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[03:24] <nigelb> mhall119: I know. My friend did grad school there.
[04:12] <jo-erlend> http://people.ubuntu.com/~joerlend.schinstad/ubuntu-no/grafikk.svg <-- made some graphics if anyone's interested.
[04:15] <jo-erlend> oh... It's clickable :)
[04:16] <bodhizazen> nice one
[04:17] <jo-erlend> Thought I'd run it in full screen on one workspace while making videos. Then I'll use Super+S to switch to the desktop. So I use the two first in the beginning of the video, and the final two in the end.
[04:17] <bodhizazen> It's big
[04:17] <jo-erlend> isn't that nice? :)
[06:09] <jo-erlend> can someone confirm for me that it's not possible for a second admin to install software from the USC?
[07:06] <popey> 07:09:36 < jo-erlend> can someone confirm for me that it's not possible for a second admin to install software from the USC?
[07:06] <popey> works here
[07:06] <popey> nope
[07:06] <jo-erlend> works here too, about 30-40% of the time.
[07:06] <jo-erlend> it's extremely annoying.
[07:08] <jo-erlend> I'm trying to record a screencast to get some attention to the release in the general media. I recorded voice in advance because there might be changes to the GUI, and it enables me to practice my movements, get timing correct, etc. However, I am completely unable to follow my own instructions, because each time I do, something breaks.
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[07:08] <jo-erlend> sometimes it's gwibber. Sometimes it's USC. Other times apport shows up, which obviously can't be part of a demo. :)
[07:09] <jo-erlend> I think this was 30th time I tried or something. Very frustrating.
[07:09] <jo-erlend> popey, nope? You discovered the intermittent functionality as well? :)
[07:11] <jo-erlend> hmm. Is it possible that the first admin has to be logged in for the second admin to be able to install applications? *tries*
[07:11] <popey> "nope" in answer to your question, i can't confirm it
[07:12] <jo-erlend> popey, this time it worked, when I had the first admin logged in. Could you try  it when the first admin is not logged on?
[07:13] <popey> sure
[07:15] <jo-erlend> so, you should be able to open the USC, but you should not be able to click the button in order to install it. More precisely, this is VLC, but I can't imagine any reason why that specific package should be a cause.
[07:18] <popey> jo-erlend: worked fine
[07:20] <jo-erlend> well.. As I said, it works some of the time. I just can't figure out what, if anything, I'm doing differently when it doesn't.
[07:20] <jo-erlend> but alright. I'll try one more time to record it...
[07:22] <popey> sorry
[07:35] <jo-erlend> popey, thanks. :)
[07:35] <jo-erlend> I thought this would be a ten minute job. Perhaps half an hour. Not several days.
[07:38] <jo-erlend> heh. At least I was able to make a somewhat cool svg. :)
[07:47] <dpm> jo-erlend, I don't have a solution for everything, but for the apport issue, you can disable apport while you're recording the screencast
[07:48] <dpm> and good morning everyone!
[07:48] <popey> bug 942709
[07:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 942709 in ubuntu-branding "Taking consistent screenshots is hard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942709
[07:48] <popey> dpm: you should add that to ^^ that bug report :D
[07:49] <popey> the bug goal is to have a consistent UI when recording videos / screenshots
[07:49]  * dpm digs out how to disable apport
[07:50] <dpm> on /etc/default/apport, changing enabled=1 to enabled=0
[07:57] <jo-erlend> dpm, thanks :)
[07:59] <dpm> np ;)
[07:59] <jo-erlend> I just went to the store and got myself some sausages. Perhaps a couple of hours break will do the trick. :)
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[10:42] <cjohnston> mornin
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[11:44] <akgraner> jcastro  - I told Sean I would send he and Elliot my list along with all the behind the scenes stuff - Novacut and I will meet on Sunday as well for them to go over any questions they have - I listed the hot topics as  - cloud, Maas, juju, charms, server, TV, Ubuntu on Android, QA, and the usual cast of characters
[11:48] <pangolin> who is it that is spear heading Juju and all its server goodness?
