[00:05] <Joneeetux> i've googled till blue in the face.  Anyone know how to permenently edit the menu in grub4dos??
[00:06] <znull> hey, how can I save my installed packages in some txt file? I'm going to reinstall my server and I don't want to miss any packages..
[00:06] <sk1special> hey peoples
[00:06] <maractus> hey
[00:06] <ubuflx0> sup
[00:07] <pepee> Joneeetux, from linux?
[00:07] <iceroot> !clone | znull
[00:07] <lauratika> gparted shows swap partition is not setup... but system monitor tell me im using 1gb of 2gb swap memory... but my system clogs very easy what can be the problem?
[00:07] <pepee> Joneeetux, run: locate menu.lst
[00:07] <sk1special> trying to install 11.10 on a blank drive via usb.. and it just loads a sortve welcome message but no install. re did the usb..and it says theres several errors during install. tried re downloading. same deal
[00:07] <pepee> Joneeetux, http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/menu.htm
[00:08] <sk1special> *usb thumb drive
[00:08] <escott> lauratika, swapon -s
[00:08] <Joneeetux> well, i think i've installed it as a standalone; I have this big FAT 32 partition, and...
[00:09] <sk1special> creating thumb drive install on win 7 hp probook.  installing onto intel duo 80gb blank drive machine
[00:09] <lauratika> i got /dev/mapper/cryptswap1                  partition	2301948	1110412	-1
[00:09] <Joneeetux> i successfully copied your link, pepee
[00:09] <escott> lauratika, so cryptswap1 is active an in use
[00:10] <lauratika> this means everything it's ok?
[00:11] <Joneeetux> i,m tryin' to do this just from inside grub.exe
[00:11] <pepee> sk1special, try 12.04 ? it may work
[00:12] <pepee> Joneeetux, never used grub4dos, sorry
[00:13] <sk1special> yeah im working on downloading that and 10.04 now.. was just wondering if it was something i did with the download. did it two ways. one time using the universal usb thing suggested on main page. second time using one suggested on another site. first time just that message. second time said kernel error
[00:13] <escott> lauratika, gparted is probably confused by the usage of the dmcrypt instead of direct usage of the raw device
[00:13] <Joneeetux> i will check-out your link.  Thanks
[00:13] <warz> hi all. i just have a question about permissions. why is /usr/local owned by root? shouldn't i be able to create and move items into /usr/local as my personal user account? many applications seem to install items into /usr/local, but i always have permission issues doing so.
[00:13] <sparkybluefox> When will Ubuntu 12.04 be released?????
[00:13] <escott> sparkybluefox, thursday
[00:14] <sparkybluefox> cool
[00:14] <sparkybluefox> thank you!
[00:14] <pepee> warz, you use sudo to install apps
[00:14] <sparkybluefox> I'm wondering which way I will go.
[00:14] <lauratika> is there a need to fix this?... or the way it is is working?
[00:14] <builder> anyone compiled kernel with gcc 4.7.0 for amd bulldozer?
[00:14] <Joneeetux> znull, are you still here?
[00:15] <pepee> sk1special, 12.04 final will be released next week
[00:15] <Joneeetux> did you get an answer?
[00:15] <escott> lauratika, its working as expected
[00:16] <builder> warz: if normal users had write permission they could delete stuff as well. you may use a normal account for day to day operations but if you own the computer, ultimately you are root
[00:16] <builder> thats what sudoers is for
[00:16] <sk1special> is there alot of known issues then with the older versions? win 8 installs crashed my old pc a few times so got mad and decided to try linux .
[00:16] <lauratika> thanx a lot escott... all this come out after looking why is ocelotl taking too much memory
[00:16] <lauratika> any ideas where i should look at
[00:17] <escott> lauratika, what does free -h say?
[00:17] <derpderp> hello all good evening, I am trying to switch the run levels of the machine to get just a prompt but when I type: init 3     into the terminal nothing happens. how do i get a non-graphical login?
[00:18] <MrUnagi> is it possible to copy the bash history from on user to another?
[00:18] <MrUnagi> one user to another
[00:18] <builder> why?
[00:18] <iceroot> !runlevel
[00:18] <iceroot> !text | derpderp
[00:18] <InferiorHumanOrg> how come dash shows no programs under applications? it just has a spinning circle forever.
[00:18] <derpderp> thank you gentlemen
[00:19] <builder> MrUnagi: if you are trying to trick someone then you are sadly mistaken. you may be able to change the mtime and ctime but the 'atime' holds information about the last time the inode was changed. any real admin would know if you edited your .bash_history
[00:19] <MrUnagi> good thing I'm the only admin huh
[00:20] <builder> i just cant think of any other reaosn you would want to copy a .bash_history onto someone elses
[00:20] <builder> that defeats the purpose
[00:20] <iceroot> MrUnagi: just copy the file to the other home
[00:20] <MrUnagi> iceroot: thanks….i think rsync will handle it
[00:20] <the_real_crimper> um
[00:20] <builder> lol
[00:20] <iceroot> MrUnagi: for example, yes
[00:20] <iceroot> MrUnagi: and change the owner
[00:20] <lauratika> invalid option
[00:20] <MrUnagi> yea i guess i thought cp -r would handle hidden files
[00:21] <escott> lauratika, sorry try free -m
[00:21] <MrUnagi> grr that didn't work =/
[00:22] <MrUnagi> oh wait lol
[00:22] <iceroot> MrUnagi: bash_history will be reread when the shell is restarted
[00:22] <builder> cp .??*
[00:22] <sambagirl> i have a ubuntu vm that is in german, how do you change the locale stuff?
[00:22] <lauratika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/941845/
[00:23] <InferiorHumanOrg> how come dash shows no programs under applications? it just has a spinning circle forever.
[00:23] <MrUnagi> there we go
[00:23] <MrUnagi> it works now thanks iceroot
[00:23] <builder> mrunagi: you should use this 'shopt -s failglob'
[00:23] <sambagirl> you must be running vista inferiorhumanorg :D
[00:23] <sambagirl> this is ubuntu :)
[00:23] <InferiorHumanOrg> what are you talking about?
[00:23] <InferiorHumanOrg>  I am running ubuntu
[00:23] <sambagirl> it was a joke forget it
[00:24] <sambagirl> how do you change the language for the system?
[00:24] <InferiorHumanOrg> I have tried everything on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947862 but still no apps/files in unity
[00:25] <iceroot> sambagirl: in your german ubuntu there should be a menu-entry called "Sprachen"
[00:26] <MrUnagi> well builder next time someone asks the same question you can now think of a reason anyone would want to
[00:26] <MrUnagi> i am doing a lateral transfer from one user to another
[00:26] <MrUnagi> probably an easier way to change the user name….but oh well i do things the hard way
[00:26] <iceroot> sambagirl: "Regionale Formate" is the important part
[00:27] <escott> lauratika, you just dont have a lot of ram
[00:27] <iceroot> MrUnagi: usermod
[00:28] <MrUnagi> usermod -l?
[00:28] <InferiorHumanOrg> no one knows why I have 0 apps in unity >.<
[00:28] <lauratika> 1gb so you think is time to upgrade?
[00:29] <iceroot> InferiorHumanOrg: what ubuntu version?
[00:29] <builder> Mem:       total  15869     used  4763
[00:29] <builder> thats sad
[00:29] <InferiorHumanOrg>  Calling method "Search" on object path: "/com/canonical/unity/lens/applications" failed: Timeout was reached is what it says in terminal
[00:30] <escott> lauratika, given that 4gb costs $25 yes
[00:30] <MrUnagi> iceroot: -l doesn't change the home folder
[00:30] <InferiorHumanOrg> iceroot: 11.10
[00:32] <builder> anyone use BFS?
[00:32] <Rar9> need some help installing solr 3.6  with tomcat 7
[00:32] <lauratika> odd question how do i know what type of ram i have?
[00:33] <iceroot> Rar9: #tomcat
[00:33] <escott> lauratika, you can tell by the slot if you know what to look for, but if the machine is fairly old just buy a new one
[00:34] <Rar9> iceroot tomcat7 is running already
[00:34] <iceroot> InferiorHumanOrg: hm i cant find any usefull infos about that on launchpad, sorry. maybe you should fill a bug so the devs can have a look at your issue
[00:34] <iceroot> !bug | InferiorHumanOrg
[00:34] <lauratika> is there a command line to have the type of memory?
[00:34] <escott> lauratika, more ram would help in your case somewhat, but it may not make that big a difference if the machine is older
[00:34] <the_real_crimper> mount reports an error and fails to mount my raid-1,  but the drives mount correctly if i stop the raid and mount them individually, what's causing this?
[00:34] <Rar9> just solr not and I can´t find any good instructions
[00:35] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: dont!! mount the drive alone without the raid
[00:35] <lauratika> i wont change now my pc for many reasons... have to satick to this one for more time...
[00:35] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, too late, i'm not using live data anyways, i'm just testing this before i do anything on my actual data
[00:35] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: what error you get? what command you are using exactly?
[00:35] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: even mointing the drive is writing to the drive
[00:36] <iceroot> Rar9: a i thought solr is an app which is installed with tomcat
[00:36] <lauratika> so no command line to know type of ram memory
[00:36] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, it says NTFS signature is missing, although i know the drive format is ext4
[00:36] <iceroot> lauratika: hwinfo maybe have that infos
[00:37] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: can you paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:37] <lauratika> thanx
[00:37] <lauratika> have to install the program
[00:38] <Rar9> iceroot nno its not, but it only works with tomcat or jetty
[00:38] <iceroot> !info solr-tomcat
[00:39] <iceroot> Rar9: that?
[00:39] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, the relevant drive is /dev/sdd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/941860/
[00:40] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: i dont see the other drive for raid1
[00:40] <the_real_crimper> i know it pointless to use two partitions on the same drive for a raid, but this is for testing mdadm
[00:40] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: what? that is.. sorry.. really stupid
[00:40] <the_real_crimper> i create the raid using /dev/sdd1 /dev/sdd2
[00:40] <iceroot> totally useless
[00:41] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, so you believe the problem is the fact i'm using two partitions on the same drive?
[00:41] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: no but i dont see a reason to fix a "stupid" raid setup
[00:41] <iceroot> sorry for the word
[00:42] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, nevermind then
[00:42] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: so you are using mdadm and created a software-raid1 on sdd. and you have /dev/mapper/foobar?
[00:42] <the_real_crimper> what do you mean /dev/mapper/foobar?
[00:42] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: thats hwo raid is working
[00:43] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: you say mdadm that /dev/sdfoo1 and /dev/sdbar1 are raid1, and mdadm is creating /dev/mapper/foobar which is your raid1 partition
[00:44] <iceroot> and then you mount /dev/mapper/foobar and NEVER /dev/sdfoo1
[00:44] <iceroot> !raid | the_real_crimper
[00:44] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, ahh, i will see if this works
[00:44] <MrUnagi> is there a way to save history commands into a shortcut
[00:44] <MrUnagi> almost like !1996 for history command 1996
[00:44] <MrUnagi> but…..in a custom list
[00:44] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: that is the way how raid is working, there is no other way with software-raid
[00:44] <Giddeon> can anyone recommend a good tool that parses error.log files?
[00:45] <iceroot> MrUnagi: #bash
[00:45] <iceroot> Giddeon: logchec
[00:45] <Giddeon> thx iceroot
[00:45] <iceroot> Giddeon: but its more "check them and inform the admin via mail about bad things"
[00:46] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: or did you create a raid with your controller/bios?
[00:46] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: normally called FakeRaid
[00:46] <the_real_crimper> no, i used mdadm
[00:47] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: ok
[00:47] <the_real_crimper> am i supposed to see a change in the ls of /dev/mapper before and after creating a RAID?
[00:47] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: yes
[00:47] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:47] <stan_man_can> I'm trying to install Varnish and it's giving me the error "varnish : Depends: gcc (>= 3.3) but it is not installable"
[00:47] <jblp>  qazwsx
[00:47] <jblp>  /msg NickServ identify qazwsx
[00:48] <iceroot> jblp: change it fast
[00:48] <MarcN> jblp, time to change your nickserv password...
[00:48] <iceroot> jblp: and all other accounts using the same password
[00:48] <Lint> and the method of choosing passwords
[00:49] <christhisisgool> it seems that most people are stupid in choosing passwords nowadays, half of the wireless networks in my area have the same password as they are named
[00:49] <iceroot> Lint: its perfectly secure on qwertz :)
[00:49] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, so mounting is performed automatically after creating a raid with mdadm? the link doesn't mention it
[00:50] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: no, you have to use fstab
[00:50] <iceroot> !fstab | the_real_crimper
[00:51] <Rar9> can some help with updateting ubuntu 10.04 to php 5.3.10 ?
[00:51] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: but after you have your raid-array /dev/mapper/foobar is handled the same as for example /dev/sdb
[00:52] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: but /dev/mapper/foobar is holding a partiton while /dev/sdb is a device and /dev/sdb1 is the partition
[00:52] <iceroot> !info php5 lucid
[00:52] <iceroot> Rar9: 5.3.2 is not enough?
[00:53] <Rar9> NO :-)
[00:53] <iceroot> Rar9: you will have to find a ppa with that version or build it from source
[00:53] <khmerog> anyone test drive ubuntu 12 ?
[00:53] <Rar9> can you help?
[00:53] <iceroot> khmerog: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[00:54] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, i'm not seeing the /dev/mapper/foobar concept; i've created an *actual* raid (not the stupid setup) using sde1 and sdf1 showing up as /dev/md1, this doesn't mount unless i explicitly run mount
[00:54] <Rar9> or should I better wait till 12.04 is relased?
[00:54] <khmerog> is it visual different? like User Interface
[00:54] <jblp> iceroot,  lol its only used here
[00:54] <khmerog> 12.04 is coming out in 3 day i think
[00:54] <jblp> Oops
[00:54] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: ah sorry its /dev/md1 instead of /dev/mapper/foobar
[00:54] <jblp> MarcN,  Thanks will do
[00:54] <Rar9> 3 day can be long
[00:55] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: i thought mdadm was creating /dev/mapper/
[00:55] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: you have to put md1 in fstab to automaticly mount
[00:55] <louiemat> has any used wummu-software to connect your cell phone
[00:56] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, okay, it must be because i'm doing a stupid test using partitions on the same drive. the partition table on the drive itself is probably confusing mount
[00:56] <iceroot>  /dev/mapper/ was LVM and imo encrypted partitions
[00:57] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: maybe, never tested that setup
[00:57] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: but now you can mount md1?
[00:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> how do I specify what display manager is used with a given screen ?
[00:58] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, well i always knew md1 worked, but the problem i'm facing is that i need drives to sync under the condition that the superblock is lost
[00:58] <wodemaye_> Hi, I have a question about the GNOME HIG.  in a modal dialog, if there are two buttons and a letter is underlined in each, what does it denote? i wish i could press that key to press the button, but it doesn't work that way.  am i doing something wrong?
[00:58] <sk1special> okay. just tried installing 10.04. loads from thumbdrive created using the universal usb installer suggested on main page. but either option of running from usb or installing to hard drive just leaves me with a blank screen
[00:58] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: lost superblock(s) is bad
[00:58] <anonymous> hello
[00:59] <stan_man_can> does build-essential not exist on 11.10?
[00:59] <iceroot> wodemaye_: try alt + the underlined key
[00:59] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, yes, but the data is recoverable, right? if i know which drive has the latest and greatest
[00:59] <wodemaye_> iceroot, oh, sweet.
[00:59] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: you have another drive/partition with the exact same size?
[01:00] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, yes
[01:00] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: there is a way to calculate the position of one of the superblocks and restore them
[01:00] <Lucifer> hii
[01:00] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, dumpe2fs?
[01:01] <great> fffffff
[01:01] <stan_man_can> I'm trying to get GCC installed but build-essentials doesn't exist
[01:01] <great> oops sorr
[01:01] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: i did it some years ago, there was a website (google..) where you can put your partition parameters and the filesystem-type and it was calculating the positions from a superblock which can then be transfered with dd
[01:02] <the_real_crimper> iceroot, okay i'll look into that
[01:02] <dniMretsaM> stan_man_can: I think the package name is build-essential. not build-essentials
[01:02] <stan_man_can> dniMresaM: I've tried both
[01:02] <iceroot> Rar9: and i bet there a programs too which can show the position of a superblock
[01:02] <iceroot> Rar9: wrong nick, sorry
[01:02] <dniMretsaM> you said you're on 11.10?
[01:02] <iceroot> the_real_crimper: and i bet there a programs too which can show the position of a superblock
[01:03] <stan_man_can> https://gist.github.com/2467932
[01:03] <stan_man_can> dniMretsaM: yeah
[01:05] <dniMretsaM> stan_man_can: what results when you run: apt-cache search build-essential
[01:06] <stan_man_can> dniMretsaM: https://gist.github.com/2467950
[01:07] <stan_man_can> dniMretsaM: Not sure if it makes a difference but I had to upgrade from 10.04 up to 11.10
[01:07] <stan_man_can> I'd assume not but you never know
[01:07] <iceroot> stan_man_can: output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:07] <iceroot> !info build-essential
[01:08] <iceroot> stan_man_can: it must be in your repos because its part of the main repo, maybe run "sudo apt-get update" first
[01:08] <milamber> stan_man_can: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:08] <stan_man_can> iceroot: https://gist.github.com/2467966
[01:08] <stan_man_can> i've run sudo apt-get update already
[01:08] <dniMretsaM> stan_man_can: no, that sholudn't make a difference. unless your sources.list got messed up. it should be in the main repo.
[01:09] <iceroot> stan_man_can: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main
[01:09] <iceroot> stan_man_can: but that in the file
[01:09] <stan_man_can> everything in main should be in unierse shouldn't it?
[01:09] <stan_man_can> universe*
[01:09] <iceroot> stan_man_can: main and universe are totally different parts of the repo
[01:09] <iceroot> stan_man_can: you are missing the real main repo
[01:09] <stan_man_can> well then
[01:10] <iceroot> stan_man_can: and remove deb http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ lucid nginx
[01:10] <iceroot> stan_man_can: how you did the upgrade? there went some things very wrong
[01:10] <stan_man_can> iceroot: someone told me to change main to universe earlier
[01:10] <stan_man_can> the licid nginx was added manually to install nginx gia apt
[01:10] <iceroot> stan_man_can: beat the person how told you that
[01:10] <stan_man_can> they were in here :/
[01:11] <iceroot> stan_man_can: ok lets beat him together :)
[01:11] <iceroot> stan_man_can: you need the main-repo and also the universe repo is very nice to have
[01:11] <stan_man_can> is it okay to leave the lucid one in?
[01:11] <iceroot> stan_man_can: i dont think its a good idea
[01:12] <iceroot> !info nginx
[01:12] <dniMretsaM> stan_man_can:  you can. it won't do any good, though
[01:12] <iceroot> stan_man_can: nginx is in the 11.10 universe repo
[01:12] <stan_man_can> well then
[01:12] <stan_man_can> how can i tell where it got installed from??
[01:12] <stan_man_can> or does it make a difference?
[01:13] <iceroot> stan_man_can: apt-cache policy packagename  will show you from what source it is installed
[01:13] <iceroot> stan_man_can: the main problem is mixing packages for different releases which will end in dependency fights
[01:13] <stan_man_can> https://gist.github.com/2467983
[01:16] <Guest7573> hello
[01:16] <iceroot> stan_man_can: http://paste.ubuntu.com/941889/
[01:16] <iceroot> stan_man_can: use that
[01:17] <iceroot> stan_man_can: then use "sudo apt-get update"
[01:19] <stan_man_can> iceroot will it mess anything up with my current nginx install??
[01:19] <InferiorHumanOrg> how would one go about running two different window managers on two different screens ?
[01:20] <stan_man_can> iceroot: and do i not need main/univere for oneiric and oneiric-updates ?
[01:21] <iceroot> stan_man_can: the oneiric repo is also holding 1.0.15-1
[01:21] <iceroot> stan_man_can: ah yes i forgot two line with universe
[01:22] <iceroot> InferiorHumanOrg: running two x-servers
[01:22] <iceroot> stan_man_can: please add two lines with universe
[01:22] <stan_man_can> iceroot: like this ?? https://gist.github.com/2468045
[01:23] <iceroot> stan_man_can: yes
[01:28] <MrUnagi> how can i increase the resolution ubuntu puts out for vnc
[01:29] <blackbear008> hello
[01:29] <iceroot> MrUnagi: it will use the resolution of the real desktop, you cant use different resolutions for vnc and the real desktop
[01:29] <rdegges> Hey all, anyone know when 12.04 LTS is supposed to be released (as stablee)?
[01:30] <christhisisgool> the 26th
[01:30] <MrUnagi> iceroot: how can i force ubuntu to allow higher resolutions
[01:30] <christhisisgool> rdegges
[01:30] <blackbear008> hello,every body,I am a new user from china.
[01:30] <rdegges> christhisisgool: oh, thanks very much!
[01:30] <iceroot> MrUnagi: ubuntu will use the resolution of your monitor
[01:30] <rdegges> I'll hold off on formatting till then :)
[01:30] <MrUnagi> iceroot: it doesn't have a monitor
[01:30] <iceroot> MrUnagi: then why using vnc and not freenx?
[01:30] <iceroot> or why even using a gui?
[01:31] <MrUnagi> because i don't know what freenx is, and i prefer to have the option to use a gui
[01:31] <MrUnagi> especially when installing a virtual machine
[01:31] <iceroot> !freenx | MrUnagi
[01:31] <blackbear008> 中文 ？
[01:31] <iceroot> MrUnagi: its something like vnc but much better
[01:31] <iceroot> MrUnagi: its something like a terminal-server like rdesktop on windows
[01:32] <MrUnagi> like it draws on the client side?
[01:32] <iceroot> MrUnagi: yes
[01:32] <MrUnagi> iceroot: even if i am on a mac?
[01:32] <C112911> testing.......
[01:32]  * MrUnagi smacks self
[01:32] <MrUnagi> build from source
[01:32] <yellownblue> lol
[01:32] <MrUnagi> heh
[01:33] <iceroot> MrUnagi: osx is the server then?
[01:33] <MrUnagi> no
[01:33] <MrUnagi> os x is client, ubuntu is my server
[01:33] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/180860567966?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[01:33] <iceroot> MrUnagi: there should be freenx clients for osx too (i know free and apple-stuff does not fit together...)
[01:35] <lazik> I do sudo fdisk -l and get a list of the partitions, how would I go about dumping the first partition to a file so I can look at it with a hex editor or something?
[01:36] <iceroot> lazik: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/file/mydump.img
[01:37] <iceroot> replace sda1 with your partition you want
[01:37] <khmerog> isnt ubuntu a low resource OS? any reason why i would need more than 4GB of ram while using Ubuntu?
[01:37] <iceroot> khmerog: 512mb ram here
[01:37] <pangolin> Ubuntu is not a low resource OS but you don't need more than 4GB
[01:38] <khmerog> lol iceroot???
[01:38] <iceroot> khmerog: and as i told you, read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  to understand the output of free -m
[01:38] <khmerog> how is it with 512mb?
[01:38] <iceroot> khmerog: fine
[01:38] <blackbear008> most 1G
[01:38] <khmerog> yes i read it iceroot
[01:38] <iceroot> khmerog: but i am not on ubuntu, i am on lubuntu
[01:38] <aeon-ltd> i was using ubuntu once with 512mb, gnome was bearable, openbox was sorta awesome.
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> but this was pre-unity and compiz was young.
[01:39] <khmerog> i am currently Wubuntu...
[01:39] <khmerog> ahhh lubuntu = the LIGHT ubuntu
[01:39] <pangolin> actually no
[01:39] <iceroot> khmerog: yes, lxde + openbox
[01:39] <pangolin> the L is for LXDE
[01:39] <christhisisgool> lightweight x11 desktop enviroment
[01:39] <khmerog> maybe i should have installed lubuntu for my netbook instead of ubunutu
[01:40] <iceroot> and the L in LXDE is for light :)
[01:40] <pangolin> which turns out to be lightweight
[01:40] <lazik> iceroot, thanks
[01:40] <iceroot> hm in 12.10 its called LWDE then? :)
[01:41] <Dawn262> so hey.  I have a 133mg cpu with 64 megs of ram sitting around.  can i put lubuntu on that?
[01:42] <Dawn262> or do I need the 512k?
[01:42] <ajin> POWERVR SGX545 3D accelerate DRIVER FOR LINUX exit yet?
[01:42] <aeon-ltd> Dawn262: i wouldn't if 133mg was meant to be 133mhz
[01:42] <dniMretsaM> I don't think that's enough for lubuntu
[01:42] <Dawn262> mhz yeah
[01:42] <iceroot> Dawn262: 128mb is imo needed
[01:42] <christhisisgool> dawn262: while i have not tried it on something with that low of cpu, i have had it run a 500mhz cpu with the same amount of ram
[01:42] <jiohdi> probably can use icewm
[01:43] <iceroot> Dawn262: and there is a bug in the graphical installer which wants more ram, so you have to use alternate-cd
[01:43] <Dawn262> gaaa  ok
[01:43] <netzsooc> hi, I just installed lucid, but I have no sound, nevertheless lspci list the two sound cards, any idea on how to fix the prob? (lspci out is on http://pastebin.com/qcvNCmG4
[01:43] <dniMretsaM> TinyCore would run on that
[01:43] <christhisisgool> yes, but does tiny core have any type of decent device support? (usb, and such?)
[01:43] <jiohdi> puppy does
[01:43] <iceroot> christhisisgool: the support is coming from the kernel, not the GUI
[01:43] <aeon-ltd> Dawn262: if the processor is i586 use crux if i686 use arch, you WILL need to tailor your OS to get any performance out of it. if i386 use ubuntu server/debian and do it from the base up
[01:43] <ajin> hello?
[01:44] <dniMretsaM> christhisisgool: I think so.
[01:44] <aeon-ltd> ajin: hi
[01:44] <Dawn262> ok  thanks all
[01:44] <Hebram> I doubt a 133mhz cpu motherboard has usb.
[01:44] <jiohdi> Dawn262, try bodhilinux its a lucid varient very light weight
[01:44] <iceroot> Dawn262: ah it will only run if your cpu is i586 or higher
[01:44] <iceroot> Dawn262: because the kernel is only supporting i586 and higher
[01:45] <ajin> well,is there a power vr 545 3D driver for linux yet?
[01:45] <jiohdi> puppy is one of the best for old low power machines
[01:45] <christhisisgool> i agree with jiohdi
[01:46] <dniMretsaM> does puppy even run on 64mb of RAM?
[01:46] <christhisisgool> YES!
[01:46] <jiohdi> lucid pup for ubuntu integration to a degree
[01:46] <Dawn262> puppy it is then!
[01:46] <ajin> can anyone help me?
[01:46] <jiohdi> puppy will run on very little ram
[01:46] <ajin> i googled, but no answer appeared
[01:46] <khmerog> when i installed ubuntu on my netbook..i partitioned my hard drive according to a tutorial i found online..do i need to do this for any other Linux OS?
[01:46] <aeon-ltd> ajin: describe your problem to the channel, we'll do our best
[01:46] <khmerog> i partitioned it into 4 parts
[01:46] <christhisisgool> oh, and sorry for my misinformed comments on tiny core. it was some other distro i was thinking of
[01:47] <aeon-ltd> khmerog: why?
[01:47] <christhisisgool> aeon-ltd: so we know what the problem is
[01:47] <iceroot> khmerog: any linux os is happy to found / the rest is not needed as extra partition
[01:47] <Dawn262> ummmm puppy is not on the release site
[01:47] <khmerog> i see
[01:48] <Jayface> i installed ubuntu for the first time using wubi
[01:48] <khmerog> same JayFace
[01:48] <christhisisgool> dawn262: yes it is, its right here http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[01:49] <Jayface> and windows is located inside /host/ whats with this?
[01:49] <khmerog> but was advised against doing that so i did a clean install
[01:49] <Jayface> is ubuntu on a seperate partition or installed on ntfs partition
[01:49] <dniMretsaM> according the tho Puppy FAQ, 4.2.1 requires 128mb of RAM and a 500MHZ processor
[01:49]  * Dawn262 huggles christhisisgool 
[01:49] <khmerog> Jayface even if you installed ubuntu on a Separate partition u still have access to the windows host folder
[01:50] <Dawn262> should work!!
[01:50] <dniMretsaM> can't find info on 5.x
[01:50] <khmerog> kind of weird to me too
[01:50] <christhisisgool> dnimretsam: just ignore that. it should work
[01:50] <lazik> How would I find out where the mbr is stored?
[01:50] <Dawn262> this is gonna be soooo cool if I can get it to work
[01:50] <khmerog> but i kind of like that becuase i can have access to my files on windows
[01:50] <Jayface> why were you advised against this?
[01:50] <rendero> which is the best program to test my disk after i accidentally move the pc while the hard disk was running, and makes a bad noise ( now i do not hear anything bad )
[01:50] <iceroot> lazik: 512bytes of the device
[01:50] <iceroot> lazik: together with the partiton layout
[01:50] <Jayface> well you would anyway if you mounted the ntfs partition?
[01:50] <christhisisgool> rendero: any ubuntu distro with a disk utility
[01:51] <iceroot> rendero: smartmontools is a good way to start
[01:51] <khmerog> because the guy told me that Wubuntu is not stable and never worked correctly to begin with..something like that
[01:51] <jiohdi> jayface, wubi makes a gigantic file inside windows and then boots it... problem I have had is upon update the file changes bootloader cant find it, crashes system
[01:51] <dniMretsaM> christhisisgool: lol ox
[01:51] <dniMretsaM> ok*
[01:51] <Jayface> oic
[01:51] <khmerog> oic jiohdi
[01:52] <Jayface> ok well i guess ill man up and partition it right
[01:52] <jiohdi> Il lost both windows and linux that way twice
[01:52] <Jayface> can I just delete said file in windows?
[01:52] <jiohdi> yes
[01:52] <datruth> Does the app screenlets install the gnome desktop?
[01:52] <khmerog> jiodhi is that why the tutorial tells u to partition your drive into 4 parts../boot + / + /home + swap  ?
[01:52] <Jayface> ok cool see you guys in a bit thanks
[01:53] <jiohdi> khmerog, not sure about that part, since it never worked right I never used it again
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[01:54] <d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-> Current System Configuration
[01:54] <d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-> Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1 up for 1 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 23 minutes 25 seconds
[01:54] <d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-> CPU/RAM: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz with Currently 4006 of 8169MB in use which is 49.04%
[01:54] <d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-> Storage System: 111.8GB Internet Connection: n/a
[01:54] <d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-> Display System: 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti using a Generic PnP monitor at 1920x1080 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[01:54] <FloodBot1> d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <jiohdi> khmerog, most good linux distros let you set up dual boot without issues as long as the windows is in there first
[01:54] <lazik> iceroot, thanks again
[01:56] <rendero> iceroot, palimpsest says the disk is healthy, is that enough ? can i proobe another ? the program you said uses s.m.a.r.t too
[01:58] <rendero> iceroot, extended offline gsmartcontrol says no error, may be that noise was nothing and the disk was not damaged
[01:58] <WHAT_UP> this torrent file linked from the homepage is missing: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[01:58] <iceroot> rendero: so its seems to be fine but having a backup is ALWAYS a good idea
[01:59] <iceroot> WHAT_UP: lucid is no longer supported
[01:59] <iceroot> ah sorry, its lts
[01:59] <delinquentme> how do i grep a literal dot
[01:59] <delinquentme> ?
[01:59] <delinquentme> im looking for the string "a..z"
[01:59] <delinquentme> \. didnt work
[01:59] <rendero> iceroot, how do i back up 500 gigas ? lol
[02:00] <iceroot> rendero: with an external 2tb drive
[02:00] <builder> delin: "\." is def how you do it
[02:01] <rendero> iceroot, do you recommend the program dd to back up ? can i boot the system from an external hard drive as i do with an internal one ?
[02:02] <[snake]> is there a way I can update gnome-terminal to something greater than 2.30.2 on Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[02:02] <warfaren> delinquentme: i would type grep 'a\.\.z' but i suppose " would work too
[02:02] <iceroot> rendero: i would not recommend dd as a backup tool and i would not recommend to mirror the complete system, instead i would backup my personal data every day/week or whatever and only store the diff to the last backup
[02:02] <iceroot> WHAT_UP: what url linked to that missing file?
[02:03] <WHAT_UP> iceroot: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[02:03] <WHAT_UP> iceroot: search for ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[02:03] <iceroot> WHAT_UP: thank you i will report it
[02:04] <WHAT_UP> i don't particularly need the file, i was just using it to test some torrent program i'm writing and i was confused as to why the .torrent file came up as invalid :)
[02:04] <rendero> iceroot, i think you mean to backup home. Do i have to just copy and paste my home folder on the external hard drive ?
[02:05] <wylde> !backup
[02:05] <iceroot> rendero: yes its something like "just copy" have a look at "deja-dup"
[02:05] <[snake]> !gnome-terminal
[02:05] <rendero> iceroot, i will check deja-dup
[02:05] <rendero> thank you
[02:05] <rendero> thank you wylde too
[02:06] <balazs> hi. I'm installing 12.04 in a virtual box and downloading the language packs is funky
[02:06] <iceroot> balazs: #ubuntu+1
[02:06] <[snake]> they have 12.04 already... jeez I'm still using 10... :/ no wonder why I have no help :P
[02:06] <balazs> thanks
[02:06] <rendero> !sbackup
[02:06] <rendero> !cloning
[02:07] <mute_> Evening everyone. Had a quick question about how to just execute a program in the terminal but then be able to close the console and have the program still run if that makes any sense
[02:07] <[snake]> When I update above 10.10 my installation usually goes bizzurk... is 12.04 not as buggy as the 11s
[02:07] <iceroot> mute_: screen
[02:08] <[snake]> mute_ (command &)
[02:08] <iceroot> [snake]: no
[02:08] <[snake]> oh..
[02:08] <iceroot> [snake]: that kills the program when you close the terminal
[02:08] <[snake]> works for me.
[02:08] <[snake]> no it doesn't
[02:08] <iceroot> [snake]: it will not work for you
[02:08] <mute_> so like, screen amarok or something?
[02:08] <[snake]> maybe I'm wrong... let me check..
[02:09] <builder> mute_ if its already running you can press ctrl+z
[02:09] <builder> and then type 'bg <job number>'
[02:09] <builder> which will prolly be 1
[02:09] <[snake]> iceroot, it's still running.
[02:09] <[snake]> iceroot, no terminal in site.
[02:09] <[snake]> sight*
[02:09] <iceroot> [snake]: as i said, screen is the correct way
[02:10] <builder> yeh but if its already running just ctrl+z it and then bg it
[02:10] <[snake]> iceroot, of course it is, because it's your way lol
[02:10] <iceroot> [snake]: its my way because its the correct way
[02:10] <Gnea> builder: did you mean fg?
[02:10] <iceroot> [snake]: not, its the correct way because its my way
[02:10] <mute_> snakes way works, but iceroot, what's screen?
[02:10] <[snake]> iceroot, it's no big deal... I was jking.... :((
[02:11] <builder> gnea: no dudes you friggin ctrl+z, type bg <job num> and then disown it
[02:11] <[snake]> thanks mute_
[02:11] <builder> man disown
[02:11] <iceroot> mute_: screen is a window manager for the shell
[02:11] <builder> well its bash invocation so no man
[02:11] <Gnea> No manual entry for disown
[02:11] <iceroot> mute_: it will open a new session and you can work in the session, close the terminal, lose the ssh connection and everything is still running inside that screen session
[02:12] <builder> but trust me ive had to do it a million time accidentally not using screen before starting a mysqlcheck -or
[02:12] <builder> and then my shift ends and im like
[02:12] <builder> FUUUUU
[02:12] <Gnea> !language | builder
[02:12] <khmerog> why are the apps on ubuntu software center outdated? example playonlinux is version 3.XX when on the website version 4.XX is already out
[02:12] <[snake]> I don't think it matter HOW you do it... so long as it gets done... screen works pretty well too..
[02:12] <builder> really gnea?
[02:12] <[snake]> actually I like screen.
[02:12] <Gnea> that's a pretty good way to reclaim the process, though
[02:12] <iceroot> khmerog: you will only get security updates for a specific ubuntu-release
[02:12] <[snake]> it's easier
[02:12] <builder> screen is obviously the way to go
[02:12] <Gnea> builder: really, we know what the words stand for.
[02:12] <iceroot> khmerog: almost never major updates
[02:13] <builder> im just saying if you forgot to run it first
[02:13] <[snake]> ah
[02:13] <builder> gnea: yeh, but why be so lame
[02:13] <builder> i say "fudge" all the time
[02:13] <Gnea> builder: your definition of lame does not apply here. please, continue with solving the problem...
[02:13] <khmerog> ok iceroot
[02:13] <iceroot> [snake]: lxpanel& and then close the terminal will kill the lxpanel :)
[02:13] <builder> i already know howto solve the problem
[02:14] <[snake]> u forgot the parenthesis
[02:14] <builder> if they would listen to me
[02:14] <iceroot> [snake]: some programs are using disown inside them so they are working with your method
[02:14] <khmerog> iceroot u r using ubuntu 11.10?
[02:14] <[snake]> (command &)
[02:14] <iceroot> khmerog: lubuntu 12.04
[02:14] <khmerog> ohh snap
[02:14] <khmerog> beta right?>
[02:14] <mute_> I can't really figure out how to use screen so I'm going with snakes method. :P thanks guys for the help.
[02:15] <[snake]> is 12.04 any better than the 11s? because I could never get those to work.
[02:15] <iceroot> [snake]: hm any difference in lxpanel& and (lxpanel &)
[02:15] <mute_> Since I'm here actually does anyone use cmus?
[02:15] <builder> and if you want to redirect output after something is running
[02:15] <builder> i can do that too ;)
[02:15] <iceroot> mute_: type "screen" press enter and do your normal work
[02:15] <[snake]> iceroot, idk... but it's cool man. just chill.
[02:15] <rendero> can someone tell me the name of the package i can see here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup  ( there are some screenshots in "Implementation")
[02:16] <builder> gdb -p <PID>
[02:16] <builder> p dup2(open("/dev/null", 0), 1)
[02:16] <builder> p dup2(open("/dev/null", 0), 2)
[02:16] <builder> that will redirect standard output and stderr to /dev/null
[02:16] <builder> AFTER proc is running
[02:17] <[snake]> can you get ubuntu with gnome 3 or did they remove all of gnome from their newer releases?
