[00:11] hi there, apt-get updating from beta2, spotted this - anything to worry about ? [00:11] Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ufw »... [00:11] WARN: uid is 0 but '/' is owned by 999 [00:12] nb: that's a *liveusb* system, if this matters [00:47] !schedule [00:47] !schedule [00:47] A schedule of Precise Pangolin (12.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [00:47] heh [00:47] I win! [00:47] :) [00:47] edward_, call it! [00:48] edward_, which was first, ME or bazhang [00:48] ? [00:48] pangolin [00:49] * pangolin sends Daekdroom a cookie [00:49] * Daekdroom devours the cookie [00:50] my screen says pangolin ;) [00:50] woohoo [00:50] :/ [00:50] * pangolin sends edward_ a cookie [00:50] fyi I had that open before I asked it [00:50] yes it is the p [00:51] I had read the RC was due yesterday in my timezone ;) [00:51] The RC is a lie., [00:51] I might get a daily as I want something after the kernel freeze === Eledran is now known as Eledran__ === Eledran__ is now known as Eledran [01:28] Yay! cletus is here :) [01:29] I noticed that when I installed Ubuntu 12.04 beta, the tab directory on left hand side of screen does not hide like it used to on the prior version/s, how do I fix this? thanks. [01:29] Yay [01:29] welcome cleatus :) [01:29] !bug | cleatus [01:29] cleatus: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [01:29] :) [01:29] cleatus, file a bug for it [01:29] see above [01:29] Ok I will file bug report. thanks [01:30] I will keep y'all entertained later if I can't get this right, thanks everyone. peace [02:01] so, Im upgrading to oneiric from a recently upgraded to precise, and the upgrade ran into a full stop type issue [02:01] This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package python-minimal due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. [02:01] E: Internal Error, Could not early remove python-minimal [02:02] should... I... care...? In the past, I just through install commands till things put themselves back together, but that wouldn't "help the greater good by reporting this bug" [02:08] o wells, hammering through. ttfn [02:11] ok, Im actually stuck :( I can't deal w/ python-minimal [02:12] ChogyDan: not sure if this will help you, but I just apt-get upgraded from beta2 fresh install, and spotted somw warning about a conflict between python-minimal and pythonX.X-minimal packages [02:12] ChogyDan: update went fine on this side, thou [02:12] yeah, I think Im getting the same issue. It is stopping my upgrade [02:13] ChogyDan: so, I suspect a little error in packaging/deps [02:13] ChogyDan: (that was a couple of hours ago) [02:14] caravel: and... there doesn't seem to be much building... [02:14] ChogyDan: note that from beta2, force wan't required -- just a warning, autosolved I assume [02:14] caravel: I tried to force it, dpkg flat out refused [02:15] ChogyDan: well, it's pretty late all around the western hemisphere now :) A frepo ix before tomorrow would surprise me [02:15] repo* [02:15] repo fix [02:16] I'd have a question too... [02:17] Is the LiveCD supposed to be fully upgradable ? I attempted that and ended it with a working system after a first reboot, then powered off and since then do have the legendary no system found error [02:17] I think Im gona take it to devel-discuss mailing list [02:17] how would you upgrade the livecd? [02:17] note, I did *not* attempt a dist-upgrade, just accepted all updates from a standard apt-get upgrade [02:18] ChogyDan: I'm not quite sure what's the limit of the fusioned cowfs thingy :) [02:19] Sorry, it's a LiveUSB, "technically" [02:19] (on a 4GB pen drive, generated from beta2 LiveCD's GUI tool for this) [02:20] update went fine -- apparently -- besides some Warning I spotted reviwing the output : [02:20] Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ufw »... [02:20] WARN: uid is 0 but '/' is owned by 999 [02:21] So I assume it was ufw related, and can't see any relation with disk layout/boot loader... [02:24] hi good day guys, I have NVS 240 + triple monitor setup, does xinerama works now with composite extension? [02:24] I suspect that you want a pendrive install rather than a live install. I didn't think live installs were meant to be upgraded, but