[06:03] <bkerensa> c_smith: I will be following up on most e-mails tomorrow
[06:03] <bkerensa> but yes I get all e-mail sent to me unless you get a bounce message
[15:34] <nathwill> yawn
[15:58] <MarkDude> Agreed
[15:58] <MarkDude> Yay Quantum Quetzalcoatl
[16:07] <nathwill> lol
[16:09] <nathwill> quiet quaalude?
[19:54] <c_smith> Bkerensa, do you have power yet?
[20:08] <nathwill_afk> c_smith, i'm running to lunch real quick, but if there's something I can help with, please let me know
[22:51] <bkerensa> c_smith: whats did you need?
[22:51] <bkerensa> c_smith: I read your e-mail I will respond when I get a chance but I have some pretty pressing matters with my house right now
[23:52] <nathwill> so... the new CoC reads more like a mission statement
[23:52] <nathwill> and less like a code of conduct
[23:54] <bkerensa> nathwill: I just provided feedback about the "Public and Private Correspondence" part
[23:55] <bkerensa> suggesting that perhaps asking volunteer contributors to follow the CoC even in their private lives might be a touch to far?
[23:57] <nathwill> bkerensa: i can *kind of* understand that. the issue is the association... obviously if you're talking with your drinking buddies who have no idea about Ubuntu, they don't care if you say something off-color, and it has no impact on Ubuntu
[23:57] <nathwill> if you're hanging out with people who know you're involved in Ubuntu, and you do something off-color, there's an association
[23:57] <bkerensa> nathwill: yeah but none of my buddies have no idea about Ubuntu
[23:57] <bkerensa> :D
[23:58] <nathwill> the biggest issue with it is enforceability.
[23:58] <bkerensa> I was more concerned about for instance #ORLUG and #Reddit-Portland
[23:58] <nathwill> laws without enforcement are meaningless symbols
[23:58] <nathwill> so wtf use is it
[23:58] <bkerensa> the norm there is often NSFW sharing and language
[23:58] <bkerensa> nathwill: well the CC can enforce by stripping you of membership I believe
[23:59] <bkerensa> I mean I know in -offtopic for instance it is not acceptable to discuss politics
[23:59] <bkerensa> since that would be inconsiderate and break the CoC
[23:59] <bkerensa> :)
[23:59] <bkerensa> so if you cant discuss Politics you surely cannot joke around