| ali1234 | http://spaceappschallenge.org/ | 00:10 |
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| ali1234 | even nasa wants in on this bubble | 00:10 |
| cocoa117 | anyone know kde-config is still in ubuntu 11.10? | 00:55 |
| === gry is now known as gry2 | ||
| === gry2 is now known as gry | ||
| Mostovoi | hi | 02:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Good morning everyone! | 06:53 |
| popey | Morning | 07:53 |
| AlanBell | morning | 08:12 |
| popey | AlanBell: yummy eggs thanks | 08:40 |
| AlanBell | :) | 08:40 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:31 |
| AlanBell | evryone filled this in? http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ | 10:42 |
| AlanBell | tempted by one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/268244-ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-agt3-25sat3-120g-agt3-25sat3-120g | 10:53 |
| popey | you got that spam too huh? | 11:00 |
| popey | thats what I have in my thinkpad | 11:00 |
| popey | (the 240GB version) | 11:00 |
| popey | it's double-plus quick | 11:00 |
| AlanBell | yeah, might go for a 240GB | 11:00 |
| AlanBell | just doing an analysis of what the 250GB in /home/alan actuall is | 11:01 |
| popey | heh | 11:01 |
| popey | i did the same | 11:01 |
| popey | /dev/sda1 216G 153G 53G 75% / | 11:01 |
| AlanBell | I think I can remove a heap of old/duplicate VM images | 11:01 |
| popey | not basd | 11:01 |
| popey | *bad | 11:01 |
| popey | yeah, VM, ISO, music and photo is what eats mine | 11:01 |
| popey | so i unsubbed from my Ubuntu One Pictures folder and deleted all my photos | 11:02 |
| popey | now I just let my desktop sync those, it has 1TB of rust and 120GB of ssd as root | 11:02 |
| AlanBell | 6GB photos and 1.3GB of music, it isn't that. 20GB in Downloads. | 11:02 |
| AlanBell | 4GB in desktop (which consists of various levels, where I occasionally create a folder called "desktop crap" on the desktop and drag everything into it | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | ) | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | I have no idea how deep that tree goes | 11:03 |
| popey | haha, i do that too | 11:08 |
| popey | which I have now moved to my server as "unsorted crap" | 11:08 |
| gordonjcp | heh | 11:14 |
| gordonjcp | yup, sounds familiar | 11:14 |
| gordonjcp | also, do you do that thing where you go "ah, I'll wipe this drive, but I'll just copy /home somewhere first..." | 11:15 |
| shauno | and then never touch 'oldhome' ever again | 11:15 |
| gordonjcp | only to find that its /home contains several layers of going "ah, I'll just copy /home..." | 11:15 |
| jacobw | morning | 11:22 |
| jacobw | i don't seem to have /home management problems | 11:23 |
| gordonjcp | I don't either | 11:23 |
| gordonjcp | I just have multiple backups | 11:24 |
| jacobw | i just acquire things and order them by title and date if i think i might want them again | 11:24 |
| jacobw | looking at moore's law on wikipedia, i now know who g. e. moore is | 11:26 |
| AlanBell | 131GB of virtualbox VMs | 11:30 |
| AlanBell | 20GB .thunderbird which is a bit more than I thought it would be | 11:31 |
| popey | yes gordonjcp | 11:33 |
| popey | drwx------ 1 root root 0 Apr 21 11:24 needs_sorting | 11:34 |
| dutchie | ooh AlanBell that looks tempting | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | SSD is quite hard to choose | 12:16 |
| cocoa117 | anyone know how to install kde-config package in ubuntu 11.10 64 bit? it appears in kde4 doesn't have kde-config anymore, it only exist in kde3 | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: I've ordered an Intel 330 120GB | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: because I like my current Intel 520 | 12:19 |
| AlanBell | cocoa117: tried the #kubuntu channel? | 12:22 |
| penguin42 | cocoa117: I can see there are still kde-config-whatever modules for individual bits | 12:47 |
| cocoa117 | penguin42, yes, but when actually run apt-get install, it doesn't have the package | 12:48 |
| penguin42 | cocoa117: apt-get install on which package? | 12:49 |
| cocoa117 | penguin42, sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a | 12:51 |
