a new pc17:24
eidcan somebody help ?17:24
DasEirmxz: same mind here, but depends on what you want than17:24
DasEieid: put them else where on disk und unpack under linux ?17:25
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free17:25
rmxzDasei: "depends on what you want"    --- to sum up what I want -- I want the Ubuntu installer to be more tolerant of ancient hardware, and not blindly install a UI (Unity 3D with indicator-appmenu) on systems where indicator-appmenu crashes.17:25
datruthHow can I fix Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be  caused by held packages?17:25
asktrytestDasEi,  and rmxz  somehow linux stoped been free when it stopped working on older cards, no matter ati/nvidia.. i'm having a point here or?17:26
eidDasEi where?17:26
DasEiasktrytest: depends on needs then, newer distros have many advantages, and rather time and machines go together, can be nasty, but doesn't work is also a wrong statement17:26
eidmy linux won't see the extracted files17:26
eidi don't know where to extract them17:26
eidi see mycomputer on Wine17:27
DasEiasktrytest: nope, see above, that'S ATI17:27
rmxzasktrytest:  -- IMHO not Linux (it's still very free in both freedom and dollars) -- but it seems Ubunty stopped being $0 when it's asking me to upgrade my otherwise perfectly fine hardware.17:27
eidc drive and z drive17:27
asktrytestrmxz,  good point there17:27
XabsterWhat's the channel for Wine discussion?17:27
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:27
toterdoes anyone know an easy way to convert a web page to an app or a widget? there's a hp-12c emulator on a web page that I would like to convert to an app. For example, the WebKit engine inside a windows displaying a specific section of a website...17:28
asktrytestDasEi,  well, i'm not actually blaming ati. if someone wanted to make a new distro that sues legacy ati i'm sure was possbile to do (i saw on forums that 1 distro can work with legacy ati but takes hours to set up, is not noob firendly at all)17:29
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cypher-neoHi. I asked this question in #ubuntu+1 but no one is answering anything in there. I was wondering if there was a Preview mode on the 64-bit edition of Precise. I remember that for time on 10.10 and 11.04 32-bit users could Try Out the software before installing, but that option wasn't available on the 64-bit edition. Does anyone know if 64-bit Precise has a Preview mode?17:29
eid!info unrar-free17:30
ubottuunrar-free (source: unrar-free): Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1 (oneiric), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB17:30
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toterI can do that on my Mac using a program called Fluid (fluidapp.com)… Is there something similar for ubuntu?17:30
DasEiasktrytest: last on this poll, if new technologys say for cars become available, should they stop because a stereo manufactorer won't open their circuits for it ?17:30
DasEilike no upstart for ati ?17:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:31
Barnabas!ubottu is a sexy animal17:31
asktrytestDasEi,  nicely put there :P still, a hole lot of ppls are stuck with legacy ati17:32
pangolin!ot | Barnabas17:32
ubottuBarnabas: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:32
DasEiasktrytest: nvm, try to get the radeon to work and see what that will improve then, there are many (lucky) ati-users around, see what you get from the tut, ask try again, there will be others using ati17:33
asktrytestDasEi,  thanks for help :)17:34
DasEinp :)17:34
karel_ffHi. I have set chromium as my preferred browser, but xdg-open only opens new windows - it doesn't load the  url. Any ideas?17:36
LmAtHow do I start the unity windowing system on ubuntu?17:37
LmAtIt got turned off.  Is it "sudo service start lightdm"?17:38
DasEiLmAt: sudo service gdm start17:38
Dr_Willis_TestinUnity is one of the desktops you can select from the lightdm/gdm menus17:38
Dr_Willis_Testinits called 'ubuntu' i belive in the gear-menu17:38
LmAtDasEi: sudo service lightdm start17:39
DasEifine then17:39
l1nkg0hello all17:39
LmAtDasEi: thanks :D17:40
LmAtl1nkg0: yo17:40
l1nkg0adakah orang Indonesia disini ?17:41
LmAtl1nkg0: no.17:41
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ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia17:42
LmAtbenq_JCEVIL2010: yo17:42
aantoonhi, will 12.04 alternate support ssd+trim+luks aut of the box or do I have to do some tweaking?17:43
palladin35yhey guys17:43
oCeanaantoon, try #ubuntu+1 channel please17:43
aantoonk, thanks17:43
benq_JCEVIL2010Drgreen good name17:43
oCeanbenq_JCEVIL2010: do you have a support question? Chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic17:44
benq_JCEVIL2010oCean how install wine17:44
oCean!software | benq_JCEVIL201017:45
ubottubenq_JCEVIL2010: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents17:45
palladin35yhey guy how do i load lampp17:45
oCean!lamp | palladin35y17:45
ubottupalladin35y: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)17:45
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appi_uppiHi can someone help me with this... http://pastebin.com/akxMt8jr?17:47
palladin35yin terminal thank you ubottu17:47
rmxzAny recommended Ivy Bridge motherboard for 12.04?   I see a nice comparison table of Z77 motherboards here: http://uk.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/148551-148556-149540-149539-149544-146963-149542-146965-147838-149624-149482-148838-149551-149550-143490-148822-149894-148446-143489-149612  -- and am wondering if there are any specific components to stay away from for a new Ubuntu computer.17:48
LmAtApparently the reason why my Windows Putty client wouldn't display elinks and tmux correctly is because I was using the wrong encoding :(17:48
LmAtBut I still type quickly ^_^17:48
benq_JCEVIL2010i want steel storm free17:48
benq_JCEVIL2010help me17:48
jribbenq_JCEVIL2010: we don't support piracy here.17:49
rmxzPerhaps he hoped Ubuntu could convince the manufacturer to release it under a F/OSS license?  :)17:50
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wyldeI have a "server" machine that serves as an LTSP server, LAMP server(internal network only) and a VM host for a stripped out windows guest that is used for printing to my linux unsupported printer. I'm looking for thoughts on mounting the "print"  directory, are there risks if I use the nbd server already install for the LTSP server?17:51
Escherialthe update manager is always telling me to update certain things that never seem to go through; some of them aren't even selectable17:54
ScoutUkHi. Recently moved to Linux. I don't know how to download magnet links from torrent sites that don't give you the option to download the torrent file. Could anyone point me in the right direction please.17:54
Escherialfor instance, under "Distribution Updates", i have "enterprise search server based on Lucene - common files" and the same thing, but for "Tomcat integration"; i can't even check them to download them, but they're there in the list17:55
wylde!torrent | ScoutUk17:55
ubottuScoutUk: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P17:55
DasEiwylde: I guess the win sys contains no sensitive data, then try to enable windows sharing and just access this from ubuntu (aka networkprinter?)17:55
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ScoutUkThanks wylde17:55
