[03:09]  * passstab just learned chroot
[03:09]  * passstab will wait for debian to switch from sysvinit
[10:10] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:01] <rmg51> morning
[11:01] <rmg51> walk time :)
[11:21] <JonathanD> Already did.
[12:00] <waltman> Morning.
[15:41] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: not terribly slow but I want to use it for music production
[15:41] <MutantTurkey> that means each slice of sound is uncompressed 64 bit wav... just one guitar track can be a couple hundred megs.
[15:41] <MutantTurkey> this server has 2tb of space, so I wanted to use it to host my stuff
[18:46] <biobunsai> Hello All:)
[18:46] <biobunsai> Anyone here that can give some clues please?
[18:58] <passstab> hi
[18:58] <passstab> what kind of clues?
[19:08] <biobunsai> Hiya pass
[19:08] <biobunsai> I have having issues trying to get sound out of my system.
[19:09] <biobunsai> I installed linux on a old machine to learn it. and i got most of it down, but cant get the sound out of it
[19:15] <passstab> hmm
[19:15] <passstab> what distro?
[19:15] <passstab> and version
[19:16] <biobunsai> ubu 11.04 i think it's the latest one...
[19:16] <biobunsai> And just north of harrisburg, btw:)
[19:16] <passstab> what hardware?
[19:18] <biobunsai> No laughing... HP Pavilion a1530n
[19:19] <passstab> (11.10 is the latest, 12.04 is coming on the 26 BTW)
[19:19] <biobunsai> sorry, just getting to know linux... and done more installs i don't even follow it any more:)
[19:19] <biobunsai> LOL
[19:20]  * passstab is googleing
[19:22] <biobunsai> WOW i feel dumb... But thank you for all your help...
[19:22] <passstab> ?
[19:23] <passstab> you found it?
[19:23] <biobunsai> I have the stereo wire crossover and set to the wrong jack on the home sytem. The I was trying to get sound off the other computer setting.. I am soo sorry for bugging you
[19:23] <passstab> np :)
[19:24] <biobunsai> :) No wback to work trying to how to chan the dns and install proxies..
[19:24] <jedijf> glad he fixed it
[19:24] <passstab> you probably should install 12.04 when it comes out tho
[19:26] <biobunsai> I will:) is there a good place to read up on ubu? and really learn it? Or is it a crash and burn your figners learning center:)
[19:28] <passstab> i think it's the later :D
[19:28] <passstab> but jedijf might know of something
[19:29] <biobunsai> well thanks for you help Pass:) \
[19:29] <passstab> #ubuntu might be a better place to go for faster help
[19:29] <jedijf> no
[19:29] <jedijf> never
[19:30] <jedijf> #ubuntu is a cluster f
[19:30] <passstab> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[19:30] <PennBot> Title: Official Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[19:30] <jedijf> yeah community docs are great
[19:30] <biobunsai> well I got backtrack and matruix on vm and this is alot more friendly
[19:30] <passstab> and ofc google
[19:31] <passstab> yes ubuntu is more friendly then those :D
[19:31] <jedijf> biobunsai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[19:31] <PennBot> Title: UserDocumentation - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[19:31] <jedijf> wow.....backtrack
[19:31] <jedijf> lol
[19:32] <passstab> 3rd n00b i've seen that uses it
[19:32] <passstab> is weird
[19:32] <biobunsai> I tried suse, red hat, slackware, mint.. trying to find the one that works for me
[19:32] <jedijf> biobunsai: pick one - use it for 6 weeks
[19:32] <jedijf> exclusively
[19:32] <jedijf> anyone
[19:32] <jedijf> force yourself to use..
[19:32] <jedijf> you will then learn
[19:33] <passstab> mint debian is my vote
[19:33] <biobunsai> Well i been with ubu for about a month now:)  still trying to figure out all the systems settings:)
[19:33] <jedijf> good
[19:33] <passstab> why do you prefer ubu to mint?
[19:34] <jedijf> mint is green
[19:34] <jedijf> ugly
[19:34]  * jedijf looks at channel titlebar
[19:34]  * passstab wasn't asking jedijf 
[19:34] <biobunsai> Don't know.. this just seems to be more user friendly and no so lindows looking
[19:34] <jedijf> hahah
[19:35] <biobunsai> Of course I crashed the system twice changing the start up splash screen:)
[19:35] <passstab> i like trying to understand n00bs is that so bad?
[19:35] <biobunsai> LOL Nope. I do programing and windows networking and I do the same thing all the time:)
[19:35] <passstab> biobunsai, you like unity?
[19:36] <biobunsai> haven't tried that ...
[19:37] <biobunsai> I used to run linux years ago, butthey kill my flavor
[19:37] <passstab> what environment do you use?
[19:38] <biobunsai> lycoris
[19:38] <passstab> *desktop environment
[19:38] <biobunsai> Oh whats onmy windows machines?
[19:39] <passstab> no
[19:40] <passstab> did you install ubuntu or kubuntu or something else?
[19:41] <biobunsai> I did a full install of ubuntu on a old box, which is what you helped me with:)
[19:41] <passstab> is not THAT old
[19:41] <passstab> that i should be laughing
[19:42] <biobunsai> LOL No i guess not.. It's not like I dug out a 386 or something
[19:42] <passstab> you ARE useing unity then
[19:43] <passstab> http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
[19:43] <PennBot> Title: About (at unity.ubuntu.com)
[19:43] <biobunsai> yes, thank you I am:)
[19:46] <jedijf> biobunsai: older book, but concepts should be similar to current: http://files.jedijf.com/pacs/Ubuntu.Kung.Fu.pdf.tar.gz
[19:48] <biobunsai> Ty jedi
[19:53] <biobunsai> TY very much JEDI... ~bowing most humbly~
[19:57] <passstab> this is like fanfic
[19:57] <passstab> jedi teaching kung-fu
[20:01] <biobunsai> what is a good mp3 playing program. I'm using banshee.. anything better?
