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pittiGood morning03:48
pittislangasek: I can remove 628104 from the dupe db, so that apport will take the next incoming bug as the new master bug03:50
pittislangasek: done03:56
Sarvattpitti: thats possible? could you do the same for 933504? its sucking up unrelated bugs and the retracer is deleting the good stacktrace info from the dupes that are unrelated. i filed 2 completely unrelated bugs that got duped to it and have been fixed in the meantime04:11
pittiSarvatt: sure, removing04:11
Sarvattpitti: thank you so much, i've been struggling to figure out why apport was duping in that sitation and doko's bug everything is getting duped to has been fixed for months, a new master bug with current issues will help04:17
Sarvattit would be extremely nice if it didnt remove stacktraces btw when it decides its a duplicate :)04:19
pittiSarvatt: that's a tradeoff we need to decide about04:19
pittiSarvatt: making duplicate bugs public automatically, or keeping stack traces in dupes04:19
Sarvatttheres situations where stacktraces need to be private?04:21
Sarvatti never see them so seems strange to me, deleting the core dump should be enough04:21
pittiyes, they can potentially contain passwords, credentials, or other private information04:21
pittithat might also be project names you are working on, etc.04:22
pittiapport anonymizes the initial information that it sends (home directory, wifi passwords, and the like)04:22
pittibut we don't anonymize stack traces04:22
pitti(because that's a hard and fuzzy problem)04:23
lifelesspitti: you need to make the master public04:23
lifelesspitti: we pay a continual cost due to it not being public.04:23
lifelesss/you/we/04:23
pittiwith ev's whoopsie DB this will hopefully be better soon04:23
pittias it can potentially offer more fine-grained control to data than a LP bug04:24
pittiso that we can keep the dupes private in LP as well, or not have them in the first place any more, etc.04:24
pittibut yes, there is also bug 76441404:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 764414 in apport (Ubuntu) "private master bugs are confusing and lead to more duplicate filings" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76441404:24
pittithe second part there got mitigated by client-side dupe detection, but "confusing" still stands04:25
pittijamespage: hey04:31
pittijamespage: I just noticed that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=0 has a 6 month old jonas-full-5.2 upload from you; is that still relevant?04:31
pittiSarvatt: btw, there is one trick -- close the main master bug (fix released, invalid, etc.)04:41
pittiSarvatt: then the next duplicate that comes in will become a new master bug, and apport just points out "this looks like that bug ---> over there, but that is already fixed"04:41
RAOFThat's also super-confusing, though.04:43
Sarvattpitti: i needed confirmation from the reporter that it was fixed to actually close it even though i know its fixed and he hasnt responded, doko was hitting the eglibc bug months ago :)04:44
Sarvatti guess just closing it is appropriate at this point04:46
slangasekpitti: thanks!  Is there a way that this should be self-service, like bug patterns were before?06:11
pittislangasek: it's a bit harder, as you need sudo -u ubuntu-archive -i on osageorange06:12
pittislangasek: i. e. you can06:12
pittislangasek: for the layman developer it's either "close the old master bug" or "ping seb128 or me"06:12
slangasekhmm, ok06:12
slangasekwell, even when the master bug was closed, users were apparently being directed there06:12
pittiah, I guess they would, yes06:14
pittiso in many case this is actually right, especially for bugs which got fixed recently and people are still running older versions (or older releases)06:16
pittiso for the "that master bug needs a new stack trace" case that doesn't work06:16
pittislangasek: we could make it self-service with a tag like apport-nodup or apport-newtrace06:17
slangasekI think that might be best06:17
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dupondjecould someone check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/95296406:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 952964 in remmina (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Mouse Wheel does not work in RDP (12.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:35
dupondjethx :)06:35
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evDo we have a general approach for handling not being able to lock /etc/passwd in a postinst?07:55
jamespagepitti, I'd not realised that had not actually landed in oneiric...08:14
diwicjibel, ping08:19
jibeldiwic, pong08:19
diwicjibel, in bug 981149 you claim that your headset shows a digital profile. Could you file a separate bug for your issue with "ubuntu-bug pulseaudio" and point me to it?08:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 981149 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashed with SIGABRT in pa_sink_input_finish_move()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98114908:20
jibeldiwic, ack08:20