DasEiwylde: for sure that can be found in vm's FAQ17:55
cypher-neoScoutUk, Magnet links work like web links, you just right-click them and click Copy Link. Just make sure the software you use can support magnet links.17:56
angelsjoin/ #ubuntu-beginners17:56
DasEiangels: /' ...17:56
wyldeDasEi: the actual directory is on the ubuntu /home/directory of the user that runs the vm.17:56
cypher-neowylde, You need to add FatRat to the !torrent list on ubottu. I find FatRat to be the best torrent program I've ever used!17:57
angelsDasEi how does it go?17:57
rsumihi i'm trying to update to ubuntu 12.04 from 11.10 but i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/YQnayNab17:57
hechuhi, is there anybody interesting in a M$ office clone (deep compatible with M$) in Ubuntu Linux ? it is not open source, but free. produced by a Chinese company.17:57
wyldeDasEi: I'm just trying to determine if mounting the /home partition on nbd will leave me open to data corruption rpoblems if nbd clients get un-intentionally disconnected.17:57
DasEiwylde: and you want to access this printer from other machines in your local network ? so just need a hole in the vm then, if host also is 'buntu17:57
appi_uppiwhen is ubuntu 12.04 LTS going to release ?17:59
DasEiwylde: can't tell, as I'm in other things right now, but why complicated ? network printing is secured from breachs, so all you need is to acces the printer from the vm-host17:59
angelshow do i join another channel?17:59
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+118:00
DasEiangels: see above /j #ubuntu-beginners18:00
wyldeDasEi: the windows vm has no access beyond the "shared" folder in VirtualBox. I understand what you're saying.  I just don't want to leave myself with problems if I go ahead and use the nbd server. ..I'll do some more searching, (I have no windows machines at all beyond the VM so I have no need for samba)18:01
ubottusilvia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:01
wyldeDasEi: thank you for your input though! :)18:01
DasEiwylde: which is used, vbox ?18:01
wyldeDasEi: yep, and the windows VM is stripped out in a big way. The ONLY thing it does is watch the shared folder and print the files dropped into it. (client machines print directly to pdf and drop the files in the "print" folder)18:03
DasEiwylde: I'm pretty sure that sharing a printer is mentioned in the FAQs of vbox-homepage, else there is #vbox, and printersharing beetween ubumachines.. someone playing with ldap will know that :)18:04
wyldeDasEi: right now I'm handlig that through the web server with a php script for uploading the pdf files.18:04
eldereko_is it possible to install ubuntu on a single file loop device?18:08
DasEieldereko_: you can mount an iso by grub, yes18:09
MonkeyDustwhat's a single file loop device?18:10
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.18:10
eldereko_DasEi: what im trying to do is a full install to a file on a windows partition, similar to wubi but without modifying the bootloader and being able to go through the normal installer18:11
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boutellTrying to use add-apt-repository, I get this: ImportError: /opt/PostgresPlus/9.0SS/psqlODBC/lib/libk5crypto.so.3: symbol krb5int_labeled_open, version krb5support_0_MIT not defined in file libkrb5support.so.0 with link time reference18:11
DasEi!remastersys | eldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then18:12
wyldeMonkeyDust: it's a file that contains an entire filesystem. Any time you mount things like .iso etc. you are mounting a "loop" device.18:12
DasEi!remaster | eldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then18:12
ubottueldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility18:12
boutellohhh you know what that's because we have some bullshit version of postgres on our box. It's not ubuntu's problem. Never mind heh18:12
DasEieldereko_: else use :18:12
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications18:12
hispeed88where can I download the official iso file for kubuntu live cd? i just find the bittorrent file -> http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.10/release/ <- are they ok?18:12
OerHekshispeed88, sure18:13
DasEieldereko_: or a persistant usb-install, but that's not the filethingy you in first hand wanted18:13
eldereko_no i dont want it to be a live cd... essentially i want what wubi does but without modifying the mbr18:13
DasEieldereko_: vm will be closest, then18:14
MonkeyDusteldereko_  there's and-linux18:14
__Grabarz__Hi there! I have a question about Qt library. Does anybody know if there are repository for Qt 4.8? This version was released some time ago but it is not applied to repo.18:14
riexHello. I have just installed mysql on my ubuntu server, but when I am typing "mysql" and trying to connect to the mysql service, i got this error: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" How do i fix that issue?18:14
MonkeyDusteldereko_  this, but it is not supported here http://www.andlinux.org/18:15
__Grabarz__riex, did you try type:18:16
__Grabarz__mysql -u root -p18:16
mcb_riex: use $mysql -p It will ask you for your password.18:16
riex__Grabarz__,: When i am using mysql -u root -p i can connect without problems.18:16
riexbut if i log out again, and type "mysql"18:17
riexi got the same issue again.18:17
DasEiriex: can give you a german link, code is same, it's just to explain about a file setup , want it ?18:17
lykwydchykyn__Grabarz__: I believe the kubuntu ppas have it.  I am running, 4.8 on my machine, and I'm sure that's where I got it.18:17
eldereko_i dont want to run windows at all... but its a work computer so i cant re-partition and blow away windows18:17
riexYes thank you18:17
hispeed88OerHeks hmm I have a 32 bit machine intel so i need: http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso <- for stable version? but there is no 700 MB CD?18:18
ZenMasterI now I asked this earlier. But I need to do name resolution vrs having an ip in a web browser on a local intranet.18:18
ZenMasterNMBD can handle that?18:18
ZenMasterTo access a local corporate intranet website.18:18
__Grabarz__So I will try to search for it.18:18
DasEihttp://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/15031/error-1045-28000.html ,riex18:18
wyldeeldereko_: get yourself a portable usb drive to install to, and setup the bios to boot the usb drive?18:18
MrWobzis there a seperate irc for ubuntuserver  ?18:18
PiciMrWobz: Theres #ubuntu-server as well.18:19
MrWobzPici thanks18:19
DasEiriex: mind mysql-pass is not rootpass, usually one sets it when installing mysql, but easy to re-set18:19
tanerdoganhi there, i just installed fubuntu. is there anyone can tell me how can i install LAMP?18:19
OerHekshispeed88, is usually get the torrents from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ also 699 iso available.18:20
eldereko_wylde: thats an option, but i really wanted the installation contained in a virtual hard disk file on the windows drive... basically not possible?18:20
DasEi!pm | riex18:20
ubotturiex: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.18:20
obscurant1stIs there anyone who could provide some info about connecting a hdmi monitor to my leptop with nvidia+intel cards? I mean with optimus technology.18:21
angelsis there a way to turn off the joined and quit notifications in this room?18:21
Atlantic777angels: what irc client do you use?18:21