[02:17] <builder> snake: apt-get install gnome-shell
[02:17] <builder> +cinnamon ftw
[02:18] <iceroot> rendero: hubackup
[02:18] <builder> http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-cinnamon-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[02:18] <aaas> whats the name of the ubuntu 11.04 terminal executable?>
[02:18] <iceroot> rendero: as it seems, never released
[02:18] <aaas> gnome
[02:18] <iceroot> aaas: gnome-terminal
[02:18] <aaas> thanks
[02:19] <builder> aaas: let me do you a huge favor, and you will thank me for it later
[02:19] <iceroot> rendero: and the changelog says "replaced by deja-dup"
[02:19] <builder> aaas: apt-get install terminator
[02:19] <builder> right click to split it, and then use ctrl+shift+x to zoom in and out
[02:20] <[snake]> it seems that updates always made my system less compatible with ubuntu... is it maybe better in 12.04 instead of worse because I don't want to download it just to find out it doesn't work with mine.
[02:20] <rendero> iceroot, i wrote hubackup in the konsole terminal and says no such order
[02:20] <builder> i dont think it t has transparency you might have to use gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
[02:20] <builder> oops nm
[02:21] <Guest51037> ?
[02:21] <Guest51037> hi,every body.
[02:21] <builder> hi.. guest
[02:22] <blithen> If I were to set the output sound of a program via the terminal what would pulseaudio be called?
[02:23] <blithen> like... output=pulseaudio or?
[02:23] <dlentz> blithen, depends on the program
[02:23] <blithen> Well Cmus then. o:
[02:25] <dlentz> cmus calls it pulse
[02:25] <blithen> Thank you!
[02:25] <blithen> Uh oh. D: Error: selecting output plugin 'pulse': no such plugin
[02:26] <dlentz> does cmus --plugins show pulse ?
[02:27] <blithen> Hmm  it would see that output plugins are stored in a directory that doesn't exist: cmus: Error: couldn't open directory `/usr/local/lib/cmus/op': No such file or directory
[02:27] <dlentz> did you build it from source?
[02:29] <blithen> Yes.
[02:29] <builder> blithen: lspci -v
[02:29] <builder> to see your audio dev
[02:30] <blackbear008> builder,where are you?
[02:30] <builder> ?
[02:30] <blackbear008> I am in china!
[02:31] <Ilusion> I m Brasil
[02:31] <Ilusion> algum brasileiro nessa sala :)
[02:31] <builder> usa
[02:31] <blackbear008> Ok,got it
[02:31] <blackbear008> Does Ubuntu suitable from the NetBook,
[02:32] <blackbear008> such as ASUS eeePC
[02:32] <hydd> how do install Ubuntu on Atari 2600?
[02:32] <blackbear008> some usually use Puppy linux or Fedora 16.
[02:32] <z3k3> hi
[02:33] <Ilusion> hi
[02:33] <blackbear008> hydd, use DVD or USB disk,to install
[02:33] <hydd> fuck that. you actually install Ubuntu on a 2600.
[02:33] <z3k3> i want to ask about emapthy
[02:33] <Guest24046> hello
[02:33] <z3k3> empathy
[02:33] <hydd> godless people
[02:34] <pangolin> !language | hydd
[02:34] <blackbear008> on you, ubottu
[02:34] <hydd> and why exactly would I care it for being family friendly?
[02:34] <hydd> the people are installing the fucking thing on the 2600's!
[02:34] <z3k3> hellppp meee
[02:34] <hydd> do something about it. or else.
[02:35] <builder> CPU:   6507, 8bit, 1.19MHz (cutdown 6502 with only 8K address space) RAM:   128 Bytes (additional 128 or 256 bytes in some cartridges)
[02:35] <z3k3> hellp me
[02:35] <blackbear008> z3k3,speak
[02:35] <blackbear008> do not just cry for help
[02:35] <blackbear008> do something
[02:35] <z3k3> yess i speeeeekk
[02:36] <builder> lol like a puppy with a broken leg
[02:36] <z3k3> about empathy
[02:36] <blackbear008> about empathy and what?
[02:36] <z3k3> how i can clear history conversation
[02:36] <flying_penguin> hi all
[02:36] <Puck1980> sign out and sign back in
[02:36] <Puck1980> that will stop you seeing all the convo in here
[02:36] <blackbear008> no , z3k3 is logging the conversation
[02:37] <chousho> Hello~ Did the server guide documents get moved? I'm not having any luck with these links from  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[02:37] <z3k3> before i log the conversations
[02:37] <blackbear008> user a command : /    help
[02:37] <Puck1980> oh ok
[02:37] <Puck1980> sorry
[02:37] <Puck1980> must have issed that befpor ei logged in
[02:37] <z3k3> and i want to clear the history conversations empathy
[02:37] <flying_penguin> i've upgraded to 12.04 and can't find where to change the number of workplaces
[02:37] <blackbear008> you will see a lot of command to use;
[02:38] <blackbear008> z3k3,use : clear
[02:38] <blackbear008> have you seen it ? z3k3?
[02:38] <Puck1980> have you unchecked the the option in the preferences of this app too?
[02:38] <z3k3> how i do that mr blackbear
[02:39] <flying_penguin> does anyone know?
[02:39] <wylde> !10.10 | chousho
[02:39] <pangolin> flying_penguin: 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:39] <flying_penguin> ok
[02:42] <netzsooc> I use lucid lynx. I have to soundcards but just hdmi is working, the internal audio is not... could you tell me how to fix that?
[02:42] <builder> what is empathy
[02:42] <mdel> hey all - i installed ubuntu on my mac without rEFIt, and then chose to install grub on the partition i designated as /
[02:42] <mdel> bootcamp menu doesnt show my ubuntu install...how can i add it?
[02:43] <blackbear008> empathy, is a kind of IRC software in linux platform.
[02:43] <blackbear008> sorry , I come from China,and my English is poor.
[02:44] <blackbear008> z3k3, I advise you to google : how to use IRC
[02:44] <blackbear008> you will get a lot help.
[02:44] <builder> anyone know any other linux channels i might fit in at?
[02:44] <builder> like not so big
[02:44] <Wildbat> is there a tools for cleaning up orphan/old files in a webdir?
[02:44] <blackbear008> #fedoea
[02:44] <netzsooc> builder empathy is multi protocol IM
[02:45] <blackbear008> or use can create a new one.
[02:45] <blackbear008> Question: Is IRC chating secure?
[02:45] <builder> wildbat: what do you mean by orphaned?
[02:45] <Logan_> !pm | [Bazinga]
[02:46] <Logan_> !pm >[Bazinga]
[02:46] <Wildbat> builder, unlinked, junk, unless
[02:46] <netzsooc> blackbear what you mean secure?
[02:47] <blackbear008> other can see our talk in the Net.
[02:47] <builder> apt-get install deborphan i think
[02:47] <wylde> blackbear008: yes they can. This channel is also logged as per the /topic
[02:48] <blackbear008> OK, roget that.
[02:48] <blackbear008> thanks, wylde.
[02:50] <blackbear008> AFK
[02:50] <blackbear008> every body.
[02:51] <stacks`> last night i performed some simple command like cd or pwd, and i got write error: Success -- i ignored it.. but now today, i typed cd and suddenly: -bash: cd: write error: Success .. i can continue to carry on with my duties but this is bugging me out. is my drive going bad? anything i can do to check?
[02:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:53] <builder> !xdd
[02:53] <whitemagic> can someone recommend me a good app for monitoring CPU and maybe motherboard temps on a laptop?
[02:53] <blackbear008> ?
[02:54] <builder> !xxd
[02:54] <Carl_Miller> !chicken
[02:54] <blackbear008> !?
[02:54] <blackbear008> why are you use :!?
[02:54] <blackbear008> why are you using ! ?
[02:54] <blackbear008> !xxd
[02:54] <blackbear008> ?
[02:55] <trism> !msgthebot
[02:56] <Gnea> whitemagic: lm-sensors
[02:56] <builder> !readelf
[02:56] <builder> whaaa
[02:56] <builder> !objdump
[03:04] <z3k3> test
[03:04] <z3k3> test
[03:07] <dlentz> !ping | z3k3
[03:07]  * ede Ping | Could not be resolved to an IP address
[03:09] <blithen> How do I add my external hardrives files to the mlocate database?
[03:10] <chousho> thank you, wylde
[03:12] <mdel> hey i installed ubuntu on my mac, but now the ubuntu option is not there in the bootloader
[03:12] <mdel> any ideas
[03:12] <mdel> ?
[03:13] <blackbear008> may be it is MAC poblems
[03:15] <blackbear008> builder,are you there?
[03:21] <serdotlin> mdel, insert back your live USB/CD, boot, after login run on terminal this command> sudo update-grub...i dunno maybe this could help...
[03:22] <mdel> serdotlin: i ended up installing refit, unfortunately
[03:22] <mdel> i think i can get rid of it now that its recognized
[03:23] <ExpFist> Is there anyway to determine which source a package is from?
[03:23] <ExpFist> I have one test server that has a specific package available, where my prod box doesn't have it available
[03:23] <ExpFist> Trying to figure out which source I need to add to get the package I need
[03:24] <wylde> ExpFist: apt-cache ploicy <packagename>
[03:24] <wylde> policy*
[03:25] <ExpFist> Ahh perfect. New command learned!
[03:25] <ExpFist> Thanks
[03:25] <wylde> np :)
[03:28] <acid_mark> hi
[03:29] <acid_mark> i just installed kde 4.7.2 and now i see it is using 879 mb of ram just barely running kde
[03:29] <mcc> (Just asked a question like this in #linux then meant I had a more ubuntu-specific question)
[03:30] <mcc> I have a game, I would like to build a Linux version of it so people don't have to build it themselves, however when I build with Ubuntu 11.10 and then give people the exe many of them say they get the error: "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15? not found"
[03:32] <mcc> Is there a package I can install on Ubuntu 11.10 that will give me packages for Ubuntu 11.04
[03:32] <mcc> sorry, that was asked poorly
[03:32] <[snake]> mcc, haha yeah... i have no clue what you mean... :P
[03:33] <[snake]> wait
[03:33] <[snake]> I think I get it now.
[03:33] <mcc> is there a package i can install on ubuntu 11.10 that will give me old libraries, so that exes i build will work on 11.04?
[03:34] <[snake]> better :) sorry though Idk
[03:34] <mcc> heh
[03:37] <zorg24> can i get some help setting xchat up for espernet
[03:38] <zorg24> im doing something wrong
[03:38] <Lint> mcc, just install 11.04 and build a package there
[03:38] <mcc> that's what i'm looking at, yeah
[03:38] <zorg24> can anyone help?
[03:38] <mcc> what's the oldest ubuntu version people are likely to use?
[03:39] <mcc> if i install 10.04 should that be good?
[03:39] <Lint> !lts
[03:39] <mcc> i can install anything, all my linux is running in a vm
[03:39] <mcc> zorg24 what problem are you having
[03:39] <mcc> lint: sounds like a good argument in favor of 10.04. thanks!
[03:39] <cfedde> mcc: once you learn to install an older one then supporting even older versions becomes a marketing problem.
[03:41] <Monkeypaws> Hey all. Just created my first LVM, works fine, but the last harddrive i added i forgot to format to xfs.  it was already formatted for xfs but i didnt know if i had to format it again before adding it to the LVM.  it added fine, no errors or anything.  Will this crash and burn later or am i ok?
[03:42] <zorg24> congrats
[03:42] <zorg24> btw i know aboutlvm other than it being tricky to set up
[03:42] <Monkeypaws> thanks
[03:42] <Lint> technically you can install the corresponding libraries into a separate directory and set pkg-config to look there first
[03:42] <Monkeypaws> yah it wasnt too bad
[03:42] <Monkeypaws> im thinkin i should remove the drive from the LVM, format it, then add it back
[03:48] <blithen> Now when I try to run cmus it doesn't do anything. :|
[03:48] <mdel> is it possible to mount my ubuntu partition in OSX?
[03:51] <vexaxv> anyone on here play minecraft?
[03:51] <KatsumeBlisk> Does the Daily 12.04 build get updated on Thursday?
[03:51] <KatsumeBlisk> As in, if I install it, I'll be running the release on Thurs
[03:52] <trism> KatsumeBlisk: if you install it and install the normal updates you will have the final version, yes
[03:53] <KatsumeBlisk> trism, Thanks. I was just making sure that if I installed, I wouldn't have to reinstall later.
[03:53] <jgmdev> which date is set as the final release for 12.04?
[03:53] <KatsumeBlisk> April 26 jgmdev
[03:53] <serdotlin> katsumeBlisk: just running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:54] <KatsumeBlisk> serdotlin, and nothing will break since they're the same release. ;)
[03:54] <jgmdev> KatsumeBlisk, thanks :)
[03:58] <jgmdev> installed 12.04 on my laptop and the new unity feature to access the applications menu with ALT key is a great improvement, still a lot of typing and keyboard shortcuts to get somewhere and using the Mod key for application traversal causes the shortcuts windows to always show
[03:59] <jgmdev> Mod + Tab for application switching causing also opens the shortcuts help window
[04:00] <schultza> how do i get the mic working on a laptop for ubuntu?
[04:00] <schultza> what's the best way to install python 2.7 on 10.04
[04:00] <icallitvera> okay i have ubuntu 10.04 server running cups and have a printer configured and have my lubuntu 12.04 laptop connecting to the server and can see the printers shared but none of the printing dialogs (leafpad abiword libreoffice) show anything besides print to file
[04:00] <icallitvera> what do?
[04:02] <icallitvera> no one?
[04:02] <schultza> that was a mass join  (server split recently?)
[04:03] <O0ddity> So i am having an issue with 11.10 and RFkill
[04:04] <O0ddity> i have managed to turnof softblockign and hardblocking of my wifi driver, but dmesg is showing it is still blocked
[04:04] <jgmdev> icallitvera, do you have the printer installed by using the printing setup application?
[04:05] <Lint> you need a gtk cups backend installed
[04:05] <icallitvera> Lint i have the standard system-config-printer installed if thats what you are talking about
[04:05] <acid_mark> hi.......kde uses 800 mb of ram just at startup without opening any app .......?
[04:05] <O0ddity> where can i learn about the network manager in ubuntu
[04:05] <icallitvera> jgmdev yes i used the http cups interface
[04:06] <icallitvera> or whatever they call it
[04:07] <Lint> do you have libprintbackend-cups.so
[04:07] <Lint> ?
[04:07] <O0ddity> I have a question, why is it that everytime i install linux on a fairly common laptop, it completly fails to work with at least one crutial piece of hardware
[04:07] <Mneumonic> Is there a way to remove the unity panel on the second monitor?
[04:08] <smw> O0ddity, because there is no hardware support from the manufacturers?
[04:08] <Lint> in its options
[04:08] <O0ddity> intel?
[04:08] <smw> O0ddity, it works fine on my laptop
[04:08] <O0ddity> the wifi driver did actually work during install
[04:08] <smw> O0ddity, the people who make the hardware don't make the drivers on linux.
[04:09] <O0ddity> intel tend todo so
[04:09] <smw> O0ddity, so what hardware is not working?
[04:09] <LeV91> Be more specific. WHAT crucial piece of hjardware?
[04:09] <O0ddity> iw3945
[04:09] <O0ddity> iwl3945
[04:09] <smw> O0ddity, so, the wifi does not work
[04:10] <icallitvera> Lint i have looked at the config for the cups server on my laptop and the one on the server, one is ipp and the other is dnssd could this be the problem (under the "Device URI" in the settings )
[04:10] <O0ddity> yeh
[04:10] <smw> O0ddity, hm... that is a bug then
[04:10] <smw> because it should work
[04:10] <O0ddity> well its very wierd i'm trying to figure out where the bug actualy is
[04:11] <O0ddity> i dont know if its in the driver its self
[04:11] <O0ddity> or todo with RFkill
[04:11] <LeV91> configuration most likely
[04:11] <icallitvera> oh i just got it to work :) it works with the dnsssd config and not the ipp
[04:11] <O0ddity> i've tried a bunch of stuff with 'modprobe -r' and then' RFkill unblock all'
[04:12] <smw> O0ddity, what does rfkill list say?
[04:12] <O0ddity> as well as the laptops keyboard Fn-F5 wifi switch
[04:12] <amadews> hy i am new whit linx  my ask is ,is there a way to upgrade from 9.04 to actual version?
[04:12] <O0ddity> well i can get it to report hardblocking and soft block offf
[04:12] <O0ddity> but when i run Dmesg
[04:12] <smw> amadews, not without doing every one in between
[04:13] <Sagrado> amadews
[04:13] <Sagrado> yes
[04:13] <O0ddity> the last 4 lines say the oposite
[04:13] <smw> amadews, or reinstalling
[04:13] <Sagrado> amadews you can download the latest version
[04:13] <Sagrado> and reinstall it whole
[04:13] <Sagrado> and that would be the bright thing to do
[04:13] <schultza> cant wait for the next LTS to be released
[04:13] <Sagrado> latest ubuntu = 12.1
[04:13] <smw> O0ddity, what does rfkill say?
[04:13] <Sagrado> ^see topic
[04:13] <amadews> i tray to upgrade to 9.10
[04:13] <amadews> but fail
[04:14] <smw> O0ddity, pastebin it
[04:14] <Sagrado> 9.10 is um quite old
[04:14] <O0ddity> ok
[04:14] <Sagrado> latest is 12.1
[04:14] <schultza> 12.04 beta... what are you thinking
[04:15] <Sagrado> thats beta...
[04:15] <schultza> latest is 11.10
[04:15] <amadews> whit out a download i cant  upgrade to 11.10?
[04:15] <asdqweaweas> i cant install ubuntu on my desktop
[04:15] <asdqweaweas> can anyone help me?
[04:16] <smw> asdqweaweas, what is the problem?
[04:16] <milamber> !9.10 | amadews
[04:16] <Sagrado> smw he on old version
[04:16] <Sagrado> wana go to latest one
[04:16] <Sagrado> and schultza thanx for that..lol
[04:17] <smw> Sagrado, what?
[04:17] <smw> Sagrado, who is on old version?
[04:17] <amadews> not me:)
[04:17] <asdqweaweas> smw: i have 3 partition ..C, D and E..i have Windows on C and i want to install Ubuntu on D
[04:17] <asdqweaweas> but i cant
[04:18] <asdqweaweas> it saying something No root file found
[04:18] <smw> asdqweaweas, how are you installing it?
[04:18] <smw> Wubi?
[04:18] <smw> or booting from the CD
[04:18] <asdqweaweas> smw: nope, i have Ubuntu CD
[04:18] <O0ddity> gitpaste.com/paste/658
[04:19] <smw> asdqweaweas, so you are in "manual partitioning"?
[04:19] <asdqweaweas> smw: yes
[04:20] <O0ddity> snw: here is the paste  http://www.gitpaste.com/paste/658/
[04:20] <smw> asdqweaweas, you need to make the partition you want to use mounted on "/"
[04:20] <smw> asdqweaweas, no quotes
[04:20] <asdqweaweas> smw: you mean i need to create a new partition?
[04:21] <smw> asdqweaweas, you are selecting a partition and reformatting, yes?
[04:21] <asdqweaweas> smw: yes, i select and clicked on format
[04:21] <amadews> 2 part one  for root and one swap
[04:21] <asdqweaweas> even i tried to delete that drive
[04:21] <asdqweaweas> but when i logged on windows again
[04:21] <asdqweaweas> nothing deleted
[04:22] <smw> asdqweaweas, when you format, select "ext4" as the filesystem type and / as the mount point
[04:22] <smw> asdqweaweas, got it?
[04:22] <asdqweaweas> smw
[04:22] <asdqweaweas> ok i will try
[04:22] <asdqweaweas> thanks
[04:24] <asdqweaweas> smw: also i want to join Ubuntu Loco team..is it possible?
[04:24] <smw> O0ddity, truthfully, I don't know. My wireless just works and it has been a long time since I needed to mess with it.
[04:24] <smw> asdqweaweas, loco? localization?
[04:24] <asdqweaweas> smw: yes
[04:25] <smw> asdqweaweas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu#The_Ubuntu_Translation_Tool:_Rosetta
[04:25] <O0ddity> that cool, i am mostly hoping i can get some clues about the chain of command todo with RFkill and my driver
[04:26] <O0ddity> im guessing i need to download Rfkill source, not just kernal
[04:26] <O0ddity> because the kernal source for this driver, doesnt reveal much
[04:26] <asdqweaweas> smw: should i need to use rossetta ?
[04:27] <smw> asdqweaweas, I suggest getting on the mailing list and asking how you can help
[04:27] <asdqweaweas> smw: ok
[04:27] <smw> asdqweaweas, I have no special tips ;-). http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved and its sublinks tell you just about everything
[04:29] <smw> asdqweaweas, where are you from/what language?
[04:29] <asdqweaweas> smw: Bengali
[04:29] <asdqweaweas> i am from Kolkata
[04:29] <asdqweaweas> west bengal, India
[04:30] <smw> asdqweaweas, hm, don't think there is a LoCo for that yet :-)
[04:30] <smw> asdqweaweas, there is one for Hindi/Tamil. But not Bengali.
[04:30] <asdqweaweas> smw: wow :)
[04:31] <ClientAlive> I installed awesome window manager on my minimal server install but it won't fire up. If I type "awesome" in my terminal and hit <enter> I get - E: awesome: main:378: cannot open display"  What can I do to fix this??
[04:38] <wylde> !xorg
[04:38] <swampthing> coudn't connec to 2600??
[04:39] <ClientAlive> ubottu: so if my window manager name is "awesome" I would type: "sudo /etc/init.d/awesome"  ??
[04:40] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: try "startx"
[04:41] <ClientAlive> holy cow... I don't have x on my system - this is minimal!
[04:42] <ClientAlive> what is the package name? Just "x"? or "xorg"?
[04:42] <zykotick9> !info xorg
[04:43] <ClientAlive> well wait a min. what it says is: "The program 'startx' is currently not installed..."
[04:43] <ClientAlive> says: "bash: !info: event not found"
[04:44] <akajedi> hi! somebody use this NetBeans 7.1.1 + ZF + Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[04:45] <ClientAlive> buy there is a directory "/etc/X11" and it does contain what appear to be xorg files.
[05:18] <akajedi> sorry.  somebody use this NetBeans 7.1.1 + ZF + Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[05:18] <xuwei> ok
[05:18] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: you need to mount it first
[05:18] <xuwei> yes
[05:18] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: how?
[05:18] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: are you in a multiboot environment?
[05:18] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: windows + ubuntu?
[05:18] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: nope, using ubuntu 11.10 only
[05:18] <xuwei> yes
[05:19] <xuwei> I will witch to ubuntu slowly
[05:19] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: does nautilus show that your drive /dev/sdb1 mounted?
[05:19] <nimbiotics> yes
[05:19] <nimbiotics> jongbergs:  yes*
[05:20] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: then you should be able to access the drive rigth from nautilus
[05:20] <Guest23113> Ever open office?
[05:20] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: and i can, but i need to access it from the cli
[05:21] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: you to to /media
[05:21] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: cd /media
[05:21] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: i can see it in the media,
[05:21] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: done, THX
[05:22] <paulus68> !precise|jatt
[05:22] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: ok what do you want to do with cli?
[05:22] <Guest23113> design a open office database, then try to make it running in mysql.
[05:23] <nimbiotics> jongbergs: Im ok already, just following instructions to have slack on usb, THX again!
[05:24] <xubuntu976> hello
[05:24] <Garr255> hey all, I have a question: I have a program I'm trying to execute, rtorrent, but after following a tutorial that used the username "seeder1" and I try to run this, it gives me: rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/seeder1/rtorrent/.session/", No such file or directory
[05:24] <jongbergs> nimbiotics: ok no probs. good luck!
[05:24] <akajedi> May I ask, How can I fix it: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_event: assertion `WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed
[05:24] <Garr255> does anyone know how do change the dir its looking in to just /rtorrent/.session/ ?
[05:25] <Garr255> I'm root on a ubuntu 10.10 shell if that matters
[05:26] <hemanth> Garr255, cd /home/seeder1/rtorrent/.session/
[05:26] <hemanth> works?
[05:26] <Garr255> no
[05:26] <Garr255> it is installed in just /rtorrent/
[05:28] <xubuntu976> Did you try installing it to the default directory?
[05:29] <nimbiotics> probs again, I need to execute a certain shell script but (using nautilus), I cannot change its properties to allow execution, rnor any other properties. what can I do?
[05:29] <hemanth> nimbiotics, sudo chmod a+x your_script
[05:29] <Garr255> no, I used this tutorial: http://goo.gl/aqYHW there were some crazy directory move commands that I didn't really follow
[05:29] <nimbiotics> hemanth: THX
[05:30] <hemanth> Garr255, did u try : sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[05:31] <Garr255> i compiled it from source
[05:31] <Garr255> but I'll do that now
[05:31] <rumpe1> Garr255, you could set a link
[05:31] <xubuntu976> I've found that if you don't follow tutorials to the letter, something always goes awry.
[05:31] <hemanth> tar xvf rtorrent-0.9.0.tar.gz   is missing in that link of ur Garr255
[05:32] <Garr255> explain please :P
[05:32] <rumpe1> Garr255, ln -s /rtorrent/.session /home/seeder1/rtorrent/.session
[05:32] <Garr255> yes I did tar xvf rtorrent-0.9.0.tar.gz when it was needed and not in the tut
[05:32] <hemanth> ok
[05:32] <harry> how can i join java channel?
[05:32] <Garr255> ln: creating symbolic link `/home/seeder1/rtorrent/.session': No such file or directory
[05:33] <rumpe1> Garr255, then first create the directory /home/seeder1/rtorrent
[05:33] <hemanth> harry, you need a java certificate to do that!
[05:33] <Garr255> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/seeder1/rtorrent': No such file or directory
[05:33] <Guest65848> how can i get java certificate?
[05:33] <OldOneEye> how do i uninstall gnome and leave just kde on my system
[05:33] <Garr255> and sudo gives me the same thing
[05:33] <Garr255> using mkdir
[05:34] <nimbiotics> hemanth: Its not workin, Im not getting any error or warning messages but it just fails to apply the new permissions!
[05:34] <hemanth> Guest65848, wget?
[05:34] <YetAnotherUser> hi
[05:34] <hemanth> nimbiotics, what's the message?
[05:34] <vexaxv> hey guys is the lack of support from adobe bother anyone?
[05:34] <nimbiotics> hemanth: no, no message at all
[05:34] <vexaxv> no longer supporting adobe air on linux, does that make u guys wonder if they will ever not support flash/reader?
[05:34] <hemanth> nimbiotics, is it a bin file, what kina file is it?
[05:34] <rumpe1> Garr255, "/home/seeder1/rtorrent/.session/", No such file or directory    ... well... you have to check how far the path exists. Does /home/seeder1 exist at all?
[05:35] <YetAnotherUser> does anyone know a good z80-assembler, a simulator? even tried some on windows but they did anything but work
[05:35] <nimbiotics> hemanth:  -rw-r--r-- 1 nimbiotics nimbiotics    2245 2009-08-04 20:20 bootinst.sh
[05:35] <hemanth> nimbiotics, well....sudo bash bootinst.sh
[05:35] <rumpe1> Garr255, but it sounds more and more like a really bad install. I'd recommend removing it as far as it is possible and use the recommended way using the package manager.
[05:35] <CellTech> I am attempting to get video/voice chat to work on my computer. Are their maybe some google plug ins I need extra?
[05:35] <Guest65848> is there any java chat room i can join?
[05:36] <ztag100> #java
[05:36] <YetAnotherUser> guest why do you need a javachatroom?
[05:36] <nimbiotics> hemanth: you r a genius, THX a lot!!!
[05:36] <YetAnotherUser> or a channel about java?
[05:36] <Guest65848> sorry channel, i am new to java and learning?
[05:36] <Garr255> rumpe1, derp. thanks I'm making that dir now. it is a vps so I'll just wipe it and start over if this fails...
[05:36] <hemanth> Guest65848, don't learn it
[05:37] <Guest65848> why not
[05:37] <hemanth> Guest65848, learn something better
[05:37] <hemanth> Guest65848, maybe python
[05:37] <Garr255> rumpe1, awesome! the ln worked!
[05:37] <Guest65848> whats better than java
[05:37] <Garr255> rumpe1, thanks :D
[05:37] <YetAnotherUser> java isn't all bad... just trouble^^
[05:38] <hemanth> nimbiotics, enjoy
[05:38] <Guest65848> why python is better?
[05:38] <rumpe1> Guest65848, any language without a stepmother like oracle :>
[05:38] <YetAnotherUser> both are good? python is easier?
[05:38] <nimbiotics> hemanth: nope... did not work: bootinst.sh: line 53: ./boot/syslinux/lilo: Permission denied
[05:38] <hemanth> nimbiotics, better drive a taxi, than java
[05:38] <YetAnotherUser> hi excaliber
[05:38] <nimbiotics> hemanth:  java?
[05:38] <Garr255> I'm in love with IRC now. Its one of the greatest technologies to date :D what, 15 years and counting?
[05:38] <YetAnotherUser> well... i learn assembler atm
[05:38] <hemanth> nimbiotics, su; bash bootinst.sh
[05:39] <hemanth> Guest65848,   better drive a taxi, than java
[05:39] <hemanth> nimbiotics, sorry that was not for u
[05:39] <YetAnotherUser> garr255 true - sad  there aren't enough good webclients
[05:39] <hemanth> nimbiotics, your file system seems to screwed up
[05:39] <nimbiotics> hemanth: ?!?
[05:39] <Garr255> I use x-chat
[05:39] <hemanth> nimbiotics, su; bash bootinst.sh ...tired that ?
[05:40] <Garr255> web clients aren't very good :P
[05:40] <YetAnotherUser> so, does anyone know a *working* z80-simulator?
[05:40] <nimbiotics> hemanth: yup, no luck either
[05:40] <YetAnotherUser> x-chat or weechat, yes
[05:41] <hemanth> LukeNukem, lol
[05:41] <YetAnotherUser> will take a look at jsirc in some month. well... first z80 then things that make sense^^
[05:41] <LukeNukem> hemanth, sup?
[05:41] <nimbiotics> YetAnotherUser	Fuse-emulator??
[05:42] <YetAnotherUser> fuse-emulator? just searching one second
[05:43] <CellTech> There. Something said download and install ALL Gstreamer addons
[05:44] <YetAnotherUser> if you know it nimbiotics, does it support z80 8bit-commands?
[05:46] <blithen> Can anyone decipher this for me? http://pastebin.com/3HzGjrMK
[05:46] <blithen> And maybe lead me towards a package that would fix it?
[05:49] <aaas> when i move a window i want to see the outline move not the window..where is that setting?
[05:50] <YetAnotherUser> aaas just move the mouse a bit on the side of the window
[05:50] <YetAnotherUser> there sometime comes an arrow-like shape and then you can pull
[05:50] <YetAnotherUser> could you just try?
[05:51] <aaas> im not trying to expand it i just want to show the outline of the entire window when i move it
[05:51] <aaas> instead of the actual window
[05:51] <aaas> so it should look like a lined box when it moves
[05:51] <aaas> not the window
[05:51] <YetAnotherUser> hm i don't know... for what do you need it?
[05:51] <YetAnotherUser> sounds difficult, but maybe there's a way
[05:52] <aaas> im connecting via nx to display :0 and it updates very sllowly
[05:52] <aaas> an outline would be faster
[05:52] <aaas> i have it working in vnc for some reason so I would think there's a way
[05:52] <aaas> is there an 'effects' setting somewhere..to turn off visual effeects?
[05:53] <YetAnotherUser> i don't know. on my old laptop i use low graphic settings, but i don't know whether it is what you're searching for
[05:54] <YetAnotherUser> could still be faster then
[05:54] <aaas> where are the unity/beryl/whatever settings that controls the bells and whistles of the window manager?
[05:54] <aaas> like animate when minimize
[05:54] <aaas> things like that
[05:56] <aeon-ltd> aaas: you mean 'ccsm'?
[05:57] <aaas> maybe ..thats for compiz?
[05:57] <aeon-ltd> yes
[05:57] <aaas> hmmm im not sure compiz is enabled so im not sure that's the right palce
[05:57] <aaas> i just need to know the equivalent for 2d gnome
[06:01] <aaas> here it is fyi: run gconf-editor apps->metacity->general->'reduced resources'
[06:03] <adam_> does anyone know how to configure apache mod_bw on ubuntu machnine
[06:04] <OldOneEye> how do i completely remove gnome and gnome 2d
[06:05] <aaas> OldOneEye why do you want to remove?
[06:05] <Lint> gnome 2D? there´s no such thing
[06:05] <OldOneEye> i just install kde
[06:05] <o0tjaxt0o> lol unity 2d ?
[06:05] <OldOneEye> and in the selection list at login it has gnome 2d
[06:06] <OldOneEye> i just want kde how do i remove all gnome
[06:06] <Jacky> Install Kubuntu over your system?
[06:07] <gulzar> Which theme is this? http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TOmPPw_WKsI/AAAAAAAACUo/3JHDf60vuSc/s2000/grub-customizer-2.0.png   and  http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TOmPgMD2l4I/AAAAAAAACUs/O4iov5Q5lMY/s2000/grub-customizer-appearence.png .
[06:07] <o0tjaxt0o> sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell gnome
[06:07] <OldOneEye> ive installed kubuntu
[06:08] <OldOneEye> im running it now
[06:08] <o0tjaxt0o> and you want to remove the gnome files
[06:09] <o0tjaxt0o> you can have the best of the two :P
[06:09] <OldOneEye> well how then can i switch gnome to classic
[06:09] <OldOneEye> i dont like the side bar
[06:10] <dr_willis> ! classic
[06:10] <gulzar> OldOneEye: open settings from sheel and under info you can "ON" fallback mode
[06:10] <OldOneEye> huh?
[06:11] <altabq> i have  a problem with texlive 2011 on ubuntu
[06:11] <altabq> the aliases all don't work correctlz
[06:11] <altabq> such as tlmgr, biber etc
[06:11] <altabq> all the commands are not binded
[06:12] <altabq> is there a way to fix that in an automated way. or do i have to make aliases manually in .bashrc
[06:13] <altabq> wrong channel sorry
[06:13] <tw0tw0nin3> hello , how i can create file in /etc
[06:13] <tw0tw0nin3> ?
[06:13] <o0tjaxt0o> what channel you going to
[06:14] <dr_willis> use sudo as needed tw0tw0nin3
[06:14] <YetAnotherUser> do you have read and write right usw. tw0 ?
[06:14] <tw0tw0nin3> yes , i know , but i dont what should i type
[06:15] <dr_willis> sudo whatevercommand
[06:15] <YetAnotherUser> you want to create an empty file there? what kind of a file?
[06:15] <dr_willis> we need more details
[06:15] <gulzar> tw0tw0nin3: open file manager with sudo. [ sudo nautilus] and can easily create the desired file
[06:15] <tw0tw0nin3> .client
[06:15] <tw0tw0nin3> in etc/ppp
[06:15] <o0tjaxt0o> use gksudo for that
[06:16] <altabq> tw0tw0nin3 #latex
[06:16] <dr_willis> sudo nano path/to/file
[06:17] <altabq> o0tjaxt0o *
[06:20] <tw0tw0nin3> thanks dr_willis
[06:29] <rabbi1> any software suggestion for designing a architectural buildings ...
[06:30] <ioboku> hello guys, just a simpleton question: if I download and install the latest beta from the ubuntu website for 12.04, is it likely that I am to face upgrade problems to final?
[06:30] <OldOneEye> i just bought a domain how do i link it to my server box
[06:30] <ioboku> don't have much time to do distro switching in the next few days :P
[06:30] <OldOneEye> do i run a dns server?
[06:30] <fidel_> ioboku: maybe - but i guess not. apart from that #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 questions
[06:31] <ioboku> fidel_: thanks
[06:38] <OldOneEye> i just bought a domain how do i link it to my server box
[06:38] <OldOneEye> do i run a dns server?
[06:41] <Sevith> Hey all, I have an issue. I have an ASUS G53SX and it has a backlit keyboard, but it doesn't work with ubuntu 11.10. Does anyone have an ideas?
[06:42] <vexaxv> any idea why google plus video flickers..minecraft flickers etc
[06:43] <Sevith> Anyone?? :(
[06:44] <Coke> I'm on 11.10, I've added a WIRED network connection, but nothing happens for eth0. How do I actually make it USE the wired connection?
[06:44] <harsh343> how to find the role of users through command terminal ?
[06:44] <Sevith> Coke, do sudo ifconfig make sure the interface is up then do dhclient eth0
[06:44] <harsh343> means i want to know my role throught terminal
[06:44] <Coke> by "added a WIRED connection" I mean, I clicked "Edit connections..." in the menu
[06:44] <Coke> Sevith: Im not using DHCP
[06:44] <harsh343> through*
[06:44] <Coke> Sevith: which is why I explicitly edited a wired connection to set the IP etc
[06:45] <Coke> eth0 is there, just don't have no IP
[06:45] <Sevith> Coke, So your router isnt handing out dhcp requests...?
[06:45] <Coke> Sevith: there's no router.
[06:46] <Sevith> where is your gateway
[06:46] <Coke> Sevith: I don't know, it's provided by the ISP
[06:46] <Coke> Sevith: but probably somewhere in the building. Why does it matter?
[06:46] <Coke> Does Ubuntu need to know where the gateway is physically? :)
[06:46] <Sevith> what static ip did you set
[06:47] <Coke> Sevith: the one that was allocated to me
[06:47] <CellTech> What does 'sudo apt-get autoclean' do exactly?
[06:47] <Sevith> Subnet/mask good then?
[06:47] <Coke> Look, it's a real simple question: how do I actually make Ubuntu start the wired network that I added in the Edit connections GUI?
[06:47] <Coke> Sevith: DUDE
[06:47] <Sevith> ...
[06:47] <Coke> My eth0 isnt getting a bound IP
[06:48] <Coke> should I just fuck all with network manager and do the old debian network interfaces thingy?
[06:48] <Coke> Is network manager broken / does not have option to use wired connection?
[06:48] <ReXHaviK> Coke, why yes, the debian method should work swell
[06:49] <Rar9> hi can someone help me to install php 5.3.10 on Ubuntu?
[06:49] <Mneumonic> I minimized Chrome but now I can't bring it back up.  Where do programs minimize to in Unity?
[06:49] <Rar9> Ubuntu 10.04
[06:49] <Coke> ReXHaviK: so basically, network-manager doesnt work with wired networks?
[06:49] <fidel_> Rar9: where is your problem?
[06:49] <Rar9> finding the right libary
[06:49] <ReXHaviK> Coke, it does work with ethernet, works fine
[06:49] <Coke> I don't see any "start network" options for my newly added wired network.