[11:49] <pangolin> Could you please submit a factoid to ubottu " /msg ubottu juju is <reply> great stuff and where to find info goes here. "
[11:55] <pangolin> How is this?
[11:55] <pangolin> -juju is <reply>Juju is DevOps DistilledTM. Through the use of charms, juju provides you with shareable, re-usable, and repeatable expressions of DevOps best practices https://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Discussion and support in #juju
[11:55] <cjohnston> pangolin: try #ubuntu-irc
[11:57] <pangolin> gotta run, will ask again later if nobody replies :) have a good day.
[11:57] <cjohnston> this isnt the correct place for the question.. #ubuntu-irc is
[11:58] <pangolin> actually #juju-devs is probably the best place to ask :) Will do it when I get back.
[13:10] <jcastro_> cjohnston: hah, you are awesome!
[13:11] <cjohnston> I know.. but why this time?
[13:11] <cjohnston> :-P
[13:11] <s-fox> jcastro_,  ping :)
[13:11] <jcastro_> hi
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[13:11] <s-fox> jcastro,  Any news on those drives for the forums ?
[13:12] <jcastro> he is getting back with me today
[13:12] <jcastro> oh, it's not the drives
[13:12] <jcastro> it's the openid library that broke
[13:12] <jcastro> iirc that is the next step
[13:12] <jcastro> I think they took care of the drives
[13:16] <s-fox> jcastro,  i thought technoviking had resolved the sso issue
[13:16] <jcastro> It was
[13:16] <jcastro> then it broke
[13:16] <jcastro> it's like the last thing left
[13:16] <jcastro> they were investigating it
[13:16] <jcastro> it doesn't sound like it's broken broken, just slightly broken
[13:17] <jcastro> the good news is though, they say the theme and everything works awesome
[13:21]  * popey Gnnnnnn's at unity-design
[13:21] <mhall119> s-fox: hey, I'd like to start a new forum for App Developers, what's the process for getting that started?
[13:21] <mhall119> popey: uh oh..
[13:22]  * jussi wants this! http://www.fit-pc.com/web/intensepc/ :D
[13:22] <popey> i cant decide if Ryan Gauger is a massive troll or just young / innocent / stupid
[13:22] <jcastro> ooh drama
[13:22] <jcastro> link!
[13:22] <mhall119> popey: which thread?
[13:22] <czajkowski> popey: the one sent on the 18/4 @ 04:05
[13:22] <popey> all the threads
[13:23] <czajkowski> hmm he has been asked nicely before
[13:23] <s-fox> Okay, do we have eta jcastro ?
[13:23] <jcastro> I will find out today
[13:23] <s-fox> Great, thank you jcastro
[13:23] <mhall119> popey: oh yes, at least that wasn't the only thing in his reply
[13:24] <mhall119> popey: I've been assuming young/naive
[13:24] <Pendulum> popey: I think young, innocent, stupid and completely inexperienced with people who aren't exactly like him
[13:25] <mhall119> yeah, definitely that last part Pendulum
[13:25] <Pendulum> very sheltered
[13:25] <s-fox> mhall119,  Hello, we already have a subforum for development projects -  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=310   :)
[13:25] <mhall119> s-fox: this would be different, specifically for independent app developer to talk about targettign and deploying on Ubuntu
[13:25] <mhall119> not general programming and development
[13:26] <mhall119> and not developing Ubuntu itself
[13:26] <jcastro> s-fox: he's on the west coast so ... he'll be around in 1.5 hours, I'll ambush him then
[13:26] <Pendulum> I have guesses on where he might be from and how he's been raised/educated based on prior experiences with people with the same sorts of behaviours, but I could be wrong.
[13:26] <jcastro> heya jussi
[13:26] <s-fox> oh my - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[13:27] <jcastro> you IRC counciling still?
[13:27] <jussi> hi there jcastro. no
[13:27] <jussi> jcastro: but what do you need?
[13:27] <s-fox> I thought everything on ubuntu.com had the new css
[13:27] <jcastro> no, that one is pretty much doomed
[13:27] <jcastro> jussi: I need #ubuntu-cloud -> #ubuntu-server
[13:27] <jussi> jcastro: is it not already?
