[00:41] <jrgifford> canthus13: ah yeah, that'd be fun.
[02:24] <yano> what is the release date for the final release of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[02:25] <yano> Ubuntu needs this, https://fedoraproject.org/en/counter hehe
[02:29] <toddc> thursday april 26
[02:33] <Unit193> yano: Like this http://xubuntu.org/news/the-countdown-is-on/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown ? ;)
[02:34] <yano> ooh, cool
[02:35] <Unit193> jrgifford: Oh, since you're here now I was going to say something about /who Unit193, but that's old news. :P
[03:58] <BiosElement> Howdy howdy
[14:04] <jrgifford> Unit193: congrats!
[14:05] <paultag> what's gone on?
[14:05] <paultag> jrgifford: ^
[14:05] <jrgifford> paultag: Unit193 is a ubuntu member.
[14:05] <paultag> wooo
[14:05] <jrgifford> i'm a little surprised you missed that.
[14:05] <paultag> congrats, ubuntulog
[14:05] <paultag> erm, Unit193
[14:05] <paultag> No one asked me for a +1
[17:49] <Unit193> I said it a few times, just wasn't trying to hound anyone. Thanks1
[17:56] <paultag> Unit193: you should have poked me, I don't stay current but I would have advocated for you
[17:56] <paultag> even showed up at the meeting
[17:58] <Unit193> paultag: Thanks, sorry I didn't ping you too, I had druif and knome at the meeting though.
[17:59] <Unit193> You may have liked it, my intro was /exec -o cat intro  so I wouldn't go blank. :P
[18:04] <paultag> :)
[18:04] <paultag> we all do that ;)
[18:53] <Unit193> skellat: Hello!
[18:53] <Unit193> skellat: You left too quickly olast time for paultag to catch you. ;P
[18:53] <paultag> hi, skellat!
[18:53] <skellat> Howdy paultag Unit193
[18:54] <paultag> skellat: I love seeing the burning circle on planet.ubuntu
[18:54] <skellat> I had to get back to writing prior to going before the microphone last night
[18:54] <paultag> I also LOVE the fact there are TONS of Ubuntu members in Cleveland right now
[18:54] <paultag> well, NEO
[18:54] <paultag> dvz, skellat, Unit193, jrgifford
[18:54] <paultag> who else
[18:55] <skellat> paultag: That's been my big project within the LoCo for the Precise cycle
[18:55] <paultag> :D
[18:55] <skellat> When I checked last night there were only 763 Ubuntu Members.  I think the Ohio LoCo can help boost that number upwards.
[18:55] <paultag> truth!
[18:56] <paultag> I miss Ohio
[18:56] <paultag> would you believe there are fewer Ubuntu members in Boston then Cleveland?
[18:56] <skellat> Yes
[18:56] <paultag> well, at least, non-canonical
[18:56] <paultag> it's nuts
[18:56] <paultag> (since canonical has an office here I don't want to make crazy statements)
[18:57] <skellat> Start a challenge for non-canonical folks
[18:57]  * paultag shrugs
[18:57] <skellat> See if you can get Sunlight to back it
[18:57] <paultag> skellat: sunlight already backs it :)
[18:57] <skellat> If you have swag to give away or some such things
[18:57] <paultag> but they're in DC, we're only 4 of us up in Boston
[18:57] <paultag> Sunlight hosts all the DC stuff
[18:57] <paultag> there are so many debianites in Boston, there's a huge number
[18:57] <paultag> so I've just given up and started doing that ;)
[18:58] <skellat> It works.  I still run Squeeze on the SheevaPlug and so far the BeagleBoard is still running Precise Pangolin with only a few crashes here and there
[18:58] <paultag> I ♥ Debian
[18:58] <paultag> and the Debian developer community is *amazing*
[18:58] <paultag> which I was stunned to see, I never spent much time in the community
[18:58] <paultag> super happy I'm doing so now
[18:59] <paultag> some of the nicest folks ever
[18:59] <Unit193> Wouldn't be as much to idiots though, that's wh;y a user community is helpful.
[18:59] <paultag> sorry?
[18:59] <paultag> I said Debian Developers, like Ubuntu Members.
[19:00] <paultag> I'm not saying Debian users are nice, because they're not really
[19:00] <paultag> also, Ubuntu *is* debian, we're all on the same team
[19:00] <paultag> if there's a problem, fix it
[19:01] <Unit193> That'd be the biggest drawback, for me.  I have tested debian and it seems nice (not the stable branch)
[19:01] <skellat> With the new view of calling Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu flavors the questions is how to describe Ubuntu's relationship to Debian.  Fork?  Caffeinated/Decaf?
[19:01] <paultag> debian stable is much like the Ubuntu LTS
[19:01] <paultag> Ubuntu's not quite a fork. It's much more then that
[19:01] <paultag> but it's not part of Debian, it's this weird thing
[19:01] <Unit193> Derivative.
[19:02] <paultag> but many Debian'ers are Ubuntu'ers, and many Ubuntu'ers are Debian'ers
[19:02] <paultag> Unit193: it's not, though
[19:02] <paultag> because the work flows both ways
[19:02] <paultag> it's much more then that
[19:02] <Unit193> Well, that was my best guess.
[19:02] <paultag> aye
[19:02] <paultag> 6 years in and I still can't put words to it.
[19:02]  * paultag shrugs
[19:02] <skellat> Colombian blend, Brazilian blend
[19:03] <Unit193> Costa Rica blend?
[19:04] <skellat> Unit193: I thought that was Trisquel
[19:04] <skellat> So, Unit193, what's happening at your end of the shoreline?
[19:05] <paultag> thafreak: you dj'ing brah?
[19:05] <Unit193> skellat: Nothing much, I haven't really found too many Ubuntu users around here, other than already known.
[19:05] <paultag> Unit193: Have you talked with digitalvectorz?
[19:05] <paultag> He's another lapsed Ubuntu member in Cleveland
[19:05] <Unit193> paultag: Hah, no.
[19:05] <paultag> and I don't think he keeps active
[19:05] <paultag> but he's still a full project member
[19:05] <paultag> you should give him a shout
[19:05] <Unit193> That's a bit away, and people are scary...
[19:06] <paultag> https://launchpad.net/~digitalvectorz ←
[19:06] <paultag> oh man he's online now
[19:06] <paultag> Unit193: he's in #whube if you want to say hi
[19:07] <paultag> I think he's AFK atm though
[19:08] <paultag> or not :(
[19:08] <Unit193> He's been in here, or some other channel I'm in too, but he's a person and they're scary... Know if he's ever in middle ohio?
[19:08] <paultag> he's in NEO
[19:08] <paultag> we used to be down the road from me
[19:08] <paultag> and we'd jam
[19:09] <paultag> he and I ran the 9.10 and 10.04 jams
[19:11] <Unit193> That's a good 2.5 hours away, but I may be up for some LoCo thing and OLF.
[19:12] <skellat> I don't know if I'll be able to do OLF this year.  I won't be able to do a release party for Precise Pangolin due to adverse work scheduling.
[19:18] <Unit193> I really hope to this year.
[19:40] <thafreak> Anyone play with owncloud?
[19:58] <jrgifford> thafreak: i did, once.
[19:59] <jrgifford> paultag: you were down at JCU, right?
[19:59] <paultag> jrgifford: Blue Streaks!
[19:59] <paultag> proud JCU grad. The CS department there is great.
[20:01] <paultag> jrgifford: I plan on visiting JCU / NEO / CLE at least once a year or so