[06:49] <fidel_> what version of php does your 10.04 offers via apt?
[06:50] <Rar9> same with mysql 5.6
[06:50] <Coke> ReXHaviK: so how do I start it? how do I bind those values to eth0 ?
[06:50] <Rar9> 5.3.2
[06:50] <Coke> ReXHaviK: the network is in Edit connections with all the correct specs, but there's no option to start it.
[06:50] <fidel_> Rar9: my 12.04 comes with 5.3.10 :/
[06:50] <ReXHaviK> Coke, share them correct specs, would you?
[06:51] <Rar9> but that will only be out in 2 days
[06:51] <mah454> Please do not run this command : $(echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p)
[06:52] <Coke> ReXHaviK: what?
[06:52] <Coke> My question is super duper simple: how do I start a wired network from the network menu in 11.10 ?
[06:52] <fidel_> Rar9: so whats your plan now?
[06:52] <Sevith> Coke, You dont. There is no "START" option.
[06:52] <Sevith> The taskbar should have it listen
[06:53] <Sevith> listed*
[06:53] <Coke> Sevith: listen for what?
[06:53] <Coke> I've added the static IP, netmask, gateway and a primary DNS to the network manager "Edit connections..." dialog.
[06:53] <Coke> It says "last used 20 minutes ago"
[06:53] <Coke> how can I make it use it again?
[06:53] <ReXHaviK> Coke, click on the network icon, and click on 'enable networking'
[06:53] <Coke> ReXHaviK: it is enabled
[06:53] <Sevith> ...
[06:54] <ReXHaviK> Coke, must be them specs you edited?
[06:54] <Coke> ReXHaviK: they shouldnt matter
[06:54] <Coke> even if I have the WRONG settings, eth0 should get a WRONG IP at least
[06:54] <ReXHaviK> Coke, great, then you will sort it out
[06:55] <Coke> holy fuck, cant even start wired networks, but I guess unity looks pretty.
[06:55] <mgolisch> Coke: is it configured in interfaces? i think networkmanager leaves alone all interfaces that are configured via the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:55] <bazhang> Coke, stop the cursing
[06:55] <Tm_T> !ohmy | Coke
[06:56] <Coke> mgolisch: it's configured in network manager
[06:56] <ReXHaviK> Coke, share them correct specs, would you?
[06:56] <Coke> ReXHaviK: what are you talking about?
[06:56] <Coke> what specs?
[06:57] <Sevith> I have an ASUS G53SX and it has a backlit keyboard, but it doesn't work with ubuntu 11.10. Does anyone have an ideas?
 ReXHaviK: the network is in Edit connections with all the correct specs, but there's no option to start it. <-- them, you mentioned them
[06:59] <Coke> ReXHaviK: why would you need them?
[06:59] <Coke> Well, goode olde Debian method still works fine. I guess network manager is b0rked
[06:59] <Rar9> fidel_ I would like to setup the server with the lastest php & Mysql that will work with Drupal.
[06:59] <ReXHaviK> Coke, i dont, i dont really care, you do, i thought?
[06:59] <Coke> ReXHaviK: no, the "specs" as you say don't matter.
[06:59] <Coke> what matters is that network manager does not bind the IP to eth0
[07:00] <fidel_> Rar9: are you planning to update to 12.04 shortly?
[07:00] <ReXHaviK> Coke, have a good evening, i have to go do my hair now
[07:01] <Sevith> I have an ASUS G53SX and it has a backlit keyboard, but it doesn't work with ubuntu 11.10. Does anyone have an ideas?
[07:01] <StephaneScot> Sevith: I'm totally unfamiliar with that model but check /sys/class/leds there may be a symlink there to whatever file controls the backlight
[07:02] <vancha> hey mensen
[07:02] <fidel_> Rar9: the options i see is: jump to 12.04 vs install latest php manually on your 10.04 box vs find a ppa which brings 5.3.10 to 10.04
[07:02] <fidel_> but i really dont know which of those 3 options is best for you ;)
[07:02] <vancha> does anyone have a problem with unity when minimising windows?
[07:02] <fidel_> vancha: define problem ;)
[07:03] <vancha> if i minimise a window (say google chrome) it is lost forever :O if i click the google chrome icon in the launcher, it just opens a new window fidel_
[07:03] <fidel_> tried alt+tab?
[07:04] <Rurd2di> open your hsitory
[07:04] <Rurd2di> and u can reopne your old pabs
[07:04] <vancha> yes alt tab does nothing, it does not show the window, it really just closes when i click minimise, but it DOES show an animation that looks like it gets put in the launcher
[07:04] <Rurd2di> oh and u can change your chrome settings to restore your last session on startup
[07:05] <vancha> thx Rurd2di , but it happens on other applications too :)
[07:05] <ReXHaviK> Sevith, look at the correlation between acpi=off and backlit keyboards, seems from what i read you can have backlit but you lose something else due to running with the kernel in acpi off, or i got it all wrong
[07:05] <Coke> Nice. Stopping network kills the unity desktop, leaving me with no way to exit the system except power button.
[07:06] <Coke> ctrl+alt+backspace? no.
[07:06] <Rurd2di> ReXHaviK: time for reinstall :)
[07:06] <Rurd2di> somethings fucked
[07:06]  * ReXHaviK bought a nice cheap unlit keyboard
[07:06] <bazhang> Rurd2di, no cursing here
[07:07] <Coke> My
[07:07] <Rar9> fidel_  I don´t realy mind updateing.. as long at the 12.04 will still work with plesk 10
[07:09] <Guest74062> Coke: disconnect the battery or the cable
[07:09] <Coke> is there any good reason that you can't use ctrl+alt+Fx keys in buntu?
[07:10] <Guest74062> Coke: try without ctrl
[07:10] <fidel_> Coke: those should work afaik
[07:10] <Coke> well, I guess using the Debian networking stuff did a number on the system
[07:11] <Coke> because unity died, but I had an xterm open so I could shutdown -r
[07:11] <Coke> regardless, Ubuntu still doesn't work with a wired connection using a static IPv4 address
[07:11] <Coke> I guess it's not common enough for them to put that feature into network manager.
[07:11] <fidel_> Coke: it does in general - but yeah i had issues with network manager too in the past
[07:12] <Coke> fidel_: the issue is that there's no option to activate a specific network
[07:12] <Tm_T> Coke: it's common, and it works usually, ofcourse there's cases when something doesn't work as expected
[07:12]  * ReXHaviK has a static connection, managed by network manager, kubuntu 11.10 , works great
[07:12] <Coke> Tm_T: I cannot make network manager bind the IP
[07:12] <fidel_> Coke: personaly i would go for cli & conf files ;)
[07:12] <Coke> fidel_: I did, upon networking restart unity died
[07:12] <fidel_> Coke: well not using unity here - cant say anything unity related
[07:12] <Tm_T> Coke: so the gui for networkmanager you have in use doesn't have that option?
[07:13] <Coke> Tm_T: no
[07:13] <bouma> would forcing TRIM on an entire 16gb flash stick speed it up?
[07:13] <Coke> I've added the static network, but no way to start it
[07:13] <Coke> It's there... All setup. It just won't bind it to eth0
[07:13] <bouma> it there a way to return it to a fast state?
[07:13] <bouma> also does CONFIG_SCHED_AUTOGROUP actually help with desktop. ie stopping sound from skipping under load
[07:15] <garthk> G'day, all.
[07:17] <garthk> Anyone know why I can't install a package on plain lucid32 until I've done an apt-get dist-upgrade? https://gist.github.com/2469318
[07:18] <garthk> (It's rabbitmq-server, from a PPA, but still: why would this not work on lucid32 out of the box, but work after dist-upgrade?)
[07:28] <sveinse> I have a server with lvm (on a datacenter). I want to move the data to another pv. The doc sais (and is probably obligated to) to back up the system, but is it generally unsafe or is it just a precaution?
[07:28] <sveinse> I'm not trying to talk myself out of taking backup, but should I expect the pv move to fail?
[07:29] <ReXHaviK> sveinse, since you brought it up now it will fail, do the backup
[07:30] <sveinse> hehe, yes, of course...
[07:33] <itachi_08> hello.. is anyone here using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS version
[07:33] <greenit> how can i make an application-launcher in ubuntu 11.10 with unity?
[07:34] <bazhang> itachi_08, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 please
[07:34] <itachi_08> ok bazhang
[07:34] <itachi_08> thanks pal
[07:36] <OldOneEye> how do i get my webcam working in skype
[07:36] <OldOneEye> it works in cheese
[07:50] <c0rnel> hello all
[07:50] <cloudgeek> \ls *.C* | sed 's/\(.*\).C\(.*\)/mv & \1.cc\2/' | sh
[07:50] <c0rnel> is there a way to download a .deb file using apt*?
[07:50] <cloudgeek> can anybody explain thsi to me
[07:50] <MrPinky> If it's recommended to install self-compiled libraries in /usr/local/lib, why isn't /usr/local/lib in the linker search path by default?
[07:50] <c0rnel> download from existing sources, that is
[07:50] <cloudgeek> this file reanaming
[07:50] <cloudgeek> one line
[07:52] <malvika> unable to connet wifi from ubuntu as host on vmware
[07:52] <malvika> ??
[07:52] <[deXter]> cloudgeek, it renames all the .C* files to .cc*
[07:53] <[deXter]> cloudgeek, like, if theres a firefox.Cpp, it'll be renamed to firefox.ccp
[07:53] <malvika> unable to connect to wifi from ubuntu on vmware host vista
[07:53] <malvika> ?????
[07:54] <[deXter]> malvika, Just use NAT on VMware, and don't bother with wifi
[07:54] <[deXter]> Unless you're having a USB wifi adapter, in which case you can pass it thru the guest OS
[07:54] <malvika> deXter its not working with nat too
[07:55] <[deXter]> malvika, Tried bridged mode?
[07:55] <malvika> DExter yes i tried bridged mode too
[07:55] <malvika> Dexter and i am using college wifi
[07:55] <[deXter]> malvika, Well have you tried VirtualBox?
[07:56] <malvika> Dexter nope
[07:56] <[deXter]> Yep, I know you're using college Wifi. BIT, to be exact. :)
[07:57] <mcc> Is there some way to update just one single package out of ubuntu to a newer dist?
[07:57] <[deXter]> malvika, I would recommend VirtualBox, it works out of the box with Windows as a host and Ubuntu as guest. No need to configure the adapters manually
[07:57] <mcc> For example I'm using 10.04... i installed this verison specifically so i could build 10.04 binaries
[07:57] <malvika> dexter k
[07:57] <mcc> however i'm now finding my cmake appears to require a slightly newer version of cmake than i have
[07:57] <mcc> my cmake script does, i mean
[07:57] <c0rnel> mcc, *maybe* apt-get install <packagename>
[07:59] <c0rnel> mmm, or dpkg -i
[07:59] <mcc> c0rnel, it says i have the newest version
[07:59] <mcc> c0rnel: i think because i do have the newest version, for 10.04?
[07:59] <[deXter]> mcc, Problem is that you could break other apps that require an older version of cmake
[07:59] <OldOneEye> how do i uninstall ubuntu from boot install along side windows 7
[08:00] <mcc> dexter: probably true, except (1) i'm about to do that anyway only worse when i install cmake from source, and (2) i only set up this linux vm in the first place to build one program
[08:00] <[deXter]> mcc, Then you could manually download the deb for the newer cmake and install it
[08:00] <mcc> that sounds great
[08:01] <mcc> can i just get that from the ubuntu website or something?
[08:01] <c0rnel> mcc, also you may wanna make a backup of the vm files, just in case :)
[08:01] <mcc> yeah
[08:01] <mcc> maybe i should install from source anyway just so I can install to ~/usr :/
[08:03] <wisnia> hi, anyone could recommend me a 3d rendering software?
[08:03] <mcc> ...blender?
[08:03] <wisnia> anything else?
[08:04] <mcc> i've heard good things about wings 3d
[08:04] <mcc> i do not know much about 3d rendering
[08:06] <Martas> hi wanna ask if someone did not solve problems with ipv6.. i have machine, but after reboot it wont load ipv6 settings from network/interfaces.... no error in logs or etc... any tips?
[08:07] <Martas> and when i try to restart network it says SIOCADDRT: File exists Failed to bring up eth0. ... but i'm not wise from that...
[08:07] <Martas> nothing i found did explain me what should i made wrong ..
[08:12] <theTroy> For anyone who this might help : VBOX declines to launch any VM after computer is suspended and woken up. (pgm error). If you clear read cache from memory, it starts up normally afterwards. (saves restarting the pc)
[08:17] <c0rnel> theTroy, how do you clean read cache from memory?
[08:18] <theTroy> c0rnel: echo 3 to drop_caches
[08:18] <c0rnel> theTroy, thank you very much
[08:19] <paulus68> Martas: perhaps this link is usefull to you http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314819
[08:26] <Martas> paulus68: yeah, already read that.. but nothing usefull
[08:26] <fazzajr> G'day
[08:26] <fazzajr> first time user here
[08:28] <fazzajr> exit
[08:29] <blez> when will 12 come out?
[08:29] <auronandace> blez: 26th
[08:29] <blez> good
[08:35] <Ademan> every time I need it, I forget the command. I want to list the symbols in a .so file
[08:39] <llutz> Ademan: "nm"
[08:39] <melvincv> hi all, how do I increase the number of recent files in gedit's open list (next to the open button)
[08:40] <Ademan> llutz: thanks!
[08:42] <aLBa^> Hey, I'm setting up a server, but as I'm fairly new to ubuntu, I want a GUI. I access the server using realvnc, but I found out that if it doesn't have a monitor attached, Ubuntu doesnt boot
[08:43] <melvincv> aLBa^, Did you install a GUI for the server?
[08:43] <aLBa^> I found a guide that says to configer a monitor device in xorg.conf ( I believe), but now it doesnt boot nor does it when I attach a monitor
[08:43] <aLBa^> I installed the desktop version
[08:46] <aLBa^> just found this: http://skerit.com/en/computer/english-vnc-x11-session-on-ubuntu-12-04-server-without-monitor-or-graphics-card/
[08:48] <Lantizia> Lo, I've always had a long standing issue (Ubuntu 9.04 through to 11.10)  where if my laptop lid is closed for a while, when I open it back up the cursor starts spontaneously right clicking for about 15 minutes.  I know it's not the laptop as I've since had the trackpad replaced - any ideas?
[08:51] <theTroy> Lantizia: I regularly get the mouse doing weird things as well after suspend, but usually, clicking all touchpad buttons + swyping over it fixes the issue
[08:51] <Lantizia> theTroy, yeah I get that - which laptop do you have?
[08:56] <itachi_08> =^.^=
[08:57] <mimoid> How well will my Radeon 7750 work?
[08:58] <lxgrx> has the ability to decrypt obfuscated ipsec group passwords from .pcf files been removed from network manager in 12.04?
[09:00] <maodun> I'm looking for the xorg evtouch library xserver-xorg-input-evtouch, but I am unable to find it. Has it been renamed or merged into another library?
[09:02] <maodun> I see a xserver-xorg-input-tslib: how is that related?
[09:03] <anonymous> hi
[09:03] <Guest85608> you there?
[09:03] <Guest85608> are you there
[09:04] <Guest85608> ?
[09:05] <Guest85608> hi
[09:05] <Guest85608> you there
[09:05] <Guest85608> ?
[09:05] <Guest85608> glcrazy?
[09:05] <Guest85608> hi benkinooby
[09:06] <Guest85608> are you there
[09:06] <Guest85608> ?
[09:06] <Guest85608> online?
[09:06] <FloodBot1> Guest85608: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <Guest85608> is anyone there
[09:06] <Guest85608> ?
[09:06] <Guest85608> exit
[09:06] <Guest85608> sudo apt-get install
[09:06] <Guest85608> exit
[09:06] <FloodBot1> Guest85608: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <mimoid> FloodBot1: He doesn't understand!
[09:10] <thedudefornow_> you are talking to a bot?
[09:12] <fl1bbl3> :)
[09:13] <c0rnel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-7eZyPWtE
[09:15] <c0rnel> eh, the originla is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LjkC3eT6LA&feature=related
[09:16] <llutz> !ot | c0rnel
[09:16] <c0rnel> llutz, roger
[09:16] <Mayazcherquoi> Why is Ubuntu's network *always* so slow? This is snail's speed compared to what I was getting on Windows. :-/ Are there any settings/configs I am able to change to try and rectify this?
[09:20] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, have you looked to see if you are getting errors or collisions on the network interface? Also what ethernet device is it
[09:20] <Mayazcherquoi> waln0, and no, I'm unsure of how to do that.
[09:22] <chiliblue> ifconfig -a should tell you if there are errors
[09:22] <Mayazcherquoi> No errors, and no collisions.
[09:24] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, are you using unity desktop
[09:25] <lexxen> Hi, what is official solution (distr) for slow laptops?
[09:25] <chiliblue> if you are right clock on the wireless icon top right, whats in connection info
[09:26] <chiliblue> right click rather
[09:26] <lexxen> when is new release?
[09:26] <acid_mark> on 26th april
[09:27] <Mayazcherquoi> This is ridiculous.
[09:27] <chiliblue> I used xubuntu when I wanted something less demanding that full on ubuntu. No idea what the offical lite distro is
[09:27] <Mayazcherquoi> chiliblue: Happened again :-/ I missed anything after "No errors, and no collisions."
[09:27] <Mayazcherquoi> Sorry
[09:27] <chiliblue> ok you in unity?
[09:28] <Mayazcherquoi> gnome-shell
[09:28] <chiliblue> right click in the wireless icon top right and tell me whay connection info says
[09:28] <chiliblue> ah?
[09:28] <szal> April 26.. Codename Chernobyl? :D
[09:29] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, do you know what wireless chipset you have?
[09:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Broadcom chipset.
[09:29] <Mayazcherquoi> But I installed the firmware-b43-fwcutter when i installed this distro.
[09:30] <odonata> hai. i have a problem making hlds (cs server) start listening to a port.
[09:30] <odonata> just says "closed"
[09:30] <Mayazcherquoi> And I haven't had problems in Jaunty when i last tried Ubuntu.
[09:31] <odonata> is there any built-in firewallning feature in ubuntu ?
[09:32] <chiliblue> odonata iptables
[09:33] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, I am suing broadcom and I am getting a good connection in 11.10
[09:33] <chiliblue> suing = using
[09:34] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, how is it listed in lspci
[09:35] <DansTheMan> This is getting beyond a joke now...
[09:35] <DansTheMan> chiliblue: Sorry, missed aything after <odonata> is there any built-in firewallning feature in ubuntu ?
[09:36] <chiliblue> iptables does firewalling,
[09:36] <DansTheMan> chiliblue: Halp :(
[09:36] <chiliblue> but that is what I would start looking at,
[09:37] <ServerCrash> does anyone knows any applicaiton that will log the cpu temparture, cpu load and memory free for a given period of time, and then can generate graphs,csv etc
[09:37] <ServerCrash> i am trying to monitor my systems performance when i run a specific program
[09:37] <Pumpkin-> DansTheMan: try reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW, should get you started.
[09:37] <DansTheMan> ServerCrash: I've seen several in the Ubuntu repositories?
[09:37] <ServerCrash> DansTheMan, name some
[09:38] <DansTheMan> Pumpkin-: What's this?
[09:38] <ServerCrash> i know lm sensors help in getting those details
[09:39] <Pumpkin-> DansTheMan: documentation about ufw (the uncomplicated firewall), the recommended ubuntu way to do firewalling
[09:39] <DansTheMan> Pumpkin-: I don't need firewall? :S
[09:39] <Pumpkin-> oh
[09:39] <Pumpkin-> I misinterpreted what you said earlier
[09:39] <Pumpkin-> sorry
[09:39] <DansTheMan> I'm here to try and resolve my internet from constantly dropping, and to stop it if it isn't dropping, from being at snail speeds.
[09:39] <DansTheMan> It was 1000x times faster on Windows, yet on Ubuntu it isn't.
[09:40] <chiliblue> what module are you using DansTheMan
[09:40] <melvincv> If I'm right, there is no firewall by default in Ubuntu...
[09:40] <melvincv> no enabled firewall, at least
[09:41] <faustische> How do I set up Debian to mount iPod folders like Ubuntu. I mean Ubuntu mounts to filesystems for a jailbroken iPod, one for system folders and one for application folders.
[09:41] <faustische> I have installed the following packages: libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4
[09:41] <llutz> faustische: ask in #debian
[09:41] <faustische> But Debian only opens my photos folder
[09:41] <DanDan95> Back, sorry
[09:41] <DanDan95> Internet dropped AGAIN
[09:42] <DanDan95> I missed everything after "<Pumpkin-> sorry"
[09:42] <DanDan95> Please help guys :'(
[09:43] <faustische> Ubuntu 11.10 fails to mount my iPod, what's wrong?
[09:43] <faustische> There used to be a command to fix this
[09:43] <DanDan95> Guys/girls, please?
[09:43] <faustische> "tie" or something like that
[09:43] <ikonia> faustische: apple devices are supported very badly with linux, especially since ios5.X
[09:43] <DanDan95> chiliblue / Pumpkin- ?
[09:43] <ikonia> DanDan95: help with what ?
[09:44] <faustische> ikonia, oh no, the Ubuntu support is greater than Windows'
[09:44] <ikonia> faustische: no, it's not
[09:44] <faustische> ikonia, yes it is, if you have a jailbroken ipod
[09:44] <ikonia> faustische: apple devices have support in windows through itunes, no linux is supported for apple devives
[09:44] <faustische> ikonia, I've been syncing and transferring files to my iPad and iPod on Ubuntu for years
[09:44] <DanDan95> ikonia: My internet keeps dropping, and has done for most of my time using Ubuntu.
[09:44] <DanDan95> It's at crawl speeds. It is safe to say that Windows was 10000x faster (literally).
[09:44] <faustische> ikonia, jailbroken ipod, of course
[09:44] <ikonia> faustische: it's not "better" supported, in linux if you think it is, great, good for you, byt you will have problems
[09:44] <ikonia> faustische: you've been working for years...yet as I've just said it's changed since ios 5
[09:45] <faustische> ikonia, wrong!
[09:45] <ikonia> faustische: then if I am wrong you should have no problems with your ipod and not be asking questions about why it doesn't work
[09:45] <chiliblue> DanDan95 whats the broadcom come up as in lspci
[09:45] <faustische> ikonia, bounce
[09:49] <chiliblue> DanDan95, lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[09:54] <mint> Hallo people!
[09:55] <chiliblue> hallo
[09:55] <mint> I must recover data from an ext4 file system partition. Does it exists a software that scans the partition and recover files, their name and directories structures?
[09:56] <llutz> mint: try photorec
[09:57] <mint> llutz: done, but it recovers in a way that filenames and directory structure is lost.
[09:57] <DanDan95> Net dropped again...
[09:58] <DanDan95> chiliblue: Not sure if you got this before, but: <DanDan95> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[09:58] <DanDan95> And it just disconnected again, but luckily quickly reconnected...
[09:58] <llutz> mint: well then... checked foremost, not sure if that would recover full dir-trees
[09:59] <chiliblue> ok, I use a BCM4313
[09:59] <DanDan95> chiliblue: J/w, is it possible to just install Windows without overwriting the GRUB bootloader (without having to come back into Ubuntu)?
[10:00] <mint> llutz: foremost... had you try it?
[10:00] <llutz> mint: nope, i have backups :)
[10:01] <mint> :)
[10:01] <chiliblue> DanDan95, not something I have done before to be honest, personally I would make a back up boot disc to get me back in to ubuntu.
[10:01] <DanDan95> mint: Do you know if it's possible to?
[10:01] <DanDan95> chiliblue: Mmk.
[10:02] <DanDan95> Sorry, but I'm just fed up. Constantly drops, never used to. Even on my most recent Windows it never dropped, had a perfect connection. My sister, two rooms further away from the router than I can maintain a connection. I've come here for a couple of days now and nobody bothers to help. I've googled and searched around to no avail.
[10:02] <mint> DanDan95: no. the winX reinstallation overwrite the boot sector so you'll lost grub loader
[10:02] <DanDan95> Frankly I'm just fed up, sorry FOSS community.
[10:02] <llutz> DanDan95: windows always will overwrite the MBR, so you'll have to recover grub somehow
[10:03] <DanDan95> mint / llutz : Okay, well, thanks.
[10:03] <tizbac> DanDan95, what wifi chip are you using?
[10:03] <chiliblue> DanDan95, have you got the STA drivers installed
[10:03] <DanDan95> tizbac: BCM4311
[10:03] <DanDan95> chiliblue: STA?
[10:04] <chiliblue> Broadcom STA WIreless Drivers
[10:04] <DanDan95> You mean proprietary drivers? No, Ubuntu blacklisted them for some reason.
[10:04] <tizbac> b43 afaik needs proprietary drivers to work best
[10:04] <chiliblue> I have them installed
[10:04] <DanDan95> So I had to install via firmware-b43-fwcutter
[10:04] <chiliblue> in 11.10 and they work fine
[10:04] <tizbac> with proper drivers b43 chips are the best ones under linux
[10:04] <DanDan95> chiliblue: And how long have yuo been using Ubuntu? I'm unable to download them from the Ubuntu servers via the Additional Drivers GUI, and so are several other people.
[10:05] <tizbac> for this reason they are used on most android phones and routers
[10:05] <DanDan95> /var/log/jockey.log states that they're "blacklisted".
[10:05] <tizbac> DanDan95, unblacklist them then
[10:05] <chiliblue> DanDan, ubuntu a few years, linux generally since 1995
[10:05] <tizbac> blacklist files are under /etc/modprobe.d
[10:05] <DanDan95> tizbac: Yeah, idk how.
[10:05] <chiliblue> this install, september
[10:06] <OerHeks> DanDan95, maybe it is an energy saving problem >>> http://davidcortijo.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/ubuntu-11-10-avoid-wireless-network-energy-management/
[10:06] <DanDan95> # replaced by b43 and ssb.
[10:06] <DanDan95> blacklist bcm43xx
[10:06] <DanDan95> Well, what d'ya know?
[10:06] <DanDan95> OerHeks: I'm plugged in.
[10:06] <chiliblue> Unblack list them
[10:08] <neurotech> What IRC clients do you guys recommend for ubuntu?
[10:08] <DanDan95> I have.
[10:08] <DanDan95> Do I have to restart or..?
[10:08] <DanDan95> neurotech: Irssi or XChat.
[10:08] <DanDan95> chiliblue / tizbac: Should I uninstalled firmware-b43-fwcutter?
[10:09] <chiliblue> restart network I would think would do it
[10:09] <DanDan95> Before going into Additional Drivers and installing the "proper" driver?
[10:09] <DanDan95> Ohk.
[10:09] <DanDan95> How would I go about doing that?
[10:09] <sneumann> Hi, network-manager used to store connections in gconf back in 10.04 days. Upon upgrade to 12.04 they live in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[10:09] <sneumann> Question: How to migrate information from gconf to /etc/Network-manager ?
[10:09] <tizbac> no , you need to load bcm43xx
[10:09] <tizbac> if you are unsure , just reboot
[10:10] <DanDan95> tizbac: And if my internet no longer connects?
[10:10] <tizbac> use a cable
[10:10] <DanDan95> If only it was that easy..
[10:10] <chiliblue> it should connect
[10:11] <DanDan95> Anyways, bbl, restarting.
[10:11] <faustische> hi
[10:11] <chiliblue> using the cutter stuff, then when you get connected install the additional drivers
[10:12] <faustische> What are the packages responsible for mounting iOS filesystems in Ubuntu? I mean the one that mounts a filesystem with shiny App icons and all.
[10:12] <chiliblue> tizbac, do you think that's the last we will see of him?
[10:12] <tizbac> lol
[10:13] <faustische> ...with which you can transfer files to your iPad applications back and forth
[10:13] <faustische> I'm trying to compile them on Debian
[10:13] <faustische> Debian folks have never heard of it
[10:14] <DaZ> you lost me with that shiny app icons part :f
[10:14] <faustische> DaZ, You only get them with a jailbroken apple device
[10:15] <arothe> ow
[10:15] <arothe> #ow
[10:15] <faustische> DaZ, and with a couple of SSHing and hacking your iDevice you can sync your brand new iPad2 with Banshee
[10:16] <jameslord> hi all
[10:16] <faustische> I hate software piracy but Dinner Jacket's stupid policies have made the international community to embargo my country
[10:17] <jameslord> life sucks:(
[10:17] <faustische> That's why I jailbroke my iPod and iPad
[10:17] <jameslord> ls
[10:17] <ranjan> hi all, does anybody here have the link to the funny image of a pilot in cockpit with the "enter activation key" screen while landing
[10:18] <Mayazcherquoi> I am now connected via cable!
[10:18] <Mayazcherquoi> Yay :)
[10:18] <faustische> I was happy with my Ubuntu boxes up until Canonical moved to Unity and the gnome-shell feels awkward out of the box
[10:19] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: By the way, upon clicking the "Activate" button, I get this:
[10:19] <Mayazcherquoi> 2012-04-23 20:14:15,587 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[10:19] <Mayazcherquoi> 2012-04-23 20:14:15,699 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[10:19] <Mayazcherquoi> Even though I commented out the blacklist line!
[10:20] <sudipta> hi......I have a problem with a icon pack.Workspace switcher icon is not displayed .How should  I change the theme pack?
[10:20] <Mayazcherquoi> chiliblue: Also to you.
[10:21] <Mayazcherquoi> Even ethernet cable is slow..
[10:22] <tizbac> Mayazcherquoi, then it's your router the problem
[10:22] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: No.
[10:22] <Mayazcherquoi> My sister is connected perfectly.
[10:22] <Mayazcherquoi> When on windows on this computer, it connects perfectly.
[10:22] <tizbac> that is the problem i guess
[10:22] <sudipta> hi......I have a problem with a icon pack.Workspace switcher icon is not displayed .How should  I change the theme pack?
[10:22] <tizbac> maybe she is downloading
[10:22] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: No, I checked.
[10:23] <Mayazcherquoi> Wait, nvm, it isn't slow via ethernet. Just from my frustration from all of this.
[10:24] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: What can I do?
[10:25] <tizbac> try to load drivers manually
[10:25] <tizbac> with modprobe
[10:25] <Mayazcherquoi> How?
[10:25] <Mayazcherquoi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:25] <Mayazcherquoi> Also, last entry.
[10:25] <Khas> Hello.  I upgraded my server (vps) from maverick to oneiric, and now I have to start networking manually every time the machine starts.  Can anyone help?
[10:25] <sudipta> hi......I have a problem with a icon pack.Workspace switcher icon is not displayed .How should  I change the theme pack?
[10:26] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: Not sure if that may help? :s
[10:27] <Mayazcherquoi> Now I've lost wireles...
[10:27] <Mayazcherquoi> Yaayyyy!
[10:28] <mint> llutz: foremost... now using it... seem it works fine
[10:28] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've got a cronjob running: /usr/bin/php -c /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini /var/www/Newsletters/construct_automated_rss_feed.php  it began(as it emails me on start) yet nothing appeared to happen, any way I can log the results of that or similar from my cronjob?
[10:29] <stevegjacobs> #join openstack
[10:30] <stevegjacobs> join #openstack
[10:31] <Kartagis> Ive just installed an ATI graphics card. how do I verify the driver has been loaded?
[10:32] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: Please? :-/
[10:32] <tizbac> Mayazcherquoi, all i can suggest you is trying to switch drivers
[10:32] <tizbac> using modprobe
[10:33] <tizbac> and modprobe -r
[10:33] <Mayazcherquoi> I don't know how1
[10:33] <tizbac> see what works better
[10:33] <tizbac> and blacklist others
[10:33] <tizbac> modprobe b43
[10:33] <tizbac> for example
[10:33] <tizbac> if it sucks , then modprobe -r b43
[10:33] <tizbac> and modprobe wl
[10:33] <tizbac> etc
[10:33] <FloodBot1> tizbac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay, thank you.
[10:34] <Mayazcherquoi> I just did modprobe b43, and it can now detect networks but it won't conncect to the router lol, even though it's right next to it.
[10:34] <tizbac> bcm4311 is used on the wrt54gl , so it works perfectly under linux
[10:34] <tizbac> since linux 2.4
[10:34] <ap> i was wonder if it was ok now to chage sources list and upgrade?
[10:34] <Mayazcherquoi> Umm
[10:34] <Mayazcherquoi> tizbac: FATAL: Module wl not found., when attempting modprobe wl
[10:35] <tizbac> then try bcm43xx
[10:35] <Mayazcherquoi> FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found.
[10:35] <fl1bbl3> ouch, broadcom
[10:35] <soreau> ! broadcom | Mayazcherquoi
[10:36] <Mayazcherquoi> soreau: Do you not think I've tried that already?
[10:36] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: I don't know what you have or have not tried already
[10:36] <Mayazcherquoi> I came here with issues with my net stuffing up constantly (yes, after those wireless drivers were installed), since it was at crawl speeds and had intermittent drops and I was asking how to fix it or change any configs.
[10:37] <Mayazcherquoi> Then I was told to install the STA wireless drivers, and I had to unblacklist them because they initially were. restarted, tried to, lost wireless. Now getting it back again.
[10:37] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: Change your wifi card. Broadcom sucks :)
[10:37] <Mayazcherquoi> soreau: If only it were that easy...
[10:38] <Fat-Thing> hello!
[10:38] <soreau> howdy
[10:38] <neurotech> Is there a way to have the Unity sidebar never show unless i hit Super?
[10:39] <Mayazcherquoi> How can I uninstall the network manager and try wicd instead?
[10:39] <Fat-Thing> i downloaded a file from the net and i want to install it but i dunno how? how can i install it from the terminal? i downloaded playonlinux file
[10:39] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: You can stop the network-manager service and nm-applet, then start wicd
[10:39] <Mayazcherquoi> Fat-Thing: In terminal, cd to the directory where you installed it. Then, type ./playonlinux (or whatever the name is).
[10:40] <Mayazcherquoi> E: Unable to locate package nm-applet :-/
[10:40] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: It's a process. Check 'ps ax|grep nm-applet'
[10:40] <burg> hello. still no way to install gnome 2 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:41] <Mayazcherquoi> Yeah, it's there
[10:41] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: You can use 'kill $PID' or 'killall nm-applet'
[10:41] <Mayazcherquoi> nm-applet: no process found
[10:41] <Mayazcherquoi> :-/
[10:42] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: To stop network-manager, just run sudo service network-manager stop
[10:42] <Mayazcherquoi> :-/
[10:42] <Mayazcherquoi> It's gone from my notification area now
[10:42] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: Then if 'ps ax|grep NetworkMananger|grep -v grep' shows nothing, you can try wicd
[10:42] <Mayazcherquoi> I just started the wicd service.
[10:42] <Mayazcherquoi> All is OK
[10:43] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, but is your connection any better
[10:43] <Mayazcherquoi> chiliblue: I'm on ethernet, so yeah.
[10:43] <chiliblue> lol
[10:43] <Nikki_> Only 3 days until the release of the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS!!!
[10:43] <Kartagis> Ive just installed an ATI graphics card. how do I verify the driver has been loaded?
[10:43] <Mayazcherquoi> And soreau:  5616 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -4 -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-e65853aa-2869-4c5d-8baf-c1752f336f6d-eth0.lease -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf eth0
[10:43] <christhisisgool> nikki_: cant wait!
[10:44] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: You can kill dhclient.. related processes
[10:44] <Mayazcherquoi> And will I have to do it every single time I boot up?
[10:46] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: Yes, unless you script it to automate when you start up
[10:46] <Mayazcherquoi> Omg this is ridiculous.
[10:47] <patr|ck> Hello. to be able to build an application i need "gdk_pixbuf-2.0" but i cant find that package in apt-cache - any tips please?
[10:47] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: It's not ridiculous, ubuntu doesn't use wicd by default. If you want to use it, you have to install and configure it
[10:47] <Mayazcherquoi> Cya guys, thanks for everything. I appreciate it, I really do. :) But Linux just isn't my computers preference :-/
[10:47] <soreau> Peace.
[10:47] <ap> peace
[10:47] <Mayazcherquoi> soreau: May not be, but still crappy wireless support ;)
[10:48] <Typo_> peace on you!
[10:48] <ap> is it ok to upgarde at this point by amending sources file?
[10:48] <chiliblue> Mayazcherquoi, to be honest worked out of the box on this device,
[10:48] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: The reason braodcom isn't supported well is because braodcom doesn't release their hardware spec so someone can write a decent driver for it
[10:48] <Mayazcherquoi> Maybe so.
[10:48] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: It's not linux fault that proprietary companies don't release hw specs, such as broadcom and nvidia
[10:49] <itachi_08> am back
[10:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Mhmm
[10:49] <christhisisgool> patr|ck: the package you are looking for is called libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev
[10:49] <soreau> Mayazcherquoi: So it's not crappy wireless support, every other chip than broadcom mostly works great
[10:49] <soreau> without installing any additional driver
[10:49] <soreau> he isn't worthy to use the almighty linux, not yet
[10:50] <patr|ck> christhisisgool, this package does not exist on my Ubuntu 10.04
[10:50] <christhisisgool> oh. in that case its probably because you are on an outdated system. ( not technically speaking, it still has some life left in it, but some packages are available only on the more up to date systems)
[10:51] <christhisisgool> so if i were you i would either try and update your system, or i would just download the source code from somewhere.
[10:52] <christhisisgool> patr|ck: i found a site that has the source code if you still need it: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/gdk-pixbuf-58007.shtml
[10:52] <patr|ck> thank you!
[10:52] <christhisisgool> no problem
[10:54] <patr|ck> oh, how do you untar *.xz files? *shy smile*
[10:55] <christhisisgool> well, if you are using ubuntu there should be a extract here thing in nautilus. other wize just go into a terminal and type tar xvf <filename>
[10:55] <christhisisgool> *wise
[10:56] <patr|ck> archive type not supported, hmph
[10:56] <christhisisgool> then just go into the terminal and untar it using tar xvf <filename>
[10:56] <patr|ck> that wont work either
[10:57] <christhisisgool> oh. do you have tar installed
[10:57] <christhisisgool> ?
[10:57] <patr|ck> tar: xz: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
[10:57] <patr|ck> it requires the binary for whatever the format handles
[10:58] <Cloudone> hey all can anyone help me make my connection secure please
[10:58] <christhisisgool> patr|ck, im not sure what the actual package name is, but its something along the line of xz utils
[10:58] <patr|ck> lzma is the name i suppose?
