[00:00] if you're on ati you probably should use the radeon driver [00:00] ya but i can tell that my graphics card is not working its hardest [00:00] bjsnider, i am trying to. [00:00] what's wrong with it? [00:01] bjsnider, nothing. it is just not working its hardest [00:01] how can you tell [00:01] no idea what that means [00:01] jeremiah_, works hard, but no hard enought :) [00:02] what card you have? [00:02] exactly. [00:02] one everyone hates [00:02] ATi ? [00:02] jeremiah_: glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version' [00:02] ati radeon [00:02] model ? [00:03] not sure... [00:05] jeremiah_, did jockey dound it? [00:06] no [00:07] https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [00:07] use this [00:08] use what on it? [00:09] don;t u know how to add repos? [00:10] no [00:11] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa [00:11] hi all , how do I run something in rc.local in precise ? It seem like precise's startup system is ignoring rc.local [00:12] but before you do this do sudo apt-get install ppa-purge [00:13] after you do this run sudp apt-get upgrade [00:13] sudo* [00:13] and try again jockey [00:14] if ur system is unstable or something, run sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa [00:14] and sudo apt-get upgrade [00:15] basically this ppa, will install you the latest xorg and drivers [00:15] but it could be unstable [00:15] so with sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa you unistall it [00:16] ok. hang on. working on it... [00:17] good luck :) [00:18] where is there any documentation on precise's boot sequence on the desktop ? It is ignoring my rc.local entry [00:26] there still is nothing in there [00:27] alexisd, there is still nothing there [00:28] jeremiah_, you use ubuntu 12.04 and you sure have ATi ? [00:28] yes. but do you want to give me a command to make sure? [00:29] for driver [00:29] err graphics card [00:30] glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version' [00:30] X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) [00:31] lol [00:31] glxinfo ? [00:31] aa ok [00:31] w8 [00:31] so da command?? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:32] jeremiah_, open software center [00:33] ok [00:33] ... [00:33] write on search ATi [00:34] it should show you the drivers to install [00:34] but be sure you have ATi :) [00:34] it should say something like ATi binary xorg drivers or something [00:35] ATI binary X.Org driver? i have it.. [00:35] install it [00:35] you have a new pc or old ? [00:35] it is installed. [00:35] I see [00:35] so whats the problem ? [00:35] uh.... medium rare [00:36] what ? [00:36] I would like to be able to change the graphics and stuff. and my laptop is medium new old. [00:37] can you find catalyst center on ur programs? [00:38] in software center? i have one of them... [00:38] I mean on installed programs [00:38] you have unity ? [00:38] idontknow [00:38] haha is ur first ubuntu installation ? [00:40] no. 7th. linux has died for me many times and that is why i want to get a graphics driver, someone said that could be the problem. [00:41] jeremiah_, you're trying to set the effects, correct? [00:41] sudo apt-get install glxinfo [00:41] Belial`, I guess he hasnt 3d accel [00:41] ah [00:41] Belial`, yes [00:42] Belial`, you have ATi ? [00:42] no, but try this real quick, jeremiah_ [00:43] invoke the dash by pressing the "super" key. [00:43] (the key with the windows logo) [00:43] then type in "drivers" [00:43] i'm assuming he's unity 2d of course... [00:45] next... [00:45] ok, click on additional drivers [00:45] let it search for the drivers, might take a sec. [00:45] it has none. [00:45] what kind of card is it? [00:46] what kind of ati, rather [00:46] no proprietary drivers are in use on this system [00:46] redion [00:46] open the dash once more [00:46] type in "information" then click on "details" [00:47] go to graphics and tell me what it says. [00:47] unknown [00:47] that's odd. [00:47] this was a windows lappy till the hdd was removed [00:47] do you know which radeon card it is? [00:48] and i didn't want to spend $300plus on windows. [00:48] I do not know [00:48] open a terminal and type "lspci" [00:49] paste what the VGA controller line says. [00:49] ahhh thats what the command was that i was looking for all day! [00:49] VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300] [00:50] that's odd because the opensource driver should be working fine for you. [00:50] you'd need to install mesa-demos for the Details panel to show your graphics card, that's bug 914631 [00:50] Launchpad bug 914631 in mesa-demos (Ubuntu) "[mir] mesa-demos" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914631 [00:50] it never had in the last 6 linuxes i had [00:50] ah, ok jbicha [00:50] command... [00:50] jeremiah_: When you say it dies on you - how does it fail? [00:50] it stops booting. [00:51] at what point? [00:51] *mesa-utils [00:51] after it freezes a hole bunch. 