K1rk|Workangels: That would be a feature of your IRC client, not of the channel.18:21
wyldeeldereko_: I doubt it, you'd have to install grub somewhere, ..I'm not familiar with wubi, I never used it. Can you choose where to put the bootloader with wubi? If so, do a wubi install and install grub to a usb pendrive and boot from that?18:21
MrWobzHello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays BOTH drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do18:21
wyldeeldereko_: that wouldn't touch the windows bootloader at all that way.18:22
DasEiobscurant1st: the nvidia has hdmi, too ?18:22
angelsAtlantic777 and K1rk|Work - freenode. It is web based and the only one I know. Is there a better one?18:22
K1rk|Workangels: There's a ton of IRC clients... I personally like xchat, konversation, and irssi.18:23
Atlantic777!xchat | angels18:23
ubottuangels: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines18:23
hispeed88OerHeks so i just have to configure my torrent... :(18:23
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Atlantic777angels: see xchat and irssi18:23
rainerboreneI'm using irssi. Weechat is better?18:23
Atlantic777rainerborene: depends on the user. :)18:23
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DasEihighspeed88: if you look around ubuntu.com, there's a bunch of mirrors, torrents, whatever18:23
MrWobzI like quassel18:24
OerHekshispeed88, do you want a direct download kubuntu 11.10 699 mb ?18:24
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DasEitorrent is nice for fault-correction, don't forget to hash :18:24
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows18:24
OerHekshispeed88, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/18:24
hispeed88yes OerHeks :) or ftp doesn't matter if possible otherwise i have to configure tomorrow 2 hours and restart my network ^^18:25
obscurant1stDasEi, how Can I know that? Is there any command? I mean my laptop has only one hdmi port!18:25
MrWobzor if you download the iso via ftp/http and use a download manager like downthemall it has built in md5 checks and much faster than torrent18:25
eldereko_wylde: wubi unfortunately doesnt give the option where to instal grub, it defaults to modify the windows bootloader... i would like to have grub installed on a thumbdrive to boot18:25
rainerboreneAtlantic777: You're right. I will try both.18:25
L3top_Does anyone know what happened to Xorg -scanpci? Or if there is an alternative that produces the proper format for xorg.conf? I do not wish to convert hex to decimal and then format18:25
DasEiobscurant1st: well, possibly you swith in bios then, use the nvidia, get the offical displaymanager, should be easiest18:26
guntbertangels: in webchat click on the icon top left (with the arrow), select options, there you will find "hide...."18:26
DasEiL3top_: you can use /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log for modlines18:26
codeslingerwhen I install a new server with solar flare card (sec driver) the udev persistent rules are missing one of the two ports18:26
L3top_I just need the pci bus.18:27
wyldeeldereko_: aww, that's shame... hmmm, gimme a sec.18:27
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obscurant1stDasEi, there is no option for switching it in bios! :(18:27
codeslingerwhat is the most generic way to fix that? the ethernet port came up as rename218:27
hispeed88OerHeks i'm now downloading :=)18:27
L3top_for dual gpu setups, I must specify the appropriate card, and getting it from lspci I have to split it up, convert it with bc, reformat it and get rid of numbers sometimes... and... I just want exactly what Xorg -scanpci used to do.18:28
codeslingerI know I can hack the 70-persistent-net.rules file but that is very specific18:29
wyldeeldereko_: beyond wubi I can't think of any (easy) way to do what you want. For now the best I can suggest it running ubuntu as a guest OS in vbox, or using the eternal usb drive I suggested.18:29
codeslingerL3top_: so you use the gnu also for display, not just computation?18:29
DasEiobscurant1st: well, ask by telling which model you use on how to install nv-propitarydriver and see what the gui can do for you, sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | pastebinit gives additional clues, I need a break now18:29
L3top_PCI:0:2:0 for instance18:29
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codeslingerdoesn't the nvidia-installer do the xconfig for you?18:29
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eldereko_wylde: ok thanks man... i will have to go with the external usb option18:30
L3top_I do installs with nvidia, ati, intel, via18:30
obscurant1stDasEi, I have an optimus technology laptop and I have installed bumblebee.18:30
L3top_I am simply subverting the integrated if more than one gpu is present18:30
wyldeeldereko_: I'm far from an expert, I'm not it isn't possible, I just don't know how you would go about it. :)18:30
wylde*not saying*18:30
obscurant1stDasEi, I will pastebin it in a few sec18:31
* avatargz 18:31
L3top_we generate our own xorg.conf from scratch18:31
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ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+118:35
obscurant1stThis is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/938689/18:35
tom95I tried installing ubuntu12.04 and 11.10 multiple times on a dual booting machine with windows, but grub never starts. Instead windows always boots directly, no sign of grub. Do you have an idea what could have gone wrong?18:36
L3top_If you installed windows after linux, your MBR was overwritten by windows tom9518:37
tom95L3top_: no, windows was already installed18:37
obscurant1stL3top_, and how do we do that?18:38
Guest88274tom95, try installing Linux and in the partition phase select advanced and indicate the hard drive to install the grub18:38
SnF00I'm planning on running Ubuntu using virtualbox on my laptop that has 8gb of RAM and an i5-2540m, will this be alright or am I gonna have serious performance/battery issues?18:38
tom95Guest88274: I did18:38
bazhangSnF00, why so much ram for a vbox18:38
L3top_I have never encountered that. All I can assume is that grub was written to a non boot partition.18:39
Guest88274SnF00, I install Precise Pangolin in the same procesor but 4Gb RAM, and works like a charm, with graphic effects and everithing18:39
SnF00I don't think I'd dedicate all 8gb to the vbox18:39
tom95L3top_: I heard about those bios problem forbidding grub to boot and I have a graphicall bios... could it be caused by this?18:40
bazhangSnF00, ok, misunderstood you then18:40
bazhangSnF00, that vbox will run very well on such a system18:40
SnF00Okay, great. Thanks for the answers.18:41
L3top_As I said, I have never encountered it... but I tend to avoid dual booting in general... sorry tom9518:41
tom95L3top_: ok, thanks anyway18:41
bazhangSnF00, there is also a channel #vbox for much  more technical questions18:41
tom95L3top_: is there maybe a grub channel?18:41
angelsguntbert ubottu - thanks18:41
bazhangtom95, there is18:42
troubledenthdegree: oh btw, got it working fine after installing xubuntu-desktop, my LVs in thunar that is. thanks again though :)18:42
SnF00Alright, I'll make sure to use that channel when I doubtlessly mess something up18:42
angelsAtlantic777 and K1rk|Work - thanks I will try them after installing Linux to HD18:42
bazhangtom95, you can use alis to search for channel s on freenode by the way: /msg alis list *term* will return a list if they exist18:42
