| sgCoder | hi | 01:24 |
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| hyperair | huh there's a really huge multiarch breakage today in the archive | 01:48 |
| hyperair | all my :i386 packages got removed | 01:49 |
| hyperair | ...even nautilus got removed?! | 01:52 |
| hyperair | oh it looks like it's fixed | 01:53 |
| cyphermox | SpamapS: poke | 04:42 |
| cyphermox | re bug 211631: I'm not certain your comment is true. I think the binaries that run the VPN plugins would get killed by sendsigs. | 04:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 211631 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu Natty) "Network is brought down before network filesystems are unmounted (CIFS timeout at shutdown)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211631 | 04:43 |
| cyphermox | (and I should fix that ;) | 04:44 |
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| SpamapS | cyphermox: Ah so just like dnsmasq, they need to add themselves to the whitelist | 05:49 |
| cyphermox | SpamapS: possibly. It depends at what point the stuff gets unmounted. if it's a SysVinit script, it would get unmounted before sendsigs, then the vpn plugin binary XYZ would get killed, and all is well | 05:50 |
| cyphermox | if it's an upstart job, then all is not well; but that's easy enough to fix | 05:50 |
| cyphermox | I just don't remember and didn't bother to look at the setup again to make sure, yet ;) | 05:50 |
| trijntje | ping pitti: I'm trying to build a localised image using a PPA, but ubuntu-defaults-image returns "Invalid fingerprint returned by launchpad" | 05:51 |
| cyphermox | SpamapS: I think regardless it makes sense to avoid the plugins getting killed before NM turns interfaces and VPNs off, which would get stop these processes anyway | 05:51 |
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| slangasek | cyphermox: sendsigs is run from a sysvinit script, one which deliberately runs before unmounting network filesystems | 06:27 |
| slangasek | that's the same root issue as it's been all along, just now with a different type of network helper being killed | 06:28 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: right, because the processes could have been started from a remote FS or depend on it | 06:28 |
| slangasek | yes | 06:28 |
| cyphermox | aye aye, will just need to make the processes spawned by NM be omitted for that too | 06:28 |
| slangasek | yep - *any* process NM spawns, that it expects to keep running and reap on its own at shutdown, should be in the omit list | 06:29 |
| cyphermox | that's a fix in each of the vpn plugin packages, there are only for. | 06:29 |
| cyphermox | *four | 06:29 |
| slangasek | ok | 06:29 |
| trijntje | pitti: Nevermind, I was using the wrong name for the ppa | 06:30 |
| rectec | How are you guys? Before I ask for help, I just want to ask how development is going along. We have only 5 days until release and currently my installation looks a bit shabby... | 08:21 |
| rectec | anyone? | 08:23 |
| rectec | ok, well... I have a problem in which the text inside dialog boxes is too light to read. This affects the Ambiance theme and one other theme. (The Hope theme, only 3rd-party theme I've tested.) The Radiance theme doesn't seem to have this issue. | 08:28 |
| rectec | I don't know if this is a known issue and has/has not been solved, or if I'm the only one with this issue. | 08:29 |
| vibhav | Ive updated a package (onboard) to 0.97-0-0ubuntu3 locally, How Do I get it into oneiric? | 10:35 |
| jtaylor | doko_: numpy -8 merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/precise/python-numpy/merge-8/+merge/102970 | 13:56 |
| jtaylor | its not very important so if its to late feel free to reject it | 13:57 |
| jeinor | slangasek: I got the Cubox up and running with kernel 3.3.1 and Ubuntu Core 12.04 beta 2 :D | 14:52 |
| jeinor | slangasek: got some (a lot) of help from ogra_ in #ubuntu-arm, and with his directions I finally got a login console! | 14:53 |
| jeinor | slangasek: thanks for all your help too, really helpful! | 14:53 |
| SpamapS | vibhav: You need to file a bug, make sure that bug is fixed in the latest dev release (precise still.. soon "q"), and then choose 'Nominate for series' in launchpad and choose Oneiric. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure | 14:59 |
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| hdon- | hi all :) in many months using the latest ubuntu LTS i have noticed that all my CPU cores are rarely used. even if i am building large software packages with -j5 only 1/4 CPU cores are being fully utilized. i'm certainly not I/O bound at the hard disk. if anyone has any advice for me i would be very thankful | 19:08 |
| penguin42 | how many cores do you have? | 19:18 |
| infinity | penguin42: I'm assuming 4. | 19:33 |
| infinity | hdon-: How are you determining if your cores are being "used"? | 19:33 |
| infinity | hdon-: If you make -j5, you should get 5 forks of make (assuming the Makefile can parallelize well, the kernel's always a good test). | 19:33 |
| infinity | hdon-: That doesn't mean each CPU will get pegged at 100%, but it does mean each will get "used". | 19:34 |
| hdon- | infinity, the system monitor application | 19:34 |
| hdon- | infinity, it seems to my eye that only one CPU is being used fully at a time. the others all hover around 20%, and of course they switch off. one core isn't always the same one on duty | 19:34 |
| infinity | If you make a kernel with -j4 (or higher), you should see a system load in top >= 4. | 19:35 |
| infinity | Snapshots of system use are rarely accurate. | 19:35 |
| infinity | (For instance, in the above kernel scenario, with -j4, you'll often see 4 instances of "cc1", but they won't necessarily all report using 100% CPU at all times) | 19:35 |
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| IntuitiveNipple | What's the procedure for requesting a freeze exception for a bug-fix at this stage? I've subscribed ubuntut-release as per one wiki recommendation (bug #927828 in sudo) ? | 20:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 927828 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo: pam_mount.c:417: modify_pm_count: Assertion `user != ((void *)0)' failed." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927828 | 20:00 |