I dunno really [02:25] any multiple monitor user out there? [02:26] ChogyDan: yes, I agree -- But well, I didn't even expect it, but things like ssh service install and conf *were* persistent, so were some more package install [02:26] ChogyDan: however, root password was lost I think [02:27] caravel: that isn't good [02:27] What I can't explain, is that first reboot was fine ^^ [02:27] there were around 400MB free still in cowfs after upgrade [02:29] leejohn: not sure, yes I'm using 2 monitors on a regular basis on an nVidia GeForce 8600M (laptiop) on Fedora 16 KDE and had no issue [02:30] (I'm using the proprietary driver as packaged by rpmfusion, community) [02:31] leejohn: (and the so called "TwinView" mode) [02:31] caravel: well my setup requires to use xinerama because of 3 vertical position monitors [02:31] caravel: twinview is working but my setup requires for 3 vertical monitors with xinerama enabled. [02:32] leejohn: never tried, sorry ^^ [02:32] caravel: if xinerama was enabled composite extension is disabled therefore no acceleration [02:32] I see [02:33] they said in precise this will be improved and the release is fast approaching but i didn't see any improvement on this area [02:34] leejohn: nVidia has joined Linux Foundation recently ^^ maybe they're gonna start opening up or providing better drivers at least. Lots of naive hope here :D [02:34] caravel: hehhe, but I think the problem is has something to do with xorg limitation [02:35] caravel: fyi, we roll out 110 ubuntu workstation for a trading station in my company. [02:35] leejohn: well, so far from my experience here its very very poor and basic, even with TwinView I mean. Other cards behave great with Xrandr cf orientation etc [02:36] "anyway" :) good luck leejohn [02:36] caravel: heheh, thanks a lot [02:36] hey, how do I set the screen saver on precise? [02:40] ChogyDan: I think you still have to install xscreensaver [02:43] hmmm, I got it working [02:44] turns out, removing python-minimal wasn't so bad: sudo dpkg --remove --force-all python-minimal; sudo apt-get install -f === ripps_ is now known as ripps [02:59] Hi every one , Since I removed Ubuntu 11.04 and installed 11.10 , it is a disaster: nearly everyday in my system I am logged out automatically and all my unsaved documents are lost. after that I upgraded my system 12.04LTS but still the problem exists ! how to solve the matter plz help me out ! [03:01] ajnr: I would start by checking some logs. dmesg for starters. Then maybe poke around in /var/log anything to do with gdm or login [03:01] ajnr: that's just me, I've no relevant expertise [03:02] ChogyDan, So whats to do from my side ! [03:02] ? [03:02] need some help with upgradinf from 11.10 to 12.04 [03:02] go on [03:02] when I start upgrading with upgrade-manager -d [03:03] my color applet does not work [03:03] update-manager [03:03] I get an error message [03:03] i add my monitor profile and nothing happen [03:04] hey folks, try to put your whole issue in one line [03:04] im wthe upgrade has aborted [03:04] a recovery will run now .. [03:04] and then nothing happens [03:04] ajnr: for starters, why not try what I would do [03:04] dreamwave: wana take a huge risk? [03:04] ChogyDan, sure, I've backed up everything important [03:05] dreamwave: sudo dpkg --remove --force-all python-minimal; sudo apt-get install -f [03:05] ChogyDan, What to do & how to do ? [03:05] ChogyDan, what should I expect after this [03:05] ajnr: run dmesg, look for errors [03:05] dreamwave: restart update-manager, partial upgrade, and it works [03:05] ok lets see .. [03:07] ok, shit started happening [03:08] yep, I just worked through this. Posted a message on devel-discuss about it [03:09] ChogyDan, http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/lelB0Zzm this is the result of dmesg , now i am not able to understand what to do [03:09] installing the packages [03:09] worked , thanks ChanServ [03:09] oops [03:10] dreamwave: I assume by ChanServ, you meant God, and by God you meant me :p [03:10] fo shizzle [03:10] :D [03:10] ajnr: did you run this after the error happened? [03:11] yes [03:11] ChogyDan, yes [03:11] ajnr: well, I don't see anything there myself [03:12] ChogyDan, :( [03:13] ajnr: maybe