[00:41] <wifioregon> hi, I'm installing the new beta ubuntu...was wondering is the current beta pretty much the exact same thing as the stable release that comes out Thursday?
[00:43] <jbicha> wifioregon: no, the stable release has an extra month worth of bugfixes, but if you install the updates in Update Manager, you'll get the same thing
[01:44] <Bugfunder> Anyone know how to install Edubuntu on a Raid 1?
[01:45] <Bugfunder> (or just 2 disks of the same size, making them a RAID1).
[07:33] <nazo> hey, i was wondering if there where any channels related to the linux terminal, and/or the coding for it?
[07:37] <nazo> preferably one in english..
[07:42] <alkisg> nazo: do you mean that you want a shell programming tutorial?
[07:43] <alkisg> If you google for those 3 words, I'm sure plenty will come up
[07:43] <alkisg> An IRC channel releated to shell programming is #bash
[07:46] <nazo> what exactly is shell programming? im a bit new, thus my terminology is a bit non-existant in this area
[07:47] <alkisg> The linux terminal has a prompt, e.g. alkisg@my-pc:~$
[07:47] <alkisg> If you run commands there, e.g. `ls`, they are executed by a program called a "shell"
[07:47] <alkisg> So if that's what you're asking, then just google for a "shell tutorial"
[07:48] <alkisg> It'll teach you the basic commands first, and then its scripting language
[07:49] <nazo> ah ok thanks, and you said #bash would be a good discussion room (to increase my knowledge)
[07:49] <alkisg>  #bash is for more advanced users usually, but sure, ask there as well
[07:49] <nazo> thanksagain
[19:22] <jbicha> stgraber: do you run GNOME Classic?
[19:44] <jbicha> well anyway I'm interested in re-enabling the Ubuntu logo for the Applications menu in gnome-panel and since Edubuntu is the only flavor using it...
[22:19] <stgraber> jbicha: I'm not running it myself (as I'm not an Edubuntu user, just a developer) but I know quite a few Edubuntu deployments will use gnome classic
[22:20] <stgraber> jbicha: I'd be happy to have the distributor logo back in the panel
[22:21] <stgraber> from what I heard of our users and looking at that mailing-list thread on it, I think there's value in offering a classic ubuntu experience using the gnome fallback/classic session
[22:21] <stgraber> now whether that should be a separate session entirely is what needs to be discussed
[22:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: ^
[22:35] <stgraber> highvoltage, jbicha: commented in the bug. It basically looks like no-go for 12.04 release (because of light-themes + gtk rebuild and a lot of images being affected by that), but I'm not saying no to getting this in as SRU.
[22:36] <stgraber> I can't remember of a precedent on getting a desktop UI freeze exception post-release, but I don't think we have an explicit policy against it and it should be a very small change making the UI quite a bit nicer.
[22:38] <jbicha> I'm trying to come up with creative ways to break as many freezes as possible ;)
[22:38] <stgraber> ;)