Unit193 | 12.04 will be out later this month. | 00:03 |
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tbrown2012 | Unit193: I was waiting on someone to reply what is everyone on #ubuntu chat room | 00:05 |
Unit193 | I can't quite parse that... It's a support channel, and Ubuntu is released at the same time. | 00:06 |
tbrown2012 | I have a question I have a little problem I cant open terminal command line I run the emalator or something and it says that there is no applciation selected and I dont know what to do after that please help lol | 00:09 |
dougb_freebsd | Hey gang, I'm having a problem with a newly installed 11.10 | 00:46 |
dougb_freebsd | Trying to run the updates I'm getting a lot of errors about "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources" | 00:47 |
dougb_freebsd | when I deselect those updates from the Update Manager, I still get the error | 00:47 |
dougb_freebsd | Any suggestions? | 00:49 |
Unit193 | Seems the keyring is a bit messed up. | 00:49 |
dougb_freebsd | yeah, last night I got a ton of errors with bad signatures on the update files | 00:49 |
Unit193 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/116050/update-problems-due-to-installation-of-packages-from-not-authenticated-sources Look like that? | 00:50 |
dougb_freebsd | today it's better, but all the updates in the "Other updates" category are still showing in the not authenticated category | 00:50 |
dougb_freebsd | Unit193, yes, like that | 00:53 |
dougb_freebsd | W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 00:54 |
dougb_freebsd | so any ideas? | 00:57 |
Unit193 | That link had a fix too, did that not help? | 00:58 |
dougb_freebsd | it's not a matter of a missing key | 00:58 |
dougb_freebsd | the key is there, but the signature for the file is bad | 00:59 |
Unit193 | No, but there was also sudo apt-get update from today. | 00:59 |
dougb_freebsd | right, I did that | 00:59 |
dougb_freebsd | that's where I got the error message that I pasted | 00:59 |
dougb_freebsd | But the bigger problem is that when I deselect the updates that fall under the bad signature, I still get the error about installation of packages from untrusted sources | 01:01 |
Unit193 | Try sudo apt-get clean; sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.old; sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update | 01:04 |
dougb_freebsd | ok, that's running .. downloading files | 01:07 |
dougb_freebsd | Unit193, that seems to have worked, thanks! | 01:14 |
dougb_freebsd | at least, it got past the error about updates not being authenticated | 01:15 |
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Unit193 | dougb_freebsd: Great! | 01:48 |
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dougb_freebsd | yeah, I think that solved it, still downloading stuff | 01:53 |
dougb_freebsd | (slow link here) | 01:53 |
dougb_freebsd | woo hoo! reboot time .... thanks again Unit193 | 02:03 |
Unit193 | Yeppers! | 02:03 |
rhin0 | can't figure out how to change desktop background on xubuntu 10.04 - plain "set image as desktop background" (right click) doesn't work - anyone? | 02:04 |
Unit193 | Right click desktop > Desktop Settings | 02:07 |
rhin0 | where are the images though | 02:08 |
rhin0 | I want images off the web | 02:08 |
rhin0 | right click on image doesn't work | 02:08 |
rhin0 | as in ubuntu | 02:08 |
Unit193 | Save one, and browse to it using that dialog. | 02:08 |
rhin0 | yus! | 02:09 |
rhin0 | didn't see the big + was browse for file | 02:09 |
rhin0 | ty ty ty | 02:09 |
rhin0 | had xubuntu years never been able to do that | 02:10 |
rhin0 | just never figured | 02:10 |
rhin0 | some things are low priority | 02:11 |
Unit193 | I seem to press buttons until I find something cool, like a monkey. | 02:12 |
rhin0 | i have 0 problems with xubuntu | 02:14 |
rhin0 | ZERO | 02:14 |
rhin0 | stopped using ubuntu | 02:15 |
Vermicelli | I'm considering putting /boot (along with swap) on a flush-fitting SD card in my netbook, since the SSD is so slow. What would be a recommended size for a boot partition (or would there be any reason to discourage me from doing this)? | 02:17 |