[13:27] <jcastro> the brainstorm guy hasn't been around in a long time
[13:28] <jcastro> jussi: I don't know, how do I tell, just try to join it?
[13:28] <jussi> I thought we did that ages ago
[13:28] <mhall119> s-fox: help.u.c doesn't either
[13:29] <s-fox> mhall119,  Oh I see. It shouldn't be difficult for us to setup. It'll probably be put under development in its own subforum.   I would adivse you email the rest of the fc with the details
[13:29] <mhall119> s-fox: what other sections besides development are there?
[13:30] <jussi> jcastro: ok, ircc is the people you need, grab alanbell, pici, topyli or funkyhat
[13:30] <jcastro> ta...
[13:30] <s-fox> mhall119,  under development and programming we have these sections - Packaging and Compiling Programs , Development CD/DVD Image Testing , Ubuntu Dev Link Forum , Programming Talk , Repositories & Backports
[13:31] <mhall119> s-fox: I mean outside of development and programming
[13:31] <s-fox> mhall119,  Have a look on the index page. We have a lot of secitons. far to many to list - http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[13:34] <mhall119> s-fox: would it be possible to get "App Developers" as a main support forum?
[13:35] <s-fox> mhall119,  we could, yes but it would be better under development, so as to keep the structure organised.
[13:35] <s-fox> brb
[13:35] <mhall119> dpm: ^^ what are your thoughts?
[13:35] <mhall119> I'd like to make it as top-level as possible, myself
[13:36]  * dpm looks at the current forum structure
[13:37] <mhall119> jbicha: bkerensa: are the documentation contributor lists final?
[13:39] <jcastro> s-fox: speaking of subforums, we could close the cloud subforum and just have it point to the server stuff
[13:40] <dpm> mhall119, s-fox, I think logically it would make sense to have it under development, but if we think about it as an important area we want to actively promote and have high visibility on, it would make more sense to have it as a main category
[13:42] <mhall119> I also see it as having a broader scope than just development
[13:42] <mhall119> yes, it's for "App Developers", but it'll be about more than "App development"
[13:44] <mhall119> at least, that's my hope
[13:44] <jcastro> Quantal Quetzal
[13:44] <jcastro> \o/
[13:45] <jcastro> finally!
[13:46] <snap-l> I was really hoping for Quiescent Quagah.
[13:47] <snap-l> Sorry, Quagaars
[13:47] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_God_(Red_Dwarf)
[13:49] <mhall119> I still like quadrivial
[13:50] <Quantal_Quetzal> \o/ I am alive
[13:50] <jussi> oh no...
[13:50] <Quantal_Quetzal> Oh yes!
[13:51] <mhall119> time to upgrade to quantal!
[13:51] <jussi> *snigger*
[13:53] <mhall119> that's the bad part about using ubuntu+1 for so long
[13:54] <mhall119> instead of getting something new on release day, you just lament the fact that the new release's archives aren't up yet
[13:55] <jussi> we should open the archive already
[13:55] <cjohnston> I hate CSS!
[13:56] <jussi> cjohnston: awww
[13:56] <cjohnston> its no fun unless your running A1 or earlier
[13:56] <cjohnston> jcastro: I fixed your bug and your dream item, fix my css
[13:56] <cjohnston> hehe
[13:56] <jcastro> I <3 u
[13:57] <cjohnston> :-/
[13:57] <jcastro> mhall119: +1 not being open I can handle
[13:57] <jcastro> it's no updates for like the next week that I can't get used to
[13:57] <jcastro> here I am with squid-deb-proxy and a beer and nothing to do
[13:57] <cjohnston> I want a beer!