| cocoa117 | penguin42, i was first searching package content with kde-config, and it shows this package contain it | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | cocoa117: oh this is 11.10 - hmm, I've got 12.04 on here and we're upto kdelibs5 | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | cocoa117: I never used kde-config - what does it do? | 12:52 |
| cocoa117 | penguin42, i was compiling a package for Kaffeine, which in the ./configure it said it need kde-config | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | hmm not sure | 12:54 |
| ali1234 | trey kdelibs-bin | 12:55 |
| ali1234 | ~info kdelibs-bin oneiric | 12:55 |
| ali1234 | !info kdelibs-bin oneiric | 12:55 |
| lubotu3 | kdelibs-bin (source: kde4libs): core executables for KDE Applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1 (oneiric), package size 200 kB, installed size 936 kB | 12:56 |
| cocoa117 | ali1234, lubotu3, it have already installed and no kde-config found | 12:57 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| popey | afternoon | 13:41 |
| mgdm | 'ello | 13:41 |
| mgdm | popey: didn't know you were in Young Dracula! http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvs3lj1kex1qzuidpo3_500.jpg :P | 13:51 |
| mgdm | (see while channel surfing, obv...) | 13:51 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 13:51 |
| pr0ph3t | how can I remotely control my dad's ubuntu machine, considering he doesn't know much about computers? What's the easiest way? We are both behind routers and he wouldn't know how to forward a port | 13:52 |
| pr0ph3t | obviously I can try and explain to him step by step what to do | 13:53 |
| SuperEngineer | afternoon all | 15:25 |
| penguin42 | Hey Super | 15:25 |
| SuperEngineer | recently convinced a hardened Windows user [with all ingrained fears] to switch to "us" - the final convincincer was showing him there *is"* a graphical virus scanner if wanted. | 15:27 |
| * daubers shouts at copy dialogues | 15:29 | |
| SuperEngineer | - thought I'd run it on *my* 12.04 & guess what - picked upp up 2 suspicious files from a fooder I use as backup fpr works [windoze] docs | 15:29 |
| * SuperEngineer sniggers loud &good | 15:29 | |
| SuperEngineer | fooder? | 15:29 |
| SuperEngineer | please red folder | 15:30 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 15:30 |
| daubers | Silly thing. A copy dialogue has hidden itself and using the unity hoe folder icon (right click, show copy dialogue) doesn't bring it back | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | "hoe folder" | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | is that where you keep your adult themed pictures? | 15:31 |
| daubers | No, it's the one about garden tools :p | 15:31 |
| MartijnVdS | 8-) | 15:31 |
| SuperEngineer | darn - that was getting interesting | 15:32 |
| * SuperEngineer was calling out of window at humvees, "heya hoe folder" | 15:33 | |
| * SuperEngineer slps wrist | 15:33 | |
| MartijnVdS | ಠ_ಠ | 15:33 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Location_Protocol ? | 15:34 |
| SuperEngineer | Mari | 15:36 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 15:36 |
| SuperEngineer | [my version of "growl"] | 15:36 |
| SuperEngineer | [say it - it sounds good with animal brain switched on | 15:37 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS, what's dutch for "Marl"? | 15:38 |
| MartijnVdS | I have no idea | 15:38 |
| jacobw | the weather is just not good enough to sit in the park :( | 15:38 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: What is it in English? | 15:38 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: Just lower your standards a bit! :) | 15:38 |
| SuperEngineer | it's "Marl" | 15:38 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: Sure, but what category of things is it part of? | 15:39 |
| jacobw | this is trivial example of recursion | 15:39 |
| SuperEngineer | jacobw, you need to learn speed sun bathing - or cloud dodging - or hiding behind trees from wind! | 15:39 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: Going for a run always works for me -- I stop caring about rain after a few miles :) | 15:40 |
