[00:00] <shum6> Enter text here.../msg
[00:00] <xerxes_> does anyone know an solution for Grooveshark ?
[00:00] <ariel__> yep its on opt i followed a guide online but it didnt really help
[00:00] <cyrex> xerxes_, What seems to be the problem with Flash in the beginning?
[00:00] <xerxes_> cyrex: well no matter what i did, the adobe-flashplugin AND the flashplugin installer / flashplugin-nonfree didnt work
[00:01] <cyrex> ariel__, I normally put it on my desktop ^^, anyway go inside the aptana folder you decompressed, find the binary, right click on it and make sure it has the "executable" flag activated
[00:01] <xerxes_> cyrex: it's a really old machine i dunno why it didnt work it didnt even load and i can confirm that i saw it was there in both firefox & opera while typing about:plugins
[00:01] <xerxes_> but the youtube part is solved i just need a solution for grooveshark
[00:02] <xerxes_> some ppl have some threads about a web application galled gsharkdown but that didnt work neither i search an artist and nothing happens probably grooveshark has changed their API
[00:02] <cyrex> xerxes_, Just to check, did you try chrome. If it worked with Chrome you might want to reinstall flash. For the Grooveshark, what is the problem with it?
[00:02] <xerxes_> cyrex: i tried both with chrome firefox + opera
[00:02] <xerxes_> cyrex: youtube part is solved with gnash
[00:02] <Guest65389> does anyone know how to install mindguard
[00:02] <xerxes_> so we can leave it like that.
[00:03] <xerxes_> cyrex: the problem is when i visit grooveshark.com i just get an notification in the middle of my browser telling me bla bla flash does not work reload the site
[00:03] <hoshi411> after installing the onboard keyboard from source, i keep getting the error that it needs a gsettings schema
[00:03] <hoshi411> google really is giving me no help witht hat
[00:03] <hoshi411> so i came here
[00:04] <hoshi411> i checked and i do have a package installed on my system with the name gsettings-schemas... but for some reason i need this schema thing for the onboard keyboard specifically
[00:06] <cyrex> xerxes_, Sorry give me a second am on the ubuntu meeting
[00:07] <ariel__> cyrex i checked it is executiveable
[00:07] <ariel__> i dont know whats the problem
[00:08] <zykotick9> xerxes_: i highly doubt gnash will work with groveshark, and you can only have one flash implementation at a time...
[00:08] <xerxes_> zykotick9: ok then what is your advice ?
[00:09] <zykotick9> xerxes_: don't use groveshark.  try proprietary flash...
[00:09] <xerxes_> zykotick9: i tried that but still i cant get it to work mate
[00:09] <xerxes_> i tried both flashplugin-installer and -nonfree
[00:09] <xerxes_> + i tried ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:09] <xerxes_> still no go..
[00:09] <xerxes_> but with gnash it worked
[00:10] <zykotick9> xerxes_: long time ago it worked for me - i've stopped using non-free web services/programs since that time though...  good luck man.
[00:10] <cryptopsy> i've started an ubuntu channel for our group of people, please come check us out at ##ubuntu-niggers , thanks!
[00:11] <BarkingFish> !ops request to remove cryptopsy - racist comments in #ubuntu
[00:11] <BarkingFish> I hate that ops thing - I can never get it to work properly
[00:12] <Jordan_U> BarkingFish: !ops | message to the ops goes here
[00:12] <zykotick9> BarkingFish: use "!ops | NICKINQUESTION reason after" ;)
[00:12] <xerxes_> zykotick9: isnt there like any API or any workaround to play Grooveshark in rhytmbox ?
[00:12] <xerxes_> or something like that
[00:12] <zykotick9> xerxes_: sorry i wouldn't know...
[00:12] <gtmanfred> I am trying to make a usb key with many different distos, right now, I am stuck on ubuntu 11.10, my goal is to set it up to use syslinux so that I can use extlinux --install and chainload to it from one partition which contains grub legacy.  Does anyone have an idea on how to do this? right now I have changed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg, and done the extlinux --install which worked on openSUSE, but on ubuntu
[00:12] <gtmanfred> It starts to load the screen like it normally would but then throws me into the intramfs shell, saying it can't find something
[00:12] <BarkingFish> ok. I'll remember that. It confuses me cause it doesn't work the same way other Ubottu fired commands do
[00:12] <gtmanfred> hold on and I will get teh exact message
[00:13] <BarkingFish> others you can use !whatever-goes-here  follow it with something else, and it's gone, like !info whatever version
[00:15] <CJKay> Thought I'd let any Canonical devs know about this video. Good job on 12.04 :P www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp2Sqe-Oa5g
[00:15] <Jordan_U> BarkingFish: All of the factoid commands are the same, the idea being that you use "!factoid | Nick_of_person_you_want_to_send_factoid_to" ("piping" the factoid to the person you want it to go to). !ops is just a factoid command which happens to contain a list of all the ops nicks to get their attention.
[00:16] <tbrown2012> I need help I cant open a terminal when it trys to open it says that I need to search for a program or a file please does anyone know about this
[00:16] <D4nt3Alighieri> question
[00:16] <tbrown2012> I need help I cant open a terminal when it trys to open it says that I need to search for a program or a file please does anyone know about this
[00:16] <BarkingFish> Jordan_U, Ah. Ok - I didn't realise you'd have to pipe the ops command to the ops, I thought that was a straight firealarm to you :)
[00:17] <D4nt3Alighieri> I need to install Ubuntu on my laptop. Only problem is it can't drive the screen without proprietary drivers enabled. Is there any way I can have that enabled in the bootcd so I don't have to hook my laptop up to another monitor just to install Ubuntu?
[00:18] <steveoliver> I think I've messed up my settings -- when I log in I get an old-school looking UI -- not the sexy black skin on Ubuntu 11.10 -- Guest accounts look great, but my one account "Steve" got messed up...  any ideas?
[00:18] <apwbdjp> D4nt3Alighieri, can't use the screen at all? Tried with an alternate CD? (text version)
[00:19] <Jordan_U> BarkingFish: It is, you're not "piping" it to us, as all our nicks are included in the factoid already, the !ops factoid also has a secondary effect of sending whatever comes after the '|' to #ubuntu-ops. If in doubt, just use "!ops" and we'll figure it out.
[00:19] <tbrown2012> I need some help please I cant open a terminal application I dont know if this is the right one is says terminal emulator and when I try to launch it or something it says " Please choose your preferred termnial emulator now and click ok to proceed.":(
[00:19] <D4nt3Alighieri> log out and change the gui via the gear icon next to your username
[00:20] <D4nt3Alighieri> note to self: never try to boot 2 virtual machines at the same time >.>
[00:21] <gtmanfred> oh... no error message just drops me into initramfs
[00:21] <steveoliver> D4nt3Alighieri "log out and change the gui via the gear icon next to your username" didn't work -- tried it
[00:21] <steveoliver> ...I thought that would do it, but no...
[00:22] <steveoliver> yeah, so now all my scroll bars, etc, are all old school
[00:22] <tbrown2012> Can some one here me type 123
[00:22] <steveoliver> 123
[00:22] <alexander> help
[00:22] <vamadir> if i use dd with win7.iso. Can i create live usb with win7??
[00:22] <Guest4890> my computer turns off randomly
[00:22] <tbrown2012> steveoliver: Okay I deed not know because no one was answering me can you help me please
[00:22] <L3top> typically Guest4890 that is overheating.
[00:23] <steveoliver> tbrown2012: probably not :/
[00:23] <gtmanfred> tbrown2012: what is the exact error message?
[00:23] <Guest4890> nope
[00:23] <Guest4890> I check my temps they are normal
[00:23] <Guest4890> it just does it randomly
[00:23] <Guest4890> with no warning
[00:24] <Guest4890> temps are normale
[00:24] <tbrown2012> gtmanfred: Okay when I try to run the terminal emulator it says faild to execute default terminal emullator
[00:24] <L3top> Is it a laptop or a desktop?
[00:24] <Guest4890> laptop
[00:24] <steveoliver> so what do you call the "theme" in Ubuntu ? theme??
[00:24] <steveoliver> UI ?
[00:25] <Guest4890> i contacted dell they said its drivers are they righ?
[00:25] <usr13> steveoliver: Desktop Enviornment?
[00:25] <tbrown2012> is there a keyboard shortcut for a terminal or something
[00:25] <L3top> what video chipset is it Guest4890?
[00:25] <usr13> tbrown2012: There will be if you create one.
[00:25] <steveoliver> usr13: yeah?  thanks
[00:25] <Guest4890> its integrated
[00:25] <Guest4890> intel hd3000
[00:26] <tbrown2012> usr13: How can you do that?
[00:26] <usr13> tbrown2012: (I use F12)
[00:26] <L3top> what version of ubuntu?
[00:26] <bastidrazor> tbrown2012: ctrl alt t  ..is the default
[00:26] <Guest4890> 11.10
[00:26] <gtmanfred> tbrown2012: should bt ctrl+alt+t if i remember from when i used ubuntu
[00:26] <blackr00tsys> hello sir
[00:26] <gosh_> jrib: you there?
[00:26] <blackr00tsys> i want ask about ubuntu sir
[00:26] <usr13> I dono tbrown2012, depends on which Desktop Enviornment you use.
[00:27] <blackr00tsys> gnome sir
[00:27] <L3top> I have not encountered those sort of issues Guest4890. What I would suggest is looking through /var/log/dmesg and see what was happening when it crashed.
[00:27] <Guest4890> ok
[00:27] <L3top> That might reveal where to start looking
[00:28] <L3top> or immediately after a crash might be easier
[00:28] <L3top> dmesg log is big
[00:28] <gtmanfred> tbrown2012: might see if gnome-terminal or xterm are installed?
[00:29] <L3top> ask blackr00tsys.
[00:29] <gtmanfred> anyway, anyone had experience changing the livecd to use syslinux instead of grub2?
[00:30] <tbrown2012> gtmanfred: It was not installed so I installed it and no luck what happen to it I installed winehq and I update xubuntu and nothing went wrong so I dont know am so confused
[00:30] <usr13> tbrown2012: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[00:30] <L3top> you can try unetbootin gtmanfred. I believe it uses syslinux... but dont quote me
[00:31] <Tim_Hortons> Is getting a ubuntu cloak fairly hard or easy?
[00:31] <gtmanfred> L3top: yeah, it does, but it also overwrites mbr
[00:31] <L3top> yes it does
[00:31] <L3top> but should be usable
[00:31] <L3top> what specifically are you trying to do
[00:31] <bastidrazor> !cloak | Tim_Hortons
[00:33] <gtmanfred> which is what I am trying to avoid, I already have fedora16, fedora17, archiso dual, openSUSE, and supergrubdisk(which is booted from mbr to chainload the rest)
[00:33] <gtmanfred> i am trying to get it formated so that I can use syslinux to load ubuntu
[00:33] <gtmanfred> all of these are the live cds
[00:34] <Jordan_U> gtmanfred: It's easier to loop boot the Ubuntu iso file via grub2, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg.
[00:34] <L3top> If I understand you correctly, I think remastersys is what you are after gtmanfred
[00:34] <gtmanfred> ok, will try both thank you
[00:34] <ariel__> can anybody tell me where to install java 1.5 i cant seem to find the package
[00:35] <usr13> ariel__: Use the synaptic
[00:35] <apwbdjp> ariel__, type java and bash should give you some suggestions of candidates packages
[00:36] <Logan_> ariel__: Why would you want Java 1.5?
[00:37] <ariel__> aptana i cant seem to get it working
[00:37] <ariel__> i recently deleted it from opt
[00:39] <Logan_> ariel__: Do you have any form of Java installed?
[00:40] <ariel__> just jdk why
[00:40] <Logan_> If not, then I'd recommend doing: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[00:43] <gosh_> jrib: hello?
[00:47] <tbrown2012> I need some help I right click terminal and I edit the launcher it says Name: Terminal Emulator Command: Use the command Line Command: host working directory: see I deed not miss with anything in the edit launcher when I got done installing winehq it deed not work after that the "terminal" Please help
[00:49] <tbrown2012> Please someone help me
[00:50] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: what is wrong?
[00:50] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: I cant run the terminal
[00:51] <CJKay> tbrown2012: Does Ctrl+Alt+T do anything?
[00:51] <Tigerboy> try to install gnome-terminal?
[00:52] <cyrex> I normally change the terminal shortcut to that little key right next to the Right Alt
[00:52] <cyrex> that way, press: TERMINAL!
[00:52] <tbrown2012> CJKay: I tryed that already lol. Tigerboy: I installed it already I went to the software store and I search for it and I installed it last time but before all of this it work like a charm I update xubuntu
[00:53] <CJKay> Oh you didn't say you were on Xubuntu
[00:53] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: you will find the program under Accessories called "terminal"
[00:55] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: Yes I went to Accessories and know it pops up a windows saying Failed to execute default terminal Emulator Faild to execute child process "/home/tbrown2012/Desktop/exo-terminal-emulator.desktop" (permission Denied) I have not Idea what this means I know that I dont have permison but am the main administrator for this computer
[00:56] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: can you see the icon on your desktop?
[00:57] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: called exo-terminal or just terminal
[00:57] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: Yes I>_I
[00:57] <fishcooker> is there any cool apps for monitoring from cli?
[00:57] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: just right click it and properties then check the execute box
[00:58] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: or rather allow executing
[00:59] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: General: Emblems: Permissions: Launcher: I dont see a execute box in each of them?
[01:00] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: check allow executing file as program or something similar
[01:01] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: I dont see it?
[01:02] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: do you see anything in permissions that would allow you to change it to your log on name and give it full powers ? read write execute or the number 7
[01:02] <aaas> i keep getting importererror when trying to run a python script after running 'sudo python setup.py install' and sucessfullly installing a python module, is there something special that needs to be done to put the python module in a path or something?
[01:03] <tbrown2012> In permission I see Group: And it has tbrown2012 my user name do I put something else
[01:04] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: In permission I see Group: And it has tbrown2012 my user name do I put something else
[01:04] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: no that is fine and for owner the same with full permission
[01:05] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: Know in the Launcher should the command be exo-open--launch terminalEmulator
[01:05] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: you must set it so it has full permissions including execute usually there is a box at the bottom
[01:06] <gtmanfred> Jordan_U: L3top hmm, i am not sure either of those will work, is there not something similar to extlinux --install for grub2?
[01:06] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012:  that is for another terminal program-- it should work you just don't have the execute flag turned on
[01:07] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: how do I turn the flag on or something?
[01:07] <gtmanfred> i just need a way to activate the bootloader on that partition so that I can chainload to it
[01:07] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012 without a terminal to type in you have to use the file manager which requires right-click then selecting properties tab which should allow you to turn on execute
[01:10] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: So what is the application should run in the file manager or do you want me to put the file manager on the desktop and right click it and go to properties and aloow you to turn on execute or something
[01:11] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: do you have thunar or nautilus installed?
[01:12] <L3top> gtmanfred: remastersys will create a live cd that is syslinux based. As far as a switch to get around grub, I do not know of one.
[01:12] <L3top> gtmanfred: that does not mean one does not exist... I am just ignorant of it
[01:12] <gtmanfred> L3top: i don't have ubuntu installed which is I believe what is required
[01:13] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: if you have nautilus installed launch it and go to Desktop -- find the icon and follow the instructions I gave you.
[01:13] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: AM installing Konsole Terminal is that the right one and I dont know if I have thunar or Nautileus Installed
[01:15] <apwbdjp> tbrown2012, Any terminal is good, the choice is really up to you, you can try them all
[01:15] <L3top> I would assume you could boot live, install remastersys, and clone the live dvd onto another dvd... might run out of space actually, now that I think about it... but perhaps you could mount another drive with more space and set the cloning operations to run there... was just an idea
[01:15] <apwbdjp> tbrown2012, and to see if an app is installed, just type it in a terminal, and hit enter.
[01:15] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: also try gnome-terminal
[01:16] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: I have Gnome_terminal Installed Already were can I find it I cant find it
[01:16] <L3top> apt-cache policy <application> will tell you if it is installed, and what candidates exist.
[01:16] <gtmanfred> L3top: hmm, I might try that in a minute, right now, I am going to just try to boot it directly without chainloading
[01:16] <L3top> k
[01:17] <Tigerboy> tbrown2012: you can create a launcher for it on desktop just use the command gnome-terminal -- it should have left an icon in the menu when you installed it called just "Terminal"
[01:18] <Tigerboy> just use gnome-terminal be careful not to capitalize it.
[01:20] <gtmanfred> hmm, yeah now i get to initramfs quicker...i wonder if there is just a way to get to the try this blah blah screen from here?
[01:24] <tbrown2012> Tigerboy: Thank you for all your help I got it to work Man you are smart
[01:25] <gtmanfred> is there any way to long the gui for the live cd from busybox?
[01:26]  * L3top isn't sure what you are doing...
[01:26] <L3top> You could try unsquashing the root fs from the dvd into something, chrooting it, and remastering from there
[01:26] <L3top> Again, just thinking out loud
[01:28] <gtmanfred> hmm, that sounds better... i think the problem is when I get to the isolinux menu, it has skipped loading something from grub2...
[01:29] <Jeregon> 4\
[01:29] <L3top> remastersys will create its own menu.
[01:29] <L3top> You can too.
[01:29] <gtmanfred> ok, i think i am just going to have to load this think up the old fashioned way and go for it
[01:29] <haylo> remastersys works with zero technical expertise- just be real careful with it - keep all users and passwords the same
[01:29] <L3top> vesamenu.c32
[01:30] <haylo> dont use updates just make a very controlled system , add one thing at a time and remaster over and over
[01:30] <L3top> remastersys only carries over temporary users I believe, and uses ubiquity to install
[01:30] <L3top> oh
[01:30] <gtmanfred> haylo: i don't have ubuntu installed, i am going to try and do it for the live cd though
[01:30] <L3top> wait there are two options... dist or backup or something.
[01:31] <haylo> yeah i would install to usb instead gtmanfred . build on that and then remaster
[01:31] <L3top> dist will give you a clean version without users
[01:31] <haylo> install to usb like it is a hard drive gtmanfred
[01:31] <L3top> but as you have your sys configured.
[01:31] <gtmanfred> yeah, i think that is what I am goin to do, ugh...
[01:32] <L3top> on the bright side, you can install some desired programs prior to remaster
[01:32] <haylo> yeah chose the one that makes both at once- dont worry about your home folder- just make that slim- it can be backed up normally as data anyway
[01:32] <gtmanfred> L3top: only reason I want to do this is to have all the live cds on one usb so I can install tehm for a bunch of people this weekend
[01:32] <L3top> I see.
[01:33] <gtmanfred> hmm, maybe if i search for bootsector and grub2... hold on
[01:33] <L3top> You could just create aa custom bootloader
[01:33] <haylo> you dont remaster a libve cd- ive treid
[01:33] <haylo> tons of times believe me
[01:33] <L3top> just leave the isos as they are
[01:33] <gtmanfred> yeah i am thinking ahh there we go if you want to install grub2 to a boot sector do this
[01:33] <haylo> but go ahead and give it a whirl
[01:34] <gtmanfred> ok, i think i found what i was looking for ... now to try it
[01:34] <haylo> its not going to work
[01:35] <haylo> im trying to tell you
[01:35] <L3top> There is no reason it shouldnt work.
[01:35] <_schism_> has anyone used ubuntu with the arm realview platform by any chance?
[01:36] <haylo> well it could wirk- but i dont think it will. i thnk you do that with dd , make sustem changes but keep live format
[01:37] <haylo> trying to do it with remaster i think is wrong way- ive been scolded over and over for even trying- and in the end it didnt work
[01:37] <L3top> You can loop mount the raw image itself and remaster it.
[01:37] <L3top> I use a similar process to make our kubu based iso.
[01:38] <haylo> L3top, which kubu based iso may ask? the official?
[01:40] <L3top> our project is built on kubuntu, I was referring to our iso, not kubuntus.
[01:40] <deper29> hey, quick question. If I am on my home network and try to ssh to my desktop using ssh fermat, it doesn't work. If I try to ssh 192.168.1.138 it works. investigated a bit, and it says in dd-wrt the hostname is *
[01:40] <L3top> I think this may be getting off topic
[01:40] <deper29> how would I go about fixing that?
[01:40] <Jordan_U> gtmanfred: I would personally just install grub2 instead of grub legacy, but if you want to continue using grub legacy as your primary bootloader you can install grub2 (with no boot sector) via "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mountpoint_of_your_flash_drives_partition /dev/sda --grub-setup=/bin/true". Then load if from grub legacy via "root (hdX,Y); kernel /grub/core.img".
[01:41] <L3top> Jordan_U: I believe he is using syslinux
[01:41] <haylo> grub legacy doesnt even work with remastersys
[01:41] <gtmanfred> awesome
[01:41] <gtmanfred> no i am using grub legacy as the main mbr
[01:41] <L3top> oh
[01:41]  * L3top should know better than to question Jordan_U
[01:42] <Jordan_U> y
[01:42] <L3top> because you are all shades of clever, and I am a derp.
[01:42] <Jordan_U> L3top: That was actually "/away", I'm not sure why only the 'y' got through :)
[01:42] <haylo> L3top, i dont think you are a derp
[01:43] <newbie> hello
[01:44] <clausen> what does -pae mean on linux kernel packages?
[01:44] <Daekdroom> !pae | clausen
[01:44] <Daekdroom> It's necessary for the CPU to support it, however.
[01:45] <nyquist333> Hi. What is the default cipher mode (hopefully AES-XTS, SHA512) setup with the alternate installer using dm-crypt and LVM? Do I have to setup my LVM and dm-crypt by hand to use AES-XTS for full disk encryption? Thanks.
[01:45] <clausen> Daekdroom, thanks
[01:45] <newbie> can anyone give me tips for using unbuntu for first time?
[01:45] <L3top> haylo: this is my psychotic way of making an iso http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/browser/people/l3mce/lmcemaster.sh
[01:45] <clausen> Daekdroom, that link doesn't explain why there are separate packages
[01:45] <Xtreme> newbie: man <appname>
[01:46] <clausen> Daekdroom, is there some disadvantage to PAE-enabled kernels?
[01:46] <Daekdroom> clausen, not every processor out there supports it.
[01:46] <nyquist333> @newbie - Well you're on IRC that's a start. Do you have your email and web-browser setup? Explore the software center.
[01:46] <gtmanfred> Jordan_U: is that with the grub-install from legacy or grub2?
[01:46] <clausen> Daekdroom, oh, you mean it won't boot?
[01:46] <Daekdroom> From 12.04 LTS and following releases, the PAE kernel will be used by default.
[01:46] <Daekdroom> Yeah.
[01:46] <haylo> L3top, if you keep doing crazy iso things people will make fun of you- it hapened to me. remember a good system can last ten years
[01:46] <Viking667> ugh
[01:46] <clausen> Daekdroom, that's surprising!  (that one kernel can't support both)
[01:47] <Viking667> won't work on my laptop then... it doesn't have PAE on the CPU
[01:47] <Jordan_U> gtmanfred: grub2.
[01:47] <gtmanfred> figured, ok thanks
[01:48] <Jordan_U> gtmanfred: You're welcome.
[01:48] <clausen> Daekdroom, anyway, thanks for the explanation :)
[01:48] <Viking667> Now, I have a question. I'm trying to update the default version of java to the java-7-openjdk, but the command fails.
[01:49] <gtmanfred> Jordan_U: really appreciate it :-D
[01:49] <L3top> Our system is designed to be an appliance. This is what creates the daily snapshots after the build. Our iso is designed to be idiot proof... the problem is I am the idiot making it.
[01:49] <newbie> thx nyquist
[01:49] <Viking667> In essence, I did this:  update-java-alternatives --jre --set java-7-openjdk-i386   and got this:  update-java-alternatives: file does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/.java-7-openjdk-i386.jinfo
[01:49] <newbie> i think i have it setup
[01:50] <Viking667> Instead, I have this file here: /usr/lib/jvm/.java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386.jinfo
[01:50] <Viking667> should I symlink that sucker?
[01:50] <L3top> cp ftw
[01:50] <Viking667> mrm.
[01:52] <Viking667> Well, that worked.
[01:52] <Viking667> Now, time to relaunch eclipse.
[01:52] <L3top> :)
[01:53] <upset> This is pretty dumb, but... I installed Gnome 3 and now suddenly flash videos are broken. I'm not really sure how.
[01:55] <Viking667> I'm wondering if your browser was calling the gnash plugin instead.
[01:55] <Viking667>  See what plugins your browser lists... if it's google-chrome, then <shrug> as that comes with its own flash.
[01:55] <upset> Viking667: Good point, maybe it still works in Chrome.
[01:55] <Viking667> often, about:plugins will tell you what your browser sees.
[01:57]  * L3top would just apt-get install --reinstall flashpugin-instaler
[01:57] <Viking667> aller
[01:57] <L3top> installer*
[01:57] <L3top> yeah
[01:57] <L3top> plugin
[01:57] <Viking667> that would do the job, I guess.
[01:57] <L3top> man...
[01:57] <Viking667> wow. I missed that one.
[01:57] <L3top> apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[01:58] <deadmund> I have a netbook and it isn't quite powerful enough to play h.264 at 720p using totem or vlc. What can I do to get around this issue?  (I'm considering right now using ffmpeg to convert to something else)
[01:59] <upset> deadmund: What netbook is it?
[01:59] <Zontar> that's probably your best option
[01:59] <Zontar> another option is downsize it to your screen res
[01:59] <upset> upset: You can get a decent boost from jupiter.
[01:59] <upset> upset: It's also really handy. Adds an hour of battery life when in power saving mode
[02:00] <ReXHaviK> which programming language is this line from?   exec wish "$0" "$@"
[02:01] <upset> L3top: Worked! You're awesome.
[02:01] <gtmanfred> looks like bash to me
[02:01] <gtmanfred> maybe zsh
[02:01] <upset> Ditto
[02:01] <papapino> ciao
[02:01] <upset> Bye
[02:01] <papapino> list
[02:02] <deadmund> upset: acer aspire one.  It has an atom processor
[02:02] <upset> deadmund: Probably the 450, right?
[02:02] <upset> deadmund: There's also a slight boost you may get from bumping up your ram, but it depends
[02:03] <papapino> apocalypto ita
[02:03] <upset> deadmund: Mostly jupiter as a safe overclocking tool is helpful
[02:03] <deadmund> upset: IDK if it's a 450, lemme look at the model number
[02:03] <bazhang> papapino, not here
[02:03] <deadmund> upset: you think overclocking will give me enough of a performance boost to play h.264?
[02:03] <upset> deadmund: Mmm, maybe
[02:04] <upset> deadmund: It's worth a shot, and you might just keep jupiter even if it doesn't play to your liking. I swear it makes a world of difference.
[02:04] <gtmanfred> ReXHaviK: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[02:04] <gtmanfred> that is a good bash guide ↑
[02:05] <mraxilus> Hello, does anyone know a way of turning off the secondary monitor via keyboard shortcuts instead of manually changing the monitor settings?
[02:05] <mraxilus> off*
[02:05] <deadmund> upset: jupiter isn't in the repos?  Link please?
[02:05] <deper29> sorry, I rebooted. does anyone have any suggestions at all?
[02:05] <upset> deadmund: You can google as well as I can
[02:06] <upset> deadmund: should be in the webupd8 repositories specifically, though
[02:06] <ReXHaviK> gtmanfred, i am more interested in the sole 'wish' portion of the command line, thnks
[02:06] <upset> So, my second problem. Gnome 3's theming is broken. Changing it manually with dconf-editor does nothing, and extensions neither show in gnome-tweak-tool nor in the appropriate folder.
[02:06] <deadmund> upset: thanks
[02:07] <gtmanfred> ReXHaviK: i got it as this http://tcl.sourceforge.net/
[02:07] <ReXHaviK> tl is part of tk or the other way around?
[02:07] <Viking667> tcl feeds tk
[02:08] <ReXHaviK> gtmanfred, tcl, thanks, thats the missing package, thnks
[02:08] <gtmanfred> mraxilus: not sure if ubuntu uses it, but xrandr --output <monitorname> --off ?
[02:08] <Viking667> tk's like the "gui" bit on top of tcl
[02:08] <mraxilus> gtmanfred: how do I find my monitor's names?
[02:08] <gtmanfred> mraxilus: just type xrandr
[02:08] <gtmanfred> should say like HDMI-1 VGA-1 or something like that
[02:09] <gtmanfred> iirc
[02:09] <Viking667> they could be CRT1/2 too
[02:09] <Viking667> ... at least that's what the Catalyst Xorg driver reports to xrandr.
[02:09] <mraxilus> gtmanfred: yay it works... now how do I turn it back on?
[02:10] <gtmanfred> mraxilus: xrandr --output <name> --auto
[02:10] <zcat_> trying to build latest tuxmath (with network game) on ubunto 10.04 .. is there any easier way? I found a tuxmath ppa for 8.04 but it seems abandoned and doesn't work
[02:10] <gtmanfred> or --mode WidthxHeight
[02:10] <Viking667> gtmanfred: would mirror be turned on by default?
[02:10] <mraxilus> yes it is
[02:10] <gtmanfred> Viking667: probably
[02:11] <mraxilus> hmm, I would like to load it back as secondary again
[02:11] <Viking667>  hm. then add   --output blah1 --right-of blah0
[02:11] <gtmanfred> mraxilus: xrandr --output <monitorone> --<direction>-of <monitortwo>
[02:11] <gtmanfred> automate it with an alias in .bashrc
[02:11] <sudipta> can anyone tell me what is added advantage of using a AMD64 ubuntu image than the x86 image?
[02:11] <zcat_> sudipta, almost none?
[02:11] <Viking667> in your case, if the right monitor's the secondary one, it's xrandr --output secondmonitor --right-of firstmonitor
[02:12] <gtmanfred> sudipta: more ram?
[02:12] <zcat_> gtmanfred, ahh.. pae? ;)
[02:12] <sudipta> ?
[02:12] <Viking667> pae differs.
[02:12] <zcat_> hehe
[02:12] <gtmanfred> pretty sure you get blocked at 4gb of ram with 32bit os
[02:12] <Viking667> Isn't pae more for 32-bit CPUs so they can address more than 3Gb?
[02:13] <bazhang> Viking667, pretty much
[02:13] <deadmund> upset: jupitor is not an overclocking application
[02:13] <Viking667> thought so
[02:13] <zcat_> yes .. pae lets you address more than 4gb memory in a 32 bit kernel..
[02:13] <sudipta> gtmanfred:i have 2 gb of ram.....
[02:13] <Viking667> heh. then you don't need pae. And AMD64 may or may not give you an advantage.
[02:13] <Viking667>  with that amount of memory, I'd stick to x86 for now.
[02:13] <gtmanfred> sudipta: ok, you asked for the advantages? if you don't have more than 4, then w/e
[02:14] <mraxilus> getting closer, now my background appears to be misaligned by 2 inches from the bottom
[02:14] <mraxilus> it's just black
[02:14] <zcat_> my feeling is there's not really any overall advantage.. except perhaps if you want to run VM's or something
[02:14] <Viking667> hmmm. Modeline needs tweaking.
[02:14] <sudipta> gtmanfred:my processors is amd athlon 64
[02:14] <mraxilus> it's weird though because the top bar is in the right place
[02:14] <gtmanfred> then use 64bit so you can expand
[02:14] <Viking667> mraxilus: you've logged out and logged back in?
[02:15] <gtmanfred> s/expand/&\ your ram/
[02:15] <zcat_> there's not really much reason to avoid 64 bit though.. most of the stuff that used to be a problem with it has been solved for a while now
[02:15] <mraxilus> :/ the purpose of this was to be able to do it quickly. Do I really have to log out and log in?
[02:15] <Viking667> heh. xcept on my system, there's not much point until I upgrade to a CPU _with_ the VT extensions...
[02:16] <Viking667> Mine's just a Pentium Dual Core. Not even a Core/2 Duo.
[02:16] <sudipta> gtmanfred:but i heard that there is not enough 64 bit application....is that true?
[02:16] <joeballz2> does anyone know of a good guide to troubleshoot ubuntu performance issues?
[02:16] <zcat_> so how about my question? Latest tuxmath with network game as seen on debian.. can I find a backport or ppa of this for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[02:16] <gtmanfred> i don't use ubuntu, but afaik, you can compile most 32 bit applications and run them on 64 bit machines
[02:17] <bazhang> sudipta, no thats not true
[02:17] <bazhang> joeballz2, thats quite vague. clarify
[02:17] <bazhang> !manual | joeballz2 start here
[02:17] <bazhang> !rute | joeballz2 and here
[02:18] <zcat_> everything in the repos is compiled for 64 afaik.. and most of the 32bit non-free stuff can be made to run in wrappers or something
[02:18] <zcat_> .. which packages typically take careof
[02:18] <az> ?
[02:18] <joeballz2> bazhang, my 11.10 laptop has been running slow..
[02:18] <az> how do i add icons to my desktop
[02:18] <sudipta> bazhang:ok,do I really need to expand my ram....though in my case 2 gb is sufficient,a bit slow though
[02:19] <bazhang> joeballz2, thats not very descriptive. slow in what way. give some very clear examples.
[02:19] <Guest74858> dude you medd 4gb to run this well
[02:19] <zcat_> For more ram, you can just install a pae kernel ..
[02:19] <bazhang> sudipta, your choice
[02:19] <Guest74858> i have 3gb and its a bit slow
[02:19] <jc-2> sorry, where may i upload a picture?
[02:19] <bazhang> Guest74858, thats not true
[02:19] <Vermicelli> I'm considering putting /boot (along with swap) on a flush-fitting SD card in my netbook (with lubuntu), since the SSD is so slow. What would be a recommended size for a boot partition (or would there be any reason to discourage me from doing this)?
[02:19] <bazhang> !paste | jc-2
[02:19] <zcat_> .. I'm not sure if there's any performance advantage in >4gb 64-bit vs >4gb pae
[02:19] <Guest74858> how do i install icons to my desktop
[02:19] <Guest74858> ?
[02:20] <bazhang> Guest74858, right click drag from menu
[02:20] <Viking667> do you have any ON your desktop at the moment?
[02:20] <joeballz2> bazhang there's not much on those links related to hunting down resource hogs and finding bottlenecks on your system.
[02:20] <bazhang> joeballz2, open a terminal. top
[02:20] <Viking667> but yes, bazhang is correct (or right click on the desktop, click "Create new ....")
[02:20] <Guest74858> why is my computer laggy?
[02:21] <jc-2> http://imagebin.org/208885
[02:21] <jc-2> this is my problem
[02:21] <sudipta> Guest74858>extract the theme and put it in ~/.icon
[02:21] <Viking667> Guest74858: memory? busy CPU?
[02:21] <Guest74858> anyone wants to get my shell terminal through netcat
[02:21] <Guest74858> ?
[02:21] <jc-2> how can i figure it out?
[02:21] <Guest74858> what theme?
[02:21] <joeballz2> bazhang: top is ok.. however there are times my laptop is completely unresponsive when I cant even ctrl +alt f1 to open a terminal
[02:22] <zcat_> so many things I have to install just to compile t4k .. I haven't even got to compiling tuxmath yet!!
[02:22] <Viking667> joeballz2: wow. That's pretty bad. System load probably spiking up above 10 does that.
[02:22] <Viking667> why do yo want to compile tk? there's an ubuntu package for it
[02:23] <Viking667> I'm not sure if there's a dependency upon the version, but is tuxmath in the repos?
[02:23] <jc-2> i've got the package but i do not how to install them.
[02:23] <zcat_> OLD tuxmath is in the repos. I want the network game
[02:23] <Viking667> is it a .deb?
[02:23] <jc-2> yes
[02:23] <Viking667> zcat_: ahh, right. So you need the source.
[02:23] <jc-2> it is
[02:23] <zcat_> I already tried installing the debian package..
[02:23] <Viking667> jc-2: use dpkg
[02:23] <zcat_> .. even more dependencies
[02:24] <Viking667> zcat_: and found it was the old one. Hm.
[02:24] <jc-2> i tried but it makes a mistake
[02:24] <zcat_> someone make me a ppa please?!!
[02:24] <jc-2> i tried with sudo dpkg -i (package name)
[02:24] <Vermicelli> What's a comfortable but spare size for a /boot partition?
[02:25] <bazhang> Vermicelli, 500 mb
 i tried with sudo dpkg -i (package name)
[02:25] <joeballz2> I just feel like I can run alot more apps in windows 7 than in Oneric
[02:25] <jc-2> but i shows a mistake
[02:25] <Viking667> Vermicelli: I made mine 200Mb, only have to clean out old versions occasionally.
[02:25] <Viking667> jc-2: and what's the mistake it shows?
[02:25] <Vermicelli> Hrm. I'm also being told 100 MB is far too much...
[02:26] <bazhang> Vermicelli, no thats not enough
[02:26] <Viking667> Well, I didn't ask anyone. But I figured that 200Mb would be enough for about four kernel versions.
[02:26] <Vermicelli> Thanks. May have to throw out this idea then.
[02:26] <Viking667> For example, on my setup, I have two kernels taking up about 80Mb
[02:27] <Viking667> err sorry, three kernels.
[02:27] <gooer> 1ops hi
[02:27] <Tyrope> Quick question, how do I extract file.zip to /var/www ? "tar -xzf file.zip /var/www" doesn't work.
[02:27] <joeballz2> is it really just 1 week away until Precise Pangolin is available?
[02:27] <Vermicelli> Wondering if it's worth it to put /boot alogn with /swap on an SD in my netbook, since SSD is slow.
[02:27] <Vermicelli> Only have a 1GB card however.
[02:28] <bazhang> !12.04 | joeballz2
[02:28] <tsimpson> Tyrope: tar only works for tar files, use "unzip" for zip files
[02:28] <wylde> joeballz2: yes.
[02:28] <Tyrope> tsimpson: That's what I thought, thx.
[02:29] <tehowe> There oughter be a script somewhere that checks to see if old kernels are filling up /boot. That wouldn't be that hard via crontab, right?
 look, dpkg: error: unknown option -/
[02:29] <jc-2> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and un-installing packages [*];
[02:29] <jc-2> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[02:29] <jc-2> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[02:29] <jc-2> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[02:29] <FloodBot1> jc-2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <jc-2> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[02:29] <zcat_> configure: error: libt4k_common is required: git://git.debian.org/tux4kids/t4kcommon.git
[02:29] <zcat_> what package resolves this?
[02:30] <wylde> !pastebin | jc-2
[02:30] <jc-2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/937747/
[02:30] <bazhang> zcat_, are you on debian?
[02:30] <zcat_> yes
[02:30] <zcat_> err no
[02:30] <bazhang> zcat_, #debian
[02:30] <zcat_> I'm on ubuntu 10.04
[02:30] <jc-2> it shows dpkg http://paste.ubuntu.com/937747/
[02:31] <bazhang> zcat_, yet you are using debian packages with ubuntu?
[02:31] <Viking667> ugh.
[02:31] <zcat_> if I was on debian I would have the latest version ov tuxmath that I want from the repos
[02:32] <zcat_> but debian doesn't like half the machines here .. goes to seel on idle and won't wake up again
[02:32] <zcat_> *sleep
[02:32] <bazhang> zcat_, is that a yes?
[02:32] <zcat_> otherwise I would have switched them to debian a long time ago
[02:32] <zcat_> bazhang, I am trying to compile tuxmath from source
[02:32] <zcat_> I already tried to install the debian packages for it.
[02:33] <zcat_> .. which dometimes works in ubuntu
[02:33] <wylde> zcat_: you can try 'apt-get build-dep <packagename>'
[02:33] <Guest74858> Steve where are you
[02:33] <Guest74858> ?
[02:34] <zcat_> I don't think the build deps for the older tuxmath are the same, but that might help..
[02:34] <zcat_> and there's no t4k at all in ubuntu 10.04 so
[02:34] <wylde> zcat_: at the very least it will shorten the list of packages you need to locate and install. :)
[02:34] <Guest74858> how do i put icons to my desktop
[02:35] <Guest74858> i click and drag
[02:35] <bazhang> Guest74858, I just told you
[02:35] <Guest74858> and i not move
[02:35] <zcat_> next question; will I be able to move this to 9 other computers withput going through the same process on every one?
[02:36] <Guest74858> aparently your method is not applicable on my PC
[02:36] <Guest74858>  i did exactly what you said
[02:36] <zcat_> 10 computers set up for teaching .. I want the kids to be able to play a network game of tuxmath
[02:36] <wylde> zcat_: check out 'checkinstall'
[02:37] <zcat_> ok, finally got t4k to ./configure without problems
[02:37] <wylde> !info checkinstall
[02:37] <zcat_> I can get all the packages I installed out of .bash_history anyway and just write a scipt for the other machines
[02:38] <Guest74858> right click then drag
[02:38] <cylex> When are they releasing Ubuntu 12.04
[02:39] <zcat_> the last day of the most delayed timezone of april, traditionally..
[02:39] <cylex> k
[02:39] <Guest74858> my GUI is slow
[02:40] <Guest74858> i don't know how to add icons to my desktop
[02:42] <maheanuu> IaOra, I would like to say thanks for all those who helped me this morning with my hash file corruption problem,  The ISP for French Polynesia admitted to me today that the problem was being caused by them and had been happening for about a month, they claim that it will be repaired tonite..   I had never seen this problem before and as my computer had been down just before this incident started and I reinstalled knowing nothing of the p
[02:42] <maheanuu> roblem and Mana did not notify anyone by email
[02:43] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: open a folder in Nautilus, find item you want on desktop, hold ctrl-shift and drag drop item to desktop. this will create a link.  If you drag drop without holding a key, you will either move or copy, depending on if the item is on the same filesystem or not.
[02:43] <tbrown2012> Installing Microsoft office 2010 on xubuntu
[02:44] <Guest74858> what is Nautilus
[02:44] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: to explisetly move, hold shift. To explicetly copy, hold ctrl.
[02:44] <Guest74858> ?
[02:44] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: your file manager
[02:44] <zcat_> yay, looks like it's building finally
[02:44] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: it's a little folder looking icon
[02:45] <Guest74858> i don't see nautilus
[02:45] <Guest74858> i only see dash home
[02:45] <wylde> zcat_: checkinstall will build a .deb for you for the other machines. Or like you said you can script it.
[02:45] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: you ever use a computer before today?
[02:46] <tbrown2012> Does anyone on this channel have office 2010 on there ubuntu
[02:46] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, can you add icons to your desktop if using 11.10 and unity?
[02:46] <Guest74858> where exactly is nautilus
[02:46] <haz3lnut> Guest74858: folders, filemanagers?
[02:46] <Guest74858> naughty lust
[02:46] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: yes
[02:46] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, but not without adding additional installs correct
[02:47] <zcat_> wylde, hardest part is all the dependencies, which I now have. apt-get install -y *-dev ; tar x ; ./configure ; make ; make install
[02:47] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: why?
[02:47] <wylde> zcat_: alrighty.
[02:47] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, because 11.10 does not have it by default
[02:48] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, in fact it was taken out with the new shell
[02:48] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: have what? a desktop?  I didn't install anything extra, but I upgraded. not new install.
[02:49] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, mine was a new install. so for me by default it wasn't available.. but thanks for your info
[02:49] <maheanuu> Ryo, I think that is the main reason that I stayed back with 10.04.4 LTS There are too many new changes to the new stuff........
[02:49] <haz3lnut> y'all are head tripping
[02:50] <wylde> !nounity
[02:50] <RyoRonin> maheanuu, I agree. But new installation for the new goodies.. I have 10.04 running server not workstation
[02:51] <haz3lnut> Just drag drop, no need to install anything.  I got pangolin in a vbox, never installed anything new, it's a drag drop icon on desktop.  What "extra" would you install?