guntbertangels: you're welcome :-) but really consider using a "real" client - that was what ubottu (she is a bot :-)) sent you18:43
bazhangSnF00, asking here is ok too, but they are undoubtedly more knowledgeable on the finer points of virtualbox18:43
angelsguntbert - she listed freenode? that's what I'm on18:44
brun0l3zHey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours18:44
angelsWhy when I go thru the Linux installer, why is an error telling me I need to make a Root?18:44
guntbert!xchat | angels: no I was referring to18:44
ubottuangels: no I was referring to: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines18:44
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MrWobzangels a root partiton is like a c drive for windows18:45
ldiamondIn Oneric, how do I add stuff to the panel in Unity (like CPU usage applet, Memory usage applet, etc)?18:45
brun0l3z Hey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours because the last time we did it it lasted for only 15  minutes18:45
Guest48766mint user here, sorry to bug you guys, but I'm having some trouble with xchat and connecting to the mint server18:45
angelsMrWobz - I used GParted to create GPT table, then 400GB ext4 (out of total 1TB). Is there another step I'm missing?18:46
ldiamondGuest48766, the mint server is useless anyways.18:46
DasEildiamond: lm-sensors and sensores-applet18:46
brun0l3zany body please help18:46
xissburgwhy does sudo mv -f file1 blah/file1 won't work?18:47
Guest48766ldiamond, what do you mean?18:47
Guest48766what's an alternative?18:47
ldiamondDasEi, How do I add the sensor applet in Unity? I know how to do it with gnome panel, but unity is so not user-friendly18:47
ldiamondGuest48766, none that I know of.18:47
MrWobzangels how much ram do you have ? linux used to have 3 partitions a lot... one for storage (docs etc)  one for swap ( like windows pagefile) and one for os18:48
DasEildiamond: secon, I'll try , not using unity either, might take a coup of tea18:48
Guest48766ldiamond, thanks18:48
MrWobzangels if you have plently of ram then just make one root partition... all of your stuff will be stored in /home/username/here18:48
ldiamondDasEi, even in 12.04 w/ gnome-panel, I couldn't figure out how to add it...18:49
ldiamondI always wonder why they took off all these functionalities18:49
angelsMrWobz - i am running 8GB. How do I create a root partition... from GParted or the Installer?18:49
ldiamondangels, the root partition is created during the install18:50
DasEildiamond: right-click on panel, add.. but must have run sensors-detect beorehand and added modules, just some minutes, vm booting up18:50
MrElendigangels: seperate /home is strongly encuraged18:50
codeslingerAfter an installation of ubuntu it has both ports of the onboard nics correctly in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  but the dual port 10G solar flare card has only one of the two ports in it, and so the other one comes up as 'rename2'. I tried to fix it by removing that file and rebooting, and now they are all 4 in there but in the wrong order (onboard0, 10g0, onboard1, 10g1)18:50
DasEipong LUEshi18:50
ldiamondangels, do what MrElendig said.18:50
salmiakAre there a way to make firefox ignore all redirects to a certain web address?  So all other redirects work, but when my stupid zyxelmodem pushes in its (that kills the address I opened) it will just ignore it?18:51
MrElendigangels: less chance of losing all your data if something goes wrong, also much easier to handle reinstalls etc18:51
ldiamondthat allows you to easily reinstall and keep all your home untouched18:51
codeslingeris there a way to predetermine at least the driver with /etc/modprobe.conf like we would in centos so that it comes out as onboard0, onboard1, 10g0, 10g1 being eth0,eth1,eth2 and eth3?18:51
angelsldiamond MrElendig - I am in the Installer. It won't let me go forward. Says missing root. Need to create one from Partition menu... I don't see one18:51
MrElendigsalmiak: try setting your dns to your real dns instead of your router18:51
ldiamondangels, you have to select a partition and mark it as '/'18:51
MrWobzangels make a partition with /18:51
codeslingeror do I have to create script magic to add the missing one in there myself?18:51
DasEildiamond: or simply try what happens if you in gnome and then switch surface to unity18:51
DasEiinstall in gnome**18:52
MrElendigangels: what is your existing layout, and do you have data you want to keep on any of the partitions?18:52
ldiamondDasEi, can't right click on the panels in Unity, doesn't do anything for me18:52
MrWobzHello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays all my drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do..18:52
MrWobzas its still the same :-/18:52
DasEildiamond: log into gnome, I can sow you there, may that integrates in unity, too18:52
ldiamondDasEi, what do you mean?18:53
ClientAlivewhat is ubuntu server like? Does it have a full blown desktop environment or is it cli only?18:53
DasEiMrWobz: try other parameters of hdparm (carefull!) to see things like dma, modes, whatever18:53
ldiamondClientAlive, CLI only18:53
salmiakMrElendig: how do I that? set the dns to something but still have the network settings on dhcp18:53
ldiamondClientAlive, you can install the desktop environment though18:53
angelsMrElendig ldiamond - it is a blank 1TB. I formatted 400GB to ext4, which is sitting in the middle of the drive.  I need to mark the 400GB partition with / from which program?18:54
ldiamondClientAlive, turns it into desktop :s18:54
ClientAliveI could install awesome window manager then eh?18:54
troubledhmm, my kde/qt apps all seem to have microscopic fonts now since upgrading to 11.10. i tried make it to the font config for kde, but it too unreadable to use. removing ~/.kde didn't help either. ideas?18:54
DasEildiamond: switch to classic gnome, install there and see if it occurs in unity, too then18:54
troubledi needs my k3b and friends! :)18:54
ldiamondDasEi, I'll give it a shot18:54
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MrElendigangels: if it is totally blank then I suggests this:18:54
ClientAliveldiamond: do you happen to know if it can install to efi?18:54
ldiamondDasEi, however that would be the most awful user interface....\18:54
salmiaksalmiak: I'm using ubuntu10.04LTS btw18:54
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Guest48766I'm trying to learn bash scripting and i'm trying to run a simple hello world, but I get no display. named the file .sh and ran as executable18:55
MrElendigangels: 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home18:55
ldiamondClientAlive, no idea18:55
ClientAlivethx man18:55
MrElendigangels: asuming you are not going to dualboot anything on that disk18:55
DasEildiamond: I like ubuntu and gdm in debian for me, too18:55
MrWobzI prefur classic gnome over unity... :-/ but then I prefur lxde over all so18:55
MrElendigangels: and use gpt :)18:55
DasEildiamond: lubuntu even18:55
ldiamondGuest48766, does your file start with #!/bin/bash ?18:55
guntbertGuest48766: ask in #bash please18:55
Guest48766ldiamond yeah18:55
ldiamondDasEi, my current install is from xubuntu, I didn't like so installed gnome.18:56
Guest48766guntbert, how do i get there18:56
angelsMrElendig - I can dual boot 2 Linux (or Windows & Linux) at same time? I was told that's not possible18:56