4 new hdds were tested. [00:51] *mesa-utils: command not found [00:52] jeremiah_, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils [00:53] jeremiah_: When does it say that? [00:53] pray this works. [00:53] i think i already had it... [00:53] it'll tell you if it's already installed [00:54] mesa-utils is already the newest version. [00:54] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 593 not upgraded. [00:54] it also said that [00:54] ok, here's the next question... [00:55] at the login screen, is "ubuntu" selected or something else? [00:55] ??? [00:55] if you have 2d selected, that could be the problem. [00:55] oh. on the gear? [00:55] yes [00:55] ya. it is ubuntu. [00:57] thing is, it should never complain about mesa-utils if the 3d driver is broken or not - so something else is going on [00:59] so... [01:05] jeremiah_, did u installed glxinfo ? [01:05] if someone told me to, yes. [01:06] then try again [01:06] glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version' [01:08] X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) [01:08] on login screen you can login on ubuntu (not ubuntu 2d) ? [01:09] it is on ubuntu [01:10] that means that you have 3d accel [01:11] i guess. [01:13] well [01:13] you might want to try ati from official site [01:14] i did. [01:14] well I have no clue [01:14] you can try gnome-shell [01:14] maybe that works [01:14] but, i didn't know which one... [01:15] and do i run it with wine, or do i get the one for linux? [01:16] your 3d is working already, i think you should probably just declare victory [01:17] ya, but why did my previus linuxes freeze? [01:17] yes till the next boot that the whole box will hang :) [01:18] the open source drivers are usually much more stable than the binary drivers [01:18] hey jeremiah, search for the catalyst drivers in the software center [01:19] so if you installed the binary drivers in your previous linuxes, be thankful that some OSS programmer made that unnecessary i guess [01:19] i didn't. [01:19] mcdonc, open are quite slow [01:19] at least on nvidia [01:20] i have a lowly intel thing so everything's slow here ;-) [01:20] but it works great [01:20] i have an optimus laptop with a core i3. i know when i first install ubuntu, i have to go in and uninstall any nvidia drivers or else 3d does not work. [01:21] once the nvidia drivers are gone, then the intel drivers work fine. [01:21] with 3d. [01:21] and for me to use the nvidia card, i just install bumblebee from there. [01:21] ok. since that is resolved, can someone tell me how to get minecraft working? [01:22] http://corbindavenport.blogspot.com/2012/04/how-to-play-minecraft-on-ubuntu-1204.html [01:22] jeremiah_ ^ [01:23] ok. i will try it out :) [01:25] it didn't work. i got a black screen. [01:28] Belial`, ^ [01:28] better google for "minecraft black screen" [01:29] done that. [01:29] sounds like a serious issue [01:29] it does... [01:29] and i have had it work the last time i had 12.04... [01:31] before it DIED! [01:36] smallest violin [01:37] ??? [01:58] Hey, just came in to ask... [01:59] I know Unity 5.10 has dropped, but as of today, since I upgraded Ubuntu on My hard disk today before I left My computer-illiterate friend with it, has it been applied? [02:05] Why the hell does pulseaudio automatically raise the volume for my microphone input? [02:06] It may be from a previous setting [02:07] There are separate settings for your speaker and mic [02:07] Which is awesome IMHO [02:08] Hi, I just updated. Now I have 128 packages that, when I install them, are all no longer needed. Most of them are :i386. [02:10] cc11rocks, I don't mean that. [02:10] I mean that the volume slider magically starts moving to the right [02:10] To the point even my breath is enough to clip the sound. [02:13] Maybe this is a bug? [02:14] sudo apt-get autoclean : min|dvir|us [02:14] That should get rid of the not needed packages [02:15] cc11rocks: that's the package files, not the actually installed files, which would be autoremove. :) [02:19] sudo apt-get purge << min|dvir|us