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micahgDaviey: any chance that you were planning on updating to the latest asterisk?  gmime2.4 depends on it and 4 other packages06:18
micahgDaviey: err..I meant that the other way, it's a reverse dependency of gmime2.406:18
ScottKmicahg: I think he confessed to it on -release a few hours ago.06:20
micahgScottK: I assumed that was just to fix the RC bug :)06:22
ScottKOh.  Yes.  Probably.06:23
* micahg is trying to get rid of gmime, but might run out of time, need to do seamonkey as well06:23
micahg*gmime2.406:24
micahgany objections to removing google-glog? (removed in Debian)06:54
micahgFTBFS on armhf06:55
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Laneymicahg: ScottK: I think the path being considered to fix that bug is a wholesale update.08:12
Laneyremoving stuff removed in debian> no, all's the better as far as I'm concerned08:13
Laneymodulo the unlikely situation that someone is actively maintaining it08:13
micahgbroder: ISTR you have a script to close the bugs for EOL backports, could you run that for maverick-backports when you get a chance?08:27
Laneycan reverse-depends output source packages as well as take them on input?08:38
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tumbleweedLaney: no. We don't have good ways of mapping source<->binary09:28
Laneytumbleweed: does your web service look at Sources already? It's in there09:29
tumbleweedno, it gets the source->binary mappings from LP, but that's buggy (it breaks on build failures)09:29
Laneyalso, got any nice lists of issues for a -devel mail?09:30
* Laney has FTBFS and rcbugs09:30
tumbleweedsource->binary and binary->source is probably best done as a separate service09:30
tumbleweedthere's also debcheck, but practicall,y FTBFS and rcbugs probably matter more right now09:31
Laneyye09:31
ltaverasim looking for some advice on how to reactivate dominican republic loco team09:41
ltaverasany help will be appreciate09:41
ltaverasmy email lisander.reyes@claro.net.do09:43
ltaveras<ltaveras> thanks09:43
Laneyltaveras: You'll probably get better help in #ubuntu-locoteams09:44
ltaverasi was there but no one answer09:45
LaneyI'm afraid this channel isn't going to be much help — it's not really anything to do with loco teams.09:45
Laneytry and mail the loco council's mailing list.09:46
tumbleweedMOTU hasn't been particularly effective at reactivating itself, never mind courting non-developers :P09:46
ltaverasdo you have council emails addres09:46
Laneyloco-council@lists.ubuntu.com09:47
ltaverasthanks a lot laney, you so kind09:47
Laneynp, good luck09:48
tumbleweedLaney: thanks for the mail. There's been so much stuff I intended to do before release... :/09:48
Laneyyeah, I know the feeling09:48
LaneyI stayed in my corner(s) a bit much09:49
Laneyho hum09:49
tumbleweedcopious amounts of free time, lol :)09:49
cjwatsonRhonda,micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wesnoth-1.8/+bug/982534/comments/5 FYI12:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 982534 in wesnoth-1.8 (Ubuntu) "Please remove wesnoth-1.8 from precise" [Undecided,Fix released]12:00
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porthose_spiderWould a release team member please comment on bug #983300 thx :)15:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 983300 in rhythmbox-ampache (Ubuntu) "plugin doesn't show up in rhythmbox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98330015:48
tumbleweedporthose_spider: looks like stgraber just did15:50
tumbleweedbdrung_: why does distro-info suggest shunit2?16:52
tumbleweedre the last minute django FFe, I see a whole bunch of django FTBFSs filed in Debian last week (behind on my e-mail). I can't say I'm very suprised.17:01
jtayloruniverse is not frozen yet or?17:03
tumbleweednot yet. We have ~24 hours left17:04
jtayloris there a need for builders in the next hours? I wanted to fix a minor scipy issue but it builds quite long17:05
tumbleweedwe just got a bunch of new builders, so I wouldn't worry17:05
Laneyftbfs after the upgrade?17:05
tumbleweedLaney: there was no coordinated transition in Debian, just an upload17:05
Laneyhoho17:05
jtaylorLaney: directed at me?17:06
Laneyno17:06
valleslezardssalut17:29
jtaylorhm maybe I should still update matplotlib to git head it does add a couple for medium bugs and is probably simplifies the sru17:34
jtaylor*bugfixes17:34
jtayloron the other hand I have no idea how to generate the orig tar :/17:42
tumbleweeddoes setup.py sdist not do the right thing?17:44
tumbleweedthey have a MANIFEST.in, so I'd assume someone uses it17:45
jtaylorthere is an extra sample data tarball, but from the mailing list it seems its the same as 1.1.017:45
jtaylorso I can probably reuse that17:45
tumbleweedhttps://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/blob/master/Makefile#L2217:46
jtaylorso you don't think its a bad idea to still do that?17:49
tumbleweedI haven't reviewed the diff17:51
jtaylorits only a couple hundred lines17:52
tumbleweedwhat's the plan? Any link to an FFe bug?17:53
jtaylorits bugfix only17:54