[20:04] <passstab> for just playing them?
[20:04] <passstab> vlc
[20:09] <rmg51> Rhythmbox
[20:09] <biobunsai> yea just want to play them
[20:09] <passstab> then vlc
[20:10] <passstab> can play EVERYTHING
[20:10] <passstab> so its popular on the other OSs also
[20:11] <biobunsai> oh there a issue I having.. every now and then the video  for the icons getgrabbled.. and clue why that is?
[20:11] <passstab> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[20:11] <PennBot> Title: VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework! (at www.videolan.org)
[20:11] <passstab> what?
[20:13] <passstab> i don't understand what you just said
[20:13] <biobunsai> the gui gets all pixeled for no good reason out of the blue
[20:13] <passstab> the entire gui?
[20:14] <biobunsai> pretty much. and and stays that way till I reboot
[20:14] <passstab> how do you reboot?
[20:15] <biobunsai> log off, restart.
[20:15] <passstab> via cli?
[20:16] <biobunsai> when its real bad i hard boot.
[20:17] <passstab> you should use ctrl-alt-Fn
[20:17] <passstab> then login and type sudo reboot
[20:18] <passstab> now i'll consider the problem  :P
[20:20] <passstab> are you using a proprietary graphics driver?
[20:20] <biobunsai> I'm using the onboard video....
[20:21] <passstab> open a terminal
[20:21] <passstab> and run
[20:21] <passstab> lspci -v | grep VGA
[20:22] <passstab> paste the output here
[20:24] <biobunsai> dumb question.... how did you get the char after the -v?
[20:24] <biobunsai> before grep
[20:25] <passstab> ahh
[20:25] <passstab> i remeber when i had the same problem
[20:25] <passstab> shift+backslash
[20:25] <passstab> probably
[20:26] <passstab> it's called a pipe
[20:27] <passstab> and in this case it's being used to direct the output of the first command to be the input for the second
[20:27] <biobunsai> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[20:30] <passstab> good
[20:31] <biobunsai> and pipe is  shift  \:)
[20:33] <passstab> what i said
[20:33] <passstab> http://askubuntu.com/questions/50966/screen-corruption-with-946g-82945g-gz
[20:33] <PennBot> Title: 11.04 - Screen corruption with 946G / 82945G/GZ - Ask Ubuntu - Stack Exchange (at askubuntu.com)
[20:34] <passstab> says running sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:34] <passstab> will help
[20:34] <passstab> but i'd be surprised
[20:37]  * passstab pokes jedijf again
[20:37] <biobunsai> says it took out libgladeui-1-11
[20:38] <passstab> what does?
[20:38] <biobunsai> So i guess i reboot now  or do i have to get it to attach or something?
[20:38] <passstab> ???
[20:39] <passstab> what took out glade?
[20:39] <biobunsai> sudo getting the xserver intel
[20:41] <passstab> thas weird
[20:42] <biobunsai> well i hope it don't crash the system :) Thats getting old:) .LOL
[20:43] <jedijf> biobunsai: don't have to reboot linux after every change
[20:43] <jedijf> that's windows think
[20:43] <jedijf> just have to log out (kill xwindow) and log back in (start x window)
[20:43] <biobunsai> Lol Sorry i been with windows since DOS 3.22.. old habits..
[20:43] <jedijf> for this particular change
[20:44] <jedijf> biobunsai: that's ok, just telling you so you know
[20:44] <passstab> yea the only time you need to reboot is after a kernel upgrade
[20:44] <jedijf> Ko rect
[20:44] <jedijf> specifically, an /Ubuntu/ kernel upgrade
[20:45] <passstab> what do you mean?
[20:45] <jedijf> nm
[20:45] <jedijf> passstab: you know tomorrow is a special tech week mmmm at hive, right?
[20:46] <passstab> yes
[20:46] <jedijf> k
[20:46] <passstab> will be there
[20:46] <biobunsai> Thank you both very much for the clue ins
[20:46] <passstab> as well as all the other tw@hive events
[20:46] <passstab> np
[20:47] <passstab> :)
[20:47] <passstab> except for open house
[20:48] <jedijf> passstab: nice
[20:48] <jedijf> i will do monday and fri at the gala setup and stuff
[20:48] <passstab> also i registered for the toool workshop
[20:49] <passstab> oh and not friday either
[20:57] <passstab> oh was that a comment about how ubuntu disregards it's upstreams?
[20:58] <jedijf> no comment
[20:58] <jedijf> the toool stuff is fun
[20:59] <passstab> will you go to that?
[20:59] <jedijf> i have the beginners set of locks 1 pin to 6 pin to practice with
[21:00] <passstab> i payed $30 for the $30 value package
[21:00] <jedijf> i have that as well, they're the picks and the 2 tension jawns
[21:01] <jedijf> i just ordered the leather pouch set to carry (backordered)
[21:01]  * passstab will learn what tension jawns are on tuesday
[21:02] <jedijf> passstab: this will be as exciting as blinking your first led with an mcu
[21:02] <jedijf> passstab: hint: less is more
[21:02] <passstab> :)