diwicjibel, if you do so the bug report will contain the name string needed to put in /usr/share/alsa/cards/USB-Audio.con08:20
diwicf08:20
jibeldiwic, bug 98716308:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 987163 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Logitech H800 wireless headset shows digital profile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98716308:23
diwicjibel, thanks! I will collect these and make an SRU out of them08:25
jibeldiwic, is it the name I should but in USB-audio.conf "Logitech Logitech Wireless Headset at usb-0000:00:16.0-4, full speed" ?08:25
diwicjibel, the string is: "Logitech Wireless Headset" 99908:25
jibels/but/put08:26
jibeldiwic, ok, thanks!08:26
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jibeldoko, ping10:24
dokojibel, hi10:32
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jdstrand_roaksoax: hi! I was reviewing the maas-provision changes and wonder why you install the apparmor profile disabled?12:14
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dupondjeIts so silent here today :)12:16
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hrwhi13:01
hrwI know it is late but bug 890928 could get fixed by syncing newer version from debian.13:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 890928 in libxkbfile (Ubuntu) "When trying to install libxkbfile1:i386 the pkg manager asks to remove too many important packages [Multi-arch]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89092813:02
ScottKhrw: It will have to be uploaded to precise-proposed at this point.  Too late for a straight sync.13:07
hrwScottK: 1.0.8-1 can be accepted in -proposed?13:09
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pittinote that we can sync into -proposed, but that needs some extra bookkeeping as the changelog wouldn't have a LP bug ref13:13
pittimultiarchification doesn't need a new upstream release, though13:13
ScottKFor proposed it should be the minimal change to solve the problem.13:16
dupondjecould someone check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/952964 ?13:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 952964 in remmina (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Mouse Wheel does not work in RDP/VNC (12.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:18
seb128dupondje, that seems fine for a SRU, can you subscribe ubuntu-sponsors so it doesn't get lost?13:20
seb128oh, it's already done13:20
dupondjequite annoying bug :) seems like it affects quite some people also13:21
hrwScottK: so debdiff from bug should be fine as it has only multiarch stuff in it13:22
seb128dupondje, yeah, as said SRU should be no problem for it13:22
seb128dupondje, it's too late for non SRU uploads13:22
ScottKhrw: Without looking, I'd say yes.  Please make sure ubuntu-sponsors is subscribed.13:23
dupondjeas long it gets uploaded i'm happy :D13:23
hrwScottK: they are13:25
ScottKOK.13:26
StevenKstgraber: Can I be unsubscribed from ISO testing? The website says the page is still in progress.13:30
stgraberStevenK: sure13:33
stgraberStevenK: done13:33
dupondjeseb128: another small question, I see that clipboard doesn't work neither in Remmina. better to have 2 uploads or 1 with both fixed ?13:34
seb128dupondje, one with both fixed is fine if you are confident with the fixes13:34
dupondjewell scrolling is fixed (and accepted upstream also). Need to check how to fix clipboard :)13:35
StevenKstgraber: Thanks!13:37
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mterryName for Q announced: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=112114:01
jussiyeah... we always knew it would be strange :P14:02
kklimondaQQ moar ;)14:05
dokojamespage, online?14:06
jamespagedoko, yep14:07
mterrykklimonda, hah, never thought of the opportunity for QQ jokes14:07
pittimterry: at last!14:33
mterrypitti, right up to the wire.  :)14:34
pittiafter so many alliterations my head is smoking now :)14:38
pitti"quantal" as an adjective is barely in the dictionary..14:39
barrypitti: once again, my own suggestion isn't even mentioned: qwazy quahog14:43
pittimhall119: could you jump into #ubuntu-desktop for a bit, please?14:52
roaksoaxjdstrand: howdy!! TBH I used the changes in packaging of rsyslog for the apparmor installation in maas-provision. However, given tha aa-status showed that the profile was being enforced I didn't think it was really disabled15:59
IntuitiveNippleIs anyone looking at the grub2 regression where grub fails to function on mdraid devices (LP: #987354 Debian 668920) after an upgrade to Precise?15:59
ubottuDebian bug 668920 in grub-pc "grub-pc: grub 1.99-21 fails to detect mdraid partitions" [Critical,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/66892015:59
cjwatsonIntuitiveNipple: Usually that's due to incorrect installation location.  'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and make sure all disks your system might boot from are selected.16:00
cjwatsonEvery time there's an ABI change between GRUB core and modules we get a flurry of this kind of question.16:00
cjwatsonWhich does indicate a problem somewhere, probably, but not where most people think it is :-)16:01