check out Xorg.0.log in /var/log [03:14] ajnr: you know, I have no idea where gdm logs might be [03:14] ChogyDan, same here [03:17] ChogyDan, is this problem is same exists if i fresh install 12.04 or it is only if i upgrade from one version to another version ! [03:17] ajnr: no idea [03:31] Anyone know what player can play back .av files in Linux? [03:33] WilsonBradley: i would try VLC [03:33] is it final draft? [03:34] I think that's what it's ref. to as [03:34] it's a video format [03:35] http://support.finaldraft.com/article.aspx?cid=1001&aid=1135 [03:35] lol, I think that answer is funny [03:40] Thanks.. That sucks.. [03:40] I can't believe there isn't a Linux player for it [03:41] WilsonBradley: nothing about linux prevents *anyone* from makind a player that will support whatever needs supported [03:41] Im surprised no one hasn't had the need [03:42] in Linux [03:44] WilsonBradley: well, someone asked that question, and the answer was no [03:45] WilsonBradley: doesnt matter if you have the need, if its not open, and the vendor doesnt supporte it, it cant be there [03:45] WilsonBradley: Im not telling you to do this, but "install a pirated copy of windows and a pirated copy of final draft on a virtual machine" [03:46] i say, vote with your wallet [03:46] purchase what you need, and dont buy/use things that dont work for you [03:46] Thanks for the tip. Ya, right now I am running a AV playback Windows app in Wine [03:46] choppy [04:31] Hey.. i was installing 12.04 earlier (updating from 11.10) and i had to shut down in the middle of the package install... the question is. . Did I fuck up my ubuntu? Hadnt had a chance to boot it up again.. [04:32] DreamWave: i would want to fresh install.. but i think its so much faster anyways [04:35] I got some work in there ill have to back up.. [04:35] DreamWave: you should back up *before* trying any upgrades like that === eric_ is now known as Hebram [06:13] wow, I'm really impressed with unity [06:13] nice job guys [06:39] Hello [06:39] when i add a new VPN connection to network-manager everything is ok, the next time i login the vpn disappeared from the network-manager menu, i can still see it in 'edit connections' [06:41] renaming the connection does not make the VPN menu item reappear... [06:44] i'm also able to use the VPN connection from system settings > network [06:44] it just doesn't show up in network manager [06:48] Has Alt+Tab been updated to only switch between windows on your current desktop recently? [06:48] phibxr: yes, it has been like that for a whlie in 12.04 [06:49] but you can change it if necessary [06:49] jokerdino, just didn't notice it until now. I guess I'll get used to it. :) [06:50] great :) [06:50] you do have an option to change it. [06:57] can anyone help me with proprietary intel video drivers? === Jeruvy is now known as Jeruvy_Rules [08:01] hi how to remove hud? I see it processes and it's eats around 50mb ram while I'm not using it at all. I don't need it [08:10] how to remove HUD? [08:46] hi [08:47] how can I upgrade a serries of packages? [08:48] How do you mean? [08:49] I receive an information The problem cannot be reported: You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs: fontconfig, fontconfig-config, initramfs-tools, initramfs-tools-bin, libfontconfig1, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common, libpango1.0-0, librsvg2-2, librsvg2-common, multiarch-support [08:50] Won't obsolete packages be removed with dist-upgrade? [08:52] No the "obsolete" in this case just implies "outdated" [08:52] Edico: Run a standard upgrade? [08:53] upadate-manager / "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" [08:55] thanks [08:55] no' [08:55] :-D [08:57] still I have avatar faces on youtube [08:57] nice [08:57] the people faces when I watch clips on youtube are blue [08:58] but only on youtube [08:58] sounds like a gl overlay issue [08:58] Edico, full screen the flash, turn off hw acceleration [08:58] this is strange, I dont have an oxygen style anymore... [09:03] bazhang, it works without hardware acceleration! [09:03] no blue faces [09:03] Edico, ok [09:03] but it's fine without hw acceleration? [09:04] yes [09:04] bazhang, thanks [09:04] np [09:04] Edico, is that