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ailolen-dt: I think it would be great if you're able to create a clear case of xruns due to IRQ sharing, and see whether the rtirq srcript helps or not04:27
ailoI should try to do that as well04:28
len-dtailo, sounds like work... 04:28
len-dtI don't know If I can force sharing.04:28
len-dtThe only slot that shares is the one that shares with usb which I don't use.04:29
ailoSo, you were having issues only because of the IRQ number being too high04:30
len-dtailo, I very definately had xruns when downloading software when the NIC was using int 2304:30
ailoI still think something must be causing the problem, something at a lower number maybe04:31
ailoNIC?04:31
len-dtnetwork interface card04:31
ailoSomeone should make a hack to the kernel that makes these IRQ problems go away :)04:32
ailolen-dt: At least it would be interesting to see the difference for you, with or without the rtirq script04:33
len-dtailo, not sure what happened. Mouse vanished and things froze.04:34
ailolen-dt: If you could set the NIC card back where it was, and try with/withoutrtirq script04:35
ailoI will try to duplicate your problem04:35
ailoI have a wifi card I can use04:35
len-dtailo. ok, it will have to be another day.04:35
ailolen-dt: Also, it might be interesting to test the -realtime kernel as well, in aboganis repo04:37
len-dtThe ensoniq messed with things when it was higher too... even having the module loaded first seemed to make a difference.04:37
ailoIf the -realtime is better at solving this irq problem, than it would be bad news I think04:37
len-dtThe RT kernel might give me better -p 32 stuff... 04:38
ailoIf the -realtime is slightly better in general, then I think it's no problem04:38
len-dt-p 64 seems to be pretty stable even with PA-jack running.04:39
ailoBut, if it's clearly better at this IRQ stuff, than -lowlatency will be much more limited04:39
ailo-p 64 is a good lower limit I think, for the larger mass04:40
len-dtI have found that PA starts to use a lot of cpu as Jack's latency goes down04:40
ailoYes, but I don't think it causes any performance issues.04:41
len-dtBut if  I unload the jacksink module pulse seems to use next to nothing.04:41
ailoI mean, it doesn't result in any audio drop outs. For people who want to limit their CPU, it will happen only when they are using loads of resource demanding realtime audio processing software04:43
ailoAdvanced reverbs, that sort of thing04:43
len-dtI don't really know what the boundaries are. Synths use up resources pretty quick too. I found just playing too many notes at the wrong time took cpu to 100% and gave dropouts. I haven't really tried that since I moved cards though.04:45
ailoThat sounds bad.04:46
ailoI have very limited experience in various soft synths04:46
len-dtWell my son (6yrs) was basically leaning on the keyboard :-)04:46
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scott-worki see the studio images are being rebuilt and an "test the official RC" email went out14:21
acmeincIs anyone else noticing the xfce4 menu lacks an icon for Accessories and Internet?19:18
len-dtacmeinc1, and some others we don't have apps for. (education)19:30
scott-workacmeinc1:  is this a problem in today's iso image?20:27
* scott-work believes we have had icons for these menus in previous images, or would be very surprised if we didn't notice this before20:27
len-nbscott-work There are icons but they are default not menu item specific.21:04
len-nbIt is easy to miss, The default looks ok for accessories, but not for network.21:05
len-dtscott-work xfce-accessories.directory lists the icon as applications-accessories. a search of the /usr/share tree for *accessories* gets nothing.21:21
scott-worklen-dt: sorry if i'm slow on this, did something change some where along the line or has this been the behaviour for a while?21:21
len-dtcould have been for a while. because there is an icon showing it is not obvious. could be an xfce problem. I'm still looking. Just figured out I did the search wrong.21:23
len-dtHmm. there are icons.21:24
len-dtscott-work, what icon theme are we using?21:25
astraljavagreybird?21:25
len-dtastraljava, nope, not in the list. 21:27
len-dtelementry Xfce dark21:28
astraljavaAhh yeah. Sorry, I mixed the things up.21:29
len-dtNot much in there. Where does it default to for icons missing from the theme?21:29
astraljavaI have absolutely no idea. I have sort of relied on others for appearance issues,21:31
len-dtelementary-xfce has them.21:32
astraljavalen-dt: You will want to talk to ochosi on these matters. (better reachable on #xubuntu-devel)21:33
len-dtastraljava, elementary does not either and that should be the fall back.21:34
len-dtI think we were using the xfce one before.21:34
* len-dt has to pick up son from skool21:34
astraljavaCould be. Like I said, I have zero clues on such matters.21:35
scott-workleaving work now 21:40
len-dtastraljava, there is an index.theme in the elementary-xfce-dark directory. It says that it Inherits=elementary-xfce22:02
len-dtand elementary-xfce says Inherits=gnome,hicolor22:03
len-dtelementary-xfce has the icon we need... why doesn't it show?22:05
len-dtI wonder if size matters.22:07
len-dthicolor is supposed to be the falback theme, but it has no icons in catagoies at all.22:13
len-dtScottL, when you get home... I found it. In our menu file we include Utility.directory instead of xfce-accessories.directory, Education.directory instead of xfce-education.directory, Network.directory instead of xfce-network.directory, GnomeScience.directory has no equivalent.22:33
len-dtProbably... not sure, the science section could be eliminated. If the user installs a science program it would show as "other".22:36
ScottLlen-dt, good work!22:38
len-dtI think we lost them when we cleaned up some of the gnome stuff. It used to be there.22:38
ScottLmaybe micahg could advise if this can be handled before release or should resolved after with an SRU22:38
len-dtIn any case the other bugs with the same file should be fixed at the same time.22:39
* len-dt means other obvious bugs.22:42
len-dtother being zynjacku moved to synths frrom effects and xfce-mixer and mudita execpted from multi-media.22:48
len-dtScottL, I have a fixed file, can I send it to you?23:11
len-dtThe file is tested and works.23:13
ScottLi'm trying to save it locally23:25
ScottLlen-dt, can you try it again please23:26
ScottLokay, i said accepted and hit the save button so hope this works23:27
len-dtI am not seeing progress.23:28
len-dtI may have to email.23:28
len-dtIt timed out.23:30
len-dtScottL, the gmail account ok?23:33
len-dtScottL, sent it your email at gmail. I am not sure what went wrong with the transfer, but it timed out.23:39

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