[10:58] <christhisisgool> so do apt-cache search xz-utils and then install it
[11:00] <christhisisgool> patr|ck: btw, this appears to be a known bug. there are several bug reports on this issue. the solution is generally to actually install the xz utils
[11:00] <uni4dfx> How do I prevent windows from opening maximized in Ubuntu Classic? It's been driving me insane.
[11:01]  * patr|ck turns into a lovely female and hugs christhisisgool - thank you
[11:02] <christhisisgool> no problem, patr|ck
[11:02] <ServerCrash> does anyone knows any application that will log the cpu temparture, cpu load and memory free for a given period of time, and then can generate graphs,csv etc
[11:03] <Rienzilha> munin
[11:04] <Arlee> Have you tried System Profiler and Brenchmark, ServerCrash?
[11:04] <ServerCrash> Arlee, how to use system profiler to log data for long periods and then being able to export the given data
[11:06] <Arlee> ServerCrash, I have never tried logging it this way. I'm searching right now
[11:07] <kveras> How can I unbind the meta key to launch applications listed in my launcher? I would like to use meta+1-9 to switch to the corresponding viewport, but the native keybinding seems to override this.
[11:08] <kveras> I would still, however, use meta key to launch the dash.
[11:08] <VivekVC> I am getting the error message Apr 23 16:24:44 zion squid[8375]: MIME Config Table /usr/share/squid/mime.conf: (2) No such file or directory
[11:08] <VivekVC> I am trying to install squid on Ubuntu Oneiric
[11:09] <Cloudone> Severcrash get system monitor
[11:09] <zamba> argh.. why is the ubuntu cd changed so that you no longer can use it as a recovery disk?
[11:10] <zamba> now it insist on booting live instead of giving you the choice of doing memtest or "boot from first hard drive"?
[11:10] <zamba> why do ubuntu continue to shoot itself in the foot like this?
[11:10] <zamba> alienating their own users
[11:10] <zamba> it's beyond me
[11:10] <zamba> same with unity
[11:10] <christhisisgool> use gentoo
[11:10] <zamba> christhisisgool: so the answer is that you can't really use the ubuntu cd as a recovery cd?
[11:11] <zamba> i'm stunned by this
[11:11] <christhisisgool> no! no! no! i was being sarcastic. if you dont like the ease of use of ubuntu then go off to some little distro where you have to compile everything
[11:11] <christhisisgool> yes, you CAN use it as a rescue disk
[11:11] <zamba> well, how?
[11:11] <zamba> well hidden?
[11:11] <Your_Dog> lol gentoo, got to remember how hard it was for me to install it for the first time.
[11:12] <Kartagis> !ati
[11:12] <Your_Dog> even with the guides on
[11:12] <christhisisgool> whats the problem you are trying to fix? grub issue? grub can be installed from the disk
[11:12] <christhisisgool> lol Your_Dog....i had a similiar experience
[11:13] <christhisisgool> oh no.....zamba is right: you cant just do a memtest on ubuntu anymore
[11:14] <Arlee> ServerCrash, you may check out also Psensor to see if that's what you want.
[11:14] <zamba> well, right now i have a "missing operating system" when booting my machine
[11:15] <zamba> i've just booted off the installation disk and i'm able to mount the disk just fine, so there has to be a problem with the mbr
[11:15] <zamba> so i need help fixing that from the live session
[11:15] <n0cturnal> tail -n 0 -f /var/log/syslog | grep PlexBroadcast | awk '{system("/usr/bin/updateplexstatus " $0 )}' <-- no matter what I do, it refuses to pass any parameters to the script... any ideas?
[11:20] <zamba> hm, i tried reinstalling grub, but to no avail
[11:21] <mydogsnameisrudy> !grub
[11:24] <melvincv> christhisisgool well, the option is hidden... If from the live cd, press any key when the indigo screen comes up (guys, what's that screen with an accessibility icon that comes up after booting from the live cd?)
[11:25] <c_nick> close
[11:29] <caddoo> port 443 must be open and forwarded to use SSL on a webserver
[11:29] <caddoo> right?
[11:29] <harsh343> I am trying this but not works what i can do ??????????????????? -sh-4.1$ sudo ./SenchaArchitect-2.0.0.run
[11:29] <harsh343> [sudo] password for harsh:
[11:29] <harsh343> harsh is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:29] <harsh343> -sh-4.1$
[11:29] <FloodBot1> harsh343: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:29] <caddoo> I'm not being crazy or anything
[11:29] <harsh343> please help me
[11:30] <JuJuBee> I just finished a fresh re-install of 11.10, is it possible to copy a config file from previous install to maintain my installed printers?
[11:30] <harsh343> help ?
[11:30] <mohtadi> hi everyone
[11:30] <mohtadi> i have a question / problem if you could help me please :)
[11:31] <mohtadi> in fact, one day, i rebooted ubuntu because it stoped responding
[11:31] <mohtadi> after that, i have no longer access to GDM
[11:31] <iceroot> harsh343: you are running ubuntu?
[11:31] <iceroot> mohtadi: which ubuntu version?
[11:31] <mohtadi> 10.04
[11:32] <harsh343> iceroot, I do not command to find out ?
[11:32] <harsh343> don't no*
[11:32] <iceroot> mohtadi: any errors on "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"?
[11:32] <harsh343> I am using linux on the server
[11:32] <mohtadi> ** (nautilus:1504): WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[11:32] <iceroot> harsh343: cat /etc/issue
[11:32] <mohtadi> iceroot:  ** (nautilus:1504): WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[11:32] <harsh343> fedora
[11:32] <iceroot> harsh343: #fedora
[11:32] <mohtadi> i have also no longer access to sound, net, and automatic disk mouting
[11:33] <iceroot> mohtadi: what is the output of "ps aux | grep dbus"
[11:33] <iceroot> !paste | mohtadi
[11:33] <mohtadi> i have to log on with netroot to have internet :D
[11:34] <mohtadi> iceroot:  i have
[11:34] <mohtadi> c2a       1162  0.0  0.0   3168   788 ?        S    13:25   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager c2a       1163  0.0  0.0   2924  1160 ?        Ss   13:25   0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session c2a       1970  0.0  0.0   3324   892 pts/0    S+   13:33   0:00 grep --color=auto dbus
[11:34] <mohtadi> c2a       1162  0.0  0.0   3168   788 ?        S    13:25   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager c2a       1163  0.0  0.0   2924  1160 ?        Ss   13:25   0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session c2a       1970  0.0  0.0   3324   892 pts/0    S+   13:33   0:00 grep --color=auto dbus
[11:35] <mohtadi> c2a       1162  0.0  0.0   3168   788 ?        S    13:25   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[11:35] <mohtadi> c2a       1163  0.0  0.0   2924  1160 ?        Ss   13:25   0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session
[11:35] <iceroot> mohtadi: read the test from paste from ubottu
[11:35] <mohtadi> c2a       1970  0.0  0.0   3324   892 pts/0    S+   13:33   0:00 grep --color=auto dbus
[11:35] <mohtadi> iceroot:  sorry, i didn't understant
[11:35] <mohtadi> d
[11:35] <mohtadi> *
[11:36] <iceroot> mohtadi: you said you dont have sound. how do you find out if gdm is not starting at all and you only have the console?
[11:36] <melvincv> mohtadi, please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:36] <mohtadi> ahh Pastebin : ok http://pastebin.com/NX5DgEbx
[11:36] <mohtadi> nope
[11:36] <mohtadi> i'm on XDM now
[11:38] <iceroot> mohtadi: please paste the output of these commands "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^rc | grep -v ^ii"
[11:39] <_zoom_> my ssystem takes so long time to start live cd?
[11:39] <mohtadi> iceroot:  here :) http://pastebin.com/QxRg54CK
[11:40] <iceroot> _zoom_: long means?
[11:40] <mohtadi> _zoom_:  how much?
[11:40] <jst> hi! just fresh installed 12.04 daily build (21/04) but Unity 3D seems quite slow, expecially opening and closing dash and Alt-Tab windows switcher ... I'm on a ATI graphic card with opensource drivers... any advice?
[11:40] <iceroot> jst: #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <iceroot> mohtadi: seems fine so far
[11:42] <d81> list!
[11:42] <mohtadi> iceroot: i tried to reinstall ubuntu on the same partition ( to keep my files) , i've got always the same prob...!!
[11:42] <_zoom_> more than 10 mins
[11:43] <iceroot> mohtadi: can you provide the output of "set -x; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start; set +x"
[11:44] <d81> hi guys, how can I check the list pls?
[11:44] <iceroot> !bot | d81
[11:44] <d81> !bot
[11:46] <mohtadi> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/qYwuANVu
[11:47] <iceroot> mohtadi: did not know that 10.04 is already using upstart, please use "sudo service gdm start" instead
[11:48] <mohtadi> iceroot: + sudo service gdm start gdm start/running, process 2989 + set +x
[11:48] <iceroot> mohtadi: xdm is still running?
[11:48] <mohtadi> iceroot: yep
[11:49] <iceroot> mohtadi: ok, you need to stop xdm first
[11:49] <_zoom_> iceroot: more that 15 mins
[11:49] <kwtm2> What's the offtopic channel again?
[11:49] <iceroot> !offtopic | kwtm2
[11:49] <kwtm2> thx iceroot
[11:49] <Cloudone>    #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <mohtadi> iceroot:  and then? because i won't have firefox :D
[11:50] <jst> #ubuntu+1
[11:50] <jst> what is it?
[11:50] <jst> another channel?
[11:50] <c0rnel> next ubuntu
[11:50] <jst> nice got it thx :)
[11:50] <c0rnel> np
[11:51] <tetreb> what is the purpose of the text in resolv.conf? I read that the package prevents resolv.conf being reset. How should I add a nameserver without using network manager, which I have removed?
[11:51] <iceroot> mohtadi: stop all instanzen from the x-server (sudo service xdm stop, sudo service gdm stop) then see if something is still running on tty7 (ps aux | grep X) if nothing is running there try to start gdm and see if there are usefull infos, start xdm again to post your results
[11:52] <tetreb> *package resolvconf
[11:52] <ubuntu__> Hey, need some help. After the installation of 12.04 from 11.10 failed, ubuntu cant find my SSD. Neither during installation or through GParted, someone who has some tips_
[11:53] <iceroot> ubuntu__: #ubuntu+1
[11:54] <_zoom_1> hello any help,
[11:54] <_zoom_1> this boot time is killing me
[11:55] <fidel_> _zoom_: whats your problem regarding boot-time?
[11:55] <_zoom_> fidel_: it's toooo long
[11:55] <acid_mark> hi
[11:56] <acid_mark> i installed mp3splt and it worked ook in natty but now :
[11:56] <acid_mark>  error: no plugin matches the file
[11:56] <_zoom_> fidel_: i'm tryn to boot livecd
[11:56] <acid_mark> is the error
[11:57] <mohtadi> iceroot:  hey again :) i ggot this when trying to start GDM, a window saying the following error was encoutered u may need to u'r configuration to solve the error (EE) [drm] failed to open service \n /dev/fb0 no such file or directory
[12:00] <dumbo88> zoom try liveusb?
[12:01] <randomclown> I'm on 10.04 (lucid) how do I install a package from oneiric's repository?
[12:04] <aguitel> randomclown, why do this
[12:05] <randomclown> because vps
[12:05] <kaushal> Hi
[12:06] <Pici> randomclown: Installing packages meant for a different release of Ubuntu can break your install. Mixing dependencies can have unforseen effects (usually bad ones)
[12:06] <kaushal> Any popup for gmail on ubuntu 11.10 when new email arrives ?
[12:06] <kaushal> I am using ff and chrome
[12:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> kaushal:  check out thunderbird
[12:09] <Total]> How to erase an invisible SSD with old ubuntu installation, cant find SSD during installation
[12:10] <Total]> Corsair F60A
[12:11] <Captain_Proton> does anyone know if ubuntuone can be use at the command line? Like a backup script on a server?
[12:11] <oyugik_> hey guys can I get some help re: printing in Ubuntu
[12:13] <Captain_Proton> oyugik_, whats up
[12:13] <oyugik_> Captain_Proton: I am having hell connecting to a network printer, any help?
[12:14] <mohtadi_> iceroot:  sorry i had to reboot my PC (in case you've wroten anything)
[12:15] <mohtadi_> join #ptxdist
[12:15] <Captain_Proton> oyugik_, sure how do you know the ip or how are you trying to connect
[12:15] <DannyButterman> oyugik: I can try to help. what is your printer ?
[12:15] <netiru> Hi, in bash, how can I easily navigate in a long output (if I enter 'svn help' for instance)?
[12:17] <rumpe1> netiru, "svn help | more"
[12:17] <oyugik_> I am trying to connect via ipp/lpr/samba ... which is the best method to use?
[12:18] <ahhughes_> I really miss my task bar, it tells me what I have running :( otherwise I waste time alt_tabbing, or inadvertently starting a new instance when it is not required
[12:18] <oyugik_> Captain_Proton: I am trying to connect via ipp/lpr/samba ... which is the best method to use?
[12:18] <netiru> thanks rumpe1!
[12:19] <mohtadi_> hi everyone :) i'm asking again my question :) i rebooted once my ubuntu because it stopped responding, and since that, i can no longer start gdm ( i'm starting xdm), have no longer net, sound and media mouting on my XDM, when i try to run gdm i got this ** (gdm-binary:1852): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[12:19] <mohtadi_> my ubuntu is 10.04 LS
[12:20] <Captain_Proton> oyugik_, if you do just a "find network Printer" does it come up
[12:21] <neurotech> Does anyone use Smuxi IRC?
[12:22] <krababbel> I did!
[12:24] <oyugik_> Captain_Proton:   it does, but on the section for drivers, I dont have the correct ppd file for Sharp AR 5520 printer, hence when I choose a different one it sends the data but nothing prints
[12:27] <caddoo> what is the best way to see if port 443 is routing through a firewall and to a ubuntu machine succesfully
[12:28] <fl1bbl3> https://ipaddress
[12:29] <caddoo> well I'm having a disagreement with the company that manages the router/network I'm trying to get through
[12:29] <Stanley00> caddoo: how about run nc to listen on 443, and echo "hello" if it's connected. and then from other machine, telnet 443 ?
[12:29] <fl1bbl3> or nc -p 443 -l < echo BLAH BLAH BLAH
[12:29] <caddoo> ok
[12:29] <CrazyGangster> Hello ppl, there is a way to install a grid window organizer in LXDE like compiz do?
[12:29] <_zoom_> guys, how to establish a vpn connections at boot-time
[12:29] <_zoom_> ?
[12:30] <caddoo> fl1bbl3: echo no such file or dir
[12:33] <Captain_Proton> oyugik_, well I see they do not offer linux driver, so the best thing you can try is use HP Laserjet 5n driver
[12:33] <builder> sup
[12:40] <GreekFreak> Hi all. I have a partition on my drive that I want easy access to from the terminal. At the moment I have the "cd .." a few times until I can cd into media. And THEN, the drive is labeled with a hexadecimal code. How can I make that process simpler?
[12:43] <Stanley00> GreekFreak: you can make that partition a label
[12:44] <zykotick9> Stanley00: that would only help with mounting, not cd-ing into it... GreekFreak
[12:44] <Stanley00> zykotick9: but next time, cd will be easier ;)
[12:44] <LjL> geekbri: why not just type cd /media/whatever instead of cd ..'ing repeatedly?
[12:44] <GreekFreak> I'm new to Ubuntu, but would a shortcut be a recommended workaround?
[12:44] <zykotick9> GreekFreak: what is it's full path?  rather then using "cd .." could you "cd /path/to/folder"?
[12:45] <LjL> GreekFreak: and you can hit Tab to auto-complete the hexadecimal code, of course
[12:45] <Stanley00> GreekFreak: and in case you just want to cd in to that *hẽ*, you can use the <tab> key
[12:45] <mohtadi_> hi everyone :) i'm reposting question if anyone could help !! :) i rebooted once my ubuntu because it stopped responding, and since that, i can no longer start gdm ( i'm starting xdm), have no longer net, sound and media mouting on my XDM, when i try to run gdm i got this ** (gdm-binary:1852): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[12:45] <GreekFreak> because it's full path is "/media/3E18014B1801041D"
[12:45] <zykotick9> GreekFreak: +1 on LjL TAB suggestion
[12:45] <LjL> GreekFreak: do type cd /me TAB 3E TAB
[12:45] <LjL> s/do/so/
[12:46] <zykotick9> GreekFreak: using Stanley00's LABEL suggestion would change the UID 3E18014B1801041D to something readable
[12:47] <GreekFreak> I'll into Stanley00 's label. But the TAB looks workable for now
[12:47] <GreekFreak> thanks guys
[12:48] <Captain_Proton> does anyone know if ubuntu one can be use at the command line? Like a backup script on a server?
[12:48] <Samueleimon> buenas
[12:48] <zykotick9> Captain_Proton: IF you don't get an answer here, you could try the #ubuntuone channel perhaps
[12:48] <Captain_Proton> k thx
[12:48] <Samueleimon> hello all
[12:49] <Captain_Proton> i did not even know they had one :)
[12:57] <ChechoBocina> hector loookoo
[12:59] <delinquentme> hey all when I right click and >> create document It says " No templates installed "
[12:59] <delinquentme> how do I make templates that would go here
[13:01] <Stanley00> delinquentme: you can make it in ~/Templates
[13:03] <subdesign> any idea how to access localhost with android phone trough wifi?
[13:03] <nimesh_accenture> hi guys i'm getting this error , any clue?
[13:03] <nimesh_accenture> pycurl.error: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none')
[13:03] <zykotick9> subdesign: "localhost" is the local computer/device...
[13:03] <delinquentme> Stanley00, doesnt look like its doing it .. made a ruby.rb file and its not showing up
[13:04] <subdesign> zykotick9, yes. typing into opera i get a ~not found error
[13:04] <Stanley00> delinquentme: hmm, it's strange.
[13:04] <zykotick9> subdesign: on android?  try an android channel perhaps, it's OT here.
[13:05] <subdesign> ok
[13:06] <Stanley00> delinquentme: I think you should check the permission of ~/Templates
[13:08] <Nodivide> accenture ... maybe you need to give the correct read permisions to the cert server... or program that is accessing it
[13:11] <subdesign> ok, how to get apache ip address?
[13:11] <solid_liq> !ping
[13:11] <nimesh_accenture> what does this error mean while trying to do an apt-get ?pycurl.error: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none')
[13:11] <ManDay> Has the "Is it out?" phase begun yet?
[13:11] <dexel99> hey everybody...can someone please help me with some instruction?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ManDay,  no.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[13:12] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: :P Then may I slip in a question: Is there an approximate date for when Ubuntu will come with wayland?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  with what issue?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ManDay,  wayland is in the next release.but its still a testing type stage.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> its in the repos at least.
[13:12] <dexel99> i can not install drivrer for CNet CQU-906
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  and what is that device exactly?
[13:13] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I'm just curious how much Canonical will get involved with pushing development forward
[13:13] <dexel99> it's my wireless network adapter via usb
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> dexel99,  you should try to determine what chipset its using. also the forums or askubuntu.com Might have some info for that exact model dongle.
[13:14] <Nodivide> download revoke.crl from cacert.org and copy to appropiate dir
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> 'its all about the chipset' :)
[13:14] <dexel99> i try the solution from ubuntuforum...but it still not working
[13:19] <dexel99> ok guys. thank your for support :)
[13:19] <neurotech> test
[13:19] <dexel99> it's working fine
[13:19] <neurotech> ta
[13:20] <APoulos> Would anyone want to help me with a small little command?
[13:20] <zykotick9> APoulos: "w" is the smallest command i know ;)
[13:20] <APoulos> trying to exclude a whole directory with Rsync but its not working the way I wish it would
[13:20] <APoulos> zykotick9, lolol
[13:21] <MrUnagi> my username in the user switcher says invalid utf-8….any way to fix that
[13:21] <APoulos> zykotick9, here's basically what I've got so far: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude-from="$/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, actually - scratch that, thats an older copy
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, here's what I made just a few minutes ago: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:22] <APoulos> zykotick9, the problem is that the videos directory is still made
[13:22] <zykotick9> APoulos: the will probably help the channel.  I'm an rsync noob, so can't really help.  FYI if you are using 12.04 you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 (12.04 isn't supported here) but really you should check if there is an rsync channel.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> theres proberly whole books written about rsync :)
[13:23] <MrUnagi> rsync is awesome
[13:23] <APoulos> I know, ive been reading the man pages, but some of it just isnt working the way Im reading it as
[13:23] <zykotick9> APoulos: if i where you i might test ".. --exclude=Videos ..." myself.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt check delicious.com for 'rsync tutorial' tags. :) i tend to get better hits there then google
[13:24] <MrUnagi> such as?
[13:24] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, zykotick9 I've been trying to get the bloody thing to quit creating that folder.
[13:24] <APoulos> MrUnagi, such as some exclusion params dont have examples
[13:24] <blaine00> Hey everyone!
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> isent that exclude path incorrect?  should be /home/username/Video
[13:25] <Keo-w> i moved my ubuntu vm to a 5.0 box from 4.1 now it has no networking adapter. I've tried several different ones and it comes up empty. Anyone seen this before?
[13:26] <zykotick9> Keo-w: 5.0 & 4.1 of what?
[13:27] <Keo-w> 4.1 of esx to 5.0 of esxi
[13:27] <Keo-w> copied the vm over basically
[13:28] <blaine00> Quick and easy question... will 12.04 beta 2 eventually just update to the 12.04 release or is there actually a need to installed 12.04 final when it is released?
[13:28] <iceroot> blaine00: it will update to the final
[13:28] <zykotick9> !final | blaine00
[13:28] <APoulos> and even reading some of the man pages, there aren't very direct examples..
[13:29] <blaine00> awesome, that is what I was thinking, just wanted to make sure. Thanks everyone!
[13:29] <MrUnagi> how much faster is the alternate ubuntu than the desktop
[13:30] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: if you mean the alternate cd - it's the same, after install?
[13:30] <MrUnagi> i thought alternate was cli only
[13:30] <MrUnagi> is that the server install?
[13:30] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: the install is yes
[13:30] <MrUnagi> crap lol
[13:31] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: check out mini if you want a cli desktop
[13:32] <APoulos> so
[13:32] <MrUnagi> i need to install an ssh terminal server so that it routes to the right computer based on what user I'm trying to log into or something like that
[13:32] <MrUnagi> is that possible?
[13:32] <MrUnagi> so that i don't have to forward a bunch of ports
[13:32] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, the only way out of this predicament is that I must specific /home/alex/Videos ? no shortcuts like "~/Videos/
[13:34] <mm_> I have a question, maybe you can help me?
[13:34] <APoulos> Dr_Willis, ah well it still made the folder.. rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="/home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:35] <zykotick9> !ask | mm_
[13:35] <sloucher> !patience
[13:35] <mm_> i turned my machine on this morning and the panel that's supposed to be at the top was right through the middle.
[13:35] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > sloucher
[13:35] <mm_> (of my monitor/desktop_
[13:36] <mm_> any ideas?
[13:36] <jack_^> mm_: relog?
[13:36] <mm_> yeah, tried relogging, restarting etc.  didn't help.  eventually i moved it to the left side.
[13:37] <MrUnagi> installing ubuntu into a virtual machine on ubuntu seems to crash it every time
[13:37] <APoulos> mm_, do you have Unity instead of Gnome?
[13:38] <mm_> i believe so yes, but i can check to make sure.  i've only been using this for a few daze.
[13:38] <APoulos> mm_, maybe some recent install or uninstall mightve messed up your desktop environments
[13:38] <MrUnagi> daze?
[13:38] <mm_> maybe.  that's possible.   daze = days
[13:39] <mm_> does the install have a "fix" option?
[13:39] <mm_> i don't remember.
[13:39] <Nodivide> dazed for days
[13:39] <APoulos> mm_, er, well, which one where you using previously
[13:39] <APoulos> ?
[13:39] <APoulos> mm_, gnome or Unity?
[13:39] <mm_> additionally, i'm on a mission to extend my desktop, anyone have any luck with that?
[13:40] <zykotick9> mm_: do you know what video card you are using?
[13:40] <mm_> i didn't know there was gonna be a test lol
[13:40] <zykotick9> mm_: if you can open a terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[13:40] <mm_> i'm pretty sure it's integrated.  dell laptop
[13:41] <mm_> i'll get the specifics for you.
[13:41] <APoulos> mm_, ok did one of them have a huge dock on the side panel? or did you have little thin black bars?
[13:41] <MrUnagi> crap i lost connection to my ubuntu box again
[13:41] <Nodivide> mmm dell i use to work for hell...err dell
[13:42] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i would like to copy all files in a directory structure but not the directories, how can i do that?
[13:42] <mm_> i have very few problems with it.  i will admit i would buy another dell.
[13:42] <Walther> Is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Core?
[13:42] <Walther> ubottu: ubuntu core
[13:43] <APoulos> mm_, what exactly does your desktop look like at this moment? can you screen cap it?
[13:43] <mm_> sure.
[13:43] <mm_> one sec.  jpg ok?
[13:43] <MrUnagi> anyone have any ideas why installing ubuntu in a virtual machine on ubuntu crashes
[13:44] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: what ubuntu version and what VM program?
[13:44] <Walther> Does anyone know whether Ubuntu Core supports ARMv6 or only ARMv7?
[13:44] <MrUnagi> zykotick9: 11.10 virtualbox
[13:44] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: ? i'd think that should work
[13:45] <MrUnagi> its crashed with desktop and alternate
[13:45] <astrolite> Walther: I think so, but I think it may depend on what graphics card etc that you have
[13:45] <APoulos> mm_, yes, jpeg is fine, upload to imgur.com
[13:45] <ruman> hi every one
[13:46] <crypted> anyone know if there will be a easy conversion process to x64 should it become default for 12.04?
[13:46] <Walther> astrolite: from what I've heard, Ubuntu (as in, Ubuntu) is being built for ARMv7 upwards, was just wondering if the Ubuntu Core would be possible to port to ARMv6
[13:46] <mm_> looks like i spoke too soon, the sysinfo says it's ubuntu 11.10(oneiric) gnome 2.32.1 kernel 3.0.0-17 generic.  loading screen says xbuntu though.
[13:46] <Oer> crypted, conversion from 32 to 64 ?
[13:46] <zykotick9> crypted: if you are asking if you can upgrade 32bit to 64bit - no, you can't
[13:47] <astrolite> Walther: ok, don't know
[13:47] <crypted> roger that.  i know as of yet its impossible except by hacking the crap out of ubuntu.  i figured there may be an easier development since canoical is considering a swap to x64 default.
[13:47] <APoulos> mm_, is your login setup to automatic?
[13:47] <astrolite> I would like for wine on 64bit to be fixed for release, or at least in time for diablo 3 *holds thumbs*
[13:48] <compdoc> MrUnagi, you using a 32 bit guest type?
[13:48] <MrUnagi> yes
[13:48] <auronandace> crypted: 64bit has been around for years and is working very well
[13:48] <crypted> auronandace: i know that.  however, the default iso has been 32.
[13:48] <crypted> because not all apps/packages were ready in the prior release, we went with 32 for our church.
[13:48] <APoulos> alright guys, I'm having one hell of a time trying to get this directory backed up without the /videos/ directory
[13:49] <crypted> i'm trying to determine an easier conversion method without flat redoing it all.
[13:49] <crypted> figure i wont even attempt it now
[13:49] <crypted> stick w/ old school
[13:49] <APoulos> this is so far what I've found out: --exclude $HOME/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:49] <APoulos> doesnt work
[13:49] <APoulos> still makes the folder
[13:49] <auronandace> crypted: what apps do you require that are 32bit only?
[13:49] <Oer> crypted, since 11.10 64 bit is multi-arch.
[13:49] <APoulos> so does /home/alex/Videos/ - and ~/Videos/
[13:49] <crypted> good to know about multi-arch.  auronandace: none that i am aware of anymore
[13:50] <APoulos> can someone PULLLLEEEEZZZEEE help me with this?
[13:50] <crypted> the issue would be converting w/o losing settings and data at this point.
[13:50] <crypted> all else is good to go from my reading
[13:50] <blackbear008> - APoulos, , what's your problem?
[13:51] <zykotick9> crypted: a conversion of 32bit to 64bit seems insane to me... can i ask, how much RAM do you have?
[13:51] <APoulos> blackbear008, trying to run rsync to dupe my home directory w/ the exception of my videos folder
[13:51] <crypted> 4-8GB
[13:51] <mm_> i haven't been on IRC in about 20 years, so... how do you want me to send this screenshot?  it's a png btw.
[13:51] <zykotick9> !paste | mm_
[13:52] <sambagirl> 10.10 support has been terminated????
[13:52] <APoulos> blackbear008, this is what I've been able to do: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude $HOME/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:52] <auronandace> crypted: just install the 64bit version, backup what you need to keep (config files)
[13:52] <mm_> thanks.
[13:52] <compdoc> sambagirl, end of life?
[13:52] <crypted> if that'll work, okay.
[13:52] <auronandace> sambagirl: yes
[13:52] <crypted> what just /etc/ and /home/?
[13:52] <sambagirl> something like that but it is still alive on my laptop!
[13:52] <auronandace> !10.10 | sambagirl
[13:52] <crypted> can i do a dpkg dump or anything for easy restore?
[13:53] <APoulos> blackbear008, ive tried the other ones like /home/alex/Videos/ and ~/Videos/
[13:53] <compdoc> sambagirl, only the LTS versions are supported for 3 years
[13:53] <sambagirl> oh ok
[13:53] <auronandace> crypted: what settings do you need to keep? most configs are under the hidden directories under /home/
[13:53] <somethinginteres> does anyone know the package for language checking in LibreOffice for Australian English?
[13:53] <compdoc> the rest get upgraded away
[13:54] <auronandace> compdoc: starting with 12.04 support is 5 years
[13:54] <sambagirl> well compdoc my issue is that these later versions are so different and i don't nor do any of the users here find them friendly at all.  the interfaces are not friendly at all. everyone is used to true functionality and ease of use. no drop down menu options,  this is terrible.
[13:54] <crypted> i know where the config files are that we need.  my next issue is dpkg.  i assume that i can dump and restore the oldl ist upon reinstalling w/ x64?
[13:55] <fidel_> somethinginteres: guess the question isnt really ubuntu-specific - maybe ask in the #libre channel
[13:55] <mm_> ok.  it's up there.  http://imagebin.org/209356
[13:55] <ruman> any one can help to make partition  image  of xubunto, to install other machines...without installation....
[13:55] <sambagirl> it would be so pleasant if ubuntu devs created a classic view option...maybe they have, but i can't locate it.  the new interface is so unfriendly.
[13:55] <somethinginteres> fidel_: sorry mate, was directed here from #libreoffice b/c they couldn't work it out.
[13:55] <Oer> crypted > dpkg –get-selections
[13:55] <crypted> roger that
[13:56] <crypted> i guess a case of beer and toying around is in order now.
[13:56] <Oer> crypted but is it wise, to convert that to 64 bit?
[13:56] <compdoc> sambagirl, many ppl feel that way, but you can get used to it. They are still improving Unity, so it might get better
[13:56] <astrolite> sambagirl: if you want something similar to old gnome as in 10.x, try xfce window manager
[13:56] <crypted> Oer: uncertain.
[13:56] <crypted> thanks @ all.
[13:56] <Oer> have fun
[13:56] <crypted> oh i doubt i will but hey its worth trying
[13:56] <crypted> :D
[13:57] <crypted> can always learn from my upcoming mistakes.
[13:57] <mubeen> hello everyone..
[13:57] <auronandace> crypted: a fresh install is always easier
[13:57] <mm_> HI!!
[13:58] <sambagirl> that is why we stay at 10.10 because it's functional.  it's like going to the cpanel in windows xp and you can modify it to classic view.  just like windows 7 and 8 are so aweful so is vista, because users wants and needs and desires are ignored and the powers that be want to manipulate and force feed us stuff we dont like and yet expect us not to speak up about it?
[13:58] <auronandace> sambagirl: can't live without gnome2 eh?
[13:58] <compdoc> sambagirl, it will still run, but I guess they no longer update it
[13:58] <Baribal> Hi. I just installed 12.04 from scratch and wanted to configure its appearance, but the ccsm package seems to have vanished. Where did it go?
[13:58] <mubeen> Can anyone help me regarding a installation of Ncomputing Software?
[13:58] <ruman> any one can help me make partition image of ubuntu..
[13:58] <sambagirl> i understand. i mean i used hoary as my first ubuntu. i still have boxes of cd's they sent.
[13:59] <usb-help> hi, I suspect a USB flash drive I bought recently has been oversized to 64GB, is there a way to check that on ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[13:59] <c0rnel> ruman, clonezilla?
[13:59] <MrUnagi> mini.iso i see no activity now, how do i know if its installing
[14:00] <sambagirl> it's just my feeling that ubuntu team should stick with what works and not go chasing.
[14:00] <ruman> c0rnel,please let me know is it free
[14:01] <c0rnel> ruman, yes it is free
[14:01] <sambagirl> clonezilla is awesome
[14:01] <auronandace> sambagirl: just so you know ubuntu doesn't support gnome2 anymore because the creators of gnome2 has stopped support
[14:01] <poo> how can i remove a java package that didnt finish installing
[14:02] <poo> says it cant find archive
[14:02] <ruman> ok thanks to both of u..
[14:02] <sambagirl> ohh i didnt know that.
[14:02] <auronandace> !gnome2
[14:02] <sambagirl> well there are others xfce and others
[14:02] <sambagirl> kde is another one
[14:02] <Nach0z> LXDE > xfce :P
[14:02] <sambagirl> i think
[14:02] <Baribal> Also, I've installed and started Eclipse, but it appears neither in the dock nor the task switcher, so once minimized, I seem to be unable to unminimize the window. What happened there?
[14:03] <auronandace> sambagirl: i've never liked gnome2 anyway and have used xfce since 4.2
[14:03] <mubeen> NComputing Linux Terminal Server
[14:03] <mubeen> vSpace Terminal Server
[14:03] <mubeen> This package provides all the necessary drivers and programs to use NComputing's X Series expansion card, L Series and U Series terminals.
[14:03] <MrUnagi> seems impossible to install ubuntu in a virtual machine for me… =/
[14:04] <sambagirl> ok here is a simple question. if i install the latest version of ubuntu will there be the menu options at the top panel?
[14:04] <jasonmsp> hey all.  easy question here but I can't seem to find it in the man pages or on google.  I have an alias cp -i setup and I want to overide the -i from the command line.  -f doesn't seem to be working and I don't see clobber for cp?
[14:04] <mm_> the top panel may not be at the top lol
[14:04] <auronandace> sambagirl: i don't use unity or gnome3 so i can't tell you
[14:04] <sambagirl> i see
[14:04] <sambagirl> i mean like applications places system
[14:04] <auronandace> sambagirl: i stick to xfce, simple and functional
[14:05] <sambagirl> ok
[14:05] <mubeen> "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libswscale0" can u solve this?
[14:06] <sambagirl> i;ll just download the latest and put it into a vm and see if it has acceptable accessibility thanks.
[14:07] <mehran> Hi I'm upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 beta using update-manager
[14:07] <auronandace> sambagirl: i'm planning to give unity a try properly when 12.04 comes out, but i expect i'll come back to xfce
[14:07] <mm_> mubeen:  This is the video scaling library from the ffmpeg project. This package contains a Debian-specific version of the libswscale shared object that should only be used by Debian packages.
[14:08] <usb-help> any help on my usb problem would be appreciated, thanks
[14:09] <mubeen> How can I use the Ncomputing Software in Linux Mint 12?
[14:10] <aLBa^> how large do you believe it is usb-help ?
[14:10] <codelurker> how do you add workspaces and change to an all horizontal workspace layout in 12.04? [no one answering in ubuntu+1]
[14:10] <auronandace> !mint | mubee
[14:11] <niteria> what's the best way to help ubuntu release a new version of package?
[14:12] <niteria> there's a package that is slightly outdated
[14:13] <auronandace> !latest | niteria
[14:13] <mm_> codelurker, right click the panel, choose panel, choose panel preferences.  you can add workspaces there.
[14:14] <ZeRoKoL> e
 I think the disk is supposed to be about 8GB, but it was advertised at 64GB and thats how much is shown in properties.
[14:15] <mm_> any ideas how to fix the rogue panel across my desktop?
[14:16] <codelurker> right clicking panel doesn't bring up anything :(
[14:16] <sambagirl> auronandace let me look at ti first and see if it works for me brb
[14:16] <aLBa^> so you tried putting something on that was less than 8gb and then added a gb extra? thats the only test there is, I suppose
[14:16] <Sidewinder> usb-help, 64G to 8G, now, that's more than a significant jump.
[14:17] <mm_> code:  restart??
 I can't even copy a few megabytes to it, because its extremely slow, at 10 to 50kb/s.
[14:19] <usb-help> I've even tried formatting the disk, which always fails.
[14:19] <magma> hi
[14:20] <magma> how can I check the last 3 logins on my system?
[14:20] <magma> the date and time
[14:20] <jrharshath> @magma use "finger"
[14:20] <codelurker> mm_: system is fine - fresh install of 12.04/patched.  just cant find workspace options anywhere
[14:20] <escott> !precise | codelurker
[14:20] <magma> jrharshath, it just says the last
[14:21] <codelurker> escott: I know, but no answers in ubuntu+1
[14:23] <jrharshath> try "last"
[14:25] <blackbear008> ?
[14:26] <SirSpam> How do I use an absolute DNS search path so Linux doesn't automatically tack on a.domain.com to certain queries?
[14:28] <SirSpam> I've tried adding "search ." to my /etc/resolv.conf but that didn't work and "host localhost" kept trying to resolve "localhost.."
[14:28] <soreau> SirSpam: What do you have set for nameserver? try an ip like 8.8.8.8?
[14:30] <SirSpam> I'm using "nameserver 168.144.1.130" When I tried that 8.8.8.8, everything broke down. Linux apparently ignored my /etc/hosts file so resolving localhost didn't work which meant my entire mail server broke down.
[14:34] <mm_> is it possible to reinstall xfce-4 panel to fix what's wrong with the panel through the middle of my desktop?
[14:35] <auronandace> mm_: through the middle?
[14:36] <mm_> yes.  booted up this morning and the panel that is set to be horizonal at the top, is right through the middle of my desktop.
[14:36] <auronandace> mm_: what does the panel settings show?
[14:36] <mm_> it has been suggested that i may have d/l'd something that is interferring with it.
[14:36] <mm_> the panel setting show where i left them when i logged off last night.
[14:37] <auronandace> mm_: can you unlock and move the panel?
[14:37] <mm_> which was horizontal, at the top.  i have since moved it over to vertical to get it out of the way.
