| duck_ | hi | 02:43 |
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| duck_ | im very happy about lubuntu, i love it its working like a charm there is only one thing: | 02:45 |
| duck_ | the machine is hot | 02:45 |
| duck_ | even if i dont do anything, process at 1%, fan loud, machine hot | 02:46 |
| Unit193 | May be dusty. | 02:46 |
| duck_ | battery is fast empty | 02:47 |
| duck_ | on my windows partition everything is silent and cold | 02:47 |
| duck_ | i found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943476&page=4 | 02:47 |
| Unit193 | 11.10 heated up faster, IIRC. | 02:48 |
| Unit193 | If you wait about a week or so, 12.04 will be out and that's supposed to be better with that. | 02:48 |
| duck_ | im having exactly the same prob as this guy there | 02:48 |
| duck_ | yeah 5 days ? :) | 02:49 |
| duck_ | in ubuntu and xubuntu its cool too | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | Did you follow what htat said to do? | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | That's a bit odd. | 02:49 |
| duck_ | ubuntu and xubuntu using the same kernel + settings? | 02:50 |
| duck_ | as lubuntu? | 02:50 |
| Unit193 | Same kernel, but as it is using a different DE. | 02:50 |
| duck_ | might be also a bios problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272530 | 02:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272530 in Gentoo Linux "64-bit Intrepid automatic permanent reboot loop related to having exactly 4GB of memory" [Undecided,New] | 02:51 |
| duck_ | as in the forum posted it might be a bios bug acpi support | 02:52 |
| duck_ | i dont know about kernel backports ... is this one (3.3) a lack of security? | 02:54 |
| duck_ | is it the kernel for precise? | 02:54 |
| Unit193 | Should be. | 02:54 |
| duck_ | when i do #sensors | 02:54 |
| duck_ | with configurating it before i get only cpu core temp 1 and 2 | 02:55 |
| duck_ | i know my machine has more sensors like acceleration sensors | 02:56 |
| duck_ | is this a hint for the wrong kernel and or bios? | 02:56 |
| duck_ | which kernel version will precise be using? | 02:57 |
| Unit193 | !info linux-image-generic precise | 02:58 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.22.24 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB | 02:58 |
| Unit193 | Could just be that program doesn't search for what you are looking for. | 02:58 |
| duck_ | yeah | 02:58 |
| duck_ | so just to understand, please correct me if im wrong: kernel is same for all u/k/x/lubuntus, only difference is the gui, processor, power, fan controlling is ONLY a kernel-job so on the same machine with different ubuntu distributions should be more or less the same | 03:03 |
| duck_ | ? | 03:03 |
| duck_ | are there jobs running to controll processor out of the kernel? | 03:04 |
| duck_ | will i still get security updates for the kernel when installing an backport? | 03:14 |
| duck_ | is it better to use an older version of lubuntu (like 11.04) or always the newest 12.04? is newer = less bugs? or older = less bugs? | 03:17 |
| duck_ | is it possible to know this? | 03:18 |
| Unit193 | Generally the newer one is more updated, and there may be a bit different. | 03:18 |
| duck_ | ok thank you ( i imagine you all busy typing for the release soon :) | 03:21 |
| Unit193 | Heh, I'm testing out something else and listening to pandora while I do it. | 03:22 |
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| Blutkoete | Hello | 13:42 |
| NQTropic | hi Blutkoete | 13:45 |
| Yorvyk | gilir: Correcting your English | 14:34 |
| Yorvyk | gilir: Don't understand 'Default 32 bits images support more hardware than the Ubuntu image...' | 14:35 |
| gilir | Yorvyk, we use non-PAE, so it's working on more hardware than Ubuntu, which use PAE by default | 14:37 |
| gilir | and thanks for the corrections :) | 14:37 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | in nautilus there is a badge for shutdown network share. Pcmanf of it isn't present | 14:38 |
| Yorvyk | gilir: OK, I'll reword it so it makes more sense. I f that's OK. | 14:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yorvyk; sure, go right ahead ^_^ | 14:40 |
| duck_ | hi | 14:53 |
