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qwebirc85183Hi, I'm testing out 12.04 on a frontend with a 0.23 backend because according to the repos page 0.23 is supported but it seems like 12.04 only supports 0.25 or newer.  Which is correct?01:36
superm1qwebirc85183: only 0.25 and newer are supported on 12.0402:36
rhpot1991qwebirc85183: what did you read that led you to believe that 0.23 was supported?02:46
qwebirc52030rhpot1991: I read it here that 0.23 was supported on 12.04: http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds03:04
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rhpot1991qwebirc52030: what verbage on that page?03:07
rhpot1991I don't see anything that indicates that03:07
qwebirc52030rhpot1991: The big graphic shows 0.23 supported on 12.0403:08
rhpot1991tgm4883: ^03:10
rhpot1991thanks qwebirc52030 we'll get that fixed03:10
superm1oh didn't realize we had a big graphic03:15
superm1tgm4883:did you add that?03:15
qwebirc52030rhpot1991: NP, Btw, I like the graphic.03:20
amejiasuperm1: libcec has been uploaded http://packages.qa.debian.org/libc/libcec/news/20120421T041722Z.html04:53
Zinn[packages.qa.debian.org] Accepted libcec 1.6.1-1 (source amd64)04:53
amejiasuperm1: good night :)04:53
=== dekarl1 is now known as dekarl
dekarlsuperm1: tgm4883: do you have a fix in the pipeline to add the <crashedprogramname.log> in addition to the mythbackend.log in the apport script? If not I'll give it a try.09:29
dekarlnvm, I see that it now collects *.log from /var/log/mythtv, was remembering complaints about missing the right log lately09:32
dekarlnext question, what is needed to get retraces for the ppa packages?09:36
superm1dekarl: for PPA packages, it's best if the user has mythtv-dbg installed already14:36
superm1if they don't, it is possible to run a retrace for them, but a lot of wor14:37
superm1and only works for a day or so (once new debug symbols are on the PPA, the retracer service can't work properly)14:37
superm1thank amejia14:37
dekarlthats sad. So no good automatic backtraces via apport :(14:38
superm1well as far as i'm aware at least that's not possible14:39
superm1i mean apport will do the trick locally - they just need mythtv-dbg installed14:39
superm1that's the reason we made a mythtv-dbg package rather than the ddeb method normal ubuntu packages use14:39
dekarlsuperm1: if the user has mythtv-dbg (and all other dbg packages) installed, then apport will retrace?14:39
superm1yes14:39
dekarlhmm, might be nice to have an option in MCC "I want to be able to submit automatic bug reports" or similar14:40
superm1thats why in our apport job we have a line that checks if mythtv-dbg is installed right now14:40
superm1but we could make it more interactive such that if it's a crash don't let apport file it unless mythtv-dbg is installed14:40
superm1fortunately anyone from 12.04 will at least be on 0.25 gold and apport auto trace jobs work properly on anything in the archive - without mythtv-dbg installed14:41
dekarlsuggesting something like "to make your bug report more useful its suggested to update *and* install the debugging symbols"14:41
superm1yup14:41
superm1mrand: thoughts^ ?14:41
dekarlI understand that the retrace will work until the user enables the updates from fixes/0.25, is that correct? So if the user updates his bug reports are less helpful? Thats not so nice ;)14:43
dekarl(the OS numbers at smolt made me look into the automatic bug reports again. If I understood correctly apport is enabled by default on 12.04 LTS)14:44
superm1dekarl: yeah that's the case14:44
superm1although we can also cheat and make mythtv-dbg a recommends on fixes/0.25 if we want14:44
superm1and that will just solve the problem14:45
superm1but yes apport is enabled by default on 12.04 LTS so that the new "Whoopsie" daemon works14:45
dekarlI'm not sure what "suggests" means for packages, but imho a gig or two worth of disk space (does mythtv-dbg pull in all other debug packages?) for each installation is a good investment to make good use of developer time.14:49
patdk-lapbut I could fit another quarter of a movie if I didn't have them installed :)14:53
superm1well it's only another 50mb.  it doesn't pull in the other debug packages15:02
superm1the only problem is that's another 50mb on EVERY update, and you autobuilds.  it builds alot :)15:02
mrandsuperm1: other than the 50 MB of bandwidth (which multiplied by a bunch of people using the PPA), any downsides?17:18
mrandWe need a way for smolt to gather what people are using (PPA vs. not)17:18
superm1mrand: won't smolt be able to tell because anyone with a version string that's > release is PPA?17:29