[14:37] <mm_> i've tried :(
[14:37] <mm_> there's a screen cap though.  if'n you wanna see
[14:37] <auronandace> mm_: yay, screenshot
[14:38] <mm_> hang on, i might have to take another.   can i have the url again?
[14:39] <auronandace> mm_: imagebin.org
[14:39] <mm_> tnx
[14:40] <auronandace> mm_: what was it you downloaded that someone suggested affect it?
[14:42] <mm_> i just installed xubuntu 2 daze ago, i've been tweeking ever since...
[14:42] <sambagirl> ok i installed 12.04 and it looks very pretty however i don't see those options at the top meaning applications places system is there anyway i can add that to the desktop panel?
[14:42] <beto> nas
[14:42] <auronandace> mm_: tweaking how?
[14:42] <sambagirl> the system layout reminds me of osx :D
[14:43] <mm_> auronandance:  http://imagebin.org/209356
[14:44] <mm_> tried a couple different audio players, d/l'd vlc, a few games, messed with browers, settled on iron
[14:44] <auronandace> mm_: grab it at the left and drag it to the top
[14:44] <auronandace> mm_: that panel isn't locked
[14:45] <mm_> no, i unlocked it to try to move it.
[14:45] <mm_> everytime i tried the drag/drop it "dropped" a blue folder, but nothing ever changed.
[14:45] <delinquentme> hey all .. is there a way for me to "save state" in Gedit?
[14:45] <delinquentme> say I've got a number of files I want to edit open
[14:45] <mm_> that worked though.  probably just to make me look like a retard lol  i've locked it at the top again.
[14:46] <delinquentme> and I'd love to open them all back up at once
[14:46] <delinquentme> is this possible?
[14:46] <auronandace> mm_: you got two screens?
[14:46] <mm_> at the moment.  i've been reading up on extended desktop, but i haven't tried anything yet.
[14:47] <mm_> laptop and either a monitor or the 42" vizio, vga cable.
[14:47] <fishcooker> which one is better and stable for desktop of developing matter; ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 ?
[14:47] <Thunder_bolt> exit
[14:47] <Thunder_bolt> #exit
[14:47] <area51pilot> sambagirl: hit the Win key
[14:47] <fishcooker> don't say 12.04.. it is in beta release now
[14:48] <mm_> my resolution is all screwy too.  the laptop screen is too long and i'm using a monitor at the moment, and the display is too short.  then the panel went rogue.
[14:48] <area51pilot> fishcooker ... for a few more hours  :P
[14:48] <area51pilot> nmnd
[14:48] <c_smith> !time UTC-8
[14:49] <area51pilot> ... 2 days and a few hrs :P
[14:49] <mm_> xbuntu recognizes the type of laptop and the monitor/tv.  not sure what's going on there.  probably a driver issue.  a driver that's long been out of circulation i'm guessing.
[14:49] <auronandace> fishcooker: 11.04 will reach eol before 11.10
[14:49] <neurotech> test
[14:49] <auronandace> fishcooker: also 12.04 will be released thursday
[14:49] <neurotech> test
[14:49] <neurotech> sorry one more
[14:49] <fishcooker> counting down area51pilot
[14:49] <auronandace> !test | neurotech
[14:49] <c_smith> neurotech, what's with the tests?
[14:49] <neurotech> sorry all done :D
[14:50] <fishcooker> that's cool auronandace.. i've tried it
[14:50] <c_smith> neurotech, Just  curious, but what are you testing?
[14:50] <fishcooker> PP  c_smith
[14:50] <fishcooker> :p
[14:50] <area51pilot> fishcooker ... kinda the release is 2 days after my bday. Benn running beta for a few months though  ;)
[14:51] <neurotech> my "own color" text
[14:51] <auronandace> neurotech: next time use #test
[14:51] <sliptonic> exit
[14:51] <neurotech>  cheerz
[14:52] <kulhas> hello, I have apache running on port 80 and tomcat 8080, outside I can only acess to port 80 I need to have apache serving php and tomcat serving a war.  I try this http://dominikdorn.com/2010/04/tomcat-glassfish-jetty-port-80-iptables-nat/ but its not working.
[14:52] <area51pilot> join ubuntu+1
[14:56] <minimec_> kulhas: 'sudo ufw allow 8080' could work --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[14:57] <trevjs> Ubuntu doesn't recognize the touchpad on my laptop, this is probably a kernel problem.  Is there a way I can disable the touchpad?
[14:59] <MarcN> anyone having problems with synergy? synergyc on Precise segfaults on keyboard input.  I'm running synergys on Oneiric. 100% of the time.
[14:59] <MarcN> mouse input works fine...
[15:02] <bkc_> MarcN: did you have any problems with synergyc on Oneiric?
[15:02] <MarcN> bkc_: last I used synergy it was between two Oneiric.  Since them I've upgraded the client to precise. turning on debug isn't helpful.
[15:03] <bkc_> MarcN: try swaping them, so you runt the server on the client and w.w.
[15:04] <khmerog> hii
[15:05] <usb-help> does 12.04 have support for exfat?
[15:05] <khmerog> when i first installed ubuntu i had the option to change how my window (exit, minimize, full screen) look like
[15:05] <khmerog> and to change from ubuntu unity or ubunutu classic
[15:05] <khmerog> now i dont have that option..how come?
[15:05] <LambdaDusk> anyone knowing the codecs necessary to get the audio from an mkv video... it is encoded with ac3, it seems
[15:06] <bkc_> khmerog: system settings?
[15:06] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: what player are you using?
[15:07] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: I am using ffmpeg for the task
[15:07] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: They play fine in vlc and totem
[15:07] <bkc_> so, you want to extract the ac3-stream from a mkv-file?
[15:08] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: And make it an mp3 for my player
[15:08] <LambdaDusk> or ogg, I am not choosy
[15:09] <LambdaDusk> "ffmpeg -i $f -f mp3 -y -ab 192000 -vn audio/`basename $f .mkv`.mp3" is the command I used
[15:09] <bkc_> you can use mkvextract to extract the ac3-stream :)
[15:09] <LambdaDusk> oh
[15:09] <khmerog> bkc_ i checked every settings and it is not there anymore
[15:09] <khmerog> bkc_ are u using ubuntu unity UI or the classic UI?
[15:10] <bkc_> khmerog: kde
[15:10] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: then use ffmpeg to convert from ac3 to ogg/mp3
[15:10] <khmerog> hmm can u make your own taskbar/panes?
[15:10] <tero> um, should a modern ubuntu work on a really old netbook?(atom 1.6 ghz 1gb ram) ?
[15:10] <beto> no really
[15:11] <beto> is to slow
[15:11] <bkc_> no it's not :/
[15:11] <auronandace> !lubuntu | tero
[15:12] <bkc_> beto: I run kubuntu on 900MHz, 2GB ram... works just fine :)
[15:13] <afuentes> is there a way to disable the countdown window on acpi shutdown signal?
[15:13] <belgianguy> is there a dutch ubuntu chan?
[15:13] <belgianguy> for dutch lang corrections
[15:13] <auronandace> !dutch
[15:13] <belgianguy> thx
[15:15] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Sorry, that did not work. The codec is the problem, not the container: "Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height"
[15:16] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: have you specified that you're reading from ac3?
[15:16] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Uh, no... how?
[15:17] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i input_filename.mpg -f avi -vcodec copy -acodec libmp3lame -ar 44100 -ab 128k -ac 2 file_output.avi
[15:17] <bkc_> wait
[15:17] <bkc_> wrong line ^^
[15:17]  * LambdaDusk waits
[15:18] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i audio.ac3 -acodec libmp3lame audio.mp3
[15:18] <bkc_> ffmpeg -i audio.ac3 -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg
[15:18] <bkc_> thar
[15:18] <dik> |ciao
[15:18] <dik> |list
[15:19] <Sidewinder> At least the nick is appropriate.
[15:19] <LambdaDusk> bkc_: Nope still: "Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height"
[15:20] <auronandace> what is with all these people doing !list ?
[15:20] <bkc_> auronandace: they think it's a dc-hub ^^
[15:20] <auronandace> bkc_: dc-hub?
[15:21] <bkc_> LambdaDusk: have you successfully extracted the ac3-stream from the mkv?
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> yes
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> it plays in totem and rhythmbox
[15:21] <LambdaDusk> and correctly
[15:21] <bkc_> auronandace: old way of sharing warez :/
[15:21] <auronandace> bkc_: oh, thanks for the info
[15:22] <bkc_> dik: this isn't a dc-hub :/
[15:24] <Sidewinder> !list
[15:26] <MrUnagi> ubuntu minimal takes forever to install =/
[15:29] <iceroot> MrUnagi: bad connection?
[15:31] <J11> somehow when a user logs in on a machine the internet won't work, until I su to myself in a terminal and use ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient eth0. But I rememebr setting the share this connection with other users in the network management app
[15:31] <MrUnagi> connection?
[15:31] <bkc_> MrUnagi: internet-connection
[15:32] <MrUnagi> oh……doubtful, but i don't know…..because theres nothing on screen
[15:32] <bkc_> MrUnagi: how old is the computer?
[15:32] <MrUnagi> its purple with a white line at the bottom
[15:32] <MrUnagi> couple of years i suppose
[15:32] <MrUnagi> I'm not near it so i don't really know
[15:33] <MrUnagi> or at least the host is……I'm currently installing into vm
[15:33] <bkc_> ooh... vm's are usually not that fast :/
[15:34] <MrUnagi> yea but……
[15:34] <MrUnagi> its a minimal install lol
[15:35] <afuentes> is there a way to disable the countdown window on acpi shutdown signal?
[15:35] <MrUnagi> afuentes sudo shutdown -h now?
[15:35] <iceroot> MrUnagi: minimal install = everything downloaeded from the net
[15:36] <MrUnagi> iceroot: with no progress bar?
[15:36] <J11> strange I only see the loopback in /etc/network/interfaces. Is the way the network manager works different?
[15:36] <afuentes> MrUnagi, its a virtual machine, i can send ubuntu an acpi shutdown signal, but it shows an anoying 60 secs message :/
[15:36] <MrUnagi> J11: sounds right
[15:36] <iceroot> MrUnagi: there is a progress bar if something is happening
[15:36] <MrUnagi> not for me
[15:36] <iceroot> MrUnagi: again, bad connection?
[15:37] <MrUnagi> for a progress bar?
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: what is the speed of your connection?
[15:37] <MrUnagi> speediest = 3mbps down
[15:37] <MrUnagi> speedtest
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: that is slow for a netinstall with a complete desktop
[15:37] <jwtiyar> i cant install apache2 , give this http://paste.ubuntu.com/942678/
[15:37] <MrUnagi> whaaaat?
[15:37] <iceroot> MrUnagi: guess it will take 1-2 hours until everything is downloaded
[15:37] <bkc_> iceroot: minimal install...
[15:37] <MrUnagi> thats MB download not line speed
[15:38] <iceroot> bkc_: minimal install is a medium and does not mean only shell
[15:38] <iceroot> bkc_: you can select there kde, gnome, unity and so on
[15:38] <jwtiyar> i cant install apache2 , give this http://paste.ubuntu.com/942678/
[15:38] <iceroot> MrUnagi: that is mbit/s
[15:39] <MrUnagi> i didn't select any of those
[15:39] <MrUnagi> no….its MBs
[15:39] <iceroot> jwtiyar: did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[15:39] <iceroot> MrUnagi: then say 3MByte/s
[15:39] <sambagirl> does compiz work in 12.04?
[15:39] <iceroot> sambagirl: yes, #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <sambagirl> how can i add like a different desktop to 12.04? is it possible to add potions to the panels?
[15:40] <iceroot> MrUnagi: maybe you can switch to tty2 (ctrl + alt + f2) and you can do some debug on top/ps
[15:40] <iceroot> sambagirl: 12.04 is not supported here, please join #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <sambagirl> well 10.10 isnt supported...so what is supported in here?
[15:40] <iceroot> sambagirl: stable releases which are not EOL
[15:41] <iceroot> sambagirl: 8.04 server, 10.04, 11.04, 11.10
[15:45] <nannes> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2168086/canonical-linux-kernel
[15:45] <nannes> why? why??? why this kind of behavior???
[15:46] <sipior> nannes: this is not the place to vent.
[15:46] <iceroot> nannes: i dont see a problem with that and its off topic here
[15:46] <nannes> which is the right place
[15:46] <sipior> nannes: #ubuntu-offtopic, or /dev/null.
[15:46] <nannes> lol I'll try the first
[15:47] <pietro10> Hi. I have a .deb for libpng 1.5 that I need to install in order to use some software. How do I install it over the system libpng 1.2? Thanks.
[15:48] <iceroot> pietro10: i dont know if it is a good idea
[15:49] <iceroot> pietro10: but the method is "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[15:49] <pietro10> ok
[15:50] <iceroot> pietro10: but you can get dependency issues
[15:50] <pietro10> well if it's not a good idea to install the one (from debian.org), wha tis the best way to install libpng 1.5 on ubuntu?
[15:50] <iceroot> pietro10: 1. never mix packages from debian and ubuntu. ubuntu is not debian
[15:51] <iceroot> !info libpng3
[15:51] <pietro10> right, though I'm not getting any response for libpng 1.5 ubuntu on google
[15:51] <pietro10> why is ubuntu still on 1.2
[15:51] <iceroot> pietro10: what debian-release has 1.5?
[15:52] <pietro10> ...experimental
[15:52] <pietro10> that probalby explains it
[15:52] <J11> when do connections set in the network manager become loaded?
[15:53] <luffha> hi all
[15:53] <iceroot> pietro10: and which software needs 1.5?
[15:53] <luffha> any idea on this, guys? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10283411/php-broken-after-upgrading-to-php-5-4
[15:54] <iceroot> luffha: #ubuntu+1
[15:54] <iceroot> !info php5 precise
[15:54] <pietro10> iceroot: a specialized image converter being written by someone else I'mw aiting for them to get on IRC to ask them about it
[15:55] <iceroot> pietro10: i dont think that software will have much fun because all the big distros are not using 1.5 in stable releases in the next time
[15:55] <benaiah> a
[15:55] <iceroot> luffha: and why the hell are you ising lucid ppa packages on precise
[15:56] <iceroot> luffha: there is only one thing that can happen on such tasks, broken dependencies
[15:56] <benaiah> fuck isnt there anything so geeky
[15:56] <oCean> benaiah: control your language here, please
[15:56] <bazhang> benaiah, no cursing here
[15:56] <iceroot> !language | benaiah
[15:57] <benaiah> SUCK MY DICK AND THEN USE A SHARP METAL DILDO UP YOUR ASS
[16:04] <set_killer> hi guis, i just tryed to upgrade to 12.04 and then i got this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/986374
[16:04] <RexHaviK> i am seeing a one minute diff between two machines, this one gets its time from a time server, the other may not, what would i need to run as root that would keep it on internet time? ntpd?
[16:05] <set_killer> should I 'suDO' apt-get install -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 python
[16:05] <set_killer> ????
[16:05] <oCean> set_killer: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[16:06] <sanguisdex> where can I read up in Turing off password authentication for ssh connections?
[16:06] <set_killer> thanks oCean :]
[16:07] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:07] <yeats> sanguisdex: this is probably a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:08] <AdvoWork> anyone know how to use vim with regular expressions? trying to run foo(.*bar)@! somehow :S
[16:08] <Graeleight> i'm trying to install the package boot-repair but it seems to be missing. I added the repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair and updated apt-get but the package is still not found. Are there any other easy ways to fix my fubared GRUB2 ?
[16:09] <f11f12> nualtilus keeps opening my usb stick when I pug it in, although I've got a custom rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ which starts with 90-...
[16:10] <pietro10> AdvoWork: #vim ?
[16:10] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:10] <GaryDev> would this be the correct place to ask about apache2 on ubuntu 10 lts? :)
[16:12] <sanguisdex> yeats I have set PasswordAuthentication to no and both reloaded and restated ssh via service, but I am still able to loging with a password
[16:13] <sanguisdex> whater else do  I need to change?
[16:13] <J11> Should I just put eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces so I have internet on boot no matter which user logs in?
[16:14] <Baribal> Hi. I'm afraid that this is more of a rhetorical question, but anyways: Is there a cell phone on which Ubuntu can run natively?
[16:15] <bazhang> Baribal, try #ubuntu-phone  , as of now, thats a no
[16:15] <Haffe> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu 12.04, and I am having some problems. 1) I have a Radeon HD7750, I have installed fglrx from jockey-gtk, yet I get an AMD unsupported hardware watermark. 2) I have an audigy 2, but I have no sound. I try to run alsamixer to unmute everything, but alsa gives me an error that mixer can't be opened.
[16:15] <J11> or would that give problems with the network manager? Should I put the ifupdown into managed=true in network manger's config?
[16:15] <bazhang> Haffe, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:20] <WeThePeople> does anybody know of a anonymous ftp software or website?
[16:21] <GaryDev> Using 10 LTS, created a new VirtualHost file in apache2 following directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html .. directories created, new site enabled, apache restarted... but the new site when accessed, goes to the current default site. Any suggestions? (both the default site and new site had ServerName directive added)
[16:22] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm looking for a bit of help. I've got a user profile which I cannot log into. It seems that after I enter my password it just flashes both of the screens then take me back to the login manager. I'm on the guest profile currently and dont know where to start.
[16:22] <Baribal> WeThePeople, you mean a server/service/website that anonymizes your connection? There are a few for-pay services out there; of course they'll then have your billing information.
[16:23] <Baribal> EsoRottica, maybe a look into /var/log/*dm/*.log would be a good start?
[16:23] <Baribal> (That'd be /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log for me)
[16:23] <yzhd> When I put the screen on my laptop, it wont suspend + the suspend option is missing in settings. Any fix for this? I couldn't find any fix for it on the web.. + suspend worked the first two weeks after installing ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciate.
[16:24] <Ping86> How I can sniff the traffic on a port on my local machine?
[16:24] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Permission Denied, will i need to Ctrl+alt+f1, login, view?
[16:27] <Baribal> EsoRottica, right, you need superuser rights... Yes, if you can handle the old consoles, go for it. :)
[16:27] <GaryDev> guess I will try asking later..
[16:27] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Not entirely... I'm creating a new admin account from which to work from :)
[16:27] <EsoRottica> back soon.
[16:27] <Baribal> Even better. :)
[16:31] <jsebean> Hey all, How do I use date command to display a time in a certain timezone. I run: date +%r but it shows it in universal time?
[16:33] <trism> jsebean: it is right on the manpage, TZ='America/Los_Angeles' date
[16:33] <jsebean> trism: ??
[16:33] <Mkaysi> OR you might want to see tzwatch.
[16:33] <Pl3nar1us> hello all
[16:35] <trism> jsebean: man date; then look at the Examples section at the end
[16:35] <EsoRottica> Baribal, is it okay to clear this file, attempt to login check new messages?
[16:36] <matrixnyc> hello
[16:36] <LiNuX`sup> is 12 out of beta?
[16:36] <Walther> What is the name of the screenshot utility? My kb doesn't have printscr key and unity dash isn't working
[16:36] <Walther> i.e. how do I lauch the screenshot utility from cli?
[16:36] <EsoRottica> screenshot
[16:36] <trism> LiNuX`sup: not until the 26th
[16:37] <trism> Walther: gnome-screenshot by default
[16:37] <Haffe> Walther: scrot is one such utility.
[16:37] <mbeierl> How to I tell the resolver to use port 55 instead of port 53 for DNS lookups?  I need to modify /etc/resolv.conf, but how to specify the port for the nameserver there?
[16:40] <bepebe> hello, my scrolling seems to be very fast in all aspects of windows that can scroll. I have a tweak for Firefox that slows it down, but browsing folders, or other applications results in very erratic scrolling if the slightest move on the scroll wheel
[16:43] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Do you dual boot to and from Windows?
[16:43] <bepebe> no Fishman12a, but it has worked fine in Windows before
[16:43] <mcc> is there a way, in Ubuntu, to query the system and find out what version of a particular package I have installed?
[16:44] <mcc> like, libogg0. i want to know if the version i have approximately corresponds to 1.2.0 from the website or 1.2.1 or what
[16:44] <trism> mcc: apt-cache policy packagename;
[16:44] <Fishman12a> bepebe: I have a MS wireless mouse. What I have to do is unplug it and plug back in after booting from Win to Lin. Then it is ok.
[16:45] <dniMretsaM> mcc: I think this might do it: apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>
[16:45] <bepebe> Fishman12a, I will give that a try, but I only have Linux on this HDD
[16:45] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Good luck. It is the only thing that works for me
[16:45] <wylde> mcc: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[16:45] <bepebe> Fishman12a, that seems to of worked, but do I have to that at every boot?
[16:46] <bepebe> mine too is ms wireless one ...
[16:46] <Fishman12a> bepebe: Sorry to say 'probably'. I know I do and know of no solution except this way.
[16:46] <bepebe> Fishman12a, OK, thanks for your help.
[16:46] <Fishman12a> :)
[16:46] <bucaneiro> what is the name of a programming language that starts with N ?
[16:46] <robin_debspace> Hey there! Does anyone in here know about Ubuntu accessibility with Orca?
[16:47] <dniMretsaM> oh yeah, policy. not showpkg. my bad
[16:47] <EsoRottica> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages#N
[16:48] <noobtack> hey guys, im having some trouble here, logs -> http://bit.ly/HWgsXU
[16:48] <aaas> anyone got a intel onboard g31 graphics working (with more resolutions than 3)?  It seems to default to the 'vesa' driver
[16:49] <noobtack> dammit, wrong link. http://pastie.org/3840068
[16:51] <robin_debspace> Basically, I need to install Ubuntu on a new system, but can't see the screen as I'm blind. So, what I need are the steps to navigate to the accessibility menu of the installer so that I can enable Orca.
[16:52] <EsoRottica> bepebe, Fishman12a, check out http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/mouse.4.html
[16:52] <EsoRottica> robin_debspace, are you trying with a livecd, and at the login screen?
[16:53] <Fishman12a> OK
[16:53] <trism> robin_debspace: this may help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Starting_Orca_on_the_Live_CD
[16:54] <EsoRottica> robin_debspace, also, it would appear you may be able to push control and S at the same time
[16:54] <Maksim> Кто играет в кс
[16:54] <wylde> !ru | Maksim
[16:55] <Fishman12a> EsoRottica: Thanks. I bookmarked that and will try it soon :)
[16:55] <Maksim> who plays a mix to whom is necessary 1
[16:57] <robin_debspace> trism: Ah, thanks so much for digging this up for me! Also thanks to the others who helped right now… Yes, this probably is what I need. What I want to do is to install a fresh Ubuntu in a virtual machine, and I knew Ubuntu includes Orca as the screen reader and was wondering how to get this to work… But this should help a whole lot, thanks :-)
[17:00] <mcc> trism: that worked great, thanks so much!
[17:01] <cipols> titanic
[17:01] <mcc> dniMretsaM / wylde: thanks also
[17:02] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm having some problems logging into one of my user profiles, The screen blanked during trying to change which monitors were plugged in and would not come back on. I powered down the computer. Now, once I login, it attempts to go intop ubuntu, but returns bck to to password prompt, other users work fine.
[17:02] <Baribal> EsoRottica, what did lightdm.log say?
[17:03] <EsoRottica> Baribal, I did not see anything that looked promising, Is it okay to blank the log and attempt logging in again?
[17:03] <Baribal> AFAIK yes, but blanking it should be unneccessary.
[17:04] <EsoRottica> Pastie?
[17:04] <EsoRottica> or pastebin*
[17:04] <Baribal> One pf those, sure.
[17:05] <EsoRottica> http://pastebin.com/m393diCc
[17:08] <gebbione> anyone uses openshot here? when i export a video i dont get the audio working
[17:08] <EsoRottica> Baribal, http://pastebin.com/m393diCc
[17:11] <EsoRottica> Baribal, Important to note, the username is blackbeard.
[17:11] <Baribal> EsoRottica, it looks like you get logged in, but then X is killed. That looks weird to me right now, I'll crosscheck with my own logs.
[17:11] <Baribal> EsoRottica, yes, I saw. :)
[17:12] <spillo> Caio
[17:12] <EsoRottica> Baribal, yeah it looked like there was an X config error, but I'm unaware of where single user config is?
[17:12] <spillo> Ciao! qualche assistenza italiana?
[17:12] <Baribal> spillo, #ubuntu-it AFAIK
[17:12] <bazhang> spillo, #ubuntu-it
[17:14] <JHON> someone is brazil?
[17:14] <EsoRottica> Jhon, #ubuntu-br
[17:14] <spillo> sono su ubuntu.it?
[17:15] <theadmin> spillo: /join #ubuntu-it
[17:15] <NeXuiZ> hay all
[17:15] <spillo> got it...can i try in english anyway?
[17:16] <NeXuiZ> есть русские?
[17:16] <EsoRottica> of course.
[17:16] <spillo> if yes, how? ther is pvt way?
[17:16] <EsoRottica> yes, /msg username
[17:16] <mneptok> !ru | NeXuiZ
[17:16] <Baribal> EsoRottica, I'm afraid I'm completely out of my waters.
[17:16] <NeXuiZ> спс
[17:16] <bepebe> Hello, I am trying to delete folders from a NTFS permission, and I am getting a "Unable to find or create wastebasket directory" error - http://i40.tinypic.com/2637evp.png can anybody help ?
[17:17] <Lint> you should not redirect people to national channels, at it is nearly impossible to receive help there
[17:17] <EsoRottica> Baribal, thats unfortunate ><
[17:17] <erase_> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing Rails 3.X on Ubuntu 12.04. Is there a sources.list line, or something like that since it only install 2.3?
[17:18] <theadmin> !precise | erase_
[17:18] <Pici> Lint: Many of our international channels are active. And anyway, we can't help here either if we don't speak their language.
[17:20] <thebilgerat> I'm trying to find where Ubuntu stores the global config files for vim.  Edits to the colorscheme in ~/.vimrc do not affect vim
[17:20] <thebilgerat> found debian-vim in the /usr/share/, but I don't see a colorscheme line in that file
[17:21] <thebilgerat> this is vim in a terminal only - my .vimrc does alter the color of vim-gnome
[17:22] <tscanlon> mornin if anyone has a free minute I'm having issues configuring smokeping + apache, i'm getting 403's for the images
[17:23] <theadmin> thebilgerat: /etc/vimrc I'd suppose?
[17:24] <theadmin> thebilgerat: Nevertheless, ~/.vimrc is supposed to override that
[17:24] <MrUnagi> how long is ubuntu suppose to hang at stopping system V run level compatibility
[17:24] <thebilgerat> one would think!  Is it possible that the terminal colorscheme is overriding vims?
[17:25] <jrib> thebilgerat: umm, are you using vim-tiny?
[17:25] <thebilgerat> let me check
[17:25] <autofsckk> hello, i want to make a local mirror so we can handle a lot of installs locally in a lan
[17:25] <theadmin> thebilgerat: Yeah, that actually may be a problem since that's what Ubuntu comes with, so make sure you're using a right package xD
[17:26] <thebilgerat> why yes it is vim tiny
[17:26] <thebilgerat> I take it my vim should not be tiny
[17:26] <jrib> thebilgerat: real vim user would not want that, no :)
[17:26] <jrib> thebilgerat: sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[17:27] <jrib> thebilgerat: (presumably you've installed the vim-gnome package already)
[17:27] <thebilgerat> yes
[17:27] <theadmin> autofsckk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/Scripts -- some of these may be useful.
[17:27] <theadmin> jrib: What is vim-gnome? Is that how they called gvim? :/
[17:27] <theadmin> !info vim-gnome
[17:28] <theadmin> ...peculiar.
[17:28] <blitz__> Hi everyone I am interested in hosting a Ubuntu 12.04 launch party in my city(Chandigarh,India). Can someone tell me where I can get details on this ?
[17:28] <jrib> theadmin: sort of.  vim-gnome interacts with gnome nicely (don't ask me how; my guess is with session stuff), but there's also just vim-gtk.  Both provide a gui vim
[17:28] <Artemis3> autofsckk, i recommend this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apt-cacher-ng-http-download-proxy-for-software-packages.html
[17:28] <thebilgerat> update-alternatives gives me vim.gnome in auto or manual or vim.basic in manual
[17:28] <jrib> erm
[17:28] <jrib> thebilgerat: sort of.  vim-gnome interacts with gnome nicely (don't ask me how; my guess is with session stuff), but there's also just vim-gtk.  Both provide a gui vim
[17:28] <jrib> thebilgerat: which one has the star next to it on the lfet?
[17:29] <EsoRottica_> ghost EsoRottica
[17:29] <autofsckk> theadmin Artemis3 ok thanks, ill take a look a those links
[17:29] <mneptok> blitz__: i suspect the people in #ubuntu-in would know better.
[17:29] <thebilgerat> vim.gnome auto mode
[17:29] <jrib> thebilgerat: hmm.  What made you say earlier that the vim you were using was tiny?
[17:29] <blitz__> ok I'll check it out.
[17:29] <thebilgerat> it is installed through synaptic
[17:29] <any-key> I'm running ubuntu on a beagleboard, and it's not guaranteed to have a network connection every time it boots...unfortunately when no NIC is connected everything hangs for two minutes on "waiting for network configuration"
[17:30] <any-key> is there any way to make it give up immediately rather than hanging?
[17:30] <jrib> thebilgerat: run "vim.gnome" in a terminal.  Does your colorscheme get applied properly then?
[17:30] <yellabs-r2> is there some one here who uses an asrock ion in combination with ubuntu ?
[17:30] <Somelauw> Hi, I am using ubuntu 11.10 and I was wondering how to install netbeans 7.1. The software centre only has version 6.9
[17:30] <EsoRottica_> how do i ghost? ><
[17:31] <yellabs-r2> something like this : Asrock Atom D525
[17:31] <bazhang> EsoRottica_, release, twice
[17:31] <thebilgerat> jrib: no its the same
[17:31] <theadmin> EsoRottica_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[17:32] <minimec> Somelauw: Just take the version on netbeans.org, make the file executable and run it... http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
[17:33] <tscanlon> mornin if anyone has a free minute I'm having issues configuring smokeping + apache, i'm getting 403's for the images
[17:33] <Somelauw> minimec: Won't that give problems when doing a dist-upgrade?
[17:33] <dniMretsaM> Somelauw: there is a PPA that has version 7.0.1. If you wan't 7.1.x, you'll probably have to compile
[17:33] <jrib> thebilgerat: how are you setting the colorscheem?
[17:33] <any-key> I suppose if I got rid of the interface configuration for eth0 it would work skip that part of the boot process, but then I'd lose the ability to use eth0 when I needed it
[17:33] <Gotestra> Hello anyone
[17:33] <Gotestra> Um
[17:33] <Gotestra> Newb here.
[17:33] <minimec> Somelauw: No, because it doesn't come as *.deb file.
[17:33] <Gotestra> Just starting out with Ubuntu, Linux in fact.
[17:34] <Gotestra> So, somebody care to help me out
[17:34] <thebilgerat> jrib: I set "colorscheme <foo>" in my local .vimrc
[17:34] <theadmin> Gotestra: 1) Don't use Enter as punctuation, 2) Ask your question right away, 3) General chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <dniMretsaM> It might be an executable, not source (no compiling). Not sure.
[17:34] <Gotestra> Ah
[17:34] <theadmin> Gotestra: Support is here, though.
[17:34] <Flurick> Hello
[17:34] <Gotestra> Thank you. I wont use Enter as a punctuation, call it a bad habit.
[17:34] <Gotestra> Anyway, I have a lot of questions.
[17:34] <jrib> thebilgerat: once you've started vim, does :colorscheme <foo>  change the colorscheme?
[17:34] <Gotestra> Firstly, why isn't right click working?
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: Where exactly?
[17:35] <Gotestra> My laptop.
[17:35] <thebilgerat> jrib: it does
[17:35] <Gotestra> HP laptop
[17:35] <Gotestra> Synaptics Trackpad
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: I mean uh, does it not work in all apps or specific areas?
[17:35] <jrib> thebilgerat: are you sure your vimrc does not change the color again later?
[17:35] <Gotestra> yeah.
[17:35] <minimec> Somelauw: I did that on my 11.10 install and upgraded to 12.04 just two days ago. No problem. You can even choose to install it locally in your /home/yourname directory. Installation suth 'sudo' will put it in /opt I think and make it acessable for all user.
[17:35] <theadmin> Gotestra: That wasn't a yes-no question
[17:36] <theadmin> !who | Gotestra
[17:36] <MrUnagi> i can't figure out why i can't get ubuntu installed and running in virtualbox
[17:36] <Somelauw> minimec: What version of netbeans does ubuntu 12.4 have?
[17:36] <Gotestra> Oh
[17:36] <celthunder> MrUnagi: whats the problem
[17:36] <Gotestra> Okay :)
[17:36] <Gotestra> theadmin
[17:36] <minimec> Somelauw: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=netbeans&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[17:36] <thebilgerat> jrib: Actually, now I'm not sure
[17:36] <Gotestra> Its not working in any app.
[17:36] <MrUnagi> celthunder: desktop would crash, alternate installed but hangs on boot
[17:36] <theadmin> MrUnagi: Ubuntu's new "Unity" interface requires 3D acceleration, which requires Virtualbox guest additions. Install those from the CLI, then the desktop will run properly.
[17:37] <Gotestra> Its as if there is no right click button.
[17:37] <MrUnagi> theadmin: i don't even need desktop
[17:37] <theadmin> Gotestra: I see, sounds like something to do with the trackpad
[17:37] <celthunder> MrUnagi: where did it hang on boot
[17:37] <theadmin> MrUnagi: Try the minimal/server CD then?
[17:37] <thebilgerat> I have the same file open in gvim and vim.  if i set "colorscheme elflord" in both, they are NOT the same colorscheme
[17:37] <Gotestra> No, it works fine with Windows 7.
[17:37] <wylde> !synaptics | Gotestra: this link will have some information that should help
[17:37] <MrUnagi> theadmin was the minimal cd
[17:37] <MrUnagi> celthunder: stopping system v runlevel
[17:37] <Gotestra> Okay, I'm checking it.
[17:37] <any-key> thebilgerat: what are the differences?
[17:38] <jrib> thebilgerat: colorschemes set different colors depending on whether you're in vim or gvim
[17:38] <celthunder> MrUnagi: so you cant even get to init 1?
[17:38] <any-key> thebilgerat: keep in mind your terminal color pallette is not what gvim is using
[17:38] <theadmin> Gotestra: There might be restricted drivers available for your hardware, check it
[17:38] <MrUnagi> celthunder: just hangs
[17:38] <MrUnagi> no prompt
[17:38] <jrib> thebilgerat: I think a lot of the default vim colorschemes assume only something like 8 or 16 colors in terminal
[17:38] <any-key> if he's using non-default terminal colors it'll look different
[17:38] <Gotestra> theadmin, I would really appreciate it if you ellaborate more.
[17:38] <theadmin> Gotestra: (to do so, visit the "Hardware Drivers" in the main menu)
[17:39] <thebilgerat> aah!  that could be the issue.  Its just a niggling one, I sure appreciate your help
[17:39] <Gotestra> thadmin, in System Settings?
[17:39] <jrib> thebilgerat: use ":color" to check what colorscheme is loaded.  Also there are plenty of colorschemes that cater to 256-color terminals, check them out :)
[17:39] <theadmin> Gotestra: Is that where it is now? Haven't seen Ubuntu in a while. But, well, there's... Gah. Hit Ctrl-alt-T, type "gksudo jockey-gtk" in, hit Enter.
[17:39] <celthunder> MrUnagi: what do you have starting on that runlevel and ...if you cant get to init 1 then you probably have some odd hw or perhaps need to load or unload a kernel module.
[17:40] <wylde> Gotestra: yes.
[17:40] <thebilgerat> excellent - thanks jrib!  It may seem silly, but I get persnickety when I expect my code tags to be a certain color :)
[17:40] <MrUnagi> celthunder: i personally didn't put anything on any runlevel
[17:40] <Gotestra> Um, I see nothing of the sort there,
[17:40] <MrUnagi> celthunder: ill just try server
[17:40] <theadmin> celthunder: Ubuntu has no runlevel 1, infact Ubuntu has only 3 runlevels pretty much - 0, 6 and 1-5 which are all *identical*
[17:40] <Gotestra> I see an "Additional Drivers"
[17:40] <wylde> Gotestra: "Additional Drivers"
[17:41] <Gotestra> Yes.
[17:41] <theadmin> Gotestra: Yeah that'd be it.
[17:41] <Gotestra> Ok.
[17:41] <yooozy> hello folks
[17:41] <jrib> thebilgerat: if you like white text on gray background, I can recommend inkpot and zenburn.  Another popular one nowadays is solarized
[17:41] <Gotestra> I'm actually updating tons right no
[17:41] <Gotestra> *now
[17:41] <Gotestra> So, I'll try that later.
[17:41] <theadmin> Gotestra: That'd do, yeah, jockey won't work during upgrades
[17:41] <thebilgerat> I'll check those out
[17:41] <MrUnagi> is there anything i can type during installation to give me verbose
[17:41] <celthunder> theadmin: 0 shutdown 6 restart...1 should be single user 3 terminal 5 x....
[17:42] <yooozy> Q? /usr/bin takes too much time to load!!!! is that normal?
[17:42] <Somelauw> minimec: Thanks, I will install it using sudo
[17:42] <theadmin> celthunder: No, in Ubuntu: 0 = shutdown, 6 = reboot, 1-5 = full GUI desktop with everything loaded...
[17:42] <theadmin> !upstart | celthunder
[17:42] <auronandace> yooozy: define too much
[17:42] <minimec> Somelauw: I use it in combination with openjdk-6-jre. That is ubuntu default. The dummy package would be default-jre. Like that, the java environment is found without problems during install.
[17:43] <phibxr> yooozy, Load? In what way are you attempting to load a folder?
[17:43] <Somelauw> minimec: Will NetbeansProjects still work?
[17:43] <yooozy> auronandace, one min
[17:43] <Somelauw> Do all settings still work?
[17:43] <yooozy> no I'm browsing from another app
[17:43] <minimec> Somelauw: Well... I loaded/sync one via svn and it works...
[17:44] <Gotestra> Oh also
[17:44] <Gotestra> I got another problem.
[17:44] <Gotestra> I can't lower brightness
[17:44] <Gotestra> I know how to.
[17:44] <Gotestra> But the brightness remains the same.
[17:44] <oCean> Gotestra: bad habit kicking in again
[17:44] <Gotestra> Wow I really am bad at this.
