| === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine | ||
| === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine | ||
| === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine | ||
| Andy80 | if Xorg crashes without giving you any error messages on screen and takes you back to the login screen, how/where can I look to understand why is this happening? I suppose a bug on the nvidia driver (bug already reported) but I'd like to understand better... | 11:06 |
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| Andy80 | crashed again :\ | 11:36 |
| * jussi waves to Andy80 | 12:26 | |
| Andy80 | jussi: hi :D | 12:30 |
| jussi | Andy80: long time no speak :) | 12:30 |
| Andy80 | jussi: yeah, how are you? Are we catching up at UDS? | 12:32 |
| jussi | Andy80: no, not this time :( | 12:32 |
| jussi | Andy80: busy busy busy with my 3 month old daughter | 12:33 |
| jussi | anyways, Im off to get candy from the shop... :P | 12:34 |
| Andy80 | ;) | 12:34 |
| Andy80 | I'm here busy with a Xorg that keep crashing and I don't know how to detect why :( damn it! | 12:35 |
| mhall119 | jussi: a bit young for candy isn't she? | 17:42 |
| jussi | mhall119: my wife? no :P | 17:45 |
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| bronzdragon | Hey, Im having a problem with LightDM acting up on boot. | 21:06 |
| bronzdragon | When I boot up, LightDM doesnt start. Running LightDM restart lets me launch gnome. | 21:06 |
| bronzdragon | Any guesses as to why LightDM fails on boot, but without changing anything, a restart fixes it? Im assuming its reading from some other config when being run by me than when being run on boot? Would that make sense? | 21:06 |
| JanC | bronzdragon: does lightdm start and fail or does it not start at all? | 21:11 |
| bronzdragon | Im not quite sure. It says in the output it starts | 21:13 |
| JanC | in what output? | 21:13 |
| bronzdragon | But its not followed up by any graphics or a message saying it stops. While every other DM starts and stop | 21:14 |
| bronzdragon | Boot output | 21:14 |
| JanC | eh, if this is Ubuntu, normally there should be no "boot output" AFAIK? | 21:15 |
| bronzdragon | Yes, that is correct. I dont get the usual boot messages, but since something fails, I get more messa-- oh wiat, thats the Xorg output I believe, rather than boot messages. Its the first text I see on screen after a boot. | 21:16 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: are you sure it doesn't start? have you check /var/log/lightdm/ for logs? | 21:16 |
| JanC | anyway, if it says it starts, it probably at least tries to start, so it's not a problem with the upstart job | 21:17 |
| bronzdragon | Like I said, it says it starts, but I cant see anything. And it doesnt compalin when I restart it, so I assume it is running. But Ill look at lightdm logs now. Should I pastebin them? | 21:17 |
| JanC | bronzdragon: did you try switching to other virtual consoles with Alt+Fn? | 21:19 |
| bronzdragon | Yes, that works. Thats where I run lightdm restart, to have it restart and then work perfectly | 21:19 |
| JanC | but did you try finding LightDM on one of them? | 21:19 |
| bronzdragon | http://pastebin.com/gqb8p9Sr | 21:20 |
| bronzdragon | Could you rephrase that? | 21:20 |
| bronzdragon | Are you asking if its running anywhere but 7? | 21:20 |
| JanC | or you didn't get switched to 7 | 21:21 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: this one isn't really helpful, specially given that you've restarted lightdm so it's a log of a working session | 21:21 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: check x*log for errors | 21:21 |
| bronzdragon | When I restart, I get switched to 7 which is where it restarts. | 21:21 |
| bronzdragon | Right, yes | 21:21 |
| bronzdragon | Which one of them? There is x0/greeter and x1/greeter | 21:22 |
| JanC | seems like there is an *.old log too? | 21:22 |
| kklimonda | yeah, check their timestamps | 21:23 |
| bronzdragon | No .olds | 21:23 |
| bronzdragon | Do you wanna see the earlist? | 21:24 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: the earliest from this session? | 21:24 |
| kklimonda | on my machine some of those logs go back to november ;) | 21:25 |
| bronzdragon | They all have the same time stamp. But Ill assume the ls -l orders them by seconds too, even though it only tells me minutes. | 21:25 |
| JanC | kklimonda: I just removed one huge one from November actually ;) | 21:25 |
| bronzdragon | Oh wait nvm, its ordered by name. Im being silly | 21:25 |
| bronzdragon | -rw------- 1 root root 5338 2012-04-20 17:56 lightdm.log | 21:26 |
| bronzdragon | -rw------- 1 root root 7585 2012-04-20 17:56 x-0-greeter.log | 21:26 |
| bronzdragon | -rw------- 1 root root 1034 2012-04-20 17:56 x-0.log | 21:26 |
| bronzdragon | -rw------- 1 root root 10480 2012-04-15 22:22 x-1-greeter.log | 21:26 |
| bronzdragon | -rw------- 1 root root 1061 2012-04-15 22:36 x-1.log | 21:26 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: paste x-0.log | 21:27 |