Is that what you are looking for? That cleans the installation files and removes the packages...Are you looking to delete the downloaded packages? [02:19] No. When I remove the packages, I have 128 updates; when I install them, they're no longer required. [02:20] So the dependencies for the packages go away when you install them? [02:21] Is anyone else having a tough time understanding me? [02:21] Sorry about that [02:22] cc11rocks: that's OK. It' [02:22] s an infinite loop. [02:44] is 12.04 slow in VMWare for anyone else? [02:44] Me, but I use a netbook, so not an accurate confirm... [02:45] cc11rocks: hmm, ok. I am using an AMD A4 (x64 Win7 Host OS) and Ubuntu just seems so laggy from 11.10 onwards [02:45] :( [02:47] have to eat, bbs [02:48] k [02:49] what does piix4 ... Host SMBus Controller not enabled mean? [02:53] (error msg) [02:58] What do I need to add to bug 986756? [02:58] Launchpad bug 986756 in linux (Ubuntu) "Memory Stick PRO Duo cards are not auto-mounted when inserted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986756 [03:15] Back === CQ_ is now known as CQ [03:41] could someone tell me how to install java 6 from the website? I need that specific java, and the websites instructions are not very good... [03:53] I'm trying to boot the desktop amd64 iso for beta 2... [03:54] I get a blank menu with a 1. and a 2. on it (with nothing after the numbers) and a prompt that says "choose boot type:" [03:54] and nothing I hit on the keyboard does anything [03:54] on an intel-graphics Mac Mini (core 2 duo) [03:55] at first I thought maybe it didn't do 64-bit (I've had it a while, couldn't remember what was already on it) so I grabbed the i386 image and burned that... [03:55] it boots fine... [03:55] but when I try to fix my grub (I have an existing system I accidentally hosed grub on and I'm trying to fix grub so it'll boot) the grub utilities won't touch it because the existing grub on the hard drive is 64-bit apparently [03:56] so now I'm back to wondering why the amd64 disk won't boot [04:00] I imagine it's probably not a common problem or the disk wouldn't still be there for download by now. :) [04:09] justdave, actually the betas can have ugly bugs and the image will remain until its replaced by the release in a few more days [04:11] google is telling me people have that error trying to install Windows on machines with Intel motherboards [04:11] did you try 11.10? [04:12] I didn't. [04:12] the machine already has 12.04 on it (installed via update-manager -d from 11.10) [04:13] oh... [04:13] i believe there is some nasty grub bug around [04:15] I had a couple hacks in my kernel parameters from trying to make earlier versions work that I didn't think were needed anymore, attempted to remove those and then it decided not to boot at all anymore (must have done something else besides the kernel params becaus grub itself doesn't even start anymore, just a blinking cursor in the corner [04:16] maybe this stuff: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941973 [04:18] yes but grub is a stage earlier than the kernel, you should at least see the grub menu (if holding shift?) [04:18] no, I mean it doesn't even launch grub [04:18] it hangs before it gets that far [04:18] and if you didn't remove the older kernels, they should still be there to choose to boot from [04:19] I had the menus visible already before [04:19] yes then is a grub issue [04:19] maybe that thing uses an efi partition? did you read that grub likes to eat it for lunch? ;) [04:19] (in fact, I was planning to hunt down how to turn them off because I have another bootloader in front of grub (rEFIt) that I can use to pick the other OS when I need it [04:20] that refit could be damaged [04:22] hmm, let me check that efi partition thing [04:22] that actually sounds plausible, I remember looking at the partition map earlier [04:33] but it'll have to wait until tomorrow :( it's in a room with a person who is now sleeping and will get upset if I wake her up testing it :) [04:44] has the heating problem in Sony Vaio laptops been solved? Or should I use lubuntu, will that help with heating problem? [04:54] nischayn22: Do you have a bug on that? [04:59] astraljava: there are questions on askubuntu don't know of a bug [05:00] !bugs [05:00] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [06:44] * gnomefreak needs to learn how to use google :( [07:21] where can I see the enw features of the next release? [07:23] package ia32-libs is removed in 12.04, what package