[00:17] <GridCube> :D
[00:17] <GridCube> Linux gridcube-Intel-powered-classmate-PC 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:41:14 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[00:18] <GridCube> but i kind of forgot about deleting all the . starting folders on my /home and now everything looks wrong :D
[00:21] <GridCube> oh... thunar bug stills there :(
[00:21] <Unit193> Do you use gvfs?
[00:21] <Unit193> (Remove file systems)
[00:22] <Unit193> s/move/mote/
[00:23] <GridCube> no
[00:23] <GridCube> i dont 
[00:23] <Unit193> sudo apt-get purge gvfs-backends
[00:24] <GridCube> mmkay
[00:50] <GridCube> :)
[01:44] <GridCube> has something changed with apt-get?
[01:44] <GridCube> i cant autocomplete with tab...
[01:44] <GridCube> :/
[01:45] <GridCube> i cant autocomplete anything if i start with sudo or gksu
[01:45] <GridCube> this is new...
[08:23] <Saurabh_123> will xubuntu 12.04 be supported for 3 or 5 years?
[08:27] <baizon> Saurabh_123: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu#Releases
[08:31] <Saurabh_123> does LTS release include only security updates?
[08:32] <Saurabh_123> or software updates also?
[08:34] <Saurabh_123> ?
[08:36] <astraljava> Saurabh_123: No new feature releases, just important bugfixes. Some new features may be requested through backports, though.
[08:37] <Saurabh_123> ok
[10:15] <knome> anybody know the status of "adopt an iso" for xubuntu?
[10:19] <astraljava> I know I should be gone already, but I'll fill in a definitive 'no'. But I'll find out, I need to do some testing-related tasks when I get back.
[10:19] <knome> ok, thanks
[10:19] <knome> i just tweeted too
[10:22] <astraljava> I'll ask balloons on -testing now, he had been contacted by a few Xubuntu testers.
[10:22] <knome> k, great
[10:23] <knome> why do i start to think about testing always when my neck/head hurts? :(
[10:23] <knome> or does it go the other way aroung
[10:23] <knome> *around
[10:23] <astraljava> ...except he's not online, probably enjoying his weekend. Some people, only come in here when they get paid. *grin*
[10:23] <knome> heh, yah
[10:23] <astraljava> It's probably the other way around.
[10:23] <astraljava> 'k, I'm gone for a bit now.
[10:23] <knome> see you
[11:53] <ochosi> knome: look here: http://imagebin.org/209051
[11:53] <ochosi> knome: my conclusion is that we can't improve the current situation by much, but what definitely makes sense is adding a shadow to the font
[12:54] <knome> ochosi, really? what about doing a 60% alpha version with no shadow?
[12:54] <knome> btw, nice comparison!
[12:55] <ochosi> why would you do no textshadow?
[12:55] <ochosi> thanks
[12:55] <ochosi> i think that comparison clarifies a lot
[12:55] <knome> i think it might improve the text readability on the rightmost items
[12:55] <ochosi> it also silenced the people who shouted "alpha0%" the loudest on g+
[12:55] <knome> :P
[12:56] <ochosi> not sure it would improve readability of the other ones though
[12:56] <ochosi> but i could do another screenshot with it later
[12:56] <knome> probably not, but isn't the lightest backgrounds where our problems are:)
[12:58] <ochosi> we should check what the default alpha is
[12:59] <ochosi> ok, this might be solvable after all, see all the hidden properties here: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/tree/src/xfdesktop-icon-view.c#n475
[13:00] <ochosi> i'll have to test/investigate more i guess...
[13:06] <ochosi> haha, i can combine two shadows :)
[13:06] <ochosi> what a hack :D
[13:07] <ochosi> >http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04212012-030654pm.php
[13:07] <knome> EWW!
[13:07] <ochosi> since i can tweak the shadow-color freely this might actually work
[13:08] <ochosi> this is already a lot better: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04212012-030759pm.php
[13:08] <knome> my head still hurts
[13:08] <knome> could you make the text bold?
[13:08] <ochosi> i guess i could
[13:09] <knome> that might work better than these weird experiments
[13:09] <ochosi> this could work: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04212012-030918pm.php
[13:09] <knome> yes, much better
[13:09] <knome> then otoh...
[13:09] <knome> how much does this improve the current situation
[13:10] <ochosi> well we can then drop the label-alpha to 0
[13:10] <knome> can we?
[13:10] <knome> :P
[13:10] <mr_pouit> (meh)
[13:10] <ochosi> yes: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04212012-031043pm.php
[13:11] <ochosi> anyway, i'm off for now
[13:11] <knome> mmh, that's not bad
[13:11] <ochosi> i'll play with this later
[13:11] <knome> maybe enable it for selected items
[13:11] <ochosi> enable what?
[13:11] <ochosi> the label alpha?
[13:11] <knome> the box
[13:11] <ochosi> yes, that's how it currently works
[13:11] <knome> k
[17:12] <|Chilled|> Will 12.10 be based on Debian?
[17:14] <|Chilled|> Hello?
[17:35] <inabox_> Is artwork still being accepted? For 12.10?
[18:30] <astraljava> knome: Have you been pushing out misleading news as April Fools' again?
[18:30] <astraljava> Those were some seriously confusing questions right ther.
[18:30] <astraljava> +e
[20:14]  * astraljava awaits for the complaining to commence...
[20:15] <GridCube> about?
[20:16] <astraljava> You'll see it on the mailing lists.
[20:17] <Unit193> astraljava: You little dirtbag!
[20:17] <GridCube> im running prerealase now :D
[20:18] <astraljava> I just figured I'd make the relationship a little more known, and thought here was a good spot for that. :)
[20:18] <GridCube> astraljava, thats just testing protocols there
[20:18] <astraljava> I know, I'll be flamed for it, but I think I can handle it. :)
[20:19] <GridCube> don't see why
[20:19] <astraljava> cross-posting is a huge no-no for some people.
[20:20] <GridCube> oh
[20:22] <Unit193> Yeah, but for me that's more with support questions on IRC. (And I hadn't seen the email yet, just figured that's my que)
[20:25] <astraljava> Yep. And I believe in this case, it's not that bad. The projects are pretty intertwined in some cases.
[20:28] <Unit193> No kidding, I've even thought about joining their channels, but...
[20:28] <Unit193> Looks as if I'm already synced up, and good to go.
[20:30] <Unit193> astraljava: Know what alt and desktop installs you want?
[20:33] <astraljava> Unit193: No, not yet. I'll do a follow-up a little later, when some tests have been run already. For now, anything will do. Thanks!