[02:52] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel
[02:52] <sunson> Can someone tell me what is the name of the top-right "power button" menu on the menu bar in ubuntu classic desktop?
[02:52] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: and what will that do for you?
[02:52] <maheanuu> Ryo, I have been in digital since the 60's and am a ret. navy chief ET and ex Sperry Univac Field Engineer "CETA".   My problem is age and retention is not as good as when I was a couple of decades ago
[02:53] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, add the ability to do the gnome functions to create the desktop launchers
[02:53] <RyoRonin> maheanuu, so true
[02:53] <maheanuu> I just don't play well, anymore, I still work at keepin up and trying to learn, and I switched about a year ago cold turkey from WinBloze
[02:54] <zcat_> tuxmath: error while loading shared libraries: libt4k_common.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:54] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: I never had to do that.  Icons, links, etc on desktop since day one.
[02:54] <zcat_> :(
[02:55] <RyoRonin> maheanuu, well I have gone cold turkey, still run win7 for work and msoft applications. but run 2 laptops with Ubuntu 11.10 and 1 laptop with CrunchLinux
[02:55] <Viking667> zcat_: did you install the libraries to the correct places in the system?
[02:55] <zcat_> make install ought to do that
[02:55] <maheanuu> We had an old saying in the Navy, "Experience Gained is Equal To The Cube of Equipment Destroyed"  I have really found this to be a natural law or sumpin <grin>
[02:55] <steed22> which file in /etc/init.d is the one that will get ran at every boot time? i put a bash script in there and cant remember which one it is.
[02:56] <haz3lnut> RyoRonin: I run Ubuntu 11.10 at home and at work.  I haven;t seen behavior you are talking about.
[02:56] <maheanuu> You Good!!!  Where are you?
[02:56] <zcat_> is there something I run to reindex libraries?
[02:56] <RyoRonin> maheanuu, sorry I meant havent gone cold turkey.
[02:56] <bazhang> !ot | maheanuu RyoRonin
[02:56] <Boohbah> maheanuu: awesome! did you ever cause any nuclear reactor meltdowns?
[02:56] <Boohbah> sorry bazhang
[02:56] <bazhang> lets get back to Ubuntu support
[02:57] <maheanuu> lets move this off to Ubuntu off topic....  I truly would like to talk
[02:57] <zcat_> ok, they're installed in /usr/local/lib .. should they be somewhere else?
[02:57] <RyoRonin> haz3lnut, yeah I have 2 laptops with 11.10 and Unity as the shell, and they both won't allow me to create the icons, oh well no bigs... thanks again for the info
[02:58] <steed22> which file in /etc/init.d is the one that will get ran at every boot time? i put a bash script in there and cant remember which one it is.
[02:59] <gtmanfred> Jordan_U: hmm, i must be doing something wrong, do i need to do that command from within an ubuntu install?
[02:59] <gtmanfred> right now, it is just hanging while loading the core.img
[03:00] <steed22> or how to search all the files in a current directory to find a given text, would work too.
[03:00] <zcat_> hmm, ok moving them to /usr/lib worked ;)
[03:02] <Viking667> zcat_: so could have adding /usr/local/lib to ldd's search path.
[03:02] <Viking667> err, not ldd.... whatever the tool is that rebuilds the ld.so cache
[03:02] <zcat_> oh .. how do you do that?
[03:02] <zcat_> yeah, ok. my way works ;)
[03:02] <Viking667> wish I knew. I haven't done it since the early 2k
[03:02] <haz3lnut> steed22: grep -i "some text" /etc/init.d/*
[03:02] <koffel> is setting up a dhcp3 server internal network hard
[03:02] <Viking667> check ldconfig
[03:03] <Viking667> zcat_: that was for you, by the way.
[03:04] <zcat_> well, I now have one machine that can play a network game. Which is great progress!
[03:04] <zcat_> .. ant totally useless at the same time.. ;)
[03:04] <wha43v3r> Hello Ubuntu users! Any one playn' with OpenVAS? Need advice ^^
[03:04] <the_real_crimper> i think i botched my raid, i used mdadm to create a mirror, but it seems to fail to mount. is there a way to format it using /dev/md or do i have to rebuild from scratch?
[03:05] <compdoc> wha43v3r, never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting
[03:06] <wha43v3r> It is vuln scanner) Have problems with installing it
[03:09] <wha43v3r> Actually I'm arch user :D But ubuntu community was always great, with various useful materials. So I hope here I can find an answer)
[03:09] <wha43v3r> So... Does any1 have troubles with OpenVAS installing? When time comes to add user with administrator rights (according to openvas-check-setup), after I trying add user with ' sudo openvasad -c 'add_user' -n admin -r Admin ' get error ' Failed to create user admin! ' Unfortunately, no other data is provided ((((
[03:10] <shum> Enter text here.../msg nickserv shum5
[03:10] <compdoc> wha43v3r, are you trying to create a user named admin?
[03:11] <wha43v3r> well
[03:11] <wha43v3r> not really, I cant cr8 any username
[03:12] <wha43v3r> I take 'admin' for example
[03:12] <compdoc> I think admin is a protected name and cannot be used
[03:13] <_schism_> have a question for you smart people.  I have a machine running headless and everytime it has to reboot it gets the enter keyring prompt and I cant vnc into it so I have to go lug out a keyboard and monitor etc.  I have searched google but the only solutions I can seem to find fix the keyring problem but break vnc.  anyone point me ina good direction?
[03:13] <compdoc> what vnc do you use?
[03:14] <_schism_> the uilt in desktop sharing thingie
[03:15] <zcat_> change login keyring password, for new password just press enter, use unsafe storage
[03:15] <wha43v3r> compdoc: Not really, I was trying any names for this user, nothing was help (Sry for my english, it is not my native lang :)
[03:15] <compdoc> that requires someone to be logged into the desktop. not optimal for remote admin
[03:15] <compdoc> I think its named vino
[03:16] <compdoc> you might look into vnc4server
[03:16] <zcat_> anyhow, headless? vnc? should probably run your headless machine with no gui and use ssh
[03:16] <_schism_> zcat_, tried that before and it broke something.  compdoc its on an inside network not on the internet so security isnt really that big of a deal
[03:17] <RockMeAmadeus> ui
[03:17] <Name141> Does the 4670 ATi video card have good support?
[03:17] <zcat_> hmm, ok. shouldn't be any diffence between a keyring with a password and one without, other than not being asked for the password
[03:17] <alexnatera> español alguien?
[03:18] <_schism_> zcat_, I will give it a shot again.  I want to say it only had the vnc password listed but not sure.  looking for a keyboard and mouse now to check it
[03:18] <zcat_> !es
[03:18] <alexnatera> gracias
[03:19] <compdoc> I always disable the keyring
[03:19] <zcat_> I encrypt the root fs and then run the desktop with auto login, no keyring passwd etc.
[03:20] <_schism_> compdoc, umm how?
[03:20] <compdoc> I dont remember - I jsut googled it up
[03:24] <pikkachu> hi, in the session locking screen how do I disable the on-screen keyboard? it appeared somehow and nothing I do make it disappear...
[03:27] <RyoRonin> pikkachu,you can try this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/84050/how-do-i-disable-the-on-screen-keyboard-in-the-unlock-screen
[03:28] <pikkachu> thanks RyoRonin!
[03:28] <RyoRonin> pikkachu, did it work?
[03:33] <steed22> how do i do the reverse of this? "rc-update yourscriptname start 2"
[03:33] <steed22> want to remove my script
[03:35] <xial> hola
[03:35] <xial> alguien on ?
[03:36] <compdoc> rc-update del script
[03:38] <Guest65389> does any one  know how to install mindguard on linux mint
[03:39] <bazhang> Guest65389, check mintsupport
[03:39] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Guest65389
[03:41] <xial> hola
[03:43] <Viking667> hola... habla Inglese?
[03:43] <Viking667> <<< no habla Espanol o portuges
[03:45] <douglas-lee> test
[03:45] <cluelesscoder> !mintsupport
[03:46] <cluelesscoder> how would one access irc.spotchat.org?
[03:46] <Viking667>  depends partly on the IRC client, I use irssi, so I use /connect irc.spotchat.org
[03:46] <xial> i search ani BH ?
[03:46] <gtmanfred> cluelesscoder: /connect irc.spotchat.org or however your cliend does it
[03:46] <xial> :P
[03:46] <xial> PRIV plz
[03:58] <Guest74858> babbbbyyyy
[03:59] <extraclassic> does anyone here use fce ultra
[03:59] <bazhang> extraclassic, what is that
[04:00] <extraclassic> nes emulator
[04:00] <bazhang> extraclassic, in the repos?
[04:00] <extraclassic> yeah, fceu in the 10.04 repo
[04:01] <bazhang> extraclassic, some question about it?
[04:01] <extraclassic> to play a game fullscreen you have to enable opengl, but when i do that it's playing the game too fast....disabling it will allow me to play normal speed but it won't go fullscreen that way
[04:02] <bazhang> extraclassic, sounds like a bug; consider filing one?
[04:03] <YohanMeister> does anyone know a way to install 12.04 without the desktop environment?
[04:04] <extraclassic> they develop fceux now & not fceu
[04:04] <Fyodorovna> yohan
[04:05] <bazhang> extraclassic, so have you tried using the maintained fceux?
[04:05] <extraclassic> yeah, it gave me even worse problems
[04:06] <Fyodorovna> YohanMeister, look at the minimal net download.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:06] <bazhang> extraclassic, so file a bug? check launchpad for same?
[04:06] <extraclassic> haven't found much information about it
[04:07] <extraclassic> saw a cool video where someone was using it fullscreen and it ran smooth though...not sure about what version they used though
[04:07] <extraclassic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR9-vahLi1s
[04:09] <uabn93> whats the 12.04 release date?
[04:10] <paulus68> !precise|uabn93
[04:10] <XiRoN> Any ideas guys> http://pastebin.com/hwd49rSE
[04:11] <XiRoN> Never seen this before
[04:11] <ejo> Hi.  I just performed a fresh install of 11.10, and noticed that certain "narrow" fonts which are installed on the system are not showing up in font-chooser dialogs (e.g. in Terminal preferences, or Firefox preferences).  E.g. I can't set Firefox default font to bitstream vera sans narrow because it doesn't show up in the dialog ... despite the fact that it IS installed.
[04:12] <Viking667> XiRoN: interesting... I thought I'd seen that before.
[04:12] <ejo> I've fixed this before on another system, something involving my font config file was required, but I seem to have lost my old bookmark about it, and have had no luck searching for info on this problem.  It's a known issue but the keywords are just a little too common apparently.
[04:12] <YohanMeister> Fyodorovna: It appears they don't have 12.04 available for that. I know it isn't released yet, but it's beta 2 now so should be useable. I found a link for a 12.04 core system but don't see any specific info about whether it's for 64 bit sytems or if it can install to an efi system (an efi installation). Any ideas?
[04:12] <Viking667> XiRoN: do you have a devpts in your list of mounts?
[04:13] <XiRoN> Viking667: I'm new to linux, what does that mean.
[04:13] <YohanMeister> Is there a way to do it from the standard install cd, or I would have to go in an remove the desktop environment after install if I installed that way?
[04:13] <Viking667> bring up a Terminal, type "mount" into it.
[04:13] <Viking667>  You'll get a list of things, one of which SHOULD say this:
[04:13] <Viking667> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[04:14] <Fyodorovna> YohanMeister, efi I would not know myself how but I believe if needed can be done.
[04:14] <Viking667> Of course, it might not be relevant to your problem, but I suspect it is.
[04:14] <Viking667> hm. It's done on automatic on my system, so it never appears in my /etc/fstab
[04:15] <YohanMeister> I see. I wonder what desktop they are using in 12.04 and how much of a challenge it would be to remove it?
[04:15] <YohanMeister> are they even still using x as a backend?
[04:15] <Viking667> They'd BETTER be, or my wife's going to be an unhappy puppy.
[04:19] <peepsalot> i saw that tomboy is "no longer supported by canonical" (ie moved into universe), is there any  other app that is preferred over tomboy now?
[04:21] <Viking667> that's that notetaker, isn't it?
[04:21] <paulus68> XiRoN: can you try this http://serverfault.com/questions/233962/failing-to-connect-to-server-via-ssh-server-refused-to-allocate-pty
[04:22] <[deXter]> Hi all
[04:22] <[deXter]> What's the present status of Apple device connectivity in Ubuntu?
[04:22] <ejo> No one's aware of this problem with 'narrow' versions of fonts not appearing in font-chooser dialogs?
[04:23] <paulus68> !precise|YohanMeister
[04:26] <YohanMeister> yeah, I know
[04:26] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[04:26] <YohanMeister> the daily builds are avail but I'm not sure if you can install a minimal system from it
[04:29] <ejo> !fonts
[04:30] <teligard_> who has experience with reverse proxies and nginx?
[04:31] <YohanMeister> does anyone know if ubuntu core can be installed as an efi system?
[04:35] <kantlivelong> hey all
[04:35] <kantlivelong> how can i suspend+hibernate at the same time?
[04:37] <paulus68> YohanMeister: this might be usefull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566046
[04:37] <ThadiusB> hello all
[04:37] <wifioregon> So Im getting an error saying upgrade flash player in 11.10..whats the best way to do it? Should I actually follow the adobe instructions?
[04:37] <TuxBlackEdo> I was wondering, can I make my vncserver only load 1 gui application (no menu/trash can/etc) how can i do this?
[04:38] <wifioregon> or should I just run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[04:38] <__Alex_> wifioregon: Yes, they have an APT repository for Ubuntu
[04:38] <roasted> Anybody by chance running a Canon 495 all in one? I can't get the scanner working and curious if anybody has it.
[04:38] <ThadiusB> I found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???
[04:38] <ejo> Help!  deja vu condensed fonts not available in my applications although I've installed ttf-dejavu on a fresh clean install of ubuntu 11.10!
[04:38] <__Alex_> wifioregon: Use the ADOBE instructions
[04:38] <kantlivelong> TuxBlackEdo: you could always try X tunneling too
[04:38] <ejo> -- and of course I've regenerated my font cache and restarted the apps in question, even rebooted.
[04:38] <TuxBlackEdo> x tunneling?
[04:38] <YohanMeister> thx paulus68
[04:39] <paulus68> YohanMeister: your welcome
[04:39] <kantlivelong> TuxBlackEdo: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[04:39] <kantlivelong> kinda old guide but it works
[04:39] <Guest65389> how do you install mindguard on linux
[04:40] <kantlivelong> hasnt changed ;)
[04:40] <paulus68> !mindguard|Guest65389
[04:40] <bazhang> Guest65389, ask in mintsupport, as I said
[04:40] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Guest65389
[04:41] <paulus68> bazhang: thx
[04:41] <wifioregon> thanks
[04:41] <Xtreme> bazhang: which ubuntu derivatives do we support here? kubuntu, xubuntu etc?
[04:41] <__Alex_> wifioregon: np
[04:42] <bazhang> Xtreme, xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu ubuntu ubuntustudio edubuntu I would guess as well
[04:42] <kantlivelong> perhaps im the only person that wants suspend+hibernate :/
[04:42] <TuxBlackEdo> kantlivelong, can't I just put something into /home/user/.vnc/xstartup ?
[04:42] <Xtreme> bazhang:  what about backtrack and other OS based on ubuntu? do we support them too?
[04:42] <kantlivelong> TuxBlackEdo: prolly.. xtunneling is just nice
[04:43] <kantlivelong> though not over a wan
[04:43] <ThadiusB> I found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???
[04:43] <bazhang> Xtreme, no, they have their own channels, either on freenode, or in the case of mint on irc.spotchat
[04:43] <Xtreme> ok, thanks :)
[04:43] <paulus68> kantlivelong: perhaps this might be usefull to you http://askubuntu.com/questions/78907/how-can-i-hibernate-suspend-from-the-command-line-and-do-so-at-a-specific-time-a
[04:44] <kantlivelong> paulus68: ah ha `pm-suspend-hybrid`
[04:45] <kantlivelong> perfecto!
[04:45] <kantlivelong> now i just gotta fix suspend :/
[04:45] <paulus68> kantlivelong: is mentioned just underneeth echo 'pmi action suspend' | at 11pm
[04:48] <ThadiusB> I found a driver for Ubuntu 10.04, but it comes in ".patch".  My question is how do I apply it???
[04:50] <kantlivelong> paulus68: yeah i know :/
[04:50] <TuxBlackEdo> actually
[04:50] <TuxBlackEdo> can i just edit the xstartup file to show a desktop with just the icons on the desktop? no menu/no right click/ etc
[04:51] <ernie_> is the Precise Pangolin RC out yet?
[04:52] <twas6263> Can anybody help me on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+question/194179
[04:54] <wifioregon> okay. SO the instructions to install by flash are ridiculous. Why on earth don't they have an executable install?  Can I just install with apt-get somehow?
[04:54] <bazhang> !12.04 | ernie_
[04:54] <wifioregon> I meant the instructions to install flash by adobe
[04:54] <ernie_> thanks
[04:54] <ernie_> how do you "buzz" someone in irc?
[04:55] <ernie_> i never use irc (clearly)
[04:55] <ejo> Help! On Ubuntu 11.10, FF's font preference dialogs don't show DejaVu Sans Condensed -- or any other narrow or condensed font -- though they are definitely installed in my system. A web search indicates it's been an unsolved problem for years with all non-GTK apps. I'm merely looking for a manual config edit fix that I could perform, and can't even find info on that.
[04:55] <wifioregon> So there isnt an easy way to upgrade flash??? All my browsers are giving errors..it happened out of nowhere
[04:55] <wifioregon> saying I need to upgrade
[04:55] <wifioregon> and the instructions are freaking insane
[04:56] <wifioregon> isnt there an alternative flash?
[04:56] <ejo> have you tried just updating to latest package information in update manager?
[04:56] <wifioregon> yes
[04:56] <ejo> forgive me, I could have assumed that but didn't want to assume.
[04:56] <wifioregon> and I tried restarting browser
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> wifioregon: i got also troubles with lubuntu and flash recently, crashing
[04:57] <wifioregon> :-(
[04:57] <ThadiusB> is there an easy way to apply a .patch file w/o compiling??
[04:57] <wylde> ThadiusB: nope.
[04:57] <ThadiusB> would ndiswrapper be an alternative, using same drivers but for xp?
[04:57] <wifioregon> its just saying I need to upgrade
[04:58] <wylde> ThadiusB: I honestly don't know, I've never had to use it.
[04:58] <wifioregon> Would upgrading to the Beta release fix this?
[04:58] <ThadiusB> thanks wylde, i finally found my drivers for 10.04 but its .patch and i have no idea how to apply that
[04:59] <wylde> ThadiusB: you'll nedd the source of the driver and your patch file. Instructions SHOULD be on the site you got the patch from.
[05:00] <ThadiusB> @wylde, I dont think they were to concerned with apply the patch, i was lucky i got the .patch at all, its for a pci-e parallel port, not in the highest demand
[05:00] <ThadiusB> applying*
[05:01] <wylde> ThadiusB: what exactly are you wanting to install?
[05:01] <ThadiusB> i have a StarTech pci-e parallel card, Oxford chipset, and it lists it, but i'm not getting anything out from it.
[05:01] <wylde> ThadiusB: by the sound of the device that may very well be a kernel patch. Lots can go wrong with kernel compiles and it's definately not recommended to do on ubuntu, if I recall correctly.
[05:02] <wylde> ThadiusB: hmmm, doesn't sound like a popular piece of equipment, otherwise I suggest looking at compatability with newer ubuntu kernels.
[05:03] <ThadiusB> wylde: worst that could happen is i'd have to reinstall aye?
[05:03] <ejo> I *desperately* want to use DejaVu Sans Condensed as my default sans font in Firefox, and it refuses to recognize that this font is installed.
[05:03] <ThadiusB> its not popular, i need it to connect my computer to my cnc machine
[05:03] <vicky_> Hi all. Why libhid package is not available in ubuntu11.10?
[05:03] <ejo> It's pretty much the only comfortably readable font I can find that won't waste so much horizontal space.
[05:03] <wylde> ThadiusB: yeah, well at least repair GRUB, it wants to set the newest kernel as default
[05:04] <ThadiusB> my knowledge base of ubuntu is extremely limited
[05:04] <ThadiusB> so i have no idea what to do
[05:04] <ShadowFios> i also am in need of help
[05:05] <ThadiusB> is there nothing i can do with the .patch file they gave me on their drivers page?
[05:05] <wylde> !find mingw32
[05:05] <ShadowFios> i am downloading the new ubuntu 11
[05:05] <wylde> ThadiusB: then I definately would not reccomend you do a custom kernel compile
[05:06] <ThadiusB> wylde: nothing else i can do aye?
[05:06] <ShadowFios> and the next step says i have to create a usb drive
[05:06] <wylde> ThadiusB: not that I know of, but that's far from definitive. heh. You could keep asking in here, and have you hit up the forums or askubuntu?
[05:07] <ShadowFios> but i pluggeed in my usb stick and its icon popped up on the desktop
[05:07] <ShadowFios> do i still need to 'create' a usb drive?
[05:07] <ThadiusB> first place i thought i'd start wylde, since i'm sitting here looking at 3k worth of equipment and realizing software is holding me up
[05:07] <ThadiusB> havent been to the forums or askubuntu yet
[05:07] <wylde> vicky_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/937859/ <--- I believe some of those packages will provide that lib.
[05:08] <twas6263> ShadowFios : No u don't need to create another
[05:08] <ShadowFios> thank twas6263
[05:09] <wylde> ThadiusB: so the company that provides the equipment only provides a patch for their driver?
[05:09] <twas6263> ShadowFios : I assume u are installing ubuntu 11.10 via a bootable usb
[05:09] <ThadiusB> wylde, thats all i found in the .zip file
[05:09] <vicky_> sorry.I am a gentoo guy.what to do with that text?
[05:10] <wylde> ThadiusB: dang :( Maybe search the forums to compile the driver as a module. Best I can think of, we're pushing my knowledge here too. :)
[05:11] <ThadiusB> well i greatly appreciate all you could offer wylde
[05:11] <wylde> vicky_: that is a list of packages that supply the libhid.a library you asked about.
[05:11] <ThadiusB> got some friends in our cnc channel looking at it too
[05:11] <vicky_> how to install it through apt-get ?
[05:12] <wylde> vicky_: yes 'apt-get install whichever-file-suits-your-arch'
[05:13] <wylde> vicky_: handy tool for finding libs is apt-file :)
[05:13] <wylde> !info apt-file
[05:13] <vicky_> but apt-cache search libhid returns nothing even after apt-get update
[05:14] <JFerrell> Vicky, have you tried running apt-get upgrade   first?
[05:14] <wylde> vicky_: yes because it's a library that's part of another package. There is no package that's just libhid
[05:15] <vicky_> but it was availabe with 10.04
[05:15] <ThadiusB> hey wylde, i think i might have found the problem if you could give me a lil help
[05:16] <wylde> ThadiusB: if I can, sure
[05:17] <ThadiusB> the post i read says that the program i want to use with the parallel port needs to unload linux kernal module paraport_pc
[05:17] <TuxBlackEdo> how do I make the window smaller in ~/.vnc/xstartup ?
[05:17] <wylde> ThadiusB: ahh ok, so you need to u nload that module and blacklist it.
[05:17] <TuxBlackEdo> changing "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10" doesnt change anything
[05:18] <ThadiusB> wylde: heres the article with exactly what i have going on........ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8829820/finding-memory-address-of-a-parallel-port-on-linux
[05:18] <ThadiusB> if you dont mind could you look over it, brb
[05:18] <wylde> ThadiusB: sure
[05:19] <ThadiusB> ty wylde, and back
[05:20] <jjku> hello!
[05:20] <jjku> is this the ubuntu channel support?
[05:21] <wylde> jjku: yep
[05:21] <jjku> it's my first time in irrsi, I hope I typed good
[05:21] <jjku> how can I start the mous
[05:21] <jjku> mouse in console?
[05:22] <jjku> I need to copy a big code from ctrl+F2 in ctrl+F1
[05:22] <ThadiusB> anything making sense wylde??
[05:22] <onoez_omg> is there any "proper" way to get the latest 3.x kernels for natty constantly? i'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924905
[05:23] <jjku> and... how can I " man calmav"?
[05:23] <superlinux-hp> hi. my network wireless card on my laptop times out the connection after a long uptime. if i reboot everything goes back to normal. what should I do in this regard?
[05:24] <wylde> ThadiusB: well it does seem to make sense about killing the parport module, but I don't know what module you'll need to load? unless unloading and blacklisting parport, then rebooting did the trick.
[05:24] <onoez_omg> superlinux-hp, could u please show ur `dmesg` ?
[05:24] <ThadiusB> wylde, from what i'm gathering, linuxcnc has it "built in??"
[05:25] <TuxBlackEdo> how do i change my window size for my ~/.vnc/xstartup? it's at 1024x768, but when i look in the xstartup file i see "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10"
[05:25] <wylde> ThadiusB: I have no idea :/ but if that's the case blacklisting the other module should leave the device free to be detected properly.
[05:26] <wylde> !patience | TuxBlackEdo
[05:26] <gtmanfred> Jordan_U: hmm, yeah i tried doing that grub-install, now I am just hanging at kernel /grub/core.img
[05:26] <ThadiusB> wylde, could you explain, or link how to blacklist it?
[05:27] <superlinux-hp> onoez_omg, http://pastebin.com/JidTZpve
[05:27] <onoez_omg> ThadiusB, /etc/modprobe.d/ there are blacklist* configuration files that contain blacklisted modules
[05:27] <wylde> !blacklist | ThadiusB
[05:27] <jjku> how can I start a antivirus scan (clam) to /media/WinSys from console?
[05:29] <ThadiusB> read something about "rmmod"?? to remove the module?
[05:30] <onoez_omg> superlinux-hp, please, try to save one after the problem appears, also u could probably try to make `rmmod iwlwifi` and `modprobe iwlwifi` after that, it will make things more clear
[05:30] <ThadiusB> actually it says use rmmod to remove all modules connected to paraport_pc
[05:30] <superlinux-hp> ok
[05:30] <superlinux-hp> this means i have to disconnect
[05:31] <onoez_omg> yeah probably
[05:31] <superlinux-hp> or let me use my eth0 as another route
[05:31] <superlinux-hp> just a min
[05:31] <onoez_omg> i've never touched with intel centino wireless devices before though
[05:31] <hookem> Newbie here. Can someone please help me install Ubuntu to hard drive?
[05:32] <ThadiusB> if i have 'no write permission" i need to log as root and set it?
[05:32] <wylde> ThadiusB: depends, are you updating the blacklist?
[05:33] <onoez_omg> ThadiusB, if u will blacklist it just as it was suggested, it wont load after reboot, u need root privs in most cases when u touch system configuration
[05:33] <wylde> ThadiusB: you can do 'gksu gedit /path/to/file' for root privs.
[05:34] <onoez_omg> is there any "proper" way to get the latest 3.x kernels for natty constantly (some ppa or idk lol)? i'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924905
[05:34] <wylde> ThadiusB: always use gksu or gksudo when starting gui apps with root privs though. Save sudo for command line only applications. :)
[05:34] <ThadiusB> ok, thanks
[05:36] <ThadiusB> wow, talk about feeling like a goober
[05:37] <wylde> oh?
[05:37] <ThadiusB> in my readme file for linuxcnc, it says "remove the # below to prevent linux programs from using the parallel port"
[05:38] <wylde> bahahahahaha! >.< hehe
[05:38] <ThadiusB> and has "#install parport_pc /bin/true
[05:38] <ThadiusB> so once i delete that #, all should be good lol
[05:39] <wylde> ThadiusB: that's how they make sure you *cough*RTFM*cough*
[05:39] <milamber> hookem: do you have a specific question?
[05:39] <ThadiusB> ya, indeed
[05:39] <ThadiusB> i cant see the forest for all the trees sometimes :)
[05:39] <wylde> :)
[05:39] <ThadiusB> lemme see if this works
[05:39] <ThadiusB> brb, rebooting
[05:40] <hookem> milamber: I have a 1TB drive. I created a 250GB ext4. Then I clicked on Installer.  It is asking me for a root? thanks
[05:40] <vexaxv> hey guys whats up with minecraft bein so slow
[05:40] <vexaxv> on openjdk 6
[05:41] <milamber> hookem: you should be able to look at your partitions and select the ext4
[05:47] <hookem> milamber: I selected the ext4 partition, but Error message tells me "no root system is identified. Please correct this from the Partition menu" but I don't know where to find that
[05:47] <wylde> onoez_omg: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11177736 ?
[05:48] <onoez_omg> wylde, thx
[05:48] <ThadiusB> and still nothing
[05:48] <ThadiusB> dammit lol
[05:48] <wylde> ThadiusB: boo!
[05:49] <ThadiusB> still havent tried adding paraport_pc to blacklist
[05:49] <onoez_omg> wylde, any ideas why there is no newer images after adding and synching with their ppa?
[05:49] <onoez_omg> =)
[05:50] <wylde> ThadiusB: beyond the blacklist I have no idea :(
[05:50] <ThadiusB> when i add to blacklist do i need to reboot for it to take affect?
[05:50] <wylde> onoez_omg: ... because there aren't any ... hmm.
[05:50] <Ashtray777> I have an ext4 partition that I would like to re-assign as my home directory.  Is this possible to do without re-installing?
[05:51] <hookem> how do I join another channel?
[05:51] <darbe> I have upgrade error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/937874/
[05:51] <bmonkj> hookem, type /join #channelname
[05:51] <ThadiusB>  /join #channelname
[05:51] <hookem> where do I type that? thanks
[05:51] <redact3d> has anyone had a play with up-side-down-ternet on 11.10? i have followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upside-Down-TernetHowTo) but it doesn't work
[05:51] <wylde> Ashtray777: yes, rename your current home dir and mount the new partition to /home then copy your old users home to the new home.
[05:52] <ThadiusB> rebooting, fingers crossed
[05:53] <Ashtray777> oh.  that sounds much easier than i expected.  Thank you again wylde
[05:53] <hookem> bmonkj: where do I type that? thanks
[05:53] <bmonkj> hookem, where you write...
[05:53] <wylde> Ashtray777: no problem, don't delete the old home directory until you're sure everything is working right though. Even do a reboot before you delete anything.
[05:54] <Ashtray777> wylde, u helped me a few weeks ago as well.  are u a volunteer?
[05:54] <onoez_omg> and i have another question, is there fine "gnome classic" fallback in 12.04 without unity side panel and other mess? btw i'm running a laptom with nvidia optimus and it can become a problem i suppose
[05:54] <wylde> Ashtray777: yep, I have far too much time on my hands is all :)
[05:54] <bmonkj> redact3d, are you sure you redirect your http traffic thru your proxy?
[05:54] <Ashtray777> damn.  thank god for that!
[05:55] <hookem> thanks. Can anyone tell me why Installer Error message tells me "no root system is identified. Please correct this from the Partition menu" but I don't know where to find that
[05:55] <wylde> onoez_omg: gnome-fallback isn't bad, not quite gnome2 but very similar. There are other options though like xfce4 or lxde
[05:55] <Ashtray777> ttyl wylde hard to type on my tablet.  ty again.  peace
[05:55] <redact3d> bmonkj, i am testing localling atm i have manually set my browser to use squid and the internet works but for some reason it appears flip.pl is not working
[05:56] <onoez_omg> wylde, thanks, i'll give it a try on virtualbox in case
[05:56] <darbe> no idea http://paste.ubuntu.com/937874/
[05:57] <wylde> onoez_omg: yeah, with a little work you can make xfce look and feel like gnome2.
[05:57] <bmonkj> redact3d, I assume you know for sure perl is installed and working?
[05:58] <redact3d> bmonkj, yep
[05:58] <MrBushido> does anybody know a good book/reference that includes information on writing and using shared libraries? i know little about them other than the concept so a thorough guide with potential pitfalls etc would be great.
[05:59] <wylde> !ot | MrBushido
[06:00] <wylde> MrBushido: channels like #c++ or others may be more helpful for that.
[06:00] <brien> Yo. Im not trying to be dick or anything, but Im super new to IRC
[06:00] <MrBushido> sadly not, hence my hope that the popularity of this channel might assist me
[06:00] <Num83rGuy> Would a bad graphics card cause X to freeze (sometimes taking the kernel with it) ? Just lock up no glitching untill I force a reset.
[06:00] <brien> Is this the right place to ask questions?
[06:01] <Num83rGuy> brien Yes it is.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Num83rGuy: is it on a netbook?
[06:01] <brien> Thanks Num83rGuy
[06:01] <Num83rGuy> No Desktop lotuspsychje
[06:01] <redact3d> bmonkj, also just tested mogrify and that appears to work fine
[06:01] <ApocGoD> brien, how can we help you?
[06:01] <brien> Well Im not exactly new to Linux, but I am new to IRC
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Num83rGuy: i had similar freeze on a netbook, i had to enable 'network boot' in bios to fix
[06:02] <brien> What's the purpose of this chatroom?
[06:02] <Num83rGuy> It has done this across two versions 11.10, 12.04
[06:02] <brien> (is that what's it's called? chatroom?)
[06:03] <onoez_omg> brien, `/topic`
[06:03] <brien> What does that mean, onoz_omg?
[06:03] <ThadiusB> blah
[06:03] <brien> Alright
[06:03] <Num83rGuy> lotuspsychje: So it might be the ACPI or power management whatever it is.
[06:03] <brien> I understand now sorry dude
[06:04] <Num83rGuy> I will have to give that another try.
[06:04] <brien> So what do you guys do when the cpu of your laptop doesn't support hardware frequency scaling?
[06:05] <brien> Because I have an Atom 330 and it's a BITCH
[06:05] <wylde> !language | brien
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Num83rGuy: whats Os did come default on your desktop?
[06:05] <brien> woah okay
[06:05] <brien> sorry
[06:05] <brien> I'll keep it PG
[06:05] <wylde> brien: thanks :)
[06:05] <brien> Sorry man I'm just new with this whole IRC thing
[06:05] <slikts> WTF, why doesn't Alt+F2 work, and why is "show the run command prompt" greyed out in Keyboard settings!
[06:06] <brien> I'm a 4chan resident :c
[06:06] <bmonkj> redact3d, I can't help you then, I'm sure its working under normal circumstances, I would ask you to try a from a natted computer as the script was intended
[06:06] <Num83rGuy> lotuspsychje: None :) all home built. Just the way I like it.
[06:06] <wylde> all good, keep in mind this is the support channel, general chat is over in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:06] <brien> but really, language aside, does anyone have a solution to the lack of hardware scaling in Intel Atom 330 cpus?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Num83rGuy: would be interesting to mess with BIOS a bit, maybe u can solve
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> or looking at logs
[06:07] <redact3d> bmonkj, just setting up an lts vm to go from fresh in case my existing apache conf is breaking it.. cheers for you help!
[06:08] <bmonkj> redact3d, one more thing, do you have localhost in your /etc/squid/squid.conf?
[06:08] <brien> No tips? I'm using an Asus 1201n eeePC
[06:08] <Num83rGuy> lotuspsychje: As much as I hate it you are probably right. Might as well turn off everything non-essential when my new graphics card comes in Tuesday.
[06:08] <brien> it's a huge pain that it wont scale the cpu freqs
[06:08] <onoez_omg> brien, i suspect there is none
[06:08] <brien> get super hot
[06:08] <brien> thanks for the input onoez
[06:09] <onoez_omg> np =)
[06:09] <redact3d> bmonkj, yeah and localnet. as i said i can get out through the proxy it just doesn't store images for some reason
[06:09] <Num83rGuy> lotuspsychje: Thanks. Some times bouncing ideas helps me think things out.
[06:09] <brien> How should I proceed? Windows isn't an option
[06:10] <slikts> brien: tits or gtfo
[06:10] <brien> Why do you think I have tits :c?
[06:10] <onoez_omg> brien, imho choosing atom is a bad idea in almost all cases, there were times when ppl were looking carefully at hardware specs looking for future linux instance running on it
[06:10] <brien> Yeah I think you're right, onoez
[06:11] <brien> It's a shame. I have this hardware regardless of choice
[06:11] <brien> It would be nice to find a distro that could make decent use of it
[06:11] <onoez_omg> there is always a choice
[06:11] <brien> Yeah there's a choice.
[06:12] <brien> I could make this viable machine into landfill fodder
[06:12] <brien> or I could find some sort of solution to this dumb problem.
[06:12] <brien> See what I'm saying?
[06:12] <onoez_omg> i know a guy whos using eee 900 as a router with 1+ year uptime
[06:12] <brien> Hmm
[06:13] <brien> alright, router is an option
[06:13] <brien> Anything really is a option
[06:13] <brien> execpt trash or windows
[06:13] <brien> why did asus make these terrible eeepc machines?
[06:14] <onoez_omg> as for me, there were two nice machines 900 and 901
[06:15] <brien> I haven't had the pleasure of using those two, onoez
[06:15] <brien> Alright, Quick question; why are some names in different colors?
[06:15] <brien> I noticed it already with slikts and onez_omg, but only sometimes
[06:16] <brien> Is it a personal message? meant only for me and invisible to others?
[06:17] <brien> Come on you guys
[06:17] <brien> simple question
[06:17] <Jaye_Falcon> I don't understand this xchat...
[06:17] <slikts> brien: gb2/4chan
[06:17] <brien> I'm using irssi, and sometimes your names are yllow instead of white
[06:17] <slikts> because we mention your handle, fool
[06:18] <brien> Alright mang. Thanks for the awesome community and outstreched welcoming arms
[06:18] <brien> I love linux
[06:18] <brien> But really. Thanks for answering my question.
[06:19] <jesfre> @Jaye_Falcon, what do you mean? What are you unsure of?
[06:19] <slikts> brien: no welcome
[06:19] <brien> What are you doing here slikts?
[06:19] <brien> I'm real curious
[06:20] <slikts> I'm the head of HR
[06:20] <brien> If you want to be a pointless pendant why aren't you trolling the arch forums?
[06:20] <slikts> noobs need to be combated everywhere
[06:20] <Jaye_Falcon> How to join the Actually server I want to
[06:20] <brien> You tell me to gb24chan but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
[06:21] <slikts> yes, I have no idea what you're talking about
[06:21] <xufan> #openbrd
[06:21] <brien> Yeah I'm an irc noob but I know better to act big on a mother crunching ubuntu forum
[06:22] <jesfre> @Jaye_Falcon, type either "/j [#channel]" or "/join [#channel]" without the brackets.
[06:22] <brien> Anyway.
[06:22] <slikts> brien: I thought people from 4chan knew trolling
[06:22] <onoez_omg> u can try to tell the same cool story at #slackware for example, just an option for ur personal etertaining
[06:22] <Jaye_Falcon> No, I need to get to coldfront.
[06:22] <Jaye_Falcon> It's irc.coldfront.net
[06:23] <brien> You were decent enough to answer my question before. Maybe, slikts, you can tell me how to block you on irc?
[06:23] <jesfre> I see. go to xchat at the top and choose network list.
[06:23] <slikts> brien: /ignore slikts
[06:23] <brien> yo thanks
[06:23] <slikts> no welcome
[06:23] <brien> I wont actually ignore you, but when real jerks appear I know how.
[06:23] <brien> "no thanks"
[06:24] <Jaye_Falcon> I type in irc.coldfront.net but and click connect, but it isn't going through...
[06:25] <blackr00tsys> check
[06:25] <brien> check?
[06:25] <jesfre> be sure to hit enter. That first screen you get is the name of the network, you'll want to click edit to put the address in.
[06:25] <blackr00tsys> ping
[06:25] <brien> pong
[06:26] <blackr00tsys> can i ask something sir
[06:26] <blackr00tsys> ??
[06:26] <brien> Go ahead
[06:26] <brien> Its better than waiting in silence to recieve an answer for no reason
[06:27] <Jaye_Falcon> It works!
[06:27] <brien> It does
[06:27] <brien> What is everyone's favorite food?
[06:27] <Jaye_Falcon> Thank you, very much.
[06:27] <jesfre> awesome, I'm glad. :)
[06:27] <Zenger> Hi guys, accidentally did sudo chmod 777 /
[06:27] <jesfre> Have fun!
[06:27] <Zenger> it yelled privs open and so one
[06:27] <brien> TELL ME YOUR FAVORITE FOOD
[06:27] <Zenger> tried to do chmod 755
[06:27] <the_legend> i like risotto!!!!
[06:27] <Paul_Su> hello~
[06:27] <Zenger> locked the whole pc down :D
[06:28] <ThadiusB> <--- utterly defeated lol
[06:28] <brien> Risotto
[06:28] <brien> is good
[06:28] <Paul_Su> Hi all
[06:28] <brien> yes
[06:28] <Zenger> What would be the correct chmod to the whole system folder ?
[06:28] <brien> Best food: white anchovies
[06:28] <blackr00tsys> chmod
[06:28] <Paul_Su> 有人说话吗？
[06:28] <brien> correct chmod +anchovies
[06:28] <the_legend> never had them??
[06:28] <jesfre> @Zenger, have you tried Googling the fix?
[06:28] <brien> Yes
[06:28] <Zenger> jesfre: now I'm a moron.
[06:28] <brien> bocerones
[06:29] <Zenger> jesfre: I'm in a search just now , but tried to ask you guys too
[06:29] <leo_> how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.04
[06:30] <jesfre> @zenger, it's all good. we all make mistakes at times. For me, it was thinking VMing Ubuntu on a 7 year old Max was a great idea.
[06:30] <jesfre> Mac*
[06:30] <blackr00tsys> sir i want to asking about how upgrade os from 11.10 to 12.04
[06:30] <brien> Who are the admins of this ircthing?
[06:30] <leo_> how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.04
[06:30] <brien> balckr00tsys, has the upgrade too not work for you?
[06:30] <the_legend> lol i am not sure but i know if your being an idiot you will get kicked
[06:31] <jesfre> @Brien, no idea.
[06:31] <Zenger> jesfre: Still , google doesn't seem to help me a lot , in fact besides "chomd 777 chmod" I have no ideea what to search for  :D
[06:31] <milamber> hookem: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome
[06:31] <brien> blackroot, tell me, what have you tried?
[06:31] <jesfre> @blackr00tsys, give me a moment, let me try and find an answer.
[06:32] <blackr00tsys> ok @jesfre
[06:32] <brien> I have had no problems with the update-manager to upgrade ubuntu versions
[06:32] <brien> maybe I'm just lucky
[06:32] <leo_> how to reduce the width of the slide panel of gedit under ubuntu12.04
[06:32] <jesfre> @zenger, I've got no idea, either. :( I'll try and help, though.
[06:33] <jesfre> @blackr00tsys, try this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[06:33] <brien> leo_: not trying to be a jerk, but have you tried gVim instead?
[06:33] <jesfre> The first paragraph should point you in the right direction.
[06:33] <brien> gedit is pretty bad
[06:33] <leo_> No, i'll try it,thanks
[06:34] <brien> It's a totally different editor
[06:34] <brien> but it's really nice once you get used to it
[06:34] <brien> plus, it's available in console form everywhere, called "vim"
[06:35] <brien> ssh into some random linux server, vim will be available
[06:35] <brien> if you are used to it, you will ve right at home
[06:35] <blackr00tsys> mr admin i will ask about my playonlinux
[06:35] <brien> Im not an admin
[06:35] <brien> who are you talking to?
[06:35] <coder2> Hello. Please help me with resolv.conf - it becomes empty after boot. I've specified dns-nameservers in the /etc/network/interfaces. After ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 resolv.conf become normal, but why it is empty right after boot? My ubuntu bersion is 11.10. Network manager is not installed.