tumbleweedgo for it :)17:54
tumbleweedyou are talking about an SRU, though?17:55
tumbleweedare we expecting some major bugfixes?17:55
jtaylorno17:55
jtaylorI currently talking about updating to git branch head now to make a potential sru simpler17:55
jtaylorbecause when we sru we might as well go to 1.1.1 final (which is bugfix only)17:56
tumbleweedoh, right, we are currently on an rc17:56
tumbleweedyeah, sneak some updates in17:56
jtaylorhead as also aged almost a week since the last commit to it, should be safe17:57
bdrung_tumbleweed: because it's needed to run the test cases18:35
tumbleweedbdrung_: but that's at build time18:36
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bdrungtumbleweed: the tests are installed too18:37
tumbleweedI don't Suggest nose when I install a python unit test18:37
tumbleweedbdrung: btw, prepared all the distro-info updates, but I can't do the precise upload, it's in main. Would you mind?18:38
jtaylorok now  have the problem how to upload a 33mb package with a 12kb/s connection18:41
highvoltageeek18:41
jtaylorI can't use alioth as I need the full b-d for a full sdist :/18:42
tumbleweedcopy a pristine-tar delta and rebuild on alioth?18:42
jtaylorthats a good option18:43
jtayloror xdelta might be simpler18:44
jtaylornot installed on ali :(18:44
jtaylortumbleweed: can I send you a delta, you apply and upload it to ali wher eI can read it?18:45
tumbleweedjtaylor: sure :)18:45
ScottKjtaylor: around?18:53
jtaylorScottK: yes18:53
ScottKjtaylor: Please upload python-scipy again without the wrap-and-sort.  It makes the diff very hard to review and doesn't really add anything.18:53
ScottKAt this point you should be going for minimal diffs to affect needed changes.18:54
jtaylorScottK: that was for easier merge after P18:54
jtaylordebian has added the sorting18:54
ScottKIf you change it both in Debian and Ubuntu you'll get a merge conflict.18:54
jtaylorbut I can do it without a sync will probably work anyway18:55
ScottKThanks.18:55
tumbleweedScottK: thoughts on matploblib? ^^18:55
ScottKmatplotlib bug fixes sound good.18:57
bdrungtumbleweed: done18:57
tumbleweedbdrung: great. I should have given the debian upload a higher urgency. Only realised later. We should ask for an early migration...18:58
* bdrung nods.18:59
jtaylormore problems, xdelta3 does not create the same md5sum as it uses gzip without -n ._.19:02
ScottKAlternately, take the upstream commits and cherry pick them as patches.19:03
ScottKThat gets the fixes in and no worry about tarball recreation or uploading.19:03
tumbleweedthat's how doko handles python2.X19:03
jtaylorhm the diff contains binary, though they are probably rebuilt from source19:05
jtayloror someone creates a orig.tar for me which I can download, download is much faster19:10
jtaylorits just python setup.py sdist --formats=gztar with all b-d installed19:11
ockhami've downloaded a library package from Debian experimental, built it for precise, and am now trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building_With_Local_Packages so i can dget another package from experimental that depends on the lib, and build that for precise, too . unfortunately, the library package ends up in /var/cache/archive/experimental -- as its target is of course set to experimental in the changelog. how can i work around19:14
ockham this? i don't need to bump the changelog, do i?19:14
ockhami should probably say this is on oneiric; building is done using cowbuilder19:15
jtaylorlets see if bzr works19:17
tumbleweedjtaylor: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/stefanor/matplotlib-1.2.x.tar.gz19:17
jtaylortumbleweed: I need the 1.1.x branch :/19:18
tumbleweedah19:18
tumbleweedhttp://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/stefanor/matplotlib-1.1.1rc.tar.gz19:19
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jtaylorthx thats perfect19:40
jtaylorgreat it apparently does not build19:56
tumbleweedthat would be too easy :P19:57
jtaylorit just hangs with no error, the best type of error ._.20:00
ockhamanyone? ^20:13
tumbleweedockham: copy it to precise?20:14
ScottKjtaylor: Much easier.  Thanks.  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/102923884/python-scipy_0.9.0%2Bdfsg1-1ubuntu1_0.9.0%2Bdfsg1-1ubuntu2.diff.gz is my kind of diff to review.20:14
jtaylor^^20:14
jtaylorwell I don't have time to debug this matplotlib issue20:17
jtaylorif someone does go ahead20:17
ockhamtumbleweed: and that's enough? no messing with Sources.gz etc?20:22
tumbleweedockham: what is your /var/cache/archive ?20:22
tumbleweedif it has a Sources.gz that sounds like it's maintained by reprepro / mini-dinstall / something20:22
ockhamyes, mini-dinstall. as suggested by that wiki page20:27
tumbleweedcan you not override mini-dinstall to install it into precise?20:27
tumbleweedif you can't, just edit teh changes file (syncpackage --no-lp should make that easy)20:28
ockhami'm new to mini-dinstall -- any clue how to override it? otherwise, i guess i'll just try the latter idea.20:29
* tumbleweed doesn't know it either20:31