[17:44] <phibxr> yooozy, /usr/bin will be a very, very crowded folder and will likely take a while to load in a file browser unless you have an SSD-drive. Even on my SSD-drive, it takes about 6 seconds to load and display all items.
[17:45] <learning_couchdb> hi guys, a question, somebody knows about a good example of howto implement 'runit'?
[17:45] <cesarstafe> hi guys, a question, somebody knows about a good example of howto implement 'runit'?
[17:45] <yooozy> phibxr, so it's normal thing
[17:46] <phibxr> yooozy, Unless you're experiencing some quite extraordinary delays, I'd say so. /usr/bin isn't really made for browsing. :)
[17:46] <cesarstafe> I didn't set up before 'runit' to enable in any place/distro/wathever *nix machine, So I wanna start reading some good example
[17:48] <yooozy> phibxr, thanks
[17:50] <theadmin> cesarstafe: It's in the repos: sudo apt-get install runit
[17:50] <Pici> cesarstafe: Is there a reason that you can't use upstart?
[17:51] <minimec> Somelauw: Just for information. You would also have the openjdk-7-jre option... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=openjdk-7-jre
[17:53] <EsoRottica> Im in need of a bit of help please. While trying to change which monitors were enabled yesterday, I managed to get them to all blank.  After 30 seconds, the system did not revert the settings, I rebooted the computer. I am now no longer able to login to that user profile, others on the system still work. Can someone please help me to correct the problem?
[17:54] <sharp15> is there an eta for 12.04LTS?  i just want to know if its days, weeks, or months.
[17:54] <Pici> sharp15: April 26th, no set time.
[17:54] <phibxr> sharp15, so, three days. :P
[17:55] <theadmin> sharp15: Just so you know, the naming convention is YY.MM, so it can't be months, since it's already month 4.
[17:55] <sharp15> ok.  thank you.
[17:56] <wylde> !release | sharp15: Two pages for info here.
[17:56] <sharp15> theadmin: oh.  i didn't expect they had any relation to the outside world.  thought they were just version numbers.  good to know.
[17:56] <sharp15> wylde: thanks.
[17:57] <theadmin> sharp15: The release is every 6 months, which is why it always ends in .04 or .10
[17:57] <EsoRottica> Hello, is anyone albe to help with some Xorg configuration?
[17:58] <theadmin> EsoRottica: Much too vague
[17:58] <theadmin> EsoRottica: Details needed
[17:59] <sorta-noob> OK. I'm trying to get the unity launcher to take and keep a different color (without changing backgrounds) http://imagebin.org/209381 . I installed myunity and it can change it, but it changes back shortly after...
[17:59] <Somelauw> minimec: For some reason it got installed in local/netbeans, but I don't think that is on my PATH
[18:00] <EsoRottica> theadmin, i did post some details moments ago, I have a user profile I'm not able to login to after borking which screens were turned on. I managed to get them to all blank.  After 30 seconds, the system did not revert the settings, I rebooted the computer. I am now no longer able to login to that user profile, others on the system still work. Currently when i try loggin in, lightdm passes the credentials, but i get sent back to the
[18:00] <minimec> Somelauw: /usr/local/netbeans should be ok.
[18:00] <Somelauw> minimec: It doesn't open when I type netbeans in a terminal.
[18:01] <minimec> Somelauw: /usr/local is in PATH
[18:02] <theadmin> minimec: /usr/local wouldn't be in $PATH, that's abnormal. /usr/local/bin on the other hand would.
[18:02] <minimec> theadmin: You're right ;)
[18:03] <Somelauw> What is the recommended way in ubuntu to get the netbeans executable on the PATH?
[18:04] <theadmin> Somelauw: I say - sudo ln -s /path/to/netbeans /usr/local/bin/netbeans
[18:04] <Somelauw> theadmin: Okay, thanks
[18:05] <Somelauw> minimec: Thanks, as well
[18:05] <ezoe> Is it safe to purge OpenJDK? I mean remove OpenJDK and all software depends on OpenJDK.
[18:05] <luna> hello everybody. I have installed ubuntu 12.04. I cannot find hibertane button. Can anyone help me, please?
[18:05] <bkc_> luna: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 :)
[18:06] <ezoe> I want to make sure that ubuntu works without Java runtime.
[18:06] <bkc_> ezoe: which programs depends on java?
[18:06] <Artemis3> !beta | luna
[18:06] <theadmin> ezoe: It does. LibreOffice will break though.
[18:06] <luna> bkc_: tk u
[18:07] <ezoe> I can live without LibreOffice, But I don't want to disable some GUI system setting tools if there is any.
[18:07] <theadmin> ezoe: Nah, the only Java-based soft that comes with ubuntu is LO if I recall right.
[18:07] <bkc_> ezoe: If you're using gnome all settings-tools are build with gtk :)
[18:08] <bkc_> for kde it's Qt
[18:08] <auronandace> theadmin: there isn't much left in libreoffice that depends on java
[18:08] <ezoe> hmm. that's good to know. I'll consider removing OpenJDK when 12.04 released. and, Mono too.
[18:08] <Lint> libreoffice works mostly fine without java
[18:08] <theadmin> auronandace: Oh is that so? Haven't checked in a while, last I tried it threw like 30 warnings at me before starting, EVERY time
[18:08] <ezoe> Really?
[18:08] <Lint> only base and some most stupid expansions like zemberek need it
[18:09] <bkc_> does anyone know where too find a list of the things LO depends on java?
[18:09] <ezoe> I thought LibreOffice is a successor of OpenOffice and it was written in Java.
[18:09] <auronandace> ezoe: not fully no
[18:09] <bkc_> ezoe: it's a re-written fork/copy of OOo, not a successor
[18:09] <Gotestra> Problem here. My brightness is not going down.
[18:09] <Gotestra> Help.
[18:09] <ezoe> apt-cache rdepnds shows me many libreoffice related components depends on openjre.
[18:11] <Lint> ezoe, that is stupidity of maintainers.
[18:11] <Lint> if that troubles you, install the real libreoffice from its homepage
[18:12] <ezoe> well, I don't use libreoffice right now. so I can bare without it.
[18:12] <theadmin> Be right back.
[18:12] <minimec> Gotestra: what kind of GPU? For intel, this might help http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=openjdk-7-jre
[18:12] <minimec> Gotestra: sorry ;) http://www.circuidipity.com/daniel.2011-04-05.intel_backlight_grub.html
[18:13] <Gotestra> Um
[18:13] <Gotestra> Newbie question:
[18:13] <Gotestra> How do I use those?
[18:14] <minimec> Gotestra: Those what?
[18:14] <Gotestra> Packages.
[18:14] <Gotestra> I started used Ubuntu barely 6 hours ago.
[18:14] <ezoe> hmm
[18:15] <LmAt> What is the best text-based e-mail client?
[18:15] <Pici> LmAt: mutt or pine
[18:15] <LmAt> Pici: THanks!
[18:15] <Pici> Gotestra: A package is just a technical term for something you can install from the software center...
[18:15] <Gotestra> Oh.
[18:15] <ezoe> I tried, but not actually perform, apt-get purge to see what packages will be removed. LibreOffice is not listed.
[18:16] <Gotestra> How about those things you have to install using the command line
[18:16] <Gotestra> .tghz or whatever.
[18:16] <theadmin> Gotestra: Don't touch those until you know what you're doing.
[18:16] <Pici> Gotestra: Those are compressed archives... like zip files.
[18:16] <auronandace> !software | Gotestra
[18:16] <minimec> Gotestra: Well... Packages may contain applications or depending libraries; certainly other things to. In newer ubuntu version, the software center and the update-manager manager them for you...
[18:16] <Gotestra> Oh.
[18:17] <Gotestra> Wow I have a lot to learn.
[18:17] <theadmin> Gotestra: It's mostly source-code -- some tarballs are binary but that's rare. ALWAYS look in the software center before installing anything in a crazy way (tarballs are a crazy way)
[18:17] <Gotestra> :o
[18:17] <Lint> is software-center finally fixed in precise?
[18:17] <theadmin> Well, not "crazy", just not recommended.
[18:17] <theadmin> Lint: What do you mean by "fixed", it works just fine in Oneiric, even.
[18:17] <Gotestra> I remember using tarball on my iPod Touch, I used a Unix terminal command for installing crazy stuff.
[18:18] <Gotestra> Thanks btw
[18:18] <Lint> 11.10 version is unusable
[18:18] <simplew> ubuntu uses systemd?
[18:18] <oCean> Lint: precise is offtopic
[18:18] <theadmin> simplew: Hah I wish, no, Ubuntu uses Upstart.
[18:18] <simplew> theadmin: why doesnt use systemd?
[18:18] <Pici> oCean: 11.10 is oneiric.
[18:18] <auronandace> Lint: unusable how?
[18:18] <theadmin> simplew: That's about the same as asking why it doesn't use KDE, for instance -- developer choice, that's all
[18:18] <Pici> oCean: oops, misread.
[18:19] <oCean> np
[18:19] <simplew> well seams i will not use ubuntu
[18:19] <Lint> it hangs constantly and fails to query installation/deinstallation properly
[18:19] <Lint> and of course it is an order of magnitude slower than synaptic
[18:19] <auronandace> Lint: hangs constantly? my xubunu 11.10 is solid as a rock
[18:19] <k014> can i ask here software doubts?
[18:20] <theadmin> k014: Depends on what you mean...
[18:20] <auronandace> Lint: oh, just the software centre? sorry, i only use synaptic
[18:20] <theadmin> Lint: Software center is written in Python, making it quite a resource hog, I don't think they're going to "fix" that.
[18:21] <k014> for example, now i am in a mac OSX (snow leopard) at my the office…. using ADIUM, i wanted to know if there is any software in ubuntu to join irc servers that have the same look and feel that hadium have
[18:21] <theadmin> k014: Pidgin (Adium is a direct clone of Pidgin)
[18:21] <k014> GREAT, thank you
[18:21] <k014> but, i gonna give a try first to irsii
[18:21] <k014> is really difficult for me, but i cant console solutions
[18:21] <k014> :D
[18:22] <theadmin> k014: It's "irssi", and you won't like it if you're not a fan of CLI
[18:24] <cyrusgod> Hi there, can anyone tell me if 12.04 bring gnome 3 or unity?
[18:24] <ikonia> cyrusgod: unity is gnome 3
[18:24] <auronandace> cyrusgod: both, unity is a shell on top of gnome3
[18:24] <ikonia> cyrusgod: unity is the desktop shell for all ubuntu release.
[18:24] <LmAt> Pici: I can't figure it out.  Which is better, mutt or pine?
[18:25] <minimec> k014: But if you love a terminal, it could give you something like this... http://imagebin.org/209387
[18:25] <trism> cyrusgod: we do have gnome-shell as well though
[18:25] <Pici> LmAt: I personally prefer mutt. But ymmv.
[18:25] <auronandace> LmAt: better is subjective
[18:25] <Moon_Doggy> ello ello
[18:25] <k014> now i am fine with CLI, i use vim dialy, but i am looking for a irc cli client, that let me see user list in realtime…. seems like irssi can do that but not in a easy way
[18:25] <LmAt> Pici: One thing is that the mutt channel has people in it.
[18:25] <LmAt> auronandace: Not always.
[18:25] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Congratulations.
[18:25] <theadmin> k014: You can look on scripts.irssi.org for a script which'd do that
[18:25] <cyrusgod> ikonia: trism Thnks
[18:26] <Moon_Doggy> i need help editing the .bashrc
[18:26] <Pici> k014: #irssi is also active and helpful.
[18:26] <theadmin> Moon_Doggy: With what exactly?
[18:26] <Moon_Doggy> LmAt, ??? congratulations?
[18:26] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Congrats on making it to #ubuntu!!
[18:26] <auronandace> k014: another one like irssi is weechat
[18:27] <Moon_Doggy> theadmin, i'm trying to add the android-sdk to my path but terminal give me this bash: export: `/home/moondoggy/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools': not a valid identifier
[18:27] <theadmin> Moon_Doggy: export PATH="$PATH:/home/moondoggy/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools"
[18:27] <axisys> how do read excel from cli? looking for abiword or antiword like tool for word doc
[18:27] <bekks> axisys: there isnt.
[18:28] <theadmin> axisys: Convert the table to CSV is the best I can suggest
[18:29] <Moon_Doggy> theadmin, tyvm
[18:29] <axisys> theadmin, bekks : hmm.. convert csv will do.. any csv converter ?
[18:30] <fl1bbl3> can do that via perl directly too
[18:30] <peeps> while trying to install ubuntu 12.04 got the message "video mode not supported" any ideas on how to rectify this problem?
[18:30] <axisys> excel to csv?
[18:30] <yalu> hello. it seems there is no swiss german layout in ubuntu (anymore), or I am too  stupid to find it. "setxkbmap sg" slings an error "Error loading new keyboard description".
[18:30] <k014> ok, thank you admin and Pici :)
[18:30] <bekks> axisys: "no".
[18:30] <axisys> fl1bbl3: right.. i want ot make it simple like a wrapper.. feed the excel file and display the output
[18:32] <marsfligth> why on 10.10/64bit i can't switch desktop? the other 3 are greyed. The applet name is 'Workspace Switcher'
[18:34] <bekks> marsfligth: Add more desktops, then switch to them?
[18:35] <d3vil> hi
[18:35] <d3vil> anuone there?
[18:35] <wylde> !10.10
[18:35] <GetsEclectic> hey can anyone help me with gptsync or is there a better channel to ask about it?
[18:35] <d3vil> anyone help me to install openfoam
[18:36] <Varazir> Hello, I'm trying to give one client diffrent DNS adresses using dhcp, I tried to add option domain-name-servers to the host statement  in the dhcpd.conf but the host still was given the dns adress from the subnet statement
[18:36] <afterburner> help please .. what can I do to make firefox, xchat etc. to respect unity gtk theme??!
[18:36] <Moon_Doggy> !11.10
[18:36] <GetsEclectic> keep getting analysis inconclusive, i thought it was because of my bios boot partition but i installed a newer gptsync debian package and it's still failing
[18:37] <marsfligth> bekks: already done, all still greyed. before i used also 'ctrl+alt+desk number' but now has dead
[18:37] <Moon_Doggy> afterburner, have you tried changing theme then logging out then back in
[18:38] <Ghost_Berry> how to enable taskbar editing in ubuntu 11.10( I want to remove icons I recently added)
[18:38] <afterburner> MooMoo, no .. I`ll do it now
[18:38] <foobArrr> my esata hard drive doesn't work, it doesn't appear in disk utility or lsblk. I don't think it's a hardware problem, it works fine on os x on the same pc. dmesg says http://paste.ubuntu.com/942941/
[18:38] <theadmin> Ghost_Berry: Just right click them and untick "Keep in Launcher"
[18:38] <Moon_Doggy> tho on gnome-shell i just do a alt-f2 r  but i dont know if that works on unity
[18:39] <LmAt> Pici: Does the fact that I use exchange change anything (when deciding on a text-based e-mail client)?
[18:40] <Moon_Doggy> i use roundcube for me email
[18:40] <Moon_Doggy> but i also have me own email server
[18:40] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Is it text-based?
[18:41] <Moon_Doggy> LmAt, na web client
[18:41] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm struggling here. Im a bit new to linux and cant quite figure this problem out. I have a user profile that I can no longer log into. This happened after I had a problem with the display manager and reboot the computer. Other profiles work fine, but when I try logging into this one, the screens blank then it takes me back to the login screen. Any clues on what I can do? Thank you.
[18:41] <Ammar_> hello
[18:41] <davros1966> Anyone?
[18:41] <FirePowi> Anyone :)
[18:41] <LmAt> Moon_Doggy: Sorry, there wasn't much context in my question.  I'm definitely looking for a text-based client (like irssi and elinks) and Pici had suggested mutt and pine.
[18:42] <afterburner> Moon_Doggy, it doesn`t work
[18:42] <Moon_Doggy> afterburner, any luck?
[18:42] <davros1966> Im a noob ... lol
[18:42] <Moon_Doggy> lol
[18:42] <Ghost_Berry> hello\
[18:42] <Ammar_> I have installed windows xp on a virtualbox. but everytime I powerup my machine, it takes me to the installation menu
[18:42] <Ammar_> how do I fix that
[18:42] <Ammar_> ?
[18:43] <Moon_Doggy> then i dont what to do then, i dumped unity after 10 mins for gnome3
[18:43] <xangua> Ammar_: sounds like a question for ##windows
[18:43] <davros1966> ~Unity is cool
[18:43] <EsoRottica> Ammar_, have you pushed f12 to select boot device?
[18:43] <simplew> is there any planing to change into Systemd?  or ubuntu will continue with upstart?
[18:43] <Ammar_> nope
[18:43] <EsoRottica> try that.
[18:43] <Ammar_> alright
[18:43] <bekks> simplew: Ubuntu will continue with upstart for at least 5 years.
[18:44] <simplew> bekks: but why, when systemd offers more stability, beneficts and options ?
[18:44] <theadmin> bekks: Where is that date coming from?
[18:44] <bekks> theadmin: Thats how long 12.04 will be supported, whoch uses upstart. :)
[18:44] <simplew> fedora did changed from upstrart into Systemd
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: I don't think Fedora ever used Upstart, it's an Ubuntu project.
[18:45] <MarcN> Ammar_: sounds like you still have the windows xp install iso still mounted.
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: Far as I recall they only used the good old SysV Init earlier
[18:45] <simplew> theadmin: yes they did
[18:45] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: all i get when I right click is "launch" "properties" ubuntu 9 allows the simple right click but not ubuntu 11.10
[18:45] <theadmin> simplew: Huh. Guess I missed it.
[18:46] <theadmin> Ghost_Berry: Some icons are pinned by default and unremovable, no idea what to do about them. Most of them can be removed though
[18:46] <simplew> then Fedora switched to Systemd that offered much beneficts
[18:46] <theadmin> simplew: Why do *you* need systemd?
[18:46] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: its the icons I have added but i am unable to remove as I did easily in the previous version
[18:46] <simplew> im used to systemd, and its very reliabe
[18:46] <Ghost_Berry> theadmin: thanks for trying
[18:47] <theadmin> simplew: Okay, so no reason, except "I'm used to it". There is no way Upstart is not "reliable".
[18:47] <simplew> and i been checking the pros and crons in distros, to see which distro i will use
[18:47] <Ammar__> @EsoRottica thanks :D it worked!
[18:47] <simplew> theadmin: i have been reading severall pages about upstart and systemd
[18:48] <MarcN> Anyone have experience with the DisplayLink USB Video adapter? Haven't been able to get it working under Oneric or Precise.  Requires xorg.conf hacking (which I have hated for years)
[18:48] <bazhang> simplew, ubuntu support question then? this is getting quite offtopic
[18:48] <simplew> also talked with some developers about the real beneficts, and they were clear on that point
[18:48] <bazhang> !ot | simplew
[18:48] <EsoRottica> Ammar__, you're welcome, now if only i could figure out my profile problem :)
[18:49] <theadmin> simplew: You can just install systemd from the repos and use it. I don't see a problem here.
[18:49] <theadmin> !info systemd
[18:49] <simplew> theadmin: not that im against upstart, im was just trying to understand the why using a certain app where there is a better option
[18:49] <theadmin> Oh, huh.
[18:49] <theadmin> Thought we had it...
[18:49] <simplew> theadmin: is simple as that?
[18:49] <trism> theadmin: we don't have systemd in ubuntu, it is in debian though
[18:49] <theadmin> simplew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[18:50] <theadmin> simplew: Some instructions there
[18:50] <bazhang> simplew, please. take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <theadmin> trism: Ah, I see.
[18:50] <simplew> does upstart works as systemd? doesnt packages need to have a proper scriptlets for systemd?
[18:50] <dudeeg> Hi! May I have a question regarding ubuntu installation, in case of dual boot, spiced a little bit of SSD sector alignment?
[18:51] <simplew> bazhang: but this i think is not that off topic, im trying to undesrtand a matter about upstart
[18:51] <Star_Light> ##C++
[18:51] <simplew> theadmin: ok thanks for tips
[18:52] <simplew> theadmin: can you just tell me if debian uses systemd or upstart?
[18:52] <zanberdo> running ubuntu 8.04 LTS server and need libutempter-dev in order to build mosh from source. However, libutempter-dev does not appear to be apart of ubuntu 8.04. How might one aquire such a library for an older release of ubuntu?
[18:52] <kantlivelong> anyone know what common issues prevent suspending?
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: I've honestly never used debian myself
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: I'm an Arch user, and configuring systemd on Arch is rather simple (even though it's not the default)
[18:53] <theadmin> simplew: But that is way offtopic.
[18:53] <Binsh> Any recommended console musicplayers which support samba?
[18:54] <dudeeg> so, is my question offtopic about proper setup for SSD with ubuntu/win partition?
[18:54] <bekks> Binsh: Just mount the samba share, and every music player will support it.
[18:54] <Binsh> bekks: hmmkay, ive had some trouble with amarok and banshee :S
[18:55] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, i think you'd have to acquire the source and build it on your system, the earliest (currently supported) release it exists in is Lucid, you could try to build that package from source (although its likely you won't have the prereqs)
[18:55] <ikonia> dudeeg: what's your question ?
[18:55] <kantlivelong> rather... anyone know why pm_trace doesnt work?
[18:55] <EvilResistance> s/likely/possible/
[18:55] <minimec> dudeeg: It is not. But if you already have a ntfs alignment settings, maybe you should resize the partition you want to use for ubuntu with the windows tools.
[18:56] <asterisk-Tester> hello, in ubuntu 11 under unity2d, the files/home icon/button that lets u browse ur disk is nautilus, right ?
[18:56] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, thanks. that's the approach I am taking (building from scratch). I'm just not sure if most ./configure or make will find what it needs if I merely build and deploy utempter. Guess I'll se.. :)
[18:56] <dudeeg> ikonia: I've read on several forums that the SSD partitions should be aligned in a way that the start sector number should be divisible by 8 in order to reduce the unnecessary load
[18:56] <dudeeg> ikonia: so, I'd like to have one SSD with ubuntu and win7 on it
[18:56] <ikonia> dudeeg: I don't believe that, but the guys in ##hardware may know more for certain
[18:56] <ikonia> dudeeg: ok, so just partition it up in partitions /8
[18:57] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, couldnt tell you, but you could look at the dependencies of the package as it exists in Lucid, see what programs it needs.  Of course, the program won't build if the correct prereqs dont exist, so... :P
[18:57] <minimec> dudeeg: IMHO that is correct and I did it like that.
[18:57] <Fyodorovna> dudeeg, I doubt the ssd card will show overall a perfect sized cylinders anyway.
[18:57] <dudeeg> ikonia: so the proper approach is to boot in using the liveCD, and then create two partitions (ntfs/ext4) with a proper start sector count?
[18:58] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, yeah. thanks. that's pretty much what I figured. I was actually fishing to see if there is/was some other means through which I could install. Just being lazy. :)
[18:58] <ikonia> dudeeg: just use the installer,
[18:58] <ikonia> dudeeg: I'd do more research before bothering with that /8 stuff, but it's up to you
[18:58] <EvilResistance> zanberdo, someone could in theory try to backport the package from lucid, but i have no idea whether that'd work or not (its possible it wouldnt, and i'm not exactly able to help test, even though I do occasionally backport things within PPAs)
[18:58] <minimec> dudeeg: If you use a clean ssd, the installer should handle it the correct way...
[18:59] <dudeeg> ikonia: okay, lets put that away now. So if I am done with the partitions and I install Ubuntu, and then later on I install win7, then I need to reload the grub into the MBR. Is that right?
[19:00] <zanberdo> EvilResistance, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll take a stab at building it from source on target server and see what happens when I attempt to build mosh.
[19:00] <ikonia> dudeeg: correct, it's better to install windows first if possible
[19:00] <dudeeg> ikonia: okay, thank you for your help
[19:01] <dudeeg> by the way. Is there a summary somewhere that shows the major upgrades in the new release that is coming soon? I am having 11.10 now
[19:03] <minimec> dudeeg: That could be a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[19:04] <kx> anyone know if it's possible to remap keyboard Fn function key to use as a standalone button?
[19:04] <aknewhope> kx: that would be cool
[19:05] <kx> yep
[19:05] <dudeeg> minimec: thx!
[19:06] <theadmin> kx: It doesn't produce a keycode by itself, so unlikely.
[19:06] <sun_devil> Is it easy to connect to a mysql database on a server via ubuntu?
[19:06] <ikonia> sun_devil: yes
[19:07] <aknewhope> ssh right?
[19:08] <ikonia> aknewhope: what ?
[19:08] <LordXe-gnu> ssh it's nap time
[19:08] <ikonia> what ?
[19:08] <afterburner> Moon_Doggy: I figured out.. :)
[19:08] <sun_devil> ikonia: My vmware with the mysql is set to bridged, just not sure what to do on ubuntu to access database?
[19:09] <NurseDad> how do i check to see if my ati card is rendering 3d?
[19:09] <aknewhope> huh?
[19:09] <ikonia> sun_devil: exactly the same as if it was a physical box
[19:09] <axisys> ssconvert from pkg gnumeric converts xlsx to csv and other formats..
[19:09] <afterburner> medit gtkrc-2.0 = include "/usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" gtk-icon-theme-name = "ubuntu-mono-dark"
[19:09] <axisys> and it is fast
[19:09] <sun_devil> So install mysql workbench on ubuntu machine and create settings?
[19:10] <ikonia> sun_devil: if that's how you like to connect, sure
[19:11] <aknewhope> does anyone know if there is a room for pidgn chat client on freenode?
[19:11] <ikonia> aknewhope: .....think about it #pidgin
[19:11] <sun_devil> ikonia: I can access the database in vmware via command line and mysql workbench, but have not done anything on ubuntu machine
[19:11] <aknewhope> i thought it was spelled pidgn
[19:11] <prailone> hey
[19:11] <aknewhope> woops
[19:11] <aknewhope> thanks
[19:11] <prailone> anyway someone could help me im having trouble
[19:12] <ikonia> sun_devil: so do it
[19:12] <zanberdo> NurseDad, with mesa-utils installed you can run: glxinfo | grep [Dd]irect
[19:12] <prailone> after installing ubuntu my computer will not connect to the internet
[19:12] <sun_devil> ikonia: do what set up workbench on ubuntu, if so you know the apt-get for workbench?
[19:13] <ikonia> sun_devil: come on....you need to learn a bit if you don't know how to even search for a package
[19:13] <zanberdo> NurseDad, you should see: ":direct rendering: Yes" if it's supported
[19:13] <ikonia> sun_devil: https://help.ubuntu.com - read the basics of how to use an ubuntu machine
[19:13] <gebbione> anyone here uses openshot?
[19:14] <Logan_> !anyone | gebbione
[19:14] <gebbione> anyone uses openshot here? when i export a video i dont get the audio working
[19:14] <gebbione> no matter what codec i select for audio
[19:15] <Logan_> gebbione: If you don't find someone here who knows the solution to your problem, the official channel for OpenShot is #openshot.
[19:16] <sun_devil> no mercy
[19:16] <gebbione> the two guys on that channel are dead
[19:16] <minimec> prailone: I have to guess that you have some wireless connection problms. Are your sure, that your device is not switched of? Hardware key or 'enable wireless' with network-manager.
[19:16] <NurseDad> zanberdo: so if I see direct rendering yes then I have 3d?
[19:16] <prailone> its wired internet
[19:16] <prailone> this is the first time i installed ubuntu :$
[19:17] <aknewhope> i love ubuntu
[19:17] <aknewhope> <3
[19:17] <MrUnagi> vm is restarting, 3rd times a charm i hope
[19:17] <prailone> when it was installing i pulled the ethernet cable by accident would that be the reason?
[19:18] <minimec> prailone: Probably not.
[19:18] <prailone> any idea why it wouldent be working?
[19:19] <minimec> ok. in a console type the command 'ifconfig'. That would give you some indications. You should have some eth0 device or similar.
[19:19] <MrUnagi> yay!
[19:19] <prailone> eth0
[19:19] <shanemini> ok, my wife's Dell mini that I'm 'not allowed'  to touch finally ran into a problem
[19:19] <minimec> prailone: So your device should be recognized by the system. Does eth0 have some ip adress?
[19:20] <sun_devil> What is the command to find out if you have a 32 or 64 bit machine?
[19:20] <prailone> ya inet addr:192.168.1.64
[19:20] <ikonia> uname -a will show if your using 32/64 bit
[19:20] <prailone> bcast:192.168.1.255
[19:20] <ikonia> prailone: is there a reason we are getting a running commentary ?
[19:20] <NurseDad> so if I see "direct rendering: Yes
[19:20] <NurseDad> server glx vendor string: ATI
[19:20] <NurseDad> server glx version string: 1.4
[19:20] <ikonia> prailone: please stop it
[19:21] <NurseDad> does that mean I have 3d with the properity driver
[19:21] <shanemini> she was installing something, and now apt-get is totally locked up, here is the error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943022/
[19:21] <zanberdo> NurseDad, if glxinfo returns direct rendering: Yes then you have 3D support (IIRC).  You can try running glxgears to confirm
[19:21] <minimec> prailone: So your card is connected to your router too. Would 'ping 91.189.90.40' give you some response?
[19:22] <bekks> shanemini: Check available disk space.
[19:22] <prailone> no host unreachable
[19:22] <zykotick9> sun_devil: "uname -m" will report the kernel's bitness
[19:23] <NurseDad> is 1358.199FPS good in glxgears?
[19:23] <minimec> prailone: Hmm... ping 192.168.1.1 (default address router?)?
[19:23] <zykotick9> sun_devil: "dpkg --print-architecture" as an alternative
[19:23] <bkc_> NurseDad: please for the love of god, *don't* use glxgears for benchmarking -.-
[19:23] <prailone> same thing host unreachable
[19:24] <sun_devil> Thanks took a bit to google it
[19:24] <kurtul> my mic works with skype, but doesn't work with google-talk. can someone guide me please?
[19:24] <shanemini> bekks, root has 1.4G left, I cleaned out all the dowloaded packages
[19:24] <NurseDad> bkc: I already love God...and what should I use
[19:24] <bkc_> NurseDad: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[19:24] <sun_devil> I feel like a idiot today
[19:24] <shanemini> bekks  I need to remove a few kernels as there are about 20 installed, however apt-get won't let me do anything
[19:24] <bkc_> NurseDad: under "5. Real Benchmarks"
[19:24] <NurseDad> bkc: ok
[19:25] <bkc_> kurtul: have you set up google-talk correcly?
[19:25] <kurtul> yes i have
[19:25] <shanemini> bekks, I'm a little rusty on cli, and used to be able to fix this kind of stuff.
[19:26] <bekks> shanemini: Then first run sudo apt-get clean
[19:26] <shanemini> bekks, did that, I'll do it again
[19:26] <bekks> Check disk space again :)
[19:26] <minimec> prailone: the default ip of your router might be different than 192.168.1.1... As you got an ip adress from the router, you seem to be connected to it correctly. I would reboot that machine and see if you again get an ip and if that one is different.
[19:26] <zanberdo> NurseDad, note that I only suggested using glxgears to verify direct rendering. :)
[19:26] <shanemini> bekks, same old 1.4GB free
[19:26] <NurseDad> zanberdo: noted :)
[19:27] <bekks> shanemini: thats more than enough.
[19:27] <bekks> shanemini: Pastebin the output of df -h please
[19:27] <minimec> prailone: Do you have access to the router's admin panel form another computer? You could verify the connection then ...
[19:27] <bkc_> NurseDad: zanberdo: please use "glxinfo | grep direct" next time, takes shorter time and less confusion ^^
[19:27] <NurseDad> zanberdo: how do I confirm I am using the ATI property  driver?
[19:28] <bkc_> NurseDad: lsmod
[19:28] <NurseDad> bkc: that is what he had me do
[19:28] <bkc_> lsmod | grep radeon
[19:28] <shanemini> bekks,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943038/
[19:29] <NurseDad> bkc: after that command what am I looking for
[19:29] <bekks> shanemini: You dont have a free space problem anymore :)
[19:30] <bkc_> NurseDad: if you get output for "radeon" then you're using radeon-driver (which I believe is the prop-blob)
[19:30] <shanemini> bekks, just a second, I just realized she is using some old servers in the repo, I always set them to the USA, they are set to elsewhere
[19:30] <bkc_> NurseDad: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
[19:30] <bekks> shanemini: Which Ubuntu version is that?
[19:31] <bkc_> NurseDad: sorry, it's "lsmod | grep fglrx" for the proprietary driver :)
[19:31] <shanemini> bekks, I'm not sure, it the last LTS release that came on the dell mini
[19:31] <shanemini> bekks, so it is older
[19:31] <bekks> shanemini: You can check that with lsb_release -a
[19:32] <shanemini> bekks, lucid, 10.04
[19:33] <shanemini> bekks, ok, I reset the software source to the USA, I'm updating and going to try again, that may have been the problem
[19:33] <shanemini> bekks we lived out of the USA before, and the servers were set to the old country.
[19:33] <shanemini> of which I never did really trust.
[19:33] <NurseDad> bkc: jeff@jeffsLaptop:~$ lsmod | grep fglrx
[19:33] <NurseDad> fglrx                3263886  54
[19:33] <SupYoshi> Hi guys need some help
[19:34] <SupYoshi> I want to give one user access through ftp to a specific location in the /home of another user
[19:34] <SupYoshi> is that possible?
[19:34] <SupYoshi> Using proftpd
[19:34] <bkc_> NurseDad: then you're using the proprietary driver :)
[19:35] <shanemini> SupYoshi, if they are both Linux boxes, check out NFS, that is easy to setup
[19:35] <floogy> Hi, If I want to use ecryptfs only for a particular folder in my home directory, let's say ~/ubuntu one, is there a howto on the net for the steps to go?
[19:35] <shanemini> bekks, seems to be downloading now, I think it was a repo error, not downloading correctly, there probably was a space issue too.
[19:36] <NurseDad> bkc: thank you for your help today
[19:36] <NurseDad> zanberdo: thank you for your help today
[19:36] <floogy> I'm curious if that will work on other folders than ~/.Private
[19:37] <aleprovencio> I use "keycode 97 = Shift_L" with xmodmap, can someone please tell me how to do something similar with setxkbmap?
[19:37] <NurseDad> I used to know this stuff or some of it but I have been away in windows land for a few years
[19:37] <zanberdo> NurseDad, np. glad to help
[19:37] <wylde> !search cryptkeeper
[19:37] <wylde> !info cryptkeeper
[19:37] <zanberdo> bkc_, yeah, or even glxinfo | grep irect. Been working with regex alot lately... :)
[19:38] <bkc_> zanberdo: that's not really regex ^^
[19:38] <shanemini> bekks, check out this error, and the string of kernels that are installed:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/943050/
[19:38] <zanberdo> bkc_, meh :)
[19:38] <bkc_> zanberdo: you missed the -e switch
[19:39] <zanberdo> bkc_, yeah :) I'm dividing my attentions between this and trying to build mosh from source on ubuntu 8.04... :)
[19:39] <jatt> when will be the next ubutu release?
[19:39] <zykotick9> !schedule | jatt
[19:39] <bkc_> zanberdo: so 'glxinfo | grep -e "[D,d]irect"' would be correct ;)
[19:40] <zykotick9> bkc_: fyi using "grep -i direct" is case insensitive
[19:40] <bekks> shanemini: Whats the output of "df -i"?
[19:40] <zanberdo> bkc_, don't think the double-quotes is required, and the comma is superfluous IIRC
[19:41] <bkc_> zykotick9: yes :)
[19:41] <zanberdo> bkc_, and then there is zykotick9 suggestion. :)
[19:41] <bkc_> zanberdo: I'm used to perl-regex ^^
[19:41] <floogy> ubotto, yes, but as far as I remember EncFs doesn't support symlinking, though I'm not sure about a EncFs vs. ecryptfs comparison.
[19:41] <zanberdo> bkc_, python here. :)
[19:41] <bkc_> "Screw you guys, I'm doing home" ^^
[19:41] <baizon> you mena going
[19:41] <bkc_> baizon: yeyeye
[19:42] <bkc_> zanberdo: python is awesome for scripting ^^
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks, /dev/sda6             610800  608827    1973  100% /  that is the problem
[19:42] <baizon> Kaco: your bored?
[19:42] <bekks> shanemini: ack.
[19:42] <zanberdo> bkc_, it definitely has it's strengths.
[19:42] <Kaco> baizon, why would you think that?
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks I'm not sure what to do though.
[19:42] <shanemini> bekks, reboot??
[19:43] <zanberdo> bkc_, but I fear a language war were we to debate pros and cons, and this aint the channel for that. :)
[19:43] <baizon>  You are being CTCP flooded from Kaco, ignoring *!*@chello089173130011.chello.sk
[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, and you spelled "are you" wrong
[19:43] <bekks> shanemini: No. That wont magically generate more space :)
[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, lol flooded? i tested ctcp response ... i'm developing an irc client :)
[19:43] <shanemini> bekks, inodes are full, I'm not sure what an inode is, shall I get a toothbrush, and start cleaning them out???  lol
[19:43] <Kaco> baizon, isn't your irc client a little bit paranoid?
[19:44] <baizon> Kaco: so your a bad dev :D
[19:44] <floogy> err s/ubotto/wylde/
[19:44] <bekks> shanemini: You could temporarily move things, like old stuff from /usr/src/ until you solved the error message above.
[19:44] <bkc_> zanberdo: true ^^
[19:44] <bekks> Then move it back, and delete the old kernels.
[19:44] <Kaco> baizon, well IRC standard says that client should reply to CTCP, it doesn't say that client should be paranoid about ctcp request however
[19:44] <shanemini> bekks, hmm, isn't there a way I can force deletion of old kernels, routing around the problem?
[19:45] <baizon> Kaco: ctcp is a method to DoS people
[19:45] <baizon> so it has its reason
[19:45] <Pici> baizon, Kaco: can we get back to Ubuntu support please?
[19:45] <Kaco> baizon, well whole IRC protocl is shit :)
[19:45] <baizon> Pici: indeed, sorry
[19:45] <bekks> shanemini: you could try to remove the old kernels.
[19:45] <Pici> Kaco: and please mind your language here as well.
[19:45] <bekks> apt-get purge theoldkernel
[19:45] <Kaco> baizon, and doing DoS on IRC sounds pretty lame to me, it's not like Anonymous attacks :)
[19:45] <wolf_> join #ubuntu-ru
[19:46] <shanemini> bekks all my attempts at that have failed, I don't remember all the options to force stuff through
[19:47] <scientes> if i am going to set up world re-writable/shared media directories for all users, where do i have to put that to make it compatible with apparmor?