the nvidia driver? [09:06] can someone please point me in the right direction to install oracle java7 [09:07] !java | scar3crow [09:07] scar3crow: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [09:07] scar3crow, check that link [09:07] ty [09:16] Hi all; I have been using Ubuntu for some years now and am quite comfortable with it. I just got a new laptop and am going to install Ubuntu on it, but I'm not sure whether I should install 11.10 or 12.04 Beta 2. I need to install Ubuntu today so I can't wait till the 26th for the release of 12.04. I currently want to install 11.10 and format on the 26th and install 12.04, because I think a clean install is better and the upgrad [09:16] Are these thoughts correct or should I just install 11.10 or even 12.04 Beta 2 and upgrade when 12.04 is released? [09:22] i can't seem to find a good doc for getting 12.04 to recognize my tv connected via the mini display port on a mbp. what is the trick to getting this to work? [09:33] any tips on my question above? [09:33] lizzin: plug it in? [09:34] lizzin: on my laptop i have to go to monoters and turn it on [09:35] lizzin: for some resion my hotkey will only turn off my laptops display not switch [09:44] gogeta: "go to monitors"? [09:45] gogeta: i have it plugged it but can't see that it is even being detected [09:45] lizzin: yea monoter settings it should be listed as a second one [09:45] lizzin: just need to tell it to use it [09:46] gogeta: you mean, settings -> displays? [09:46] lizzin: yea [09:47] gogeta: yea, it is not showing anything. [09:47] gogeta: i click 'detect displays' and nothing changes. just shows 'laptop' [09:47] gogeta: any ideas? [09:47] lizzin: what video card it may need a driver [09:49] it's an nvidia [09:49] looking up exact model,.. [09:49] lizzin: get te nivida drivers if you have not aruldy i dont think the oss driver supports tv out [09:50] gogeta: would people mind if i paste 5 lines in here? [09:50] bot will probly get you [09:50] lizzin, paste bin it [09:50] !paste [09:50] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:50] lizzin, ^ [09:51] http://pastebin.com/PediRc35 [09:51] that looks promising [09:53] omgosh that was hard [10:00] gogeta: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330M] (rev a2) [10:01] gogeta: how do i determine if others and which drivers are needed to make this work? [10:03] lizzin: you just need to install the nivida driver it should be in the repos if it has not asked you yet [10:03] lizzin: i think you go to drivers and it should say it has one for the card [10:04] gogeta: well it did ask me to install 'nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version current-updates)" [10:04] lizzin: i dont use unity so i cant say where [10:04] lizzin: ok [10:04] lizzin: have you tryed using the nivida controle panel [10:04] lizzin: i think for those card you turn it on from there [10:05] gogeta: what do you mean? [10:05] the driver is activated [10:05] lizzin: if your using the closed driver you should have a contole panel ap [10:05] app [10:07] gogeta: oh wow, now we're getting somewhere! [10:07] gogeta: so i found the 'nvidia x server settings' app [10:08] and it shows a disabled samsung and an apple display [10:08] gogeta: looks like i just need to restart x to enable this [10:08] :) [10:09] it works! [10:09] gogeta: thank you [10:10] hmmmm xbmc is kinda nifty :) [10:10] xbmc is win [10:11] lol [10:13] lizzin: yea nividas use a diffrent ap but same result my intel just uses the stock one gotta love my craptastic gma [10:18] gogeta: how do you go about sending audio over your display port? [10:18] nvm [10:18] lizzin: if its hdmi it should have it [10:18] just had to go to system->sound [10:18] ah [10:19] i can't believe how much is just working out of the box [10:19] lizzin: not mitch does not these days other then 3g modems [10:19] mutch [10:19] i haven't used linux in years. the simplest thing used to require so much configuring [10:30] lizzin: linux has been that way for a bit now [10:38] hey guys, been in an out for this past many monts,, used to be gdm restart when going to text console to get back to desktop,, what is it now? [10:38] lightdm i bevele [10:39] beleve [10:52] sudo service lightdm restart [10:59] so i can't either upgrade or uninstall of fix the 'python3' metapackage, i've successfully broken the system and will never have an up to date precise. this makes me sad [10:59] Dont you have a backup? [11:00] topyli: and apt-get install -f doesnt help? [11:00] nope, apt itself stumbles before it gets to work [11:01] and have you tried removing it manually with dpkg ? [11:01] yep [11:02] this is apt-get -f install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/939485/ [11:03] hiya folks, having serious video performance issues with 12.04 on my ATi gfx card on an AMD 7550 dual-core box... seems to be only in some apps though, other apps are fine. [11:03] here's dpkg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/939486/ [11:03] when I move the contents or window (eg, here on Xchat), you get the slow redraw so it gives a tearing/shearing effect. [11:03] used to run 100% blisteringly good [11:05] topyli: and a reinstall from the deb? :) [11:06] * inflex thinks it's tring to load/use the nVidia driver (which is for the disabled onboard VGA) rather than the ATi one [11:06] jussi: let me see [11:07] (at least according to the log file) [11:07] jussi: no, same error from dpkg [11:07] time to study some debian documentation i suppose [11:08] inflex: tried reinstalling the ati driver? [11:08] failing that, i'm sure jussi will tell me how to (re)install linux on a macbook :) [11:09] lol [11:09] thats gonna be a bunch of fail [11:09] oh no i wouldn't want a bunch of that :) [11:10] meh, i'll survive for a few days while i get some work done. i just can't upgrade or install anything [11:11] jussi: yes, via the simpler methods but fails... trying now with the driverdirect download from ATi andbuilding etc [11:12] inflex: hang on, Im tryign to remember the command, but you can reconfigure the driver perhaps "aticonfig" iirc [11:12] anyone got a working Marvell 88SE6145 SATA II PCI-E controller with ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 [11:12] yes, there is aticonfig, but at this point it doesn't seem to be doing the magic for me... will try smething else as well while I wait for the 100MB download [11:15] jussi: there is the aticonfig --initial [11:15] jussi: will see how thatgoes after this download is done [11:15] inflex: :) [11:15] (and then of course amdcccle [11:16] hi. i am sure not the first to ask, but: can i change the launcher's behaviour so it gets automatically hidden only if needed(like in the last ubuntu)? [11:17] user82: install compizconfig-settings-manager and use the Unity Plugin to manage it [11:17] thank you yeats [11:17] myunity did not help me so far ;) [11:19] yeats if i have "autohide" it hides _always_ also if there would be space for it(no window etc)? [11:22] Anyone finding that U12.04 is coming up with a lot of crashes with the underlying system that it keeps wanting to report? [11:23] inflex: It doesnt, here. [11:23] user82: correct - the "dodge windows" behavior available in 11.10 appears to be gone [11:23] nor here [11:23] was getting your problem yesterday inflex [11:24] still a bit [11:24] but reasonably stable [11:24] scar3crow: yeah, seems to have eased off today ( I saw about 300MB of updates come through ) [11:24] only issues i have is no sound in terminal and not shutting don [11:24] true yeats...but google and "dodge windows" gives me help [11:24] thanks for the correct term of what i meatn [11:24] scar3crow: I'm on OpenBox + lxpanel, so I don't haveall the Unity or fallback stuff running [11:25] ok [11:25] user82: I'm sure there's a blog tutorial on how to hack it ;-) [11:25] (why not?) [11:25] scar3crow: why don't I run Unity or fallback? [11:25] yeah [11:25] it got filed as bug many times..because even if intentionally meant to be...it is a awful bug [11:26] scar3crow: never had the need - come from running X in the early 1990's so I'm quite used to and finewith very minimalistic WM/DM setups [11:26] k [11:26] scar3crow: everything is setup on key-bindings so it's all quick and plenty of screen realestate. [11:26] heh [11:26] I like the bling... that Unity brings [11:27] scar3crow: I do like what the bling offers, but I ultimately tire from it and end up back with the minimalised setup [11:27] Still, the