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| jo-erlend | Still can't play Severed Fifth in Rhythmbox on 64bit Ubuntu 12.04. Neither Rhythmbox or Totem are able to install necessary plugins for anything. I find it a little disturbing that things like that are still broken less than a week before release. | 07:12 |
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| jo-erlend | I haven't been able to find anyone who knows why this is the case. Perhaps someone here does? | 07:13 |
| popey | jo-erlend: can mplayer play it? | 08:02 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/939354/ | 08:04 |
| jo-erlend | popey, I haven't the foggiest. I know vlc can, for instance, and both Totem and Rhythmbox can if I install ubuntu-restricted-extras. But they cannot install required codecs the way they're supposed to. | 09:18 |
| jo-erlend | you get a dependency error. | 09:19 |
| jo-erlend | sometimes, when I put myself in the role of a new user, Ubuntu seems utterly untested. It still isn't possible to "Open With > Other" with Firefox, for instance. It only allows you to choose files, not applications. Completely obvious things that still isn't working five days before release.. Makes me more than a little nervous. | 09:22 |
| popey | ok ok, putting the rant to one side lets diagnose the issue | 09:26 |
| popey | jo-erlend: pastebin what happens when you "mplayer track.mp3" | 09:27 |
| jo-erlend | popey, why mplayer? Totem and Rhythmbox both use GStreamer, don't they? | 09:28 |
| popey | because mplaye produces readable output | 09:29 |
| jo-erlend | ok. Wait a moment, and I'll paste the results I get when trying to play an mp3 the way someone who didn't know anything would. | 09:29 |
| popey | ok, you clearly don't want any help but just want to rant about how this doesn't work | 09:30 |
| popey | I'll stop. | 09:31 |
| jo-erlend | hmm? I told you, I can easily play music and video. A beginner will not be able to. That's the issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/939417 | 09:32 |
| popey | I know, you've mentioned it 3 times now | 09:32 |
| jo-erlend | yes, but you seem to think it's just ranting or that I'm complaining on my own behalf. That's not the case. | 09:45 |
| popey | no | 09:45 |
| popey | i am just asking you to provide some info so I can help debug it | 09:45 |
| popey | you're focussing on what I'm asking you to do, as if I am expecting all users to install mplayer as a fix, which I am not | 09:46 |
| popey | I just asked you to run mplayer because it produces more useful output than totem | 09:46 |
| jo-erlend | yes, mplayer plays it. | 09:55 |
| popey | can you pastebin the output? | 09:55 |
| jo-erlend | http://paste.ubuntu.com/939434 | 09:56 |
| jo-erlend | seems less useful than the deb information though? http://paste.ubuntu.com/939417 | 09:57 |
| popey | "Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available." is interesting | 09:58 |
| popey | but other mp3s seem to do that too | 09:59 |
| popey | why do you have the i386 package of gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed? | 09:59 |
| jo-erlend | popey, probably came with ffmpeg? | 10:02 |
| popey | i dont have it on my system | 10:02 |
| jo-erlend | I don'ẗ know. I don't think I've installed it intentionally. | 10:02 |
| popey | what gets removed if you remove it? | 10:02 |
| jo-erlend | but on a 64bit 12.04 install does prefer gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:i386 | 10:03 |
| popey | i have the native version on my amd64 system | 10:03 |
| popey | not i386 | 10:03 |
| jo-erlend | right, but that's not what Totem and Rhythmbox wants to install. | 10:04 |
| jo-erlend | they both want to install the i386 | 10:04 |
| popey | totem plays mp3s fine here | 10:04 |
| popey | and they haven't installed i386 packages | 10:04 |
| jo-erlend | it does here too, after I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. But if I'm going to ask the media to test and write about Ubuntu, I can't tell them to do things like that. It makes Ubuntu still look like a thing for very technical users. And this is supposed to be very easy. Has been the last few releass. | 10:05 |
| jo-erlend | popey, I have confirmed this on about fifty installs, during the entire cycle. | 10:06 |
| popey | bug number? | 10:06 |
| jo-erlend | I'm not entirely sure I've even looked for it. Playing music and video seems like something so obvious, I was sure someone else had it under control. | 10:08 |
| popey | yet you've seen it on 50 machines? | 10:08 |
| popey | ok, get it filed | 10:09 |
| jo-erlend | and you know.. To me personally, it's never been a problem anyway, so I just figured it'd go away by itself and forgot all about it. It's only a few days since I made a reinstall. I was absolutely sure this had been fixed a long time ago. | 10:09 |