[06:35] <Zenger> btw as I'm here, suggest me a good text-editor with small IDE capabilities, mainly for PHP, js , css and sometimes C++ (i'm ok compiling by console , i'm look just syntax and tips) . I want to stay out of VIM, EMACS, Eclipse (or any other heavy IDE (I USE already phpStorm)) .What are the options (besides KOMODO/Geany/Kate/Gedit/jEdit/Bluefish)
[06:36] <brien> Besides what you listed, Zenger?
[06:36] <blackr00tsys> @brien my play on linux its not working correctly...how to fix it ?
[06:36] <jesfre> @zenger,  are you able to get into your files, but they have full permissions?
[06:36] <brien> is there anything really left. Geany is the best option, but you ruled it out
[06:37] <brien> @black. Sorry dude I dont use playonlinux
[06:37] <brien> that's a wine layer, right?
[06:37] <blackr00tsys> okay...
[06:37] <brien> I know a little about it
[06:37] <brien> Just let us know what's wrong
[06:37] <Zenger> brien: yep
[06:37] <blackr00tsys> for game only i want try game counter strikes like on win****
[06:38] <rogst> Zenger: Codelite
[06:38] <Zenger> jesfre: I'm not sure
[06:38] <Zenger> jesfre: I gave 777 to whole /
[06:38] <brien> Zenger: sorry my friend but you ruled out some of the best editors.
[06:38] <Zenger> jesfre: the I gave it 755 /
[06:38] <ShadowFios> hello
[06:38] <Zenger> brien: I adore geany, but it doesn't have a tag matching system
[06:38] <ShadowFios> i am trying to update an acient ubuntu 8
[06:39] <jesfre> @Zenger, uhhh.... I have no idea. :x
[06:39] <Rud> Zenger: kdevelop das php and c++ pretty well.
[06:39] <ShadowFios> to ubuntu 11 on a flah drive
[06:39] <Zenger> Rud: Ubuntu (XFCE) , will it blend ?
[06:39] <brien> Zenger: I'm not a super experienced geany user, but are you sure there's no extension or something for it? if not, have you looked into vim again?
[06:39] <Rud> Zenger: "blend"?
[06:40] <jesfre> @zenger, I know 777 changes the permissions of the file file to read, write, and execute for all.
[06:40] <ShadowFios> i have rebooted multiple times but the prompt ubuntu describes dosent appear
[06:40] <ShadowFios> i have even done the f12 boot option set to usb
[06:40] <Zenger> Rud: I mean will it work on XFCE ? It will pull the whole KDE stuff by itself? because I assume K stands for KDE
[06:40] <ShadowFios> still runs ubuntu 8
[06:40] <CamC> hi, I asked this a while ago but had to leave before I could understand the answer... how can I upgrade mono from 2.4.4 to 2.10 on ubuntu 10.4 please??
[06:40] <Rud> Zenger: yes, it uses "kde stuff"
[06:40] <brien> Zenger: not to pry, but dude, really? Why shy away from vim/emacs?
[06:41] <Zenger> brien: I'm not into vim, I can't force myself learn the whole binds and it drives me crazy.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> are there known issues on lubuntu crashing adobe flash recently?
[06:41] <Zenger> Rud: Gonna check it out.
[06:41] <ShadowFios> what can i do to update
[06:41] <Zenger> jesfre: yes, but then the pc yells at me , because I have writing privs. It drives me nuts
[06:42] <Zenger> rogst: Codelite doesn't seem to have a PHP syntax support.
[06:42] <Rud> Zenger: more lightweight, but only covering your C++ needs would be qt creator. that does not depend on "kde stuff"
[06:42] <jesfre> @zenger: Oh man, that stinks. Sorry, man I don't know permissions that well. Yet.
[06:42] <blackr00tsys> sir
[06:42] <brien> :Zengrer fair enough. You're gonna hear this more than once, and you probably heard it enough already... However: If you spend a lot of time crankin code into the ol lighnin box, ya should learn a proper way of doin it.
[06:43] <brien> Zenger: Seriously. A few hours of learnin will save ya years of headaches
[06:43] <ShadowFios> has anyone had experience updating ubuntu 8 to 11
[06:43] <Zenger> jesfre: I assume I'd have to bash to 777 and then just use the default user as root. I don't want to install because I have some data that is located on the same drive as ubuntu and on formating I would loose everything (
[06:43] <ulziibuyan> anyone knows how can i output csv in utf-8 encoding with `soffice --convert-to` command?
[06:43] <jesfre> @zenger: sad day
[06:44] <Rud> brien: handling large c++ project, perhaps  without fully knowing the code base, is a pain without a proper code model in the back
[06:44] <Zenger> brien: Show me the best tutorial you can give me. That will save my ass when working with vim. I've tried vim not 1, not 2 , but hell of a lot times. And it never helped.
[06:45] <ShadowFios> hello?
[06:45] <Zenger> Rud: I would use QT only when I need the qt library, unfortunately QT doesn't have nor color themes nor php support (from which my job depends) :D
[06:45] <ulziibuyan> the problem is `soffice --convert-to csv` loses all international characters.
[06:45] <brien> :Rud that can be accomplished without ecplipse or codeblocks or whatever
[06:45] <Rud> brien: vim + clang for code completion is not bad for editing, but not exactly for "project" handling
[06:45] <ShadowFios> meep
[06:46] <Rud> brien: "real" code models
[06:46] <Zenger> Rud: That's the whole point, I don't quite seek for a project oriented IDE
[06:46] <brien> Rud: Not trying to step on any toes here, but I have worked in "real" project before.
[06:46] <Zenger> Rud: for that I use phpStorm and CDT for C++
[06:46] <Rud> Zenger: if you want to edit text files, vim and emacs is fine
[06:47] <brien> Rud: Zenger: that's exactly what he wants to do
[06:47] <brien> What do you think coding is?
[06:47] <ShadowFios> where one go to get help on updating os version
[06:47] <Zenger> Rud: no they are not, I'm used with gui tools and I'm not comfortable with them. I'm trying to learn them , but nobody seems to have a clue where to start properly except the readme of vim :D
[06:47] <Rud> brien: it's not just typing code, it's also understanding the code, getting the context, debugging, deploying
[06:47] <Zenger> Rud: I got to mention thou, Kdevelop seems preatty neat.
[06:48] <brien> Zenger: Sorry for not having a proper answer for you. A lot of learning a text editor like vim or emacs takes experiences
[06:48] <Zenger> brien: besides , does vim has support for xdebug (for php) ?
[06:48] <Zenger> brien: now you understand why there are so many people who can't learn vim
[06:49] <brien> Zenger: however, as one who has had experience with both, I don't really reccommend emacs. Vim may have a learning curve, but it easy.
[06:49] <Zenger> brien: I would be delighted to learn vim and use it the way you describe it to be. But the plain readme and some stupid youtube videos won't help me.
[06:49] <ApocGoD> Anyone know where I could go for some information on PHP?
[06:49] <fidel> ApocGoD: maybe #php?
[06:49] <moonman> zenger you can use "e" text editor but you should compile it
[06:49] <brien> Zenger: Sorry I've never had to code php professionally
[06:50] <MechanisM> hello guys!. who eats more resources unity or unity 2d?
[06:50] <ulziibuyan> ApocGod: php.net
[06:50] <Zenger> brien: what for do you use vim then ?
[06:50] <ApocGoD> Thanks.
[06:50] <erkon> When ever I boot with usb mouse pluged in it takes like a 3 min ubuntu to load.If I boot with no usb plugged in then the boot time is fast.Why this is happening?
[06:51] <brien> Zenger: I work for garmin, intl. the department I work for uses git and C++
[06:51] <Zenger> moonman: hm , good ideea, I could try that . thank you
[06:51] <brien> vim is quite nice for tiat
[06:51] <slikts> vim is for gits
[06:51] <slikts> just kidding, I use it
[06:51] <brien> yay slikts is back
[06:51] <slikts> therefore it can't be for gits
[06:51] <Rud> brien: eclipse is java at heart. it's super slow for c++, and the code model takes ages to build and is not kept up-to-date as-you-type. it "works", but...
[06:51] <fidel> erkon: it might help so reconfigure your boot process - i assume it currently does not show details but just the ubuntu logo right?
[06:52] <brien> Rud: eclipse is used a lot at my work, too. Even for purely C projects.
[06:52] <Zenger> Rud: I don't do heavy C++ projects, I'm on a simple learing curve, I don't do makefiles or heavy project handling
[06:52] <brien> Rud: I dont know why, but there it is.
[06:52] <Zenger> Rud: I just need code completion a simple project managament, and the compiling I do by console.
[06:52] <erkon> no I see black screen with a cursor in the left top until the logo screen comes up
[06:53] <brien> Zenger: I dont know about php, but for sure vim has C++ code completion
[06:53] <erkon> The same is happening with other linux os for example.with slitaz I can see what is loading and the boot stops and hangs for a long time when it loads usb ohci driver
[06:53] <Zenger> brien: it has for PHP I told you I tried to learn it
[06:54] <brien> Zenger: sorry I wasnt being attentive eough
[06:54] <brien> Zenger: what was the main problem with learning it?
[06:54] <Zenger> jesfre: I'm in a lot of pain now :( , now somehow I've managed to do 766 to the chmod binary , now it won't change the priveleges at all :( I'm screwed :D
[06:54] <Zenger> brien: Were can I start properly learning vim.
[06:54] <brien> Zenger: Even if your answer doesnt help you, it can help point out problems others are having
[06:55] <brien> Zenger: Dude! What are you trying to do? What did you hyst tell jesfre?
[06:55] <slikts> netbeans is nicer than eclipse
[06:56] <Zenger> moonman: but doesn't E cost 50 bucks ? :D
[06:56] <Zenger> slikts: I hate both of them :D
[06:56] <slikts> Zenger: what do you like then?
[06:56] <Zenger> slikts: phpStorm
[06:56] <slikts> lol
[06:56] <slikts> gtfo
[06:56] <brien> Zenger: Not trying to be a dick, but really, what is hard about vim? Just take a couple hours and learn the keybindings
[06:57] <brien> The learning curve is a square wave
[06:57] <Zenger> brien: okay, is there any helpful tutorial you would suggest besides readme.txt ?
[06:57] <jesfre> @zenger: That's no good.
[06:58] <jesfre> @zenger: Can you change permissions on individual files?
[06:58] <brien> Zenger: alright, ya got me, been trying to find a decent intro to vim, can't do it
[06:58] <Zenger> jesfre: 1 moment gonna check that.
[06:58] <brien> Zenger: im assuming complete incompetence
[06:59] <brien> Zenger: again, not tryint to be a dick
[06:59] <CamC> sooo anybody on that can give a little advice about updating mono??
[06:59] <jesfre> @zenger: If you can, you can get your files to a different box or file system, and reset everything.
[06:59] <brien> Zenger: Have you ever heard of Vimperator? Its a firefox extension
[06:59] <jesfre> @Camc: I have no experience in mono, sorry. :(
[06:59] <Zenger> brien: yep, thats what I thought. same here, for many years I'm hearing you guys telling me : "Vim is great, epic , try it" but when I open it  , i'm messed up in visual and normal and "j" "h" "k" keybinds and so on. Tried doing readme. Forogot everything in a few days. :)
[07:00] <CamC> thanks anyway jesfre anybody else??
[07:01] <Zenger> brien: no, and looking by the screenshots I don't think I want it :D
[07:01] <CamC> so far I have found Badgerports, and need to know how to add it as a repository
[07:02] <CamC> via putty shell
[07:02] <Zenger> jesfre: god I hate doing reinstall :( , but I'm gonna have to do it :(
[07:02] <EvilResistance> CamC: PuTTY "shell" is no different from a standard SSH session, last I checked.  What's Badgerports, some other repository you're trying to add to your system?
[07:03] <CamC> yes it is the repository that holds the version that I need, and the directions there only explain from graphic user point
[07:04] <CamC> http://badgerports.org/
[07:05] <CamC> I have found the sources folder /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <brien> yo
[07:05] <CamC> cant find the exact command to add the source
[07:06] <brien> lost connex
[07:06] <Zenger> besides I'm still stuck to the same no Idea what text-editor to try :D (besides learning vim) :D
[07:06] <Blue11> installed new thunderbird from mozilla site, but can't seem to get it to use the default browser.  what gives?  tried the network.handler thing (doesn't exist)
[07:07] <brien> Zenger: sorry for being such a zealot
[07:07] <Blue11> Zenger: gedit or nano
[07:07] <tshelton1232> ok can anyone help me install minecraft on ubuntu 12.04
[07:08] <brien> zenger: the truth of the matter is that altough there might not be any super easy way to get nice an cozy with vim, it really does pay off,
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> nano looks good
[07:08] <tshelton1232> ok can anyone help me install minecraft on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:08] <fidel> tshelton1232: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 things - while i have no idea about minecraft itself & the install instructions
[07:08] <brien> zenger: if you have no long-term relationship with coding in linux, then forget about vim or emacs, and yeah, gedit is good enough.
[07:08] <ojii> how can I connect to a Mac VNC server? all the clients I found in the repositories fail...
[07:08] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: it's very simple to learn -- never could master vi or vim -- I am a weakling I guess
[07:09] <fidel> ojii: sure you enabled vnc support inside the remote-desktop settings of your osx host?
[07:09] <Zenger> brien: I got that, the problem is how to get there. Besides , if moving to a windows machine, gVim won't do the job ?
[07:09] <fidel> otherwise it will fail for sure - always ;)
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Blue11: not all ubuntu users are hardonn cli
[07:09] <ojii> fidel, yes, other mac users can connect
[07:09] <brien> gVim is good
[07:09] <ojii> fidel, from ubuntu: no luck
[07:09] <fidel> ojii: macs dont use vnc itself
[07:09] <ojii> fidel, o.O?
[07:09] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: huh?
[07:09] <brien> gVim is available as a standolone exe install in windows, I believe.
[07:09] <fidel> there is a special option for vnc support inside the remote desktop settings
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Blue11: im more an ubuntu candy user
[07:10] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: ahh
[07:10] <Zenger> Blue11: gedit would be nice if it would have code completion and CTRL + Y working (it won't do forward) :D
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Blue11: many swear by the command line (the hard way)
[07:10] <brien> What is C+Y?
[07:10] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: oh no I use nano regularly -- you mean x forwarding?
[07:10] <ojii> fidel, most clients say they fail because of authentication method not being supported
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Blue11: i mean not all users work with only commandline, i prefer handy tools
[07:11] <fidel> ojii: have you checkeD: VNC viewer may control screen with password ?
[07:11] <fidel> otherwise it will not work
[07:11] <fidel> thats a setting on your mac
[07:11] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: ahh I use mostly commandline
[07:11] <fidel> i stop repeating myself now ;)
[07:11] <ojii> fidel, okay
[07:12] <Blue11> anyone have any idea on what I can try to get thunderbird to use the default browser?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Blue11: but also u like gui stuff?
[07:12] <Zenger> sometimes I just want to kill everything and put windows, just like that :D It wasn't the best but it did the job :D
[07:12] <brien> Zenger: I'll try to answer your main question: No it is not possible to read one tutorial and be completely proficent with Vim. Maybe the learning curve is a bit more gradual than I first said
[07:12] <Blue11> lotuspsychje: priv. message ok?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> sure
[07:12] <brien> Zenger: However, if you can learn the basics (and anyone can) then they gradually lead to more advanced use
[07:12] <fidel> ojii: sys-prefs - sharing -remote management - computer settings
[07:13] <Zenger> brien: maybe maybe.
[07:13] <ojii> fidel, a mac user claims it's enabled
[07:13] <brien> Zenger: because they are all based on the same basic ideas of use
[07:13] <Zenger> The problem is at the moment I can't give some of my time to learn vim , I just can't, maybe in a few days I will
[07:14] <brien> Zenger: maybe it's not worth your while. I dont know. but my time with vim has made editting with it second nature. I use a firefox extension to make mybrowsing more like vim
[07:15] <Zenger> brien: I would like to have that same knowledge of vim so it would make my editing seconds.
[07:15] <brien> Zenger: and I'm not alone. It's hard to describe how nice it feels to never move your fingers from the keyboard, and rarely away from homerow. But it's worth it.
[07:15] <ojii> fidel, ah, gtkvncviewer actually can connect!
[07:15] <Zenger> brien: you are not the first one to mention vim, and not the first one to mention vim and php, those who know vim always cheer it
[07:15] <ojii> fidel, but it only shows part of the screen. the mac has 4 displays attached, i can only see one
[07:16] <Zenger> brien: I hope I will make some good use from vim
[07:16] <brien> Zenger: Im sorry I couldnt find a better resource for you to learn it. It may just take some time.
[07:17] <Zenger> brien: ye.. one more question, but why did you throw emacs so fast?
[07:17] <Zenger> people seem to like it and besides if far mor older than vim
[07:17] <Zenger> it's* far more*
[07:18] <brien> Zenger: it's personal opinion.
[07:18] <Zenger> brien: oh, okay
[07:18] <Rud> Zenger: nobody who likes vim touches emacs, and vice versa....
[07:18] <brien> Zenger: emacs is fine, I've tried it, but really, it gets harder the more you learn it
[07:19] <Rud> Zenger: that rule must have been there before computers had been invented
[07:19] <Zenger> Rud: I kind of suspected this trend :D
[07:19] <brien> Zenger: vim is more universial, and frankly, easier, while still being quite powerful.
[07:20] <floppy> ro
[07:20] <blendedbychris> anyone ever encounter this when generating a csr
[07:20] <blendedbychris> http://pastie.textmate.org/private/wl6gh6on5zz00n9b4hhkq
[07:20] <gvandeweyer> Can I list somehow the current kernel configuration on a default ubuntu-server install ?
[07:20] <gvandeweyer> I need to see if some options are enabled
[07:20] <brien> Rud, Zenger: I know it's a holy war or whatever, but in complete honesty, unless you are super hardcore and want to write a bunch of Lisp, Vim > Emacs
[07:20] <jhattara> can i extract a tar without destroying the original and extracting the files into the current folder ?
[07:21] <Rud> Zenger: both vim's direct predecessor (vi) and emacs are from 1976 or so. vi followed ed which is even older
[07:21] <jesfre> guys, there's going to be pros and cons about each editor, and there isn't a perfect one for everyone, because we are all different. :)
[07:21] <brien> No! jesfre! NOOOO!
[07:22] <Rud> brien: I am on the vi(m) side, no worries ;-}
[07:22] <brien> I will make the emacs users pay for what they've done!
[07:22] <DarkSector> How do I route my aptitude/ping traffic through http port
[07:22] <cyborg_> hey i can't  create a  wireless adhoc in my ubuntu 10.04
[07:22] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | brien, i think you're straying a tiny bit into there
[07:23] <brien> Yo no problem ubottu
[07:23] <DarkSector> Also, what is the default apt-get port?
[07:23] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  why do you need to route your traffic via port 80?
[07:23] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: all other ports are blocked on my college net :|
[07:24] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  last i checked, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade both downloaded via HTTP
[07:24] <cyborg_> i am using driver=brcmsmac
[07:24] <salan8a7> hi
[07:24] <EvilResistance> (and if your college net is restricting your traffic in this manner, god help you)
[07:24] <brien> Sorry Rud, let's focus on helping these folks
[07:24] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  what makes you think the apt-get is being blocked?
[07:24] <Zenger> I have never experienced neither Emacs nor vim more than five minutes
[07:24] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: well I can't ping or update, it can't connect to the repository urls
[07:25] <Rud> brien: help emacs folks? never!  ;-)  [sorry, could not resist]
[07:25] <EvilResistance> can you access the internet normally?
[07:25] <brien> Fun fueding though
[07:25] <EvilResistance> (i.e. firefox or something)
[07:25] <brien> hehe
[07:25] <yohann> im having some trouble with grub loader my setup is windows + ubuntu but now i put mac on also on a 25gig hfs+ partition
[07:25] <Zenger> but I will mention vim is way easier to use and understand. That said that is puerly my opinion using both of them just a few moments
[07:25] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: Yeah I am on IRC on firefox
[07:25] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: the thing is, I can connect to the gpg urls on firefox
[07:26] <cyborg_> wireless problem save me my lords
[07:26] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: not through the terminal
[07:26] <cyborg_> save me
[07:26] <jesfre> @darksector: I'm using apt-get to get some packages, and it is going through http... I don't know if that helps.
[07:26] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  apt-get uses HTTP or FTP, depending on what's in /etc/apt/sources.list, which by default is HTTP
[07:26] <EvilResistance> DarkSector: ignoring "ping", can you do apt-get update without problems?
[07:26] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: No, I can't do anything at all, no communication via the terminal
[07:27] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: even after enabling a system wide proxy, this doesn't seem to work
[07:27] <squibby> hi guys; what is the current recommended way to disable avahi-daemon and its minions? it sucks k thx
[07:27] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: can you predict any reasons for this?
[07:28] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  i *think* you're SOL then, the network firewalls might be screening your client/downloader/etc. headers, and saying that if its not a web browser, to reject it, i think you'll have to talk to the help desk at your university or something
[07:28] <DarkSector> oh god
[07:28]  * EvilResistance had this issue at Penn State, but it was a minor issue that was rectified because they screwed up their firewalls
[07:29] <brien> This has been a great first IRC experience
[07:29] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  don't quote me on that "You're SOL" thing though, i'm only speculating (it *is* 3:30 AM here, so... :P)
[07:29] <brien> Been using Linux since 2002. The community has clearly evolved quite a bit.
[07:29] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: That's fine, atleast I have something to work with
[07:31] <DarkSector> EvilResistance: also, anyway to figure out what ports might or might not be blocked on the network? Should I be using a tool like nmap or something?
[07:31] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  that won't detect outgoing port blocks
[07:32] <EvilResistance> DarkSector:  nothing you can do from behind the netowrk, and nothing I'd explain how to do here (because of the ITSec implications)
[07:32] <DarkSector> oh okay
[07:32] <DarkSector> Thanks for your time
[07:38] <Hyperbyte> I have ran into this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/416190  That bug talks about the problem existing in Karmic and Lucid, I'm experiencing it on Natty.  Other than updating the bug, is there anything else I could possibly do to help get this issue resolved without needing programming skills?
[07:39] <osirisx111> hi, anyone know how i can correct a corrupt mjpg mkv video?
[07:43] <vadi2> Is it possible to make the system monitor display more than 60s of history?
[07:44] <sinan> is there a way to get a better-looking application switcher (and workspace switcher) in unity2d?
[07:44] <monotux> ok, what's the easiest way of installing ubuntu on a netbook, withouth the default gnome shell? I'd love to use ubuntu again (currently using debian squeeze which is kinda dated) but the default shell is too slow :/
[07:44] <monotux> is lubuntu the way to go? or ubuntu server?
[07:45] <monotux> i'm using awesome wm normally
[07:45] <EvilResistance> monotux:  xubuntu, lubuntu, either could work, but unity is netbook-inspired, so...
[07:46] <EvilResistance> monotux:  if you want old-style gnome like stuff, from pre-Unity defaults...
[07:46] <zamabe> monotux, dated? lol. debian is a rolling distro. Just update.
[07:46] <EvilResistance> !not-unity | monotux
[07:46] <EvilResistance> oh
[07:46] <EvilResistance> !notunity | monotux
[07:46] <monotux> zamabe: squeeze is the stable distro, which means it gets some updates every 3 rd month or so
[07:46] <monotux> but I need python 2.7 and such
[07:46] <monotux> and installing 2.7 breaks a lot of the system
[07:47] <zamabe> .... what is this i don't even
[07:47] <monotux> EvilResistance: I've used the netbook editing and the new unity thingy, it wastes screenestate and is kinda slow on a low-end netbook
[07:47] <monotux> I use X11 to run chrome/firefox and for getting antialiasing in my emacs
[07:47] <EvilResistance> ah, then try xubuntu or lubuntu.  note othough that ubuntu-server is CLI only, so...
[07:48] <EvilResistance> you shouldn't use ubuntu-server unless you want command-line only
[07:48] <EvilResistance> (probably not what you want ;P)
[07:48] <monotux> well I guess I can install X11 in ubuntu server as well?
[07:48] <monotux> that used to be only a meta-package
[07:48] <monotux> back in the day when ubuntu was brand new ;)
[07:49] <monotux> well I'll probably go for lubuntu 12.04
[07:50] <monotux> i wonder if i can bootstrap a installation from my swap-drive...
[07:50] <ramsrambo> I need help installing Ubuntu 12 Beta 2 with WUBI installer.
[07:50] <newbie_> hi anybody uses quanta?
[07:51] <ramsrambo> After Installing it is  boots up with ubuntu but says unable to locate root files system
[07:52] <ramsrambo> ?????
[08:02] <yooo> Hi
[08:03] <yooo> I was wondering if someone knows why the mysql-client default behaviour is to connect trough socket instead trough localhost tcp connection ?
[08:03] <yooo> I've an Maverick
[08:03] <yooo> Is it hard coded when canonical compiled the sources ?
[08:04] <EvilResistance> yooo:  its likely that's how the mysql people have the code.
[08:04] <EvilResistance> yooo:  you should also be aware that Maverick is EOL, so you will probably need to upgrade soon.
[08:06] <yooo> EvilResistance: actually, I installed the server from the website (mysql.com). I installed the complete bundle (server and client). Then, I wanted to use innotop, and I installed mysql-client-5.1 from offical repo, and the default behaviour of the client changed
[08:06] <EvilResistance> yooo:  don't mix-and-match server/client versions
[08:06] <yooo> I couldn't find any settings justifying this new behaviour in any config files :/
[08:06] <EvilResistance> it'll break things
[08:06] <yooo> EvilResistance: yeah, I know, but i'm using ghosted computers, I can't do anything ^
[08:07] <EvilResistance> yooo:  don't mix-and-match, either use the packages in the repos or use the bundle from the SQL site, not both :P
[08:07] <EvilResistance> breakage occurs
[08:07] <naftilos76> what will it take to install latest evolution 3.4 to ubuntu 10.10?
[08:07] <yooo> EvilResistance: I know that is not very 'clean' way to do, but that is not the point, I'm in MySQL training (the language, not in admin sys)
[08:08] <yooo> I just wanna know where the mysql-client-5.1 default behaviour is set (not in /etc/my.cnf not ~/.my.cnf)
[08:08] <EvilResistance> yooo:  i dont think that's defined anywhere, what's the connection string you're using?
[08:09] <EvilResistance> yooo:  should be something like mysql -u user -h [hostnameOrIP] -p
[08:09] <EvilResistance> or something
[08:09] <fsgxdroid> how to downgrade openssl in ubuntu?
[08:09] <EvilResistance> yooo:  unless you're using a GUI
[08:09] <EvilResistance> fsgxdroid:  first question: why do you need to downgrade?
[08:09] <yooo> When the bundle was installed, I used to execute 'mysql'. Since I installed client from repo, I do need to do 'mysql -h 127.0.0.1'
[08:09] <fsgxdroid> because new version won't cooperate with my case
[08:10] <yooo> Or maybe, the hard coded default behaviour changed from 5.1 to 5.5 ?
[08:10] <EvilResistance> yooo:  not sure, but by default MySQL server listens on 127.0.0.1:port...
[08:10] <EvilResistance> sockets or no sockets, i think
[08:11]  * EvilResistance isnt certain about that thoguh
[08:11] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | fsgxdroid
[08:12] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | fsgxdroid, read this message, or you might get ignored by the person you're privmsging
[08:12]  * EvilResistance doesnt necessarily like random privmsgs :P
[08:12] <yooo> EvilResistance: so that what I though, that a ubuntu package default behaviour, not official behaviuour
[08:13] <fsgxdroid> okey, im using OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[08:13] <EvilResistance> yooo:  i'm not sure how the package is configured, i dont think the client is configured to listen/not listen either way
[08:13] <EvilResistance> yooo:  but i didnt create the .deb, so i dont know
[08:13] <EvilResistance> yooo:  i think default behavior is hardcoded, which is why I said you don't mix-and-match
[08:13] <EvilResistance> (for the *client*)
[08:14] <yooo> EvilResistance: ok ^^
[08:14] <yooo> Just, I like to try strange things :)
[08:14] <fsgxdroid> can somebody with openssl version "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012" test the following command and send me pm with results: "openssl s_client -connect vortex.emt.ee:443"
[08:14] <yooo> Actually, we're 4 in training, and we all have the same behaviour .... maybe that was something like a well known bug or something else
[08:15] <cyborg_> quit
[08:15] <EvilResistance> fsgxdroid:  after my openssl updates, sure (if it ends up with that version)
[08:17] <royk_> which is the bst place to have sex with big boobs girl???
[08:17] <oCean> royk_: wrong channel, don't repeat that here
[08:18] <acicula> fsgxdroid: whats the problem you are experiencing with ssl?
[08:18]  * fsgxdroid still looking persons who has openssl version "1.0.1 14 Mar 2012"
[08:19] <fsgxdroid> acicula: execute command "openssl s_client -connect vortex.emt.ee:443" and pm me results
[08:19] <acicula> fsgxdroid: no i wont, but whats the problem you are having?
[08:20] <fsgxdroid> acicula: im getting following error: http://pastebin.com/GjiR0cd3
[08:20] <fsgxdroid> and i can't connect to my vpn
[08:21] <fsgxdroid> openssl update caused my that problem
[08:21] <fsgxdroid> me*
[08:21] <yooo> fsgxdroid: I would say your client config is not properly set
[08:21] <yooo> I mean, openssl complains about client CA
[08:22] <fsgxdroid> yooo: when i execute " openssl s_client -connect google.com:443" it wont complain
[08:22] <EvilResistance> fsgxdroid:  but Google's SSL CertAuth certs are public and are included in most system CA certs
[08:23] <EvilResistance> !precise | FYI, fsgxdroid
[08:29] <greenit> hi, i just bought the humble bundle, but when i unpack one of the games, there is a *.air format... how can i open this in linux?
[08:32] <linocisco> any body from Germany and poland?
[08:32] <Attie> greenit: try adobe air
[08:32] <greenit> Attie, ok, is there a package in the repos?
[08:33] <linocisco> any body from Germany and poland?
[08:34] <Attie> should be
[08:34] <Attie> its definately avaliable for ubuntu
[08:35] <blek> Hi guys
[08:35] <blek> i have a problem with ubuntu server 11.10, my server reboot anyway
[08:35] <Attie> greenit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11344792
[08:36] <blek> and in the log is all normal, who can help me?
[08:37] <Treyvon> blek It seems I must have liars and villains for opponents. I am not worthy in the sight of God that a godly and honorable person should discuss these matters with me in a Christian way. This is my greatest lament.
[08:37] <Treyvon> From Defense and Explanation of All the Articles, pg. 99 of Luther's Works, Vol. 32
[08:37] <blek> °_°
[08:37] <blek> and?
[08:38] <Treyvon> You do nothing with all your profusion of words but fight a fire with dry straw.
[08:38] <Treyvon> From The Bondage of the Will, pg. 236 of Luther's Works, Vol. 33
[08:38] <blek> asd
[08:38] <linuxuz3r> asl
[08:38] <linuxuz3r> hi
[08:38] <oCean> Treyvon: stop that
[08:39] <Treyvon> oCean Your words are so foolishly and ignorantly composed that I cannot believe you understand them.
[08:39] <Treyvon> From Explanations of the Ninety-Five Theses, pg. 87 of Luther's Works, Vol. 31
[08:39] <CellTech> Exactly what does "Sudo apt-get upgrade" do?
[08:39] <oCean> CellTech: fetches latest packages and performs upgrade
[08:39] <CellTech> How about on xubuntu? Same thing
[08:40] <oCean> sure, that's same
[08:41] <CellTech> I'm doing sudo apt get update then upgrade on my xubuntu system
[08:55] <autoditac> hi. is there a problem with network-manager in current precise? it lost all its submenus like wifi selection and vpn connection initialization.
[08:59] <auronandace> !topic | autoditac
[09:00] <autoditac> auronandace: whoop. thanks - i'll ask there
[09:04] <jamjam> !beowulf
[09:11] <Guest32799> hi
[09:13] <Guest32799> i have some problem in backtrack5 i need to install ATI drive bat
[09:14] <weechat_user>  
[09:17] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938008/ <---- how can i get rid o this warning? i'm worried
[09:17] <nimesh_accenture> Hi guys , I have chrooted ubuntu core 11.10 on top of android kernel 3.01 , Is there a way to check the stability of this chroot?
[09:18] <iceroot> nimesh_accenture: using it
[09:18] <iceroot> nimesh_accenture: or what do you mean with stability?
[09:19] <qqa>  
[09:22] <coolroot> anyone!?
[09:22] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938008/ <---- how can i get rid o this warning? i'm worried
[09:22] <neurotech> What's the term used to describe the security method on websites where you navigate to a page and a javascript(?) alert pops up asking for a username and password?
[09:26] <qqa>  
[09:28] <llutz> coolroot: check why you get those warnings, check if you can change something, do it.
[09:28] <qqa>  
[09:33] <qqa>  
[09:35] <hetii> Hello
[09:35] <hetii> :)
[09:35] <the_legend> say whoop if your a programmer
[09:35] <qqa>  
[09:36] <acicula> coolroot: are you using ubuntu? the warning is because you allow root to login in the sshd_config file
[09:37] <coolroot> acicula,  yes how can i disable that file?
[09:37] <llutz> coolroot: man sshd_config
[09:37] <hetii> I use pulseaudio i client/server mode on 2 server. When i select remote sink and play music via vls or other player then its play fine. Also its play ok when i play move on youtube that are stream using html5 but when i play flash then the sounds are shredded.
[09:37] <acicula> coolroot: in the man page you will find a setting that disables root login via ssh, but if you are using ubuntu root has no password set and thus can not login to begin with
[09:37] <hetii> s/vls/vlc/
[09:38] <q-d> hello everybody
[09:38] <qqa>  
[09:38] <nimesh_accenture> iceroot: sorry i was away... I have used the android ICS kernel 3.01 and have chrooted ubuntu-core 11.10  , so is there a test to see if everything including audio/video/graphics etc
[09:39] <acicula> coolroot: and the other warning is emitted by rkhunter, you need to check the logs from that tool to see about the warnings
[09:41] <coolroot> i already did check the logs hehe thanx acicula
[09:41] <iceroot> nimesh_accenture: i dont know such a test, just use it so see if it is working
[09:41] <coolroot> acicula,  i need to read the man first thanx
[09:42] <nimesh_accenture> ok...
[09:42] <justanewbie> any software to auto detect sniffer machine that have promisic network in a subnet in ubuntu?
[09:42] <acicula> coolroot: i think the option is set in the sshd_config, you can just uncomment the option
[09:43] <acicula> justanewbie: packetfence is an open source NAC system
[09:43] <tegra> hi, can i try the live cd of ubuntu 10.10 on ps3 systems ? it works ?
[09:43] <acicula> justanewbie: might be able to detect it detect it with that
[09:44] <auronandace> !10.10 | tegra
[09:44] <zer0x> hi, is there any progress with critical nvidia drivers (295.40) issue with very slow screen refresh etc?
[09:45] <justanewbie> acicula: thank you ,i've try
[09:45] <yohann> hello?
[09:46] <coolroot> acicula, btw how can i open the sshd_config?
[09:48] <llutz> coolroot: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:54] <nimesh_accenture> i get this error when i do apt-get update . any clues what may be wrong?
[09:54] <nimesh_accenture> sh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[09:55] <satyanash> !11.04 | sattu94
[09:55] <mathews> It is annoying that Update Manager gives this message after the updation a moment earlier. "The package information last updated 26 days ago"
[09:58] <yohann> nimesh_accenture: first do sudo -i
[09:58] <yohann> nimesh_accenture: then do what you wanted to do earlier
[09:59] <mathews> It is annoying that Update Manager gives this message after the updation a moment earlier. "The package information last updated 26 days ago". How this happened?
[09:59] <acicula> yohann: nimesh_accenture you can use sudo apt-get update to run that command as root
[10:00] <yohann> acicula: could i ask something about grub loader, its kind of off-topic but i have a ubuntu + win and i have a mac hfs+ partition but not booting
[10:00] <nimesh_accenture> yohann:i am already root
[10:01] <acicula> yohann: just post your question here, if anyone knows they will answer.
[10:01] <acicula> while i have a mac i've never attempted dualbooting it so i doubt im much help
[10:01] <jiltdil> I think /dev/null is already created there
[10:01] <yohann> nimesh_accenture: try sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/null
[10:02] <nimesh_accenture> acicula:i am already root , i'm on an embedded device and there is no sudo , so i became super user with su command
[10:02] <traubisoda> hi all
[10:02] <yohann> how do i include mac osx partitionin grub loader ? i tried update-grub, the mac partition is listed in the boot menu but doesnt boot properly
[10:02] <acicula> nimesh_accenture: what distro are you running?
[10:02] <traubisoda> if i have 4 HDDs, and i'd like to RAID them in pairs(A-A, B-B), shall i use RAID1 or RAID10?
[10:03]  * jiltdil RAID is old idea i think , i am now using lvm
[10:04] <traubisoda> is that better? i'll use the pc as LAMP if that matters
[10:05] <nimesh_accenture> acicula: i'm running ubuntu core 11.10 chrooted on android ICS
[10:05] <jiltdil> s/w or hardware  RAID. Which one you are using?
[10:05] <nimesh_accenture> acicula: Hardware is Pandaboard
[10:06] <acicula> nimesh_accenture: before chrooting did you mount the dev filesystem?
[10:06] <traubisoda> nothing yet, i'm right at partitioning
[10:06] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  LVM basically is traditional software RAID. It allows you to create RAID-0, and RAID-1
[10:06] <andrewhiggs> Hello everyone.
[10:06] <LUEshi> .save
[10:06] <nimesh_accenture> i mounted these:
[10:06] <nimesh_accenture> busybox mount -t devpts devpts $mnt/dev/pts
[10:06] <nimesh_accenture> busybox mount -t proc proc $mnt/proc
[10:06] <nimesh_accenture> busybox mount -t sysfs sysfs $mnt/sys
[10:07] <FloodBot1> nimesh_accenture: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <nimesh_accenture> oops sorry
[10:07] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  I prefer with lvm, also if i have to choose hardware or s/w RAID i will go with s/w raid
[10:07] <jiltdil> nimesh_accenture,  Are you creating lfs system?
[10:07] <acicula> nimesh_accenture: did you mount $mnt/dev/ ?
[10:07] <traubisoda> jiltdil i started with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html ,now i'm az RAID configuration
[10:07] <traubisoda> at*
[10:08] <nimesh_accenture> acicula: oops no
[10:08] <andrewhiggs> I am struggling to get tomcat (6.0.35) to work well on an Ubuntu Server currently testing on 12.04 but got same result on 11.04 and 11.10). The same application is running on a hosted solution with much better performance. I notice that the CPU does not appear to be being used (top shows %us to range between 5 and 15%) as much as the hosted solution (top show %us to be between 80 and 90%). How do I go about trouble shooting why the cpu is not being used to p
[10:08] <nimesh_accenture> acicula: i'll try to mount that and check
[10:08] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  Thats fine
[10:08] <nimesh_accenture> acicula: thx!
[10:09] <acicula> nimesh_accenture: yw
[10:09] <traubisoda> jiltdil so if i would like to mirror my HDDs in pairs(A-A B-B) can i use RAID10?
[10:11] <jiltdil> traubisoda, Left using RAID some year ago, not much idea  at this time, shifted to lvm. Better to ask this from a currently RAID user
[10:11] <traubisoda> jiltdil okay, thank you for your help:)
[10:12] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  no problem :)
[10:12] <traubisoda> any RAID users here for a question?
[10:14] <traubisoda> jiltdil just on more question that might solve my problem, do you know what striping is at mirroring?
[10:15] <xtop7> всем привет
[10:16] <jiltdil> traubisoda, To create a striped-mirror volume, use the following command:# vxassist [-b] [-g diskgroup] make volume length \  layout=stripe-mirror [nmirror=number_mirrors] \ [ncol=number_of_columns] [stripewidth=size]
[10:17] <tegra> lucid-desktop-powerpc+ps3.iso this work on ps3 ?
[10:17] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  firstly please conforim this  perhabs i might forget something
[10:18] <traubisoda> jiltdil thanks again:)
[10:18] <jiltdil> traubisoda,  No problme :)  But i suggest to check that
[10:19] <shades> how can I specify apt-get to go through a proxy?
[10:19] <shades> like on port 8888 for example?
[10:20] <traubisoda> jiltdil okay
[10:20] <jiltdil> shades, http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/distro/debian/deb10-AptRelated/ar01s03.html
[10:21] <user82> has the idea of the 750mb max. size vanished? (daily build 698M)
[10:25] <yohann> i tried to install grub in the root ubuntu mount /dev/sda3  mounted as / now i get grub rescue, i booted to a ubuntu live on usb , how do i repair grub to detect my windows and ubuntu os'es?
[10:25] <jmara> hey, anyone tried 12.04 on a HP DL320/360 yet?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> jmara  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:26] <Shinh_Wa> help me
[10:26] <acicula> shades: you can set a proxy in apt.conf
[10:26] <acicula> shades: man apt.conf, or use the package manager
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> Tôi đang sử dụng 10.04.3
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> help me
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> I updated to version 10.04.4
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> thì run irc connecting vào chậm kinh khủng
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !enter| Shinh_Wa
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:28] <shades> I see an apt.conf.d/ but no apt.conf . . .
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:29] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:29] <SunTsu> shades: it would help if only asked in a single language then
[10:29] <shades> SunTsu, what?
[10:29] <andrewhiggs> How do I make Ubuntu allow more processing power to certain processes? In this case the tomcat process and the database connections it is using?
[10:30] <SunTsu> shades: uh, nevermind, wrong completion, sorry
[10:30] <SunTsu> Shinh_Wa: it would help if only asked in a single language then
[10:31] <Dedkov> hello, есть русскоязычные ?
[10:31] <kvartz> Ку!
[10:31] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:31] <SunTsu> !ru | Dedkov
[10:31] <Shinh_Wa> :(
[10:31] <Dedkov>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:32] <Dedkov> thank you
[10:32] <SunTsu> Shinh_Wa: you didn't ask anything yet, are you going to anytime soon or did you just wanted us to know about your connection?
[10:32] <jmara> MonkeyDust: thanks I'll try ;)
[10:32] <shades> this might be an easier issue resolved by having vmware bridge my network connection as the host machien is already dynamically forwarding
[10:34] <shades> wow I'm suprised at how much of that russian i could actually read
[10:34] <Shinh_Wa> me as you want to fix sao to connect to irc fast
[10:34] <hdev> Hi, where do I start if I have power consumption issues with my notebook? it is somehow using 33W according to powertop, on windows its around 12 on idle
[10:35] <Shinh_Wa> from the self-update to 10.04.4 connect to irc delayed
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Shinh_Wa  try this line: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:37] <shades>     
[10:38] <Shinh_Wa> Since the update to connect to irc 10.04.4 delayed terrible
[10:39] <Shinh_Wa> how to connect quickly irc right atrium now the ubuntu config like?
[10:41] <yohann> can someone help me out with grub
[10:41] <yohann> it gives me a invalid arch independent elf magic
[10:41] <aljosa> looking for some package w/ ui to configure synaptics/mutlitouch. i've installed gsynaptics but it doesn't contain any tools. any tips?
[10:41] <yohann> grub rescue
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> aljosa  maybe this link (2009) is helpful http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/10/06/touchpad-configuration-for-ubuntu-9-10-grub-2/
[10:46] <red> Anyone know if you can set up remotedesktop so that if you open a link in irc/skype it would instead open on the local machine, and not on the rdesktopped machine?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> red  rdesktop... a windows machine?