GridCube | rhin0, you can also set as wallpaper from thunar | 02:18 |
GridCube | or from ristretto | 02:18 |
rhin0 | ok thanks gridcube | 02:18 |
GridCube | you can add new backgrounds to ~/.local/share/xfce4/backdrops and they will appear at the contextual menu from the desktop configurations | 02:19 |
rhin0 | you were the person who helped me fix the caps lock indicator on xubuntu 11.04 I remember gridcube | 02:19 |
rhin0 | get one | 02:19 |
GridCube | :D that works now? | 02:19 |
GridCube | i made it a default addon on 12.04 | 02:20 |
rhin0 | was months ago - I stopped using xubuntu 11.04 though because it had problems | 02:20 |
rhin0 | you control things? | 02:20 |
GridCube | nope i just asked for it | 02:20 |
GridCube | :P | 02:20 |
rhin0 | I remember you saying it should have been default - you were posting on ubuntu forums | 02:20 |
GridCube | knome controls things | 02:20 |
GridCube | :) | 02:20 |
rhin0 | what do you use | 02:21 |
rhin0 | gridcube | 02:21 |
GridCube | xubuntu 11.10 for now | 02:21 |
GridCube | will switch to 12.04 on my netbook this week to test live installs, i havent had the time yet | 02:21 |
GridCube | will switch to 12.04 later next month or the next if i feel like it, 11.10 is working pretty well | 02:22 |
GridCube | in my main computer | 02:22 |
rhin0 | have you thought of lubuntu | 02:22 |
GridCube | i've tried it, not my cup of tea | 02:22 |
GridCube | rhin0, can we continue this on offtopic? this is not help support | 02:23 |
GridCube | !ot | 02:23 |
ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 02:23 |
rhin0 | ok | 02:23 |
Vermicelli | Is 100 MB comfortable for /boot? Or too small? | 02:24 |
GridCube | far too much | 02:24 |
Vermicelli | What's more reasonable? | 02:24 |
Vermicelli | Can't find much info. | 02:25 |
GridCube | let me check for some manual | 02:26 |
Vermicelli | #ubuntu is telling me 200-500MB. | 02:26 |
bazhang | ... | 02:27 |
GridCube | The partition mounted on /boot/ contains the operating system kernel (which allows your system to boot Red Hat Enterprise Linux), along with files used during the bootstrap process. For most users, a 250 MB boot partition is sufficient. | 02:27 |
GridCube | thats pretty much the usual recommendation yes | 02:27 |
Vermicelli | thanks | 02:28 |
GridCube | i just have a dedicated / thats about 20gb and a /home partition | 02:28 |
GridCube | i never find any problems | 02:28 |
GridCube | Vermicelli, http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/s2-diskpartrecommend-x86.html | 02:28 |
GridCube | Vermicelli, what ubuntu does is installs many kernels alongside each other, each times it updates, you can unistall them if things dont break after one | 02:30 |
Vermicelli | On a 512MB ram netbook with a sloooow SSD, woudl it be worth it to give up some swap space on a 1GB SD card to allow for a 250MB /boot? THinking probably not at this point. | 02:30 |
GridCube | Vermicelli, i dont really know how ssd works, but by guess i would say that maybe, if you create the swap partition at the begining of the ssd it should be faster(?) | 02:32 |
Vermicelli | thanks | 02:33 |
GridCube | because... its at the beginig? | 02:33 |
Vermicelli | hah | 02:33 |
GridCube | im just guessing here | 02:33 |
Vermicelli | I'm not sure SSD takes that into any consideration, since there's no disk seek at all. | 02:33 |
GridCube | yes... i guess | 02:35 |
GridCube | im reading that the recommendations is, do not put a swap on ss disks | 02:35 |
GridCube | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives#Swap_Space_on_SSDs | 02:35 |
Vermicelli | Because of the "wear" associated with frequent writes, I think. | 02:35 |
Vermicelli | A reason I'm using ext2 rather than ext3. | 02:36 |
GridCube | mmhm | 02:36 |
GridCube | apparently people also recommends ext4 | 02:36 |
GridCube | it uses this "trim" thing that i dont know what is | 02:37 |
rhin0 | trim is for ssd drives (solid state) | 02:38 |
rhin0 | In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive (SSD) which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally. While TRIM is frequently spelled in capital letters, it is a command name, not an acronym.[1] | 02:39 |