[13:57] <forestpiskie> sounds good to me cjohnston
[13:58] <jussi> cjohnston: ++++++
[13:58] <cjohnston> I also want my networking to work on this little server box I have so that I can set it up to do cool things for me
[13:59] <cjohnston> stupid headless box with no possibility for video out
[14:00] <s-fox> mhall119,  The FC are meeting this week. I would feel a lot happier discussing it with the rest of the FC. Could you add it to the agenda? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[14:07] <mhall119> s-fox: added
[14:07] <s-fox> Thank you mhall119  :)
[14:07] <mhall119> np
[14:07] <mhall119> s-fox: I'll try to be there, but it'll be my evening time
[14:08] <s-fox> It'll be midnight for me mhall119
[14:14] <technoviking> morning all
[14:15] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[14:15] <jcastro> ok
[14:15] <jcastro> I need people
[14:17] <mhall119> jcastro: how's the weather down where you are?
[14:17] <jcastro> nice today
[14:17] <jcastro> stormy yesterday
[14:17] <s-fox> Hey technoviking , how was your weekend ?
[14:17] <mhall119> that's how it goes, nice weather only comes after the rain
[14:24] <cjohnston> jcastro: make mhall119 do another django dev class so that we can get another summit dev
[14:24] <jcastro> yes please
[14:24] <jcastro> dpm: balloons: mhall119: dholbach is doing some classes, hook a brotha up
[14:25] <dpm> where's he?
[14:25] <dpm> ubuntu-classroom?
[14:25] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[14:25] <dpm> ah, gotcha
[14:26]  * dpm thinks of something and signs up
[14:26] <balloons> ohh right right
[14:26] <balloons> it's a small list actually
[14:26] <jcastro> actually
[14:26] <jcastro> balloons: you're going to UDS early right?
[14:26] <cjohnston> balloons could do a class on how to screw up peoples systems with checkbox
[14:27] <balloons> yes, that's right
[14:27] <jcastro> then find someone else
[14:27] <balloons> but I have someone who wants to do a session
[14:27] <jcastro> but we do need QA stuff
[14:27] <balloons> ^^
[14:27] <jcastro> right
[14:27] <balloons> ;-)
[14:27] <jcastro> actually, who on the team is not going to UDS early?
[14:27] <balloons> i'll get the signups today
[14:27] <mhall119> cjohnston: this is open week, not developer week
[14:27] <cjohnston> jcastro: the email you sent out... there is no reference to q in your examples... desktop-q-mono-flamewar
[14:27] <dpm> jcastro, what happened to the 30' sessions?
[14:27] <jcastro> cjohnston: do you need that still?
[14:27] <cjohnston> mhall119 that means its open to teaching about development
[14:28] <mhall119> dpm: 30' sessions?
[14:28] <cjohnston> jcastro: unless you use the create a meeting feature in summit yes
[14:28] <jcastro> cjohnston: ok I will send another one
[14:29] <cjohnston> see pmn
[14:29] <cjohnston> see pm
[14:29] <cjohnston> :-P
[14:29] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, we discussed that instead of doing 1h sessions for our Ubuntu weeks we'd have 30' slots, but the UOW seems to have 1h slots again. I don't mind either, just asking
[14:29] <mhall119> oh, ok
[14:29] <jcastro> I don't know what happened
[14:29] <mhall119> in US-parlance, ' means foot or feet, so I read "thirty foot sessions"
[14:30] <jcastro> but too late to change it now, let's just roll with it
[14:30] <dpm> ha! :)
[14:31] <dpm> jcastro, done https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable
[14:32] <cjohnston> mhall119, what, you don't like thirty foot sessions?
[14:32] <jcastro> <3
[14:40] <jokerdino> hey dpm, you there?
[14:41] <dpm> hi jokerdino
[14:41] <jokerdino> regarding the UOW, i wouldn't mind doing a lesson on Ask ubuntu on friday 4 may, at 1300 UTC..
[14:41] <jokerdino> but well you have booked the slot.. so yeah..
[14:42] <jokerdino> would it be okay if we negotiate the time slot now?
[15:00] <dholbach> heya jono
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, all set?
[15:00] <dholbach> yep
[15:01] <jono> dholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid
[15:19] <s-fox> cprofitt,  dholbach , pleia2 , czajkowski   - Just want to give you a heads up that a  forum user known as HotForLinux we recently banned for COC violations may post to your mailing list. The user is currently trolling on ours. :)
[15:20] <cprofitt> s-fox: thanks
[15:22] <s-fox> how are you cprofitt ?