tumbleweedbut presumably it has documentation :P20:31
bregmaits documentation in regards to overrides ranges from sorely lacking to bad20:40
ockhamyup, that's what i thought, too, after skimming over the manpage20:41
tumbleweedbroder: am I ever going to get a stripe tshirt? :) (no sign of it yet, but a local friend get his a few weeks back)21:10
brodertumbleweed: you should have gotten it already. give me a sec - i'll look into it21:34
broder(they should have all been sent out >3 weeks ago by now)21:34
tumbleweedthanks21:53
* Laney directs broder towards bug #98598121:56
Laney:P21:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 985981 in mosh (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu patch fo "Add ufw integration"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98598121:56
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broderLaney: i don't really know ufw, but seems fine from my context-free reading21:58
LaneyI thought you had a relationship with the maintainer, perhaps he would take it (Debian has ufw)21:58
broderi do, and i'm happy to bounce it to him21:59
Laneydoes it really need all of those ports open?21:59
broderit chooses one randomly21:59
Laneyhrm21:59
tumbleweedfor the firewall, it would probably be preferable to use a *far* smaler range22:01
broderftr, this is a step up from the original implementation, which picked a completely random port :)22:02
broder(you can also specify a single port to use manually)22:03
broderanyway, i can do some quick testing of the patch and sponsor it in...probably a few hours, if that's not too late for unseeded FF. or i can not, if you guys think the port range is too sketchy22:06
broderand i can forward it onto upstream in either case22:06
broder(along with your concerns)22:07
LaneyI would leave it for P and see what we can do later on22:08
broderk22:08
StevenKLaney: Q, even?22:08
Laneyleave it until Q22:08
Laney:P22:08
broderwell, we're leaving it [as is] for P :)22:08
StevenKRight22:08
ScottKQuantal.22:08
ScottKStart getting used to it.22:09
* Laney didn't learn how to spell Oneiric for about 6 weeks22:09
StevenKHaha22:09
EvilResistanceo.O  Laney, that's just...22:09
EvilResistancesad i think is the word...22:09
Laneyerm.22:09
ScottKI'm glad I was at UDS O.  If it wasn't for the One Eye Rick bit in the keynote, I don't know that I'd have ever gotten it.22:10
jtaylorthank good for vim syntax highlight :)22:10
broderHaha. That was a pretty great keynote22:10
* jtaylor wants pypy powered sphinx, bisecting matplotlib is so slow ...22:11
jtaylorgreat scipy build failure22:12
tumbleweedhave you seen how pypy upstream recommends using matplotlib?22:12
jtaylorembeding cpython in it or?22:12
tumbleweedyeah, crazy shit22:12
tumbleweedhttp://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/12/plotting-using-matplotlib-from-pypy.html22:12
jtayloris arm broken shortly before release?22:13
jtaylorthe scipy diff cannot have caused a failure ...22:13
jtaylorhurray found the bad commit22:16
jtaylorsome threading thing who would ahve guessed ...22:16
tumbleweedand the scipy failure?22:17
jtaylorno idea22:19
* tumbleweed pokes at it22:20
jtaylorsomeone got a working arm chroot?22:23
jtaylorthe last build succeeded, so its either an regression in some low level library or a last minute new feature22:24
jtaylornot to critical the bugfix is minor and we can just probably just poke the build when the issue has been found22:24
* tumbleweed has a worknig chroot, but don't know if it'll build scipy. Finding out...22:25
jtaylorI'd like to see the content of that stat.h22:25
jtaylortumbleweed: you can probably just execute that one failing line instead of the full build22:27
jtaylormaybe also try with the dpkg from 5 days ago22:28
tumbleweedjtaylor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943267/22:28
tumbleweedjtaylor: I'm waiting for 100MB of build deps...22:28
jtayloroo22:28
tumbleweedbut yes, I'll try that22:28
jtaylorhm no change since ubuntu6 in libc22:37
tumbleweedhrm, gcc happily builds that file for me22:48
jtaylornice22:48
tumbleweednot really22:49
tumbleweedlets see if a complete build succeeds22:49
SpamapStumbleweed: btw, thanks for wrapping up the virtualenv thing :)22:50
tumbleweedSpamapS: np22:50
tumbleweedjtaylor: is the C regenerated during the build?22:51
jtaylorwell at least I got matplotlib to build now22:51
jtaylornot sure22:51
tumbleweedno, looks hand-written22:52
jtaylorI guess I have a patch for matplotlib but its probably to late to get upstream reply :/22:55
tumbleweedthey can be quite responsive. poke them on IRC22:55
tumbleweedwhee, ICE23:16
tumbleweed*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6/f951: free(): invalid pointer: 0x008c38f8 ***23:16
* tumbleweed leaves that one for people crazier than me (or with real arm hardware) and goes to bed23:17
jtaylorthanks for checking23:19
jtaylorI'll still upload matplotlib and go too, if my patch is wrong that at least gives me a reason to sru to final ;)23:20
ajmitchLaney: so when will the unseeded universe freeze be?23:51

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