| duck_ | soon soon soon | 14:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | duck_; soon what? | 14:53 |
| duck_ | :) the relaease | 14:53 |
| duck_ | i have a little question | 14:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Soon you're brave enough to start using 12.04? ;-) | 14:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Shoot | 14:54 |
| duck_ | my machine is hot and loud and consuming lots of power | 14:54 |
| duck_ | :) yes ur right | 14:54 |
| duck_ | i tryed a lot of things | 14:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Which version are you currently running? 11.04? | 14:55 |
| duck_ | . | 14:55 |
| duck_ | 11.10 | 14:55 |
| duck_ | as far as i know now it might be kernel or a bios problem | 14:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | (p.s. it's tried* not tryed (only wanting to help)) | 14:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ah, right 11.10 is the latest stable | 14:55 |
| duck_ | :) thx | 14:55 |
| duck_ | yes thats it | 14:56 |
| duck_ | so before updating my bios i'd like to give this a try: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/10/467 | 14:56 |
| duck_ | its a kernel patch | 14:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | The 3.0 kernel had a power bug in it afaik. I don't know if it's fixed in 3.2 (which is the kernel in 12.04 | 14:57 |
| duck_ | yes i heard about that ... the thing is that im quite happy with 11.10, not buggy at all here only this heat is bothering me | 14:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | 12.04 is really stable afaict | 14:58 |
| duck_ | as far as i know there is a fix in precise 3.3 (its emulating a windows to keep cool running with bios bugs) | 14:59 |
| duck_ | ok that sounds nice | 15:00 |
| duck_ | ... to give the mentiond patch ( <--link) a try how can i do? | 15:01 |
| duck_ | do u have a hint for me? | 15:01 |
| * MrChrisDruif doesn't alter kernels | 15:01 | |
| MrChrisDruif | Sorry, can't help you there | 15:01 |
| duck_ | do you know if its possible to use a precise kernel in 11.10 artwork? | 15:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | You don't like the 12.04 artwork? O_O | 15:03 |
| duck_ | ;) | 15:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | But if you're wondering if you can get a precise kernel in a oneiric install, then I think the simple answer is no | 15:05 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | i use ubuntu 10.04 and kernel 3.1.2 | 15:05 |
| sagaci | or just install precise to get the precise kernel you're looking for | 15:05 |
| sagaci | no pun intended | 15:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Maybe JohnDoe_71Rus can help you with installing a different release kernel duck_ ? | 15:06 |
| duck_ | @JohnDoe_71Rus how did you do ? | 15:07 |
| duck_ | in my updates i cant see kernel versions to install | 15:07 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 15:07 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | download then sudo apt-get install *.deb | 15:08 |
| duck_ | super! | 15:09 |
| duck_ | do you know if there is a known limit? eg can i go further then 3.1.2? and do you get security updates for your kernel? | 15:10 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | kernel is the kernel | 15:10 |
| duck_ | :) | 15:10 |
| duck_ | wisdom | 15:11 |
| duck_ | tHAnK yOU VERY mUcH !!!!!! | 15:12 |
| duck_ | i'll give this a try | 15:12 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | if you need security updates from 3.1.2 you install 3.1.2 | 15:12 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | if you need 3.2.1 install 3.2.1 | 15:13 |
| duck_ | ? | 15:13 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | simple | 15:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | duck_; your <Shift> key seems wonky | 15:14 |
| duck_ | ok e.g. security update is an update of the kernel means newer versions have fixes included ... | 15:15 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | yes | 15:16 |
| duck_ | i understand thank you! it's nice to learn and run deep into the shit | 15:16 |
| duck_ | i'll give it a try ... where can i report my fail / success? what is the common way to let the comunity know? to give a bit back what of what they helped me? | 15:18 |