IntuitiveNipplecjwatson: Yes, I noticed your comment on the Debian bug. I'm trying to identify a way to recover at the grub rescue prompt right now since the server has no alternate boot means16:02
IntuitiveNipplecjwatson: I'm delving into the changes since -17 right now, I'll see what I can find16:02
cjwatsonLike I say, there's an ABI change since -17.16:02
cjwatsonSo if your GRUB is improperly installed, you might have core image and modules that no longer know how to talk to each other.16:03
cjwatsonhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell16:03
cjwatsonThere may not be a way to recover from there alone, although you might get lucky somehow.16:04
IntuitiveNipplecjwatson: It's annoying since about the only rescue command that works is "set" !16:04
jdstrandroaksoax: I think you didn't unload it or something in your testing-- aa-status didn't show it as loaded here. It couldn't get loaded by the packaging because you specified the wrong file to dh-apparmor16:06
jdstrandroaksoax: see my changes in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=16:07
jdstrandroaksoax: also, please see bug #98737416:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 987374 in maas-provision (Ubuntu) "apparmor denials when using 'maas-import-isos'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98737416:08
jdstrandroaksoax: I mentioned this to Daviey in #ubuntu-release already16:08
IntuitiveNipplecjwatson: I've just found a neat workaround to get booted... in BIOS I changed the order of the first two hard disks around on the premise that only the 2nd half of the mirror had been updated by grub-pc. It's allowed the server to boot so I can now at least sort it out16:10
cjwatsonMakes sense16:12
cjwatsonSo now fix things in 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and that won't happen again16:12
IntuitiveNippleSaves having to open the system and put in a CD-ROM16:12
IntuitiveNippleYeah. I'll look to see what precisely is wrong with the existing configuration now16:12
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jdstrand@pilot in16:27
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Adri2000cjwatson: out of curiosity, why did you add Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2) for dpkg-maintscript-helper in horizon? horizon is only in precise and dpkg-maintscript-helper has been available for the last few releases, so I don't see in what use cases it could be useful. except if we support a single apt operation which would do lucid->precise _and_ install horizon, in which case horizon could be configured with a too old dpkg16:31
cjwatsonAdri2000: Because it's much easier to make sure every single package in the archive has that than to worry about exceptions.16:32
cjwatsonAdri2000: This way I could just say "http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/preinst-uses-dpkg-maintscript-helper-without-predepends.html is empty, job done".16:32
cjwatsonAnd it clearly does no harm.16:33
cjwatsonAnd yes, in theory an upgrade with, say, dselect or aptitude might install horizon before upgrading dpkg.  It doesn't hurt to be more correct.16:33
roaksoaxjdstrand: yeah i'm working on bug #98737416:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 987374 in maas-provision (Ubuntu) "apparmor denials when using 'maas-import-isos'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98737416:34
jdstrandroaksoax: cool, thanks16:34
Adri2000cjwatson: ok. I missed the fact that lintian complains with an error about this; indeed it makes no harm to fix that everywhere16:36
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hallyncjwatson: hey, i'm installing from usb (first from the desktop installer, now the alternate) onto a lenovo x130e.  i keep booting into rescue mode and running'grub-install /dev/sda', but booting from hd i immediately get "Missing operating system".  Have you seen that before?17:25
hallyn(googling is not helping)17:27
hallyni guess i can try the server iso (xferred to usb), and then pxe, but i'm getting the feeling this is some uefi thing17:27
hallyni did turn off uefi in bios17:27
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cjwatsonhallyn: no.  make sure you have grub-pc installed not grub-efi* if you intend to boot from BIOS17:31
cjwatsonotherwise don't know ...17:31
hallyncjwatson: well first it had uefi enabled, same failure17:36
hallynright now it's installing server iamge from pxe, will see how that goes17:36
hallynthen will look for grub-pc17:36
roaksoaxjdstrand: so if cobblerd runs dnsmasq, do I also have to add all the permissions for dnsmasq in the cobbler apparmor profile?17:59
slangasekroaksoax: what do you mean by "permissions for dnsmasq"?18:02
slangasekcobblerd's profile needs to have access to run dnsmasq18:02
slangasekand dnsmasq may be confined, but doesn't inherit18:02
roaksoaxslangasek: right, so this is what I'm adding to cobbler's appamor profile: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/942885/18:04
jdstrandroaksoax: no. don't do that18:04
