[00:00] <bkerensa> nathwill: we need to road trip to Mexico and outsource our problem :P
[00:00] <nathwill> nafta baby
[00:00] <nathwill> knew it was good for somethign
[00:00] <nathwill> wow my fingers are retarded today
[00:00] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Memorex+-+CD/DVD+LabelMaker+Expert+Kit/6882153.p;jsessionid=CA3E38BE9CC2C51677B923BAC37B97D6.bbolsp-app01-21?id=1095432401805&skuId=6882153
[00:00] <orebuntu_> bkerensa's tiny URL is http://tinyurl.com/7b9zxwd
[00:01] <bkerensa> if we could find something like that but that uses Nix
[00:01] <bkerensa> that would be great
[00:01] <bkerensa> and cost effective
[00:01] <nathwill> well there's already great cd-cover graphic designing software on nix
[00:02] <nathwill> the trick is: a) burner w/ master and several replicators, and b) a press that doesn't suck
[00:02] <nathwill> a is wicked expensive
[00:07] <bkerensa> nathwill: what if we crowd funded it?
[00:07] <bkerensa> we have 100 members
[00:07] <nathwill> yeah...
[00:07] <bkerensa> if everyone chipped in it might make it easier idk
[00:08] <nathwill> hey folks, can you bring a couple cds
[00:08] <nathwill> i dunno what that would accomplish though
[00:08] <nathwill> it's mostly members who're interested in cds?
[00:08] <bkerensa> no I mean crowd fund a replication tower and label maker
[00:08] <nathwill> except for the events, like oscon
[00:08] <nathwill> oh
[00:08] <nathwill> well...
[00:08] <nathwill> when can we apply for membership again?
[00:08] <nathwill> i think that's a better fix
[00:08] <bkerensa> nathwill: thats a good question because reviewing their irc logs they said a few months during discussion but when they voted they said 6+
[00:09] <nathwill> hrm...
[00:09] <bkerensa> which is imho ridiculous because I think we were given a unfair shake
[00:09] <nathwill> this is how often they do loco membership reviews?
[00:09] <nathwill> circa 6 mo. cycle?
[00:09] <bkerensa> yeah
[00:09] <bkerensa> likely they want us to wait a entire cycle
[00:09] <bkerensa> or more
[00:13] <bkerensa> nathwill: as it is PSU alone seems like they could get 100 CD's out per cycle
[00:13] <nathwill> i think...
[00:14] <nathwill> i'm emailing myself the link to the approval criteria
[00:14] <nathwill> and i will go through it tonite
[00:14] <nathwill> because my initial impression is that we meet the revised criteria
[00:14] <bkerensa> nathwill: Yes
[00:14] <bkerensa> We meet the revised and honestly met the old criteria
[00:15] <nathwill> alright... lemme see what i can figure out tonite... i'll jam with you on it some once i get home and eat some dinner'
[00:15] <nathwill> deener
[00:19] <bkerensa> no doubt
[00:19] <bkerensa> thanks
[00:39] <bkerensa> slangasek: I was not aware Canonical waived shipping cost on CD's that is pretty nice
[00:40] <bkerensa> oh because they are pre-order only right now
[00:44] <slangasek> well, the pre-order status and the free shipping are unrelated
[00:44] <bkerensa> Hmm thats really cool indeed then
[00:44] <bkerensa> :D
[00:45] <bkerensa> Wish free shipping for all things :P
[00:46] <slangasek> so once you start adding in label printing, sleeves, wear'n'tear on the CD burner, I think you're going to be hard-pressed to beat that price
[00:48] <bkerensa> :)
[00:48] <bkerensa> slangasek: Yes but who's price is it to pay ;)
[00:48] <slangasek> hmm?
[00:48]  * bkerensa is not going to pay $200 :)
[00:49] <bkerensa> maybe I would contribute $50
[00:49] <bkerensa> :P
[00:49] <slangasek> that's fair, I wouldn't pay $200 either ;)
[00:49] <slangasek> I thought the community team was showering you with CDs anyway?
[00:50] <bkerensa> slangasek: well we only had the 11.10's and I got the rest of those out to PSU because they burned through them fast
[00:50] <slangasek> sure
[00:50] <bkerensa> slangasek: I could beg Jono or jcastro for a box of 12.04 but I am not sure its going to work :P
[00:50] <slangasek> it might, I don't know
[00:57] <nathwill> alright, shift's over. catch y'all later!
[01:01] <c_smith> heyo
[01:01]  * c_smith is here at the Ubuntu hour, JVLB isn't going to show up, car problems for him.