[15:22] <s-fox> good weekend?
[15:23] <paultag> s-fox: :)
[15:23] <s-fox> Hello paultag , what's new?
[15:23] <paultag> s-fox: livin' the dream. How are you? It's been a while!
[15:23] <mhall119> hey paultag
[15:23] <paultag> hey mhall119
[15:25] <s-fox> paultag,  I have been really busy with a few projects
[15:27] <jcastro> trolling? LINK!
[15:27] <jokerdino> hey dpm i have added my slot for UOW 1500 for now. though i would really like 1300 slot. can we discuss this when you are free for a while? :))
[15:28] <bodhi_zazen> s-fox: HotForLinux just will not quit, this user is on my /ignore list pending FC appeal of ban
[15:29] <bodhi_zazen> They can make a case at FC meeting AFIK
[15:29] <s-fox> bodhi_zazen,  You saw my reply. I have had no contact with the user prior to the email i sent.  I had no bias.
[15:29] <cprofitt> s-fox: pretty good weekend
[15:29] <dpm> jokerdino, sure. Would you mind doing the rearranging and moving my 13:00 session to the same time on Thursday, while you're changing the slot?
[15:29] <cprofitt> you?
[15:30] <jcastro> s-fox: does he have posts on the forums?
[15:30] <bodhi_zazen> no, not yet
[15:30] <jcastro> awww man, no train wreck to watch?
[15:30] <jokerdino> dpm: alright, so your 1300 goes to thursday as mine changes from 1500 to 1300. cool
[15:30] <dpm> great, thanks
[15:31] <s-fox> We jailed his penetration testing thread. He then failed to argue good reasoning for reinstating the post in the RC. Once denied in the RC he then posted to the mailing list.
[15:32] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:32] <dpm> jono, yep!
[15:32] <paultag> jcastro: you being a michigan fan is starting to make sense
[15:32] <jono> dpm,, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid
[15:32] <jcastro> paultag: I'm not a michigan fan
[15:33] <mhall119> he's a Lightning fan now, right jcastro ?
[15:34] <jcastro> ouch.
[15:40] <jokerdino> dpm: i think i have done it right. do check it later and give me a thumbs up! thanks again for being so awesome!
[15:41] <snap-l> jcastro is a Michigan fan, but he has this annoying habit of adding "State" to it.
[15:42]  * s-fox is going to make an achievement award - Greatest ubuntu forums admin of the month :D @ jono and bodhi_zazen  
[15:42] <jono> :-)
[15:43] <jono> s-fox, cool!
[15:44] <s-fox> jono,  I haven't read through the documentation yet but it should be fun :)  I thought perhaps adding some fun ones for being really helpful on the forum. You know stuff like reporting spam and that sort of thing. Some users are really good at it.
[15:45] <jcastro> someone should blog "Forums user of the month" on planet or something
[15:46] <s-fox> jcastro,  funny you should mention blogging - i am going to be posting a monthly public report
[15:47] <jussi> you all know how I am interested in sheep... here is a cool sheep + tech video (for all you who havent yet seen it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw  :D (no, I wasnt involved)
[15:47] <s-fox> we've already taken the initiative and hope to... integrate better with the wider community. It has been argued we are to closed
[15:48] <jcastro> closed is a bit strong
[15:48] <s-fox> well, you know whsat i mean. Not as open as we could be
[15:52] <s-fox> jcastro,  the post will go live at the end of the month. No doubt you will see it :)
[15:53] <bodhi_zazen> LOL s-fox
[15:54] <forestpiskie> :)
[15:54] <s-fox> bodhi_zazen,  i'll also do one for the mod that upsets the most registered users in a month ;)
[15:54] <s-fox> ^ forestpiskie
[15:54] <s-fox> and no, that is not a challenge forestpiskie
[15:55] <jokerdino> forestpiskie would win it by miles.
[15:55] <bodhi_zazen> mhall119: ping, do you have time for a PM ?