GridCube | rhin0, i pretty much imagined it was something on those lines, yes | 02:40 |
GridCube | Vermicelli, so you might want to use ext4 on that ssd | 02:40 |
Vermicelli | Thanks. I think this is what I need to do. http://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/howtoconfigureext4toenabletrimforssdsonubuntu | 02:40 |
GridCube | i would guess that you do yes :) | 02:41 |
GridCube | then... yes, put the swap on the sdcard | 02:42 |
GridCube | keep in mind that ubuntu NEEDS a swap partition anyway, or it wont even install | 02:42 |
GridCube | even if you have 16gb of ram :P | 02:43 |
Vermicelli | Yeah, was going to do swap on the card all along. I think on so small a card though, I can't afford space for /boot. | 02:45 |
Vermicelli | Hah- my SSD: http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=SSDPAMM0008G1 | 02:45 |
GridCube | :) good | 02:45 |
GridCube | lol | 02:46 |
GridCube | XD | 02:46 |
GridCube | thats pretty low | 02:46 |
Vermicelli | Well thanks for the advice. I'm off. | 02:47 |
GridCube | bye | 02:48 |
oldmanstan | hey all, using xubuntu 12.04, mp3s played fine when i first installed, now there's a missing plugin, any thoughts? known issue? | 03:46 |
holstein | oldmanstan: i bet it wasnt an mp3 | 03:47 |
holstein | theres a meta package called ubuntu-restricted-extras | 03:47 |
holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 | 03:48 |
holstein | also, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support | 03:48 |
oldmanstan | hmm, i just checked and i guess it's possible it was an ogg file (there are quite a few), but the vast majority of my collection is mp3, you sure the mp3 codecs aren't installed by default? | 03:48 |
holstein | oldmanstan: used to be a thing in the installer... for installing the fluendo codec | 03:49 |
holstein | oldmanstan: you can open the pacakge manager of your choice, and search mp3 | 03:49 |
oldmanstan | ah, fluendo, lovely | 03:50 |
oldmanstan | yeah, i do remember it being in the installer at one point or another | 03:50 |
oldmanstan | maybe because i used the alternate iso? weird, thanks though! | 03:51 |
holstein | oldmanstan: yes.. not fluendo prompt on the alternate ISO AFAIK | 03:51 |
oldmanstan | ahh ok, that's what i get for being old-fashioned, hehe | 03:52 |
holstein | oldmanstan: just install one | 03:53 |
holstein | install that one if you like.. you'll find it from search fluendo, and/or mp3 | 03:53 |
oldmanstan | yep, already got it | 03:54 |
oldmanstan | all is working now :) | 03:54 |
holstein | enjoy! | 03:56 |
oldmanstan | thanks again | 03:56 |
maoranma | I'm confused, the blog for Xubuntu 12.04 says that it uses pavucontrol over xfce-mixer. Does that mean there's no alsa sound drivers on Xubuntu 12.04? | 04:57 |
baizon | maoranma: there is just von xfce mixer | 05:02 |
baizon | von = no | 05:05 |
baizon | alsa sound drivers stays :) | 05:05 |
maoranma | Hmm, having issues getting sounds out of an alsa using application for some reason | 05:05 |
maoranma | Strange, I ran alsa-mixer, muted and unmuted, and now I have sound in mednafen | 05:22 |
baizon | i had to do the same when i switch from speakers to hdmi for example | 05:24 |
baizon | not sure if still got it, dont have the oportunity to test it | 05:29 |
Orange_ | hello | 07:30 |
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CellTech | Odd. It didn't send anything I typed | 08:44 |
CellTech | I just did the sudo apt-get upgrade and update. Should I do the autoclean one now? | 08:44 |
bigbrovar | Hi guys, I was wondering if there was a way to set thunar to automount external storage devices during start. Found out I had to remove and add the external hdd before it is mounted | 08:49 |
bigbrovar | It's an ntfs external drive and I don't want to have to add it to fstab cus its not always attached to the system | 08:50 |
bigbrovar | Just wondering if automounting of drives could happen during startup | 08:51 |
bigbrovar | Like the system mounts added drives when starting up | 08:51 |