[01:09] <c_smith> hmmmmm, kinda dead here.
[01:18] <bkerensa> c_smith: its always dead here :)
[01:19] <bkerensa> The nature of developers and geeks :) busy at work
[01:19] <bkerensa> plus it is Friday evening so most people are out to dinner or drinks or with their family
[01:21] <c_smith> true.
[01:37] <c_smith> bkerensa, I have been told that I might be getting a few servers (the guy got a building that supposedly had them in there, and he doesn't need them) would a machine like that be suitable for making a CLI only Media Server?
[01:37] <c_smith> if a CLI only Media server exists, that is.
[01:47] <bkerensa> c_smith: You do not need GUI for a media server
[01:48] <c_smith> ??? I never said GUI.
[01:48] <bkerensa> c_smith: but at the same thing I hope you are prepared for the electric costs associated with running a server at home :)
[01:48] <c_smith> CLI, Command Line Interface.
[01:48] <bkerensa> and potentially blowing a breaker if you have to much amps on a circuit
[01:48] <c_smith> eh, My proctor parents aren't even happy leaving lights on in a room a person is returning to in less than 30 seconds.
[01:49] <bkerensa> c_smith: Correct you asked if a CLI only media server exists and I said you do not need GUI for a Media Server hence yes CLI is possible
[01:49] <bkerensa> Servers in general are not meant to have gui
[01:49] <c_smith> so I may end up just salvaging parts from said servers.
[01:49]  * c_smith wonders if certain parts of a server can be implanted into a Desktop PC
[01:49] <bkerensa> c_smith: I am not totally sure how much it would cost but I would bet about $25 a month extra just in electric
[01:50] <bkerensa> and during the summer whatever room its in would be very uncomfortable
[01:51] <bkerensa> c_smith: depends what kind of server? They do make servers in a tower form factor
[01:51] <bkerensa> in fact a tower form factor server probably wouldnt ding you too bad on electric
[01:51] <c_smith> eh, servers to me would be unusable due to very very finicky people when it comes to cost controlling the electricity.
[01:51] <bkerensa> but if your going to move a 1U into your bedroom expect lots of heat and a new found love on your power bill :)
[01:52] <c_smith> I don't control my power bill, so like I said, servers would end up being unusable.
[01:52] <sbeattie> and noise
[01:52] <c_smith> and the guy in charge wakes up really easily.
[01:53] <bkerensa> sbeattie: yeah :)
[01:53] <bkerensa> a nice constant hum
[01:53] <c_smith> all of the downsides you are mentioning point to the guy ending up shutting it off before the first week is over.
[01:53] <bkerensa> c_smith: What is the latest you can do a Ubuntu Hour at night?
[01:53] <bkerensa> When I get back from UDS I was thinking about driving down for a Salem Ubuntu Hour but there is no way I could be there by 6pm
[01:53] <sbeattie> bkerensa: as an ex-sysadmin, one of the most frightening sounds I've ever heard was our server room completely silent because of a power outage.
[01:54] <c_smith> The latest? probably 7AM and ending a 8PM, maybe later if I get it okayed.
[01:54] <bkerensa> the earliest I think I could be to Salem is 8pm firm
[01:54] <c_smith> Let me call someone to see if that is doable.
[01:54] <bkerensa> sbeattie: Yeah I have worked in dc's and was a sysadmin for my school district after high school
[01:54] <bkerensa> :D
[01:55] <c_smith> hopefully I get an answer.
[01:56] <c_smith> if they even pick up the phone. >.>
[01:56] <c_smith> aaaandd.... no answer, dod
[01:56] <c_smith> didn't even pick up the phone. >.<
[01:56] <c_smith> curse this enter key.
[02:01] <c_smith> bkerensa, I got an answer, not a 100% for sure one, but the answer I got was it is possible, but I will have a 100% certain answer tomorrow, do you want me to email you then?
[02:04] <c_smith> bkerensa, I'll have an answer tomorrow, do you want me to shoot you an email then?
[02:04] <bkerensa> yes
[02:04]  * bkerensa is gone for dinner
[02:04] <c_smith> kk,
[02:04] <c_smith> then I'm out, cya,.
[02:44] <nathwill> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#A12.04_artwork
[15:38] <TRAVISg> where is the best place to get .iso file of newest 12.04
[15:39] <TRAVISg> was thinking of trying a new install an this machine again.
[15:39] <TRAVISg> right now it is playing havoc with dual monitors...pretty much unusable
[16:00] <sbeattie> TRAVISg: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ has the daily images
[16:00] <TRAVISg> thanks