[07:27] <agateau> rbelem: hi, I installed your filesharing code and started the kcm, this is what I get: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/24/plasma-desktopn22638.png
[07:27] <agateau> rbelem: the "Add..." button does not do anything. Am I missing something?
[08:33] <Riddell> testers needed http://blogs.kde.org/node/4570
[08:33] <Riddell> !testers
[09:38] <dpm> Riddell, as per our conversation last week, did you have the chance to upload calligra-l10n overriding language packs? yurchor noticed that Calligra is still English-only
[09:40] <Riddell> dpm: yes let me verify
[09:41] <Riddell> calligra-l10n-fr is full of french files
[09:46] <Riddell> and calligrawords starts in french
[09:46] <yurchor> Riddell: So the translations did not appear on LP, just only in the real packages?
[09:47] <Riddell> yurchor: right
[09:47] <yurchor> Because I do not see Ukrainian translation on LP.
[09:47] <Riddell> that'll be because it's not in launchpad :)
[09:47] <yurchor> Could the templates for Calligra be switched off then to avoid confusion?
[09:47] <Riddell> nudge dpm for that
[09:48] <yurchor> Thanks.
[09:49] <dpm> yurchor, will do. To be sure, though, does Calligra start in Ukranian for you?
[09:51] <yurchor> Do not know. ;) The distribution is yours. I'm using MAgeia and testing Fedora. :)
[10:02] <Riddell> calligra-l10n-uk has loads of .po files in it
[10:10] <yurchor> Riddell: Amcharic KDE translator asked on UserBase about possibility to translate Calligra into his language (if I understood him right). http://userbase.kde.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Samson&offset=20120423184738&lqt_mustshow=1746#Translation_Kubuntu__1724
[10:10] <yurchor> Should I answer him that this is impossible on LP?
[10:11] <yurchor> *Amharic, for sure.
[10:15] <Riddell> yurchor: right, the best place to translate KDE software is through the kde mechanism
[10:15] <Riddell> l10n.kde.org
[10:16] <yurchor> Ok. Thanks.
[11:12] <jussi> seriously, is that horrid coloured wallpaper thing going to be there for release?
[11:13] <davmor2> jussi: in kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:16] <jussi> davmor2: kubuntu
[11:16] <jussi> its a horrible washed out blue thing
[11:16] <KRF> i liked the pink unicorn on April, 1st a few years ago
[11:16] <KRF> NOT.
[11:16] <jussi> hehe
[11:16] <jussi> was that apachelogger's idea?
[11:16] <KRF> most likely
[11:17] <KRF> he's into unicorns
[11:18] <jussi> still, this washed out blue is horribl
[11:18] <jussi> e
[11:30] <Riddell> jussi: ariya wallpaper is grey beams from bottom right
[11:31] <Riddell> nice and simple, I don't dislike it
[11:32] <jussi> Riddell: but the colour? and the plymouth background is what Im talking about, but its a similar colour - same as agateau's light dm thing
[11:38] <Riddell> jussi: yep greyish, boring but grey goes with everything
[11:39] <Riddell> oxygen team are responsible for that and apachelogger nicely synced the boot splash
[11:40] <jussi> Riddell: theres grey and there is horrible washed out blue grey :/
[11:45] <Riddell> jussi: of all the problems with this release I fear that's way down the list
[11:46] <jussi> Riddell: make it number 1!!! :P
[11:47] <Riddell> I shall inform launchpad team we have a new bug number 1
[11:47] <jussi> :D
[11:48] <Tm_T> "Kubuntu isn't blue enough"
[11:48] <jussi> yup
[11:48] <Tm_T> that's bug #1, there's no KDE without blue
[11:48] <Tm_T> ubottu: lies, we changed it
[11:49] <Tm_T> obviously not, trying to give the old number one... /:
[11:49] <jussi> Riddell: btw, what did you need a finnish speaker for the other day?
[11:51] <Riddell> jussi: I don't remember probably some finnish speaker had an issue
[11:53] <yofel_> jussi: be evil and make a RT for kubuntu and make it no.1 there :P
[11:53] <jussi> yofel: hahah
[11:53] <jussi> you how some people mod their cars...? 
[11:53] <jussi> http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/tuning74.jpg
[11:54]  * jussi giggles
[11:54] <yofel> lol
[11:57] <rbelem> agateau, it is just the ui for now. i will make the samba plugin today
[11:58] <rbelem> agateau, do you think the ui is ok?
[11:58] <rbelem> agateau, would you change anything?
[11:58] <agateau> rbelem: it looks ok, but it is a bit difficult to tell without any plugin content
[11:58] <agateau> rbelem: I only tested the kcm, is there something else I should try?
[12:00] <rbelem> agateau, just that... after the first plugin i will make the final changes
[12:00] <agateau> rbelem: ok
[12:15] <Riddell> debfx: around?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:45] <ScottK> claydoh: From #ubuntu-release: [07:53:27] <skaet> Riddell, ScottK,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu - can a first pass of content be added by end of today please?   Also,  I extracted some of the content on upgrading, requirements, etc. from some multiple community pages - it its wrong on this page,  it may need updating elsewhere.