well_laid_lawn | you might be able to set a udev rule for that | 08:54 |
bigbrovar | Yeah my thinking too.. Might have to find the command that mounts when a drive is connected | 09:01 |
bigbrovar | Will look into it thanks | 09:01 |
JukeUK | Hi all - I'm a new user of Xubuntu and linux tbh. Just installed the 32bit desktop version on a 2 GHz Core 2 laptop. Then saw that Xubuntu recommends using the 64-bit for Core 2 processors. Are there any advantages to switching? | 10:34 |
Belserusk | I am thinking of jumping to Xubuntu 12.04 from Ubuntu 10.04 next week. Is it a good move? | 10:39 |
knome | Belserusk, if you can do a fresh install, that's always better, but upgrading should work too | 10:40 |
bigbrovar | JukeUk - not much really, I personally prefer 32 bit cus I am a general computer user and although 64 bit support has improved considerably on Linux there are still some odd cases where support is lacking | 10:44 |
Belserusk | knome, Definitely. Although I have Xubuntu 11.10 on my 2nd PC and that was upgraded over the internet from 11.04 so upgrading over the internet to 12.04 should be fine? | 10:44 |
knome | Belserusk, yup | 10:44 |
JukeUK | bigbrovar, ty | 10:45 |
bigbrovar | The slight difference in performance u get with 64bit is rarely significant when doing everyday computing. The biggest advantage is ability to use a 4gb+ ram which 32 bit os can't see. (they see only 3.5gb) but using a pae kernel fixes that | 10:46 |
JukeUK | that wouldn't really affect me as the laptop can only take a max of 4GB and for the sake of 1/2 gig it's not worth the aggro. | 10:47 |
Belserusk | knome, thanks. | 10:48 |
Belserusk | knome, Is Xubuntu supported by Cannonical? | 10:48 |
knome | Belserusk, the xubuntu team gets the infrastructure to use from canonical, but not much otherwise | 10:49 |
xubuntu243 | Hi | 11:00 |
Belserusk | Will Xubuntu be prone to more bugs than Ubuntu or will bugs fixed be fixed equally fast? | 11:07 |
knome | Belserusk, the bugs that are not xubuntu-specific are the same because naturally they land on all derivatives, xubuntu-specific bugs (mostly xfce) will depend on how trivial they are and if the xfce team fixes them quickly | 11:08 |
Belserusk | knome, Which version of Xubuntu are you on? Your overall rating for Xubuntu out or 10? | 11:10 |
knome | i'm on 12.04 | 11:11 |
knome | i'll let others rate how we are ;) | 11:11 |
* knome is the project leader | 11:11 | |
Belserusk | knome, Fair enough. ^_^ | 11:13 |
Belserusk | Bye knome | 11:13 |
knome | bye, and have fun | 11:14 |
z4k4ri4 | Hi, just installed xubuntu 12.04 (daily live), works great! | 11:14 |
knome | z4k4ri4, good to hear | 11:15 |
z4k4ri4 | Is there anyway to make short cut to show window list? | 11:15 |
z4k4ri4 | Kinda window menu in panel | 11:16 |
knome | z4k4ri4, not sure, but you can get that open by middle-clicking mouse on the desktop | 11:16 |
z4k4ri4 | Nah, It's on laptop | 11:16 |
knome | z4k4ri4, alt+tab works for me, but you probably knew it exists already | 11:17 |
z4k4ri4 | I found it: xfdesktop --windowlist | 11:18 |
z4k4ri4 | thanks anyway | 11:18 |
xubuntu528 | hey, can anyone tell me if the USB problem ( not detecting ) was solved in xubuntu 11 ? | 11:21 |
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xubuntu165 | Hello | 12:30 |
xubuntu165 | I just installed Xubuntu | 12:31 |
xubuntu165 | and I have added 2 additional keyboard layouts - russian and azerbaijani | 12:31 |
xubuntu165 | but I can't change the layout unless I go to settings->keyboard input method | 12:33 |
xubuntu165 | isn't there any shortcut? | 12:33 |
xubuntu165 | for example combination like Alt+Shift | 12:34 |
ThePendulum | Greetings | 13:05 |
baizon | welcome | 13:06 |
ThePendulum | What's a nice little DVD ripping tool? There's an OS on it, not media | 13:07 |
ThePendulum | I figured I could simply copy the files from the disk, lol | 13:11 |
JukeUK | <----- linux newbie. Are there any maintenance routines I should be doing with Xubuntu or am I being too MS mindset? | 13:39 |
Pici | JukeUK: beyond making sure that you keep up-to-date with updates/upgrades, nothing really. | 13:43 |