[10:47] <red> yup
[10:48] <red> id like to somehow capture links from skype to my ubuntu instead having to copypaste
[10:48] <red> since the clipboard is sorta glitchy at times
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> red  from the rdesktop manpage: "-r clipboard:[off|PRIMARYCLIPBOARD|CLIPBOARD] Enable clipboard redirection. 'PRIMARYCLIPBOARD' looks at both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD when sending data to server. 'CLIPBOARD' looks at only CLIPBOARD."
[10:52] <orgthingy> My web-cam apparently doesnt work, I guess it's a driver-related issue..but, how can I know what's my webcam in order to download a driver for it? it's built-in
[10:54] <traubisoda> yesterday i tried to install GUI on ubuntu server 11.10, but on boot the GUI didn't initalized, i tried to stop/start/restart it, no use. than i installed KDE then i was able to log in. After 'sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop' shall i install GDM too?
[10:55] <red> MonkeyDust: by glitchy, I ment that sometimes the clipboard interaction seizes to function
[10:55] <traubisoda> from KDM i was able to log into lightdm and KDE too
[10:55] <red> i've tested all those modes
[10:55] <gvo> orthingy: lspci  or lsusb might find it.  Or you could look in dmesg and see if there's a mention of it at boot.
[10:55] <red> I copy something locally, but pasting it remotely pastes what is in the remote clipboard
[10:56] <orgthingy> gvo: thanks
[10:56] <tegra> i tried ubuntu 10.04.4 iso on ps3 but doesn't work
[10:56] <gigahertz> hello!!!
[10:57] <yohann> my grub is messed up can someone help it gives a grub rescue error
[10:57] <Sidewinder> orgthingy, Or, if it's built-in, there's always sudo lshw..
[10:57] <tegra> how to boot 10.04.4 on ps3 ?
[10:57]  * orgthingy never used that command before
[10:58] <Sidewinder> orgthingy, But gvo's probably correct, it's probably pci or usb.
[10:58] <orgthingy> Sidewinder: I didnt find it in lspci
[10:58] <Sidewinder> hw=hardware
[10:58] <orgthingy> maybe cuz I read too fast
[10:58] <orgthingy> but that command seems neat, Sidewinder
[10:58] <Sidewinder> :)
[10:58] <gvo> orgthingy: Sidewinder : I suspect hw will find it
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> tegra  red the red warning first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492789
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> read*
[11:01] <orgthingy> http://pastebin.com/cB31zczb
[11:01] <orgthingy> ^ gvo Sidewinder
[11:01] <bartoloni> hi, there is a link for the 12.04 rc? (thx)
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> bartoloni  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <Sidewinder> !12.04
[11:03] <gvo> orgthingy: It doesn't look like it's there.
[11:03] <bartoloni> thx sidewinder
[11:03] <Sidewinder> My pleasure. :-)
[11:03] <yohann> can anyone help me out with grub >
[11:03] <yohann> my whole system wont boot
[11:03] <orgthingy> :(
[11:03] <Sidewinder> Cheese it, it's the cops.
[11:03] <gvo> yohann what's the error message.
[11:04] <yohann> grub rescue
[11:04] <yohann> and invalid arch independent elf magic windows
[11:04] <tegra> MonkeyDust, without install ? it's possible ?
[11:04] <tegra> only boot the iso
[11:04] <gvo> yohann:  at what point does it fail?
[11:04] <yohann> gvo: actually i had widnows first , then installed ubuntu and then mac on a hfs+ partition
[11:05] <yohann> it fails on boot
[11:05] <yohann> grub is my default loader
[11:05] <yohann> verifying DMI Pool data... grub rescue>
[11:05] <gvo> yohann: at what step in the boot does it fail?
[11:05] <tegra> can't boot ubuntu on ps3
[11:05] <yohann> i dont even get the boot menu at all
[11:05] <gvo> yohann Do you see the boot menu?
[11:05] <yohann> no
[11:05] <yohann> not one bit
[11:06] <gvo> Grub or grub2?
[11:06] <yohann> 2
[11:06] <meomic> hey, im using ubuntu 10.10 x86-64, ihave problem with sound indicator - i have normal gnome instead of that ubuntu one (with players listed there) - how can i make it come back?
[11:06] <gvo> What did you do to cause it to fail or did it never work?
[11:07] <yohann> gvo: i think what caused the problem as that i did sudo apt-get install grub in my root ubuntu install paritition and i have windows installed also...ever since i did that i got the error
[11:07] <yohann> sudo apt-get install grub /dev/sda3
[11:09] <Sidewinder> !eol > meomic
[11:09] <gvo> yohann: I think you'll need to boot a live cd or usb drive and maybe run boot-repair
[11:10] <yohann> im already in live cd
[11:10] <yohann> live usb
[11:10] <yohann> actually
[11:10] <yohann> do i just do boot-repair?
[11:11] <gvo> yohann if it's installed
[11:11] <yohann> if what is installed?
[11:11] <gvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:12] <gvo> yohann: boot-repair
[11:12] <gvo> yohann: Gotta run.
[11:12] <yohann> gvo: thanks
[11:12] <monohedron> hi
[11:18] <root>  
[11:18] <Guest91750>  
[11:19] <coutts99> room%server.domain.tld
[11:21] <tkostov1> Hi all where can i get a bit help about ubuntu ssh und tar pipinng
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  in #ubuntu
[11:22] <fidel> tkostov1: maybe inhere - if you describe your real problem
[11:22] <asido> you probably want scp?
[11:22] <tkostov1> no scp does not work
[11:22] <tkostov1> because of the number of files
[11:22] <tkostov1> i am planning to use tar piping over ssh
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  then try rsync
[11:23] <tkostov1> i can create ssh connection to server
[11:23] <tkostov1> and then i have no idea how to retreve the data from it
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  rsync over ssh may be what you want
[11:23] <t0m5k1> tkostovl i recommend you set up some key's so you do not need to declare the pword
[11:23] <tkostov1> ok
[11:24] <tkostov1> but how to create the connection
[11:24] <tkostov1> it hast to be ssh root@server
[11:24] <tkostov1> and then ?
[11:24] <t0m5k1> im sure the ubuntu wiki will help in setting up the keys for the initial ssh connection then after that you can work out whether you need rsync etc
[11:24] <Guest91750>  
[11:24] <nbubuntu> anyone know whether the latest ubuntu 12.04 support z77 board ?
[11:25] <tkostov1> # tar cvzf - /wwwdata | ssh root@192.168.1.201 "dd of=/backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"
[11:25] <fidel> !12.04 | nbubuntu
[11:25] <tkostov1> # tar zcvf - /wwwdata | ssh root@192.168.1.201 "cat > /backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"
[11:25] <tkostov1> i was planning to use something like that
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  root@server is not a good idea
[11:26] <tkostov1> but i have to get the tarbal from the server
[11:26] <tkostov1> not copy on it
[11:26] <tkostov1> ok I`ll use other user
[11:26] <fidel> tkostov1: most likely possible using another user as well. login via ssh as root is often even disallowed by ssh-config (sidenote)
[11:26] <t0m5k1> tkostovl would it not be better to do this in reverse
[11:26] <nbubuntu> fidel : Thanks :)
[11:27] <tkostov1> t0m5k1: how exatcly
[11:27] <tkostov1> ist my question
[11:27] <adminoir> anyone good with Postfix config? Im getting the old Relay error sending from Thunderbird
[11:27] <t0m5k1> i mean have the server itself create the tarball then dump it where it needs to go via a cron job which initiates a scritp
[11:27] <asido>  
[11:28] <tkostov1> t0m5k1: the host where the tar is behind a nat
[11:28] <tkostov1> and cannot be connected to it..
[11:30] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[11:30] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[11:32] <wonderman> can someone tell me how to remove the policy chains that UFW inserts to netfilter?
[11:36] <yohann> can someone pleease help me with grub i cant boot anything
[11:36] <yohann> no windows no ubuntu no mac no nothing
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> !details| yohann
[11:38] <yohann> it started when i did a sudo grub-install into the linux root drive
[11:39] <yohann> before that i dont know where grub was installed
[11:39] <shades> I seem to be having a hard time getting ubuntu to apt-get through a proxy
[11:39] <yohann> but after i did that (i was tryng to boot mac too, off of grub loader) i got a grub rescue and a invalid arch independent elf magic windows
[11:39] <yohann> error
[11:39] <yohann> now i dont know what i did in the live usb but i managed to get something running here
[11:40] <Therion87> You don't install it to just the linux drive say sda1 with mac on sda2 you install it to sda
[11:40] <yohann> i got a gnu grub version 1.99 running
[11:40] <yohann> sda3
[11:40] <shades> http://thanhpt25.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/configure-apt-get-with-proxy/ I followed this guide but still no luck
[11:40] <Therion87> Ok well you need to boot to a live cd and reisntall it to sda
[11:40] <Therion87> not sda3
[11:40] <yohann> it says minimal bash like line editing is supported for the first word tab lists possible command completetions
[11:40] <shades> anyidea what gives?
[11:41] <dryliketoast> @shades u just need to define the proxy enviroment variable
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> yohann  sda is a device, sda3 is a partition
[11:41] <yohann> oh so i have to do grub-install sda?
[11:41] <Therion87> /dev/sda
[11:41] <yohann> yeah
[11:41] <yohann> ok ill do that now hold on
[11:41] <Therion87> Yes
[11:42] <yohann> oh yeah i have windows too will that affect anything?
[11:42] <Therion87> Nope
[11:42] <Therion87> All will show in the grub
[11:42] <Zerpex> Hi guys, I'm currently sitting here, and I have domain1.com that needs to act like domain2.com, can I point domain1.com to actually go to domain2.com in the hosts file?
[11:42] <Therion87> After install make sure you run grub-update
[11:42] <yohann> oh ok thanks
[11:42] <amokpaule> Hello, i have an ati card installed. I use the fgrlx driver and i do my settings over the catalyst control center. On every reboot now it resets my settings.
[11:42] <yohann> ok
[11:44] <Atlantic777> On ubuntu server on an old PC i have some problems with graphics. At the first time, everything worked well but then (I don't know when) I can't see GRUB and tty is all shite with some unreadable characters. I still have ssh access to that machine, monitor is connected to it, too. It's the same with and without nomodeset in grub boot options. Any ideas?
[11:45] <yohann> Therion87: im in live usb doing what you said now
[11:45] <Therion87> Ok
[11:46] <Therion87> Lemme know how it goes
[11:46] <yohann> it says error
[11:46] <Therion87> I'm not sure about that might happen with it already installed to sda3 tho
[11:46] <Therion87> What error?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> "computer says no" ;)
[11:46] <yohann> cannot find device
[11:46] <yohann> for /boot/grub
[11:46] <yohann> is /dev mounted?
[11:47] <yohann> thats what it said
[11:47] <Therion87> Ok
[11:47] <Therion87> Before running grub type
[11:47] <yohann>   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) (thats the full error)
[11:47] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938148/ <---- got something here any help?
[11:47] <Therion87> mount /dev/sda
[11:48] <yohann> cannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:48] <zvacet> yohann:  try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair to repair grub
[11:48] <shades>     http://pastebin.com/EB1sHyA5
[11:48] <pangolin> !paste | yohann
[11:49] <Therion87> Try that little app install it on thelive CD
[11:49] <yohann> ok ill paste but im actually on my laptop not on the pc
[11:49] <Therion87> Looks like a nice little app
[11:49] <yohann> boot-repair?
[11:49] <Therion87> Yeah
[11:50] <zvacet> yohann:  you are running hackintosh on pc?
[11:51] <yohann> zvacet: i have 3 os'es
[11:51] <yohann> windows first
[11:51] <yohann> then installed ubuntu
[11:51] <yohann> and now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partivetion i chopped off some dri
[11:51] <yohann> and now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partition i chopped off some drive
[11:52] <shades> any ideas why my connection isn't forwarding?
[11:52] <zvacet> yohann: pirated software is not supported here
[11:52] <Lint> yohann, if you need to have /dev dir mounted into chroot environment
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> yohann  maybe you want too much
[11:52] <yohann> yeah i know im not asking about hackintosh
[11:52] <yohann> i figured i was asking for too much
[11:52] <pangolin> yohann, Please give the enter key a rest
[11:52] <yohann> :(
[11:53] <jiltdil> How to be some channel operators? ;)
[11:53] <nampat> hi
[11:53] <zvacet> yohann: yes,you are asking to put hackintosh on ghrub it is not supported here move on
[11:53] <pangolin> jiltdil, that has nothing to do with ubuntu, ask in #freenode
[11:54] <Miles> when  trying to resume from hibernate the process hangs at the console with the last line "image loaded successfully"
[11:54] <Miles> is that a known problem?
[11:54] <yohann> looks like boot repair might be doing the trick
[12:00] <Lyfer> Hi! I have hit upon a huge problem: I was updating to Ubuntu 11.10 and in the middle the system shut down (due to overheating) and now I am in a state where my system won't start properly and I don't know what to do.
[12:01] <usr13> Lyfer: How far does it get?
[12:01] <Lyfer> If I try to start the normal mode, the startup just hangs, without any clear error messages. And it won't start the x-server
[12:01] <Lyfer> I can start in fail safe mode and from there it is possible to start the x-server with startx.
[12:02] <Lyfer> I will restart it now and see exactly what it says. Wait two secs.
[12:02] <usr13> Lyfer: Try the update from fail safe mode.
[12:02] <fidel> Lyfer: i would try to see the error-message while the normal boot - to understand where it hangs
[12:03] <Lyfer> I have tried to update in fail safe mode but nothing happens.
[12:03] <fidel> boot-splashes are usualy not helpful at all - as they hide infos you might otherwise see
[12:03] <Lyfer> It may be that the process have destroyed some configuration but I don't know how to reset it.
[12:03] <yohann> i treid fixing my grub loader
[12:03] <yohann> but i get a old grub 1.99
[12:03] <usr13> Lyfer: You really need to fix the hardware issue before going any farther.  (Fix your PC so that  it no longer overheats.)
[12:04] <zvacet> Lyfer: try with sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[12:04] <yohann> no options no menu just a "grub >  "  thing where i can type in some commands or something
[12:04] <zvacet> !piracy | yohann
[12:04] <Lyfer> usr13: I know. It is old and bad. The fix may very well be to throw it away.
[12:05] <usr13> Lyfer: What is it?  Desktop?  Laptop?
[12:05] <Lyfer> usr13: Laptop
[12:05] <yohann> ok sorry, but isnt grub discussion not a part of hackintosh discussions? im not asking about hakintosh
[12:05] <yohann> bye
[12:06] <usr13> Lyfer: See that the fan is in working order.  Take it apart and clean it, etc.
[12:06] <usr13> Lyfer: .... apply new thermal grease
[12:07] <Lyfer> usr13: Yes, I guess I'll have to. Right now I try to allow for better air flow and it seems to help slightly.
[12:08] <Sidewinder> Lyfer, A few yrs. ago my wife had lappy over-heat problems; she bought and is thrilled with one of those external fans that sit under the lappy..
[12:08] <Lyfer> The "ubuntu" splash screen comes on, then it disappears. The last message in the startup is "Starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]"
[12:09] <Sidewinder> Lyfer, Just ignore the additional noise. :-)
[12:09] <Lyfer> It is possible to ssh login to the computer in its current condition as well.
[12:09] <Sidewinder> And make sure that you're zipper is up. :)
[12:10] <Lyfer> Sidewinder: Oh, sounds too dangerous for me. ;)
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer i havent followed, i'm here over ssh, what do you mean by current condition
[12:10] <Sidewinder> ;)
[12:10] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: My computer does not start properly.
[12:10] <stimpie> does any one know of a ready argument to use syslog for central logging over windows event log? I need to convince a windows admin we should move to centralized syslog
[12:11] <black_> i want to view NOAA charts, in raster format, but i cant understand what application to use in ubuntu.
[12:11] <pangolin> stimpie, try ##windows
[12:11] <Lyfer> I would be happy if I could just clean out all startup config files and replace them with what would be a fresh installation.
[12:12] <stimpie> pangolin, good suggestion ;-)
[12:12] <Sidewinder> black_, Have you tried 'Gimp"?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  do you get past the grub menu or not even that?
[12:12] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: Yepp, I get the "Ubunut" splash screen and then it disappears.
[12:13] <black_> sidewinder, no but they are sort of in a folder, with some data files that i cant understand
[12:14] <Lyfer> zvacet: Doesn't do anything. :(
[12:14] <Sidewinder> black_, I know nothing about "Raster", sorry,  but I would try opening in Gimp, it should already be installed, and see if that helps.
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  hm, not sure, but try the basic ssh [remote user]@[remote ip]
[12:15] <black_> sidewinder, thank you for your information
[12:15] <phryk> usr13: Apply new thermal paste… On a laptop?
[12:15] <Sidewinder> black_, Also Blender is a CAD like program (I've never used it), that might help..
[12:15] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: The ssh works. That is not the issue. The issue is that the desktop does not load.
[12:15] <phryk> You do realize this will void all warranties that might be left? o_O
[12:15] <Lyfer> phryk: The computer is WAAAAY past that.
[12:16] <phryk> Lyfer: Do you have any experience opening up laptops?
[12:16] <Guest41493> does anyone know what netcat is?
[12:16] <Sidewinder> black_, My pleasure; I just wish I could've given you something more definitive.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  do you want a gui over ssh? what do you mean by 'the desktop does not load'?
[12:16] <Lyfer> phryk: Nope, so I don't know if I will attempt it.
[12:16] <black_> sidewinder, those are nautical charts, i was wondering if you knew any char application meant for electronic charts
[12:17] <oCean> Guest41493: tool to open/view tcp connections, send packets etc, can do *lots*.
[12:17] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: No, I want to be able to start my computer. I just tried to tell anyone listening that it was possible to do an ssh login. Thus trying to define the state of my computer.
[12:17] <phryk> Lyfer: Then simply don't. If it's a thinkpad you might be able to do it, if it's anything else it'll likely break. Just hold a vacuum cleaner up to the 'Exhaust pipe' of your laptop, that ought to suck out most of the dust.
[12:17] <Sidewinder> black_, Yes, I'm a pilot and have also done much marine navigation; so I know NOAA... :-)
[12:17] <fl1bbl3> Lyfer: if you can ssh then your computer HAS started
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> Guest41493: yes
[12:18] <oCean> black_: could this be helpful? (it's not a package that is in the ubuntu repositories..)
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> it can be used in a whole raft of ways
[12:18] <phryk> Guest41493: Very simple tool for network analysis.
[12:18] <black_> sidewinder, i am really sorry, i didnt knew that.. :D
[12:18] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: OK, bad wording from my side. It starts but it does not complete the startup sequence, ie., it does not load the login screen.
[12:19] <fl1bbl3> Lyfer: do you mean it won't show _anything_ or that it won't start X?
[12:19] <black_> oCean , i didnt get you
[12:19] <Sidewinder> black_, I would just try gimp and if that doesn't do what you want, maybe Blender but I doubt it.. :-(
[12:19] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: It won't start x and it won't give me a login screen (except in fail safe mode, where I can login and start x manually using "startx")
[12:20] <oCean> black_: right, forgot to paste the link :)  http://polarnavy.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/linux-installation-instructions/
[12:21] <fl1bbl3> can you boot into recovery mode?
[12:21] <fl1bbl3> so its your X setup thats broken
[12:21] <ariel__> can someone tell me why i cant seem to find oracle java for ubuntu 11.19
[12:21] <ariel__> 11.10
[12:21] <phryk> Lyfer: Did you try to do ctrl+alt+f2 and then login on the tty and try to execute startx by hand?
[12:21] <Sidewinder> black_, Yes, what oCean said; you'll probably have better chances trying that. Thanx, oCean !
[12:22] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: Very possibly so, but I don't know how to fix it.
[12:22] <phryk> Lyfer: also first `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[12:22] <MrWobz> Hello, does anyone have experiance sharing an internet connection via network/interfaces
[12:22] <black_> oCean , thank you for that, i was looking for something like that.
[12:23] <pentagonpie> If i prefer KDE. is there any reason for me to stay with ubuntu and not switch to a distro with KDE as default?
[12:23] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  like teathering or something like that ?
[12:23] <Lyfer> I could even do an ssh and start the x-server from there.
[12:23] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  Yes
[12:23] <llutz> !info qlandkartegt  | black_
[12:23] <MrWobz> Basically I have a server colocated, I want to colocate another but dont want to buy a switch
[12:23] <MrWobz> I am only allowed one internet feed, both servers have two nics
[12:23] <bobweaver> !vnc | Lyfer
[12:23] <OerHeks> pentagonpie, one reason is great support, US !
[12:24] <Lyfer> bobweaver: OK, thanks but that's not what I am looking for.
[12:24] <bobweaver> but all the cool kids are using mutt and screen Lyfer
[12:24] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I just want to be able to start my computer.
[12:24] <bobweaver> oh
[12:24] <bobweaver> like starting over lan ? Lyfer
[12:25] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Nope, by pressing the "ON" button. :-(
[12:25] <Lyfer> bobweaver: My startup process is somehow corrupted.
[12:25] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you are getting busybox ?
[12:25] <fl1bbl3> lol, bobweaver I fetchmail my gmail into mutt and screen :D
[12:26] <bobweaver> :D
[12:26] <bobweaver> see all the cool kids are using it ;>)
[12:26] <fl1bbl3> agreed :)
[12:27] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  how many servers ?
[12:27] <bobweaver> puppet chef is why I ask ^^
[12:27] <pentagonpie> OerHeks, but what is the difference in the OS if I have ubuntu with KDE vs openSUSE with default KDE ?
[12:27] <Lyfer> phryk: What should I look for in the log?
[12:28] <MrWobz> I have two nics, one used for internet feed and one for sharing on two servers
[12:28] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  not sure but maybe adhoc it is called I could 100% be wrong on that one there
[12:28] <OerHeks> pentagonpie, the software/packagemanager and i asume the artwork
[12:28] <bobweaver> I have made switches out of router/firewalls
[12:29] <MrWobz> adhoc is sharing a wifi connection...
[12:29] <Lyfer> phryk: Trying to start the x server from there does not work properly. "No protocol specified"
[12:30] <phryk> Lyfer: From the tty? o_O
[12:30] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[12:30] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[12:30] <Lint> why?
[12:30] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  do you have any old crappy boxs laying around ?
[12:31] <hdev> Is there an easy way to make particular applications launch in on a certain workspace using compiz/unity?
[12:31] <Lyfer> phryk: Yes. It tries to start but it goes black, then going back to the tty I see this message.
[12:31] <Lyfer> phryk: Over and over again.
[12:31] <phryk> Lyfer: I had lots of X-troubles, but that never happened to me…^^
[12:32] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  in tty type in lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:32] <bobweaver> what is card Lyfer
[12:32] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Don't know. But I can get the X-server running. Not from there though.
[12:32] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  when it stalls on boot press ctrl+alt+f1
[12:33] <bobweaver> do you get to cammand screen ?
[12:33] <bobweaver> command *
[12:33] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, I get that. I don't even know if it is the X-server that is the problem or something else that starts before that.
[12:33] <bobweaver> Dont run startx
[12:33] <Guest41493> Ubuntu sucks
[12:33] <MrWobz> bobweaver I dont have time to play around unfortunately, and one nic is disabled on the currently colocated box so I need to set it up now or rent a switch which is costly considering i have just two servers
[12:34] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  sign in and then run lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:34] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Radeon Mobility X1600 - ATI. This is an old computer.
[12:35] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  what is the # in [56765 5665]
[12:35] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  like mine is  [8086:0046]
[12:35] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I just shut the computer off. Will restart it shortly.
[12:35] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  cool
[12:36] <g0bl1n> hi, anyone using login do an Ubuntu laptop with a Yubikey ?
[12:36] <g0bl1n> *to
[12:36] <g0bl1n> with OTP
[12:37] <Lyfer> bobweaver: [1002:71c5]
[12:37] <bobweaver> thanks Lyfer
[12:38] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   sudo lshw -C display     what driver is loaded ?
[12:39] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  configuration: driver=radeon ??
[12:40] <goodyob> How do I keep the volume, brightness, and connection settings from resetting each time I restart my laptop?
[12:40] <DarsVaeda1> hi, I placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command
[12:40] <DarsVaeda1> how do I get rid of that?
[12:41] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  can you show us the .desktop file ?
[12:41] <ReXHaviK> ubuntu is running on vbox-headless on a entertainment center server, vbox is serving up via rdp to client running ubuntu, rdp offers up sound to client, the issue is that i have sound coming out of both the client and the server, client has a bit of delay, can i keep sound from the vbox going to the client without denying the server sound,?
[12:41] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: sure
[12:41] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, and latency=0
[12:42] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  ok and cool ! lets see where it is erroring out         LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[12:42] <Guest41493> anyone knows what netcat is
[12:42] <Guest41493> ?
[12:42] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver:  if I remember what launcher files where called again
[12:42] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Should I write that?
[12:42] <bobweaver> !info netcat | Guest41493
[12:42] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  yup
[12:43] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[12:43] <Guest41493> who wants my shell?
[12:43] <Lyfer> "Error: unable to open display"
[12:43] <Lyfer> ^ bobweaver
[12:43] <bobweaver> thanks Lyfer
[12:43] <Guest41493> nc 69.80.18.92 1234
[12:44] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  try  glxinfo | grep vendor
[12:44] <Guest41493> if you want my shell im listening
[12:44] <Lyfer> bobweaver: "Error: unable to open display"
[12:44] <bobweaver> Guest41493,  do you have a ubuntu related question ?
[12:44] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  arghh
[12:44] <Guest41493> no
[12:44] <Guest41493> yes
[12:45] <Lint> !dpkg samba-bin
[12:45] <AlphaGuyy> Bob
[12:45] <Guest41493> i can't add icons to my desktop
[12:45] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  dmesg | grep drm
[12:45] <Lint> !version samba-bin
[12:46] <Lyfer> bobweaver: A screen full. Anything particular to look for?
[12:46] <AlphaGuyy> Anyone know how to partion a drive without formating it?
[12:46] <bobweaver> yes
[12:46] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   radeon kernel modesetting enabled. drm radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.
[12:46] <totem> dr_willis: do you ubuntu too?
[12:47] <Lint> you are ignoring me
[12:47] <Guest41493> bobweaver, i have a questio how do i add icons to my desktop
[12:47] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  what ubuntu is this ? unity
[12:47] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, that I have, followed by (RV530 and a bunch hex-numbers
[12:47] <OerHeks> !info samba
[12:47] <DarsVaeda> what are launcher files called again?
[12:47] <Lint> .desktop
[12:47] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  good
[12:48] <DarsVaeda> Lint: ahh the obvious -.- thanks
[12:48] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  brb coffee
[12:48] <Lint> is there samba-4 in ubuntu?
[12:50] <DarsVaeda> I placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command -> here is the launcher file: http://pastebin.com/pW4QP1AX
[12:51] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  what is ubuntu  version that you are using and desktop also plz
[12:53] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  change gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse    to     gnome-terminal --working-directory /usr/bin/ `bash -lc "gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse & "` ;
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  type lsb_release -sd
[12:53] <Lyfer> bobweaver: The problems started when I was updating to 11.10 and got a power outage in the middle of the process.
[12:53] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: thanks!
[12:54] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you got a hardrive to backup your stuff
[12:54] <Lyfer> bobweaver: All of what is important at least. :)
[12:54] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  that is not 100% so test out first
[12:54] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I would be willing to reinstall from scratch I guess.
[12:54] <Guest41493> nc 69.80.18.92 1234
[12:54] <LmAt> I think yesterday I was disrespecting elinks.  I've since changed my mind.
[12:54] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda, you also do not need the --working--dir but it is good to have
[12:55] <Guest41493> connect to me
[12:55] <Lyfer> bobweaver: BUT it would be nice IF I could solve this anyway. Just because... :p
[12:55] <LmAt> I think that my problem is that I was using tmux over ssh which caused things to display very poorly.
[12:55] <Guest41493> is easy as 123
[12:55] <LmAt> I just reached over to the actual terminal and used it to load a page and it looks excellent!
[12:55] <bobweaver> Lyfer, yah I would back up my home folder and what not 1st and all that gazz
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  screen over ssh works like a charm
[12:55] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you could also try to upgrade to it right now after backing up hardrive
[12:56] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I have tried updating it. Nothing happens. It claims to be updated already.
[12:56] <bobweaver> Lyfer, a sudo do-release-upgrade -d  ?
[12:56] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I would like to try to clean out the startup config files
[12:56] <bobweaver> back up 1st
[12:57] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: works in the terminal but not as a launcher
[12:57] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Now something is happening.
[12:58] <Lyfer> bobweaver: So what does this command mean? :-)
[12:58] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda, try to switch out gnome terminal with x-terminal-emulator -e
[12:59] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  that upgrades version
[12:59] <bobweaver> like from 10.10 to .11.0
[12:59] <Lyfer> bobweaver: And the -d option?
[12:59] <bobweaver> not sure
[12:59] <benjick> Hello. Is there any way I can preconfigure an iso for ubuntu? I want to just start the setup, punch in IP/gateway/dns and it should install the packages I've chosen
[12:59] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  but I 100% trust where I got that info
[13:00] <Guest41493> lmao
[13:00] <Attie> Guest41493; o/
[13:00] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  and I have ran it many many many times
[13:00] <Guest41493> ;)
[13:00] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yeah, I don't mistrust it, I was just curious. :-)
[13:00] <Guest41493> Attie, can you please try to hack me
[13:00] <OerHeks> benjick, sounds like you want preseeding >> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[13:00] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  always ask questions !
[13:01] <bobweaver> \0/
[13:01] <Attie> uhh... why?
[13:01] <benjick> OerHeks: Is that available in newer versions of ubuntu?
[13:01] <Guest41493> or can you show me how
[13:01] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I thought I should consider this a time to learn more, rather than a "tear your hair" moment.
[13:01] <Xtreme> guys which audio player should i install for movies and music?
[13:01] <Xtreme> which is nice one?
[13:01] <OerHeks> benjick, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html is the same, and will be available in 12.04 too.
[13:02] <Attie> i'm sure google can help, what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:02] <Guest41493> not really
[13:02] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  I have a computer that was upgrading using them commands and my dog pulled the power cord out half way though so I feel your pain
[13:02] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: hmm
[13:02] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  but everything worked out in the end takes like 2 hr depends on connection
[13:02] <Guest41493> attie im scanning your ip with nmap
[13:02] <Guest41493> lol
[13:03] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: It might be my ssh client.  I'm using putty on Win XP...
[13:03] <bobweaver> !coc
[13:03] <Attie> good good
[13:03] <LmAt> Let me check outside of tmux.
[13:03] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I have a super-connection. I am sitting at my workplace at the university.
[13:03] <Guest41493> cvs.mpc-ogw.co.uk
[13:03] <nettezzaumana> hello
[13:03] <bobweaver> Guest41493, If I was mod I ban you butt
[13:03] <shades> my sources.list has http://76.73.4.58:8888/ubuntu but for some reason apt-get still isn't port forwarding on 888
[13:03] <bobweaver> !mod
[13:03] <Guest41493> what is mod?
[13:04] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I checked outside tmux, and it looks like crap.  It must be my putty client.  How can i fix it?
[13:04] <bobweaver> Will some mod ban that fool he has 100% said that he is scanning people with nmap
[13:04] <benjick> OerHeks: thank you
[13:04] <Guest41493> bobweaver, you didn't even answer my question when i ask
[13:04] <shades> how do I get apt-get to forward through this?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  not sure what you mean, i'm familiar with putty on XP, but what is it you want to do
[13:04] <Guest41493> bobweaver, how do i add icons to my desktop
[13:04] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: In fact, even Tmux doesn't display correctly.  The divider between windows is a bunch of a with accent ague instead of blocks.
[13:04] <Guest41493> but nobody answers me
[13:04] <Xtreme> guys, i have installed flash player, but i am not getting any audio output from firefox
[13:04] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I want it to display correctly.
[13:04] <Xtreme> what can i do?
[13:05] <nettezzaumana> would anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu
[13:05] <nettezzaumana> thanks
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  ah, so want to know how tmux works? dont know, i'm happy with byobu/screen
[13:06] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: No, it's not tmux.  Any program with "advanced" output (such as tmux, elinks, lynx, etc,etc) doesn't show up correctly.
[13:07] <shades> as 'apt-get socks proxy' has backhat seo sites coming up within the first page
[13:07] <ayaka> http://paste.debian.net/163938/  it seems getty don't start and udev don't create tty0-31,i use some script in rc.local to print that
[13:07] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I haven't narrowed it down much more than that, but, for instance, the bar that separates tmux windows is a bunch of 'a's, not a bar (block of green)
[13:07] <Guest41493> bobweaver, fuck you
[13:07] <Xtreme> guys anyone?
[13:07] <bluegoon> Hi guys, how can I access my C: drive from terminal?
[13:07] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: Also, elinks shows all kinds of crap all over the place instead of the cool shapes that it's supposed to show.
[13:07] <Guest41493> bobweaver, you dumb bitch
[13:07] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I guess I'll have to make a new ssh client...
[13:07]  * LmAt sighs
[13:07] <nettezzaumana> XLV: ask for a gods sake, don't ask to ask or if is anyone here
[13:08] <LordXe-gnu> somehow wine was uninstalled from my system (perhaps to resolve a conflict at some point?) but I need it back.  I'm seeing this http://slexy.org/view/s2uYNUkLrQ (sorry for a little redundancy in it)
[13:09] <Xtreme> MonkeyDust: can u help?
[13:09] <LordXe-gnu> I just completed an update/upgrade using aptitude also, but no help
[13:09] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[13:09] <bluegoon> How do I browse my hard drive from terminal?
[13:10] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try  sudo apt-get reinstall wine
[13:10] <fidel> bluegoon: start with 'ls'
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> bluebomber, how do you mean browse? like a command line file manager?
[13:10] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  how do you mean ?
[13:10] <fidel> or: man ls
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> d'oh, meant bluegoon
[13:10] <nettezzaumana> would anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu
[13:10] <LmAt> bluegoon: I'm a bit of a newb, but try "cd /".
[13:10] <LmAt> bluegoon: Unfortunately, other things besides your hard drive are in there, too.
[13:10] <bluegoon> LmAt: That would only go to the root folder.
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, it looked like it works but still no /usr/bin/wine after :/
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: The linux file-system is very different than the Windows one.
[13:11] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try whereis wine
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: Everything on your hard drive (I think) (and much more!) is under cd /
[13:11] <bluegoon> LmAt: I have a second internal hard drive, how do I browse to it in terminal?
[13:11] <geekbri> bluegoon: you can use cd to change directories and ls to list files in the diretories
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: You have to ensure it's "mounted"
[13:11] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  there is a tutorial by a man named cazz giffen or something like that on youtube I 100% say watch it
[13:11] <fidel> bluegoon: depends on where you've mounted that drive
[13:11] <bluegoon> bobweaver: ok thank you
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: What happens is You attach that hard drive to your computer, then you need to decide where it should show up under "cd /"
[13:11] <bobweaver> chazz giffen * IDK how to spell it
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: in short, list the content (files) of the all wine related packages in your system
[13:12] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, oh, curious... it found it in /usr/bin/wine but bash can't run it... hrm
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> LmAt i'm not familiar with tmux
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Xtreme  with what?
[13:12] <geekbri> bluegoon: typing "mount" will show you all mounted drives, but that may not be overly helpful to you if you dont know the device name
[13:12] <LmAt> bluegoon: So you decide where it should go (perhaps /media/newdrive) and "mount" it there.
[13:12] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try ls -al /usr/bin/wine
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> chmod +x  LordXe-gnu
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> PROBABLY
[13:12] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, indeed ls found it, very interesting
[13:12] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: It doesn't matter!  It's not an issue with tmux, it is my putty client.  But I guess you're wanting to know what it should look like and what it does look like... just a sec.
[13:12] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, what are the permissions?
[13:13] <ariel__> does anybody here have aptana installed on ubuntu 11.10?
[13:13] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UtIe4nL6BmY
[13:13] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux5.png There's tmux.
[13:13] <bobweaver> that is the dude ^^
[13:13] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, -rwxr-xr-x
[13:13] <Xtreme> MonkeyDust: i am not getting any sound from flashplayer in firefox.. i tried youtube and other sites
[13:13] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try running it as /usr/bin/wine instead of wine
[13:14] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, same result
[13:14] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: full line ``ls -la /usr/bin/wine''
[13:14] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9684 2011-12-13 19:13 /usr/bin/wine
[13:14] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: And instead of the lines separating windows, I get the letter 'a' with hat accents (accent ague?).
[13:15] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: Also, in elinks, I lots of artifacts.
[13:15] <Firartix> Hello, is there any way to specify the default display manager to use ?
[13:15] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, I would try sudo apt-get remove --purge wine before reinstalling it
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  sorry dude, can't help
[13:15] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, never seen this before
[13:15] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, hm, worth a shot -- stand by :)
[13:15] <bobweaver> Finnish,  look at sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager
[13:15] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: is ``ldd /usr/bin/wine'' without errors ?
[13:15] <nettezzaumana> no need to paste here or wherever
[13:15] <Firartix> Because i accidentally installed gdm, but i'd like to use lightdm anyway !
[13:15] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, 	not a dynamic executable (according to ldd)
[13:15] <bobweaver> Firartix,  sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st
[13:15] <llutz> LordXe-gnu: you are on amd64? maybe need to install ia32libs
[13:16] <LordXe-gnu> llutz, indeed I am on amd64
[13:16] <Firartix> okay, thanks, i'll have a look at this
[13:16] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: well, the wine invocation works ? eg you can type for example `wine notepad' in your ~/.wine/drive_c/.... ? so the wine fails ?
[13:17] <acicula> you do not need 32bit libs to run wine
[13:17] <crazydiamond> Hi. How to figure out what X config file is used now?
[13:17] <llutz> acicula: sure? "depends on ia32-libs" ....
[13:18] <bobweaver> crazydiamond,  update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st
[13:18] <nettezzaumana> crazydiamond: no files is used now because the X reads a cfg file only on startup and then they closes() all FDs
[13:18] <Firartix> bobweaver: wait no, i meant the Display Manager, not Window manager
[13:18] <bobweaver> ahh
[13:18] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, nope it does not work
[13:18] <LordXe-gnu> so I have an interseting error here
[13:18] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: so the script /usr/bin/wine doesn't work correctly ? right ?
[13:19] <Xtreme> apt-get error "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[13:19] <LordXe-gnu> http://slexy.org/view/s2QeDMZv4Z <-- on trying to reinstall after remove --purge
[13:19] <nettezzaumana> but i's not like that you've annouced that the wine has disappeared from your system
[13:19] <Xtreme> i tried killing apt-get
[13:19] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I crashed irssi by trying to put in odd characters :-/
[13:19] <shades> apt-get really needs to be ble to specify to reap through a proxy
[13:19] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: How would you put in the extended ascii 195 for instance from http://www.asciitable.com/
[13:19] <auronandace> !fixapt | Xtreme
[13:19] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, yeah I was unable to execute it at all.. though now I'm trying to reinstall it so I don't have it atm to try ;p
[13:20] <bobweaver> Firartix,  what do you get with sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager  I could be wrong on this one please read up
[13:20] <acicula> llutz: err im on 64bit and i dont see that dependency show up for wine
[13:20] <ayaka> thank you all
[13:20] <nimesh_accenture> guys i'm  getting this error on ubuntu-core 11.10 chrooted on Android ICS :  Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com' . is this a DNS issue? i changed /etc/resolve.conf with my local DNS ip add... the ubuntu-server version 11.10 works fine..
[13:20] <llutz> acicula: i'm on 64bit too and thats a line from "apt-cache depends wine", but i'm on debian...
[13:20] <LordXe-gnu> (this looks bad because it's leaving ia32-libs unresolved as llutz mentioned I might need)
[13:20] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: are you some real newbie in linux ? asking because of need to decide what way out i'll point you
[13:21] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: In doss command.com, it's straightforward: while holding alt, press 1,9,5
[13:21] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, no I've been around the linux block so to speak ;p
[13:21] <Firartix> bobweaver: it lists up the display managers, ie. awesome/mutter/fluxbox/etc
[13:21] <Xtreme> auronandace: same error
[13:21] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I tried that same procedure and got Capital A.
[13:21] <acicula> llutz: thats what i did too, wasnt in the list
[13:21] <LmAt> No, I get A with a tilde over it.
[13:21] <Firartix> * 0            /usr/bin/metacity       60        mode automatique
[13:21] <Firartix>   1            /usr/bin/awesome        20        mode manuel
[13:22] <llutz> acicula: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wine    lists ia32-libs
[13:22] <bobweaver> Firartix,  what is dm that you want ?
[13:22] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: Anytay, when an application attempts to write these characters to putty, they aren't displayed correctly.
[13:22] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: `set -x; exec 2>/tmp/wine_wrapper.log;' on the 2nd line of wine wrapper and happy debugging, should be quite easy
[13:22] <auronandace> Xtreme: try sudo apt-get install -f
[13:22] <Firartix> just lightdm
[13:22] <Firartix> instead of gdm
[13:23] <bobweaver> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:23] <Firartix> since it's not installed anymore <_<
[13:23] <Xtreme> thanks, it worked
[13:23] <Xtreme> trying to install pulseaudio to get audio working in firefox
[13:23] <auronandace> Xtreme: never kill apt-get
[13:23] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, I'm not able to convince wine to even execute ;p I think llutz may be on to i though... I have had this problem before where a lib for the wrong arch (either 32- or 64-bit) is "ignored" and everything just acts like it doesn't exist, hm.
[13:24] <acicula> llutz: indeed it does, i checked with precise, which uses wine1.4, its dropped there. so sorry for the confusion
[13:24] <mbrochh> hey guys... the app switching in Ubuntu is driving me crazy... I think I have already disabled the app switcher that comes with Unity, but the "normal" one is still not good. The problem is that it shows the open apps as an endless array of three items that rotate infinitively. Is there a way to just have the super oldschool normal appswitcher Windows used to have? Just show me a list of icons and
[13:24] <mbrochh>  they stay at their positions when I tab, when I reach the end of the list, the frame can jump to the beginning. After switching, another
[13:24] <bobweaver> Firartix,  might need sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm 1st same place in the end
[13:24] <Xtreme> damn, iyou are right.. i killed it
[13:24] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, but thanks for the suggestion I will see if I can squeeze any info out of it
[13:24] <Firartix> uuuuuuuh strangely reconfigure says lightdm isn't installed
[13:24] <Firartix> even though it's launched right now
[13:24] <llutz> acicula: well, precise is not part of the discussion here (yet) ;)
[13:24] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: yes, of course you will
[13:24] <bobweaver> umm
[13:25] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: with debugging script you clearly see where it fails and if you know where it fails you can fix it
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix,  did you try with gdm in place of lightdm ?
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix,  does that see it ?
[13:26] <Firartix> well gdm isn't installed at all
[13:26] <acicula> llutz: yeah i am aware :)
[13:26] <Xtreme> auronandace: it worked after insalling pulseaudio
[13:26] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, this wine wrapper, it's a script that exists or you are suggesting that I wrap wine itself in a script to redirect stderr?
[13:26] <Firartix> but re-installing it seems to prompt for which dm to use
[13:26] <Firartix> should be good now
[13:26] <bobweaver> Firartix,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm   ?
[13:26] <Firartix> thanks
[13:27] <bobweaver> Firartix,  \o/
[13:30] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: /usr/bin/wine == wine wrapper in my terminology as far as you've reported that ldd failed thus it's script ;)
[13:31] <Xtreme> how can i kill pulseaudio dameon?
[13:31] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: so backup this one and start there
[13:31] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, it's not a script; file reports a 32-bit ELF
[13:31] <srinivasarao> 3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?