| bronzdragon | `sir! | 21:27 |
| * kklimonda is surprised there are no .log.old files | 21:27 | |
| JanC | in pastebin! ☺ | 21:27 |
| bronzdragon | http://pastebin.com/ncmtjTE7 | 21:27 |
| bronzdragon | Sorry, figured 5 lines would be fine in here. | 21:27 |
| kklimonda | heh, there is nothing there | 21:28 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: can you reboot, wait for lightdm to fail to start and copy the content of /var/log/lightdm/ somewhere safe? | 21:28 |
| bronzdragon | Oh yeah, sure. Gimme a minute then. | 21:29 |
| bronzdragon | Hello again! | 21:47 |
| bronzdragon | Sorry about taking forever | 21:47 |
| bronzdragon | I was dumb. Twice | 21:47 |
| bronzdragon | Archive or pastebins? | 21:48 |
| kklimonda | pastebins should be faster | 21:48 |
| bronzdragon | http://pastebin.com/FfquUgCt | 21:48 |
| bronzdragon | Lightdm.log | 21:49 |
| bronzdragon | Oh this one has a bunch of errors! Nice | 21:49 |
| bronzdragon | http://pastebin.com/vwNuPTPE | 21:49 |
| bronzdragon | This is 0-greeter. Are the rest of any interest? http://pastebin.com/3kE8s5gn | 21:50 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: bug 873495 | 21:53 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 873495 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "LightDM fails to start when installed in OEM mode after nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates are installed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873495 | 21:53 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: are you running 11.10 or 12.04? | 21:53 |
| bronzdragon | Whats the command for finding out? | 21:53 |
| kklimonda | lsb_release -a | 21:53 |
| bronzdragon | 11.10 | 21:54 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: ok, can you test kernel from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/873495/comments/17 and report back (to the bug report, not here) if it's fixed the issue? | 21:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 873495 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "LightDM fails to start when installed in OEM mode after nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates are installed" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:55 |
| kklimonda | well, you can also say here, but bug report is more important :) | 21:55 |
| bronzdragon | Thats the only suggested fix? | 21:56 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: well, one of the comments suggests that it's a kernel issue | 21:56 |
| kklimonda | the patches look.. unrelated, at least their names | 21:56 |
| bronzdragon | His fix points at the newer kernel version than what Ubuntu has | 21:57 |
| kklimonda | bronzdragon: the work around is for lightdm to wait few seconds before starting | 21:57 |
| bronzdragon | Is that a problem? | 21:57 |
| kklimonda | the problem is a race condition between nvidia module creating /dev/nvidiactl and lightdm starting | 21:57 |
| bronzdragon | I see. That makes sense. Since restarting LightDM magically fixes it | 21:58 |
| kklimonda | the workaround is to delay starting lightdm in hope that by doing this we give nvidia enough time to create the file | 21:58 |
| bronzdragon | How do I make it stall? | 21:58 |
| kklimonda | edit /etc/init/lightdm.conf | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | add | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | pre-start script | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | sleep 2 | 21:59 |
| bronzdragon | Thank you] | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | end script | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | but testing the kernel would make it possible to fix the actual bug ;) | 21:59 |
| bronzdragon | Does it matter where it goes? If so, where? | 22:00 |
| bronzdragon | Before "start on"? | 22:01 |
| kklimonda | before script | 22:01 |
| kklimonda | after emits | 22:01 |
| bronzdragon | Thank you again. Ill try this. Also try with the patched kernel and see if that helps | 22:02 |
| kklimonda | dont forget revert changes before testing the kernel | 22:02 |
| bronzdragon | Im not gonna do it natively. Gonna try in a VM. | 22:03 |
| kklimonda | it's not going to happen in VM | 22:03 |
| kklimonda | the problem is nvidia driver | 22:03 |
| bronzdragon | Gonna use this exact compu-- oh right yes | 22:03 |
| kklimonda | in VM your gpu is virtualized and it won't be using the same nvidia module | 22:03 |
| bronzdragon | Gonna try it natively then... =P | 22:03 |
| bronzdragon | Ill remove the line before testing | 22:03 |
| kklimonda | you can easily switch between kernels at the boot time | 22:04 |
| kklimonda | by pressing left shift | 22:04 |
| bronzdragon | Yup, thanks | 22:04 |
| bronzdragon | well see you around | 22:04 |
| JanC | heh, nvidia binary v | 22:17 |
| JanC | heh, nvidia binary blob starts too slow? ;) | 22:18 |
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