| SuperEngineer | jacobw, for recursion, see... | 15:40 |
| jacobw | i'm glad that it's brighter now than it was before the daylight saving switch | 15:40 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: According to Google Translate, "marl" is "mergel" which is a kind of stone | 15:41 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: Limburg is full of it (or used to be, anyway) | 15:41 |
| jacobw | i want to start running this summer | 15:41 |
| * SuperEngineer checks home for a "daylight saving switch" | 15:41 | |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: Running in summer is great, except for the 35°C-days | 15:41 |
| jacobw | i'll be living in rural bavaria, show it may one of few activities available on weekday evenings | 15:42 |
| jacobw | s/show/so | 15:42 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: Beer will be another :) | 15:42 |
| jacobw | :D | 15:42 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS, a kind of stoned sounds more fun - oh only I was younger | 15:42 |
| SuperEngineer | *if only | 15:43 |
| MartijnVdS | O..kay | 15:43 |
| jacobw | openwrt | 15:45 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ openwrt | 15:45 |
| czajkowski | c | 15:45 |
| SuperEngineer | Days away from 12.04 - I *know* I oughta delete my beta & reinstall... but after all that work, the bug hunts, the configuring to my exact liking ... | 15:46 |
| * SuperEngineer sulks | 15:47 | |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: why delete the beta? | 15:47 |
| jacobw | what is supported by openwrt that doess adsl? | 15:47 |
| SuperEngineer | half my brain keeps shouting "fresh start" | 15:47 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: look on their table of hardware page :) | 15:47 |
| jacobw | precise is frozen now | 15:48 |
| SuperEngineer | jacobw, yup - it's that cold *everywhere* - even in Ubutuland | 15:49 |
| * jacobw walks to bank | 15:50 | |
| SuperEngineer | when's the "point release"? | 15:51 |
| SuperEngineer | coz right now methinks it still abit buggy | 15:51 |
| AlanBell | in what way? | 15:52 |
| AlanBell | I know of a few | 15:52 |
| jacobw | every release-date+3months | 15:52 |
| jacobw | wrong | 15:52 |
| jacobw | every 6 months starting 3 months after the release date | 15:53 |
| SuperEngineer | AlanBell, not the main distro - the apps available | 15:53 |
| SuperEngineer | ...they still haven't caught u | 15:53 |
| SuperEngineer | up | 15:53 |
| AlanBell | well there is a bit of a slow restructuring to get "apps" in and updated through a different process altogether | 15:54 |
| * SuperEngineer kicks this dirty keyboard | 15:54 | |
| AlanBell | the apps review board is an attempt to do that but I am not sure how well it is going | 15:55 |
| SuperEngineer | yeh... that much I know - but I'm an optimist | 15:55 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 15:55 |
| * SuperEngineer hunts synaptic for "clean my darn keyboard" app - but none found :( | 15:56 | |
| * penguin42 hands SuperEngineer a screwdriver and brush | 15:57 | |
| * SuperEngineer hands SuperEngineer a virtual can of air duster... but you know... that old fable re the cobbler's shoes *does* hold true | 15:58 | |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 16:00 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Cobbler being one who repairs shoes, and the old fable is that the cobblers shoes are the worst | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | this explains why wifi at work sucks ;) | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | (I work at an ISP) | 16:01 |
| penguin42 | exactly | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | Also, why GPRS/3G reception is non-existent (building = owned KPN) | 16:01 |
| MartijnVdS | and why I had to cry tears of blood when a sysadmin(!) coworker upgraded his maverick box (to natty, oneiric, precise) and Nvidia drivers were broken | 16:03 |
| SuperEngineer | btw thanks penguin42 for explaination - was at kettle and coffee cup at the time | 16:03 |
| MartijnVdS | And he didn't understand unity | 16:03 |
| MartijnVdS | etc. | 16:03 |