slangasekright.  cobbler needs permission to execute /usr/sbin/dnsmasq, it should *not* be given write access to dnsmasq's own config.18:05
jdstrandroaksoax: I mean, you *could*, but the mir doesn't require dnsmasq to be confined and you are adding additional privileges to cobbler18:05
jdstrandroaksoax: how is it starting dnsmasq? via its initscript?18:06
roaksoaxjdstrand: ok then, it is starting it with service dnsmasq start18:06
roaksoaxjdstrand: thought this will only be an issue when someone installs maas-dhcp18:06
jdstrandroaksoax: service uses the initscript?18:09
hallyncjwatson: well i can't explain it.  installing from mini-iso through pxe worked fine.  That's after 4 installation attempts from usb.  Dunno what could be different.  Hope it was "just me" and not indicative of future bug reports18:10
roaksoaxjdstrand: nope, dnsmasq is started with service dnsmasq start, but it also uses /etc/init.d/dnsamsq status18:10
bdmurraywhat more should happen with bug 985462?18:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 985462 in apt (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Estonian mirror broken (again!)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98546218:12
jdstrandroaksoax: I suggest starting with something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/942898/18:14
jdstrandroaksoax: that uses a child profile for service. You will probably have to add a few things to the dnsmasq_service child profile, but the idea is keep the cobbler profile confined and then just let dnsmasq do its thing18:15
roaksoaxjdstrand: right, so, all the files that cobbler read/writes for dnsmasq should be added in the parent profile then18:21
jdstrandroaksoax: yes. if cobbler is writing out files for dnsmasq configuration, you need to let it do that in the parent18:23
roaksoaxjdstrand: after adding the child profile, realoding apparmor and running cobbler sync, this is shown in syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/942914/18:23
jdstrandroaksoax: please paste the full profile18:24
roaksoaxjdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/942917/18:25
jdstrandroaksoax: you probably just need to add this to the child profile: #include <abstractions/base>18:25
jdstrandroaksoax: yes, please add that18:26
roaksoaxjdstrand: now I get file_mprotect18:30
roaksoaxerr18:30
roaksoaxapparmor="DENIED" operation="file_mprotect" parent=31733 profile="/usr/bin/cobblerd//dnsmasq_service" name="/bin/dash" pid=31734 comm="service" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=018:30
jdstrandroaksoax: yep, add #include <abstractions/bash>18:31
jdstrandroaksoax: and also "/bin/dash ixr,"18:31
cjwatsonhallyn: PXE would be BIOS, but in the USB case the installer might be booted using UEFI, in which case it reasonably assumes that it should install that way too18:33
roaksoaxjdstrand: ok had to add a couple more things: http://paste.ubuntu.com/942936/18:34
jdstrandroaksoax: can you use this instead:18:34
jdstrand/usr/sbin/service ixr,18:35
jdstrand/usr/bin/basename ixr,18:35
hallyncjwatson: main other difference was that every time from usb i did manual partitioning with first 120G as ext4 /, from pxe i just said 'do what you want'18:35
hallyncjwatson: like i say for most of the usb installs it was still the default (uefi)18:35
roaksoaxjdstrand: cool! thanks for the help. I'll test this in a clean install18:35
hallynso i'm afraid i can't be the only one who'll hit this.  but i don't understand it enough to file a bug, i think18:35
jdstrandroaksoax: I was hoping to limit cobbler use of 'service' to be only dnsmasq, and the Uxr on service would allow it to do anything I think18:36
jdstrandroaksoax: did the ixr for 'service' and 'basename' work for you?18:36
roaksoaxjdstrand: they did18:36
jdstrandroaksoax: awesome :)18:36
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roaksoaxjdstrand: indeed!! thanks! I'll test it again to make sure i'm not missing anything18:37
jdstrandroaksoax: I'm betting you will want /usr/share/distro-info/ubuntu.csv r, to be /usr/share/distro-info/*csv r,18:37
jdstrandroaksoax: just in case going forward18:38
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roaksoaxjdstrand: ok so this should be it. Could you please also test it when you have the time? Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/943031/19:24
jdstrandroaksoax: you need writes to /usr/lib/syslinux/** ?19:25
jdstrandroaksoax: I see /etc/xinetd.d/tftp rw as well-- aren't we using tftp-hpa?19:26
jdstrandroaksoax: (not to mention, we don't use xinet.d)19:26
jdstrandroaksoax: maybe for those use this instead:19:26
jdstranddeny /etc/xinetd.d/ rw,19:27
jdstranddeny /etc/xinetd.d/tftp rw,19:27
roaksoaxjdstrand: 1. rw to syslink, in theory not really since it hardlinks from there to /var/lib/tftpboot, but for some reason if w is not there, then it fails to hardlink19:27
jussibdrung: thats it, Im quoting you :P19:27
jussi(re: meeting just now :P )19:27
bdrungjussi: everything else are features ;)19:28
roaksoaxjdstrand: xinitd, cobbler sync fails if it cannot create that dir, as, even though we are using tftp-hpa, cobbler code still creates the dir/file19:28