lxpanel offers about my level of "bling" :) [11:27] I use gnome for gaming :-/ [11:28] is there a bettwe way to game, I wonder... [11:30] hey can I game from tty? [11:31] ? [11:31] I've updated yesterday, now when I enter into my session after enter the password, the screen goes black and then another time it shows the login screen [11:33] hi [11:33] scar3crow, yes type aptitude moo [11:33] and aptitude -v moo [11:34] I want to change the resolution with ubuntus randr client and: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Keine derartige Schnittstelle »org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR_2« des Objekts im Pfad /org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/XRANDR [11:34] moo? === guest-oGUPhS is now known as carnau [11:34] !moo [11:37] ok you guys are just messing with me [11:38] Wow, this catalyst driver-source download is as slow as my display is atm :( [11:39] I didn't even open a term [11:39] boo [11:40] hi I'm trying to upgrade to 12.04 via update-manager -d, but no update option is offered in the launched update manager. see some errors here http://pastie.org/3826929 [11:41] don't be mean to me please..... I try to help as best as I can [11:42] arianit: sudo do-release-upgrade [11:43] scar3crow, No new release found [11:43] wow [11:44] I do have to say - when it is working, 12.04 does look a lot cleaner/nicer than 11.10 [11:44] arianit: the errors you pasted are not related to the (non-)upgrade, FYI - they're just gtk errors [11:44] arianit: what release are you running? [11:44] yeats, my feeling as well [11:45] 11.10 [11:45] sudo do-release-upgrade -d [11:46] scar3crow, same thing Checking for a new ubuntu release [11:46] No new release found [11:46] bummer [11:47] d/l iso... burn, insert? [11:47] :P [11:47] trying to avoid that, could there be an issue with repositories? [11:48] there is a command... do devel release or something [11:48] I'm being lazy..... google it [11:49] help! [11:49] there is some chinese language [11:49] i did not install this language, i cannot read whats standing there [11:49] it's only the language settings infected [11:52] sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release === RobinJ1995 is now known as RobinJ [11:59] you cant just use -d? [12:00] apparently not [12:01] yeah i just saw that in --help [12:01] yes you can use -d [12:01] ok [12:02] -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible [12:10] scar3crow, gnomefreak No, same thing. I reverted to the default sources list via command line but no luck. Sources list via GUI doesn't open anywhere. only via text editing I can see it. [12:35] hi all. [12:36] i install 12.04 beta 2 today,but it's running slowly,does it normal? [12:37] Jaco: Can you describe which bit is slow - everything or somthing in particular? [12:38] penguin42: everything.. [12:39] Jaco: Hmm it shouldn't be that slow - what's the spec of your machine? [12:39] because it's still a beta version,so working slowly? [12:40] running a wubi install of 12.04 on an older machine.... lightning fast, Jaco [12:41] really? maybe my machine should have a check... [12:41] perhaps [12:42] my quad core rig ran it slowly... hd was failing [12:42] OMG.. [12:43] yeah [12:43] I'm only running a celeron atm and it's fast enough ;) [12:44] Jaco: It's very close to release now, shouldn't be a beta-ism [12:46] yea,but i installed the beta version last week [12:47] i don't like unity.. [12:47] that seems to be a fairly common sentiment [12:48] Jaco: Well, you can try Kde, gnome-shell, xfce, or install things like Mate from other repos [12:49] I've been away from recent linux distributions for ~3 years, stuck with a grungy old RHEL VM at work, recently bought a beefy box for linux and what a shock to see not only unity, but gnome3 [12:50] GnarlyBob: Yeh it's a bit of a shock for us old timers [12:51] Hi guys, I've got a small issue: after using the mini ISO to only install GNOME Shell with 12.04 (using LightDM as DM) I can't get it to log in, any thoughts? [12:52] P.s.: I used a cable during install and afterwards configured my wireless, might this be conflicting? (It mentions waiting on network configuration during booting) [12:52] shouldn't stop the login [12:53]