[04:27] len-dt: I think it would be great if you're able to create a clear case of xruns due to IRQ sharing, and see whether the rtirq srcript helps or not [04:28] I should try to do that as well [04:28] ailo, sounds like work... [04:28] I don't know If I can force sharing. [04:29] The only slot that shares is the one that shares with usb which I don't use. [04:30] So, you were having issues only because of the IRQ number being too high [04:30] ailo, I very definately had xruns when downloading software when the NIC was using int 23 [04:31] I still think something must be causing the problem, something at a lower number maybe [04:31] NIC? [04:31] network interface card [04:32] Someone should make a hack to the kernel that makes these IRQ problems go away :) [04:33] len-dt: At least it would be interesting to see the difference for you, with or without the rtirq script [04:34] ailo, not sure what happened. Mouse vanished and things froze. [04:35] len-dt: If you could set the NIC card back where it was, and try with/withoutrtirq script [04:35] I will try to duplicate your problem [04:35] I have a wifi card I can use [04:35] ailo. ok, it will have to be another day. [04:37] len-dt: Also, it might be interesting to test the -realtime kernel as well, in aboganis repo [04:37] The ensoniq messed with things when it was higher too... even having the module loaded first seemed to make a difference. [04:37] If the -realtime is better at solving this irq problem, than it would be bad news I think [04:38] The RT kernel might give me better -p 32 stuff... [04:38] If the -realtime is slightly better in general, then I think it's no problem [04:39] -p 64 seems to be pretty stable even with PA-jack running. [04:39] But, if it's clearly better at this IRQ stuff, than -lowlatency will be much more limited [04:40] -p 64 is a good lower limit I think, for the larger mass [04:40] I have found that PA starts to use a lot of cpu as Jack's latency goes down [04:41] Yes, but I don't think it causes any performance issues. [04:41] But if I unload the jacksink module pulse seems to use next to nothing. [04:43] I mean, it doesn't result in any audio drop outs. For people who want to limit their CPU, it will happen only when they are using loads of resource demanding realtime audio processing software [04:43] Advanced reverbs, that sort of thing [04:45] I don't really know what the boundaries are. Synths use up resources pretty quick too. I found just playing too many notes at the wrong time took cpu to 100% and gave dropouts. I haven't really tried that since I moved cards though. [04:46] That sounds bad. [04:46] I have very limited experience in various soft synths [04:46] Well my son (6yrs) was basically leaning on the keyboard :-) === android is now known as jussi [14:21] i see the studio images are being rebuilt and an "test the official RC" email went out [19:18] Is anyone else noticing the xfce4 menu lacks an icon for Accessories and Internet? [19:30] acmeinc1, and some others we don't have apps for. (education) [20:27] acmeinc1: is this a problem in today's iso image? [20:27] * scott-work believes we have had icons for these menus in previous images, or would be very surprised if we didn't notice this before [21:04] scott-work There are icons but they are default not menu item specific. [21:05] It is easy to miss, The default looks ok for accessories, but not for network. [21:21] scott-work xfce-accessories.directory lists the icon as applications-accessories. a search of the /usr/share tree for *accessories* gets nothing. [21:21] len-dt: sorry if i'm slow on this, did something change some where along the line or has this been the behaviour for a while? [21:23] could have been for a while. because there is an icon showing it is not obvious. could be an xfce problem. I'm still looking. Just figured out I did the search wrong. [21:24] Hmm. there are icons. [21:25] scott-work, what icon theme are we using? [21:25] greybird? [21:27] astraljava, nope, not in the list. [21:28] elementry Xfce dark [21:29] Ahh yeah. Sorry, I mixed the things up. [21:29] Not much in there. Where does it default to for icons missing from the theme? [21:31] I have absolutely no idea. I have sort of relied on others for appearance issues, [21:32] elementary-xfce has them. [21:33] len-dt: You will want to talk to ochosi on these matters. (better reachable on #xubuntu-devel) [21:34] astraljava, elementary does not either and that should be the fall back. [21:34] I think we were using the xfce one before. [21:34] * len-dt has to pick up son from skool [21:35] Could be. Like I said, I have zero clues on such matters. [21:40] leaving work now [22:02] astraljava, there is an index.theme in the elementary-xfce-dark directory. It says that it Inherits=elementary-xfce [22:03] and elementary-xfce says Inherits=gnome,hicolor [22:05] elementary-xfce has the icon we need... why doesn't it show? [22:07] I wonder if size matters. [22:13] hicolor is supposed to be the falback theme, but it has no icons in catagoies at all. [22:33] ScottL, when you get home... I found it. In our menu file we include Utility.directory instead of xfce-accessories.directory, Education.directory instead of xfce-education.directory, Network.directory instead of xfce-network.directory, GnomeScience.directory has no equivalent. [22:36] Probably... not sure, the science section could be eliminated. If the user installs a science program it would show as "other". [22:38] len-dt, good work! [22:38] I think we lost them when we cleaned up some of the gnome stuff. It used to be there. [22:38] maybe micahg could advise if this can be handled before release or should resolved after with an SRU [22:39] In any case the other bugs with the same file should be fixed at the same time. [22:42] * len-dt means other obvious bugs. [22:48] other being zynjacku moved to synths frrom effects and xfce-mixer and mudita execpted from multi-media. [23:11] ScottL, I have a fixed file, can I send it to you? [23:13] The file is tested and works. [23:25] i'm trying to save it locally [23:26] len-dt, can you try it again please [23:27] okay, i said accepted and hit the save button so hope this works [23:28] I am not seeing progress. [23:28] I may have to email. [23:30] It timed out. [23:33] ScottL, the gmail account ok? [23:39] ScottL, sent it your email at gmail. I am not sure what went wrong with the transfer, but it timed out.