| jo-erlend | popey, not fifty machines. Installs. | 10:09 |
| popey | same thing | 10:09 |
| popey | ok, lets get it filed then. | 10:10 |
| jo-erlend | no, it most definitely is not the same. I've reinstalled on my laptop many times during this cycle. It's still the same machine. | 10:10 |
| popey | do you need help filing the bug? | 10:10 |
| jo-erlend | no. | 10:10 |
| popey | I can certainly try to confirm it in a VM, let me know the bug number once it's filed | 10:11 |
| popey | sorry for the misunderstanding. | 10:12 |
| jo-erlend | while I'm reporting it, confirm it anyway. In a fresh install, without installing codecs with ubiquity, click on an mp3 file and accept the defaults. | 10:12 |
| jo-erlend | do the same with any kind of video or audio. The result is the same. | 10:12 |
| popey | will do | 10:16 |
| popey | using latest daily of precise? | 10:16 |
| jo-erlend | sure. Any will do. | 10:16 |
| popey | ok | 10:17 |
| jo-erlend | but I have to say; if something like playing music and video can slip through the cracks, then we have serious problems. | 10:23 |
| popey | meh | 10:23 |
| popey | lets see what the problem is first | 10:23 |
| jo-erlend | a package dependency issue.. Didn't you look at the paste? http://paste.ubuntu.com/939417/ | 10:27 |
| popey | yes, i looked at it | 10:29 |
| popey | i also couldn't read it | 10:29 |
| jo-erlend | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/986520 | 10:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986520 in sessioninstaller "On 64bit systems :i386 codec packages cannot be installed. Media cannot be played. " [Undecided,New] | 10:31 |
| * popey subscribes | 10:31 | |
| popey | just downloading iso now | 10:32 |
| jo-erlend | popey, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot it's in Norwegian. | 10:32 |
| * popey installs | 10:33 | |
| popey | np ☺ | 10:33 |
| popey | my Norwegian isn't too hot ;) | 10:33 |
| popey | \o/ virtualbox installing ubuntu | 10:35 |
| jo-erlend | I don't even see Norwegian in text like that, because I know what the static text message says :) | 10:35 |
| jo-erlend | yes, Windows 7 broke my MD RAID the other day, and I lost 1.8TB of data. Among that was my entire collection of ISOs. I didn't back those up, so I need to download again. That'll take a while. :) | 10:36 |
| popey | erk | 10:39 |
| * popey has just setup his first btrfs array at home | 10:39 | |
| jo-erlend | right. That's what I did too. I went from an MD/LVM solution to a pure btrfs solution. It's wonderful :) | 10:39 |
| jo-erlend | so wonderful, I didn't really feel that bad about having to restore from backup :) | 10:40 |
| popey | hah | 10:40 |
| jo-erlend | and boot time went from 1m30s to about 35 seconds. :) | 10:41 |
| * popey updates bug 986520 | 10:58 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986520 in sessioninstaller "On 64bit systems :i386 codec packages cannot be installed. Media cannot be played. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986520 | 10:58 |
| popey | its a dupe of bug 899001 | 10:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 899001 in sessioninstaller "gst-install wants to install i386-version of codec packages on amd64" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899001 | 10:59 |
| popey | and it's fix-committed \o/ | 11:00 |
| popey | thanks for reporting it jo-erlend | 11:02 |
| jo-erlend | hope it lands in time for me to finish the videos. I thought I'd have a couple of weeks. | 11:02 |
| jo-erlend | the last time Ubuntu was mentioned in Norwegian media was back in 2008, so it would be really great if we could impress some journalists with this one – preferably before release, so they have time to write about it when that happens. | 11:08 |
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| JoseeAntonioR | jono: Hello! Do you have a second? | 22:19 |
| jono | JoseeAntonioR, sure | 22:19 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jono: Well, I don't know if you remember, I told you if you could please take a look at a blueprint last week. The link has changed, it is totally revamped and much more specific about the topics. It is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-ubuntu-youth | 22:20 |
| jono | JoseeAntonioR, cool | 22:21 |
| jono | can you mail me about this so I can take a look? | 22:21 |
| jono | just send the URL to jono@ubuntu.com | 22:21 |
| jono | I will take a look when I get a second | 22:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jono: Yep, great. Thank you! | 22:22 |
| jono | thanks JoseeAntonioR! | 22:22 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Thanks to you for your time :) | 22:22 |
| cjohnston | I may have found a bug | 22:53 |
| cjohnston | uggh.. wrong window | 22:53 |
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