superm1mrand: but no, no other downsides that i see17:29
superm1and if it's a recommends, people who don't want it can get rid of it17:29
mrandsuperm1: true, but that isn't displayed on the smolt web page.  I'm guessing smolt has the data - just doesn't display it17:33
superm1mrand: yeah something like this http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html18:12
Zinn[smolt.mythtv.org] Stats18:12
superm1that mythtv_data tab needs more18:12
hello_plutoHello.  I have an AVerTVHD Bravo TV tuner.  Anyone know of any drivers out there for it?19:39
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davidI've been trying to get my Hauppage remote control to work with mythtv.  It came with my Hauppage 2250.  I have successfully gotten my tuner recognized and it is working but the remote does not work.  I have read that it is not supported so I dug out an old Logitech IR mouse receiver.  I have read that you can use the mceusb driver for this but I cannot get it configured.  I am not very familiar with linux so please be explicit with any suggestions.20:00
davidI am using mythbuntu and have configured ir in the mythbuntu control centre/infrared setup.  I selected enable a remote control, then chose windows media centre transceivers/remotes (all).  Next I rebooted.20:53
davidAfter the reboot I tried irw but there are no keypresses registered in irw.20:54
davidI have 2 files in /etc/lirc - hardware.conf and lircd.conf20:55
davidHere is the hardware.conf:20:56
davidREMOTE="Windows Media Center Transceivers/Remotes (all)"20:56
davidREMOTE_MODULES="lirc_dev mceusb"20:56
davidREMOTE_DRIVER=""20:56
davidREMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/lirc0"20:56
davidREMOTE_SOCKET=""20:56
davidREMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb"20:56
davidREMOTE_LIRCD_ARGS=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER="None"20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_MODULES=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_DRIVER=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_DEVICE=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_SOCKET=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_LIRCD_CONF=""20:56
davidTRANSMITTER_LIRCD_ARGS=""20:56
davidSTART_LIRCD="true"20:57
davidSTART_LIRCMD=""20:57
davidLOAD_MODULES=""20:57
davidLIRCMD_CONF=""20:57
davidFORCE_NONINTERACTIVE_RECONFIGURATION="false"20:57
david... and here is the lircd.conf......20:57
david#This configuration has been automatically generated via20:57
david#the Ubuntu LIRC package maintainer scripts.20:57
david#20:57
david#It includes the default configuration for the remote and/or20:57
david#transmitter that you have selected during package installation.20:57
david#20:57
david#Feel free to add any custom remotes to the configuration20:57
david#via additional include directives or below the existing20:57
david#Ubuntu include directives from your selected remote and/or20:57
david#transmitter.20:58
david#Configuration for the Windows Media Center Transceivers/Remotes (all) remote:20:58
davidinclude "/usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb"20:58
davidBut..... looking at /dev there does not appear to be an lirc0 in there (only an lircd entry which points to /var/run/lirc/lircd).  I don't know what these /dev entries refer to so I'm not sure how to generate lirc0.....21:04
davidMy logitech IR receiver is being recognized.  It appears in lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c501 Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver21:06
mdurkqHey guys first time on mythtv irc, hope you can help21:28
mdurkqHardware21:28
mdurkq2GHz Athlon / 1GB Ram / HVR-1100 / PVR-15021:28
mdurkqProblem21:28
mdurkqMy system records 2 channels with no problems, I didn't check ram usage while recording 2 channels, but I have a single recording going on now and it's using 933MB of my ram, how is it a single recording uses this much but has no issues recording 2 at the same time? Or am I just missing something totally?21:28
Patrickdkmdurkq, define, using 922mb of my ram21:45
mdurkqunder info center, system status, machine, i think ive answered my own question while waiting for an answer though, im guess its to frontend using the ram not the recording, im running a backend w/ frontend setup21:50
mdurkqguessing its the*21:50
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dekarl1It would be nice if libmyth-0.26-0 would conflict with libmyth-0.25-0 (and older and vice versa) to avoid this http://paste.ubuntu.com/940392/23:50
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