DasEildiamond: same way for xubu as in gnome18:56
guntbertGuest48766: /join #bash18:56
MrElendigangels: you can have a menu to choose which to boot at start18:56
MrElendigangels: you can't really run both at the same time18:56
angelsMrElendig - where am I supposed to put in those items you mentioned?18:57
obiwan_hi, please does anyone have a pci-e usb 3.0 card installed? i'm trying to find out why my pci-e isn't detected. it's weird because the leds of the usb sticks i attach to it flash like when they're being read, but the os doesn't recognize them. tried comparing lspci outputs before and after removing the card, and i get the same output.18:57
MrElendigangels: btw if you are going to install windows on the disk, do that first18:57
Guest48766guntbert, sry not fallowing noob18:57
MrElendigangels: and just leave some unpartitioned space to install ubuntu on18:57
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obiwan_if anyone with a pci-e usb 3.0 card could paste me their lspci that would be of help thanks18:57
Guest48766guntbert, thanks i got it18:57
DasEiobiwan_: try hwinfo, finer grained, maybe gnome-devicemanager18:57
obiwan_kk thanks DasEi18:58
angelsMrElendig - my only concern is a Windows trojan/rootkit crossing over to Linux on the drive... that is not possible is it, even if the Windows drive is mounted?18:58
hispeed88juppiii burning kubuntu :=) on cd18:58
MrElendigangels: a trojan written for windows would not run on gnu/linux18:58
ClientAliveHas anyone heard of running kvm on ubuntu server?18:58
ProfessorBaconhey what happened to the "about ubuntu" application?  i think i'm on the most recent (non-beta) version but i never both committing the version number to memory.  help?18:58
MrElendigClientAlive: yes18:58
DasEiClientAlive: in terms of what ?18:58
ClientAliveit's perfect!!  lol18:59
ldiamondDasEi, if I add in gnome classic it doesn't display in Unity.18:59
ldiamondDasEi, the Unity panel is 100% useless.18:59
angelsMrElendig - so I should use GParted again to add an NFTS partition first?18:59
DasEildiamond: I'm overasked then, but others might know, I ask the goo-fu18:59
MrElendigangels: no18:59
ClientAliveI've had a lot of probs getting a minimal system on my new box. Been 2 mos fiddling around w/ the darn thing. I need a minimal host to run kvm and then run virt guests for everything18:59
trismldiamond: there is indicator-multiload which you can use in unity (and gnome-panel with indicator-applet)19:00
MrElendigangels: if you are going to have windows on the same disk, just run the windows installer first, and just give it 100gb or whatever you need for apps+games19:00
MrElendigangels: leave the rest of the space as unpartitioned19:00
MrWobzClientAlive I run a kvm + 12 guest setup19:00
DasEildiamond: does apt-cache search indicator-sensors gives an output ?19:00
FKIRE02hey there can anyone help me with my usb wireless adapter please? I'm running Backtrack 5, based on Natty I think and my adapter stopped working after putting it on monitor mode.. now I just see that lsusb sees it and rfkill as well. When trying ifconfig or iwconfig, it just blocks. I have the firmware and lsusb seems to be accurate about them. What could be the problem?19:01
guntbert!backtrack | FKIRE0219:01
ubottuFKIRE02: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition19:01
bazhangFKIRE02, ask in backtrack support19:01
ldiamondDasEi, nop19:01
angelsactually i already have Win7 installed on a separate 80GB drive, so I don't think I'll need to put it on this 1TB. I may want to compare Ubuntu, Kubuntu, & Fedora, though19:01
bazhangFKIRE02, /join #backtrack-linux19:01
FKIRE02oh thank you :)19:02
MathuinI tried to join #wine to ask questions about wine.  Got booted immediately since it's invite-only.  Where should I go to ask a question about using Wine?19:02
ldiamondDasEi, I guess I'll wait for 12.04 to be released and try to get it working then.19:02
DasEildiamond: there is something around Hardware Sensors Indicator, ask again for one of the unity fans19:02
PiciMathuin: their channel is #winehq19:02
angelsI actually like Kubuntu better, but I want to be able to get paid support (Ubuntu, Red Hat) as a newbie19:02
DasEiangels: nice, but in first hand no need for it, there are plenty of help-sources19:03
troubledany ideas what package(s) might control or affect kde/qt fonts after upgrade to 11.10?19:03
angelsit is hard explaining some things over chat. I need phone support19:04
angelsfor example, I still can't figure out the partitioning & installing. MrElendig - I am not sure how to create the 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home19:05
DasEiangels:herb costs, phone me, rofl19:05
paxmanangels, ubuntu is not a company to afford that sort of support... be realistic please. this is volunteer support only, people dont get paid19:05
LjLpaxman: err?19:05
Picipaxman: Canonical does offer paid support contracts.19:06
LjLpaxman: Canonical offers paid support for Ubuntu19:06
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DasEiangels: if that is a concern, rather look for paid local edu, cheaper and more effective19:06
angelsHas anyone tried the Canonical support? Do you have to call the UK?19:07
angelsDasEi - you mean community college?19:07
Piciangels: You might have a local Linux User's Group that could provide support.19:07
DasEiangels: and the like, I'm located in germany, we have some kind of lower grade offers here19:07
escottangels, for such basic stuff as partitioning and installing paying canonical is rather silly. im sure they wouldnt refuse the money, but you should find a LUG and talk to them19:08
hispeed88i agree escott19:08
hispeed88i think i can do that without big problems i will see it tomorrow19:08
pndemcjust installing ubuntu?19:09
DasEiPici:  adult education center ,evening classes, but it gets ot19:09
violinapprenangels: you get some books and do it the old fashioned way? works rather well19:09
violinapprenangels: i think http://tldp.org/ was/is an invaluable resource for generations of gnu/linux aficionados19:11
tiox0Hey guys, I am using the UBuntu 12.04 final beta, and I am having difficulty getting a previously-working wireless dongle working. Has been something changed in the final beta, or is the final beta missing some things that enable this stuff to work?19:12
troubledviolinappren: and sunsite.unc.edu! :)19:12
MrElendigangels: take a look at tldp and the ubuntu install guides19:12
Picitiox0 : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.19:12
MisterTdoes anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on an ibook?19:15
pndemcibooks are PPC, are they not?19:16
violinapprenpndemc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation19:16
pndemcI don't think it's possible then19:16
MisterTbut when i boot from the CD i got from the website, it's like it can't find anything.  Let me reboot and type everything it says19:16
violinapprentiox0: pastebin the output of lsusb19:17
violinappren!pastebin | tiox019:17
ubottutiox0: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:17
pndemcyeah, looks like you can only install ubuntu on intel macs19:18
mzcl-mnhello again19:18
MrWobzpndemc there isnt a ppc version of ubuntu. not to my knowledge19:19
mzcl-mnI was trying to see who were the users in this room19:19
MisterTwell i got it @ this URL: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/19:19
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ19:19
ubottuARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.19:19
mzcl-mndoes anyone know how to set that in empathy?19:19
genii-aroundAlso https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads19:20
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ubottuInformation on Ubuntu on SPARC platforms can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc19:21
mzcl-mni've got it now19:21
MisterTlong time ago, i got these linux CDs marked that they were for sparc processors.  Just wondering what that is19:21
mzcl-mnthis must be ackward19:22
mzcl-mnmoving on19:22
mzcl-mndoes anyone here use kate?19:22
i7cwhy does plugging in my webcam make pulseaudio freeze? :-/19:22
mzcl-mnI was at their channel just a second ago and no one could help me19:23
datruthHow can I find what held packages I have, and any other packages that could be broken and remove them so I can upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?19:23
MisterTstdin: error 019:23
MisterTstdin: error 019:23
MisterTstdin: error 019:23
FloodBot1MisterT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:23
MisterTit says that first19:24
tgm4883Trying to setup some UFW firewall rules, I've currently got this http://pastebin.ca/2138401 but will ssh traffic even get to lines 6-16 with line 5 in there?19:24
MisterTthen it says /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found19:24
jack_^what's the ubuntu beta channel?19:24
Picijack_^: #ubuntu+119:24
Sidewindermzcl-mn, It works..19:24
DasEijack_^: #ubuntu+119:24
jack_^thanks Pici19:25
MisterTchroot: cannot execute 'mktemp': input/output error19:25
DasEimzcl-mn: just ask the real question ?19:25
mzcl-mnexcuse-me Sidewinder?19:25
bazhang!enter | MisterT19:25
ubottuMisterT: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:25
mzcl-mni did19:25
MisterTcp: can't stat '/root/var/cache/debconf/config.dat': input/output error19:25
mzcl-mni didn't19:25
MisterTi'm just saying what it's saying19:26
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:26
jack_^ubottu: you suck19:26
jack_^i hate that bot19:26
mzcl-mnI cannot reach the kate's menus from standard ALT+key combination19:26
bazhangMisterT, pastebin it, and ask a complete question all on one line19:26
tgm4883use pastebin for multiple lines19:26
nursedadcane some help me with duel booting ubuntu and win 719:26
mzcl-mndoes anyone else have the same issue?19:26
DasEinursedad: sure, details ?19:27
mzcl-mnor had= :(19:27
tgm4883mzcl-mn, sorry I don't use kate19:27
DasEi!dualboot | nursedad19:27
ubottunursedad: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:27
mzcl-mnno worries tgm488319:27
Sidewindernursedad, If you're new to ubuntu, this is a great site: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index19:27
tgm4883mzcl-mn, have you tried #kubuntu19:27
nursedadill look at both thank youy19:27
mzcl-mntgm4883: not yet19:28
DasEinursedad: if you have a specific question, just ask19:28
mzcl-mnstill I am using kate at ubuntu tgm488319:28
tgm4883mzcl-mn, can you use alt+key in other apps?19:28
mzcl-mnand kwrite seems to be working well tgm488319:28
mzcl-mntgm4883: yes I can19:29
tgm4883mzcl-mn, so if it's just kate that is having the issue, probably not something specific to gnome. You might try #kubuntu as they will more likely be kate users19:29
datruthoh well Ill just do a fresh install ;/19:30
MisterTit's all can't find or can't mount, or can't stat, or input/output error19:30
mzcl-mnmaybe I should purge and reinstall tgm4883 and if that doesn't work out I'll get to #kubuntu too19:30
MisterTwhat does that mean?19:30
tgm4883mzcl-mn, yea could try that too19:30
nursedadvery old information19:31
mzcl-mntgm4883: thanks19:31
mzcl-mnc u19:31
viktor_does anybody know a way to emulate a right mouse-click, with a touchpad and holding a button down?19:31
guntbertMisterT: if you want to show us some output please use a !pastebin19:31
guntbert!pastebin | MisterT19:31
ubottuMisterT: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:31
bazhangMisterT, describe exactly what you are trying to accomplish as well.19:32
MisterTi can't get the output.  It goes too fast for me to type it into a text editor, and i can't take a screenshot19:32
MisterTto install ubuntu on this laptop19:32
bazhang!details | MisterT19:32
ubottuMisterT: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:32
crankharderjust installed lucid/server and it boots up to grub, and past that and then.... the monitor turns off, computer's still running, etc19:32
nursedadwhen you duel boot can you use the existing windows folders to strore data from both ubuntu and windows?19:32
MisterT12.04 is the disk19:33
bazhangMisterT, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support19:33
tgm4883nursedad, kinda yes, kinda no19:33
nursedadtgm4883 van u explain?19:34
tgm4883you can access, read and write to ntfs partitions, but I wouldn't store programs and such on them. I'd just use it for accessing media19:34
tgm4883you won't be able to do any permissions on it either19:34
tgm4883so anyone that can access the partition can see everything19:35
nursedadtgm4883 so i could change the default documents in ubuntu to be the windows my documents19:36
tgm4883nursedad, you mean like a symlink?19:36
violinappren nursedad yes19:36
nursedadtgm4883 no19:37
tgm4883nursedad, then I'm not sure what you mean19:38
nursedadviolinappren do you have a link or something to direct me19:38
violinapprennursedad: just drag the folder to the "favorites" sidebar on left side of file manager, will show up in all file dialogs19:38
nursedadtgm4833 maybe i dont understand simlink19:38
tgm4883nursedad, it sounds like if you go to /home/USER/Documents you want it to show your My Documents folder on the NTFS partition19:39
tgm4883that is easily done with a symlink19:39
nursedadviolinappren ok19:39
tgm4883should be easily done, I don't know if there is any symlink incompatibility with NTFS drives, but I doubt there is19:39
guntberttgm4883: a symlink to a folder on ntfs?19:39
tgm4883guntbert, yea19:40
nursedadtgm4883 yep thats it19:40
guntberttgm4883: I doubt it19:40
tgm4883guntbert, you doubt it would work, or you doubt there is an incompatibility?19:40
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violinapprennursedad: having the folder in a specific place is meaningless, because you can access it easily from anywhere19:40
guntberttgm4883: I doubt it will work19:40
ubuntuhey guy19:41
tgm4883guntbert, why?19:41
ubuntuplz help me19:41
violinapprenno need to stipulate ~/Documents19:41
ubuntui can not update my system19:41
ubuntuapt-get update19:41
guntberttgm4883: but I don't really know - call it a "feeling" :-/19:41
Pici!details | ubuntu19:41
ubottuubuntu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:41
ubuntuconnecting to repositry but process show 0%19:41
nursedadi just want to have one my docs/docs, one pictures flder etc.. for bothe installs folder for19:41
hemicudaHi i need help19:41
violinapprenubuntu: sudo apt-get update19:41
raubvogelOn op-panel, where are the passwords for voicemail defined? Are they the ones in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf?19:42
tgm4883guntbert, violinappren I see no reason it wouldn't work, but let me format my flash drive NTFS and verify19:42
ubuntuapt-get update 0% [Connecting to (] [Connecting to
ubuntuthis is out put19:42
hemicudaubuntu, i need help19:42
tgm4883ubuntu, what is
ubuntuwhat help?19:42