| duck_ | thAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnks! | 15:21 |
| duck_ | i have one more question: is it even possible to downgrade the kernel? if i installed 3.2 go back to 3.0 ?? do you know? | 15:29 |
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| Papa-Smurf | Hello | 16:34 |
| Papa-Smurf | My wireless card is detected as ethernet??? | 16:35 |
| bioterror | papa smurf! | 16:35 |
| bioterror | Papa-Smurf, sometimes that happens | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | how can i solve it? | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | bioterror, yes? | 16:35 |
| bioterror | is that a problem then? | 16:35 |
| bioterror | it doesnt work? | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | they seems to use the same controler | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | no | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | it does not work | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | :( | 16:35 |
| Papa-Smurf | they wired card works fine but the system does not recognize any wireless card | 16:36 |
| bioterror | can you pastebin: lspci |grep ethernet | 16:36 |
| bioterror | sorry | 16:36 |
| bioterror | |grep Ethernet | 16:36 |
| Papa-Smurf | and one supposes to be wireless | 16:36 |
| bioterror | with the capital E | 16:37 |
| Papa-Smurf | sure | 16:37 |
| Papa-Smurf | http://pastebin.com/4SahKMjk | 16:37 |
| bioterror | that's kinda weird as it's shown twice the same | 16:39 |
| Papa-Smurf | yes :( | 16:39 |
| Papa-Smurf | both are PCI cards | 16:39 |
| Papa-Smurf | the wireless card has a led on | 16:40 |
| Papa-Smurf | is it possible that the wireless card has not been recognized at all? | 16:41 |
| bioterror | possible | 16:41 |
| bioterror | you know the card? | 16:41 |
| bioterror | chipset? | 16:41 |
| Papa-Smurf | no idea | 16:41 |
| Papa-Smurf | let me show you a lspci -v | 16:43 |
| Papa-Smurf | http://pastebin.com/nz5964ey | 16:44 |
| bioterror | your pastebin can be found from google :D | 16:45 |
| bioterror | ZyXEL FN312 is a ethernet card | 16:47 |
| bioterror | seems like they are both recognized as a ethernet cards? | 16:48 |
| Papa-Smurf | yes | 16:50 |
| Papa-Smurf | but it isn't | 16:50 |
| Papa-Smurf | well | 16:51 |
| Papa-Smurf | maybe ZyXEL is the ethernet | 16:51 |
| Papa-Smurf | and Realtek the wifi | 16:51 |
| bioterror | you tell us | 16:51 |
| bioterror | open case and look ;) | 16:51 |
| bioterror | and write up the chipsets | 16:51 |
| bioterror | it helps a lot | 16:51 |
| Papa-Smurf | yes bioterror it is the only thing i can do :) | 16:54 |
| Papa-Smurf | well see you back | 16:54 |
| Blutkoete | Is there a reason that obconf isn't included in Lubuntu 12.04 Beta? Something I should know like "makes your Netbook explode" or "has been replaced by something better"? I want to change the number of workspaces, just want to make sure obconf doesn't break anything if I install it. | 17:34 |
| bioterror | Blutkoete, reported | 17:36 |
| Blutkoete | Pardon? | 17:36 |
| bioterror | it has been reported | 17:37 |
| bioterror | !bug #967348 | 17:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 967348 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "obconf is in the seed, but not in the ISO" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967348 | 17:37 |
| Blutkoete | Ah, thank you, I see it now. | 17:37 |
| Blutkoete | Google first, ask later. Sorry. | 17:37 |
| bioterror | tap that it affects you too ,) | 17:38 |
| Blutkoete | I'll do that :) | 17:38 |
| bioterror | oh well | 17:38 |
| bioterror | gilir has fixed it already | 17:38 |
| bioterror | wrote on 2012-04-13: #3 | 17:38 |
| bioterror | It seems to be fixed today, it appears now in the manifest : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest and in the installed system of the daily-live ISO. | 17:38 |
| Blutkoete | That's good news | 17:38 |
| Blutkoete | It's great that the Lubuntu team fixes my problems even before I notice them :) | 17:41 |
| Papa-Smurf | hi | 17:48 |
| Papa-Smurf | I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error" when trying ifconfig wlan0 up ¿? does anyone knows a cause? | 17:48 |