Pici | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade | 13:43 |
Pici | (which *doesn't* upgrade you to a new release, see the manpage or /msg upbottu dist-upgrade for more info) | 13:43 |
JukeUK | Pici, thanks :) | 13:49 |
loppy | babble? | 15:10 |
loppy | anyone? | 15:10 |
loppy | grrrr! | 15:11 |
knome | loppy, can we help you with a support question? | 15:11 |
loppy | yes. | 15:12 |
loppy | unban me from the offtopic! | 15:13 |
knome | you are free to discuss that in -ops, it's offtopic here | 15:14 |
loppy | it is?????? | 15:14 |
loppy | hi | 15:19 |
loppy | hi baizon! | 15:23 |
mneptok | loppy: there is no need to greet every single nick that /joins | 15:26 |
baizon | hi loppy | 15:30 |
Wizard | yo | 16:41 |
Wizard | seems more and more users here :] | 16:41 |
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xubuntu946 | hello | 17:24 |
Wizard | hi xubuntu946 | 17:27 |
xubuntu946 | hey Wizard | 17:27 |
xubuntu946 | I got a apt-get install question if you don't mind.. | 17:28 |
xubuntu946 | I am trying to apt-get install irssi but I get a bunch of stuff that says E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). | 17:32 |
xubuntu946 | I never had this when I was using Ubuntu a few months back. | 17:33 |
Unit193 | Try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f; sudo apt-get install irssi | 17:33 |
xubuntu946 | ok, i'll try it now | 17:35 |
Wizard | this should help | 17:39 |
Wizard | actually, apt-get install -f alone should | 17:40 |
Wizard | sorry for the delay ;] | 17:40 |
Unit193 | Well, outdated cache can be an issue as well. | 17:41 |
xubuntu946 | looks like it worked. Thank you Unit193 and Wizard | 17:41 |
Unit193 | Great! | 17:41 |
xubuntu946 | new install | 17:41 |
Wizard | hmm | 17:49 |
Wizard | fresh install had such issue? | 17:49 |
xubuntu946 | yep just got it going | 17:49 |
Wizard | that's strange | 17:49 |
Wizard | 11.10? | 17:49 |
orangeninja | ok I am xubuntu946, hey Unit193 !! | 17:50 |
orangeninja | let me see | 17:50 |
Unit193 | Howdy. | 17:51 |
orangeninja | yep Wizard | 17:53 |
orangeninja | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 17:53 |
orangeninja | Description:Ubuntu 11.10 | 17:53 |
Wizard | hmm | 17:55 |
Wizard | not good, I want to install xubuntu 11.10 tommorow on my work notebook | 17:56 |
Unit193 | Not an issue, all you have to do is apt-get update first, or else there are broken depends. | 18:02 |
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craigbass1976 | When I log into a Unity / ubuntu session, I'm all set. When I log into xfce, my laptop won't go to sleep after shutting the lid. Screen goes dark, but everything is still running. What'd I miss? | 18:12 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: settings manager > power manager | 18:13 |
GridCube | welp, if i dont understand things wrong, unity pretty much flops things up | 18:13 |
pleia2 | review settings in there to make it do what you want | 18:13 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, what's the command? I'm trying it from the menu, but there's a flicker of a window and nothing. No idea what the error might be without a terminal | 18:19 |
pleia2 | let's see... | 18:20 |
pleia2 | xfce4-power-manager | 18:20 |
pleia2 | no | 18:20 |
pleia2 | xfce4-power-manager-settings | 18:20 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, it wasn't running. It's still not running | 18:21 |
pleia2 | sorry, xfce4-power-manager-settings is the command you run to launch the settings manager | 18:22 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, oh, forget it. Now It's running. but I've seen this screen before | 18:22 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, hey, I got it working. THe power manager doesn't seem to be starting at boot though | 18:30 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: under "session and startup" in the settings is it checked? | 18:31 |