raubvogelubuntu, might want to consider using pastebin.com19:42
DasEi!ask | hemicuda19:42
ubottuhemicuda: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:42
ubuntuthere not eeror19:42
ubuntuonly this19:42
violinapprenubuntu: you may switch the mirror in Software Sources and try again19:42
DasEiubuntu: fw in place ?19:42
ubuntuupdate process not ging furthure19:42
hemicudahow do i change the wallpaper of my log In screen19:42
ubuntufi doesnot working at all19:43
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DasEiubuntu: can you ping google.com ?19:43
tgm4883guntbert, violinappren seems to work fine here19:44
ubuntumy netowrk working fine19:44
ubuntui can surf19:44
FloodBot1ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:44
hemicudaping -e 3 www.google.com19:44
DasEiubuntu: use synaptic to find fastest mirror, try again19:44
guntberttgm4883: thx for testing19:44
ubuntui want to upgrade my system19:44
ubuntubut not able to update19:44
hemicudanslookup to find ip of google19:44
ubuntusynaptic packet manager also not able to19:45
hemicudanslookup www.google.com19:45
vitoitciao atutti19:45
violinapprenubuntu: open software center, then Edit > Software Sources, then choose a different mirror in "Download from:"19:45
tgm4883violinappren, you need to mount the NTFS drive permanently via fstab, then use a symlink such as "ln -s /path/to/ntfs/mydocuments/folder /home/USER/DIRNAME"19:45
wylde!enter | ubuntu19:45
ubottuubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:45
DasEiubuntu: what happens if you let it autoping available mirrors ?19:45
guntberthemicuda: what is the matter?19:45
hemicudahow do i change my log in wallpaper19:45
ubuntuapt-get dist-upgrade E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.19:46
tgm4883violinappren, DIRNAME needs to not exist in your home directory before you do this19:46
DasEiubuntu: so ? do it !19:46
ubuntuit give error19:46
violinapprenubuntu: then run this command as well to fix broken packages19:46
DasEisudo dpkg --configure -a    ?19:46
ubuntusudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...19:46
violinapprentgm4883: that's interesting19:46
ubuntui try to install posgresql19:46
ubuntubut it broken19:46
joannhi guys, I'm having problems with ubuntu, I can't mount anything, says not authorized. Any help with that? the account is administrator19:47
tgm4883joann, what command are you using to mount it?19:47
escottjoann, only root can mount things not in fstab with mount. users in plugdev can mount things with udisks19:47
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresql19:47
joannjust plug and play, cd won't work or usb flash drive19:47
ubuntuok i will try that19:48
escottjoann, see if "groups" lists plugdev19:48
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql *19:48
ubuntusudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresqlE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?19:48
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:48
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DasEi.. and make sure neither sw-center nor synaptic are open while fiddling terminal19:49
joannescott, yes it does and both of the account names are checked.19:49
ubuntufuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...19:49
ubuntunothing open only terminal19:49
ubuntufuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...    here it hold not going futhure19:49
ubuntui try to install posgresql i guess something went wrong in that..i want to remove postgres sql..but i am not able to do19:50
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?19:50
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violinapprenubuntu:  dont interrupt it19:50
ubuntui run this command along with that apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run19:51
joannescott, what do I do from here?19:51
escottjoann, not sure what you mean by checked "groups" is a command line program not a gui, but assuming you are in plugdev, try on the terminal udisks --mount /dev/sdX# where X# is the correct disk19:51
ubuntuany way if i can recover my whole system form live cd?19:51
tgm4883ubuntu, is your system encrypted?19:52
ubuntuno its not encrypted brother19:52
DasEiubuntu:nah, ease down, there are several more possibilities19:52
aaa801Ok so my system is randomly rebooting, Any help ?19:52
joannescott, I'm in users and groups. I don't know anything about terminal.19:52
ubuntuaa801>>it problem in ur system19:52
DasEiaaa801: check /var/log/syslog  and dmesg>dmesgt.txt19:52
tgm4883then if you boot a livecd you should be able to see everything on the system19:53
ubuntuso what i do brothers? i can not format my pc coz i have 250 gb data19:53
aaa801seems to be alot of spam from eth0 on dmesg and the syslog19:53
DasEiubuntu:again, calm downa little and try the steps given19:54
tgm4883ubuntu, did you put that data on a separate partition?19:54
ubuntuwhich one? dasei?19:54
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?19:54
hypn0ubuntu, how can you tell everyone here is male :-/19:54
aaa801i had previsusly set up my ipmi card on the same subnet as the network the pc is connected to19:54
aaa801could that be causing issues?19:54
ubuntusudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?19:54
tgm4883hypn0, he uses the new Gender Over IP Protocol19:55
aaa801sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock19:55
escott!aptlock | ubuntu19:55
ubottuubuntu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:55
austin182what is the best software to put on a usb flashdrive to boot a linux distro?19:55
aaa801DasEi: ?19:55
ubuntuudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...19:55
DasEiubuntu: N, but let it go19:56
bazhangaustin182, try unetbootin or the others, you decide which is best19:56
aaa801DasEi: Found the error, dma status error, resetting chip19:56
aaa801over and over19:56
ubuntuit dont go furthure..even whole night it will be same19:56
austin182thanks for the help19:56
DasEiubuntu:again, calm down a little and try the steps given19:57
DasEiubuntu:repeat last command, choose N19:57
ubuntui am tryin step seven sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...19:57
ubuntusudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...19:58
aantoonregarding 12.04 I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to proceed as there seems to be differing advice. I see it mentioned online that I should mount with DISCARD. But an article from OpenSUSE says DISCARD is not good to use.19:59
aantoon http://opensuse.14.n6.nabble.com/SSD-detection-when-creating-first-time-fstab-td3313048.html19:59
aantoon Here are my questions19:59
aantoon 1.) are there any issues I should be aware of if using ubuntu on an SSD? Is ubuntu primarily intended to be used on HDD and not recommended for SSD?19:59
aantoon 2.) do you recommend TRIM be used for SSD with ubuntu?19:59
FloodBot1aantoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:59
aantoon 3.) If you do recommend TRIM be used, how should TRIM be setup? Automatic wiping, or manual wiping? FITRIM, FSTRIM, or DISCARD?19:59
aaa801*soo screwed atm*19:59
DasEiaantoon: ssd is generally well supported, can play with trim later20:00
bazhangaantoon, #ubuntu+1 for 12.0420:00
DasEiaaa801: man hdparm20:00
aaa801its not my hd20:00
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aaa801its a bmc card thats causing hte issues i believe20:00
DasEiaaa801: remove it, retry ?20:01
ubuntuok daesi20:01