[13:32] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, it's also strange that bash would try to execute /usr/bin/wine when I type only "wine" if the file wasn't there... I think this is a libs problem :/
[13:32] <nettezzaumana> ah, i badly rereaded .. not dynamic executable
[13:32] <bobweaver> Xtopherus,  ps aux | grep [p]ulseaudo    what is pid ?
[13:32] <nepta> hello everyone! i would like to know if there are a graphical way to configure my touchpad sensibility
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> srinivasarao  you may need usb-modeswitch
[13:32] <bobweaver> dang it Xtreme  ^^
[13:32] <srinivasarao> initially it used to work fine
[13:32] <srinivasarao> recently it stopped working
[13:33] <srinivasarao> showing ,modem disconnected ,you are off line at network manager
[13:33] <srinivasarao> but working well with windows
[13:33] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: well, you have to first ensure yourself, that the wine package itself is not broken and installed, once you accomplish this you can go futher
[13:33] <nettezzaumana> **further
[13:34] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, I try remove --purge and install on it, that seemed to go all right, minus some ominous warnings from apt
[13:34] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, also curious, file reports it as dynamic
[13:35] <bluegoon> Is it better to install the x32 bit version of Ubuntu, rather than the x64 bit?
[13:35] <srinivasarao> 3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?
[13:35] <bluegoon> srinivasarao: Try a different USB port?
[13:35] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  depends on Ram and cpu IMHO
[13:35] <BlouBlou> bluegoon: it is better if you have a 32-bits machine
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> bluegoon  depends on your hardware, 32 runs on both 32 and 64 bit, but 64 runs on 64bit hardware only
[13:35] <bluegoon> BlouBlou: Hi there, I have an i5 processor.
[13:36] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  what is ram ?
[13:36] <bluegoon> Are there any performance differences between the 32 and 64 bit variants?
[13:36] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  in terminal do a     free -m
[13:36] <bluegoon> bobweaver: 4 gigs, do RAM ammounts not only matter with Windows 64/32?
[13:37] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  I would go 64 as 12.04 is not multi arch
[13:37] <bobweaver> s|not|now
[13:37] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852101 seems relevant, going to have a read and see if they have any ideas there
[13:37] <BlouBlou> bluegoon: 64-bits uses more ram, but it compiles faster
[13:37] <BlouBlou> no idea if it has a better perfomance
[13:37] <bluegoon> BlouBlou: OK thank you
[13:38] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  I am on 64bit right now and love it I have i3 with 4 gigs ram
[13:38] <Timmy> is kernel 3.3 available for ubuntu 11.10?
[13:38] <bobweaver> Timmy 3.4r3 I think it lastest in mainline
[13:38] <bluegoon> bobweaver: Sounds good
[13:38] <bobweaver> !mainline | Timmy
[13:38] <auronandace> Timmy: officially no
[13:38] <Timmy> is there any applet to show the speed of network connection? something like netspeed in gnome
[13:39] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, the workaround at the top appears to have resolved it :D thanks for hanging in there with me ;p also thanks llutz and MrKeuner
[13:39] <bobweaver> Timmy apt-cache search bandwidth monitor
[13:40] <bobweaver> !info bmon
[13:40] <Codesleuth> Is there a way to print all UFW rules when it's disabled? All I get is "Status: inactive" with status numbered
[13:40] <Duality> how to unzip from command line (.zip file)
[13:41] <BlouBlou> Codesleuth: no idea, but I'm sure that you can get that list with gufw
[13:41] <Foggalong> I'm trying to install the Medibuntu updates but it keeps saying they're not from a trusted source :/
[13:41] <Pici> Duality: unzip file.zip
[13:41] <SunTsu> Duality: unzip zipfile?
[13:41] <Codesleuth> BlouBlou: ubuntu server
[13:41] <Codesleuth> isn't gufw for desktop?
[13:42] <Duality> lol i tried gzip and it now is file.zip.gz
[13:42] <Duality> how do i uncompress .gz ?
[13:42] <LjL> Duality: gunzip
[13:42] <BlouBlou> mhh.. yeah, I thought you were using a desktop enviroment
[13:42] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  do you mess with iptables ?
[13:42] <Duality> (sorry bit of a newb here)
[13:42] <viceman011> Duality: now you gzipped it, ungzip it by running gzip -d file.zip.gz
[13:42] <mbeierl> I have an ISP that hijacks all DNS queries and responds with answers from their own servers.  They also have an SOA record for .local, which means Avahi/network discovery is completely broken for me at home now.  The ISP is not going to fix this situation any time soon.  Does anyone have any clues on how to get around this and make Avahi work again?
[13:42] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: I want to print the current rules without enabling it
[13:43] <viceman011> Duality: and then unzip file.zip
[13:43] <SunTsu> Duality: You might want to read stuff about linux and/or ubuntu basics instead of asking inside a ubuntu support channel, though
[13:43] <viceman011> yeah, you'd get faster answer on google :)
[13:43] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: I understand I can just look at the iptables but I was just curious to see if there was a way to use the ufw rules list
[13:43] <bluegoon> SunTsu: Think the chat support is great for interactive learning :)
[13:44] <Duality> no i now how to do stuff from command line :) been using ubuntu server for quite a while now, just didn't know how to unzip file's :)
[13:44] <Duality> newb to --> unzipping files
[13:44] <SunTsu> bluegoon: I don't think so, because it wastes everybody's time
[13:44] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: I thought we were volunteering
[13:44] <li0s> Does anyone know why suddenly my folder ~/.local/Trash/Expunged filled up my Disk free space becoming my Distro unable to boot?
[13:45] <Pumpkin-> mbeierl: ergh, that sounds like a horrific ISP :/
[13:45] <li0s> becoming=forcing*
[13:45] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  have  you looked under /etc/ufw/before/after.rules   ?
[13:45] <srinivasarao> how to install usb mode switch in ubuntu 11.10
[13:45] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: so if you think that answering a "noob" question is a waste of time, just don't do it. Well it's my opinion
[13:45] <Codesleuth> bobweaver, no, but I guess the answer you're suggesting is "no" :p
[13:46] <mbeierl> Pumpkin-, yep.  Welcome to living in Ottawa, Canada - where if you are rural, yet in the city limits, you MUST use this horrid ISP called Xplornet.  No alternative available.  And I can't get them to fix their busted DNS
[13:46] <bobweaver> yeah /etc/ is usally where confiuration files are but I would also goolge that
[13:46] <SunTsu> BlouBlou: docs are there for a reason
[13:46] <bobweaver> Codesleuth, ^^
[13:46] <nepta> i can move my mouse without touching my touchpad, can i reduce the sensibility somehow ?
[13:46] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: we're here for a reason ;)
[13:46] <bluegoon> SunTsu: Alot of the docs arent really mainstream friendly.
[13:47] <mbeierl> nepta, Telekenesis? :)
[13:47] <bobweaver> nepta,  go under system settings ---> mouse-->touchpad
[13:47] <nepta> bobweaver: there aren't any option for the sensitivity : (
[13:48] <bobweaver> Oo
[13:48] <ziyadb> Would it be acceptable to completely forgo the use of a swap partition given large enough RAM?
[13:48] <Oryel> moze ktos pomoze z post fixsem
[13:49] <bobweaver> nepta, http://postimage.org/image/oj8aejokn/full/
[13:49] <twikzer> hola?
[13:49] <sent> !es | twikzer
[13:49] <Pumpkin-> mbeierl: short of tunneling the DNS traffic or something similar to escape the ISP's DNS hijacking, or running your own local caching DNS server (with it configured to return NXDOMAIN for .local) I can't really think of what else you can do
[13:50] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: fyi "UFW show listening" shows listening and matching rules - sort of half of what I need ;)
[13:50] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  \0/
[13:51] <mbeierl> Pumpkin-, I am running dnsmasq, but I can't seem to tell it to return nx for .local.  I read somewhere that as long as an SOA exists, it's broken
[13:53] <nepta> bobweaver: http://postimage.org/image/l408v0mup/ (what the soft you use for the configuration?)
[13:54] <Duality> i love ubuntu server ^^
[13:54] <bobweaver> nepta, just stock unity stuff not lxde
[13:55] <Sevith> I get an error with GCc saying -lcuda is not found. How can I fix this? Im trying to install pyrit/CUDA
[13:55] <Sevith> with an nvida 560M
[13:56] <Sevith> Also should ld paths ever be set?
[13:56] <Sevith> ld library path*
[14:01] <jalal_> hey guys
[14:01] <Sevith> hi
[14:01] <jalal_> need help
[14:01] <Sevith> With?
[14:02] <Red_Baron> Hello Everyone
[14:02] <jalal_> with update
[14:02] <Sevith> ok?
[14:02] <jalal_> i am not able to update via apt-get update
[14:02] <Sevith> Ok? what error does it throw>
[14:02] <Patil_great>  Hi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard
[14:02] <jalal_> it only shows connect to repostriy
[14:02] <jalal_> but not connectiong
[14:02] <Sevith> do
[14:03] <Sevith> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <Sevith> lol
[14:03] <jalal_> this also not work
[14:03] <compdoc> jalal_, update only refreshes the server lists. upgrade applies update/upgrades
[14:03] <jalal_> apt-get install anysoft
[14:03] <jalal_> doest work
[14:03] <compdoc> you must do sudo apt-get
[14:03] <jalal_> i m root brother
[14:03] <Sevith> then you shouldnt be in xchat
[14:03] <Sevith> lol
[14:03] <Sevith> as root
[14:03] <Sevith> or
[14:03] <jalal_> i mean
[14:03] <FloodBot1> Sevith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <jalal_> su
[14:03] <Sevith> irc*
[14:03] <compdoc> root is evil
[14:04] <Sevith> Anyone know gcc -lcuda cpyrit pyrit cuda nvid 560M plz plz...
[14:04] <jalal_> i knows
[14:04] <Patil_great> Hi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard
[14:04] <jalal_> any solution for that?
[14:05] <compdoc> what happens when you run the command?
[14:05] <jalal_> yes
[14:05] <compdoc> what errors?
[14:05] <jalal_> i will post out put
[14:06] <compdoc> ok
[14:06] <jalal_> it only show connecting
[14:06] <maexwell> hi
[14:06] <maexwell> im in need of help
[14:06] <sent> !ask | maexwell
[14:07] <jalal_> my net is fast
[14:07] <jalal_> but why i am not able to install via apt-get
[14:07] <compdoc> can you ping sites like google?
[14:07] <landono> I'm currently working with a server that is a slave to one of our mysql servers. The replication is about 14 hours behind, and I'm trying to figure out what's bottlenecking it. While the cpu usage is about 7-8%, the server is running two 6 core amd processors, and from what I've read mysql replication is a single threaded process. While I think the bottleneck is the cpu, a co-worker of mine thinks it may be the io on th storage that's killing it.
[14:07] <landono> Anyone have any advice on what tools I should use and how I should run them to figure out which one is causing this issue?
[14:08] <jalal_> yes i can ping
[14:08] <Kircle> Where do I go to submit a bug about the Linux kernel?
[14:08] <jalal_> what is bug kircle?
[14:09] <Patil_great> i am trying to cross compile cxp210 driver for arm for pandaboard i am getting /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic/arch/arm/include/asm/irqflags.h:12:5: warning: "__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__" is not defined
[14:09] <intore___> hi, hope someone can help me even if this is ubuntu channel. am configuring an ldap server on debian squeeze. i    installed and configured nslcd but i can't see all the user  of   the directory ldap. i created an user on ldap used by  nslcd for   lookups and i put it in the nslcd.conf as binddn  but it doesn't   run. do you have ideas?
[14:09] <Kircle> jalal_ Ever since updating to '3.4.0-030400rc2-generic' one out of ten times I go into hibernation it'll freeze. I then have to force shutdown as I'm unable to do anything.
[14:10] <maexwell> !ask i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash
[14:10] <llutz> intore___: this is #ubuntu only, you want to ask in #debian
[14:11] <martian> I'm connected to a 10.04.4LTS VPS hosted that was configured by an ISP. My shell environment doesn't have the fancy ubuntu command autocomplete working. What can I do to enable it?
[14:11] <keber> hi
[14:11] <maexwell> did you see my message i putted !ask in front of it
[14:11] <gvo> martian be sure you are running bash
[14:11] <intore___> llutz: i know and i did it but nobody answers me! thanks anyway
[14:11] <Pumpkin-> martian: try installing "bash-completion"
[14:11] <keber> do you know why clock have 24 hours, 60 minutes and 3600 seconds
[14:12] <martian> gvo: I am. Pumpkin- ahh, thanks. Just wasn't sure where to begin looking.
[14:12] <llutz> keber: do you have any ubuntu related question?
[14:12] <wurmt0ngue> I accidentally removed the battery charge indicator/mail/user icons from the panel up top, can anyone tell me how to get those back?
[14:13] <Kircle> Where do I go to submit a Linux kernel bug?
[14:13] <maexwell> Here is my problem.. i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash
[14:14] <tapas> hi, is there a tool that can extract layers from a photoshop psd file automatically?
[14:14] <iceroot> maexwell: bash is the place where you put the terminal commands
[14:14] <gvo> wurmt0ngue: Right click on the menu bar and add  "Indicator applet"
[14:14] <iceroot> Kircle: lkml.org
[14:14] <maexwell> oh okay. I liked the old fashioned way
[14:15] <iceroot> Kircle: but easier is "ubuntu-bug linux" and our kernel.maintainers will report it upstream if needed
[14:15] <gvo> !12.04| maexwell
[14:15] <martian> Pumpkin-: bash-completion did the trick; thanks!
[14:15] <Kircle> iceroot ah thanks I'll try the latter
[14:15] <iceroot> kjs: but please only when you are using the ubuntu-kernel
[14:15] <wurmt0ngue> can anyone tell me what the name of the applet is in gnome that has battery charge indicator, i need to re add it
[14:15] <iceroot> kjs: wrong nick
[14:16] <gvo> wurmt0ngue: I suggested a fix did it not work?
[14:17] <finnguy> this probably isn't some regular computer help channel, please forward me elsewhere if you know a better one.. but i've got a new computer and I can't get sounds working well. they crackle A LOT
[14:17] <JohnnyricoMC> Are you using Windows or Ubuntu on it?
[14:17] <finnguy> Ubuntu now
[14:17] <JohnnyricoMC> hmmmm
[14:18] <JohnnyricoMC> You're sure everything is plugged in properly?
[14:19] <finnguy> I think so... Sound device is integrated i think? I try to use speakers from the back of computer, a lot  crackling. I try to use headphones from front, same thing.
[14:19] <JohnnyricoMC> If everything is plugged in properly and the problem persists, then I have "good" news: it could be a known problem
[14:19] <JohnnyricoMC> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1759570
[14:22] <pteague_work> anybody know how /var/run/motd is generated?
[14:22] <JohnnyricoMC> I believe it's fetched from /etc/motd?
[14:22] <finnguy> ok. im using 10.04. with the mainboard came some other small live cd operating system, probably linux based , called winki3.. there was crackling too.
[14:22] <finnguy> not as much though
[14:23] <finnguy> in ubuntu, it crackles like hell
[14:23] <Rienzilla> pteague_work: I think it's a script that puts uname -a and /etc/motd together
[14:25] <pteague_work> Rienzilla, i've been trying to figure out why a couple of our boxes keep saying they need to be rebooted when the guy that last updated insists he already rebooted them so i'm thinking there's a bit more than that
[14:26] <dgtl> hi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install 11.2.202.233ubuntu0.11.04.2, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple, i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this
[14:27] <pteague_work> aha... i think i figured out the issue... update-motd is not installed
[14:28] <Nucleus> Which is the name of the programme that runs the desktop as a 3D cube and also makes the opended windows looks like papers ?
[14:28] <josefig> someone knows why this is happening: a Console is over everything if I open another window: http://josefigueroa.me/images/overflow-terminal-window.png it happens on unity, I tried KDE and is not happening
[14:28] <auronandace> Nucleus: compiz fusion
[14:28] <dgtl> compiz-fusion i guess
[14:29] <Nucleus> Thank you
[14:29] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop?
[14:29] <Peanut> Hi folks - where could I find the netboot images of Precise Pangolin Beta 2? I've been looking all over the site.
[14:29] <splnet> How do I download the source for kernel version 3.0.0-17-generic ?
[14:30] <auronandace> !source
[14:30] <troubled> good day fine folks of #ubuntu :)
[14:31] <troubled> I have a question about xfce+thunar+lvm, but I am on an plain ubuntu install, not specifically xubuntu. Would it be better to ask xfce related stuff here or #xubuntu?
[14:31] <auronandace> troubled: either is ine
[14:32] <auronandace> fine
[14:32] <troubled> auronandace: ahh, very well then, ty
[14:33] <nvictor> hai all o/
[14:33] <nvictor> so why can't i add new links to pg_wrapper?
[14:33] <troubled> Well, to summarize, I dist-upgraded from 10.04 all the way up to 11.10 the other day, and then moved from gnome+unity to lightdm->xfce4 session for my login. All is setup nice, except that I find that thunar (which I set in preferred apps) doesn't see my LVM LV's now :(
[14:33] <s4lt-f4t44s> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYPABCJvneU&feature=fvsr
[14:34] <troubled> I looked at the udisk enumeration list, and they are all there, but just thunar doesn't wanna show me them anymore. I did fiddle and get naut to show them for a bit, but even that seems to have stopped now
[14:34] <tbrown> I have a ?ion to ask can I Develop linux destro with Visual Studio?
[14:34] <auronandace> tbrown: i sincerely doubt it
[14:35] <tbrown> auronandace: What is the Development Code for Ubuntu is it C++ or Just C
[14:36] <auronandace> tbrown: i know some bits are python
[14:36] <splnet> auronandace: I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 17
[14:36] <dgtl> hi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install 11.2.202.233ubuntu0.11.04.2, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple (white ppl are looking like smurfs), i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this
[14:37] <auronandace> dgtl: check hardware accelleration
[14:37] <Pici> dgtl: right click on the video to get to your flash preferences and toggle hardware acceleration.
[14:38] <troubled> also while I am here (for any of the UI folks here), a comment on unity: It's nice on its own if I were starting from scratch install and settings. But loosing all my panel sensors and moving my 30+ panel icons into one big mashed up/angled list on the side of my screen, was very painful, thus my move to xfce. perhaps better migration of existing layout would have been better :)
[14:38] <auronandace> troubled: i doubt any unity developers are here, so your comment wouldn't be seen by them
[14:39] <Pici> troubled: #ubuntu-unity is their home.
[14:39] <troubled> auronandace: you never know. besides, the distro folks can always augment stuff :)
[14:39] <Pici> #ubuntu is strictly support.
[14:39] <dgtl> auronandace, Pici, thanks, that fixed the problem, but not using hw acceleration is not really a solution to this
[14:39] <troubled> Pici: *nod*
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| troubled
[14:40] <troubled> MonkeyDust: oh neat, thanks, ill take a look later
[14:40] <splnet> Is this the right area to ask about ubuntu kernel source issues, or is there a better channel?
[14:40] <dgtl> it seems like this problem was known to ubuntu, i wonder why they took the new flash package into their package-tree
[14:42] <dgtl> okay, i guess after unity, there is not much left to wonder about...
[14:42] <ThadiusB> what type of graphics card is the least problematic setting up in 10.04 ??
[14:43] <dgtl> ubuntu 11.4 - the last usable ubuntu
[14:43] <compdoc> naw
[14:43] <compdoc> not true
[14:43] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[14:43] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[14:44] <dgtl> compdoc, its totally true (at least for me), as a *nix sysadmin, you can be 100% sure that you dont want to work with unity
[14:44] <dgtl> thats a total mess
[14:44] <LjL> please keep this about support
[14:44] <tomasm-> hi, in ubuntu, is there a way with a toolbar applet, etc that can change my keyboard to use a cyrillic (russian) alphabet layout? i'd like a real easy way to switch alphabets so I can start typing something in russian on a webpage
[14:44] <dgtl> LjL, showstopper!
[14:44] <SunTsu> dgtl: what does using unity have to do with being a system administrator? And why on earth don't you use something else?
[14:44] <meganerd> Lint: what remote protocol are you using?
[14:45] <Lint> tomasm-, gnome does it automatically and put the icon to notification area
[14:45] <compdoc> I use ubuntu desktop on several servers, ranging in versions from 10.04 to 11.10. No problems - its all stable. And Unity is just a bit annoying, but its useable
[14:45] <Lint> meganerd, no remote, it´s fstab mounted partition
[14:45] <LjL> tomasm-: type "keyboard layout" in unity, add a Russian layout, and the icon will appear
[14:45] <meganerd> compdoc: why bother with X on a server?
[14:45] <meganerd> Lint: which fs is it?
[14:46] <tomasm-> Lint,  I use classic gnome, not unity
[14:46] <Lint> tomasm-, the default swith combination may be shift/shift
[14:46] <Lint> meganerd, ext3
[14:46] <compdoc> I like gui desktops - comes from years of Windows use
[14:46] <dgtl> SunTsu, i mean, its not only ubuntus fault, i hate gnome-shell aswell, i'm just not able to do my work with unity, thats all
[14:46] <compdoc> and Mac
[14:46] <meganerd> Lint: which user is 500?
[14:46] <LjL> can we please move the Unity etc discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:46] <tomasm-> Lint, do you know if there's a keyboard layout tool in gnome classic?
[14:46] <SunTsu> dgtl: use something else, problem solved, now back to ubuntu support
[14:47] <Lint> tomasm-, moving keyboard switch to gnome-session-daemon predates unity
[14:47] <auronandace> dgtl: you can only work with gnome2 and you call yourself a sysadmin?
[14:47] <dgtl> auronandace, theres a difference between knowing how to use something and being productive with it
[14:48] <splnet> Any other ideas how to get source for linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic ? I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 17
[14:48] <Lint> meganerd, I don´t remember. my user account which can access the files is 1000, though
[14:48] <LjL> stop the bickering about Unity and sysadmins
[14:48] <LjL> or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <dgtl> SunTsu, not so easy to find something that fits, okay, end of topic
[14:48] <Lint> tomasm-, do you have russain keyboard added?
[14:48] <ThadiusB> so what graphics cards have people had success with?
[14:48] <troubled> is there anyone here perhaps that uses xfce4 in 11.10, and has LVM? if so, I wouldn't mind knowing if it works as expected, mine seems to be broken atm (manual mounting only)
[14:49] <Lint> ThadiusB, for what purpose?
[14:49] <tomasm-> Lint, no, I don't know how.... is the keyboard layout tool youre talkin about 'libgnomekbd' or 'gkbd-applet'?
[14:49] <RyoRonin> nvidia graphics chipsets
[14:49] <troubled> specifically when using thunar though as file manager, i should add. the problem is that I seem to be missing my LV's from the thunar side panel that normally has the option to mount/unmount them
[14:49] <Lint> gnome-control-center
[14:50] <Lint> applet is dead and gone
[14:50] <tomasm-> Lint, ah, ok thanks
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: grep 500 /etc/passwd
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: of course "sudo chown -R" is your friend.
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: sudo chmod is also your friend
[14:51] <genii-around> I don't think there is usually a user or service with uid of 500 in Ubuntu
[14:51] <Lint> meganerd, it works without chown in other distro
[14:51] <Lint> but ubuntu has no access
[14:51] <idkguy> anyone ever installed joomla to a lamp server? how to i add the json support for php?
[14:52] <Lint> sadly its fstab in on ext4 filesystem which I cannot browse now
[14:52] <StR> I have a question about chmod,  is it possible to set some flags with it, so that everytime a file is created in that folder it has write perms for the group... is that possible? is this the right channel to ask?
[14:53] <meganerd> Lint: create a group on both distros, manually specify the GUID, then chown to that group
[14:53] <troubled> StR: you mean like a umask perhaps?
[14:53] <troubled> StR: or do you mean just for specific dirs/files?
[14:53] <meganerd> StR: sticky bit, google for unix file permissions
[14:53] <wangor> is there any difference between using "/etc/init.d/servicename start" vs "service servicename start" vs "start servicename" ?
[14:53] <StR> troubled, probably but haven't find how
[14:54] <Ca11um> I have downloaded a login theme, with the file 'GdmGreeterTheme.desktop'...
[14:54] <Ca11um> How do I install it as my login theme?
[14:54] <Lint> I share my uid already, shouldn´t it be enough?
[14:54] <idkguy> how do i add json support to a map server? it doesnt seem like in included it by default
[14:54] <meganerd> Lint: but the files are not owned by that UID
[14:54] <troubled> StR: sorry, i missed the second part in this wall-o-text about the write perms for group. you mean like g+ws i think
[14:54] <meganerd> 500:500 is user:group
[14:54] <Lint> meganerd, then how you will explain the user 1000 can access them?
[14:55] <meganerd> Lint: chances are your user is part of a group with GID of 500 on the other distro
[14:55] <Lint> *that...
[14:55] <StR> meganerd, yes.. I found it's possible to set the sicky bit for all new files to be owned by a specific group, but not to force it to be g+w
[14:55] <genii-around> wangor: /etc/init.d/whatever calls the old sysvinit way, the other two use upstart ( which may or may not then in turn call /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf to run those old ones in /etc/init.d )
[14:55] <gregL> idkguy: One of my servers needed libjson-perl ,perhaps that will help.. Just a shot..
[14:55] <Lint> meganerd, ok I will check it out
[14:55] <tomasm-> Lint, thanks, it works great now, and I have a keystroke to toggle it.... you know if it's possible to say the layout on the toolbar icon? ie "EN", "RU", etc
[14:55] <wangor> genii-around: thanks
[14:55] <idkguy> gregL did you install it with apt-get?
[14:55] <gregL> yes
[14:56] <gregL> idkguy, yes
[14:56] <Lint> tomasm-, icon is placed into notification area
[14:56] <idkguy> gregL cool ill try that
[14:56] <Lint> it should show the keyboard icon and ¨Rus¨ or  ¨Eng¨ text
[14:56] <tomasm-> Lint, yes i see the icon, it just looks like a keyboard rather than say anything on top of the icon as to what layout/language, etc is active. i have to click on it to find out, i was hoping there could be something visible at all times
[14:57] <Lint> you don´t see text?
[14:57] <tomasm-> Lint, no, just the icon
[14:58] <tomasm-> Lint, it may be because its gnome classic
[14:58] <troubled> StR: personally I would suggest looking into umasks if you want newly created files to have certain permissions by default. the default is 0022, but it sounds like you want at least some process to be more like 0002 or something similar
[14:58] <StR> troubled, right, but for a specific folder
[14:59] <troubled> StR: well, thats the limitation i suppose. unless you had 1 specific process that only wrote to that dir that you could setup a pam setup environment that set the umask for it
[15:00] <troubled> StR: otherwise I suppose you could enter the realm of mandatory access controls (MAC) and allow more liberal DAC (discretionary/file permissions) and restrict things via something like apparmour or selinux. but thats getting a little complicated
[15:00] <WolfDev> does anyone know how I can get the version of Ubuntu?
[15:01] <Lint> tomasm-, gnome shell shows the language code like ¨en¨ instead, you could try it
[15:01] <troubled> StR: that, or patch the software in question to specifically do what you need
[15:01] <Lint> WolfDev, /etc/lsb-release file
[15:01]  * troubled ponders about directory monitoring solution
[15:01] <StR> troubled, let me tell you what my problem is, I'm probably stuck in "my" solution.
[15:01] <WolfDev> Lint, thanks.
[15:01] <compdoc> WolfDev, or the command:    lsb_release -a
[15:02] <WolfDev> let me try that one too.
[15:03] <WolfDev> permission denied
[15:03] <compdoc> I can run lsb_release -a without using sudo
[15:03] <StR> troubled, I have a folder, /var/www with the website to be shown by apache,  the files to that folder is handled by SVN, so when I do svn up, all the files in that folder get in sync with the repository;  but there are times some other files are created by hand in the folder; the issue is that different users can ssh to the server and change the files in that folder
[15:04] <gvo> compdoc: what's it do when you try it?
[15:04] <compdoc> shows me the release
[15:04] <gvo> Then I guess you don't need sudo.
[15:04] <thebwt> is there a way to have a system automatically run a script (alert/alarm) if it is booted into single user mode?
[15:04] <compdoc> for this server - its 11.10
[15:04] <StR> troubled, with chmod g+s I was able to set that all the files in that folder are created under the same group, but now I need the files to be writtable by the same group
[15:04] <compdoc> maybe the command is different on other versions
[15:05] <troubled> StR: thats what a umask is good for. for example: cd /tmp ; umask ; touch foo ; umask 0002 ; touch bar ; umask 0022 ; ls -l foo bar
[15:05] <gvo> compdoc: It was available on 8.04
[15:06] <StR> troubled, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time
[15:06] <troubled> StR: well, you have numerous ways to setup the environment for users. like /etc/profile or their own home bashrc files etc
[15:06] <StR> troubled, the goal is for the user not needing to run anything as the user will forget to do that
[15:07] <troubled> StR: for example, I see a umask in /etc/profile here. although yours might be in /etc/profile.d/ somewhere too (i tweak my stock setup, so i can't say for sure). so you could for example add a umask to the profile for the whole system and try that
[15:08] <gvo> troubled: StR: you can set it by user but not by directory.
[15:08] <troubled> gvo: aye, that seems to be the problem specifically here
[15:09] <troubled> i suppose logout script or something to monitor the dir could be better. personally dont like weak umasks. but not so bad if its group only +w i guess
[15:11] <troubled> StR: perhaps something using inotify would be better? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=950939  has some recipies that might allow you to fire off a command to fix permissions
[15:11] <StR> troubled, checking, thanks
[15:13] <troubled> StR: if your svn server is local on the machine, post commit hooks could also work for you if you changed your workflow to prevent manual file creating in the www dir and force users through svn (probably good idea in general imho)
[15:14] <troubled> anyways, hope all this helps. linux always has a billion ways to do stuff :)
[15:14] <splnet> StR: also checkout newgrp : for instance user can do newgrp $OTHERGRP. then all operations will be done with $OTHERGRP permissions
[15:14] <gvo> str: you want users to change the files or you are trying to prevent that?
[15:14] <WolfDev> lsb_release
[15:15] <splnet> $OTHGRP group permissions
[15:15] <ph> privmsg
[15:15] <StR> gvo, I want to allow all the users in the same group to be able to create/write/delete files in a specific folder, doesn't matter who created it
[15:16] <nullhax> hey i just got a new laptop 3 months ago and im using ubuntu it is reporting bad sectors can that be correct?
[15:16] <splnet> StR: newgrp should work
[15:16] <iceroot> nullhax: yes
[15:16] <gvo> StR: OK
[15:16] <enthdegree> when building your own kernel, how do you specify a custom uname?
[15:16] <WolfDev> does anyone know how to move the min/max/close to the right top window in version 11.10?
[15:16] <nullhax> darn gotta send it back in
[15:16] <nullhax> thx
[15:16] <iceroot> enthdegree: when you are using the deb-file just edit the changelog
[15:17] <iceroot> !controls | WolfDev
[15:17] <WolfDev> thanks ubottu
[15:17] <gvo> WolfDev: hes a bot.
[15:17] <enthdegree> iceroot: I'm doing it through some soure I downloaded
[15:17] <troubled> bots need love too!
[15:17] <Brixius> Why is it that Ubuntu makes upgrading to the current LTS release(10.4) such a big pain.
[15:17] <gvo> lol
[15:18] <fl1bbl3> WolfDev: or you could just install xubuntu :)
[15:18] <enthdegree> xubuntu is nice
[15:18] <iceroot> Brixius: should we guess what your issue is?
[15:18] <Brixius> lol
[15:18] <compdoc> seems its best to install new versions from scratch
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Brixius  better wait a few more days if you plan to upgrade
[15:18] <gvo> Brixius: It worked fine for me.
[15:18] <iceroot> enthdegree: i guess #linux is then the correct source
[15:19] <troubled> enthdegree: oh hey, I assume you are using xfce. curious, are you using lvm at all with thunar? Im here for a problem where my LV's don't show up, but nobody seems to be speaking up yet :(
[15:19] <obscurant1st> My bluetooth headset is not working. It being shown there and I'm able to connect. But the sound is not coming through it! :/ Can somebody please help me?
[15:19] <StR> splnet, I read the newgrp man and I didn't understood how the new created files would have g+w perms with it
[15:20] <splnet> StR: are all users using the same default group?
[15:20] <enthdegree> troubled: are you booting from LVs or is this an external lv that you want to look at?
[15:20] <Brixius> this has got to bigest bug in ubuntu, which I don't get, it was possible to upgrade along the way, but someone somewhere made the decision to A) move the repos, there still online, so why make everyone update there system.  B) disable or not include a check to see what the next release is to goto for do-dist-upgrade.
[15:21] <StR> splnet, yes
[15:21] <troubled> enthdegree: nah, its boot lvm. my /usr and /var work fine, but since I upgraded to 11.10 and switched to xfce, I dont have the list of lv's in the thunar file browser like I did in gnome (which worked fine in 11.10)
[15:21] <splnet> StR: and you want group permissions g+w for the defaul group only?
[15:22] <StR> splnet, doesn't matter, but in the end yes
[15:22] <troubled> enthdegree: i can manually mount still just fine, and udisk enumeration shows everything is seen at least. but thunar doesn't show anyhting lvm related at all, and I enabled "enable logical volume management" in the prefs too
[15:23] <enthdegree> troubled: does it not show up even after after it is manually mounted
[15:23] <troubled> enthdegree: I should mention though that it seems gnome has control of my desktop itself instead of xfce, so im wondering if naut is hijacking something that is causing the problem
[15:23] <troubled> don't think so, but let me double check
[15:24] <troubled> enthdegree: no, one of my volumes is mounted now from lvm and its not in the list (short of me browsing to the /media mount point for it)
[15:24] <splnet> StR: if all users have the SAME primary group, then umask will work. If there is a user that has a DIFFERENT primary group, then they will need to use newgrp + umask. Make sense?
[15:24] <enthdegree> troubled: was it ever working through thunar?
[15:24] <enthdegree> troubled: it soundds like you installed xubuntu and then later installed some gnome suite
[15:25] <troubled> enthdegree: don't know, I originally install this as a 9.x install, and upgraded over the years. it wasn't until yesterday that I got 11.10 and switched to xfce and noticed it
[15:25] <obscurant1st> somebody please?
[15:25] <troubled> enthdegree: originally this was a stock ubuntu install, with manual apt-get of xfce4 years ago. seems xfce might be missing something or conflicting with gnome somehow, but not sure other than to try remove gnome
[15:26] <StR> splnet, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time they are going to update the content in that folder.. and that's what I don't want as they will forget
[15:26] <enthdegree> right, but that would be a hassle and may create other problems.
[15:26] <troubled> ya, thats what im worried about
[15:26] <Brixius> Sorry, had to vent, luckly it's on vmware, so I can create a snapshot prior to doing the cdupgrade. Just a pet peive of mine when governance of a product makes a stupid decision. IMO all upgrades should be available and functional, at a minimum from previous LTS Through Current LTS version.
[15:26] <yuds> hello, how much should I spare for swap on a box with 4gig ram?
[15:27] <enthdegree> troubled: does thunar even output anything incriminating when you run it in the terminal
[15:27] <ikonia> yuds: up to you
[15:27] <splnet> StR: just  add it to /etc/profile
[15:27] <troubled> enthdegree: is there any virtual package that you know of that would turn a stock ubuntu into xubuntu? in case im missing some depends or other. and sec, ill look at console output
[15:27] <yuds> ikonia: can you help a bit more?
[15:27] <enthdegree> troubled: there may be some hook that gnome has tekon over
[15:27] <enthdegree> *taken
[15:28] <enthdegree> troubled: not that I am aware of; the best way to get xubuntu is to install xubuntu...
[15:28] <troubled> enthdegree: ya, seems so. as for running "thunar", it just returns to console and no stderr output at all
[15:28] <ikonia> yuds: sure, you allocate as much swap as you need depending on your use, if your system will use more than 4GB of ram, then allocate swap to allow it to use disk, if your system idles a lot, allocate swap to allow it to swap out processes, if you want to suspect allocate enough swap to dump your whole ram at least
[15:28] <AngrySpam> I can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)
[15:30] <troubled> enthdegree: well I suppose im due for a nice fresh install soon anyways :) thx for help though
[15:30] <enthdegree> troubled: Have you seen this? I actually had a near-identical issue several years back but I completely forget how I solved it; this may go through it https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130748
[15:31] <troubled> looking
[15:31] <AngrySpam> so can anybody help me?
[15:31] <robertzaccour> How do I find out what kind of wireless card I have?
[15:31] <enthdegree> robertzaccour: try lspci
[15:31] <gvo> AngrySpam: New install or it's been working and broke?
[15:32] <ikonia> AngrySpam: research the "nomodeset" boot option
[15:32] <ZenMaster> Good morning gentlement on the West Coast of America with me.
[15:32] <ZenMaster> I have a question if anyone is awake?
[15:33] <ikonia> ZenMaster: just ask it
[15:33] <robertzaccour> enthdegree, Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE?
[15:33] <ZenMaster> Without having to edit each individual host file on my 30 windows machines. Do I have to setup a DNS server here on the local intranet so I can have a name represent my Ubuntu server instead of a Class C address.
[15:33] <ZenMaster> Or do I have to setup Bind.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: bind is a dns server
[15:34] <ZenMaster> Or is it something in Samba.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: you will need a name resolution service either on your linux machine or on your ubuntu machine
[15:34] <enthdegree> robertzaccour: Thhat doesn't look like it. try lspci | grep WLAN
[15:34] <ZenMaster> I might add that this is so they can view a corporate intranet website.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: it doesn't have to be dns, it can be "active directory", DNS, net mios etc.
[15:34] <ikonia> netbios naming
[15:34] <compdoc> editing the hosts file on even one machine is too much work
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: any name service, I'd suggest Active directory if all your clients are windows
[15:34] <roasted> Question - I want to report a bug, but it's regarding certain functionality of Fn keys. The ubuntu-bug feature requires me to select an application. How exactly would I report this particular item?
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Well I would hate to have to setup another WindowS Machine, or expel resources on the Ubuntu server box to Virtual BOX a windows SBS or something.
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Maybe with Net Bios might be the simplest solution.
[15:35] <Gnea> !kernel
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Thank you ikonia for your time.
[15:36] <robertzaccour> enthdegree, it didn't do anything, it just went to the next line no output
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> !bug| roasted
[15:36] <ikonia> roasted: most of the laptops with function keys have their own "vendor" application for the function keys, I'd log it to that package if it's an open source package on lanuchpad
[15:36] <troubled> enthdegree: tried a few things from there, no luck still. thanks anyways though
[15:36] <ikonia> roasted: if it's a closed source or a kernel patch or something like that, I'd report it to the vendor rather than ubuntu
[15:37] <ikonia> roasted: sony/thinkpad/samsung are common to have their own software
[15:37] <hemicuda> DID I JUST FART
[15:37] <harushimo> I want to setup samba properly in ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:37] <harushimo> I'm looking at the doc for the conf file what does security = user?
[15:37] <roasted> ikonia: hmm... do you have any idea how I would find that package on the laptop? it's a Toshiba... haven't used Toshiba in years
[15:37] <Gnea> !samba | harushimo
[15:38] <harushimo> thanks
[15:38] <ikonia> roasted: I "think" toshiba has it's own package, as it's acpi stuff is mental, a quick google should confirm/reject that
[15:38] <Gnea> harushimo: also, #samba for more specific questions on the config
[15:38] <bs> how can i know my ubuntu version?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> bs  lsb_release -sd
[15:38] <ikonia> bs: lsb_release -a
[15:38] <Gnea> bs: open a terminal, type:  lsb_release -a
[15:38] <roasted> ikonia: not to sound like an idiot, but what exactly should I be looking for? Toshiba.... what? Toshiba function control acpi package?
[15:38] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[15:38] <harushimo> thank you
[15:38] <ikonia> roasted: "toshiba linux function keys" something like that
[15:39] <ikonia> roasted: "toshiba $model linux function keys"
[15:39] <bradj> Is there a markdown format for linking to another bug in launchpad? e.g. [#12345]?
[15:39] <ikonia> roasted: you'll normally find a thread about someone ranting about the external package or the distro package, you can work it out from there
[15:39] <Gnea> harushimo: I also suggest installing and using swat
[15:39] <AngrySpam> I can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)
[15:40] <ikonia> AngrySpam: I told you what to do
[15:40] <ikonia> AngrySpam: did you do that ?
[15:40] <harushimo> what is swat? the gui interface for samba?
[15:40] <Gnea> how does one 'open' Ubuntu?
[15:40] <Gnea> harushimo: yeah, it's web-based
[15:40] <harushimo> when did they start this? I thought samba was more done through the terminal
[15:40] <harushimo> interesting...thank you
[15:41] <Gnea> harushimo: *years* ago
[15:41] <roasted> ikonia: sounds good. ironically I just found the bug already exists, so no need to pursue it besides adding a "yeah me too" on the report. :P
[15:41] <harushimo> really? I didn't know that
[15:41] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| AngrySpam
[15:42] <pratz> hey guys i just bought ipod shuffle 4th generation, but it would not work with ubuntu 10.04
[15:42] <Gnea> harushimo: we all learn something new everyday :)
[15:42] <A_J> !gpointer
[15:42] <Gnea> pratz: did you install gtkpod?
[15:43] <pratz> I used banshee to sync music, banshee transfered music wihtout any issue but when i start ipod it say "use itunes to syn music"
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> !ipod| pratz start here
[15:43] <A_J> MonkeyDust: can you see my question
[15:43] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:43] <pratz> Gnea: but transfer with banshee should work correct ? though i will try gtkpod
[15:43] <Gnea> pratz: banshee is not as ipod specific of an app that gtkpod is
[15:43] <AngrySpam> thanks for all our help guys! -.-
[15:44] <pratz> Gnea: ok, give me some time i will install gtkpod and try again
[15:45] <Gnea> pratz: take all the time you need
[15:45] <Gnea> !kernel
[15:45] <Gnea> there, forgot the url lol
[15:46] <A_J> Gnea: can you assist me for one noob question
[15:46] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:46] <troulouliou_dev> Hi since recent update, my touchpad is not working after a few seconds  on twi separate laptop, and i have to ue an external mouse . I m on 11.10 , Does anybody have a quick tip to resolve this i do not have tons of time for this issue atm
[15:47] <compdoc> you might hope version 12.04 fixes it. Its to be released soon
[15:48] <Gnea> A_J: well, there are a variety of trackpads, which one are you referring to, exactly?
[15:48] <A_J> Gnea: laptop trackpads mate,
[15:49] <Gnea> A_J: yes, that's a bit too generic... I have one, I don't do anything special to make it work...
[15:49] <Gnea> it "just works"
[15:50] <A_J> Gnea: actually i'm on lubuntu now and i'm looking for this option https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/mouse-disabletouchpad.html
[15:50] <A_J> it's not there
[15:51] <Gnea> A_J: what version of ubuntu?
[15:51] <nastas> could anyone help? after upgrade to 11.10 i lost my keyboard and mouse. no input devices work. the same with usb input devices
[15:51] <harushimo> I installed swat. how do i start the program
[15:51] <A_J> Gnea: 11.10
[15:52] <Gnea> A_J: ah, try system->mouse
[15:52] <troubled> harushimo: instead swat web based? if so, tried visiting via web browser, or reading the docs? :)
[15:52] <hemicuda> Hello
[15:52] <harushimo> I'm reading it right now
[15:52] <A_J> Gnea: using lubuntu.
[15:52] <harushimo> thank you
[15:52] <hemicuda> i need help
[15:52] <wylde> !help | hemi
[15:52] <Gnea> A_J: yeah, I don't know lubuntu... all I can guess is that there's a system menu of some sort
[15:52] <hemicuda> How do i add Icons to my desktop
[15:53] <A_J> Gnea: yea there is. there is no option to enable that, lookin for a cli method
[15:53] <hemicuda> I need help
[15:53] <ldiamond> How do I place get CPU/Network/HDD usage in the top panel in Unity?