[19:47] <shanemini> bekks, everything in /usr/src all seem to be softlinks
[19:47] <bekks> shanemini: Softlinks to what?
[19:47] <scientes> shanemini, /usr/src is not used very much
[19:47] <shanemini> bekks, ohh, wait, not softlinks, they are folders
[19:47] <shanemini> all 4k size
[19:47] <bekks> scientes: Execpt for headers and kernel sources.
[19:48] <bekks> shanemini: du -sh /usr/src/
[19:48] <bekks> 4k is just the inode size of that directory entry.
[19:49] <IntuitiveNipple> shanemini: I had to do something similar earlier to a server I upgraded that hit 100% on /. I looked in /var/cache/apt/archives and removed the .deb package files from there to make a little space. Also, take a look at /var/log/*.gz
[19:49] <shanemini> bekks, I just dumped them all to a new temp location on a different partition, I'm going to try it again, should be good now
[19:49] <bekks> IntuitiveNipple: "sudo apt-get clean" ;)
[19:50] <bekks> shanemini: Check with df -i :)
[19:50] <IntuitiveNipple> bekks: Same thing - I had to do a live online resize of / too
[19:50] <shanemini> bekks, still moving it all
[19:50] <shanemini> that was a lot of junk in there
[19:51] <shanemini> bekks, ok, got it down to 92% now, still moving files
[19:52] <shanemini> bekks, what is the inode?  I would think if there are blocks left, then there is space left, that must not be true??
[19:53] <guntbert> shanemini: if you have a lot of small files you may run out of inode - every file needs/has one
[19:53] <guntbert> *inodes
[19:54] <IntuitiveNipple> shanemini: an inode is an index-node and represents about a file directory or other object
[19:54] <bekks> shanemini: The inode is the entity holding the information about the name and the location of a file, and a lot more information.
[19:54] <shanemini> bekks, ahh, it is the directory for the drive.
[19:55] <bekks> shanemini: It's like an index of a book, with a given maximum number of chapters.
[19:55] <shanemini> bekks, right, that is what I was understanding
[19:55] <aleprovencio> I use "keycode 97 = Shift_L" with xmodmap, can someone please tell me how to do something similar with setxkbmap?
[19:57] <n1x> hi, I'm unable to start Unity after using Kubuntu (KDE) for a while, here are the errors -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/943077/
[19:57] <shanemini> bekks ok, finally finished, now that is done, now before I move all those files back, I need to get rid of some, because there isn't enough inode space on root, any thoughts?
[19:57] <shanemini> bekks, I already ran apt-get -f install
[19:58] <StealthVipera47> Hi! Eny one know that can i run stronghold-kingdoms in wine?
[19:58] <shanemini> bekks, and that executed without error
[19:58] <bekks> shanemini: good :)
[19:58] <shanemini> bekks, I assume I can remove the old kernels that I didn't 'temp move' without a problem??
[19:59] <shanemini> bekks, or causing apt-get to cough up an error because of the moved files?
[19:59] <bekks> shanemini: Now remove an old kernel, and make sure you move back all directories to /usr/src/ with the version string of the kernel to be removed in its name.
[19:59] <bekks> shanemini: Right :)
[19:59] <shanemini> bekks, ok, thanks a billion, I'm pretty sure I have never seen a problem like that before.
[20:00] <momovirus> Bonsoir messieurs dames
[20:00] <auronandace> !fr | momovirus
[20:01] <Xut-G> Bonsoir !
[20:02] <bkc_> !fr | Xut-G
[20:02] <krababbel> Why shouldn't I edit resolv.conf? I had to remove network manager. How can I prevent resolv.conf from being reset, or how should I define a dns server?
[20:03] <_DDG_> my computer that is wired to my network will not connect to the internet
[20:03] <_DDG_> any ideas?
[20:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Does it have a default root configured? (ip route show)
[20:04] <_DDG_> how do i check that
[20:05] <el_seano> _DDG_: by running `ip route show` in a terminal
[20:05] <_DDG_> yes
[20:05] <sw0rdfish> how can I copy a bootable CD to a usb
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> and the usb would be bootable
[20:06] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: Does it have the correct DNS servers set (either a local proxy DNS, or ISP server) ?
[20:06] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: your best bet in general is to use uNetBootin.  Some iso's can be directly copied to a USB drive though.
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> el_seano, can't I just copy the CD's content
[20:06] <sw0rdfish> into the usb
[20:07] <sw0rdfish> after formating the usb first
[20:07] <sw0rdfish> would that work?
[20:07] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: depends on the iso.
[20:07] <guntbert> !enter | sw0rdfish
[20:07] <plustax> Does anyone know of an ETA for Ubuntu For Android?
[20:07] <floogy> Am I right, that only ecryptfs-migrate-home migrates the whole home directory to ecryptfs, while ecrypt-setup-private only sets up an empty encrypted ~/.Private folder?
[20:07] <shanemini> sw0rdfish, probably not, because there is something in there telling it to refer to the cdrom drive, vrs the usb stick
[20:08] <sw0rdfish> well its a vista cd
[20:08]  * el_seano is consistently impressed with the number of entries in ubottu.
[20:08] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: hard to say with the windows.
[20:08] <_DDG_> it does that automatically it looks right
[20:09] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: try "dig www.ubuntu.com" - you should get: ";; ANSWER SECTION: www.ubuntu.com.		44	IN	A	91.189.89.88"
[20:09] <MrUnagi> i have ubuntu in a virtual box with a raw access vdi mounted but ubuntu doesn't see it
[20:10] <MrUnagi> how do i mount a second hard drive in ubuntu
[20:10] <bekks> ! mount | MrUnagi
[20:10] <MrUnagi> right but what i am saying is i don't know what the dev is of this drive
[20:11] <rasusto> is it an external drive that you plugged in?
[20:11] <_DDG_> IntuitiveNipple: cibbectuib tuned iytl bi servers ciykd be reacged
[20:11] <bekks> MrUnagi: sudo fdisk -l
[20:11] <_DDG_> sorry connection timed out*
[20:11] <popey> plustax: no ☺
[20:11] <IntuitiveNipple> _DDG_: Try "ping 91.189.89.88"
[20:12] <_DDG_> net work is unreachable
[20:12] <rasusto> popey: how you do smiley face?
[20:12] <_DDG_> destination is unreachable*
[20:12] <el_seano> have we verified that _DDG_ has been issued an IP?
[20:12] <el_seano> _DDG_: try running `ip addr` in a terminal
[20:14] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: i sorta doubt ubuntu can mount vbox vdi images directly.  i could CERTAINLY be wrong.
[20:14] <_DDG_> whats suppose to come up i dont see an ip address
[20:14] <floogy> Ok, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/06/migrating-to-encrypted-home-directory.html and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/long-overdue-introduction-ecryptfs.html answer my questions.
[20:14] <MrUnagi> zykotick9: you can, but thats not what i am trying to do
[20:15] <popey> rasusto: with my keyboard ☺
[20:15] <el_seano> _DDG_: be easiest if you pastied the output.
[20:15] <el_seano> !paste _DDG_
[20:15] <zykotick9> MrUnagi: ahh, sorry.  then "sudo blkid" or "sudo fdisk -l" to list partitions
[20:15] <el_seano> heh, shucks.
[20:16] <bekks> sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[20:16] <zykotick9> elspuddy: you need to use = !factoid | NICKNAME
[20:16] <bekks> Otherwise you might see cached entries.
[20:16] <zykotick9> el_seano: tab fail :(  see above
[20:16] <_DDG_> im on another computer cuz it does not have inet so i cant do anything on the ubuntu comp :$
[20:16] <_DDG_> ill try and type it
[20:17] <el_seano> heh
[20:17] <el_seano> ah, right
[20:17] <el_seano> _DDG_: so, rather than that, try looking for the device name
[20:17] <el_seano> it should be something like eth0 or eth1
[20:17] <_DDG_> eth0
[20:17] <minimec> _DDG_: ip addr | grep eth0
[20:18] <el_seano> once you've figured out what the network device's name is, try running 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[20:19] <sepoki> hello, does anybody here have a script that copy a file rename it, but the new name depends the old one ?
[20:19] <el_seano> sepoki: try looking at `man rename`
[20:19] <_DDG_> el_seano: rtnetlink answers: flie sxists
[20:19] <escott> sepoki, you probably want to install and use the "rename" utility
[20:20] <multipass> im in ubuntu server in vmware and i cant scroll up to see all entries in ifconfig... how can i see the top one which is cut off?
[20:20] <el_seano> _DDG_: intersting, okay.
[20:20] <rasusto> multipass: ifconfig | less
[20:20] <el_seano> _DDG_: let's try running `ip addr | grep inet`
[20:20] <_DDG_> i replaced windows when i installed it
[20:20] <zykotick9> sepoki: you could also use something like: for file in * ; do cp $file NEW-$file ; done (which would add "NEW-" to the beginning of all files, basename could be used to add something to the end, but more complicated)
[20:21] <_DDG_> inet 127.0.1/8 scope host lo
[20:21] <el_seano> _DDG_: is that the only line you see?
[20:21] <_DDG_> 3 more under it
[20:21] <ryanjankowski> i just reactivated my android after not using it for a few months and now the market wont successfully download anything
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> anyone got any ideas/
[20:22] <zykotick9> ryanjankowski: how is that ubuntu related?
[20:22] <el_seano> _DDG_: any of them look like '192.168.something.something'?
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> just looking for help
[20:22] <theadmin> ryanjankowski: That's got nothing to do with Ubuntu, but you have to wait till your Market updates to the Play Store, it will do that automatically and will take a while
[20:22] <zykotick9> ryanjankowski: wrong channel.
[20:22] <SunTsu> ryanjankowski: in the wrong place
[20:22] <theadmin> ryanjankowski: Go to #android
[20:22] <el_seano> haha
[20:22] <el_seano> geez
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> oh sorry bros
[20:22] <ryanjankowski> my bad
[20:22] <_DDG_> el_seano:inet 192.168.1.64/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
[20:22] <devn> I'm on ubuntu server and I need to add a windowing system -- what's the best way to add this? which package should i use?
[20:23] <devn> install metacity? or is there a better way to go about this?
[20:23] <el_seano> cool, so you've been issued an address and you have a default route defined.
[20:23] <rasusto> devn:you'll need to install x first
[20:23] <_DDG_> el_seano: so where should i start looking for the problem now?
[20:24] <el_seano> _DDG_: probably on the router.
[20:24] <krababbel> what route?
[20:25] <el_seano> _DDG_: what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[20:25] <devn> rasusto: isn't there a package that will grab the deps for me?
[20:26] <el_seano> _DDG_: also, what did `ip route show` give you again?  Not seeing it in scrollback.
[20:26] <Saimom_> ciao
[20:26] <Saimom_> !list
[20:26] <Saimom_> !alis
[20:26] <rasusto> devn: i believe its xorg
[20:26] <_DDG_> default via 192.168.1.254
[20:27] <Saimom_> !list
[20:27] <krababbel> el_seano: Shouldn't resolv.conf be empty?
[20:27] <zykotick9> Saimom_: as the factoid is trying to tell you, !list doesn't work here.
[20:27] <decksmasher> Hi..im having trouble downloading tor im using ubuntu 10.10 its not in synaptic so i downloaded it from source , it configures but get an error when i try and make it ..it sais i need libssl-dev.  so i download these and still get the same errors, is this becouse im using an older version off ubuntu.regards Dex
[20:27] <el_seano> krababbel: not necessarily, I think.
[20:28] <rasusto> desksmasher: just download the tor browser bundle from tor.org
[20:28] <el_seano> krababbel: my vanilla Precise install has the loopback address for local resolving first.
[20:28] <forestmonster> decksmasher: You need https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[20:28] <krababbel> el_seano: not sure either, I have a text saying I shouldn't edit it.
[20:28] <forestmonster> decksmasher: the Tor Browser Bundle :)
[20:28] <decksmasher> thanks guys.!
[20:29] <el_seano> oh right, networkmanager likes to handle it.
[20:29] <krababbel> _DDG_: so you can ping that router on 192.168.1.254? Is it sayin "state UP" on 'ip link'?
[20:30] <_DDG_> it wont ping it
[20:30] <el_seano> krababbel: the router is more likely at 192.168.1.1
[20:31] <_DDG_> when i ping 192.168.0.1 it comes back with destination unreachable
[20:31] <guntbert> !nickspam > haylo
[20:31] <el_seano> _DDG_: your ip address has you on the 192.168.1.0 network, so unless you have a route to the 192.168.0.0 network, you won't be able to reach it.
[20:31] <el_seano> _DDG_: try `ping -c3 192.168.1.1`
[20:32] <krababbel> _DDG_: whatch the numbers. :) The router should be the default route then, not 254?
[20:32] <_DDG_> 3 packets transmitted 0 receiver +3 errors, 100% packet loss
[20:33] <_DDG_> el_seano: 3 packets transmitted 0 receiver +3 errors, 100% packet loss
[20:33] <el_seano> heh, drat
[20:33] <krababbel> _DDG_: You could also configure you interface automatically via dhcp?
[20:33] <krababbel> _DDG_: do you use networkmanager?
[20:33] <_DDG_> krababbel: it is set to auto atm :$
[20:33] <_DDG_> krabbel:no
[20:34] <minimec> _DDG_: sudo ifconfig eth0 down , then sudo dhclient eth0
[20:37] <_DDG_> minimec: still nothing :(
[20:38] <minimec> _DDG_: Did your ip for eth0 change? Or do you have got one again?
[20:38] <krababbel> _DDG_: Is it saying "state UP" on 'ip link'?
[20:39] <_DDG_> minimec: no
[20:39] <krababbel> _DDG_: also you'll have to enter your dns server address in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head then do resolvconf -u
[20:39] <_DDG_> krababbe1: yes
[20:40] <krababbel> _DDG_: you router is 192.168.1.1, but ip route says via 192.168.1.254? That's wrong, it should use your router.
[20:41] <krababbel> _DDG_: If you want to use static configuration. Are you sure about the router's address?
[20:41] <Marezz> Anyone knows some good ebook reader?
[20:42] <rasusto> Marezz: software or hardware?
[20:42] <_DDG_> krababbe1: i just want my internet to work
[20:42] <Marezz> software
[20:42] <MirkoKa> Marezz: try Calibre
[20:42] <DJones> Marezz: Try calibre, its a converter, but includes a reader
[20:44] <rasusto> second for calibre
[20:44] <chucknorris> is there a ubuntu how-to channel?
[20:44] <chucknorris> or can i ask questions here?
[20:44] <ciakky> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[20:45] <oszt> Hi
[20:45] <scientes> !ask | chucknorris
[20:45] <esd> hi guys, I want to move back to alsa from oss, but I have the following problem aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found
[20:45] <esd> can someone help?
[20:45] <chucknorris> !patience
[20:45] <Marezz> MirkoKa, DJones, thanks
[20:45] <auronandace> chucknorris: ask away, but don't roundhouse kick anyone
[20:45] <krababbel> _DDG_: Have you tried editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:45] <scientes> esd, you arn't using oss, there is no native support for oss in linux
[20:46] <chucknorris> ill try not to lol
[20:46] <_DDG_> no
[20:46] <_DDG_> thanks for the help but i dont think linux is for me :(
[20:46] <esd> scientes: im not, im moving from oss to alsa, and I have alsa set up, oss removed, and my soundcards do not load under alsa
[20:46] <esd> esd: so i'm asking, what can I do to get it working?
[20:46] <esd> err scientes* :D
[20:46] <scientes> esd, amixer, however ubuntu uses pulseaudio on top of alsa
[20:46] <oszt> I'm running ubuntu 11.10. I'm having trouble getting wine to find various USB devices. Do I need to change some setting for it to do that?
[20:47] <esd> scientes: i had pa with oss as well
[20:47] <escott> oszt, what kind of device
[20:47] <oszt> escott: one is a sansidsk sansa clip + mp3 player
[20:48] <chucknorris> ok so i've been reading Unix & Linix System Administration Handbook, and i came accross a question "Find a list of names (from a telephone directory, perhaps) and use it as the input to a script that forms login names according to the naming convention at your site."
[20:48] <MirkoKa> oszt: Wine's USB support is rudimetary anyway, see http://wiki.winehq.org/USB
[20:48] <chucknorris> How many users can you accomodate before you have a collision? How many collisions are there overall? Use the data to evaluate your site's naming convention, and suggest improvements.
[20:48] <escott> oszt, thats probably usb mass storage so just mount it in linux
[20:48] <oszt> escott the other one is a garmin ant+ stick (connecting garmin gps devices, i.e. my pulse watch, via a radio link)
[20:48] <DeviceZer0> hello all. On 11.10 when I goto the user accounts....i dont have any "advanced" settings in it...is there something I need to do to enable advanced settings there?
[20:49] <oszt> escott, I have mounted it, but cannot see it in the wine explorer.
[20:49] <oszt> MirkoKa, I knew that, but thanks anyway
[20:49] <chucknorris> from what ive read im guessing ill have to use NEWUSERS....but i jus need a few tips on how to get the script started
[20:50] <MirkoKa> oszt: use winecfg to map the mountpoint visible to Wine as a drive letter
[20:51] <zykotick9> oszt: you sansa clip certainly doesn't require wine, or mine doesn't anyways...
[20:52] <oszt> zykotick9, no, but I'm using audible to get audiobooks and need to use their program in order to get their DRM files onto my player
[20:52] <jrib> chucknorris: I don't think that question is really a programming question so much as: come up with a convention for a username from FIRSTNAME LASTNAME (and other info from phonebook I suppose) and then think about your convention.  The programming part is to just create a script that takes in phonebook information and outputs login names.  For example, input "John Doe", output "jdoe"
[20:53] <oszt> MirkoKa, tried that, but no luck so far
[20:53] <MirkoKa> chucknorris: not sure if I understand the assignment, but start by lower-casing the first name (or last name). if there's already a user by that name, add the first (or last) names first char or somthing.
[20:54] <MirkoKa> chucknorris: as jrib said
[20:54] <Blaze> hi everyone
[20:55] <chucknorris> ok
[20:55] <shane2peru> bekks: are you still around?  removing all those kernels broke the wireless on my wife's dell mini, that is why I'm not allowed to touch her computer
[20:55] <escapeplan> Can anyone please tell me what program to use and how to make remote keyboard mouse via Android on ubuntu work ?
[20:55] <chucknorris> ok guys thanks
[20:56] <Tiktalik> yo
[20:56] <Tiktalik> is there any way to batch convert FLAC files to MP3
[20:56] <shane2peru> bekks: I noticed while removing kernels it kept saying stuff like wl.ko was active in this kernel, something about dkms to install module or something like that.  I'm assuming this is a known issue with the broadcom drivers for the wireless of this thing??
[20:57] <abdullahfaqeir> hello
[20:57] <Tiktalik> also, what program should I use to see how much space is taken up by what on my harddrive
[20:58] <bkc_> Tiktalik: python, perl, bash-scripts, basic, etc
[20:58] <abdullahfaqeir> please can anybuddy  help please
[20:58] <EvilResistance> !help | abdullahfaqeir
[20:58] <MirkoKa> oszt: have you tried the Autodetect button?
[20:58] <minimec> Tiktalik: http://www.google.ch/#hl=de&gs_nf=1&pq=sudo%20ifconfig%20eth0%20down&cp=13&gs_id=5qg&xhr=t&q=flac+to+mp3+ubuntu&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=flac+to+mp3+u&aq=0&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=4461e231bb4f858a
[20:58] <shane2peru> anyone know about the dell inspiron 10 that had ubuntu pre-installed 10.04?  removing old kernels seems to have broken the wireless connection
[20:58] <auronandace> abdullahfaqeir: difficult to help when we don't know what's wrong
[20:58] <oszt> MirkoKa, yes. no luck
[20:58] <bkc_> EvilResistance: there is actually a command for that xD
[20:59] <minimec> Tiktalik: For diskspace baobab
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> my ubuntu font color and system setting background are missed up
[20:59] <abdullahfaqeir> the font's are white
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> and the background of sys set are black
[21:00] <EvilResistance> !enter | abdullahfaqeir
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> and the mouse pad has stoped suddnly
[21:00] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:00] <bekks> shane2peru: Thats not a bug, because the module names are the same between kernels.
[21:01] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: are u in graphics-mode (gnome, kde, whatnot) or in terminal-mode ?
[21:01] <abdullahfaqeir> i don't know
[21:01] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, but for some reason the wireless is not loaded, or working
[21:01] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: is there anything but text on the screen?
[21:01] <MirkoKa> oszt: does the drive show up just as normal in nautilus, ie. you don't need some special access program. where is it mounted (under /media) if it differs, can you access the drive as the user with which you start wine?
[21:01] <shane2peru> bekks: I ran 'ifconfig -a' and it only showed eth0 and lo, nothing for wireless
[21:01] <oszt> MirkoKa, does it make a difference if the drive is mounted in linux or not? seem to recall unmounting it in linux some months ago and thus having it show up in wine?
[21:02] <bekks> Still, the names are the same, and the messages just told you, that there were modules built using dkms.
[21:02] <oszt> MirkoKa, no, it automounts and shows up in nautilus
[21:02] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: if it's an ontopic-question please keep it in the channel as others might gain from the answer
[21:02] <oszt> MirkoKa, and yes, I can access it with full permissions as the same user as the one running wine
[21:02] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: "how would I know" => does it look like dos?
[21:02] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> no
[21:03] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, what should be my next step, google pulls up a lot of stuff that is irrelevant
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> it's nice lovely ubuntu
[21:03] <abdullahfaqeir> but just in last day become like this
[21:03] <zsolt> hi there!i formatted accidently an mmc card.what to do to recover?
[21:03] <MirkoKa> oszt: if you tried to configure wine to use the device directly (ie. the USB config mentioned in the link I posted), then that might cause a conflict). remove any wine usb config for that disk and try to accesss it with the mountpoint->drive_letter method
[21:03] <bekks> shane2peru: Uninstall the old kernels you want to be uninstalled.
[21:03] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: then the xserver probably just hung, try pressing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE :)
[21:03] <zsolt> thank you
[21:04] <shane2peru> beaks, ok, I did that, I left all but the last 3 or 4
[21:04] <abdullahfaqeir> it's doing anything
[21:04] <bekks> shane2peru: Now you should have much more space avail, dont you?
[21:04] <zsolt> tryed photorec,but got a really important stuff nad can't recover
[21:04] <zykotick9> bkc_: fyi c+a+backspace hasn't worked by default in a while
[21:04] <shane2peru> bekks: yes, space is great, I think it was something like 64% free for the inodes.
[21:04] <shane2peru> .
[21:05] <abdullahfaqeir> bk_ : ??? it didn't do anything
[21:05] <rasusto> zsolt: I would suggest photorec or testdisc
[21:05] <bekks> shane2peru: Then everything is ok :)
[21:05] <rasusto> zsolt: they come in the same package
[21:05] <shane2peru> bekks: however, it doesn't connect to the web now, I'm on my laptop
[21:05] <bkc_> zykotick9: ....... why the F*** would someone remove that functionality -.-
[21:05] <bekks> shane2peru: Then you removed more than you should.
[21:06] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: ctrl+alt+1 then
[21:06] <abdullahfaqeir> it just moved the window and make it smaller
[21:06] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: and then "sudo service gdm restart" (without the quotes)
[21:06] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:06] <shane2peru> bekks; I don't think I did, I left the latest few kernels I think .37 .38 .39 and .40  however I'm not sure how to see what kernel it is booting off
[21:07] <zsolt> i tryed both,my problem is that got a lot of files
[21:07] <bekks> uname -a tells you which kernel is currently active
[21:07] <abdullahfaqeir> gdm: unrecognized service
[21:07] <zykotick9> bkc_: some accessibility reason actually ;)  how you feel now?  ;)  you can use alt+sysrc+k to restart Xorg
[21:07] <zsolt> i need to recover a password gorilla psafe3 file
[21:07] <oszt> MirkoKa, no, actually I haven't tried the usb patches nor built wine myself recently. at the moment I'm just running the 1.3 version packaged with ubuntu 11.10
[21:07] <zykotick9> s/sysrc/sysrq/
[21:07] <phibxr> abdullahfaqeir, which version are you running? 11.10 and 12.04 will have 'sudo restart lightdm' instead.
[21:07] <abdullahfaqeir> 11.10
[21:07] <zsolt> but got a lot of txt files and elf files
[21:07] <shane2peru> bekks: ok, but how do I select what kernel to boot?
[21:08] <bkc_> zykotick9: I hate ubuntu... seriously... -.-
[21:08] <zykotick9> bkc_: it's not an ubuntu thing - it's an xorg thing
[21:08] <bekks> shane2peru: in the grub menu
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> it's just restarted the desktop
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> please guys help
[21:09] <MirkoKa> oszt: sorry, I don't know further. I suggest you ask the Wine folks
[21:09] <abdullahfaqeir> I love ubuntu and i want to stay on it I don't want to go back to windows
[21:09] <shane2peru> beaks grub menu doesn't show on this, ubuntu was pre-installed, and I haven't messed with it hardly at all.
[21:10] <shane2peru> bekks: ˆˆˆ
[21:10] <oszt> MirkoKa, thank you for your time!
[21:10] <Tiktalik> what's a good music player
[21:10] <shane2peru> bekks: it booted off 2.6.32-41  so I'm thinking I'm going to boot off the old kernel to see if that works, once I figure out how.
[21:10] <oszt> Tiktalik, vlc
[21:10] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: restarting the desktop and still not working only proves that it wasn't hung :) there are still loads to try :P
[21:10] <abdullahfaqeir> ok
[21:11] <SunTsu> Tiktalik: depends on what you call good
[21:11] <abdullahfaqeir> give me every thing just make it work please buddy
[21:12] <minimec> Tiktalik: audacious is a simple and feature rich music player
[21:12] <shane2peru> I can't seem to see the boot menu on this dell inspiron mini with ubuntu pre-installed, anyone know how to do that??
[21:13] <cmon> a dumb question, but where can I see if my ubuntu is 64 bit or 32?
[21:14] <zykotick9> cmon: uname -m
[21:15] <MestreLion> Guys, I shot myself on the foot: removed myself from admin group, so no sudo. There are no other users in sudoers. What is the easiest, pain-free way to recover?
[21:15] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: seeing as my computer only hangs and the mouse actually works from scratch I can't really help you :( but I'd look into the xserver config-files to see if everything checksout okey, otherwise wait for someone else to help you :)
[21:15] <Tiktalik> MestreLion: Cry :P
[21:15] <MirkoKa> shane2peru: /etc/default/grub or /boot/grub/menu.lst depending on your Ubuntu version should have all the settings (probably timeout related)
[21:15] <bekks> MestreLion: Boot a live CD.
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> hi there
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> i need help about VINO on my machine
[21:16] <MestreLion> MirkoKa:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is not used anymore since 9.10
[21:16] <abdullahfaqeir> ok thanks
[21:16] <MestreLion> bekks: ok... and then?
[21:16] <minimec> MestreLion: boot your system in recovery mode and go to the root shell. You should have full root access.
[21:16] <bkc_> abdullahfaqeir: and please for the love of god, please stop with the pm's... unless otherwise stated or told, support-channels *hate* pm's as they are counterproductive to the "support"-idea -.-
[21:16] <jackbrownhf> Is there anybody available to help me about VINO in UBUNTU?
[21:17] <bekks> MestreLion: Follow mimimec and add yourself to the admin group again.
[21:17] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: that's why I said  "depending on your Ubuntu version".  i don't know (perhaps I missed yout post) what version the OP is running ;-)
[21:17] <MestreLion> minimec: and what groups should I add besides admin? do you know the defaults for 1st user in Ubuntu?
[21:17] <ihashacks>  7~
[21:17] <abdullahfaqeir> ok sorry
[21:17] <shane2peru> MirkoKa: yes, that is the old method, I liked that method, I'm not sure about this new grub2 stff
[21:17] <carpediembaby> hi.. just upgraded to 12.04 beta and seeing a problem.. is there another channel for that? or should i fire away ?
[21:17] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: nobudy likes a screamer, and what more specifically do you wanna know about vino?
[21:18] <shane2peru> anyone know how to configure grub2 so I can see my boot menu?  I'm running 10.04 ubuntu LTS
[21:18] <MestreLion> carpediembaby: #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <trism> carpediembaby: #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <MirkoKa> shane2peru: then just look into /etc/default/grub (pastebin it if you need assistance)
[21:18] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: i'm sorry, i just configuret it simply and it says that this machine it's available just from my private lan
[21:18] <bekks> MestreLion: You did more than just removing yourself from the adm group, dont you?
[21:18] <carpediembaby> thanks trism, MestreLion .. had forgotten it :)
[21:18] <bkc_> shane2peru: /etc/grub.d/00_default <-- look for waittime
[21:18] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: now i'm tryng to access it through a bridged virtual machine but i'm unable to do that
[21:18] <minimec> MestreLion: Well... Can't tell you right now... Let me verify that...
[21:19] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: do you have a firewall setup in your machine?
[21:19] <MestreLion> bekks: yes... I wanted to add a new group with usermod -G, and forgot the -a :P (yes, lame mistake, I know)
[21:19] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: yeah and i already put it down
[21:19] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: never shutdown the firewall as there might be lingering settings, open the port instead...
[21:19] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: the firewall is down
[21:19] <shane2peru> bkc_: nope, no 00_default only 00_header 05_debian_theme 10 linux  and a few others
[21:20] <bekks> MestreLion: adm, cdrom, sudo, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, yourusergroup
[21:20] <MestreLion> bekks: so currently I'm only in 2 groups... my user group and the new one I created. All the others have vanished :P
[21:20] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: (shuting down the firewall is for obvious reasons a bad idea, even on private lans)
[21:20] <bkc_> shane2peru: sore, meant 00_header :)
[21:20] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: added 5900 port TCP Allow IN to firewall
[21:20] <MestreLion> bekks: sudo? Isn't it admin anymore?
[21:20] <zykotick9> MestreLion: use usermod recently ;)  -a is append
[21:20] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: (and having no firewall?!?! )
[21:21] <MestreLion> zykotick9: yeah... and I simply forgot the --append... casted usermod --groups only...
[21:21] <bekks> MestreLion: See the comments in /etc/sudoers :)
[21:21] <chucknorris> jrib: could u show me how to use the command which would read the "John Doe" from the input file and output it as "jdoe"?
[21:21] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: try it now, otherwise, ping the computers from both ends and see if they can actually talk to eachother :)
[21:21] <MestreLion> bekks: /etc/sudoers is non-readable for non-sudoers :P
[21:21] <bekks> MestreLion: It is, for root.
[21:22] <bekks> MestreLion: rescue mode, etc ;)
[21:22] <MestreLion> oh, ok
[21:22] <shane2peru> MirkoKa: thanks, I changed that in there
[21:22] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: having no firewall is the same as having it turned of... actually it's the other way around, but that's just semantics anyway :)
[21:22] <shane2peru> MirkoKa: I hate fiddling with those config files in grub2 some are auto-fixed after they are edited by the system
[21:22] <MestreLion> bekks:  adm, cdrom, sudo, dip, plugdev, lpadmin.. ok, got it... this will at least give me some basic functionality, the rest I can configure back in my account
[21:23] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: VM Linux to my machine 4 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.03 ms
[21:23] <jackbrownhf> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=2.70 ms (DUP!)
[21:23] <MestreLion> bekks: and thank you  :)
[21:23] <MirkoKa> shane2peru: yeah, but that's the nice thing about the sometimes comples grub2 config. /etc/defaults/grub doesn't change by an update
[21:23] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: what means 64 bytes from 192.168.1.8: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=6.59 ms (DUP!)
[21:23] <MestreLion> bekks: I'm still using Maverick, so I guess it is still admin here...
[21:23] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: never seen before DUP!
[21:24] <bekks> MestreLion: The functionalities of adm and sudo are different.
[21:24] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: DUP! should imo mean that it got the same package twice... thou not 100% sure :/
[21:24] <bekks> MestreLion: adm allows you to gain root access, sudo allows you to execute a command as root.
[21:24] <SunTsu> jackbrownhf: DUP means duplicate
[21:24] <MAXtEr> hello
[21:24] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: well, now you know that they can talk to each other. have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Troubleshooting ?
[21:24] <MAXtEr> any channel for help a noob
[21:25] <jackbrownhf> SunTsu:  ok got it maybe cos i'm pinging betwen my Computer and a VirtualBox bridged machine
[21:25] <bkc_> !help | MAXtEr
[21:25] <ikonia> MAXtEr: just ask your question
[21:25] <MestreLion> bekks: so adm is for su - only ?
[21:25] <bekks> MestreLion: su has nothing to do with it.
[21:25] <MestreLion> bekks: what would be "gain root access" then?
[21:25] <bekks> get a root shell.
[21:26] <bekks> like sudo -i
[21:26] <MestreLion> bekks: I thought that was su
[21:26] <bekks> (which is not recommended).
[21:26] <zykotick9> MestreLion: in ubuntu admin users are automatically allowed to sudo, but root account is disabled
[21:26] <MirkoKa> chucknorris: there are a thousand methods to do this, you need to learn shell scripting for this. the simple and naive way would be    echo John Doe | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' |  sed 's/ \(.\).*/\1/g'
[21:26] <bekks> MestreLion: then why is there an entry for adm in the /etc/sudoers? ;)
[21:27] <MestreLion> yes, i'm aware of that zykotick9 .. and i think it is a wise decision imho
[21:27] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: troubleshoting doesn't help  just talk about few settings
[21:27] <christhisisgool> l
[21:27] <christhisisgool> sl
[21:27] <christhisisgool> sorry
[21:28] <lvleph> okay here I am again two years working on the same issue.
[21:28] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: have you configured it to accept remote connection? (not only local)
[21:28] <lvleph> For some stupid reason I cannot disable the screensaver
[21:28] <MestreLion> bekks: that's weird... 2 of my regular users ARE in adm group... but not in sudo.. they were created using gnome's GUI
[21:28] <lvleph> and now even worse the lockscreen
[21:28] <christhisisgool> what version of ubuntu are you using, lvleph?
[21:28] <bekks> MestreLion: I never used a graphical solution to create users, I really cant tell about that gnome gui.
[21:29] <lvleph> I am using Mint 9
[21:29] <lvleph> so not technically Ubuntu
[21:29] <MestreLion> bekks: I have 3 "admin-related" groups: adm, admin and sudo (i'm glad I can at least cat /etc/group)
[21:29] <lvleph> but technically not not ubuntu
[21:29] <lvleph> lol
[21:29] <christhisisgool> I believe that is at its end of life now, and this is also an ubuntu irc channel
[21:30] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: yes i did, anyway VINO gui has few preferences to set
[21:30] <MestreLion> lvleph: Min 9 is not EOL, since it's an LTS... but there is a mint irc server...
[21:30] <lvleph> Yeah, the people at Mint weren't able to help me
[21:30] <lvleph> Yeah I know
[21:30] <lvleph> but the problem has been persistent across multiple versions
[21:31] <christhisisgool> oh, sorry MestreLion, i didnt know that it was an LTS
[21:31] <lvleph> so, I suspect even after upgrade I will have the issue
[21:31] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: try "nmap -p5900 <vino-ip>" too see if the port is open :)
[21:31] <MrKeuner> hello, how do I mount a private home directory for my user? That was automatically done when the hard drive it is on was in my computer. Now it's an external disk connected via USB cable...
[21:31] <MestreLion> christhisisgool: int 9 = Lucid 10.04
[21:31] <MestreLion> Mint*
[21:31] <christhisisgool> oh
[21:31] <christhisisgool> makes a lot more sense now
[21:31] <pangolin> !mint
[21:32] <jackbrownhf> bkc_:  ok
[21:32] <spillo> just a question, i need download a video from youtube... no firefox just Chromium.. any other instead of DownloadHelper? tks
[21:32] <bkc_> MrKeuner: should be automagic, however mounting it as /home/<username> is unsupported and illadviced imo :)
[21:32] <boneSphere> any hacker channels?
[21:32] <bkc_> MrKeuner: it should pop-up somewhere in /mount :)
[21:33] <bkc_> boneSphere: define hacker...
[21:33] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: 5900/tcp open  vnc
[21:33] <spillo> ???
[21:33] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: it should work then :/
[21:33] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: of course i launched nmap from the client machine
[21:33] <MestreLion> bekks: let me see if I got this right: adm is for root shells, but since root account is disabled in Ubuntu, adm group is useless, correct? sudo group is the one that allows sudo... what about admin group, what is it for?
[21:33] <jackbrownhf> bkc_: i'm opening the ip on the browser maybe this is the mistake
[21:33] <MrKeuner> bkc_,  it does not get mounted autmatically
[21:33] <jackbrownhf> bkc_:  ??
[21:33] <MirkoKa> MrKeuner: what do you mean with "private home directory", your home shouldn't be non-private anyway. however, you need to edit /etc/fstab. I suggest not to do this. your account might become unusable if it doesn't find any files when the disk isn't connectted. instead, only put your private files it it.
[21:33] <bekks> MestreLion: No.
[21:34] <bekks> MestreLion: ONE of the functionalities of the adm group is to gain root access.
[21:34] <MrKeuner> MirkoKa, bkc_ by private I mean encrypted
[21:34] <bkc_> jackbrownhf: .......... you need a vnc-client like tightvnc or similar to use vnc :)
[21:34] <bkc_> MrKeuner: ooh... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[21:34] <MirkoKa> bekks: isn't "admin" (not adm) used for sudo? that's at least what /etc/sudoers on my 10.04 indicates
[21:34] <MestreLion> bekks: got any reading material for the rationale behind each group? I am quite surprised to see regular users in adm (but they are not in admin or sudo)
[21:34] <jackbrownhf> bkc_:  lol tnx i will install it
[21:35] <MrKeuner> bkc_, that is more for creating an encrpted system, but thanks
[21:36] <bkc_> MrKeuner: actually... it's for creating *and* mounting an encrypted system :)
[21:37] <bekks> MestreLion: No, sorry. I have to google it.
[21:37] <MirkoKa> MrKeuner: I have never tried an encryped home partition, so let me suggest another method: use encfs and its gui front-end cryptkeeper to encrypt only those (data) directories with your sensitive files
[21:38] <MestreLion> bekks: don't bother, I can do that
[21:38] <MAXtEr> alguien que sepa algo de psybnc
[21:38] <MestreLion> MirkoKa / bekks : care to paste the groups YOU guys are in? So I can have a reference?
[21:39] <bekks> MestreLion: I just did ;) Add vboxusers, and you have full list as I am using it :)
[21:39] <mrflibble> hi everyone. i have a question about partial upgrades - recently, when i open update-manager i get a "not all updates can be installed" warning, followed by a "partial upgrade" button. When I choose this, update-manager closes, and no upgrade is performed. any ideas on what i should be checking?