ubuntui gues nothing ca do with that20:01
aaa801dasei, i kinda need it for remove monitering and offline access20:01
DasEiubuntu:does it just sit there ?20:01
ubuntunothing going furthure20:02
* aaa801 delves into the ipmi configuration menus to see wtf is uip20:02
DasEiubuntu: ctrl+c20:02
DasEiubuntu: repeat command choose N this time20:02
ubuntusudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...20:02
MisterTfigure it out20:02
ubuntunow y/n option not coming20:02
DasEiubuntu: better sign20:02
ubuntunow it doesn't asking for y/n     sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...20:03
DasEigot it20:03
joseph_hi guys, something is seriously wrong with my mom's ubuntu computer. I can't mount any drives, or unlock anything (the password prompt won't show up)20:04
joseph_maybe a new virus? she is good at getting them20:05
ubuntuapt-get remove postgres90 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   postgres90 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 17 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory20:05
Pici!pastebin | ubuntu20:05
ubottuubuntu: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:05
bazhangubuntu you have a nother instance of apt running then or synaptic / software centre is being used20:06
bazhangubuntu, let them finish then try again20:06
brontosaurusrexis it possible to cross-compile things for win/os-x on some ubuntu box?20:06
ubuntui close evrything20:06
DasEiubuntu:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a20:06
ubuntuthen again issue command still its same20:06
bazhangubuntu, something is still running20:06
ubuntunot nothing running20:07
donavan01brontosaurusrex what are you trying to do exactly20:07
ubuntuok now command succesfully works20:07
bazhangubuntu, then you did not use sudo20:07
DasEiubuntu: ;)20:07
ubuntunow commad succefully20:07
ubuntuok now what i should do?20:08
donavan01anyone use dropbox and have issues with it not syncing in ubuntu20:08
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade20:08
ubuntu0% [Connecting to (] [Connecting to
winterpkDoes anyone know the best way to set up sftp for a user but restrict them from full shell access so they are jailed to a home directory?20:08
ubuntunot going furthure20:08
ratcheerbrontosaurusrex: Depends on what you're making. Most things compiled on Mono will run on Windows.20:08
brontosaurusrexdonavan01: compile https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/source.html with all the whistles20:08
DasEiubuntu: give irt a second20:09
brontosaurusrexdonavan01: cli version only20:09
ubuntuwhat do you mean brother?20:09
DasEiubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade20:09
ubuntuthis not going furthure . my problem is that my pc not connecting to repositry20:09
bazhangubuntu, then change mirrors20:09
aaa801now terminal isnt appearing in search bar20:10
ubuntuhow to change mirror?20:10
DasEiubuntu: ctrl+c, sudo synaptic20:10
* aaa801 throws server out of window20:10
bazhangubuntu, open up synaptic package manager and change there20:10
* DasEi is happy to have found some free stuff20:10
ubuntui am in synaptic where is option for change mirrors?20:11
DasEiubuntu: software sources the balcon on the right midle, a rolldown menu20:11
DasEiother server > find best server20:12
ubuntui went to setting then i replace main server to my country name20:12
ubuntunow saying testing download server20:12
DasEijust ping them, will take 10 min, to find best one20:12
aaa801mhm that seems to of clear3ed it up20:12
ubuntuit says not suitable servers was found :(20:13
donavan01brontosaurusrex are you trying to compile the program to but used one 3 different OS's  windows,mac,linux ... if so that would greatly depend on the source code.  if the source code is written in such a was so to be portable (as in able to be ported)  the your shouldnt have much issue but you may have to do the actual build inside of there respective environments unless you find an emulator... if this isnt what your talking ab20:13
DasEiubuntu: seems there is something wierd with your network then20:13
ubuntuno brother i have 2 netconnection..usb broadband and also wifi20:13
winterpkDoes anyone konw how to jail an sftp user?20:14
ubuntui tested form both network ..same problem it not have issue with port block etc20:14
DasEiubuntu: how do you connect ?for distupgrades always cabled20:14
brontosaurusrexdonavan01: right, so my best bet is probably a lion running virtual lion , so i can nuke that one ?20:14
DasEijailtool and rssh are your friends20:16
DasEi!chroot | winterpk20:16
ubottuwinterpk: A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot20:16
donavan01brontosaurusrex why would you virtualize the OS your already running (unless your trying to build from a sterile envornment there is no sense in that)?20:16
DasEijailtool and rssh are your friends, winterpk20:16
winterpkok, thanks guys.  I will look into both tools.20:17
DasEiubuntu: well apt is fine again,  there is an issue with your network20:17
hemicudaubuntu sucks20:18
bazhanghemicuda, wrong channel then20:18
DasEiubuntu: could you pastebin /etc/resolv.conf   ,  /etc/apt/soiurces.list20:19
Trollerhemicuda why are you here lol20:19
Trolleralso what distro you use?20:19
hemicudai heard there is a new linux virus20:19
bazhang!ot | hemicuda20:19
ubottuhemicuda: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:19
DasEiubuntu left, lil' less patience20:21
okanbasoglui know this is ubuntu channel but anyone used dnspython20:23
okanbasogluim having a problem with it20:23
okanbasogluits not reading my /etc/hosts file20:23
lukebrannonI'm trying to rsync files between ubuntu 10.04 hosts using rsync 2.6.9 and I'm getting the "protocol version mismatch -- is your shell clean?" error.  googling the error, example after example says that if I run ssh host /bin/true > out.dat and come up w/ a zero length file I should be fine, but I'm getting just that and the error persists.  is there anything else to try?20:23
Piciokanbasoglu: #python would be a more appropriate place to ask./20:23
okanbasogluPici: i tried there but no luck20:24
troubledlukebrannon: curious, did you try using `-e ssh` for rsync instead of using rsync protocol?20:25
troubledotherwise, I haven't had to deal with mismatch myself, sorry20:25
Piciokanbasoglu: I'm there, and you aren't. You need to be registered and identified to join.20:25
okanbasogluPici: I am registered thanks for the tip20:27
finnguyI've been wondering this, finally will ask: why is my mouse always unstable in movement in ubuntu? is it because it's a really cheap logitech?20:27
lukebrannontroubled: this is the command I'm using: sudo -E rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target20:27
Piciokanbasoglu: oh, you aren't identified now, :)20:27
violinapprenfinnguy: try adjusting acceleration or sensitivity, i use cheap mouses all the time20:27
troubledlukebrannon: hmm -E? always thought it was -e. sec whilst I open a terminal :)20:28
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troubledoh nm, that was for sudo not rsync, my bad20:28
lukebrannontroubled: sorry should have left the -E part that's for sudo20:28
tbrownAm making a youtube video about zenwalk can anyone tell me some infomation on it20:28
troubledya gotcha. trying to mentally digest your cli-fu :)20:28
violinappren!ot | tbrown20:29
ubottutbrown: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please u