pleia2 | in the "application autostart" tab | 18:32 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, actually it is. Hrmmmm | 18:41 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: hm, not sure, might check in /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/syslog to see if there are any notices about it that indicate why it's not starting | 18:42 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: whatversion of xubuntu are you using? | 18:42 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, there aren't two managers that will be fighting? I'm on 12.04 | 18:43 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: ah, is the gnome power manager running? | 18:43 |
pleia2 | I'd submit a bug here: https://launchpad.net/xfce4-power-manager (include details from here, including that it is set to start up in settings) | 18:44 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, I don't see it. | 18:45 |
pleia2 | I haven't seen that problem here, but if you submit a bug the devs can look into it and maybe get it fixed for you by release time | 18:46 |
grifo74 | hello how i install intel graphics card | 18:54 |
grifo74 | and opengl | 18:55 |
Wizard | grifo74, works for me by default on asus eeepc and some "enterprise" asus with optimus (intel foreced in bios) | 18:58 |
Sysi | about all intel cards should work by default, opengl too | 18:59 |
genii-around | Some of the i810 are problemmatic, need composite enabled in xorg.conf | 19:00 |
grifo74 | i try to run stunt rally on my son pc and dont work | 19:00 |
grifo74 | how i enable | 19:00 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, call me numb, but I don't see where to submit a bug... | 19:01 |
grifo74 | i go install xserver-xorg-video-intel | 19:02 |
grifo74 | and restar my pc i back in minutes | 19:03 |
justanick | Hello, why does the xfce4-power-manager not see the ACPI powerbutton? | 19:05 |
Wizard | not see? | 19:07 |
Unit193 | You should be able to configure that in keyboard shortcuts to power off. | 19:08 |
justanick | The part for "What should happens if the power button is pressed is missing | 19:08 |
Wizard | is acpid running/installed? | 19:08 |
justanick | Also the XFCE session does not react on it. The shell without a running XFCE does and shutdown the system | 19:09 |
justanick | acpid is installed | 19:09 |
justanick | And acpi_listen reacts on a powerbutton press | 19:10 |
Wizard | strange | 19:10 |
justanick | Xfce is runnig without lightdm. But that should not be the problem, or | 19:11 |
justanick | ? | 19:11 |
Wizard | no, it shouldn't | 19:11 |
justanick | The power button is also missing in the xfce4-power-manager.xml | 19:13 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: run this command: ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager | 19:14 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, that's the only way? Ok, I don't feel so dumb then for not seeign a link | 19:16 |
pleia2 | craigbass1976: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs has information about what the tool does | 19:18 |
pleia2 | it does some basic stuff like collecting information about your system that devs need to duplicate and diagnose the problem, searches the bug tracker to see if it's already been reported | 19:18 |
justanick | Bye. | 19:26 |
craigbass1976 | pleia2, well, we'll see what happens. I could probably write a script for now that would start it up, right? | 19:28 |
cousteau | what's the default video player on xubuntu precise? I'm checking what's installed by default | 19:55 |
maoranma | Parole I believe | 19:56 |
cousteau | and so far (apart from some programs I don't like much, such as abiword or leafpad), they look ok | 19:56 |
looonger | is xubuntu xfce still so heavily gnome-dependent? | 19:58 |
cousteau | e.g. Thunderbird, gThumb, XChat, Evince... I would install those even if they weren't by default | 19:58 |
cousteau | I'll probably get rid of Parole (or leave it installed but not use it) and use gnome-mplayer | 19:59 |
cousteau | or VLC for the formats gnome-mplayer doesn't support very well | 20:00 |
cousteau | well, I'll just wait for 12.04 to be released, and then download it, try it and install it | 20:07 |
looonger | i can't wait for xfce 4.10 | 20:07 |