[15:53] <Gnea> !repeat | hemicuda
[15:54] <RyoRonin> A_J, there is a #lubuntu also maybe they can assist furhter?
[15:54] <pratz> Gnea: hey dude thanks, worked with gtkpod
[15:54] <Gnea> A_J: don't know what the cli method would be... maybe #lubuntu knows
[15:54] <Gnea> pratz: cheers
[15:54] <A_J> RyoRonin: will try ty
[15:55] <A_J> ty Gnea, may i ask what gui do you use
[15:56] <hemicuda> How do i add icons to my ubuntu desktop
[15:56] <hemicuda> OMG
[15:56] <Gnea> A_J: E17
[15:56] <wylde> ldiamond: I haven't found a way yet.
[15:56] <A_J> E17 O_O
[15:56] <Gnea> yes
[15:56] <ldiamond> wylde, did anyone tell Canonical Unity is crap?
[15:56] <A_J> !e17
[15:58] <wylde> ldiamond: I'm sure plenty have. If you try xfce4 you can add those to the panels. With a bit of work you can get xfce looking/feeling like gnome2.
[15:59] <ldiamond> wylde, I was under xfce before, I found it lacked too much functionality.
[15:59] <wylde> ldiamond: you can still use the gnome tools, like I said thoguh. "With a bit of work"
[16:00] <wylde> !nounity | ldiamond
[16:00] <dewar> hi can some one help me with mounting a sata drive with kubuntu?
[16:00] <troulouliou_dev> ubottu, and any plan for cinnamon support ?
[16:01] <troulouliou_dev> (non bots) and any plan for cinnamon support ?
[16:01] <wylde> !mint
[16:01] <ldiamond> wylde, Yea I'm currently running a lubuntu install that I modified to run gnome. Now using Gnome Classic and Metacity. However I'm going to upgrade to 12.04 (or change distro if I'm unable to get a proper desktop setup)
[16:01] <ldiamond> wylde, so I want to know what can be done before taking time on it
[16:02] <wylde> ldiamond: I've made myself use unity for a while, it's starting to not feel so clunky. (I'm on 12.04 now).
[16:03] <wylde> ldiamond: same as the rest you can use whatever DE you choose :)
[16:03] <LordXe-gnu> I actually like how Unity hides the chrome by default so there's more usable screen real estate, but maybe that's just me
[16:03] <LordXe-gnu> not that I had any problem with gnome before
[16:04] <ldiamond> LordXe-gnu, yea but I don't like how you lose all the information you used to have in the top panel.
[16:04] <wylde> LordXe-gnu: I seriously disliked the globalmenu, so I removed the packages related to it right away. That alone made a big difference for me.
[16:04] <LordXe-gnu> wylde, oh, didn't realize you could remove just that bit of it
[16:04] <wylde> LordXe-gnu: yep you can +)
[16:04] <LordXe-gnu> ldiamond, hm.  I guess I never really looked anyway ;p
[16:04] <wylde> :)
[16:04] <ldiamond> LordXe-gnu, I also find it quite annoying to have the side bar. My gnome setup is with a single panel and I have plenty screen estate with 2 monitors and 6 virtual desktops
[16:05] <LordXe-gnu> ah
[16:05] <dooma09> hi. from command prompt i was able to run "sudo ..." commands but not today. now i'm getting error: "username is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[16:06] <wylde> ldiamond: you can choose to have the panel on one or all displays.
[16:06] <LordXe-gnu> "command prompt" :/
[16:06] <LmAt> Hi, there.  I'm having trouble with my ssh client.  It doesn't display some window-drawing extended ascii characters properly.
[16:06] <ldiamond> didn't know I was on #windows :p
[16:07] <LmAt> http://www.asciitable.com/ shows some codes.  For instance, number 196 is a vertical table line.  It shows up as little a with an hat (accent ague?). :(
[16:07] <ldiamond> LmAt, consider your shell as the issue rather than the SSH client
[16:07] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, as your user type "id", do you see a group named "admin"?
[16:07] <ldiamond> LmAt, that's Accent Grave
[16:08] <wylde> LmAt: best I can suggest is look into ncurses.
[16:08] <LordXe-gnu> I thought that hat was a circumflex
[16:08] <harushimo> i got swat working. I want to be access a directory in ubuntu while i'm on mac os x machine
[16:08] <ldiamond> LmAt, oh, hat, Accent Circonflexe
[16:08] <harushimo> how would I setup the directory in samba
[16:08] <LmAt> ldiamond: What does my shell have to do with it?
[16:08] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm using bash...
[16:08] <ldiamond> LmAt, isn't the shell displaying it?
[16:09] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: nope i don't see "admin". how do i add it?
[16:09] <wylde> LmAt: I think you might need an ncurses lib. Only suggestion I can come up with atm.
[16:09] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, well... with sudo ;) but more precisely from an account that can sudo... is this a different account than the one you were using before?
[16:09] <LmAt> ldiamond: um... my ssh client is displaying the program that is displaying those characters (tmux or elinks in this case).
[16:09] <ldiamond> LmAt, in bash, run 'local'
[16:09] <ldiamond> LmAt, in bash, run 'locale'
[16:10] <LmAt> ldiamond: okay.  What should I expect?  I see LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[16:10] <LmAt> and 10 or so others.
[16:10] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: this is same acct as before. I can temporary do "su" and type any commands and then exit
[16:10] <ldiamond> LmAt, "my ssh client is displaying", you're referring to x forwarding?
[16:10] <ZenMaster> If I added a user to www-data group would he be able to upload files to /var/www?
[16:10] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm using putty.
[16:10] <ldiamond> LmAt, in ubuntu?
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm running Microsoft Windows XP.
[16:11] <ldiamond> LmAt, this is #ubuntu
[16:11] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, oh, you have a root password. Well that's good enough. As root run "gpasswd -a USER admin" then log your user out / back in and see if it works
[16:11] <qhuyai> good night bro
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: Where should I look for help with putty for Windows?
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: I was hoping it would be a $TERM issue or something :(
[16:12] <LmAt> ldiamond: I guess I should see if putty for linux has the same issue...
[16:12] <ldiamond> LmAt, putty has a bunch of settings for that. Look through the setting window
[16:13] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: ok i'll try it and logout and login again
[16:13] <troubled> LmAt: http://fixunix.com/linux/2171-charset-putty.html   might help give you some insight
[16:13] <LmAt> ldiamond: thanks.
[16:13] <LmAt> troubled: thanks.  I'll have a look.
[16:14] <ldiamond> Anyone wants to play a game of Pioneers?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic  this is support :)
[16:15] <ja__> po polsku
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> !pl
[16:15] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, a game of pioneers will make people more joyful and get them to support more ;)
[16:16] <oCean> ldiamond: enough, it's offtopic here.
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <FloodBot1> dekokgri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <flokstry> ;hgaFfffffffffffffffffffffffaakuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikvgsyuuuuuuiodsa
[16:21] <Brixius> Woot, on 10.4, now, think I'll stay here until 12.4. Less painful then I thought, but still more work then it needed to be.
[16:21] <hemicuda> anyone there?
[16:21] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop?
[16:22] <Guest2375> clic droit>creer un lanceur
[16:23] <hemicuda> huh?
[16:23] <wylde> !fr | Guest2375
[16:24] <hemicuda> is Ubottu a bot
[16:24] <darktor> hello!
[16:24] <hemicuda> hello!
[16:24] <A_J> yes hemicuda
[16:24] <A_J> !ubottu | hemicuda
[16:25] <hemicuda> A_J, help me
[16:25] <A_J> hemicuda: ask you question, someone will
[16:25] <conscientia> Suspend/restart problem ?
[16:25] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop
[16:26] <wylde> !details
[16:26] <genii-around> hemicuda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[16:26] <hemicuda> i don't hvae unity
[16:26] <genii-around> hemicuda: Which desktop environment then?
[16:27] <hemicuda> Ubuntu
[16:27] <hemicuda> im new to this
[16:27] <A_J> hemicuda: drag and drop
[16:27] <hemicuda> i don't work
[16:27] <wylde> hemicuda: see the above factoid, we can't see your desktop, what version of ubuntu, or what de you are using. You have to give us details.
[16:27] <hemicuda> im using Oneiric
[16:27] <darktor> what new?
[16:27] <darktor> someone chek ubuntu 12.04?
[16:27] <hemicuda> you want to ssh with me via netcat
[16:28] <A_J> darktor: he means new to ubuntu
[16:28] <wylde> !ot | darktor
[16:28] <Fyodorovna> hemicuda, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[16:28] <Pici> darktor: #ubuntu+1 for discussion/support of 12.04
[16:28] <conscientia> Suspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is part of my Dmesg logs ..
[16:28] <conscientia>  0.564666] rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564697] rtc0: alarms up to one month, y3k, 114 bytes nvram, hpet irqs
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564817] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564919] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.15.0-ioctl (2009-04-01) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[16:28] <FloodBot1> conscientia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.565007] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.1.0 loaded
[16:28] <genii-around> hemicuda: "unity" is the default graphical interface of Ubuntu. So if you have stock install of Ubuntu, then you are using Unity as the way to interact with it
[16:28] <hemicuda> yes
[16:28] <wylde> !pastebin | conscientia
[16:28] <hemicuda> well
[16:29] <Fyodorovna> hemicuda, look at the link I gave you it tells you how to make a desktop launcher.
[16:29] <darktor> thanks!
[16:29] <hemicuda> yess i see it
[16:30] <hemicuda> but ubuntu is stupid
[16:30] <guest123>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:30] <hemicuda> why i have to intsall something just to create an desktop icon
[16:30] <hemicuda> nautilus
[16:31] <wylde> hemicuda: nautilus is the default file manager....
[16:31] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  you dont
[16:31] <hemicuda> ?
[16:31] <conscientia> My Dmesg output : http://pastebin.com/aQ1qv969 . Again I am having suspend resume issue with Ubuntu 10.04
 why i have to intsall something just to create an desktop icon
[16:33] <hemicuda> yes
[16:33] <conscientia>  Suspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is my Dmesg logs . http://pastebin.com/aQ1qv969
[16:33] <hemicuda> bobweaver, yes you do
[16:33] <darktor> how i can create a special theme for ubuntu?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> hemicuda  because the line has to be drawn somewhere in the decision about the packages included in the live cd, that has to be kept small enough
[16:34] <tbrown> how many people like windows xp in this room
[16:34] <wylde> !patience | conscientia
[16:34] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  look under /usr/share/applictions
[16:34] <hemicuda> me like windows xp
[16:34] <wylde> !ot | tbrown
[16:34] <bobweaver> ther eis your desktop files right there
[16:34] <conscientia> Sorry guys... I am running low on sleep so a bit impatient :)
[16:35] <tbrown> hemicuda: I cant load windows xp on my notebook pc ubottu: windows support is not helping
[16:35] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  plz read http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[16:35] <Pici> tbrown: we can't help you with Windows issues here. This channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[16:35] <wylde> tbrown: and what does that have to do with ubuntu support?
[16:36] <hemicuda> tbrown, its bad installation
[16:37] <hemicuda> bobweaver, do you want my shell
[16:37] <hemicuda> bobweaver, so you can help me
[16:37] <Hebram> Hello everyone.  Does 12.04 have a release candidate, or is it going straight from Beta 2 to release?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Hebram: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:37] <tbrown> hemicuda: you got that right:) Sorry everyone Just miss windows xp
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Hebram: it does say when you join the channel
[16:38] <tsimpson> Hebram: it releases in around a week
[16:38] <wylde> hemicuda: there's plenty of people here who have tried to help you. Read the links you have been provided with.
[16:38] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  you should not allow that
[16:38] <hemicuda> i did it this morning
[16:38] <Hebram> ActionParsnip, tsimpson:  Thank you.
[16:38] <hemicuda> i aonly allow to whom i trust
[16:39] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  I you do ssh with public keys ?
[16:39] <lyh> hello
[16:39] <lyh> am i in?
[16:39] <hemicuda> i just use netcat
[16:39] <Boreeas> lyh: Nope, you are out.
[16:39] <hemicuda> lyh, yes
[16:39] <lyh> what?
[16:40] <ariel__> does anybody here have aptana installed i downloaded java jre but it wont open
[16:40] <lyh> kiding me?
[16:40] <wylde> !ot | lyh
[16:40] <vebulous> Hello
[16:40] <lyh> where are you from
[16:41] <hemicuda> lol
[16:41] <lyh> sorry
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: does the java page test ok in browser (if you have a desktop OS)
[16:41] <wylde> lyh: this channel is for ubuntu support. /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[16:41] <justdave> how do you change the default runlevel in precise?
[16:42] <neco198> I have this problem with gnome-shell 3.4.1 http://i39.tinypic.com/2heftaa.png
[16:42] <justdave> my box is starting in runlevel 2 after upgrading to precise, so the desktop doesn't come up and so forth
[16:42] <ariel__> its a application bot a page
[16:42] <ariel__> not
[16:43] <genii-around> !runlevels
[16:43] <yuds> hello, repartitioning my disk for 12.04 beta. I have a 20gig/ 8gig swap and then rest is /home. installer warns me that I need a reserved bios area. I created a 5mb partition before all three partitions. still getting the warning
[16:43] <justdave> ok, so that sends me back to the later part of my question then, how do I get it to fire up all the desktop stuff again?
[16:43] <coolroot> hi i got 2.3 gnome if i want to upgrade to 3.something version of gnome what will happen to my desktop!? i mean my themes and everything?
[16:44] <genii-around> justdave: #ubuntu+1 for Precise Pangolin support please
[16:44] <justdave> genii-around: ok, will do
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yuds: never heard of a BIOS area in Ubuntu...
[16:45] <DasEi> yuds: is that a gpt table of a disk > 2TB ?
[16:45] <yuds> DasEi: no 160gig disk
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> neco198: try changing icon spacing of icons
[16:46] <DasEi> yuds: so maybe it's just set as one, well oin that you classic mbr and unless encryption no need for a seperate bootpartition
[16:46] <bhava> hi
[16:47] <bhava> hhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiii
[16:47] <DasEi> pong, bhava
[16:47] <bobweaver> hello bhava  do you have a ubuntu releated question ?
[16:47] <Merwin> hi
[16:48] <Merwin> I'm using the latest Ubuntu 12.04 and the text in the menu bar (top bar) is blurred, any clue ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Merwin: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Merwin: it does say when you join the channel
[16:48] <Merwin> Ok, sorry :)
[16:49] <bhava> how run java program in ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bhava: see above
[16:50] <DasEi> yuds: you can use gparted doing a new msdostable, that also creates the relevant mbr part
[16:51] <fluxy> Hello. My printer is detected but not scanner. It is an hp all in one device
[16:51] <fluxy> could anyone please help me?
[16:51] <bhava> hi milanoa
[16:51] <DasEi> fluxy: tried sane already and hplip-stuff installed ?
[16:52] <fluxy> i have simple scan installed and hplip is installed
[16:52] <fluxy> it used to work in the live cd :/
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> fluxy: tried xsane?
[16:53] <DasEi> fluxy: try xsane and alo install libsane-hpaio
[16:53] <fluxy> ok
[16:53] <DasEi> also*
[16:53] <max978> Hello all
[16:53] <max978> I have a vexing printing problem
[16:54] <max978> would appreciate any help
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> max978: any details?
[16:54] <max978> sure just waiting for takers :)
[16:54] <DasEi> !ask
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> max978: just ask :)
[16:55] <max978> a panasonic KX-MB781
[16:55] <max978> it's a networked printer and Ubuntu sees it
[16:55] <max978> but no matter what driver choice I select, it does not print
[16:55] <max978> and I get no errors
[16:55] <Mrokii> Hello. I wonder if anybody in here can help with a problem with Flash. It seems that I can't click anything in the "Adobe Flash Player Settings"-window anymore that appears after choosing "settings..." in the context menu. Plus, Flash seems to "block" Opera and also doesn't play continuously anymore in Firefox as well.
[16:56] <Mrokii> I mean, choosing the context menu from either Opera or Firefox.
[16:57] <max978> Fyi, someone previously suggested somehow accessing the printer through a windows machine already sharing the printer but either a) I haven't done that properly or b) it just doesn't work
[16:57] <DasEi> max978: well idk that printer, quick look brought some results, in your situation I'd first try to get it work directly connected to see what drivers are needed and then do the network setup
[16:59] <Ho^Oh> Is there a way to cascade/tile my windows with a click of a button?
[16:59] <bct_> Mrokii, I'm not sure it will solve your problem but there's a firefox extension called "flash-aid" that helps installing flash correctly (idk for opera though)
[16:59] <DasEi> max978: as said , unknown to me roo : 1) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259372
[16:59] <mischief> yo
[17:00] <DasEi> 2) http://pc-drivers.de/related/panasonic+kx+mb781+ubuntu+
[17:00] <mischief> i just started a new ec2 instance with oneric ocelot and i have all this getty processes running
[17:00] <mischief> there's no reason to have getty on a headless ec2 instance
[17:00] <Mrokii> bct_: Thanks, I will have a look. Though I doubt it's something Firefox-specific, as Opera seems to be slowed down tremendously as well.
[17:00] <mischief> how the hell do i stop them
[17:00] <pseudonymous> How come ubuntu has such pretty rendered fonts compared to other linux distributions ? (Fonts seem smoother)
[17:01] <bct_> Mrokii, well it actually reinstalls flash so maybe you'll be lucky
[17:01] <DasEi> max978: second, will look some further
[17:01] <max978> ok
[17:01] <Mrokii> bct_: Okay. I'll definitely have a look. Thanks.
[17:01] <max978> I'm kinda losing hope on this one honestly
[17:01] <fluxy> DasEi: I have installed xsane, xscanimage etc. my device still not detected
[17:01] <bct_> Mrokii, you're welcome ;)
[17:02] <`Korvin> After a few minutes of flash audio in chrome, my audio goes bonkers
[17:03] <troubled> mischief: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services/20347#20347
[17:03] <raoul_> ciao a tutti
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: i assume you are referring to `service tty1` through ttyN as per /etc/init/tty*.conf
[17:04] <genii-around> !it | raoul_
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: err, I mean `status tty1` not `service tty1` :)
[17:04] <mischief> troubled: yes. im used to having a /etc/inittab or /etc/ttys :-/
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: i know your pain ;)
[17:04] <sidux> http://onibushacker.forum-livre.com/
[17:05] <troubled> inittab was my typical first visit on install too
[17:05] <mischief> i'd run bsd if my work didn't require i started an ubuntu instance -_-
[17:05] <`Korvin> Any idea why flash 64x sound would glitch out after 3 or 4 minutes of use
[17:05] <avinashhm> Hi friends , i am trying to configure static ip with dhclient .. i am not a n/w expert, but hope this can be done .. enabled static section in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf .. but seems not working .. on rebooting get diff address .. the config file is in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/938566/ .. could some one pls help
[17:05] <`Korvin> sounds digitized
[17:05] <`Korvin> only way to fix it is to restart the browser
[17:05] <`Korvin> whichever browser I'm using
[17:06] <mischief> "To disable the job, you need to edit the job file directly to disable it. There are two ways to do this."
[17:06] <mischief> this is *WORSE*
[17:07] <trism> mischief: you do not have to edit the job, use override files
[17:07] <mischief> trism: got a doc or manpage?
[17:07] <DasEi> max978: no, I can't find it on the hcl, but as you saw others had a solution for it, will then on your own risk have to try to compile the driver
[17:07] <trism> mischief: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[17:08] <DasEi> !compile | max978
[17:08] <max978> wow
[17:08] <max978> never complied anything
[17:08] <max978> compiled
[17:08] <max978> sorry
[17:08] <mischief> compiling > ubuntu, just saying
[17:08] <jrib> how insightful
[17:09] <DasEi> max978: no big deal, unknown stuff I always use a vm or sparesystem for, sometimes that borks up, very sometimes
[17:10] <DasEi> max978: sit back, read the links, and feel free to ask on if unsure
[17:10] <max978> ok, thanks for the help
[17:10] <asktrytest> hi. after learning that is not worth to get an older distro to have 3d on a legacy card i wonder... why the comunity does not relese a new distro with up-to-date security and noob firendly that is build around legacy video drivers? it puzzles me why such a distro is not out there already. is like linux is pushing people to upgrade hardware like the gaming industry does
[17:11] <DasEi> asktrytest: try lubuntu ?
[17:11] <Mrokii> bct_: Seems as if that extension *did* install another version of the flashplayer, but it didn't help. Still the same problems with Opera and FX. Thanks anyway.
[17:11] <DasEi> !lubuntu | asktrytest
[17:12] <asktrytest> Deasi, as far as i know lubuntu is based on ubuntu 10.04 up or something. 3d on legacy was untill 8.04
[17:12] <DasEi> asktrytest: there is a bunch of other possibilities, too
[17:12] <DasEi> asktrytest: nope, same core n updates/releases
[17:13] <asktrytest> Daesi i know that legacy ati wont work if you have xorg 7.5 or higher
[17:13] <asktrytest> last ubuntu that supported lower xorg was 8.04
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !tab| asktrytest
[17:14] <mischief> ok i added those lines to the .override files
[17:14] <mischief> now how the hell do i actually stop a upstart service
[17:14] <mischief> the manpage says nothing about this, as usual
[17:14] <asktrytest> ubottu,  ah, thanks, i got it
[17:14] <bct_> Mrokii, sorry it didn't help :(
[17:14] <mischief> !upstart stop
[17:14] <DasEi> asktrytest: won't work is a strong work, the commerical drivers from ati won't install, but radeon is still a good choice for non-high-playgrounds, as you mentiooned above, that works fine
[17:14] <mischief> !stop service
[17:15] <Mrokii> bct_: Was worth a try, as I have no clue whatsoever what caused it. Other than maybe a bug in the Flashplayer. Which, given its history, is very likely.
[17:15] <troubled> mischief: you were 11.04 right?
[17:15] <DasEi> mischief: sudo servie WHATEVER start/stop ?
[17:15] <asktrytest> DasEi,  i'm using open-source right now nut wont give me 3d, fps in games 1/2 as win, even lower
[17:15] <DasEi> service*
[17:16] <mischief> troubled: oneric ocelot
[17:16] <DasEi> asktrytest: which card is it ?
[17:16] <mischief> thanks
[17:16] <mischief> this worked: for j in 2 3 4 5 6; do echo "stopping tty${j}"; service "tty${j}" stop ; done
[17:16] <asktrytest> DasEi,  ati r x1550 512mb
[17:16] <asktrytest> legacy
[17:16] <troubled> mischief: if so, I just tested the override file, works fine for tty services. `echo manual >> /etc/init/$servicename.override` as root stops from auto starting fine here
[17:16] <rmxz> Where's the best place to lobby against "indicator-appmenu" being the default.    In addition to being totally broken in "focus-follows mouse",  I notice that on my kinda old graphics card Unity fails to start when I have "indicator-appmenu" installed (making me fall back to Unity 2D on that computer) -- but after "apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" it works fine.    Is there a good place to put in a request that the appmenu **not** be 
[17:18] <DeLorean731> In Windows when I right click -> properties on an image, i can get a lot of meta data such as which camera it was taken with etc. What is a tool (command line is fine) that I can use to do this on 11.10?
[17:18] <asktrytest> DasEi,  my point is, i'm puzzeled why the community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04 did
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> DeLorean731  in terminal: file
[17:18] <`Korvin> DeLorean731, that data is called exif data
[17:18] <DasEi> asktrytest: be puzzled about ati, there is the worm ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:19] <DasEi> asktrytest: nvidia opened / adapted there code to it, not so ati
[17:19] <asktrytest> DasEi,  i read now, i missed that page, brb
[17:19] <AndroUser> Hi
[17:19] <DasEi> asktrytest: that i not a gamers card, but radeon increased a lot recently :)
[17:20] <DasEi> is*
[17:20] <rmxz> asktrytest  "community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04"   -- totally agreed here; with an older nvidia card (MX 440)  that worked fine with a deault Ubuntu install win 8.04 - 10.someting;   but the default install with the current release crashes with meaningless error messages (something like ubuntu session can't start).
[17:20] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, i saw the page and is true. after installing new driver my pc went on fallback with vesa..
[17:20] <DasEi> asktrytest: I let you read now, but I'd go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV and be fine if keen on graphics
[17:21] <Xtreme> guys can someone tell me a nice DVD burning tool
[17:21] <Xtreme> i got a iso i want to burn
[17:21] <DasEi> !burn
[17:22] <Xtreme> thanks
[17:22] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, no point in buying a video for my agp slot, better upgrade all on pciexress
[17:22] <eid> hello
[17:22] <eid> i used wine for winrar on ubuntu
[17:22] <rmxz> "go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV" - One of the reasons I like linux on the older machines is that they're cheap ($0).      Sad that Ubuntu's installer now requires  modern hardware instead of having the installer detect video chard shortcomings and falling back to the capabilities that ubuntu 8.x had.
[17:23] <DasEi> asktrytest: your choice, but me easiest, if you aren't too hard on budget, even fully supported that wouldn't be of extended graphical use
[17:23] <eid> but i don't know where to extract 4 big files so that win rar won't give me the error "the disk is full '
[17:24] <asktrytest> DasEi,  hm.. all thing smells like a strategy to sell better pcs, like games: big sys reqs= need to buy new system. waht new linux relese, buy a new pc
[17:24] <eid> can somebody help ?
[17:24] <DasEi> rmxz: same mind here, but depends on what you want than
[17:25] <DasEi> eid: put them else where on disk und unpack under linux ?
[17:25] <DasEi> !rar
[17:25] <rmxz> Dasei: "depends on what you want"    --- to sum up what I want -- I want the Ubuntu installer to be more tolerant of ancient hardware, and not blindly install a UI (Unity 3D with indicator-appmenu) on systems where indicator-appmenu crashes.
[17:25] <datruth> How can I fix Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be  caused by held packages?
[17:26] <asktrytest> DasEi,  and rmxz  somehow linux stoped been free when it stopped working on older cards, no matter ati/nvidia.. i'm having a point here or?
[17:26] <eid> DasEi where?
[17:26] <DasEi> asktrytest: depends on needs then, newer distros have many advantages, and rather time and machines go together, can be nasty, but doesn't work is also a wrong statement
[17:26] <eid> my linux won't see the extracted files
[17:26] <eid> i don't know where to extract them
[17:27] <eid> i see mycomputer on Wine
[17:27] <DasEi> asktrytest: nope, see above, that'S ATI
[17:27] <rmxz> asktrytest:  -- IMHO not Linux (it's still very free in both freedom and dollars) -- but it seems Ubunty stopped being $0 when it's asking me to upgrade my otherwise perfectly fine hardware.
[17:27] <eid> c drive and z drive
[17:27] <asktrytest> rmxz,  good point there
[17:27] <Xabster> What's the channel for Wine discussion?
[17:27] <DasEi> !WINE
[17:27] <Xabster> thanks
[17:28] <toter> does anyone know an easy way to convert a web page to an app or a widget? there's a hp-12c emulator on a web page that I would like to convert to an app. For example, the WebKit engine inside a windows displaying a specific section of a website...
[17:28] <toter> windows=window
[17:29] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, i'm not actually blaming ati. if someone wanted to make a new distro that sues legacy ati i'm sure was possbile to do (i saw on forums that 1 distro can work with legacy ati but takes hours to set up, is not noob firendly at all)
[17:29] <cypher-neo> Hi. I asked this question in #ubuntu+1 but no one is answering anything in there. I was wondering if there was a Preview mode on the 64-bit edition of Precise. I remember that for time on 10.10 and 11.04 32-bit users could Try Out the software before installing, but that option wasn't available on the 64-bit edition. Does anyone know if 64-bit Precise has a Preview mode?
[17:30] <eid> !info unrar-free
[17:30] <toter> I can do that on my Mac using a program called Fluid (fluidapp.com)… Is there something similar for ubuntu?
[17:30] <DasEi> asktrytest: last on this poll, if new technologys say for cars become available, should they stop because a stereo manufactorer won't open their circuits for it ?
[17:31] <DasEi> like no upstart for ati ?
[17:31] <sidux> !help
[17:31] <Barnabas> !ubottu is a sexy animal
[17:32] <asktrytest> DasEi,  nicely put there :P still, a hole lot of ppls are stuck with legacy ati
[17:32] <pangolin> !ot | Barnabas
[17:33] <DasEi> asktrytest: nvm, try to get the radeon to work and see what that will improve then, there are many (lucky) ati-users around, see what you get from the tut, ask try again, there will be others using ati
[17:34] <asktrytest> DasEi,  thanks for help :)
[17:34] <DasEi> np :)
[17:36] <karel_ff> Hi. I have set chromium as my preferred browser, but xdg-open only opens new windows - it doesn't load the  url. Any ideas?
[17:37] <LmAt> How do I start the unity windowing system on ubuntu?
[17:38] <LmAt> It got turned off.  Is it "sudo service start lightdm"?
[17:38] <DasEi> LmAt: sudo service gdm start
[17:38] <Dr_Willis_Testin> Unity is one of the desktops you can select from the lightdm/gdm menus
[17:38] <Dr_Willis_Testin> its called 'ubuntu' i belive in the gear-menu
[17:39] <LmAt> DasEi: sudo service lightdm start
[17:39] <LmAt> worked
[17:39] <DasEi> fine then
[17:39] <l1nkg0> hello all
[17:40] <LmAt> DasEi: thanks :D
[17:40] <LmAt> l1nkg0: yo
[17:41] <l1nkg0> adakah orang Indonesia disini ?
[17:41] <LmAt> l1nkg0: no.
[17:42] <DasEi> !indonesia
[17:42] <benq_JCEVIL2010> HI
[17:42] <palladin35y> hey
[17:42] <LmAt> benq_JCEVIL2010: yo
[17:43] <aantoon> hi, will 12.04 alternate support ssd+trim+luks aut of the box or do I have to do some tweaking?
[17:43] <palladin35y> hey guys
[17:43] <oCean> aantoon, try #ubuntu+1 channel please
[17:43] <aantoon> k, thanks
[17:43] <benq_JCEVIL2010> Drgreen good name
[17:44] <oCean> benq_JCEVIL2010: do you have a support question? Chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:44] <benq_JCEVIL2010> ok
[17:44] <benq_JCEVIL2010> oCean how install wine
[17:45] <oCean> !software | benq_JCEVIL2010
[17:45] <palladin35y> hey guy how do i load lampp
[17:45] <oCean> !lamp | palladin35y
[17:46] <benq_JCEVIL2010> yes
[17:47] <appi_uppi> Hi can someone help me with this... http://pastebin.com/akxMt8jr?
[17:47] <palladin35y> in terminal thank you ubottu
[17:48] <rmxz> Any recommended Ivy Bridge motherboard for 12.04?   I see a nice comparison table of Z77 motherboards here: http://uk.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/148551-148556-149540-149539-149544-146963-149542-146965-147838-149624-149482-148838-149551-149550-143490-148822-149894-148446-143489-149612  -- and am wondering if there are any specific components to stay away from for a new Ubuntu computer.
[17:48] <LmAt> Apparently the reason why my Windows Putty client wouldn't display elinks and tmux correctly is because I was using the wrong encoding :(
[17:48] <LmAt> But I still type quickly ^_^
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> hey
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> i want steel storm free
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> help me
[17:49] <jrib> benq_JCEVIL2010: we don't support piracy here.
[17:50] <rmxz> Perhaps he hoped Ubuntu could convince the manufacturer to release it under a F/OSS license?  :)
[17:51] <wylde> I have a "server" machine that serves as an LTSP server, LAMP server(internal network only) and a VM host for a stripped out windows guest that is used for printing to my linux unsupported printer. I'm looking for thoughts on mounting the "print"  directory, are there risks if I use the nbd server already install for the LTSP server?
[17:54] <Escherial> the update manager is always telling me to update certain things that never seem to go through; some of them aren't even selectable
[17:54] <ScoutUk> Hi. Recently moved to Linux. I don't know how to download magnet links from torrent sites that don't give you the option to download the torrent file. Could anyone point me in the right direction please.
[17:55] <Escherial> for instance, under "Distribution Updates", i have "enterprise search server based on Lucene - common files" and the same thing, but for "Tomcat integration"; i can't even check them to download them, but they're there in the list
[17:55] <wylde> !torrent | ScoutUk
[17:55] <DasEi> wylde: I guess the win sys contains no sensitive data, then try to enable windows sharing and just access this from ubuntu (aka networkprinter?)
[17:55] <ScoutUk> Thanks wylde
[17:55] <DasEi> wylde: for sure that can be found in vm's FAQ
[17:56] <cypher-neo> ScoutUk, Magnet links work like web links, you just right-click them and click Copy Link. Just make sure the software you use can support magnet links.
[17:56] <angels> join/ #ubuntu-beginners
[17:56] <DasEi> angels: /' ...
[17:56] <wylde> DasEi: the actual directory is on the ubuntu /home/directory of the user that runs the vm.
[17:57] <cypher-neo> wylde, You need to add FatRat to the !torrent list on ubottu. I find FatRat to be the best torrent program I've ever used!
[17:57] <angels> DasEi how does it go?
[17:57] <rsumi> hi i'm trying to update to ubuntu 12.04 from 11.10 but i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/YQnayNab
[17:57] <hechu> hi, is there anybody interesting in a M$ office clone (deep compatible with M$) in Ubuntu Linux ? it is not open source, but free. produced by a Chinese company.
[17:57] <wylde> DasEi: I'm just trying to determine if mounting the /home partition on nbd will leave me open to data corruption rpoblems if nbd clients get un-intentionally disconnected.
[17:57] <DasEi> wylde: and you want to access this printer from other machines in your local network ? so just need a hole in the vm then, if host also is 'buntu
[17:59] <appi_uppi> when is ubuntu 12.04 LTS going to release ?
[17:59] <DasEi> wylde: can't tell, as I'm in other things right now, but why complicated ? network printing is secured from breachs, so all you need is to acces the printer from the vm-host
[17:59] <auronandace> 26th
[17:59] <angels> how do i join another channel?
[18:00] <DasEi> !precise
[18:00] <DasEi> angels: see above /j #ubuntu-beginners
[18:01] <wylde> DasEi: the windows vm has no access beyond the "shared" folder in VirtualBox. I understand what you're saying.  I just don't want to leave myself with problems if I go ahead and use the nbd server. ..I'll do some more searching, (I have no windows machines at all beyond the VM so I have no need for samba)
[18:01] <appi_uppi> hmm
[18:01] <silvia> ciao
[18:01] <silvia> !List
[18:01] <wylde> DasEi: thank you for your input though! :)
[18:01] <DasEi> wylde: which is used, vbox ?
[18:03] <wylde> DasEi: yep, and the windows VM is stripped out in a big way. The ONLY thing it does is watch the shared folder and print the files dropped into it. (client machines print directly to pdf and drop the files in the "print" folder)
[18:04] <DasEi> wylde: I'm pretty sure that sharing a printer is mentioned in the FAQs of vbox-homepage, else there is #vbox, and printersharing beetween ubumachines.. someone playing with ldap will know that :)
[18:04] <wylde> DasEi: right now I'm handlig that through the web server with a php script for uploading the pdf files.
[18:08] <eldereko_> is it possible to install ubuntu on a single file loop device?
[18:09] <DasEi> eldereko_: you can mount an iso by grub, yes
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> what's a single file loop device?
[18:10] <DasEi> !iso
[18:11] <eldereko_> DasEi: what im trying to do is a full install to a file on a windows partition, similar to wubi but without modifying the bootloader and being able to go through the normal installer
[18:11] <boutell> Trying to use add-apt-repository, I get this: ImportError: /opt/PostgresPlus/9.0SS/psqlODBC/lib/libk5crypto.so.3: symbol krb5int_labeled_open, version krb5support_0_MIT not defined in file libkrb5support.so.0 with link time reference
[18:12] <DasEi> !remastersys | eldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then
[18:12] <wylde> MonkeyDust: it's a file that contains an entire filesystem. Any time you mount things like .iso etc. you are mounting a "loop" device.
[18:12] <DasEi> !remaster | eldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then
[18:12] <boutell> ohhh you know what that's because we have some bullshit version of postgres on our box. It's not ubuntu's problem. Never mind heh
[18:12] <DasEi> eldereko_: else use :
[18:12] <DasEi> !vm
[18:12] <hispeed88> where can I download the official iso file for kubuntu live cd? i just find the bittorrent file -> http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.10/release/ <- are they ok?
[18:13] <OerHeks> hispeed88, sure
[18:13] <DasEi> eldereko_: or a persistant usb-install, but that's not the filethingy you in first hand wanted
[18:13] <eldereko_> no i dont want it to be a live cd... essentially i want what wubi does but without modifying the mbr
[18:14] <DasEi> eldereko_: vm will be closest, then
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> eldereko_  there's and-linux
[18:14] <__Grabarz__> Hi there! I have a question about Qt library. Does anybody know if there are repository for Qt 4.8? This version was released some time ago but it is not applied to repo.
[18:14] <riex> Hello. I have just installed mysql on my ubuntu server, but when I am typing "mysql" and trying to connect to the mysql service, i got this error: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" How do i fix that issue?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> eldereko_  this, but it is not supported here http://www.andlinux.org/
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> riex, did you try type:
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> mysql -u root -p
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> ?
[18:16] <mcb_> riex: use $mysql -p It will ask you for your password.
[18:16] <riex> __Grabarz__,: When i am using mysql -u root -p i can connect without problems.
[18:17] <riex> but if i log out again, and type "mysql"
[18:17] <riex> i got the same issue again.
[18:17] <DasEi> riex: can give you a german link, code is same, it's just to explain about a file setup , want it ?
[18:17] <lykwydchykyn> __Grabarz__: I believe the kubuntu ppas have it.  I am running, 4.8 on my machine, and I'm sure that's where I got it.
[18:17] <eldereko_> i dont want to run windows at all... but its a work computer so i cant re-partition and blow away windows
[18:17] <riex> Yes thank you
[18:18] <hispeed88> OerHeks hmm I have a 32 bit machine intel so i need: http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso <- for stable version? but there is no 700 MB CD?
[18:18] <ZenMaster> I now I asked this earlier. But I need to do name resolution vrs having an ip in a web browser on a local intranet.
[18:18] <ZenMaster> NMBD can handle that?
[18:18] <ZenMaster> To access a local corporate intranet website.
[18:18] <__Grabarz__> So I will try to search for it.
[18:18] <DasEi> http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/15031/error-1045-28000.html ,riex
[18:18] <wylde> eldereko_: get yourself a portable usb drive to install to, and setup the bios to boot the usb drive?
[18:18] <MrWobz> is there a seperate irc for ubuntuserver  ?
[18:19] <Pici> MrWobz: Theres #ubuntu-server as well.
[18:19] <MrWobz> Pici thanks
[18:19] <DasEi> riex: mind mysql-pass is not rootpass, usually one sets it when installing mysql, but easy to re-set
[18:19] <tanerdogan> hi there, i just installed fubuntu. is there anyone can tell me how can i install LAMP?
[18:20] <OerHeks> hispeed88, is usually get the torrents from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ also 699 iso available.
[18:20] <eldereko_> wylde: thats an option, but i really wanted the installation contained in a virtual hard disk file on the windows drive... basically not possible?
[18:20] <DasEi> !pm | riex
[18:21] <obscurant1st> Is there anyone who could provide some info about connecting a hdmi monitor to my leptop with nvidia+intel cards? I mean with optimus technology.
[18:21] <angels> is there a way to turn off the joined and quit notifications in this room?
[18:21] <Atlantic777> angels: what irc client do you use?
[18:21] <K1rk|Work> angels: That would be a feature of your IRC client, not of the channel.
[18:21] <wylde> eldereko_: I doubt it, you'd have to install grub somewhere, ..I'm not familiar with wubi, I never used it. Can you choose where to put the bootloader with wubi? If so, do a wubi install and install grub to a usb pendrive and boot from that?
[18:21] <MrWobz> Hello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays BOTH drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do
[18:22] <wylde> eldereko_: that wouldn't touch the windows bootloader at all that way.
[18:22] <DasEi> obscurant1st: the nvidia has hdmi, too ?
[18:22] <angels> Atlantic777 and K1rk|Work - freenode. It is web based and the only one I know. Is there a better one?
[18:23] <K1rk|Work> angels: There's a ton of IRC clients... I personally like xchat, konversation, and irssi.
[18:23] <Atlantic777> !xchat | angels
[18:23] <hispeed88> OerHeks so i just have to configure my torrent... :(
[18:23] <Atlantic777> angels: see xchat and irssi
[18:23] <rainerborene> I'm using irssi. Weechat is better?
[18:23] <Atlantic777> rainerborene: depends on the user. :)
[18:23] <DasEi> highspeed88: if you look around ubuntu.com, there's a bunch of mirrors, torrents, whatever
[18:24] <MrWobz> I like quassel
[18:24] <OerHeks> hispeed88, do you want a direct download kubuntu 11.10 699 mb ?
[18:24] <DasEi> torrent is nice for fault-correction, don't forget to hash :
[18:24] <DasEi> !md5sum
[18:24] <OerHeks> hispeed88, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/
[18:25] <hispeed88> yes OerHeks :) or ftp doesn't matter if possible otherwise i have to configure tomorrow 2 hours and restart my network ^^
[18:25] <obscurant1st> DasEi, how Can I know that? Is there any command? I mean my laptop has only one hdmi port!
[18:25] <MrWobz> or if you download the iso via ftp/http and use a download manager like downthemall it has built in md5 checks and much faster than torrent
[18:25] <eldereko_> wylde: wubi unfortunately doesnt give the option where to instal grub, it defaults to modify the windows bootloader... i would like to have grub installed on a thumbdrive to boot
[18:25] <rainerborene> Atlantic777: You're right. I will try both.
[18:25] <L3top_> Does anyone know what happened to Xorg -scanpci? Or if there is an alternative that produces the proper format for xorg.conf? I do not wish to convert hex to decimal and then format
[18:26] <DasEi> obscurant1st: well, possibly you swith in bios then, use the nvidia, get the offical displaymanager, should be easiest
[18:26] <guntbert> angels: in webchat click on the icon top left (with the arrow), select options, there you will find "hide...."
[18:26] <DasEi> L3top_: you can use /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log for modlines
[18:26] <codeslinger> when I install a new server with solar flare card (sec driver) the udev persistent rules are missing one of the two ports
[18:27] <L3top_> I just need the pci bus.
[18:27] <wylde> eldereko_: aww, that's shame... hmmm, gimme a sec.
[18:27] <rainerborene> y
[18:27] <obscurant1st> DasEi, there is no option for switching it in bios! :(
[18:27] <codeslinger> what is the most generic way to fix that? the ethernet port came up as rename2
[18:27] <hispeed88> OerHeks i'm now downloading :=)
[18:28] <L3top_> for dual gpu setups, I must specify the appropriate card, and getting it from lspci I have to split it up, convert it with bc, reformat it and get rid of numbers sometimes... and... I just want exactly what Xorg -scanpci used to do.
[18:29] <codeslinger> I know I can hack the 70-persistent-net.rules file but that is very specific
[18:29] <wylde> eldereko_: beyond wubi I can't think of any (easy) way to do what you want. For now the best I can suggest it running ubuntu as a guest OS in vbox, or using the eternal usb drive I suggested.
[18:29] <codeslinger> L3top_: so you use the gnu also for display, not just computation?