| cjwatson | IntuitiveNipple: that sounds like a good candidate for an SRU, I think, rather than trying to squeeze a fix in a few days before release when we don't have much time for validation or for recovering if something goes wrong | 20:46 |
| cjwatson | I assume it only affects people with pam-mount installed (?), so perhaps it's release-note and fix for .1 | 20:46 |
| maxb | cjwatson: Oh, about the subversion FTBFS - I've been slowly slowly plodding through building a set of backported patches, but every time I think I'm done, another test randomly fails. | 20:47 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It affects all pam modules... its just that pam_mount complains with an assert | 20:47 |
| IntuitiveNipple | The key issue is, that the bug revealed, pam_open_session() isn't called when sudo has a valid timestamp | 20:47 |
| IntuitiveNipple | So pam modules that are hooking the begin_session won't get triggered | 20:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I suppose a work-around would be to temporarily set "timestamp 0" | 20:48 |
| cjwatson | maxb: I know the feeling | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | doesn't help that it's a slow build | 20:50 |
| maxb | It builds quite quickly on my desktop; the testsuite is a bit slow, though | 20:51 |
| cjwatson | IntuitiveNipple: well, what I mean is, this bug was reported in February, and *I* haven't been seeing the second use of every sudo ticket fail | 20:51 |
| cjwatson | If it were doing that for everyone, this would be High or Critical and likely a showstopper - but it isn't | 20:51 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Maybe it affects Oneiric->Precise upgrades ? | 20:51 |
| cjwatson | Then it would affect me | 20:51 |
| cjwatson | This is the first I've heard of this bug, in fact | 20:52 |
| IntuitiveNipple | yeah, I was trying to figure out what it is that is causing it. For those that it affects, it occurs whenever there's a valid timestamp | 20:52 |
| cjwatson | So it must have some kind of narrowed criteria | 20:52 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Maybe it's something to do with PAM configuration | 20:52 |
| cjwatson | Hence my comment about libpam-mount, if that's the only thing that fails hard | 20:53 |
| cjwatson | And since that's an add-on not installed by default, IIRC ... | 20:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Really? I didn't know anything about it until this bug then I found it installed | 20:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Hmmm! | 20:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Maybe it's to do with if encrypted home is in use? | 20:54 |
| cjwatson | I don't see anything like that in its reverse-depends | 20:54 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Interesting - I assumed it was part of the standard installation since I didn't recognise it | 20:54 |
| cjwatson | Just sadms, which isn't by default either | 20:55 |
| cjwatson | It's been in server-ship since hardy, but that's all I see immediately - can look a bit harder later | 20:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I've just grepped all of /var/log/apt/* which goes back to Dec 5th without seeing libpam_mount ... so maybe it was installed originally by oneiric on my system, since Oneiric was a clean install | 20:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | OK .. so I should write up an SRU for it? | 20:58 |
| maxb | subversion-wise, I think we just have to release precise with it FTBFS; there'll be a SRU soonish for 1.6.18, so it's not completely horrid to do so | 20:58 |
| cjwatson | maxb: I really want to reach zero out-of-date binaries - perhaps I could help on Monday given your state so far? | 21:01 |
| cjwatson | although it's on some images I guess, argh | 21:01 |
| slangasek | IntuitiveNipple, cjwatson: I certainly think not opening pam sessions for authentications with an existing ticket is SRU-worthy but not a show-stopper; in fact there are several bugs in sudo session handling that I think need sorted out in SRU, and this is among them. But yes, pam-mount isn't stock. | 21:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It must be have been sadms that brought it in - I _vaguely_ recall looking at that package for some reason last year | 21:06 |
| IntuitiveNipple | slangasek: Well it looks like the sudo author accepts there is an issue now, despite initially saying my analysis was wrong, so maybe now's the time to push bugs upstream | 21:07 |
| slangasek | IntuitiveNipple: where is the upstream discussion happening? bug tracker / list / private email? | 21:08 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Well I found the sudo bugzilla and there were only a handful of bugs in it, so it looks like folks rarely use it. It's linked to the launchpad sudo project though, and I've linked it on the bug itself | 21:09 |
| slangasek | which bug is that? | 21:10 |
| IntuitiveNipple | bug #927828 | 21:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 927828 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo: pam_mount.c:417: modify_pm_count: Assertion `user != ((void *)0)' failed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927828 | 21:10 |
| slangasek | ok | 21:10 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Rich Miller _is_ the upstream author, was very quick and precise in responding | 21:11 |
| slangasek | pitti: so we've worked out with some difficulty that a client-side apport dupe check is causing update-manager crash reports to be treated as duplicates of a closed bug (bug #628104) and we want to have them *not* treated that way so we can get full clean backtraces from bug submitters. How do we do that? | 21:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 628104 in Aptdaemon "update-manager crashes: AptDaemonError: org.debian.apt: Could not cancel transaction" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628104 | 21:22 |
| slangasek | well, a bug that /was/ closed | 21:23 |
| slangasek | pitti: I don't have confidence here that the duplicate signature is accurate and would like to see a recent backtrace | 21:23 |
| slangasek | pitti: or at least get a better understanding of the duplication algorithm :) | 21:24 |
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| maxb | cjwatson: Sorry, was away; yeah, I figured it was already too late what with it being seeded | 22:29 |
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