cousteau | for now... where the hell are my repositories? (using 10.10, they removed them before releasing 12.04 and they're not yet in old-releases) | 20:07 |
cousteau | ...oh, they are still there | 20:13 |
holstein | cousteau: you can run one locally for as long as you'd like | 20:14 |
cousteau | holstein, yes, but without repositories you can't install stuff | 20:15 |
cousteau | so I was kinda worried | 20:16 |
holstein | cousteau: you can run your own repositories locally, and install what you like | 20:17 |
cousteau | yeah, well, I'd need to get all repositories first | 20:18 |
cousteau | (and also they must be huge) | 20:18 |
holstein | cousteau: ifi you want to use 10.10 past EOL, you can though... canonnical just aint going to "foot the bill" much longer | 20:20 |
holstein | cousteau: AFAIK, you can use a DVD... apt-on-cd or whatever | 20:20 |
cousteau | well, my idea was to use the old-releases repositories (located on old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/), but maverick isn't there yet | 20:21 |
cousteau | and I thought they had already removed the repos because I got a message that my version wasn't supported anymore | 20:22 |
holstein | ive never used an OS past EOL and expected updates, so im not sure how that will work for you | 20:25 |
Pici | If maverick isn't there yet that means its still on the main mirrors. | 20:27 |
Pici | They don't always move it the day of EOL. | 20:27 |
cousteau | holstein, well, I'm not expecting updates, only be able to install stuff | 20:32 |
holstein | allow me to clarify... ive never used an OS past EOL and expected to "install stuff" from a repository someone else maintains | 20:33 |
cousteau | where "someone else" is "canonical"? or "the PPA of this guy"? | 20:34 |
cousteau | *"this guy who has a PPA" | 20:34 |
holstein | not me basically... i would expect to be on my own | 20:35 |
cousteau | ok | 20:35 |
holstein | i dont see any reason not to upgrade though using xubuntu | 20:35 |
cousteau | Well, I once made a local repository for LibreOffice, because there wasn't a PPA yet and I didn't just want to install all the debs... but it was complicated and unfulfilling | 20:36 |
cousteau | well, having 10.10, I was planning on doing a clean install | 20:36 |
holstein | cousteau: by whatever method you choose, i see no reason to stay back at 10.10 | 20:37 |
cousteau | well, I prefer to just wait for 12.04 to be released, so I kill 2 birds with 1 stone | 20:38 |
cousteau | actually... 3 birds | 20:38 |
cousteau | 3½, since I'd also move from Ubuntu to Xubuntu | 20:38 |
holstein | sure... im just not sure why we are disscussing keeping 10.10 alive | 20:39 |
cousteau | it's just a temporary solution | 20:39 |
cousteau | what the...? ants! | 20:43 |
cousteau | brb, killing ants | 20:43 |
pleia2 | cousteau: try archive.ubuntu.com instead of old-releases | 20:45 |
cousteau | pleia2, yeah, they're still there | 20:53 |
cousteau | it's only that I thought they weren't | 20:53 |
* cousteau uses vacuum cleaner... it's kinda effectice | 20:59 | |
cousteau | AAWRGH!! there was an ant in my sleeve! | 21:00 |
cousteau | AND IT WAS ALIVE!! | 21:00 |
pleia2 | cousteau: can you move the vacuum and ant talk to #xubuntu-offtopic? :) | 21:03 |
cousteau | yeah, the vacuum thing should have gone to another channel, sorry | 21:04 |
xubuntu933 | greeting, anyone available to help? | 22:56 |
xubuntu933 | greeting, anyone available to help? | 22:56 |
Unit193 | !ask | 22:57 |
ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 22:57 |
xubuntu933 | i am trying xubunt 12.04 beta2. install minitube, however, no video, what should I do to get video | 22:58 |
holstein | xubuntu933: i would try another browser... its like a flash issue.. however, flash cannot be officially supported, and 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 | 22:59 |
holstein | its likely a flash issue* | 23:00 |
Unit193 | "Minitube does not require the Flash Player.", but that's about all I know of it. | 23:00 |
holstein | yeah? someone else ws saying it did the other day in another channel.. | 23:01 |
Unit193 | Alright, I don't doubt you. | 23:01 |
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