| jerli | hi there... | 18:40 |
| ramiroec | hi people | 19:44 |
| ramiroec | just a question | 19:44 |
| ramiroec | where i can get a newer version than Lubuntu_12.04 beta 2? | 19:44 |
| ramiroec | something like current or Relace Candidate | 19:45 |
| ramiroec | any suggestion ;) | 19:47 |
| bioterror | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/ | 19:47 |
| bioterror | for example | 19:47 |
| ramiroec | great! thanks | 19:48 |
| bioterror | those are alternatives then | 19:48 |
| bioterror | text based installers | 19:48 |
| ramiroec | perfect | 19:49 |
| ramiroec | I just want to test, and report bugs | 19:49 |
| bioterror | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/ these are desktop ones | 19:50 |
| ramiroec | lets see, the new lubutu will have: abiword_2.9.2+svn20120213 | 19:51 |
| ramiroec | i think its ok | 19:51 |
| KM0201 | libreoffice ftw! | 20:04 |
| KM0201 | i don't like abiword.. it jacks up the formatting on documents i've made in LO or OO. | 20:05 |
| KM0201 | if the documents are made in abiword, they seem to be ok | 20:06 |
| bioterror | KM0201, mostly I open documents made by ms office ;) | 20:07 |
| bioterror | and even libreoffice has problems with them | 20:07 |
| KM0201 | bioterror: yeah, i agree.. most of the time when I open Office documents though, they usually are pretty good. | 20:07 |
| bioterror | formattings other small things gets ruined | 20:08 |
| KM0201 | ya | 20:10 |
| raphaelle | Hi all, is there a way to set system volume above 100% in lubuntu, as it is possible in Ubuntu ? | 20:38 |
| KM0201 | raphaelle: above 100%? | 20:39 |
| KM0201 | hmm, | 20:39 |
| bioterror | sorry, but lubuntu does not go to the eleven ;) | 20:40 |
| bioterror | but you can open alsamixer (right click the volume icon ,) | 20:40 |
| bioterror | and check if you have pcm and master topped | 20:41 |
| KM0201 | bioterror: i know pulseaudio will let you go to like 150-200%, | 20:43 |
| KM0201 | but i'm not sure how to do that w/ alsa | 20:44 |
| bioterror | hard to understand how something can go 150-200% :D | 20:44 |
| bioterror | but maybe it has a logic somewhere | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | Simple, overclip like crazy!! | 20:44 |
| KM0201 | lol | 20:45 |
| raphaelle | btw it is simple on ubuntu : the sound icon let choose up to 200%, like on VLC player : very handy for poor laptop sound cards ! | 20:48 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, but when you do it in VLC, it's clipped and you can tell. (But no other way to do it) | 20:49 |
| ramiroec | ubuntu have this for volume over 100%: | 20:51 |
| ramiroec | http://voyhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Screenshot-Sound-Preferences.png | 20:51 |
| bioterror | :D | 20:52 |
| raphaelle | thanks ramiroec : this is exactly what I meant, and what I would like to find in lubunut... | 20:52 |
| raphaelle | lubuntu :/ | 20:53 |
| anotherchatzilla | hey all tough situation... i am running an old PPC g5/leopard. i just installed vpc 7, and i tried to boot the newest lubuntu. no dice, but the last lts 10.04 boots. only prob is that after i select install it brings me to a destop with an icon in the upper right to install lubuntu. i guess i'm supposed to click it. only problem is that i can't seem to move the mouse inisde this... | 23:13 |
| anotherchatzilla | ...virtual machine. the keyboard works and i can bring up the run command with contrl f2... is there a run command i can use to kick the lubuntu installer open>? | 23:13 |
| anotherchatzilla | or a way to use the keyboard to move the mouse? | 23:13 |
| anotherchatzilla | all i need to do apparently is use the keyboard to select the desktop icon "install Lubuntu 10.04" and open it...can't move teh mouse | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | You can hit Ctrl+esc and nav the Application Menu. | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | You can also open a terminal and type ubiquity to start the installer, should be anyway. | 23:17 |
| anotherchatzilla | hmm..trying | 23:18 |
| anotherchatzilla | wow looks liek i got the installer open...lets see how this goes | 23:20 |
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