[21:39] <bkc_> MirkoKa: he wasn't refering to his home-folder, he was refering to an encrypted(private) partition :)
[21:40] <MestreLion> bekks: yeah, nice call about vboxusers... I have it installed. what about sambashare ?
[21:40] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: mirko adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare vboxusers
[21:40] <escott> mrflibble, you can try from the cli; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade;
[21:40] <zykotick9> mrflibble: fyi "partial upgrade" basically translates to - "this update is going to break something on your system" - you shouldn't do them.
[21:40] <mrflibble> ok, thanks escott
[21:41] <MestreLion> bekks / MirkoKa: and what version are you using?
[21:41] <mrflibble> zykotick9: oh, but even if u upgrade the rest of the packages, it keeps showing up, but it's not very obvious in what it wants to do
[21:41] <mrflibble> MrKeuner: is truecrypt any good to you?
[21:42] <mrflibble> if you dont want a whole fs encrypted, u can create containers that can be mounted
[21:42] <minimec> MestreLion: I sent you a notice with my /etc/group file. Didn't you get that?
[21:42] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: 10.04 (would be surprised if the "main-user" group (ie. admin v. adm vs. wheel) changed, but who knows
[21:42] <zykotick9> mrflibble: you shouldn't under normal circumstances see partial upgrades.  mixing repos?  fyi, they are common in the development branch and an excellent reason to use "aptitude safe-upgrade"
[21:43] <MestreLion> minimec: no, I didn't... care to re-send?
[21:43] <minimec> MestreLion: Better like that?
[21:43] <MestreLion> got it minimec , thanks
[21:44] <minimec> MestreLion: ok
[21:44] <mrflibble> zykotick9: possibly - i did try to add a repo for some fuse stuff i think
[21:44] <MestreLion> MirkoKa: it did change... for example, you are in admin but not in sudo... bekks is the opposite... and I think "wheel" is kinda recent...
[21:44] <swampthing> does anyone know how I can find out how many cores I have from the terminal?
[21:46] <zykotick9> swampthing: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and see how many "processor : #" entries you have.  (one way)
[21:46] <MestreLion> minimec: and your ubuntu is.. ?
[21:46] <mrflibble> swampthing: top and then "1" ?
[21:46] <wylde> MestreLion: wheel has been around a long time. It was used when I started playing with Debian 17+ years ago.
[21:46] <minimec> MestreLion: That file comes from a upgraded 11.10 -> 12.04
[21:47] <mrflibble> i like zykotick9's way better :)
[21:47] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: in any case, fixing this should be really easy with a LiveCD. regardless of what group is used. what enables me to use sudo is the /etc/sudoers line "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" (without the quotes of course). just adjust it for your notion of the "main-user" group.
[21:47] <MestreLion> man, if only sudo accepted aliases or ~/bin scripts... I would surely forcefully append --append to usermod :P
[21:48] <MestreLion> wylde: so is it deprecated or not used in  ubuntu? I don't even have that group in my /etc/group
[21:48] <bkc_> MestreLion: http://i.imgur.com/AjceU.png
[21:48] <bkc_> ^^
[21:48] <mrflibble> zykotick9: in software sources, i have a few ppa.launchpad.net ones, canonical partners, independent and independent (source code)
[21:49] <wylde> MestreLion: I guess so, or just not used in Ubuntu. I haven;t seen it used in a long time.
[21:49] <zykotick9> mrflibble: well... i have no comment.  good luck.
[21:50] <MestreLion> MirkoKa: yes, I know it wont be too hard... reboot, recovery mode, usermod -a -G <a bunch of groups>, and I'm good. But I want to recreate that list as "faithfully" as possible
[21:50] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: wheel is often used in more traditional Linuxes. Slackware uses it for example (Arch and Gentoo too IIRC)
[21:50] <mrflibble> lol, thanks :)
[21:50] <wylde> MestreLion: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:admin
[21:50] <MestreLion> lol @ bkc_ ... nice :D
[21:51] <bkc_> MestreLion: worst thing is... it works -.-
[21:51] <swampthing> I want to get into web development. should I learn perl for that?
[21:52] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: do I mix threads up here? if you where the one who had removed itself from the <whatever enables sudo> group, then there's no other way as to use LiveCD or recovery mode. ;-)
[21:54] <MestreLion> bkc_: does it? previously i aliased sudo to something like sudo(){ cmd="$1"; shift; type "$cmd">/dev/null && command sudo "$(type -p "$cmd")" "$@"; }, or something like that
[21:54] <MrKeuner> mrflibble, not sure what you ask. While using it I felt safe
[21:55] <MestreLion> MirkoKa: I will use recovery mode...
[21:55] <bkc_> MestreLion: yes it does work :)
[21:55] <mrflibble> swampthing: perl is certainly useful, but php might be an easier intro
[21:56] <swampthing> ah so, cheers
[21:58] <MestreLion> bkc_: what was that -D9 ?
[21:58] <bkc_> MestreLion: no idea, but it works :)
[21:58] <bkc_> try sudo --help | grep -D
[21:58] <MestreLion> bkc_: I guess it is part of the joke... i did man sudo already, there's no -D
[21:59] <bkc_> MestreLion: depends on the version and distro/os :)
[21:59] <MestreLion> anyway, we are getting off-topic... my problem is solved, and  have many "reference lists" to aid me... thanks a lot guys!
[22:00] <MestreLion> question: do recovery mode mount entries in fstab?
[22:01] <bkc_> MestreLion: -D level | Enable debugging of sudo plugins and sudo itself. The level may be a value from 1 through 9.
[22:01] <bkc_> sudo 1.8.4 :)
[22:02] <kingnebex> hallooooow ubuntu people.....
[22:02] <MestreLion> bkc_: weird... i can not even use -V
[22:02] <mrflibble> hi kingnebex
[22:02] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: IIRC, yes. if not and you need to mount try "mount /path/to/moint_point"
[22:03] <kingnebex> wts up mrflibble?
[22:03] <kingnebex> can any i helpme out .....im lookin 3 a site that has multiple and free soft wares 4 ubuntu
[22:03] <MestreLion> great MirkoKa... list is saved in my data partition
[22:03] <MestreLion> time to reboot I guess... thanks for everything guys!
[22:03] <kingnebex> can any i helpme out .....im lookin 4 a site that has multiple and free soft wares 4 ubuntu
[22:04] <kingnebex> any one please......
[22:04] <MestreLion> kingnebex: me too... it's called Software Center... it's amazing, more than 30 THOUSAND software... all for FREE!
[22:04] <ChristopherNg> kingnebex: what is the problem?
[22:04] <MirkoKa> kingnebex: Linux is not Windows. We handle sofware differently. Lean to use the Package Manager (Software Center or System -> Aminstration -> Synaptic)
[22:04] <ozzy_> is 12.04 coming with optional gnome 3 shell
 software center aint enough
[22:05] <MestreLion> kingnebex: you browse, click "install", and bang! new free (and safe) software installed!
[22:05] <ChristopherNg> kingnebex: what are you trying to install?
[22:05] <mrflibble> lol @ MestreLion
[22:05] <zvacet> kingnebex:  is http://www.linuxalt.com/ what you are looking for
 im lookn 4 cool games
[22:06] <ozzy_> is 12.04 coming with optional gnome 3 shell?
[22:06] <ChristopherNg> kingnebex: linux is not the best for cool games
[22:06] <escott> ozzy_, gnome-shell has been available since 11.10
[22:06] <ChristopherNg> i use linux for everything other than gaming.
[22:06] <ChristopherNg> talking of which has anyone ever used steam on linux? without wine?
[22:07] <ozzy_> try some wine and cool windows games
[22:07] <MestreLion> kingnebex: linux is not great for games, although there are some amazing ones at Software Center... and there's also Wine, which runs most windows games perfectly
[22:07] <ChristopherNg> lol@perfectly
[22:07] <bkc_> ChristopherNg: without wine, glhf, it's win/mac only :/
 im nt usin linux....im using ubuntu 11
[22:07] <nklsbjegkljbge> i have 240GB of data I need to move out of the way for a few hours and the only disks available are 2 160GB usb hdds. I don't want to pick manually what file goes on what disk. what is the easiest way to do this? jbod?
[22:07] <MestreLion> oh lord...
[22:07] <ChristopherNg> lol
[22:07] <kingnebex> wine sucks man
[22:07] <ozzy_> i run wow with 15fps on a netbook with atom processor
[22:07] <ChristopherNg> ubuntu = linux
[22:08] <MestreLion> kingnebex: news flash.... Ubuntu is a Linux distro... sorry to dissapoint you
[22:08] <ChristopherNg> haha
[22:08] <ChristopherNg> I think kingnebex is trolling
[22:08] <bkc_> MestreLion: actually... it's a gnu/linux distrobution ;)
[22:08] <escott> nklsbjegkljbge, it would be easier to split the mounts /sdb1 on /media/disk and sdc1 on /media/disk/subfolder
[22:08] <mrflibble> nklsbjegkljbge: you need to be careful with jbod - if u loose one of the drives, u will lose everything
[22:08] <MestreLion> bkc_: very true... it's a GNU/Linux/Gnome distro
[22:09] <bkc_> MestreLion: gnome has nothing to do with it :)
 hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:09] <MestreLion> ChristopherNg: I'm sure he is... there's no other reason to repost a line because he typed "3" instead of "4" when he actually meant "for"
wat do u mean by that?
[22:10] <ozzy_> is 12.04 coming with optional gnome 3 shell
[22:10] <MirkoKa> No, it's a GNU/Linux/Unix/BSD/MIT/X11/whatever-else-I-have-forgotten-to-mention-and-recognize NON-FREE distro. scratch that ;-)
[22:10] <ozzy_> sry repost
[22:10] <escott> ozzy_, YES its in 11.10
[22:10] <MestreLion> but it is fun to relax before entering recovery mode.... takes the stress away after my mess up with groups :P
[22:10] <wylde> !nounity | ozzy_
[22:10] <bkc_> ozzy_: ubuntu 12.04 has unity iirc :)
[22:11] <ozzy_> I HATE UNITY
[22:11] <reader_> hai , how to know the remote login activity on my  ubuntu ?
[22:11] <Firebolt> ozzy_, you don't need to use caps :)
[22:11] <bkc_> ozzy_: your not alone, but please don't yell ^^
[22:11] <imbezol> reader_: type "who"
[22:11] <zvacet> ozzy: you can always switch de
[22:12] <wylde> kingnebex: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
[22:12] <MestreLion> bkc_: it sure does.. if we admit it is fair to include GNU due to the basic software provided, and not name the distro after the kernel alone, would be fair to include the DE too, since it plays a major part in user's life
[22:12] <bkc_> MestreLion: gnu is a hard-dep, gnome isn't :)
[22:12] <ozzy_> its just because unity crashed my ubuntu and i had to reinstall whole system because compiz hates unity too.
[22:12] <MestreLion> bkc_: true
  thanx
[22:13] <imbezol> ozzy_: i'm sure you could have fixed it rather than reinstalled
[22:13] <reader_> imbezol, I mean log file
[22:14] <imbezol> reader_: there's /var/log/auth.log or /var/log/syslog
[22:14] <ozzy_> i ran it from usb disk and i think that was the problem too
[22:16] <Sarrous> Can you recover a external drive? its saying boot sector error.
[22:17] <imbezol> Sarrous: when trying to boot off it? or you're seeing the error somewhere else?
[22:17] <meganerd> Sarrous: it depends on what is wrong with it
[22:17] <bob_> does one have to be concerned with the dns malware thats in the news?
[22:17] <Sarrous> imbezol: when I'm booting off it
[22:18] <imbezol> Sarrous: you could try booting off a recovery or utility type CD so that you can work on it
[22:18] <meganerd> bob_: What DNS malware
[22:18] <imbezol> Sarrous: CD's like the one you can download at partimage.org often have good tools to try to do something with it
[22:18] <Sarrous> meganerd: not sure whats wrong.
[22:18] <meganerd> Sarrous: I am big fan of systemrescuecd as well as the Ubuntu Rescue Remix
[22:18] <Quann_Quan> why is it bad to use the root account?
[22:18] <bob_> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/04/23/hundreds-thousands-may-lose-internet-in-july/
[22:19] <imbezol> Sarrous: you may be able to just fix the boot sector, rewrite the partition table, etc.. depending on what's up with it
[22:19] <Sarrous> imbezol & Meganerd: thanks
[22:19] <bkc_> Quann_Quan: because if you fuck something up by mistake, there's no going back ^^
[22:19] <seeergiu-dev> hello
[22:19] <Quann_Quan> o.o
[22:19] <seeergiu-dev> can anyone please say, what date is today?
[22:19] <imbezol> Sarrous: if it's more serious.. there are tools like ddrescue to try to copy the disk to a file which you can then do recovery operations on but that gets a bit advanced
[22:19] <zvacet> Quann_Quan:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:19] <Quann_Quan> how do i make a new account?
[22:19] <escott> Quann_Quan, it reduces your security model to that of windows 95
[22:20] <meganerd> or XP
[22:20] <Guest2302> seeergiu-dev: april 23rd?
[22:20] <ProfessorBacon> yeah but who makes payloads for windows 95??
[22:20] <Sarrous> imbezol: if it comes to it i'll restall refresh.
[22:20] <bkc_> meganerd: of win7 :/
[22:20] <Quann_Quan> oh haha sorry for the nooby question i just got linux
[22:20] <meganerd> bkc_: win7 actually gets it mostly right, better than Linux
[22:20] <reader> imbezol, when I typed 'who  -a'  it shows LOGIN tty4 tty5 tty3 .... and all what is that means ? is anyone logged in tty4, tty5 etc
[22:20] <pangolin> bkc_: Please, no swearing in here
[22:20] <meganerd> Quann_Quan: it is a valid question
[22:21] <bkc_> meganerd: I'd like to have a discussion about that topic, but it's offtopic in here ;)
[22:21] <bkc_> pangolin: sorry, my bad :(
[22:21] <imbezol> reader: tty is usually your local sessions. try this: 'ps fauxw | grep tty4'
[22:21] <meganerd> Quann_Quan: the news rarely understands what is going on, so it can be challenging to properly assess your own risk
[22:21] <imbezol> reader: that will show you the username and the process that's creating that login instance
[22:21] <meganerd> bkc_: not enough time for that OT today :)
[22:22] <zvacet> Quann_Quan: click on dash and type users accounts and there you can create new user
[22:22] <imbezol> reader: if the process is something like ssh, then it's remote
[22:22] <bkc_> reader: ctrl+alt+f1->f7 has tty's connected to them :)
[22:22] <Quann_Quan> assess at my own risk?
[22:23] <meganerd> Quann_Quan: when something hits the news it is usually big, from that you assess your own risk.  This is really OT here.
[22:23] <bkc_> Quann_Quan: it's fox-news... they lie :)
[22:24] <reader> imbezol, It shows " root      1010  0.0  0.0   1976   456 tty4     Ss+  01:00   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4" but I'am logged in as another user ! ?
[22:25] <imbezol> reader: that's because the getty process is running as root. when you log into it, it switches to the username that's logged in
[22:25] <zvacet> bkc_ : or fbi invited us to visit their web site clever guys  :)
[22:25] <imbezol> reader: if you do just "ps fauxw" then look you'll see the process "hanging" off that getty
[22:25] <escott> reader, getty just waits on the ttys to run the login application. thats normal
[22:25] <bkc_> zvacet: ^^
[22:26] <reader> imbezol, escott,bkc_, thanks!
[22:26] <zvacet> bkc_ : nice try isn´t it  ;)
[22:26] <bkc_> zvacet: indeed it is, but futile I tell you, futile... :)
[22:27] <zvacet> bkc_ : yes bur we are ot now so that is it back to support
[22:28] <MestreLion> wow guys, while researching for the rationale behind each group, look at what i've found: http://localhost:631  amazing!!! :D
[22:28] <bkc_> zvacet: not that many questions atm so going a bit OT shouldn't be a problem ^^
[22:29] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: you know what localhost is, don't you? ;-)
[22:29] <reader> imbezol,  One more problem , every time I try to connect  xchat  the network manager got restarted why it is restarting every time ? is there any Suspicious process running that?
[22:29] <MestreLion> how come I've never stumbled on this before? ok, ok, if this is obvious old news, sorry... but i never knew cups had a web interface
[22:29] <zvacet> bkc_ : I see but there is channel for that kind  of talk
[22:29] <MestreLion> yes MirkoKa.. and I'm amazed it enables a web admin interface by default
[22:30] <mint> tekno909
[22:31] <MestreLion> I guess lpadmin is more than justified :P
[22:31] <MirkoKa> MestreLion: it's just a CUPS thing. CUPS installs a web-server for the config. has nothing to do with user groups.
[22:31] <HelenB> Kubuntu wont answer my question but I want to know why things like websites, videos and music and pictures make my CPU go high on my netbook no matter what software I use to load them. I use Kubuntu 12 and my CPU shoots upto 90%.
[22:32] <reader> bkc_,  One more problem , every time I try to connect  xchat  the network manager got restarted why it is restarting every time ? is there any Suspicious process running that?
[22:32] <MestreLion> MirkoKa: it is tied to the lpadmin... you can't change settings in that web interface unless you are in lpadmin
[22:32] <HelenB> I can play music fine but if I load something like a webpage up my CPU will go high.
[22:32] <bkc_> reader: xchat works fine on my computer w/ nm. I'd look elsewhere :)
[22:32] <HelenB> I have a Dell Inspiron 1011
[22:32] <MestreLion> HelenB: flash perhaps?
[22:32] <HelenB> MestreLion, no
[22:33] <HelenB> All I want is for my CPU to STOP going high!
 u r a realy funny guy
[22:33] <reader> bkc_, I mean is there any other program restarting it ?
[22:33] <MirkoKa> HelenB: which browser? what plugins/addons? how many  tabs?
[22:34] <HelenB> MirkoKa, chromium but firefox and other web browsers have the same effect.
[22:34] <HelenB> This isn't just web browsers it's media players too
[22:34] <bkc_> reader: no idea, don't have your logs ^^
[22:34] <HelenB> and image viewers
[22:35] <Sarrous> HelenB: what site you looking at or is it all sites
[22:35] <bkc_> HelenB: what desktop-manager are you using?
[22:35] <bkc_> Sarrous: it's not just websites, it's *everything*
[22:35] <Sarrous> bkc ah right
[22:35] <HelenB> Sarrous, Most sites.
[22:35] <pangolin> HelenB: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <bogen> thanks, you guys solved my problem, and it wast nothing you said
[22:35] <reader> bkc_, can u guide me to how to check those process in ubuntu
[22:35] <NurseDad> after installiing the PPA for ubuntu -tweak how do I install the program
[22:35] <HelenB> bkc_, Obviously KDE.
[22:36] <MirkoKa> HelenB: does it happen for everything which is somehow "graphically" intense?
[22:36] <bkc_> HelenB: that computer will never be able to run kde ^^ it will be slow as f*
[22:36] <reader> NurseDad, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install
[22:36] <HelenB> bkc_, It runs KDE fine.
[22:36] <NurseDad> tks
[22:36] <HelenB> it's fast
[22:36] <HelenB> the cpu is at 10%
[22:37] <bkc_> HelenB: and then you start something ^^
[22:37] <HelenB> but when i open up a media file/webpage it shoots up to 100%
[22:37] <bkc_> ntfs-partition?
[22:37] <HelenB> So it's NOT KDE! lol
[22:37] <pangolin> it is off topic and I am going to remove you if you don't move this to #ubuntu+1 right now.
[22:37] <HelenB> no ext3
[22:37] <reader> NurseDad, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-tweek
[22:37] <bkc_> pangolin: what's off-topic?
[22:37] <HelenB> pangolin, fine
[22:37] <NurseDad> reader thank you
[22:38] <pangolin> HelenB: thank you.. bkc_ 12.04 the dev release is not supported in this channel until it is released
[22:38] <wylde> kingnebex: how so? Seemed to me you wanted an explanation of the term.
[22:38] <bkc_> pangolin: sorry, missed that she said kubuntu 12 :/
[22:39] <MirkoKa> could have been said a little less agressive
[22:41] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to make shift+numpad1 = "highlight everything until the end of the line" instead of 1 ?
[22:41] <craigbass1976> Sorry... On a laptop keyboard
[22:43] <auvajs> hello I try to install Ubuntu on a brand new laptop with just FreeDos preinstalled. but the live cd crashes after start.. strange screen shows up.. I have a video of it if you are insterested..
[22:44] <bkc_> auvajs: link to video?
[22:44] <escott> !nomodeset | auvajs
[22:44] <auvajs> bkc_: http://www.uloz.to/xMsxM9W/img-0004-mp4
[22:45] <bkc_> auvajs: one that doesn't involde 100k registrations ^^
[22:45] <auvajs> bkc_: you can download it for free just type the captcha letters
[22:46] <keshix> quit
[22:46] <bkc_> auvajs: and that would be "Stàhnout" ?
[22:46] <auvajs> bkc_: stahnout means download. but I uploaded it to youtube so wait till it processes
[22:47] <auvajs> bkc_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdGzDDrDU7s&feature=youtu.be does it already work?
[22:48] <bkc_> auvajs: yes
[22:48] <auvajs> bkc_: very strange screen.. no idea.. it
[22:48] <bkc_> auvajs: that's the graphics-mode :)
[22:49] <auvajs> it's ubuntu-12.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso but I have the same result with ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso too
[22:49] <bkc_> auvajs: take it to #ubuntu+1 as they probably know more about it :)
[22:50] <jey> is there some place I can download the vmlinuz file for a stock Ubuntu kernel? i.e. the uncompressed kernel binary that has all the symbols still in it
[22:50] <jey> i mean vmlinux, not vmlinuz
[22:51] <bkc_> jey: why would you want that? :P
[22:51] <wylde> !kernal | jey
[22:51] <jey> bkc_, so I can profile my kernel using oprofile
[22:52] <wylde> !kernel | jey
[22:52] <MirkoKa> auvajs: no answer, but google for "lenovo prefix set". it seems that there's a 64bit v.s 32bit issue
[22:54] <iHarp> hey guys
[22:55] <iHarp> Question: How can I make my kernel aware of a new video driver that I have downloaded without screwing anything up.?
[22:55] <iHarp> I understand that it isn't as easy as copy paste.
[22:55] <bkc_> what driver?
[22:56] <jey> specifically when I profile my system when it slows down i see that 40% of the time is spent in the kernel, so I want to see if I have some bad  driver or something
[22:56] <jey> that is, profiling with oprofile
[22:56] <Steevca> When i opet dash home,and when i click to view all installed apps,and try to scroll down i get some "lag" after the third scroll.
[22:57] <iHarp> bkc_: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1
[22:57] <bkc_> iHarp: just run the installer :)
[22:57] <bkc_> but really... 177 :/
[22:57] <iHarp> cool. thanks
[22:57] <jey> seems there's a ddebs repo with the debug symbols, I'll try that
[22:57] <szal> 177?
[22:57] <iHarp> bkc_: What's wrong with 177?
[22:57] <bkc_> iHarp: I'd suggest installing the latest driver (295.40) as it is more stable and less memory-hungry :)
[22:58] <szal> did they update the 173?
[22:58] <bkc_> ooh... legacy... nm...
[22:58] <bkc_> iHarp: 195 is the latest legacy iirc
[22:58] <iHarp> Sweet. I'll check it out. thanks for the input.
[22:59] <bencc> what does this means in a package? is it unstable? crtmpserver (0.0~dfsg+svn611.1-2) http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/crtmpserver
[22:59] <bencc> what is 0.0~dfsg
[22:59] <EvilResistance> bencc:  might ask the devs of that package
[23:00] <jey> the kernel debug symbols package is 639 mb?! wow
[23:00] <bencc> EvilResistance: I thought it might be a naming convention dfsg
[23:01] <MirkoKa> bencc: version numbers are so absolutely and highly project and even developer dependent that it is impossible to have a general convention. ask the developers
[23:01] <sarahS> I'm trying to set up a virtual host on ubuntu 11.10, and for some reason, my virtual hosts seem to be getting Options -Indexes directives from "somewhere else."  That somewhere else is not apache2.conf or sites-enabled/000-default.  Does anybody here have any insight to share?
[23:01] <Annie> Hello! I need some help: Cannot login after installing the 12.04 beta
[23:01] <jrib> !precise | Annie
[23:01] <iHarp> bkc_: (195.36.24 Certified) Sound good?
[23:03] <Annie> jrib well unity is not installed and whatever wm i try to use from the logonscreen it just flashes some text and send me back to the logon screen..
[23:03] <iris> I have a questionn
[23:03] <jrib> Annie: support for 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1 until final release
[23:03] <iris> Does Wubi causee Ubuntu to be really slow?
[23:03] <iris> Or is it just my dual boot crappy Dell.
[23:03] <escott> iris, wubi will be slower
[23:04] <iris> Ok So how do I uninstall it?
[23:04] <iris> from WIndows.
[23:04] <iris> *Windows.
[23:04] <bkc_> iris: iirc wubi loopback-mounts a ext3-fs from a ntfs-partition... in what way will that not be slow ^^
[23:04] <iris> bkc what the bloody hell does that mean.
[23:05] <MirkoKa> IME, wubi wan't all *that* slow. slower yes, but not that much that it affected normal operation.
[23:05] <iris> Excuse my language, I was told to come here from ##NewBoston where swearing is moderatel allowed.
[23:05] <bkc_> iris: that means it's going to be slow as fudge ^^
[23:05] <iris> Software center crashes all the time.
[23:05] <iris> So does Chromium.
[23:05] <escott> iris, some people do manage to use wubi so they must find it fast enough, so your hardware might just be slow to begin with, but wubi will be slower than running directly on the disk
[23:06] <MirkoKa> iris: to uninstalling wubi should work similar to uninstalling every window app IIRC
[23:06] <iris> So how do I delete it? I have a CD.
[23:06] <iris> I don't have to uninstll partitions?
[23:06] <escott> iris, i think you just delete the wubi folder and uninstall the wubi application
[23:06] <bkc_> iris: it's just like installing MS office ^^
[23:06] <iris> Just the program file?
[23:06] <bkc_> escott: no!
[23:06] <escott> iris, there is no partition
[23:07] <iris> So, how would I remove the partition?
[23:07] <bkc_> add/remove programs
[23:07] <christhisisgool> to uninstall wubi, you just do it like any other app
[23:07] <christhisisgool> in windows
[23:07] <bkc_> what he said
[23:07] <bkc_> ^
[23:07] <iris> Uninstall Wubi, but will it show up to install either?
[23:07] <iris> I mean select when you boot?
[23:07] <christhisisgool> please be clearer on what you mean
[23:08] <chull2058> how do I locate Ubuntu files I have downloaded while on Ubuntu, through windows if I am using Windows at that time?
[23:08] <MirkoKa> iris: wubi doesn't create a partition, that's the whole point of it. just remove it using Start -> Control -> Software
[23:08] <iris> The dual boot screen.
[23:08] <iris> Okay. Thanks.
[23:08] <iris> That was helpful.
[23:08] <gateway2006> Hello, I am new to all of this - I don't know if I am using the correct channel -  but hope you can recommend the correct channel or a solution.  I have installed 11.10 and it works great - except that it does not recognize my Marvell 88E8057 wireless card - the card works when using XP.  nm-tool shows that the driver (sky)is there but unavailable. Can someone suggest the next step in troubleshooting?  Marvell does offer a Lin
[23:08] <iris> Now should I install using my 11.04 disk or make a 12.04 disk.
[23:09] <christhisisgool> oh, if you uninstall the wubi from add remove programs then the boot screen will automatically go away
[23:09] <iris> Okay, thanks.
[23:09] <iris> What I wanted to know..
[23:09] <hypershock> gateway2006: have tried searching google for "ubuntu 11.10 marvel"?
[23:09] <iris> Not very good with partitions.
[23:09] <wangor> how to start a server/service just after reboot on an ubuntu server? is placing a .conf file in /etc/init/ the only way to go? seems to me my web server starts even though I can't find it there
[23:09] <iris> Do any of you code?
[23:09] <gateway2006> not yet - but will do it!
[23:09] <christhisisgool> iris: probably want to go with 12.04, which is due to be released sometime soon ( think its the 26th) rather than a version that is almost dead.
[23:10] <iris> Ok.
[23:10] <christhisisgool> iris: if bash counts, then yes! if not, then i guess i have some experience with html and c++
[23:10] <christhisisgool> but nothing major
[23:10] <iris> Should I wait till Thursday or do the beta? And it is the 26.
[23:10] <christhisisgool> i would wait until thursday
[23:10] <christhisisgool> just to make sure its stable
[23:11] <MirkoKa> chull2058: either use a program like http://www.fs-driver.org/ or better, boot ubuntu and copy/move the files to a windows partition. then, to prevent further trouble, change your ubuntu download location to a windows drive
[23:11] <chull2058> Ok thanks MirkoKa
[23:12] <iris> I do Java, and am learning C/++/ASM. I plan too learn Python before I turn 15 though.
[23:12] <iris> Thanks everybody for the help.
[23:12] <iHarp> How to properly shutdown an X server?
[23:12] <hypershock> chull2058: to save time, when you are in ubuntu, you could mount your windows partition, and then link over the directories you need access too. That way you can put all of your downloads, docs, music etc into a common folder between both operating systems.
[23:13] <escott> iHarp, sudo service lightdm stop
[23:13] <iHarp> ty
[23:13] <iris> So is anyone here >=13?
[23:13] <christhisisgool> iris: what do you mean?
[23:13] <iris> I mean <=13.
[23:13] <iris> Under or equal to 13.
[23:13] <hypershock> iris: are you 13?
[23:13] <christhisisgool> in age?
[23:13] <iris> Yeah.
[23:13] <iris> 12 actually.
[23:13] <christhisisgool> oh, well im a year older than that
[23:13] <iris> In 2.5 months I am 13.
[23:13] <christhisisgool> or not
[23:13] <christhisisgool> 14
[23:14] <chull2058> hypershock, Great Idea - Thanks!
[23:14] <hypershock> yeah, we were all 13 at one time.
[23:14] <MirkoKa> iris: that is offtopic here. but age doesn't count. turned 36 on sunday ;-)
[23:14] <iris> Well currently.
[23:14] <iris> Sorry just curious.
[23:14] <chull2058> ugh I turn the big 40 in July :(
[23:14] <christhisisgool> how do you shutdown a x server if you are using something other than lightdm?
[23:15] <hypershock> chull2058: that's nothing, wait until your teeth fall out.
[23:15] <christhisisgool> such as gdm?
[23:15] <meganerd> christhisisgool: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:15] <meganerd> christhisisgool: or kdm
[23:15] <chull2058> haha, you are right about that.
[23:15] <christhisisgool> thanks
[23:15] <iris> Bye Ubuntu enthusiasts, thank you for your help.
[23:16] <yamal> hola
[23:16] <hypershock> christhisisgool: btw, hitting ctrl alt del, your ubuntu system will pick that up and restart everything for you too.
[23:16] <yamal> algun español?
[23:16] <mrflibble> thanks guys, time for me to go
[23:16] <MirkoKa> !es | yamal
[23:16] <christhisisgool> i wasnt looking to restart the whole system, just log out of a x server that was started from a command line
[23:16] <linuxjones> hello all, i am pretty new to linux and have run into a problem, i have had this laptop for quite some time, and have had everything running fine, well i havent started it for a while so yesterday i booted her up and had some updates to install, so i installed them and played around with some stuff, and when i got home from work today i booted it up and now i only have read access to everything in my own home folder, are there any kn
[23:16] <linuxjones> own issues leading to this or did i mess something up?
[23:16] <easytiger> can one add a sudo option so a user can only install packages? or is there a group for it
[23:16] <escott> hypershock, nozap has been set in xorg for a while now
[23:16] <wangor> help, how to start services/servers just after reboot? is /etc/init the only way to go? seems to me my web server isn't there, yet it does start after reboot.
[23:17] <yamal> no puedo instalar paquetes x86 en mi ordenador que tiene ubuntux86 alguien me lo explica? en el ubuntu software center me dice que error de arquitectura
[23:17] <christhisisgool> linuxjones: try to log in as root and then change all of the permissions that way
[23:17] <hypershock> escott: really, cause I have no problem rebooting my system by hitting that combo using 11.10
[23:17] <christhisisgool> by typing in sudo su
[23:17] <christhisisgool> then nautilus
[23:17] <christhisisgool> in the terminal
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[23:18] <MirkoKa> wangor: see chkconfig
[23:18] <hypershock> escott: yeah, just tried it, it intercepts and asks me what to do, with a timer, and if i don't respond, it continues with the reboot.
[23:18] <escott> hypershock, ahh sorry thought you said ctrl-alt-backspace
[23:18] <christhisisgool> oops thought for a moment that this would take html
[23:18] <wangor> thanks
[23:18] <hypershock> escott: aye and that explains why that don't work, so i learned something today. :)
[23:19] <wylde> christhisisgool: that's not the recommended way to get root in ubuntu. 'sudo -i' will do it.
[23:19] <unfreenode> hello
[23:19] <linuxjones> christhisisgool, well in the permissions tab of the properties it says i have read & write but i dont, delete is greyed out and everything
[23:19] <hypershock> christhisisgool: if you want to do stuff like that use pastebin and send the channel the link.
[23:19] <linuxjones> christhisisgool, will that make a difference?
[23:20] <escott> christhisisgool, if you startx then you close your last xterm or if you have a session manager then you close that and x closes
[23:20] <iHarp> help!
[23:20] <iHarp> sorry. wrong chat
[23:21] <christhisisgool> ok thanks guys.
[23:21] <christhisisgool> oh, and linuxjones, no it shouldnt matter whether you use that or not
[23:23] <keithisit> Ex-Chat
[23:23]  * hypershock notes that when you think this is better than cybering, the you might be a geek!
[23:38] <linuxjones> im back! this may be a dumb question, but is there a way to restore my computer to a fresh install of ubuntu without actually reinstalling?
[23:39] <bkc_> linuxjones: not that I know of, that would be to purge everything and the reinstalling them again :)
[23:39] <simplew> can i install kde in ubuntu?
[23:40] <quetzal> simplew: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:41] <linuxjones> ok thank you
[23:43] <KommaH> Hey everyone.
[23:43] <KommaH> Is there a /var/log that contains segfaults?
[23:45] <MirkoKa> KommaH: no. segfaults are immediate and critical failures of a process, unless there is some monitoring process there is no chance to catch and log a segfault. what problem are you facing
[23:45] <KommaH> MirkoKa: Ah, just trying to help a developer debug a sneaky bug.
[23:45] <KommaH> Application quits with no error whatsoever. We think it might be due to a segfault.
[23:47] <KommaH> Well, anyways, thanks for the help. We'll probably wind up using gdb. Just wondering if there was a shortcut.
[23:47] <skel> KommaH: have you tried running it in strace?
[23:47] <KommaH> Ta-ta for now.
[23:47] <KommaH> Hm? Never used strace before.
[23:47] <MirkoKa> KommaH: segfaults should be reported to stderr. if there is nor error message at all, then either it's no segfault, or the program behaves really, really, bad. strace, ltrace or a debugger should help
[23:48] <KommaH> Thanks so much for the helpful advice. Props to MirkoKa and skel!
[23:50] <Sedativ> hello
[23:50] <Sedativ> can anyone help me, I'm ina bit of a jam
[23:51] <daftykins> !ask | Sedativ
[23:52] <Sedativ> I have a problem with my ISP ... I have to change my IP address on one of my servers as fast as possible, and change it in Apache and Bind as well ... can anyone give me some advice?
[23:52] <milamber> Sedativ: gnudip
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> Sedativ: whats the problem you have?
[23:54] <simplew> why do is needed 13o mb to install konversation???
[23:54] <Sedativ> well first I need to add a subnet to my router ... I have bought the ips since last year but ... I can't manage to set them up on my router ... and then I need to figure out a way to change the ip on my server wihtout any down time
[23:54] <simplew> why do is needed 130 mb to install konversation???
[23:55] <daftykins> simplew: KDE program, so it needs all the KDE libraries
[23:55] <christhisisgool> simplew: programs take up space
[23:55] <christhisisgool> and what he said ^
[23:55] <bkc_> daftykins: It's not kde, it's Qt :)
[23:55] <simplew> it did NOT showed, told me that what packages were neeeded to install, neither asked me if i wanted to install any needed packages,  what packae management tool is this???
[23:56] <MirkoKa> simplew: because it's a KDE program and Ubuntu ships only with Gnome by default, so you need to install the basic QT/KDE libs too
[23:56] <bkc_> simplew: it's a simple one...
[23:56] <simplew> It did not told me nothing!!!
[23:56] <simplew> it did not asked me nothing!!!
[23:56] <daftykins> bkc_: baaaaah. what's the distinction?
[23:56] <simplew> the distintion?!? well i would prefer not to install if it neded all those packages!!!
[23:56] <bkc_> Qt == graphics-lib, KDE = Desktop-manager :)
[23:56] <christhisisgool>  the purpose of a package managment tool is to make sure that you have all the dependencies without having to go and find them yourlself.
[23:57] <meganerd> simplew: what did you use to install the package?
[23:57] <christhisisgool> so, if you would rather hunt down all of the deps yourself, then you can go without package management
[23:57] <simplew> so far all the package management tools asked me if i wanted to continue with the isntalation where there was more packages to install, in which this is clrearly not the case
[23:57] <simplew> what a crpa
[23:57] <simplew> crap*
[23:58] <dniMretsaM> simplew: what program did you use?
[23:58] <meganerd> simplew: don't blame the tool...
[23:58] <simplew> im using ubuntu app to manage packages
[23:58] <simplew> named: Ubuntu Software Management
[23:58] <meganerd> simplew: if you want finer grained control, you can use apt-get or aptitude
[23:58] <MirkoKa> simplew: personal opinion: don't use the software center. it's broken in so many ways. use Synaptic.
[23:58] <Sedativ> could someone please prv me for my problem? I'm having trouble following this chat
[23:58] <christhisisgool> agreed with mirkoka
[23:58] <simplew> MirkoKa: yes its a crap
[23:59] <simplew> it should always ask user to continue the isntalation or not
[23:59] <meganerd> simplew: MirkoKa works fine for most people I know
[23:59] <meganerd> simplew: really?  It should?
[23:59] <simplew> yes it should
[23:59] <simplew> a normal manager would
[23:59] <simplew> so far all the ones i used did asked
[23:59] <meganerd> simplew: for me perhaps, but this is perhaps not the best approach for everyone
[23:59] <simplew> ALWAYS