jussi"senior ubuntu developer claims ubuntu is bug free, world peace is near!"19:29
jdstrandroaksoax: hrm-- the xineted stuff should ideally be ripped out of maas-provision, but for this, can you just add a comment on why it is needed19:29
jdstrandroaksoax: re syslinux> is it hardlinking the directory or various stuff under it?19:29
jdstrandroaksoax: this is also scary: /boot/memtest* rwl,19:31
roaksoaxjdstrand: syslinux --> various stuff under it19:31
roaksoaxjdstrand: yeah!! same as syslinux though19:32
roaksoaxjdstrand: it hardlinks from /boot/memtest* to /var/lib/tftpboot/images/19:32
jdstrandroaksoax: I guess the hardlink is needed because of /var/lib/tftpboot is a chroot. is that accurate?19:33
roaksoaxjdstrand: yes19:33
jdstrandman19:33
jdstrandthat stinks19:34
roaksoaxjdstrand: indeed19:34
jdstrandroaksoax: not to mention it completely breaks if /boot or /var are on different partitions19:35
jdstrandroaksoax: while I don't like it, I think I could live with the writes for xinetd and /usr/lib/syslinux (yuck though!), but I find the /boot bit unacceptable. that could affect the host in significant ways. can you just changes those to shutil.copy from /boot into /var/lib/tftpboot/<wherever>19:38
jdstrandroaksoax: wherever it does the hard link, just change it to a copy. I think a bug in memtest* being out of date until a cobbler sync is better than an avenue for cobbler to trojan the host19:39
roaksoaxjdstrand: alright! I'll do that ;)19:39
jdstrandroaksoax: with that change and a couple of comments for syslinux and xinetd, it looks great. thank you for all your work on this :)19:39
bdmurrayslangasek: what is supposed to happen when you insert a 12.04 cd into an 11.10 system?19:41
slangasekbdmurray: a running system, or booting from it?19:42
bdmurrayslangasek: a running system?19:42
bdmurrayer s/?//19:42
slangasekif it's an alternate CD it should give you the option to upgrade19:42
roaksoaxjdstrand: awesome! will do. Thank you for the review!19:42
slangasekif it's a desktop CD, probably not much19:42
jdstrandnp19:42
slangasekbdmurray: I guess a desktop CD would be presented as an apt source19:42
bdmurraya desktop cd ended up launching synaptic for me19:43
bdmurrayI had forgotten about the alternate / desktop distinction19:43
slangasekhmm19:43
slangasekI'm not sure why it would launch synaptic19:43
bdmurraywell it looks like this is executed19:43
bdmurray /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/update-notifier/backend_helper.py add_cdrom /media/Ubuntu\ 11.10\ i38619:43
bdmurrayanyway I didn't run into bug 94671819:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946718 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "backend_helper.py crashed with RuntimeError in add_signal_receiver(): To make asynchronous calls, receive signals or export objects, D-Bus connections must be attached to a main loop by passing mainloop=... to the constructor or calling dbus.set_default_main_loop(...)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94671819:44
slangasekhmm, ok19:45
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roaksoaxjdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943148/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/943147/20:44
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jdstrandroaksoax: looks good to me :) do you need someone to sponsor it?20:50
roaksoaxjdstrand: nope :) thanks though!20:53
jdstrandnp :)20:53
slangasekjdstrand, roaksoax: hrm, so is this maas-provision upload to -proposed expected to make it onto the CD?21:03
slangasekmmm and why does soyuz say maas-provision is now in both universe and main?21:05
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ScottKslangasek: Because it's in universe in -release and main in -proposed.21:09
slangasekScottK: no, I'm seeing it in -release...21:09
slangasekin both in -release21:09
jdstrandslangasek: roaksoax is uploading an ubuntu4 that should be on the CD aiui. the maas-provision in precise-proposed satisifies the mir requirements, so I put it in main. ubuntu2 in the archive does not, so I left it alone21:10
ScottKHmm. different revisions?21:10
ScottKMaybe ubuntu2 just didn't get tossed out yet?21:10
jdstrandslangasek: so, I accidentally put the one in release in main, but later fixed that21:10
jdstrandand then put the one in -proposed in main21:10
slangasekjdstrand: ah.  Did you do that within a single publishing cycle?  That may be what's confused the world21:11
slangasekok, so we weren't actually ready to respin server because the maas-provision we care about is the one in -proposed still21:11
jdstrandslangasek: I put ubuntu2 in -release in one cycle and -ubuntu3 in -proposed to main/-ubuntu2 -release to universe in another21:11
jdstrandslangasek: re respin> correct> but note that even though ubuntu3 in prposed satisifies the mir requirement, it does not satisfy the server team's quality requirement. roaksoax's ubuntu4 will do that21:12
jdstrandslangasek: (aiui)21:12
jdstrand@pilot out21:34
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kklimondajono: hey, are you around?22:42
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