| ailo | len-dt: I think it would be great if you're able to create a clear case of xruns due to IRQ sharing, and see whether the rtirq srcript helps or not | 04:27 |
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| ailo | I should try to do that as well | 04:28 |
| len-dt | ailo, sounds like work... | 04:28 |
| len-dt | I don't know If I can force sharing. | 04:28 |
| len-dt | The only slot that shares is the one that shares with usb which I don't use. | 04:29 |
| ailo | So, you were having issues only because of the IRQ number being too high | 04:30 |
| len-dt | ailo, I very definately had xruns when downloading software when the NIC was using int 23 | 04:30 |
| ailo | I still think something must be causing the problem, something at a lower number maybe | 04:31 |
| ailo | NIC? | 04:31 |
| len-dt | network interface card | 04:31 |
| ailo | Someone should make a hack to the kernel that makes these IRQ problems go away :) | 04:32 |
| ailo | len-dt: At least it would be interesting to see the difference for you, with or without the rtirq script | 04:33 |
| len-dt | ailo, not sure what happened. Mouse vanished and things froze. | 04:34 |
| ailo | len-dt: If you could set the NIC card back where it was, and try with/withoutrtirq script | 04:35 |
| ailo | I will try to duplicate your problem | 04:35 |
| ailo | I have a wifi card I can use | 04:35 |
| len-dt | ailo. ok, it will have to be another day. | 04:35 |
| ailo | len-dt: Also, it might be interesting to test the -realtime kernel as well, in aboganis repo | 04:37 |
| len-dt | The ensoniq messed with things when it was higher too... even having the module loaded first seemed to make a difference. | 04:37 |
| ailo | If the -realtime is better at solving this irq problem, than it would be bad news I think | 04:37 |
| len-dt | The RT kernel might give me better -p 32 stuff... | 04:38 |
| ailo | If the -realtime is slightly better in general, then I think it's no problem | 04:38 |
| len-dt | -p 64 seems to be pretty stable even with PA-jack running. | 04:39 |
| ailo | But, if it's clearly better at this IRQ stuff, than -lowlatency will be much more limited | 04:39 |
| ailo | -p 64 is a good lower limit I think, for the larger mass | 04:40 |
| len-dt | I have found that PA starts to use a lot of cpu as Jack's latency goes down | 04:40 |
| ailo | Yes, but I don't think it causes any performance issues. | 04:41 |
| len-dt | But if I unload the jacksink module pulse seems to use next to nothing. | 04:41 |
| ailo | I mean, it doesn't result in any audio drop outs. For people who want to limit their CPU, it will happen only when they are using loads of resource demanding realtime audio processing software | 04:43 |
| ailo | Advanced reverbs, that sort of thing | 04:43 |
| len-dt | I don't really know what the boundaries are. Synths use up resources pretty quick too. I found just playing too many notes at the wrong time took cpu to 100% and gave dropouts. I haven't really tried that since I moved cards though. | 04:45 |
| ailo | That sounds bad. | 04:46 |
| ailo | I have very limited experience in various soft synths | 04:46 |
| len-dt | Well my son (6yrs) was basically leaning on the keyboard :-) | 04:46 |
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| scott-work | i see the studio images are being rebuilt and an "test the official RC" email went out | 14:21 |
| acmeinc | Is anyone else noticing the xfce4 menu lacks an icon for Accessories and Internet? | 19:18 |
| len-dt | acmeinc1, and some others we don't have apps for. (education) | 19:30 |
| scott-work | acmeinc1: is this a problem in today's iso image? | 20:27 |
| * scott-work believes we have had icons for these menus in previous images, or would be very surprised if we didn't notice this before | 20:27 | |
| len-nb | scott-work There are icons but they are default not menu item specific. | 21:04 |
| len-nb | It is easy to miss, The default looks ok for accessories, but not for network. | 21:05 |
| len-dt | scott-work xfce-accessories.directory lists the icon as applications-accessories. a search of the /usr/share tree for *accessories* gets nothing. | 21:21 |
| scott-work | len-dt: sorry if i'm slow on this, did something change some where along the line or has this been the behaviour for a while? | 21:21 |
| len-dt | could have been for a while. because there is an icon showing it is not obvious. could be an xfce problem. I'm still looking. Just figured out I did the search wrong. | 21:23 |
| len-dt | Hmm. there are icons. | 21:24 |
| len-dt | scott-work, what icon theme are we using? | 21:25 |
| astraljava | greybird? | 21:25 |
| len-dt | astraljava, nope, not in the list. | 21:27 |
| len-dt | elementry Xfce dark | 21:28 |
| astraljava | Ahh yeah. Sorry, I mixed the things up. | 21:29 |
| len-dt | Not much in there. Where does it default to for icons missing from the theme? | 21:29 |
| astraljava | I have absolutely no idea. I have sort of relied on others for appearance issues, | 21:31 |
| len-dt | elementary-xfce has them. | 21:32 |
| astraljava | len-dt: You will want to talk to ochosi on these matters. (better reachable on #xubuntu-devel) | 21:33 |
| len-dt | astraljava, elementary does not either and that should be the fall back. | 21:34 |
| len-dt | I think we were using the xfce one before. | 21:34 |
| * len-dt has to pick up son from skool | 21:34 | |
| astraljava | Could be. Like I said, I have zero clues on such matters. | 21:35 |
| scott-work | leaving work now | 21:40 |
| len-dt | astraljava, there is an index.theme in the elementary-xfce-dark directory. It says that it Inherits=elementary-xfce | 22:02 |
| len-dt | and elementary-xfce says Inherits=gnome,hicolor | 22:03 |
| len-dt | elementary-xfce has the icon we need... why doesn't it show? | 22:05 |
| len-dt | I wonder if size matters. | 22:07 |
| len-dt | hicolor is supposed to be the falback theme, but it has no icons in catagoies at all. | 22:13 |
| len-dt | ScottL, when you get home... I found it. In our menu file we include Utility.directory instead of xfce-accessories.directory, Education.directory instead of xfce-education.directory, Network.directory instead of xfce-network.directory, GnomeScience.directory has no equivalent. | 22:33 |
| len-dt | Probably... not sure, the science section could be eliminated. If the user installs a science program it would show as "other". | 22:36 |
| ScottL | len-dt, good work! | 22:38 |
| len-dt | I think we lost them when we cleaned up some of the gnome stuff. It used to be there. | 22:38 |
| ScottL | maybe micahg could advise if this can be handled before release or should resolved after with an SRU | 22:38 |
| len-dt | In any case the other bugs with the same file should be fixed at the same time. | 22:39 |
| * len-dt means other obvious bugs. | 22:42 | |
| len-dt | other being zynjacku moved to synths frrom effects and xfce-mixer and mudita execpted from multi-media. | 22:48 |
| len-dt | ScottL, I have a fixed file, can I send it to you? | 23:11 |
| len-dt | The file is tested and works. | 23:13 |
| ScottL | i'm trying to save it locally | 23:25 |
| ScottL | len-dt, can you try it again please | 23:26 |
| ScottL | okay, i said accepted and hit the save button so hope this works | 23:27 |
| len-dt | I am not seeing progress. | 23:28 |
| len-dt | I may have to email. | 23:28 |
| len-dt | It timed out. | 23:30 |
| len-dt | ScottL, the gmail account ok? | 23:33 |
| len-dt | ScottL, sent it your email at gmail. I am not sure what went wrong with the transfer, but it timed out. | 23:39 |
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