[15:55] <forestpiskie> thanks jokerdino s-fox :(
[15:55] <forestpiskie> :)
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> s-fox: we need a slayer award - mod who bans the most spammers
[15:56] <s-fox> iowan
[15:56] <s-fox> i stopped banning hundreds of accounts at a time
[16:00] <nothingspecial> howefield
[16:03] <dpm> jokerdino, timetable looks great, thanks! :)
[16:03] <jcastro> \o/
[16:05] <jono> jcastro, can you wrap your 12.10 plan today
[16:05] <dpm> dholbach, achuni asks me for a way to find out the apps that have been published in extras.u.c (perhaps specifying for which distro series too). Do you have any script lying around to do this?
[16:05] <jono> then we can lock it in
[16:06] <jcastro> jono: I will try to get to it
[16:06] <jcastro> man, I am behind
[16:06] <jono> jcastro, thanks
[16:06] <jcastro> is there something I can punt?
[16:07] <jcastro> <-- lunch
[16:08] <dholbach> dpm, give me a sec
[16:10] <dholbach> dpm, for i in maverick natty oneiric precise; do wget -q http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/$i/main/source/Sources.gz -O $i.gz; echo $i; echo "---"; zgrep "^Package:" $i.gz; done
[16:10] <dholbach> dirty but works ;-)
[16:11] <dpm> that's perfect ;)
[16:11] <dpm> thanks
[16:12] <dholbach> de nada
[16:42] <dpm> jbicha is awesome
[16:42] <dpm> he's just modified help.ubuntu.com to finally display multilingual help:
[16:42] <dpm> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/
[16:44] <mhall119> jcastro: would I have time to run a UOW session during the design spring we'll be at?
[16:44] <jcastro> I am guessing no
[16:44] <jcastro> I am guessing I won't have time to run the event either
[16:45] <mhall119> :(
[16:50] <pleia2> jcastro: if the classroom team needs to help just let us know, I can't be up by 13:00 but I can see if others can at least for last minute schedule adjustments and things
[16:50] <pleia2> don't want this to end up like community week last year where no one was available or knew who was supposed to be running things
[16:51] <jcastro> yea, I also didn't know I would be going to UDS a week early
[16:51] <pleia2> yeah, this schedule is pretty tight
[16:52] <jcastro> maybe we should push it back one week next cycle
[16:52] <jcastro> well, that won't work either
[16:52] <jcastro> UDS
[16:53] <jcastro> and the week after doesn't work either, people will be too smoked from UDS
[16:53] <pleia2> yeah, how about next time we don't do UDS a week early :)
[16:55] <jcastro> is it a week early this time?
[16:55] <pleia2> maybe it just feels that way to me
[16:57] <czajkowski> thought it was about 2 weeks post release as only so long folks can wait for the next version to start working on
[16:57] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[16:57] <pleia2> czajkowski: it's 11 days
[16:58] <czajkowski> nods
[16:58] <czajkowski> guess it's just the way the scheduling has happened
[16:58]  * pleia2 nods
[16:58] <czajkowski> guess many factors to take into account as well, hotels/flights/knock on events
[16:59] <pleia2> yeah, -o was released on the 13th, uds-p was on the 31st, there was an extra week in there
[16:59] <czajkowski> pleia2: no MAC shop at san fran airport ?
[16:59] <pleia2> MAC shop?
[16:59] <czajkowski> mac makeup :)
[16:59] <pleia2> oh gosh, not a clue :)
[17:00] <czajkowski> checking the site map but dont see it just wondered if you knew as sometimes not up to date.
[17:00] <pleia2> but all the terminals at SFO are separate past security, so even if there was one I'd expect it to be randomly in one of the terminals, probably not generally accessible
[17:00] <czajkowski> nods
[17:00] <czajkowski> cool thanks
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[17:01] <jono> mhall119, all set?
[17:02] <mhall119> yup
[17:02] <mhall119> was just about to ask you if we were doing it
[17:02] <jono> mhall119, sure, one sec
[17:07] <balloons> sweet ivy bridge did come out today
[17:07] <balloons> upgrade time!