[18:29] <DasEi> obscurant1st: well, ask by telling which model you use on how to install nv-propitarydriver and see what the gui can do for you, sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | pastebinit gives additional clues, I need a break now
[18:29] <L3top_> yes
[18:29] <L3top_> PCI:0:2:0 for instance
[18:29] <codeslinger> doesn't the nvidia-installer do the xconfig for you?
[18:30] <eldereko_> wylde: ok thanks man... i will have to go with the external usb option
[18:30] <L3top_> I do installs with nvidia, ati, intel, via
[18:30] <obscurant1st> DasEi, I have an optimus technology laptop and I have installed bumblebee.
[18:30] <L3top_> I am simply subverting the integrated if more than one gpu is present
[18:30] <wylde> eldereko_: I'm far from an expert, I'm not it isn't possible, I just don't know how you would go about it. :)
[18:30] <wylde> *not saying*
[18:31] <obscurant1st> DasEi, I will pastebin it in a few sec
[18:31]  * avatargz 
[18:31] <L3top_> we generate our own xorg.conf from scratch
[18:31] <source> hi
[18:35] <daftykins> !precise
[18:35] <obscurant1st> This is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/938689/
[18:36] <tom95> I tried installing ubuntu12.04 and 11.10 multiple times on a dual booting machine with windows, but grub never starts. Instead windows always boots directly, no sign of grub. Do you have an idea what could have gone wrong?
[18:37] <L3top_> If you installed windows after linux, your MBR was overwritten by windows tom95
[18:37] <tom95> L3top_: no, windows was already installed
[18:38] <obscurant1st> L3top_, and how do we do that?
[18:38] <Guest88274> tom95, try installing Linux and in the partition phase select advanced and indicate the hard drive to install the grub
[18:38] <SnF00> I'm planning on running Ubuntu using virtualbox on my laptop that has 8gb of RAM and an i5-2540m, will this be alright or am I gonna have serious performance/battery issues?
[18:38] <tom95> Guest88274: I did
[18:38] <bazhang> SnF00, why so much ram for a vbox
[18:39] <L3top_> I have never encountered that. All I can assume is that grub was written to a non boot partition.
[18:39] <Guest88274> SnF00, I install Precise Pangolin in the same procesor but 4Gb RAM, and works like a charm, with graphic effects and everithing
[18:39] <SnF00> I don't think I'd dedicate all 8gb to the vbox
[18:40] <tom95> L3top_: I heard about those bios problem forbidding grub to boot and I have a graphicall bios... could it be caused by this?
[18:40] <bazhang> SnF00, ok, misunderstood you then
[18:40] <bazhang> SnF00, that vbox will run very well on such a system
[18:41] <SnF00> Okay, great. Thanks for the answers.
[18:41] <L3top_> As I said, I have never encountered it... but I tend to avoid dual booting in general... sorry tom95
[18:41] <tom95> L3top_: ok, thanks anyway
[18:41] <bazhang> SnF00, there is also a channel #vbox for much  more technical questions
[18:41] <tom95> L3top_: is there maybe a grub channel?
[18:41] <angels> guntbert ubottu - thanks
[18:42] <bazhang> tom95, there is
[18:42] <McMillan> hello
[18:42] <troubled> enthdegree: oh btw, got it working fine after installing xubuntu-desktop, my LVs in thunar that is. thanks again though :)
[18:42] <SnF00> Alright, I'll make sure to use that channel when I doubtlessly mess something up
[18:42] <angels> Atlantic777 and K1rk|Work - thanks I will try them after installing Linux to HD
[18:42] <bazhang> tom95, you can use alis to search for channel s on freenode by the way: /msg alis list *term* will return a list if they exist
[18:43] <guntbert> angels: you're welcome :-) but really consider using a "real" client - that was what ubottu (she is a bot :-)) sent you
[18:43] <bazhang> SnF00, asking here is ok too, but they are undoubtedly more knowledgeable on the finer points of virtualbox
[18:44] <angels> guntbert - she listed freenode? that's what I'm on
[18:44] <brun0l3z> Hey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours
[18:44] <angels> Why when I go thru the Linux installer, why is an error telling me I need to make a Root?
[18:44] <guntbert> !xchat | angels: no I was referring to
[18:45] <MrWobz> angels a root partiton is like a c drive for windows
[18:45] <ldiamond> In Oneric, how do I add stuff to the panel in Unity (like CPU usage applet, Memory usage applet, etc)?
[18:45] <brun0l3z>  Hey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours because the last time we did it it lasted for only 15  minutes
[18:45] <Guest48766> mint user here, sorry to bug you guys, but I'm having some trouble with xchat and connecting to the mint server
[18:46] <angels> MrWobz - I used GParted to create GPT table, then 400GB ext4 (out of total 1TB). Is there another step I'm missing?
[18:46] <ldiamond> Guest48766, the mint server is useless anyways.
[18:46] <DasEi> ldiamond: lm-sensors and sensores-applet
[18:46] <brun0l3z> any body please help
[18:47] <DasEi> sensors*
[18:47] <xissburg> why does sudo mv -f file1 blah/file1 won't work?
[18:47] <Guest48766> ldiamond, what do you mean?
[18:47] <Guest48766> what's an alternative?
[18:47] <ldiamond> DasEi, How do I add the sensor applet in Unity? I know how to do it with gnome panel, but unity is so not user-friendly
[18:47] <ldiamond> Guest48766, none that I know of.
[18:48] <MrWobz> angels how much ram do you have ? linux used to have 3 partitions a lot... one for storage (docs etc)  one for swap ( like windows pagefile) and one for os
[18:48] <DasEi> ldiamond: secon, I'll try , not using unity either, might take a coup of tea
[18:48] <Guest48766> ldiamond, thanks
[18:48] <MrWobz> angels if you have plently of ram then just make one root partition... all of your stuff will be stored in /home/username/here
[18:49] <ldiamond> DasEi, even in 12.04 w/ gnome-panel, I couldn't figure out how to add it...
[18:49] <ldiamond> I always wonder why they took off all these functionalities
[18:49] <angels> MrWobz - i am running 8GB. How do I create a root partition... from GParted or the Installer?
[18:50] <ldiamond> angels, the root partition is created during the install
[18:50] <DasEi> ldiamond: right-click on panel, add.. but must have run sensors-detect beorehand and added modules, just some minutes, vm booting up
[18:50] <LUEshi> echo
[18:50] <MrElendig> angels: seperate /home is strongly encuraged
[18:50] <MrElendig> encouraged*
[18:50] <codeslinger> After an installation of ubuntu it has both ports of the onboard nics correctly in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  but the dual port 10G solar flare card has only one of the two ports in it, and so the other one comes up as 'rename2'. I tried to fix it by removing that file and rebooting, and now they are all 4 in there but in the wrong order (onboard0, 10g0, onboard1, 10g1)
[18:50] <DasEi> pong LUEshi
[18:50] <ldiamond> angels, do what MrElendig said.
[18:51] <salmiak> Are there a way to make firefox ignore all redirects to a certain web address?  So all other redirects work, but when my stupid zyxelmodem pushes in its http://192.168.1.1/zCfgTryAgain.html (that kills the address I opened) it will just ignore it?
[18:51] <MrElendig> angels: less chance of losing all your data if something goes wrong, also much easier to handle reinstalls etc
[18:51] <ldiamond> that allows you to easily reinstall and keep all your home untouched
[18:51] <codeslinger> is there a way to predetermine at least the driver with /etc/modprobe.conf like we would in centos so that it comes out as onboard0, onboard1, 10g0, 10g1 being eth0,eth1,eth2 and eth3?
[18:51] <angels> ldiamond MrElendig - I am in the Installer. It won't let me go forward. Says missing root. Need to create one from Partition menu... I don't see one
[18:51] <MrElendig> salmiak: try setting your dns to your real dns instead of your router
[18:51] <ldiamond> angels, you have to select a partition and mark it as '/'
[18:51] <MrWobz> angels make a partition with /
[18:51] <codeslinger> or do I have to create script magic to add the missing one in there myself?
[18:51] <DasEi> ldiamond: or simply try what happens if you in gnome and then switch surface to unity
[18:52] <DasEi> install in gnome**
[18:52] <MrElendig> angels: what is your existing layout, and do you have data you want to keep on any of the partitions?
[18:52] <ldiamond> DasEi, can't right click on the panels in Unity, doesn't do anything for me
[18:52] <MrWobz> Hello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays all my drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do..
[18:52] <MrWobz> as its still the same :-/
[18:52] <DasEi> ldiamond: log into gnome, I can sow you there, may that integrates in unity, too
[18:53] <ldiamond> DasEi, what do you mean?
[18:53] <ClientAlive> what is ubuntu server like? Does it have a full blown desktop environment or is it cli only?
[18:53] <DasEi> MrWobz: try other parameters of hdparm (carefull!) to see things like dma, modes, whatever
[18:53] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, CLI only
[18:53] <salmiak> MrElendig: how do I that? set the dns to something but still have the network settings on dhcp
[18:53] <ClientAlive> perfect
[18:53] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, you can install the desktop environment though
[18:54] <angels> MrElendig ldiamond - it is a blank 1TB. I formatted 400GB to ext4, which is sitting in the middle of the drive.  I need to mark the 400GB partition with / from which program?
[18:54] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, turns it into desktop :s
[18:54] <ClientAlive> I could install awesome window manager then eh?
[18:54] <troubled> hmm, my kde/qt apps all seem to have microscopic fonts now since upgrading to 11.10. i tried make it to the font config for kde, but it too unreadable to use. removing ~/.kde didn't help either. ideas?
[18:54] <DasEi> ldiamond: switch to classic gnome, install there and see if it occurs in unity, too then
[18:54] <troubled> i needs my k3b and friends! :)
[18:54] <ldiamond> DasEi, I'll give it a shot
[18:54] <MrElendig> angels: if it is totally blank then I suggests this:
[18:54] <ClientAlive> ldiamond: do you happen to know if it can install to efi?
[18:54] <ldiamond> DasEi, however that would be the most awful user interface....\
[18:54] <salmiak> salmiak: I'm using ubuntu10.04LTS btw
[18:55] <Guest48766> I'm trying to learn bash scripting and i'm trying to run a simple hello world, but I get no display. named the file .sh and ran as executable
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home
[18:55] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, no idea
[18:55] <ClientAlive> ok
[18:55] <ClientAlive> thx man
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: asuming you are not going to dualboot anything on that disk
[18:55] <DasEi> ldiamond: I like ubuntu and gdm in debian for me, too
[18:55] <MrWobz> I prefur classic gnome over unity... :-/ but then I prefur lxde over all so
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: and use gpt :)
[18:55] <DasEi> ldiamond: lubuntu even
[18:55] <ldiamond> Guest48766, does your file start with #!/bin/bash ?
[18:55] <guntbert> Guest48766: ask in #bash please
[18:55] <Guest48766> ldiamond yeah
[18:56] <ldiamond> DasEi, my current install is from xubuntu, I didn't like so installed gnome.
[18:56] <Guest48766> guntbert, how do i get there
[18:56] <angels> MrElendig - I can dual boot 2 Linux (or Windows & Linux) at same time? I was told that's not possible
[18:56] <DasEi> ldiamond: same way for xubu as in gnome
[18:56] <guntbert> Guest48766: /join #bash
[18:56] <MrElendig> angels: you can have a menu to choose which to boot at start
[18:56] <MrElendig> angels: you can't really run both at the same time
[18:57] <angels> MrElendig - where am I supposed to put in those items you mentioned?
[18:57] <obiwan_> hi, please does anyone have a pci-e usb 3.0 card installed? i'm trying to find out why my pci-e isn't detected. it's weird because the leds of the usb sticks i attach to it flash like when they're being read, but the os doesn't recognize them. tried comparing lspci outputs before and after removing the card, and i get the same output.
[18:57] <MrElendig> angels: btw if you are going to install windows on the disk, do that first
[18:57] <Guest48766> guntbert, sry not fallowing noob
[18:57] <MrElendig> angels: and just leave some unpartitioned space to install ubuntu on
[18:57] <obiwan_> if anyone with a pci-e usb 3.0 card could paste me their lspci that would be of help thanks
[18:57] <Guest48766> guntbert, thanks i got it
[18:57] <DasEi> obiwan_: try hwinfo, finer grained, maybe gnome-devicemanager
[18:58] <obiwan_> kk thanks DasEi
[18:58] <angels> MrElendig - my only concern is a Windows trojan/rootkit crossing over to Linux on the drive... that is not possible is it, even if the Windows drive is mounted?
[18:58] <hispeed88> juppiii burning kubuntu :=) on cd
[18:58] <MrElendig> angels: a trojan written for windows would not run on gnu/linux
[18:58] <ClientAlive> Has anyone heard of running kvm on ubuntu server?
[18:58] <ProfessorBacon> hey what happened to the "about ubuntu" application?  i think i'm on the most recent (non-beta) version but i never both committing the version number to memory.  help?
[18:58] <MrElendig> ClientAlive: yes
[18:58] <DasEi> ClientAlive: in terms of what ?
[18:59] <ClientAlive> it's perfect!!  lol
[18:59] <ldiamond> DasEi, if I add in gnome classic it doesn't display in Unity.
[18:59] <ldiamond> DasEi, the Unity panel is 100% useless.
[18:59] <angels> MrElendig - so I should use GParted again to add an NFTS partition first?
[18:59] <DasEi> ldiamond: I'm overasked then, but others might know, I ask the goo-fu
[18:59] <MrElendig> angels: no
[18:59] <ClientAlive> I've had a lot of probs getting a minimal system on my new box. Been 2 mos fiddling around w/ the darn thing. I need a minimal host to run kvm and then run virt guests for everything
[19:00] <trism> ldiamond: there is indicator-multiload which you can use in unity (and gnome-panel with indicator-applet)
[19:00] <MrElendig> angels: if you are going to have windows on the same disk, just run the windows installer first, and just give it 100gb or whatever you need for apps+games
[19:00] <MrElendig> angels: leave the rest of the space as unpartitioned
[19:00] <MrWobz> ClientAlive I run a kvm + 12 guest setup
[19:00] <DasEi> ldiamond: does apt-cache search indicator-sensors gives an output ?
[19:01] <FKIRE02> hey there can anyone help me with my usb wireless adapter please? I'm running Backtrack 5, based on Natty I think and my adapter stopped working after putting it on monitor mode.. now I just see that lsusb sees it and rfkill as well. When trying ifconfig or iwconfig, it just blocks. I have the firmware and lsusb seems to be accurate about them. What could be the problem?
[19:01] <guntbert> !backtrack | FKIRE02
[19:01] <bazhang> FKIRE02, ask in backtrack support
[19:01] <ldiamond> DasEi, nop
[19:01] <angels> actually i already have Win7 installed on a separate 80GB drive, so I don't think I'll need to put it on this 1TB. I may want to compare Ubuntu, Kubuntu, & Fedora, though
[19:01] <bazhang> FKIRE02, /join #backtrack-linux
[19:02] <FKIRE02> oh thank you :)
[19:02] <Mathuin> I tried to join #wine to ask questions about wine.  Got booted immediately since it's invite-only.  Where should I go to ask a question about using Wine?
[19:02] <ldiamond> DasEi, I guess I'll wait for 12.04 to be released and try to get it working then.
[19:02] <DasEi> ldiamond: there is something around Hardware Sensors Indicator, ask again for one of the unity fans
[19:02] <Pici> Mathuin: their channel is #winehq
[19:02] <Mathuin> Thanks!
[19:02] <angels> I actually like Kubuntu better, but I want to be able to get paid support (Ubuntu, Red Hat) as a newbie
[19:03] <DasEi> angels: nice, but in first hand no need for it, there are plenty of help-sources
[19:03] <troubled> any ideas what package(s) might control or affect kde/qt fonts after upgrade to 11.10?
[19:04] <angels> it is hard explaining some things over chat. I need phone support
[19:05] <angels> for example, I still can't figure out the partitioning & installing. MrElendig - I am not sure how to create the 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home
[19:05] <DasEi> angels:herb costs, phone me, rofl
[19:05] <paxman> angels, ubuntu is not a company to afford that sort of support... be realistic please. this is volunteer support only, people dont get paid
[19:05] <LjL> paxman: err?
[19:06] <Pici> paxman: Canonical does offer paid support contracts.
[19:06] <LjL> paxman: Canonical offers paid support for Ubuntu
[19:06] <DasEi> angels: if that is a concern, rather look for paid local edu, cheaper and more effective
[19:07] <angels> Has anyone tried the Canonical support? Do you have to call the UK?
[19:07] <angels> DasEi - you mean community college?
[19:07] <Pici> angels: You might have a local Linux User's Group that could provide support.
[19:07] <DasEi> angels: and the like, I'm located in germany, we have some kind of lower grade offers here
[19:08] <escott> angels, for such basic stuff as partitioning and installing paying canonical is rather silly. im sure they wouldnt refuse the money, but you should find a LUG and talk to them
[19:08] <hispeed88> i agree escott
[19:08] <hispeed88> i think i can do that without big problems i will see it tomorrow
[19:09] <pndemc> just installing ubuntu?
[19:09] <DasEi> Pici:  adult education center ,evening classes, but it gets ot
[19:09] <violinappren> angels: you get some books and do it the old fashioned way? works rather well
[19:11] <violinappren> angels: i think http://tldp.org/ was/is an invaluable resource for generations of gnu/linux aficionados
[19:12] <tiox0> Hey guys, I am using the UBuntu 12.04 final beta, and I am having difficulty getting a previously-working wireless dongle working. Has been something changed in the final beta, or is the final beta missing some things that enable this stuff to work?
[19:12] <troubled> violinappren: and sunsite.unc.edu! :)
[19:12] <MrElendig> angels: take a look at tldp and the ubuntu install guides
[19:12] <Pici> tiox0 : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:15] <MisterT> hello?
[19:15] <zk274> goodbye
[19:15] <pndemc> :O
[19:15] <MisterT> does anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on an ibook?
[19:15] <mzcl-mn> hello
[19:16] <pndemc> ibooks are PPC, are they not?
[19:16] <MisterT> yes
[19:16] <violinappren> pndemc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[19:16] <pndemc> I don't think it's possible then
[19:16] <MisterT> but when i boot from the CD i got from the website, it's like it can't find anything.  Let me reboot and type everything it says
[19:17] <violinappren> tiox0: pastebin the output of lsusb
[19:17] <violinappren> !pastebin | tiox0
[19:18] <pndemc> yeah, looks like you can only install ubuntu on intel macs
[19:18] <mzcl-mn> hello again
[19:19] <MrWobz> pndemc there isnt a ppc version of ubuntu. not to my knowledge
[19:19] <mzcl-mn> I was trying to see who were the users in this room
[19:19] <MisterT> well i got it @ this URL: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:19] <oCean> !ppc
[19:19] <oCean> !arm
[19:19] <mzcl-mn> does anyone know how to set that in empathy?
[19:20] <genii-around> Also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[19:21] <MisterT> !sparc
[19:21] <mzcl-mn> sorry
[19:21] <rainerborene> exit
[19:21] <mzcl-mn> i've got it now
[19:21] <MisterT> long time ago, i got these linux CDs marked that they were for sparc processors.  Just wondering what that is
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> this must be ackward
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> moving on
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> does anyone here use kate?
[19:22] <i7c> why does plugging in my webcam make pulseaudio freeze? :-/
[19:23] <mzcl-mn> I was at their channel just a second ago and no one could help me
[19:23] <datruth> How can I find what held packages I have, and any other packages that could be broken and remove them so I can upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <FloodBot1> MisterT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <MisterT> it says that first
[19:24] <tgm4883> Trying to setup some UFW firewall rules, I've currently got this http://pastebin.ca/2138401 but will ssh traffic even get to lines 6-16 with line 5 in there?
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> so...
[19:24] <MisterT> then it says /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> hello???
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> ok
[19:24] <jack_^> what's the ubuntu beta channel?
[19:24] <Pici> jack_^: #ubuntu+1
[19:24] <Sidewinder> mzcl-mn, It works..
[19:24] <DasEi> jack_^: #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <jack_^> thanks Pici
[19:25] <MisterT> chroot: cannot execute 'mktemp': input/output error
[19:25] <DasEi> mzcl-mn: just ask the real question ?
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> excuse-me Sidewinder?
[19:25] <bazhang> !enter | MisterT
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> ok
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> i did
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> sorry
[19:25] <MisterT> cp: can't stat '/root/var/cache/debconf/config.dat': input/output error
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> i didn't
[19:26] <MisterT> i'm just saying what it's saying
[19:26] <Sidewinder> !enter
[19:26] <jack_^> !enter
[19:26] <jack_^> ubottu: you suck
[19:26] <Sidewinder> :)
[19:26] <jack_^> i hate that bot
[19:26] <mzcl-mn> I cannot reach the kate's menus from standard ALT+key combination
[19:26] <bazhang> MisterT, pastebin it, and ask a complete question all on one line
[19:26] <tgm4883> use pastebin for multiple lines
[19:26] <nursedad> cane some help me with duel booting ubuntu and win 7
[19:26] <mzcl-mn> does anyone else have the same issue?
[19:27] <DasEi> nursedad: sure, details ?
[19:27] <mzcl-mn> or had= :(
[19:27] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, sorry I don't use kate
[19:27] <DasEi> !dualboot | nursedad
[19:27] <mzcl-mn> no worries tgm4883
[19:27] <Sidewinder> nursedad, If you're new to ubuntu, this is a great site: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[19:27] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, have you tried #kubuntu
[19:27] <nursedad> ill look at both thank youy
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: not yet
[19:28] <Sidewinder> :)
[19:28] <DasEi> nursedad: if you have a specific question, just ask
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> still I am using kate at ubuntu tgm4883
[19:28] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, can you use alt+key in other apps?
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> and kwrite seems to be working well tgm4883
[19:29] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: yes I can
[19:29] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, so if it's just kate that is having the issue, probably not something specific to gnome. You might try #kubuntu as they will more likely be kate users
[19:30] <datruth> oh well Ill just do a fresh install ;/
[19:30] <MisterT> it's all can't find or can't mount, or can't stat, or input/output error
[19:30] <mzcl-mn> maybe I should purge and reinstall tgm4883 and if that doesn't work out I'll get to #kubuntu too
[19:30] <MisterT> what does that mean?
[19:30] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, yea could try that too
[19:31] <nursedad> very old information
[19:31] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: thanks
[19:31] <tgm4883> yw
[19:31] <mzcl-mn> c u
[19:31] <viktor_> does anybody know a way to emulate a right mouse-click, with a touchpad and holding a button down?
[19:31] <guntbert> MisterT: if you want to show us some output please use a !pastebin
[19:31] <guntbert> !pastebin | MisterT
[19:32] <bazhang> MisterT, describe exactly what you are trying to accomplish as well.
[19:32] <MisterT> i can't get the output.  It goes too fast for me to type it into a text editor, and i can't take a screenshot
[19:32] <MisterT> to install ubuntu on this laptop
[19:32] <bazhang> !details | MisterT
[19:32] <crankharder> just installed lucid/server and it boots up to grub, and past that and then.... the monitor turns off, computer's still running, etc
[19:32] <nursedad> when you duel boot can you use the existing windows folders to strore data from both ubuntu and windows?
[19:33] <MisterT> 12.04 is the disk
[19:33] <bazhang> MisterT, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[19:33] <tgm4883> nursedad, kinda yes, kinda no
[19:34] <nursedad> tgm4883 van u explain?
[19:34] <tgm4883> you can access, read and write to ntfs partitions, but I wouldn't store programs and such on them. I'd just use it for accessing media
[19:34] <tgm4883> you won't be able to do any permissions on it either
[19:35] <tgm4883> so anyone that can access the partition can see everything
[19:36] <nursedad> tgm4883 so i could change the default documents in ubuntu to be the windows my documents
[19:36] <tgm4883> nursedad, you mean like a symlink?
[19:36] <violinappren>  nursedad yes
[19:37] <nursedad> tgm4883 no
[19:38] <tgm4883> nursedad, then I'm not sure what you mean
[19:38] <nursedad> violinappren do you have a link or something to direct me
[19:38] <violinappren> nursedad: just drag the folder to the "favorites" sidebar on left side of file manager, will show up in all file dialogs
[19:38] <nursedad> tgm4833 maybe i dont understand simlink
[19:39] <tgm4883> nursedad, it sounds like if you go to /home/USER/Documents you want it to show your My Documents folder on the NTFS partition
[19:39] <tgm4883> that is easily done with a symlink
[19:39] <nursedad> violinappren ok
[19:39] <tgm4883> should be easily done, I don't know if there is any symlink incompatibility with NTFS drives, but I doubt there is
[19:39] <guntbert> tgm4883: a symlink to a folder on ntfs?
[19:40] <tgm4883> guntbert, yea
[19:40] <nursedad> tgm4883 yep thats it
[19:40] <guntbert> tgm4883: I doubt it
[19:40] <tgm4883> guntbert, you doubt it would work, or you doubt there is an incompatibility?
[19:40] <violinappren> nursedad: having the folder in a specific place is meaningless, because you can access it easily from anywhere
[19:40] <guntbert> tgm4883: I doubt it will work
[19:41] <ubuntu> hey guy
[19:41] <tgm4883> guntbert, why?
[19:41] <ubuntu> plz help me
[19:41] <violinappren> no need to stipulate ~/Documents
[19:41] <ubuntu> i can not update my system
[19:41] <ubuntu> apt-get update
[19:41] <guntbert> tgm4883: but I don't really know - call it a "feeling" :-/
[19:41] <Pici> !details | ubuntu
[19:41] <ubuntu> connecting to repositry but process show 0%
[19:41] <nursedad> i just want to have one my docs/docs, one pictures flder etc.. for bothe installs folder for
[19:41] <hemicuda> Hi i need help
[19:41] <violinappren> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update
[19:42] <raubvogel> On op-panel, where are the passwords for voicemail defined? Are they the ones in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf?
[19:42] <tgm4883> guntbert, violinappren I see no reason it wouldn't work, but let me format my flash drive NTFS and verify
[19:42] <ubuntu> apt-get update 0% [Connecting to 111.92.230.101 (111.92.230.101)] [Connecting to 111.92.230.10
[19:42] <ubuntu> this is out put
[19:42] <hemicuda> ubuntu, i need help
[19:42] <tgm4883> ubuntu, what is 111.92.230.101?
[19:42] <ubuntu> what help?
[19:42] <raubvogel> ubuntu, might want to consider using pastebin.com
[19:42] <DasEi> !ask | hemicuda
[19:42] <ubuntu> there not eeror
[19:42] <ubuntu> only this
[19:42] <violinappren> ubuntu: you may switch the mirror in Software Sources and try again
[19:42] <DasEi> ubuntu: fw in place ?
[19:42] <ubuntu> update process not ging furthure
[19:42] <hemicuda> how do i change the wallpaper of my log In screen
[19:43] <ubuntu> fi doesnot working at all
[19:43] <DasEi> ubuntu: can you ping google.com ?
[19:44] <tgm4883> guntbert, violinappren seems to work fine here
[19:44] <ubuntu> yes
[19:44] <ubuntu> my netowrk working fine
[19:44] <ubuntu> i can surf
[19:44] <ubuntu> hping
[19:44] <ubuntu> ping
[19:44] <ubuntu> evrything
[19:44] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <hemicuda> ping -e 3 www.google.com
[19:44] <DasEi> ubuntu: use synaptic to find fastest mirror, try again
[19:44] <guntbert> tgm4883: thx for testing
[19:44] <ubuntu> i want to upgrade my system
[19:44] <ubuntu> but not able to update
[19:44] <hemicuda> nslookup to find ip of google
[19:45] <ubuntu> synaptic packet manager also not able to
[19:45] <hemicuda> nslookup www.google.com
[19:45] <vitoit> ciao atutti
[19:45] <violinappren> ubuntu: open software center, then Edit > Software Sources, then choose a different mirror in "Download from:"
[19:45] <tgm4883> violinappren, you need to mount the NTFS drive permanently via fstab, then use a symlink such as "ln -s /path/to/ntfs/mydocuments/folder /home/USER/DIRNAME"
[19:45] <wylde> !enter | ubuntu
[19:45] <DasEi> ubuntu: what happens if you let it autoping available mirrors ?
[19:45] <guntbert> hemicuda: what is the matter?
[19:45] <hemicuda> how do i change my log in wallpaper
[19:46] <ubuntu> apt-get dist-upgrade E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:46] <tgm4883> violinappren, DIRNAME needs to not exist in your home directory before you do this
[19:46] <DasEi> ubuntu: so ? do it !
[19:46] <ubuntu> it give error
[19:46] <violinappren> ubuntu: then run this command as well to fix broken packages
[19:46] <DasEi> sudo dpkg --configure -a    ?
[19:46] <ubuntu> sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:46] <violinappren> tgm4883: that's interesting
[19:46] <ubuntu> i try to install posgresql
[19:46] <ubuntu> but it broken
[19:47] <joann> hi guys, I'm having problems with ubuntu, I can't mount anything, says not authorized. Any help with that? the account is administrator
[19:47] <tgm4883> joann, what command are you using to mount it?
[19:47] <escott> joann, only root can mount things not in fstab with mount. users in plugdev can mount things with udisks
[19:47] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresql
[19:47] <joann> just plug and play, cd won't work or usb flash drive
[19:48] <ubuntu> ok i will try that
[19:48] <escott> joann, see if "groups" lists plugdev
[19:48] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql *
[19:48] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresqlE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:48] <DasEi> !aptlock
[19:49] <DasEi> .. and make sure neither sw-center nor synaptic are open while fiddling terminal
[19:49] <joann> escott, yes it does and both of the account names are checked.
[19:49] <ubuntu> fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:49] <ubuntu> nothing open only terminal
[19:49] <ubuntu> fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...    here it hold not going futhure
[19:50] <miki> ciao
[19:50] <ubuntu> i try to install posgresql i guess something went wrong in that..i want to remove postgres sql..but i am not able to do
[19:50] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?
[19:50] <miki> !lista
[19:50] <violinappren> ubuntu:  dont interrupt it
[19:51] <ubuntu> ok
[19:51] <ubuntu> i run this command along with that apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run
[19:51] <joann> escott, what do I do from here?
[19:51] <escott> joann, not sure what you mean by checked "groups" is a command line program not a gui, but assuming you are in plugdev, try on the terminal udisks --mount /dev/sdX# where X# is the correct disk
[19:51] <ubuntu> any way if i can recover my whole system form live cd?
[19:52] <tgm4883> ubuntu, is your system encrypted?
[19:52] <ubuntu> no its not encrypted brother
[19:52] <DasEi> ubuntu:nah, ease down, there are several more possibilities
[19:52] <aaa801> Ok so my system is randomly rebooting, Any help ?
[19:52] <joann> escott, I'm in users and groups. I don't know anything about terminal.
[19:52] <ubuntu> aa801>>it problem in ur system
[19:52] <DasEi> aaa801: check /var/log/syslog  and dmesg>dmesgt.txt
[19:53] <tgm4883> then if you boot a livecd you should be able to see everything on the system
[19:53] <ubuntu> so what i do brothers? i can not format my pc coz i have 250 gb data
[19:53] <aaa801> seems to be alot of spam from eth0 on dmesg and the syslog
[19:54] <DasEi> ubuntu:again, calm downa little and try the steps given
[19:54] <tgm4883> ubuntu, did you put that data on a separate partition?
[19:54] <ubuntu> which one? dasei?
[19:54] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?
[19:54] <hypn0> ubuntu, how can you tell everyone here is male :-/
[19:54] <aaa801> i had previsusly set up my ipmi card on the same subnet as the network the pc is connected to
[19:54] <aaa801> could that be causing issues?
[19:54] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:55] <tgm4883> hypn0, he uses the new Gender Over IP Protocol
[19:55] <aaa801> sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:55] <escott> !aptlock | ubuntu
[19:55] <austin182> what is the best software to put on a usb flashdrive to boot a linux distro?
[19:55] <aaa801> DasEi: ?
[19:55] <ubuntu> udo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:56] <DasEi> ubuntu: N, but let it go
[19:56] <bazhang> austin182, try unetbootin or the others, you decide which is best
[19:56] <aaa801> DasEi: Found the error, dma status error, resetting chip
[19:56] <aaa801> over and over
[19:56] <ubuntu> it dont go furthure..even whole night it will be same
[19:56] <austin182> thanks for the help
[19:57] <DasEi> ubuntu:again, calm down a little and try the steps given
[19:57] <DasEi> ubuntu:repeat last command, choose N
[19:57] <ubuntu> i am tryin step seven sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:58] <ubuntu> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:59] <aantoon> regarding 12.04 I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to proceed as there seems to be differing advice. I see it mentioned online that I should mount with DISCARD. But an article from OpenSUSE says DISCARD is not good to use.
[19:59] <aantoon>  http://opensuse.14.n6.nabble.com/SSD-detection-when-creating-first-time-fstab-td3313048.html
[19:59] <aantoon>  Here are my questions
[19:59] <aantoon>  1.) are there any issues I should be aware of if using ubuntu on an SSD? Is ubuntu primarily intended to be used on HDD and not recommended for SSD?
[19:59] <aantoon>  2.) do you recommend TRIM be used for SSD with ubuntu?
[19:59] <FloodBot1> aantoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <aantoon>  3.) If you do recommend TRIM be used, how should TRIM be setup? Automatic wiping, or manual wiping? FITRIM, FSTRIM, or DISCARD?
[19:59] <aaa801> *soo screwed atm*
[20:00] <DasEi> aantoon: ssd is generally well supported, can play with trim later
[20:00] <bazhang> aantoon, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[20:00] <DasEi> aaa801: man hdparm
[20:00] <aaa801> its not my hd
[20:00] <aaa801> ?
[20:00] <aaa801> its a bmc card thats causing hte issues i believe
[20:00] <aaa801> ipmi0
[20:01] <DasEi> aaa801: remove it, retry ?
[20:01] <ubuntu> ok daesi
[20:01] <ubuntu> i gues nothing ca do with that
[20:01] <aaa801> dasei, i kinda need it for remove monitering and offline access
[20:01] <aaa801> remote*
[20:01] <DasEi> ubuntu:does it just sit there ?
[20:01] <DasEi> does
[20:01] <ubuntu> yes
[20:02] <ubuntu> nothing going furthure
[20:02]  * aaa801 delves into the ipmi configuration menus to see wtf is uip
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: ctrl+c
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: repeat command choose N this time
[20:02] <ubuntu> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[20:02] <MisterT> figure it out
[20:02] <ubuntu> now y/n option not coming
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: better sign
[20:03] <ubuntu> now it doesn't asking for y/n     sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[20:03] <DasEi> got it
[20:04] <joseph_> hi guys, something is seriously wrong with my mom's ubuntu computer. I can't mount any drives, or unlock anything (the password prompt won't show up)
[20:05] <joseph_> maybe a new virus? she is good at getting them
[20:05] <ubuntu> apt-get remove postgres90 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   postgres90 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 17 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[20:05] <Pici> !pastebin | ubuntu
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu you have a nother instance of apt running then or synaptic / software centre is being used
[20:06] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938813/
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, let them finish then try again
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> is it possible to cross-compile things for win/os-x on some ubuntu box?
[20:06] <ubuntu> i close evrything
[20:06] <DasEi> ubuntu:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a
[20:06] <ubuntu> then again issue command still its same
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, something is still running
[20:07] <ubuntu> not nothing running
[20:07] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex what are you trying to do exactly
[20:07] <ubuntu> ok now command succesfully works
[20:07] <bazhang> ubuntu, then you did not use sudo
[20:07] <DasEi> ubuntu: ;)
[20:07] <ubuntu> now commad succefully
[20:08] <ubuntu> ok now what i should do?
[20:08] <donavan01> anyone use dropbox and have issues with it not syncing in ubuntu
[20:08] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:08] <ubuntu> 0% [Connecting to 111.92.230.101 (111.92.230.101)] [Connecting to 111.92.230.10
[20:08] <winterpk> Does anyone know the best way to set up sftp for a user but restrict them from full shell access so they are jailed to a home directory?
[20:08] <ubuntu> not going furthure
[20:08] <ratcheer> brontosaurusrex: Depends on what you're making. Most things compiled on Mono will run on Windows.
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: compile https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/source.html with all the whistles
[20:09] <DasEi> ubuntu: give irt a second
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: cli version only
[20:09] <ubuntu> what do you mean brother?
[20:09] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:09] <ubuntu> this not going furthure . my problem is that my pc not connecting to repositry
[20:09] <bazhang> ubuntu, then change mirrors
[20:09] <aaa801> lovely
[20:10] <aaa801> now terminal isnt appearing in search bar
[20:10] <ubuntu> how to change mirror?
[20:10] <DasEi> ubuntu: ctrl+c, sudo synaptic
[20:10]  * aaa801 throws server out of window
[20:10] <bazhang> ubuntu, open up synaptic package manager and change there
[20:10]  * DasEi is happy to have found some free stuff
[20:11] <ubuntu> i am in synaptic where is option for change mirrors?
[20:11] <DasEi> ubuntu: software sources the balcon on the right midle, a rolldown menu
[20:12] <DasEi> other server > find best server
[20:12] <ubuntu> i went to setting then i replace main server to my country name
[20:12] <ubuntu> now saying testing download server
[20:12] <DasEi> just ping them, will take 10 min, to find best one
[20:12] <aaa801> mhm that seems to of clear3ed it up
[20:13] <ubuntu> it says not suitable servers was found :(
[20:13] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex are you trying to compile the program to but used one 3 different OS's  windows,mac,linux ... if so that would greatly depend on the source code.  if the source code is written in such a was so to be portable (as in able to be ported)  the your shouldnt have much issue but you may have to do the actual build inside of there respective environments unless you find an emulator... if this isnt what your talking ab
[20:13] <DasEi> ubuntu: seems there is something wierd with your network then
[20:13] <ubuntu> no brother i have 2 netconnection..usb broadband and also wifi
[20:14] <winterpk> Does anyone konw how to jail an sftp user?
[20:14] <ubuntu> i tested form both network ..same problem it not have issue with port block etc
[20:14] <DasEi> ubuntu: how do you connect ?for distupgrades always cabled
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: right, so my best bet is probably a lion running virtual lion , so i can nuke that one ?
[20:16] <DasEi> jailtool and rssh are your friends
[20:16] <DasEi> !chroot | winterpk
[20:16] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex why would you virtualize the OS your already running (unless your trying to build from a sterile envornment there is no sense in that)?
[20:16] <DasEi> jailtool and rssh are your friends, winterpk
[20:17] <winterpk> ok, thanks guys.  I will look into both tools.
[20:17] <DasEi> ubuntu: well apt is fine again,  there is an issue with your network
[20:18] <hemicuda> ubuntu sucks
[20:18] <bazhang> hemicuda, wrong channel then
[20:19] <DasEi> ubuntu: could you pastebin /etc/resolv.conf   ,  /etc/apt/soiurces.list
[20:19] <Troller> hemicuda why are you here lol
[20:19] <Troller> also what distro you use?
[20:19] <hemicuda> i heard there is a new linux virus
[20:19] <bazhang> !ot | hemicuda
[20:21] <DasEi> ubuntu left, lil' less patience
[20:22] <okanbasoglu> hi
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> i know this is ubuntu channel but anyone used dnspython
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> im having a problem with it
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> its not reading my /etc/hosts file
[20:23] <Bolofo> Hello?
[20:23] <lukebrannon> I'm trying to rsync files between ubuntu 10.04 hosts using rsync 2.6.9 and I'm getting the "protocol version mismatch -- is your shell clean?" error.  googling the error, example after example says that if I run ssh host /bin/true > out.dat and come up w/ a zero length file I should be fine, but I'm getting just that and the error persists.  is there anything else to try?
[20:23] <Pici> okanbasoglu: #python would be a more appropriate place to ask./
[20:24] <okanbasoglu> Pici: i tried there but no luck
[20:25] <troubled> lukebrannon: curious, did you try using `-e ssh` for rsync instead of using rsync protocol?
[20:25] <troubled> otherwise, I haven't had to deal with mismatch myself, sorry
[20:25] <Pici> okanbasoglu: I'm there, and you aren't. You need to be registered and identified to join.
[20:27] <okanbasoglu> Pici: I am registered thanks for the tip
[20:27] <finnguy> I've been wondering this, finally will ask: why is my mouse always unstable in movement in ubuntu? is it because it's a really cheap logitech?
[20:27] <lukebrannon> troubled: this is the command I'm using: sudo -E rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:27] <Pici> okanbasoglu: oh, you aren't identified now, :)
[20:27] <violinappren> finnguy: try adjusting acceleration or sensitivity, i use cheap mouses all the time
[20:28] <troubled> lukebrannon: hmm -E? always thought it was -e. sec whilst I open a terminal :)
[20:28] <troubled> oh nm, that was for sudo not rsync, my bad
[20:28] <lukebrannon> troubled: sorry should have left the -E part that's for sudo
[20:28] <tbrown> Am making a youtube video about zenwalk can anyone tell me some infomation on it
[20:28] <troubled> ya gotcha. trying to mentally digest your cli-fu :)
[20:29] <violinappren> !ot | tbrown
[20:29] <troubled> lukebrannon: maybe need some \' in there?
[20:29] <troubled> lukebrannon: otherwise, seems to me like it would get say 'ssh --rsync-path '
[20:30] <crankharder> just installed lucid/server and it boots up to grub, and past that and then.... the monitor turns off, computer's still running, etc
[20:30] <lukebrannon> troubled: sorry typo: rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh' --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:31] <crankharder> i can get to a root prompt from recovery mode, but that doesn't tell me much
[20:31] <HyperNerdV2> .list
[20:31] <HyperNerdV2> oops
[20:32] <violinappren> crankharder: check the next-to-last syslog?
[20:33] <troubled> lukebrannon: i usually start by simplifying things, like try get a basic rsync going first. im assuming there is a reason you need to sudo rsync? also, i cant say ive tried --rsh before. i use '-e ssh', like: rsync --delete -avz -e ssh /somedir/ root@some.box:/some/dest/
[20:33] <rallias> I'm following the guide found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN , but the "Machine A" is directly on the internet. How do I change what I do to deal with this fact?
[20:33] <lukasz_> LUKASZ
[20:33] <guntbert> crankharder: silly idea - does alt+left get you anywhere?
[20:33] <crankharder> violinappren: where's that?
[20:33] <lukebrannon> troubled: thank you I will give that a try
[20:34] <troubled> lukebrannon: just don't forget to sudofy it :)
[20:34] <violinappren> crankharder: /var/log/messages in lucid
[20:34] <troubled> and dont forget --dry-run! :)
[20:34] <troubled> esp. with --delete
[20:34] <crankharder> violinappren: sorry, oneiric
[20:34] <lukebrannon> thanks!
[20:35] <crankharder> no var/log/messages
[20:35] <troubled> lukebrannon: work?
[20:36] <violinappren> crankharder: then it's called syslog not messages
[20:37] <crankharder> violinappren: that only has the current boot tho?
[20:37] <crankharder> i can only get to that file in recovery mode
[20:37] <violinappren> crankharder: .n where n is a number
[20:37] <escott> troubled, what are you trying to do?
[20:37] <troubled> escott: not me, lukebrannon
[20:37] <violinappren> crankharder: for example syslog.1
[20:38] <tgm4883> Has anyone used knockd with UFW? I'd like to limit the subnets that can knock and open the SSH port
[20:39] <crankharder> guntbert: erm, yea, alt-left fixed it -- what's that doing?
[20:40] <escott> lukebrannon, why are you using --rsh='ssh' that doesn't make a lot of sense
[20:41] <troubled> escott: i think he's off trying -e ssh now :)
[20:41] <waeter> can anyone tell me why i have, or more importantly how to fix the fact that in my grub i'm only showing 3 recovery kernels and a windows partition? :(
[20:42] <guntbert> crankharder: it switches to the next "virtual terminal" - you can go on like that
[20:42] <escott> troubled, -e ssh or --rsh='ssh' is the default
[20:43] <Tasmania> hey elky.