do I need to install to run 32bit programs? [07:25] hi [07:28] I'm trying to upgrade my kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 but on do-release-upgrade -d I am getting an error about having held / broken packages but I cant find any [07:29] phpN00b, are you in 12.04 [07:29] are you in pp [07:29] theres no ia32-lib in pp? [07:31] linuxuz3r, downloading the beta2 iso [07:31] oh [07:32] i wonder if you can run 32bits programmer in 64bits software [07:32] ? [07:32] ofcourse that is possible [07:32] you only need the 32bit libs [07:33] is it availaboe in 12.04 [07:33] or not [07:34] is it best to just do a fresh install? [07:38] i dont know [07:39] i have packages installed on my system that i need [07:39] i might break it if i just upgrade [07:39] Is anybody here using the one click minimize patch on 12.04? [07:41] can I reinstall ubuntu on top on a pre-exisiting ubuntu install on a dualboot machine with win7? [07:42] Do you want to replace the previous Ubuntu? [07:42] abeer: yes [07:42] since i'm unable to do an upgrade I'll have to do a fresh install [07:42] Then, there are 2 ways. Either you could 1> Use the inbuilt installer to replace. There is an option for this. [07:43] Or, you could reset the Windows Bootloader, then boot from a pendrive/cd and reinstall Ubuntu on the previous partitions by formatting them. [07:43] abeer: the inbult installer will be on the cd that i'll need to burn and boot off of? [07:44] yes. [07:44] If I use the inbuilt installer will I have to re-install win7? [07:44] If possible use a pen drive, I feel its much faster. [07:44] Not at all, just make sure you select the correct options. [07:44] There will be an option to replace current Ubuntu installation. [07:45] I dont have any free available flash drives atm [07:45] I'd have to burn a image to it? [07:45] I already have the 12.04 image burned [07:47] abeer: btw thx for the info [07:47] what does the one click minimize patch do? [07:47] That's perfectly alright. [07:48] datruth_, is it beta or the final version? [07:48] You can minimize windows by clicking on the respective icons in the unity bar [07:48] is it an extension [07:49] right now i like how my gnome shell works [07:49] oh by the way [07:49] hi [07:49] is it unity not gnome shell [07:49] Are you on fallback? or Gnome 3.4? [07:49] when ubuntu+1 become ubuntu? [07:49] 3.1 [07:50] you guys can suggest a good theme for gnome shell [07:50] can you guys suggest [07:51] I've decided to shift back to gnome fallback for a while. [07:51] Could someone tell me how to make gnome-do index my ntfs partitions. [07:51] datruth: not a problem [08:04] hrmm there is no inbuilt install option [08:04] hi @all, hope i am here at the correct channel with a question to unity/compiz [08:05] want to activate different background-images on the 4 desktops [08:05] where would this option be? [08:07] ga..this is not going to be a good release for the server version...so many broken packages [08:07] I have acitivated the cube, that works fine. Have configured 4 different wallpapers in CCSM in. And deactivated desktop. But there is no changing the background. [08:08] e.g. python-webob breaks openstack [08:08] Any idea, what is to configure? [08:30] hi [08:30] isn't 12.04 supposed to support clickpads ? [08:31] i installed a daily build a friends machine, need to edit the synaptics.conf file to make it work, with info frm the arch wiki [08:32] im hoping 12.04 fixes my sound/keyboard issues [08:35] hello all, precise still does not have a linux-server kernel? [08:36] how can I install kubuntu using a pre-existing ubuntu partition/install? [08:36] i did a do-release-upgrade and it replaced linux-image-3.0.0-17-server with linux-image-3.2.0.23-generic [08:41] does someone have a screenshot of vanilla 12.04 Ubuntu at hand? [08:42] or, could someone confirm that the problem is with me and not Ubuntu, when I've got no clock/calendar thingie on the top bar? [08:44] xsl: apparently there is no server kernel anymore, probably it was removed because there is no significant difference to the generic kernel configuration [08:48] Trewas: tyvm [08:51] Trewas: so linux-server linux-image-server are just metapackes [08:51] xsl: yeah [08:53] i will leave them - linux-image-server 3.2.0.23.25 it is just aiming for linux image-3.2...... [08:53] Trewas: tyvm for your help [09:03] :-| I don't know what I'm missing or if I'm missing anything but I don't have the clock thingie on the top bar and it does make me a bit annoyed. It's not there and I don't know what part has broken. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate - I just realised in System Settings there's nothing that I could use to change time and date either. [09:04] and the system claims to have all the packages that come with ubuntu-desktop and it's up to date [09:06] something doesn't ring true here [09:08] huh. indicator-datetime had been uninstalled [09:17] So still any bugs left to fix in these four days? [09:18] everything i'm finding is too big to fix :( mostly on the server side though [09:19] too big to fix before release that is [09:19] i need some help getting this sata card using ahci instead of pata_marvel : http://dpaste.com/735484/ [09:22] airtonix: IIRC you can byt you use any other pata you have on the MB [09:23] sorry ? [09:23] i can but i can ? [09:24] or i can't but i can ? [09:24] ??? [09:24] you lose the non-marvel ports, at least that was the issue a few years back [09:24] non-varvel IDE ports [09:24] this is a daughter board [09:25] i don't care about ide [09:25] http://dpaste.com/735485/ [09:25] hrm never tried it as an add in [09:26] the old fix was "options ahci marvell_enable=1 [09:26] did that [09:26] in modprobe [09:26] no go? [09:26] nothing. in bios the card is set to ahci too [09:26] Myrtti: did you accidently removed with while updateing or installing something? look for somthing like indicator-*. not sure if there is one or what the package is called [09:28] airtonix: the pain was that it really wasn't AHCI, it only had partial support IIRC [09:28] Myrtti: here is the package i think indicator-datetime [09:29] ^^^ install and see what happens [09:29] yep that is the package [09:30] hello everyone... [09:30] hi [09:30] i need help regarding 12.04 betas [09:30] * gnomefreak not everyone :) [09:30] gnomefreak: yeah, it appears so [09:30] ashjas: what aboiut it [09:30] i am on a laptop thaats having intel 915 chipset [09:31] ^^^ that is not helpful [09:32] mongo: this is the thing i have : http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=625&proname=ADPE4S-PB [09:32] mongo: on this mobo : http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=781&proname=NC9C-550-LF [09:34] i have a problem with the wireless since the initial betas till now... iam unable to connect to the internet through wireless card [09:34] pls see my problem here...http://askubuntu.com/q/123888/2538 [09:35] i installed the same beta on a recent laptop and on that there are no issues at all... [09:36] so there is something related to drivers thats changed thats causing this issue... [09:36] anyone having any idea?? pls help me [09:36] * gnomefreak no good with networking issues [09:37] brb smoser [09:37] airtonix: ya I was looking for it in newer kernels [09:37] https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/articles/h/a/r/Hardware,_driver_status.html [09:37] that says it is supported but that marvel doesn't provide much info [09:37] mongo: when i modprobe ahci_platform it complains about a missing device [09:38] so my chipset is supposed to be supported [09:38] `$ lsmod | grep ahci` revelas only : ahci_platform acard_ahci [09:39] i mean modprobe -l [09:39] airtonix: well it was supported in an older kernel, marvell may not be supplying patches now [09:39] http://dpaste.com/735493/ [09:40] i'm betting it is a pci id issue [09:43] airtonix: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15771 [09:43] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 15771 in Serial ATA "Marvell 6145 on Jetway Daughterboard fails to detect any disks" [Normal,New] [09:51] mongo: thanks [09:56] marvell needs to die in a fire [10:20] Is anyone here active on Kubuntu 12.04 ? [10:22] when 12.04 is out ? [10:23] ngomes: see /t and click the link that has the word rease [10:23] ngomes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [10:24] ^^^link [10:24] gnomefreak, thanks [10:25] ngomes: np [10:25] btw [10:25] what does LTS means ? [10:25] long term support [10:25] ngomes: long term support [10:26] IIRC lts is 18 months as opposed the 12 months [10:26] it will be supported at least until the next LTS, 2 years from now, and even a bit further [10:26] server even longer [10:27] "In previous releases, a Long Term Support (LTS) version had 3 years support on Ubuntu (Desktop) and 5 years on Ubuntu Server. Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both versions will receive 5 years support." [10:27] 2years? i thought gui was 18months and server was 2 years [10:27] oh cool [10:28]