| redcap | OK folks, I am after a little help on this one. I have Ubuntu Server which I am setting up as a test. I have a shared folder that several users can log into and permissions are set at RW for all users, however when a user saves a file to the folder it is locked to that user as the owner. I need anyone to be able to edit the file. All help is appreciated. | 16:08 |
| penguin42 | redcap: Add all your users who can edit to a group, then make sure all the files get owned by that group | 16:17 |
| penguin42 | and make sure they're group read/writeable | 16:18 |
| redcap | I created a group named linuxusers and added all the users. In the permissions for the target folder I added the group and set the permissions, but I have obviously missed something as any file seems to retain the authors permissions? | 16:24 |
| penguin42 | redcap: What does ls -l on the files show? | 16:28 |
| redcap | owner RW group R other R. I think I need to look at the group permissions again | 16:36 |
| penguin42 | redcap: Yeh so be careful about the umask | 16:41 |
| penguin42 | is it just me or is there now no way in G+ to browse photos in your circles albums? | 16:44 |
| redcap | permissions on the folder for the group seem to be set but it does not see to recursively (sp?) set the permissions for individual files saved there? | 16:45 |
| penguin42 | redcap: Correct, those perms get set when something creates them | 16:46 |
| penguin42 | redcap: how are your users writing to this folder? ftp? webdav? nfs? | 16:46 |
| dogmatic69 | files uploading to my server at a whopping 400bytes/s | 17:00 |
| dogmatic69 | 70kb/17mb 8 hours remaining \o/ | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | you using IP over avian carrier? | 17:00 |
| dogmatic69 | I swapped my router for a sponge | 17:01 |
| redcap | Chaps, thanks for your help, having set the folders permissions again, it seems to be working now. All the best. | 17:01 |
| dogmatic69 | oooh, up to 1kb/s now | 17:13 |
| dogmatic69 | ah, just figured out the problem. busy updating and its using all the bandwidth | 17:14 |
| dogmatic69 | 600mb update today :( | 17:14 |
| reaper4334 | Does anyone know how I can get a direct link to the ICQ for Linux download? | 17:19 |
| reaper4334 | The link on the page http://www.icq.com/download/linux/en doesn't seem to do anything, and it's a flash application so I can't just read the source to find the file location | 17:19 |
| gordonjcp | reaper4334: why not just use something like empathy? | 17:25 |
| reaper4334 | I tried Empathy and Pidgin, but neither seem to allow Group Chat with ICQ | 17:25 |
| SuperEngineer | ssshhhhh! | 19:18 |
| jacobw | evening | 20:27 |
| popey | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4OTk | 20:34 |
| popey | golly | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | good idea to release on a Thursday, Fridays are a bad day to release | 20:36 |
| daubers | bleh, spending the evening looking at uplighters is dull | 20:37 |
| penguin42 | ikea splurgle splurt uplighters? | 20:37 |
| popey | hope they do finally do steam for linux | 20:37 |
| daubers | penguin42: screwfix splurgle splurgle | 20:37 |
| popey | and some games | 20:37 |
| daubers | popey: Steam on linux would definatley be ftw | 20:37 |
| popey | see link above | 20:37 |
| hamitron | there is news on steam for linux? | 20:38 |
| popey | 21:34:12 < popey> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4OTk | 20:38 |
| popey | looks like there will be this week | 20:38 |
| hamitron | :D | 20:38 |
| bigcalm | popey: work in progress: https://github.com/bigcalm/irssi-proxy-backlog-monitor | 20:38 |
| hamitron | they should let someone embed wine too | 20:38 |
| bigcalm | Patches welcome (tm) | 20:39 |
| popey | heh | 20:39 |
| popey | does it work? | 20:39 |
| bigcalm | Current status: handles proxy client connect/disconnect. Starts recording backlog upon client disconnect. | 20:40 |
| bigcalm | Todo: send back log to proxy client upon reconnect | 20:40 |
| bigcalm | popey: partly :D | 20:40 |
| popey | heh | 20:40 |
| popey | do you need to record it? | 20:40 |
| popey | can't you just note the time? | 20:40 |
| popey | and spew from the log at them? | 20:41 |