[20:43] <troubled> escott: you know, that rings a bell. only since i recall it was rsync proto that was the one I always needed to specify
[20:43] <lukebrannon> escott: I trimmed out too much of the line, I"m sorry it should be: sudo -E rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh -i /path/to/pem' --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:44] <escott> lukebrannon, (a) remove the second sudo thats not necessary
[20:44] <troubled> his rsyncs are making my brain hurt, switch to scp man ;)
[20:45] <troubled> im guessing by "pem" he's dealing with PKI certs that need to be copied securely
[20:45] <troubled> which im guessing is why he has a second sudo
[20:45] <troubled> lukebrannon: the root@some.server implies root, so no sudo needed
[20:45] <escott> lukebrannon, also /usr/bin should be in the path on any sane system so --rsync-path should not be necessary
[20:45] <troubled> although that also implies root logins allowed, in which case, I can see your issue
[20:46] <guntbert> !enter | troubled
[20:47] <escott> troubled, right... lukebrannon can you express to us what exactly it is you want to accomplish here?
[20:47] <troubled> guntbert: sorry, 15 year old habit ;)
[20:47] <plouffe> waeter, what is missing?
[20:48] <locadmin> hi
[20:48] <lukebrannon> troubled: no root login, escott: short story: i need to duplicate a directory structure (including files) from one server to another, i thought a cron'd rsync would be good for that
[20:48] <pingvin> hello
[20:48] <waeter> plouffe: everything lol. the only linux i can boot into is recovery mode
[20:48] <plouffe> waeter, you can run sudo update-grub and sudo grub-install /dev/sda (if /dev/sda is where your grub is)
[20:49] <escott> lukebrannon, but why does it have to be done as root?
[20:49] <waeter> plouffe: i did sudo update-grub and grub-install, but i didn't try grub-install /dev/sda..maybe that'll do the trick
[20:50] <Advocated> Hi there, how can i tell if a cronjob is running, or can i see  alist of current cronjobs some how?
[20:50] <plouffe> waeter, yes you need to specify the MBR location
[20:50] <DasEi> crankharder: full update/grade from init 1, reconfigure gdm btw. lightwm
[20:50] <troubled> lukebrannon: i think a limited group readable file/dir with no sudo/root would probably be better for the access on the remote machine (passwordless/unattended ssh keys after all)
[20:50] <pingvin> im kinda a noob for ubuntu but how can i change from unity to gnome 3?
[20:50] <lukebrannon> escott: i suppose it doesn't, but the files aren't owned by the user doing the transfer
[20:50] <locadmin> l
[20:50] <locadmin> exit
[20:50] <DasEi> crankharder: additional x is a good idea
[20:50] <locadmin> quit
[20:50] <locadmin> close
[20:50] <locadmin> finish?
[20:50] <FloodBot1> locadmin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <polishguy94> Hello! How can I make the system to leave some bandwidth while downloading software packages for other internet applications?
[20:50] <DasEi> locadmin:  /part
[20:51] <auronandace> !notunity | pingvin
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> pingvin  Unity is gnome3
[20:51] <troubled> lukebrannon: could always make an account in the same group as the files/dirs, and skip the remote sudo, no? forgive misunderstanding, i don't know your system control/access
[20:51] <escott> lukebrannon, so, put the commands in the crontab for that user. you won't be able to run any of this with sudo anyways
[20:52] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: not exactly, unity is a shell on top of gnome3
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  yes, i typed enter too soon
[20:52] <waeter> plouffe: thanks a bunch, i'll give that a try asap :)
[20:52] <polishguy94> Does anyone have an answer to my question?
[20:52] <lukebrannon> escott: thanks for the suggestion, I will rethink what I'm doing, troubled thanks as well
[20:53] <troubled> lukebrannon: np, and gl
[20:55] <DasEi> polishguy94: http://www.mastershaper.org/index.php/Main_Page
[20:55] <Advocated> ive just done ps -e | grep cron  and its showing: 3707 ?        00:00:56 cron  how can i see what that is?
[20:55] <polishguy94> DasEi: thanks
[20:56] <escott> Advocated, its cron. what is your question. so you want to see whats in the crontab?
[20:56] <Advocated> escott, im wondering if its my cronjob running, i started one at 9pm, and want to see if its running or stopped :S
[20:57] <Hebram> polishguy94:  This is a few years old, but it might help.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20342
[20:57] <auronandace> Hebram: he left
[20:57] <Advocated> escott, is that cron as in the function of cron or a specific cron job?
[20:57] <escott> Advocated, if you have a job started by cron it should appear directly in your ps aux output, but you could check pstree
[20:58] <Advocated> escott, so ps aux | grep cron?
[20:58] <escott> Advocated, crond runs as root on my system with the name "cron"
[20:58] <Advocated> which only lists: root      3707  0.0  0.0   2140   596 ?        Ss   Feb02   0:56 /usr/sbin/cron
[20:58] <escott> Advocated, if your crontab lists /my/executable then ps aux | grep "/my/executable" should show your process
[20:59] <Advocated> and root      6478  0.0  0.0   2888   820 pts/1    S+   21:57   0:00 grep cron
[20:59] <troubled> Advocated: tried greppng your logs to see if/when it ran?
[20:59] <Advocated> so my cron should run a .php file, its not showing that
[20:59] <Advocated> troubled, what log?
[20:59] <troubled> syslog prolly
[20:59] <troubled> although it probably gets logged to a few diff spots
[21:00] <troubled> ie: grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[21:00] <escott> Advocated, then see if php is running
[21:01] <Advocated> troubled, syslog shows only  Apr 20 21:00:01 router /USR/SBIN/CRON[32375]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/php -c /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini /var/www/ed.php
[21:01] <MrWobz> is it possible to start ubuntu in recovery to write to a read only disk ?
[21:01] <escott> MrWobz, why is the disk read only?
[21:01] <troubled> Advocated: is ed.php the file you expected it to run?
[21:02] <Advocated> troubled, yeah but it should have sent loads of emails, it didnt, so i think it crashed or stopped or something, i just want to know if its died, or still runnning :S
[21:02] <MrWobz> escott ive had slow drives.. and dmesg has shown that [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:02] <escott> Advocated, if you have a file name "somescript.php" with #!/bin/php in the first line then you should look for /usr/bin/hp -c /path/to/somescript.php
[21:02] <MrWobz> then it says [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:02] <MrWobz> [    4.701781] EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery
[21:02] <MrWobz> [    4.722534] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
[21:02] <troubled> Advocated: looks like it ran. mail may have just been sent to root instead of your user though, dunno, depends on lots of things
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.701781] EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.722534] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.722692] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    6.139917] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro
[21:03] <FloodBot1> MrWobz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <sokak> Hwdy :3 Any ffmpeg dude round here?
[21:03] <escott> MrWobz, so you need to boot either the livecd or to recovery and run fsck on the device
[21:03] <Advocated> troubled, so its ran, but now not running now?
[21:03] <bazhang> sokak, whats the question
[21:03] <troubled> Advocated: if it were still running, you would see a php in the process list
[21:03] <escott> !fsck | MrWobz
[21:03] <Advocated> ah ok, perfect, thanks troubled and thankes escott
[21:04] <sokak> hey bazhang, im trying to demux some mkv to avi to be viewed on a home theater, but i cant manage to produce something with audio. The source has a double audio stream with subs.
[21:05] <kakashiSenpai> hey guys, do any of you know how to change ubuntu orange color to another one
[21:05] <bazhang> sokak, avi to m4v? mkv to m4v?
[21:05] <MrWobz> escott and ubottu   Is it because my drives are running in a recovery mode ? that hdparm is slow ? I only have access to the machine via ssh
[21:05] <bazhang> !themes | kakashiSenpai
[21:05] <sokak> bazhang,  mkv to avi sorry for not being clear
[21:06] <bazhang> sokak, not sure why you'd want that.
[21:06] <escott> MrWobz, MrWobz if the drive is read only just run sudo fsck /dev/sdX#
[21:06] <sokak> bazhang, cheap dvd player at my home ;) i want to see em without the computer
[21:06] <bazhang> sokak, whats the home theater player by the way
[21:06] <troubled> MrWobz: ubottu is a bot btw ;)
[21:07] <sokak> bazhang, a no name no brand cheap 20 bucks thing ^^ But can play avis, but refuses mkv
[21:07] <bazhang> sokak, why not use devede to make the avi into a dvd player readable disc
[21:07] <bazhang> sokak, can it play m4v
[21:07] <MrWobz> escott thanks, I read if I do a forcefsk on reboot ill need to type a password in before boot
[21:08] <sokak> bazhang, the point is that i would like to try to make a simple container change, trying to preserve the double audio (there is in fact an audio button on the remote, and i would like to see if works :))
[21:08] <kakashiSenpai> @bazhang I mean the color when you select something, the scroll bar color etc..
[21:08] <zykotick9> sokak: are you sure AVI can support multiple audio streams?
[21:08] <sokak> bazhang, i guess not, it has only opened avi files til now (yes, some with h.264)
[21:08] <Dr_Willis_Testin> devede converts and makes dvd video disk iso files. it dosent really play stuff. ;)
[21:08] <graft> hey, anyone know how to minimize a window from the command-line?
[21:08] <sokak> zykotick9, i want to try to see if works ;)
[21:09] <bazhang> sokak, ok, not sure about how ffmpeg woudl do that, I usually use handbrake for most of that, there may well be a ffmpeg channel for more expert opinions; /msg alis list **ffmpeg* should reveal any
[21:09] <Guest307> does anyone know if there's a way to create raid and lvm during an ubuntu server install? I mean, is it available during the installation?
[21:09] <jrib> graft: you can probably do so with wmctrl
[21:09] <sokak> bazhang, zykotick9, til now i managed to map the audio and video streams, i dont know how to "encode" subs
[21:09] <sokak> bazhang, thx for the info :)
[21:09] <Dr_Willis_Testin> Guest307:  I Think the anternative cd installer has that feature.
[21:10] <Dr_Willis_Testin> night all.
[21:10] <graft> jrib: nein, wmctrl has a way to add the 'hidden' state to a window, but that doesn't do anything
[21:11] <Guest307> Dr_Willis_Testin: is that an option on the server install disk or you talking about a completely different install source?
[21:11] <troubled> Guest307: he left, but it sounded like a different iso image
[21:12] <Guest307> It sounded like that to me too. troubled: I don't know what I have to do to get what I need. Seems like something missing every corner I turn.
[21:12] <bazhang> Guest307, the alternate cd
[21:12] <jrib> graft: I'd be pretty surprised if wmctrl couldn't minimize windows, are you sure?
[21:13] <bazhang> !alternate | Guest307
[21:13] <zykotick9> bazhang: is there actually a difference between alternate and serve ISOs re: lvm/raid?  Guest307
[21:13] <troubled> Guest307: no idea, i use debian on servers at home here, havent used ubuntu. but if your iso has the pv/vg/lv LVM tools and mdadm, you could do it by hand I guess
[21:13] <Guest307> I'm trying to do  server install, not live cd
[21:14] <bazhang> zykotick9, I've used alternate not server, so cant really answer there
[21:14] <auronandace> !raid | Guest307
[21:15] <Guest307> hmm. Ok, well I'll see what I can do. A guy would think that's possible, given it's a sever system/ software.
[21:15] <DrManhattan> how do I monitor lm-sensors - there's a command to simply run lm-sensors and refresh it every second or so
[21:15] <DrManhattan> I can't remember what it is though
[21:15] <Guest307> thx ubottu
[21:15] <zykotick9> !cookie | ubottu
[21:15] <troubled> zykotick9: :)
[21:15] <zykotick9> troubled: didn't work like i'd hoped ;)
[21:16] <jrib> graft: you might also try xdotool
[21:16] <angs> what is the shortcut to open the taskmanager to kill a task?
[21:17] <jrib> angs: there is no such shortcut by default
[21:17] <fl1bbl3> taskmanager?
[21:17] <fl1bbl3> whats that?
[21:18] <DrManhattan> how do I monitor lm-sensors - there's a command to simply run lm-sensors and refresh it every second or so
[21:18] <fl1bbl3> xdotool is great
[21:18] <troubled> DrManhattan: worst case: watch -n1 <somecommand>
[21:18] <DrManhattan> watch! thats it
[21:18] <DrManhattan> thank you
[21:18] <troubled> np
[21:18] <DasEi> angs: terminal, either top,htop or ps, find PID. stop that
[21:18] <graft> jrib: yeah, trying that now
[21:18] <DasEi> !pid
[21:18]  * DrManhattan hands troubled a delicious cup of starbucks
[21:18] <angs> what is the windows taskmanager equivalent of ubuntu?
[21:19]  * troubled om noms
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: terminal, either top,htop or ps, find PID. stop that
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: open a terminal ...
[21:19] <Enissay> I do need help with a bash script, anyone can give it a look please :)
[21:19] <plouffe> angs, system monitor
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: which app you wanto to stop ?
[21:19] <angs> qt SDK
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : ps -aux | grep sdk
[21:20] <angs> thanks a lot
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : waiit
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : now you see a number there, the PID
[21:20] <zykotick9> DasEi: fyi it's "ps aux" and you might want ".. grep -i sdk" in case it's SDK
[21:21] <fl1bbl3> oh xubuntu does actually have a taskmanager gui app
[21:21] <DasEi> angs : kill PidHere               , mind zykotick9
[21:21] <fl1bbl3> looks like shit and I can't help wondering how on earth would use it
[21:21] <troubled> fl1bbl3: ever tried "top"?
[21:22] <fl1bbl3> yes
[21:22] <bazhang> fl1bbl3, no cursing
[21:22] <DasEi> angs: another way to see processes are top and htop; sudo apt-get install htop && htop
[21:22]  * zykotick9 likes htop over htop
[21:22] <troubled> O_o
[21:22] <zykotick9> top for that 2nd one ;)
[21:22] <fl1bbl3> bazhang: apologies, but it really does :)
[21:22] <DasEi> angs: kill  terminates single PID's , killall their childprocesses, too
[21:22]  * troubled takes a look at htop
[21:23] <zykotick9> DasEi: killall also kills by name instead of PID
[21:23] <DasEi> man kill , man killall fore more options , angs
[21:23] <troubled> oh this one, ya pretty color top :)
[21:23] <DasEi> zykotick9: time to stop, gtting tired, true
[21:24] <zykotick9> troubled: i do turn off the thread stuff in htop - makes it more manageable IMO
[21:24] <Enissay> I do need help with a bash script, anyone can give it a look please coz it 's not working :( : http://pastebin.com/qYfjGBpT
[21:24] <troubled> zykotick9: needs a better color scheme imho ;)
[21:24] <ipnosi77> ciao
[21:24] <ipnosi77> !list
[21:26] <hemicuda> hello
[21:26] <zykotick9> troubled: the scrolling down the list is a feature top really lacks
[21:26] <DasEi> Enissay: wrong use of "", ask in #bash
[21:27] <kakashiSenpai> !theme
[21:28] <troubled> zykotick9: top -bn1 | less ;)
[21:29] <ipnosi77> ciao
[21:29] <ipnosi77> !list
[21:29] <zykotick9> troubled: or that... ;)
[21:29] <troubled> zykotick9: sorry, had to be a smartass, but ya it would be nice built in :)
[21:30] <zykotick9> troubled: that's no longer real time though
[21:30] <zykotick9> troubled: using top/htop to kill stuff is sometimes handy
[21:31] <Guest307> the regular server install cd has stuff in the partitioner to create raid and lvm - btw
[21:31] <troubled> zykotick9: ya definetly nice tools to be familiar with
[21:31]  * dlentz sometimes randomly uses htop to kill processes for fun
[21:31] <hemicuda> I have a coconut for a brain
[21:31]  * dlentz needs professional therapy
[21:32] <troubled> Guest307: good to know, thanks. so im guessing its not a problem to do it, just that you have to do it manually via menus instead of automatic partitioning or something?
[21:32] <Ammar_> hello
[21:33] <Ammar_> anyone there?
[21:33]  * fisix hello
[21:33] <Ammar_> is this thing working?
[21:33] <dlentz> Ammar_, yes
[21:33]  * fisix nothing works
[21:33] <Ammar_> great :D
[21:34] <zykotick9> Guest307: the text installers (server,alternative,mini) are a lot closer to d-i (debian installer) and typically support more hardware (expecially storage devices/schemes)...
[21:34] <Ammar_> I wanted to ask a question about installation of ubuntu
[21:34] <dlentz> Ammar_, ask away
[21:34] <Ammar_> I have a HP G62 laptop
[21:34] <Ammar_> I want to install ubuntu on it.
[21:34] <Ammar_> but not via wubi
[21:35] <Ammar_> instead I want to install it over my windows 7 partation
[21:35] <zykotick9> Ammar_: try to put your comments on one line.  I'm sending you !enter after this.
[21:35] <troubled> zykotick9: so the server install is generally a gui with less functionality than the text mode?
[21:35] <zykotick9> !enter > Ammar_
[21:35] <zykotick9> troubled: server -> gui... what?  it's all text, install and running ;)
[21:36] <Ammar_> oh sorry. leme type the entire thing.
[21:36] <zykotick9> troubled: GUIs on servers make NO sense to me ;)
[21:36] <troubled> zykotick9: oh, sorry I guess I misread. sounded like you were implying the server instead had a GUI installer version too (not GUI server itself)
[21:37] <dlentz> Ammar_, unless you're hurting for disk space, i'd suggest shrinking the Windows partition and keeping it (it could be useful if you have to send it in for repairs)
[21:37] <zykotick9> troubled: the non-gui installers support more filesystem/storage device options - was my point ;)
[21:37] <troubled> zykotick9: gotcha. sorry, im slow some days ;) that and I havent actually tried ubuntu server before, but thought about it and was curious
[21:39] <Ammar_> I have HP G62 laptop. it currently has windows 7 installed on it. It also has 4 partitions. C:\, HP_Tools, Recovery, System. I want to overwrite the partition C:\ where my windows is installed. The question here is, if I overwrite it, will I be able to restore windows from the recovery?
[21:40] <troubled> Ammar_: i did similar on a desktop with ubuntu and just blew away C. worked fine, and grub had menu item to start the "windows" partition which was the system recovery (which did run fine)
[21:40] <quackers> Ammar_, have you made recovery disc(s) just in case?
[21:40] <Ammar_> Oh and if I overwrite it, will my other partitions get effected?
[21:41] <Ammar_> yes I have a recovery disc
[21:41] <zykotick9> Ammar_: i can't help you - but want to point something out.  default ubuntu install requires 2 partitions (/ and swap) if you have 4 primary partitions (the limit in most cases) you have an issue.
[21:41] <quackers> always a good idea in case the recovery partition has a problem in the future
[21:41] <troubled> also might be good to make file iso's of those recovery disks too and save them on a hd
[21:41] <Ammar_> the HP came with 4 partitions.
[21:42] <OerHeks> Ammar_, then use all space, recovery disc can restore your windows as it came from factory
[21:42] <quackers> a lot of people in your position delete the HP Tools partition then shrink the C: drive in Windows then install Ubuntu in the resulting free space
[21:42] <quackers> in logical partitions
[21:43] <troubled> Ammar_: I think you only actually need the recovery partition, since it would restore the OS and the tools partition, but don't quote me since I havent actually tested
[21:43] <Ammar_> I actually made a system repair disc. is that the recovery disk?
[21:43] <troubled> Ammar_: my machine is an HP desktop too, if that means much
[21:43] <quackers> No!!! you need to make recovery dvd(s) too
[21:44] <quackers> there is usually a program on there that will do it. Verify the write too and make more than one set of discs
[21:44] <troubled> ya, they should specifically be called "recovery" and be like 2 - 4 dvd's depending on the age of the box (vista vs win7 for example)
[21:45] <Ammar_> my HP did not ship with any recovery disk.
[21:45] <jcdutton> I would just replace the HD, that way you don't have to worry about the windows stuff
[21:45] <quackers> a repair disc is only a couple hundred meg. A recovery set can be one or two dvd's
[21:45] <troubled> Ammar_: most dont ship with them these days it seems. sad really :(
[21:46] <quackers> that's why there is usually a program on there that will make them
[21:46] <share> !party
[21:46] <quackers> Possible in the recovery section
[21:46] <Ammar_> so after making a recovery disk, can I simply format the entire harddrive and install ubuntu?
[21:46] <share> !Precise
[21:47] <Ammar_> and if I want to restore windows, can I use that same disk?
[21:47] <troubled> Ammar_: pretty much ya. but i would back up those dvd's to files asap. dvd's have a way of dying when you need them :)
[21:47] <share> 26 April :)
[21:47] <Hebram> Ammar_:  You still have your personal data to worry about.  Make sure you copy it off your drive before you destroy you partitions.
[21:48] <quackers> yes. I usually make 2 sets of them - and always verify the data
[21:48] <troubled> par2 is great if you back them up to files as well. don't want a pesky bad sector to ruin your day!
[21:48] <Ammar_> alright I think I got it :D
[21:49] <Hebram> Definately verify.  The recovery disk maker that came with my Lenovo expires after you write one set.
[21:49] <troubled> Ammar_: one last thing; don't forget to actually test boot the dvds. and if you are gonna just wipe the drive, try a test recover
[21:50] <Ammar_> So all I need to do is create a recovery disk, make the entire backup of all my files, use ubuntu to clear my partitions and install it on my harddisk
[21:50] <balleyne> I'm sharing my 3G connection via Ubuntu's hotspot wifi thing as an ad-hoc wifi connection... is there a way for me to see a list of devices that are connected to me right now?
[21:50] <quackers> yep
[21:50] <troubled> Ammar_: and to test discs, backups and recovery process, but ya :)
[21:51] <delinquentme> I'm using "grep -r 'background' .css" to try and find the KW 'background' within .css files
[21:51] <delinquentme> what am i missing here?
[21:51] <Hebram> Ammar_: And be prepared to destroy your recovery disk after you love your transition to Linux.
[21:51] <balleyne> delinquentme, there's no file called ".css"
[21:51] <troubled> delinquentme: like: grep -R background *.css?
[21:51] <Ammar_> hehe :P
[21:51] <balleyne> delinquentme, you should give the directory as an argument if you want it to recurse through something with the -r, or even '*.css'
[21:51] <violinappren> balleyne: iwlist wlan0 peers
[21:52] <delinquentme> grep: *.css: No such file or directory
[21:52] <Ammar_> I also wanted to ask few more things such as
[21:52] <balleyne> delinquentme, are the CSS files in your current directory? Or are they in subdirectories?
[21:52] <delinquentme>  grep -r background *.css >> grep: *.css: No such file or directory
[21:52] <delinquentme> sub dirs
[21:52] <Ammar_> what is the difference between speed of wubi and the actual installed ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> thats what i thought -r does?
[21:52] <troubled> well, unless it doesn't match the glob in the current dir
[21:53] <troubled> grep -r background *, would though, but would also match other stuff too
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, -r recurses through subdirectories of the argument you gave it
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, but you gave it "*.css"
[21:53] <troubled> or could try: find ./ -type f -name *.css -exec grep background "{}" \;
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, unless "*.css" is the name of your directory, grep will not recurse through anything
[21:54] <violinappren> delinquentme:  find . -iname "*.css" |  grep -i "background"
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, you want something like: grep -r 'background' css/
[21:54] <neco198> Hi alll, I have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962238
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, or grep -r 'background' public_html/
[21:54] <Ammar_> what is the difference between speed of wubi and the actual installed ubuntu
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, where css/ or public_html is the name of the directory you want grep to recursively check
[21:54] <delinquentme> this is complex huh?
[21:54] <delinquentme> ill just feed it a dir thanks
[21:54] <troubled> depends :) just 1000 ways to do it hehe
[21:54] <violinappren> delinquentme: not if you use the right tool
[21:55] <delinquentme> well I'm sitting here needing to pipe things around to find something within a type of file?
[21:55] <violinappren> delinquentme: welcome to unix :)
[21:55] <troubled> :)
[21:55] <delinquentme> thats dumb
[21:56] <violinappren> delinquentme: dont use it
[21:56] <delinquentme> theres a search tool but from the little bit i used grep I really liked it .. super fast too
[21:56] <balleyne> delinquentme, you're using grep wrong. no need to pipe through find. just give grep a path that actually exists, and it'll recursively grep it
[21:56] <delinquentme> violinappren,  find . -iname "*.css" |  grep -i "background" << that gave me nada
[21:56] <troubled> delinquentme: you could do like you had too with globs that start with a dir that knowingly has css files too like: grep -r background ./{dira,dirb}/*.css
[21:56] <violinappren> delinquentme: what was the find command give without piping to grep?
[21:57] <troubled> if you were going to pipe find output to anything, you probably want to send it to something like xargs though
[21:57] <user82> hi i tried to install grub manually. are the commands "grub-install somedevice" and "update-grub" sufficient to make it bootable
[21:57] <delinquentme> violinappren, so the idea is use find to locate the CSS files
[21:58] <delinquentme> then pipe the files into grep to search?
[21:58] <delinquentme> balleyne, is there a way to recurse through every sub dir of the current dir to find "background" within a .css file?
[21:58] <fl1bbl3> you don't need to do that, just do a recursive grep from the ./ dir
[21:58] <troubled> delinquentme: just try this: find ./ -type f -name *.css -exec grep -Hi background "{}" \;
[21:59] <troubled> change -name to -iname, if you have some files as .CSS and .css (ie: mixed case)
[21:59] <hemicuda> I need help
[21:59] <delinquentme>  grep "background" -r ./ *.css
[21:59] <delinquentme> thatll do!
[21:59] <balleyne> delinquentme, `grep -r background .` will recurse through every sub dir of the current dir and return 'background within *any* file
[22:00] <troubled> poor guy hehe
[22:00] <neco198> Hi all, I need help for fix this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962238
[22:00] <delinquentme> balleyne, so yeah i was just looking for a way to structure the query .. so now I'ma just do  grep <keyword>  <opts> <dirs> <files>
[22:01] <balleyne> delinquentme, don't think that'll work... to use <dirs> and <files> at the end... grep will just go through those both as a list of paths, try to recursively search the first, then the second
[22:02] <delinquentme> balleyne, i like that solution :D
[22:02] <Hypnoz> does anyone know a simpler way to write this bash script? http://pastie.org/3825216
[22:02] <troubled> aww, does that mean balleyne gets the cookie? ;)
[22:03] <Hypnoz> I couldn't do for x in ${var}{1..2}; do
[22:03] <redragoonz> how do i get and external vga to work on 10.4?
[22:03] <balleyne> troubled, nomnomnom
[22:03] <redragoonz> how do i get and external vga to work on 10.4?
[22:03] <troubled> Hypnoz: why not just "for x in a b c; ...."?
[22:03] <redragoonz> when i restart it come up on the screen with the login but dissappears after
[22:04] <Hypnoz> I want a 1 and 2 of each
[22:04] <Hypnoz> so a b c should example to a1 a2 b1 b2 c1 c2
[22:04] <trism> Hypnoz: echo {a,b,c}{1,2}
[22:04] <Hypnoz> redragoonz: did you check "System > Administration > Monitors" >
[22:05] <troubled> trism: +1
[22:05] <Hypnoz> redragoonz: err I guess System > Preferences > Monitors
[22:05] <redragoonz> yes and when i log out it doesnt work
[22:06] <redragoonz> i get the login screen to come up on the external but then it goes out after i enter my pw
[22:06] <Hypnoz> trism: as echo it works, as for loop it doesn't
[22:06] <troubled> Hypnoz: i think the point is that you don't need the nested for loops, an echo will do
[22:07] <Hypnoz> well I want to do some actions on each server hostname in the for loop
[22:07] <Hypnoz> and there are two of each, for which I have a list of just the base without the 1 or 2
[22:08] <Hypnoz> so I want a for loop that goes through the list and expands it out with a <name>1 or <name>2 of each
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Hypnoz  there may be a specific scripting channel for that
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> like #bash or #C
[22:10] <Hypnoz> MonkeyDust: ya I was gonna try #bash but this channel is always alive and kickin
[22:11] <fl1bbl3> MonkeyDust: or #homework ?
[22:11] <Hypnoz> I'm using ubuntu server so this is also technically ubuntu related :)
[22:11] <Hypnoz> this isn't #homework this is for #realwork
[22:12] <fl1bbl3> to what end?
[22:18] <dreamwave> guys.. is there a way to run some connections trough VPN and others NOT trough VPN (regular internet) ?
[22:18] <Benkinooby> hi, when playing music, the music get's jittery and laggy... /var/log/messages says "pulseaudio[7607]: ratelimit.c: 13 events suppressed" i was not able to find a solution .... i use ubuntu 10.04
[22:21] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, yes
[22:21] <dreamwave> ok.. how do I do that ?
[22:22] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, but i only know about some kind of "hard core way" - you'd have to mess around with iptables... are you familiar with that?
[22:23] <dreamwave> I know how to do it with code.. I need to run a software trough vpn and my browser .. not trough vpn
[22:23] <dreamwave> so, Benkinooby ..you have any ideas about that ?
[22:24] <joeoshawa> I am trying to upload pictures via usb from an htc android phone to ubuntu but there doesn't seem to be a way to transfer files from the phone to the card or to ubuntu directly can anyone help?
[22:24] <joeoshawa> it's android 2.3.5
[22:24] <espen___> exit
[22:25] <joeoshawa> if your trying to quit you forgot the /
[22:26] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, sorry, i was wrong... i tested my idea, but it did not work :( maybe i did something wrong though...
[22:26] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, but it is possible
[22:26] <joeoshawa> sorry its a zte phone
[22:26] <dreamwave> joeoshawa, doesnt the card get mounted when you connect it ?
[22:27] <joeoshawa> yes but i cannot transfer the pics to the card
[22:27] <dreamwave> Benkinooby, yes, in theory .. I'm looking for some kind of ready-to-go-software :)
[22:27] <joeoshawa> some are on the phone
[22:27] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, that was what i expected... that's why i tested it ;)
[22:27] <dreamwave> joeoshawa, you cant transfer the pics from the phone to the card ?
[22:27] <GEEGEEGEE> /msg nickserv identify hitlerWasRight321
[22:27] <dreamwave> GEEGEEGEE, good one
[22:27] <joeoshawa> no there must be a way but i can't find it
[22:28] <joeoshawa> GEEGEEGEE, i would do that in the freenode tab before joining so that doesn't happen
[22:28] <dreamwave> why dont you ask in #android.. seems like its a phone problem
[22:28] <joeoshawa> change your password
[22:29] <joeoshawa> thanks i will
[22:29] <dreamwave> thats not his real pass :D
[22:30] <joeoshawa> no such channel
[22:31] <^Mike> I created a directory in /var/run to hold some sockets and pidfiles for several daemons. After rebooting, the directory is gone - why?
[22:32] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, i just asked in #debian (they don't appreciate ubunutu guys to missuse their channel) and what you're looking for is called "policy routing"
[22:32] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, maybe you can go on with that key word
[22:32] <slikts_> why is oracle making it so difficult to use java?
[22:34] <Boohbah> ^Mike: /var/run is mounted as a tmpfs and is cleared on reboot
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> slikts  why don't you ask them instead of the ubuntu channel?
[22:36] <slikts_> why aren't there packages that download sun java at install time?
[22:36] <Boohbah> slikts_: i thought the idea was to make java easier to use with oracle rdbms and their app servers
[22:36] <Sach> Using Ubuntu 11.04. How do I set up autosave in Gimp 2.6.11?
[22:37] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: installing java is also related to debian, don't you think?
[22:37] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: sorry, related to ubuntu
[22:37] <^Mike> Boohbah: Is it created empty, or can I edit a skeleton somewhere?
[22:38] <Boohbah> ^Mike: i don't know
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> slikts_  http://lwn.net/Articles/472466/
[22:38] <Pessimist> !offtopic
[22:39] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: that doesn't answer my questions, though
[22:39] <Zaitzev> Hey folks.. I've installed vsftpd and was wondering how I can add mounted drives (/media/drives) to be shared. anyone?
[22:39] <edoceo> which packages have the files that are generally located in /etc/ldap/schema ?
[22:39] <slikts_> for instance, why can't java be downloaded at install time
[22:39] <edoceo> I need to re-create those files which have been lost
[22:39] <slikts_> like is done for flash
[22:40] <dreamwave> Benkinooby, thanks.. this looks like what I'm looking for
[22:41] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, have not found a nixe out-of-the-box solution jet :(
[22:42] <New0> hi everyone. i forgot the name of the device. all the adpter: screen, mouse, keyboroard, and a network cable connecting to it. and it's use an RDP kind of connection to connect a VM on the server. what the device's name?
[22:43] <Hebram> dreamweave: It is also known as a "split-tunnel".  You might include that in your searches.
[22:44] <dreamwave> thank you too
[22:44] <samurai> does anyone have a link to a procedure to get adium themes working with Empathy 3.4.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:45] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, split tunnel seems to be the better search term for your case
[22:46] <Sach> Using Ubuntu 11.04. How do I set up autosave in Gimp 2.6.11?
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> samurai  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:47] <dreamwave> that was intended for you, Sach
[22:47] <samurai> thanks MonkeyDust definitely give it a try
[22:47] <dreamwave> oh.. no it wasnt
[22:47] <dreamwave> sorry bout that
[22:48] <Sach> dreamwave, what was?
[22:48] <omwubnt> can anyone help me with where I could find a setting to specify how long it takes before my lcd dims to save battery life? I just got a new laptop and after only ~10 seconds of idle time the screen dims to nearly dark to save on battery. This means that if I want to read more than a sentance or two I need to keep moving the mouse just to ensure the screen doesn't go dark
[22:48] <dreamwave> Sach: http://www.gimptalk.com/index.php?/topic/43637-does-gimp-have-an-auto-save-option/
[22:49] <dreamwave> omwubnt, that depends on your graphics environment
[22:49] <dreamwave> kde/gnome or some other stuff..
[22:49] <dreamwave> or are you talking about the terminal
[22:50] <omwubnt> dreamweave: its the latest ubuntu 11.10 running unity
[22:50] <omwubnt> dreamwave*  sorry
[22:51] <dreamwave> omwubnt,  try the main button -> system settings -> screen
[22:52] <dreamwave> there it says "dim screen to save power"
[22:52] <Thete> You guys know by chance what day 12.04 final will be out next week?
[22:53] <wylde> Thete: 26th
[22:53] <Thete> Is it easy to update from beta 2 to final without reinstall?
[22:53] <DJones> !final | Thete
[22:54] <Thete> oh, sweet
[22:54] <dreamwave> and ... where can I see whats new in 12.04 ?
[22:54] <omwubnt> dreamwave: ah yes, not sure how i missed that. do you know if there is anywhere to adjust the time? it would be nice to have the feature, just 10seconds is a littel quick
[22:54] <dreamwave> omwubnt, dont know .. Im sorry
[22:54] <DrManhattan> I have to say I'm quite impressed with 12.04 so far
[22:55] <omwubnt> dreamwave, ok, thanks for the help
[22:55] <DrManhattan> dreamwave, if you try it out make sure to use the daily build version not the official beta if you have raid
[22:55] <dreamwave> i dont
[22:55] <dreamwave> how do I upgrade from 11.10 to the latest ?
[22:56] <DrManhattan> raid is a disaster on the official beta of 12.04 in every single version I could find, but raid worked fantastic with the daily build, it even picked up and installed on an nvraid hardware raid0
[22:56] <dreamwave> nah .. I'm using it on an old notebook
[22:56] <Logan_> DrManhattan, dreamwave: 12.04 discussion/support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <dreamwave> k, I'll go ask
[22:57] <booi> how do you make the menu bar appear all the time instead of just hovering over in Unity?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> dreamwave  try do-release-upgrade
[23:00] <dreamwave> update-manager -d (as root)
[23:00] <dreamwave> :)
[23:00] <optikx> ubuntu rules!
[23:01] <yjacket> I just installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 on a pc , and ifconfig isn't showing any ethernet hardware devices... there is a cable plugged into it and it lights up, maybe a driver issue?
[23:01] <yjacket> **the computer has an ethernet port, but Ubuntu Server 11.10 doesn't seem to see it
[23:03] <troubled> yjacket: i'd probably see if ifconfig -a shows anything (implying it isn't active/configured), or if nothing there, maybe dmesg and syslog
[23:03] <yjacket> thanks troubled, let me try those
[23:03] <troubled> yjacket: no promises though. the fact that it isn't configured doesn't sound promising :)
[23:04] <optikx> how many drivers does ubuntu have for ethernet cards
[23:04] <optikx> built in
[23:05] <yjacket> troubled: I see it with the -a command
[23:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:06] <angs> suicide?
[23:06] <troubled> yjacket: well, if thats the case it sounds like its working fine, just not configured fully
[23:06] <optikx> epsilon
[23:07] <troubled> yjacket: unfortunately, I only know debian on server, which puts stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, so I can't say with certanty that ubuntu server uses the same file
[23:08] <ssta> it does
[23:08] <troubled> ssta: thanks, good to know
[23:08] <MilitoD> ciao a tutti
[23:08] <optikx> do you guys give ubuntu linux tutorials like quick references im new to linux
[23:08] <MilitoD> !list
[23:09] <troubled> yjacket: in that case, maybe "man interfaces" will help you
[23:09] <ssta> Ubuntu Desktop does too...but most people bypas that with the network applet thingy
[23:09] <optikx> whats the manpages command? how do i use it?
[23:09] <ssta> optikx: man <command>
[23:09] <yjacket> troubled: ok, ill try that,
[23:10] <ssta> optikx: manpages are most useful for reference.  Not reallhy for leaning the command to start with...at least until you're experienced at reading them
[23:10] <Hebram> optikx:  I wonder if your interface is up.  Try sudo ifconfig eth0 up.
[23:10] <troubled> ssta: ya true. personally i dont like that network app thingy. makes me feel lost when trying to tweak and diagnose things :)
[23:10] <optikx> hebram: Im have wifi internet its working fine
[23:11] <ssta> troubled: that's the eternal tradeoff between power and ease.  To make stuff easy, it is necessary to simplify and reduce power (usually)
[23:11] <Hebram> Im sorry.  I meant yjacket. 0-)
[23:11] <optikx> :)
[23:12] <troubled> ssta: no doubt :) nothing wrong with having things easy for the home users, but I do have days where I miss the "old way" of some things
[23:13] <yjacket> troubled: there are no entries for eth0, I guess I should probably add it to there :P
[23:13] <ssta> troubled: mostly the old way is still there behind the scenes
[23:13] <Hebram> yjacket:  What entries do you have?
[23:14] <yjacket> Hebram: just loopback "lo"
[23:14] <yjacket> Hebram let me list all of them, theres only like two
[23:14] <troubled> yjacket: hmm, did you not get asked network questions during install?
[23:15] <yjacket> troubled: I wasn't connected at the time when I was installing it... :/ I just got the chance to hook it up now
[23:16] <yjacket> "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" are all I see, I suppose I could try reinstalling?
[23:16] <troubled> yjacket: ahh. either way, simple enough to fix that. google should have hundreds of examples of the interface file. probably a good time to commit it to memory yourself though :)
[23:17] <yjacket> yep, thanks for identifying the problem troubled!
[23:18] <troubled> yjacket: no worries. good luck o/
[23:19] <agoodm> With the i915 is it possible to assign more video ram than the default 256M?
[23:20] <troubled> agoodm: just a guess, but you try looking in the bios?
[23:20] <agoodm> yes there isnt an option
[23:20] <agoodm> in windows its dynamically assigned afaik
[23:24] <robert0> brazilians here?
[23:26] <nursedad> would it be feasible to duel boot with win 7. using only a minimal amount of disk space for the ubuntu install and swap partitions then use the NTFS configuration tool to use the windows documents, pictures, video folders as the ubuntu stotage folders?
[23:32] <nursedad> would it be feasible to duel boot with win 7. using only a minimal amount of disk space for the ubuntu install and swap partitions then use the NTFS configuration tool to use the windows documents, pictures, video folders as the ubuntu stotage folders?
[23:34] <jrib> nursedad: sure, you could keep documents and media on your windows partition
[23:37] <nursedad> jrib are there any negatives to doing it this  way
[23:37] <jrib> nursedad: well there's some initial setup on your part (you'll want to setup some symlinks), but I can't think of any negative...
[23:37] <Solid07> be careful if you ever decide to reformat your windows partition.
[23:38] <jrib> nursedad: just make sure you use it only for documents and media.  You do NOT want to use it for your entire home
[23:38] <Solid07> i usually store all my doc's and media files on a separate hard-drive
[23:38] <Solid07> and have separate partitions for OS's
[23:39] <nursedad> jrib ah there it is you saying dont use it as home made me realize why it shouldnt do that
[23:41] <Busy> Hi, doing a clean install of 11.10 keeps failing on me using the live CD. It failed to a desktop environment and I'm poking around in /var/log/installer looking for clues. Any advice?
[23:41] <Busy> from debug - /root/.pangorc permission denied
[23:41] <nursedad> jrib so how big do you think I should make the /home partition?
[23:42] <Busy> also unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[23:44] <PSYDUCK> how do i install ubuntu?
[23:44] <jrib> !install | PSYDUCK
[23:44] <PSYDUCK> ok
[23:44] <jrib> nursedad: I imagine you could make it very small...
[23:46] <nursedad> jrib one more question. if i install the 12.4 beta can I update it as usual?
[23:46] <jrib> nursedad: yes, you can update as usual and end up with the final release when it is released
[23:47] <nursedad> jrib thank you for the help
[23:47] <jrib> nursedad: I think a gig is probably enough if you're keeping all the docs and media elsewhere
[23:48] <nursedad> jrib ok tks again
[23:48] <Busy> Is there anywhere other than /var/log/installer I should be looking for reasons the install failed?
[23:48] <jrib> Busy: did you checksum your install cd?
[23:48] <Busy> yes, it was fine
[23:49] <Busy> Also I experienced  the same problem trying to install XBMC on this box. It uses the same ubuntu installer
[23:49] <jrib> Busy: you could try the alternate install
[23:50] <Busy> Would that be the 11.10 version of ubuntu-12.04-beta2-alternate-i386.iso  ?
[23:51] <smrtz> hey, anyone have any expereince with luks?  I'm trying to follow this: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43665 and I could use some help, I'm on backtrack, but noones active on there channel...
[23:52] <bazhang> smrtz, be patient , thats where backtrack is supported
[23:53] <smrtz> bazhang: I've waited a about 6 min, but ok.
[23:53] <nursedad> smrtz why duel boot with backtrack im just wondering
[23:53] <smrtz> bazhang: it's just weird, comeing from a channel like this, were everyones talking, to that, it's a change.
[23:54] <smrtz> nursedad: actually, I normally run arch linux, but needed a debian base for school, so I figured I'd try backtrack because it can do everything ubuntu can, but comes with more hacking programs, and those might be fun to mess with when I'm in class...
[23:54] <Busy> ok, I found the right link for the alternate installer. I'll try that.
[23:54] <dax> hi
[23:55] <nursedad> lol
[23:55] <Davide> !list
[23:56] <glenford> where does apt-get source download to?
[23:56] <smrtz> nursedad: yeah, ubuntu's great for new users and pros, but I feel like the extra tools could be fun.
[23:56] <lucid> Does ubuntu have official themes?
[23:57] <dax> glenford: the current directory
[23:57] <glenford> dax: thanks
[23:58] <lucid> i am here for conferm that ubuntu have official site for themes?because i dont use third party themes
[23:59] <yakster> can somone please help me with a command syntax? I need to recursivly search and delete .AppleDouble from a network NAS. Every folder has this .AppleDouble in it… I need it recursivly gone..