[17:30] <Pendulum> czajkowski: looks like there is no MAC in the airport (according to MAC's website). There are several shops in San Francisco, however
[17:31] <dholbach> good night everyone - see you all tomorrow
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[18:29] <jono> balloons, all set?
[18:30] <balloons> yep.. just had to reboot because of a compiz crash
[18:30] <balloons> VT switching and nvidia still seem a bit messed up
[18:31] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=
[18:34] <mhall119> popey: you should definitely get both childsplay and gcompris for your son
[18:51]  * jussi hugs jono
[19:10] <cprofitt> balloons: Nvidia is working on an updated driver
[19:10] <cprofitt> I installed 295.20 and have a working system
[19:15] <paultag> isn't that the one with the security bug?
[19:15] <paultag> ah, yeah http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-0946
[19:15] <ubot2> paultag: The NVIDIA UNIX driver before 295.40 allows local users to access arbitrary memory locations by leveraging GPU device-node read/write privileges. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-0946)
[19:16] <paultag> careful :)
[19:20] <balloons> wow.. that sucks
[19:20] <balloons> cprofitt, did you manually update?
[19:20] <balloons> any news on when that might hit the archive?
[19:20]  * jono hugs jussi
[19:21] <cprofitt> yes
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[19:25] <cprofitt> balloons: the driver I installed was an older one direct from Nvidia
[19:25]  * balloons sees the .20 now.. I read it as .50
[19:25] <cprofitt> not sure when the new driver is due or if Ubuntu will bundle the 295.20
[19:25] <cprofitt> I gotta run for hom... scouts tonight...
[19:25] <cprofitt> see you all later.
[19:28] <popey> mhall119: ooh, childsplay is packaged
[19:28] <mhall119> popey: has been for years
[19:28] <jussi> popey: what is childsplay? ?
[19:28]  * popey installs on the netbooks
[19:28] <popey> hope they cope
[19:28] <mhall119> jussi: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/childsplay/
[19:29]  * popey installs gcompis also
[19:29] <popey> although the womans voice annoys me and sophie
[19:29] <mhall119> popey: and tuxpaint too, right?
[19:29] <popey> they have tuxpaint and ktuberling
[19:29] <jussi> popey: oh, cool
[19:30] <mhall119> popey: install gnucap with gcompris
[19:30] <popey> wossat?
[19:30] <popey> !info gnucap
[19:30] <popey> bah, no bot
[19:31] <jussi> do we normally have a bot here?
[19:31] <popey> be nice if we did
[19:31] <popey> bug 1
[19:31] <ubot2> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[19:31] <popey> oh
[19:31] <popey> we do
[19:31] <mhall119> popey: gnucap is an electrical circuit analysys library
[19:32] <mhall119> but you'll need it for one of the gcompris boards: http://gcompris.net/en-electric
[19:32] <jussi> oh, its that one :P
[19:35] <popey> bah
[19:35] <popey> childsplay doesn't fit on the screen
[19:36] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-January/206683.html aha!
[19:36] <popey> that list has uses sometimes
[19:44]  * popey wonders where his .desktop file is
[19:44] <popey> to add --fullscreen to this
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[19:48] <jcastro> cjohnston: the importer from launchpad is running every X minutes/hours into the schedule
[19:48] <jcastro> cjohnston: please solve for X
[19:49] <cjohnston> I believe 15 or 20m
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[20:01] <popey> right, how do you edit .desktop files in unity2d!?
[20:02] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/40939/how-to-edit-desktop-files-in-unity-2d \o/ AU
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[20:07] <mhall119> popey: "in a text editor"?
[20:07] <paultag> zing.
[20:12] <mhall119> I'm still not sure i understand the question, but it appears they are happy with one of the given answers
[20:17] <jcastro> that looks wrong
[20:17] <jcastro> it should be the same as normal unity right?
[20:17] <jcastro> usr/share/applications and .config/share applications right?
[20:20] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, which is why I don't understand
[20:21] <jcastro> flagged