| bigcalm | They might not have logging enabled | 20:41 |
| bigcalm | I know I don't | 20:41 |
| popey | hmm | 20:41 |
| bigcalm | But yes, that is a possible option instead of writing ones own logs | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | But it still leaves me needing to send conect to the proxy client | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | Not wroked that bit out yet | 20:42 |
| jacobw | i think many counter strike people are linux people | 20:44 |
| penguin42 | should give the graphics driver guys some good testing :-) | 20:46 |
| jacobw | ha | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: Some packages really need very very extensive testing! | 20:47 |
| hamitron | jacobw, doesn't the fact many on linux can already play games, mean it is a waste of resources porting steam and games? | 20:47 |
| hamitron | :/ | 20:47 |
| jacobw | i don't think so | 20:48 |
| hamitron | hope not | 20:49 |
| hamitron | :) | 20:49 |
| jacobw | people who use linux and play games will be happier if they do both of those things together | 20:50 |
| hamitron | ofc | 20:50 |
| hamitron | but it may not mean so many extra sales | 20:50 |
| jacobw | linux people make other people like the things that they like | 20:50 |
| penguin42 | hamitron: It might, it might be worth a try though - although they'll have to also deal with different support as well; having said that I bet a lot of the guys who write it are Linux guys anyway | 20:51 |
| jacobw | if linux people like steam, then linux people will make other people like steam, which is good for valve and people who like their games | 20:51 |
| jacobw | :D | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | whoa.. big train crash | 20:51 |
| jacobw | i.e. me | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | 136 wounded | 20:52 |
| hamitron | where? | 20:52 |
| jacobw | amsterdam | 20:54 |
| jacobw | head on :o | 20:54 |
| hamitron | ah, ok | 20:54 |
| hamitron | well, not ok obviously | 20:54 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 20:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Head-on collision | 20:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Wonder how that happened... | 20:58 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe the new Siemens train (the white one) still had software problems after all (making it possible to cross a red signal) | 20:59 |
| hamitron | or maybe the signal couldn't be seen easy | 21:00 |
| mgdm | there's far more to it than seeing signals | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | then the train stops | 21:00 |
| mgdm | all kinds of interlocks | 21:00 |
| hamitron | or maybe the wrong type of rain caused a junction to act weird | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | The "transport safety council" has opened an investigation | 21:01 |
| MartijnVdS | we'll see | 21:01 |
| hamitron | :) | 21:01 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17799940 | 21:14 |
| brobostigon | one flew over cuckoo's nest, interesting film. | 21:18 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Old film. | 21:19 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 21:19 |
| brobostigon | 75. | 21:20 |
| zleap | is thsat got jack nicolson in it | 21:20 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Did anybody watch El Clásico? | 21:20 |
| brobostigon | zleap: yes. | 21:20 |
| zleap | we watched that at school | 21:23 |
| zleap | that | 21:23 |
| zleap | grr | 21:23 |
| jacobw | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-in-uproar-over-oral-sex-antismoking-posters-1908559.html | 21:38 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: 2 years ago | 21:40 |
| MartijnVdS | WEDNESDAY 24 FEBRUARY 2010 | 21:41 |
| jacobw | google news | 21:41 |
| jacobw | actually i can't remember how i got there | 21:41 |
| jacobw | it started with google news | 21:41 |
| jacobw | i see, google news links to the independent which links to facebook which links to the most popular stories from the independent on facebook at this time | 21:43 |
| jacobw | simples :D | 21:43 |
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