[12:49] <ScottK> quassel has a 0.7.4 release meant to address compatibility issues with Qt 4.8.  It would be good if someone who cares about PPAs would upload that into the Qt 4.8 PPA for oneiric.
[13:14]  * Riddell nudges BluesKaj into iso testing
[13:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I think that except for the DVDs all tests got run at least once on one architecture.  I got as far as the live test on a DVD when there was a respin.
[13:16] <ScottK> (that's over the weekend - the current images still need revalidating, of course)
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Riddell, my test pc needs a new mobo , so it's out of commission for a while
[13:16] <Riddell> ScottK: great thanks for looking after things
[13:17] <Riddell> ScottK: my plans for today are alternates (in progress), DVDs, ARM and upgrades
[13:17] <Riddell> which I may or may not get through
[13:17] <ScottK> I can do some testing, but am limited to i386.
[13:18] <Riddell> then tomorrow filling in the blanks in test coverage
[13:18] <ScottK> So I'd suggest you focuse on amd64/arm.  I won't be able to do all of i386, but I can make a dent in it.
[13:18] <ScottK> Maybe yofel will do some more too.
[13:19] <Riddell> oh and active too but that's just a case of "does it run"
[13:19] <Riddell> I expect active still has an annoying 5 minute pause on startup but that's why we call it a preview
[13:21] <rbelem> Riddell, if we can remove kubuntu-default-settings from KDEDIRS in active it will start faster
[13:21] <Riddell> rbelem: yeah you said but too late for that I fear
[13:24] <rbelem> :'(
[13:25] <Riddell> rbelem: we'll release note it and it'll get fixed next time.  I tried balsam's active version and it has just as many problems so we're as good as them I'd say :)
[13:30] <rbelem> :-D
[14:03] <erfanian> I have two rather bugs I would like to report with the latest Beta2
[14:03] <erfanian> two bugs*
[14:04] <Riddell> erfanian: we're in testing mode today for release so I suspect the answer will be "have you treid the release candidates?"
[14:05] <erfanian> Riddell: Could you point me in the direction of the RC?
[14:05] <erfanian> And would the RC be the same as the latest update && upgrade?
[14:08] <TeLLuS> We are near release so I wounder if we will fix the mass chrashing of kmix, or wait untill 4.8.3. Maybe we could remove kmix for the 12.04 release if we dont fix it?  KDE bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290742
[14:08] <erfanian> I cannot tell if the bugs I found were system specific. Whenever I tried an alternative install with full disk encryption the installer would quit when it was installing packages. The other is that my screen edge function in KDE did not work in Beta 2, worked in Beta 1, then only the right hand corners worked.
[14:09] <erfanian> That kmix bug is incredibly annoying. I suffer from it as well.
[14:11] <TeLLuS> erfanian: I installed Natty with alt cd on this system with the encryption.. But before reboot I had to do some manual changes before reboot othewise it would not start again.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> erfanian, why don't you guys use alsamixer in the terminal instead , it's much more configurable ...kmix is just a gui for alsa anyway 
[14:12] <erfanian> TeLLuS: Did it crash installing packages and kick you back to the installer menu? What did you do after that.
[14:13] <TeLLuS> BluesKaj: Yes we chould use that but it is kmix that is installed as default.. and WE have to support it.. or rather remove it if it is not fixed before releease
[14:13] <erfanian> BluesKaj: Because I like using my multimedia keys :). Plus when I pulled the latest trunk from their SVN (before they moved to git) it was rock solid.
[14:14] <Riddell> erfanian: iso.qa.ubuntu.com has them
[14:14] <TeLLuS> BluesKaj: No installation worked but I had to use the menu install to do the changes of boot option for it to use thr right partition.. 
[14:15] <erfanian> Riddell: Thanks. I'll pull it this morning and come back here to report.
[14:15] <Riddell> TeLLuS: too late I'm afraid, I agree it's high prority and we should work out a fix for updates
[14:16] <BluesKaj> TeLLuS, personally I think kmix is redundant ..dunno why it needs support quite frankly 
[14:16] <Riddell> ...to change volume ?
[14:18] <TeLLuS> Riddell: yes, what is needed to do that?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> usually ppl set the volume at close to the max the ctrl it on their audio device , be they speakers or an amp 
[14:18] <BluesKaj>  then ctrl it 
[14:18] <Riddell> BluesKaj: that's not the behaviour I've observed
[14:19] <Riddell> TeLLuS: check if it has a bug in launchpad and mark it for precise-updates and high priority
[14:19] <BluesKaj> well, that's what they should do Riddell :)
[14:22] <yofel> BluesKaj: hard to do that on a notebook
[14:23] <yofel> + alsamixer doesn't support per-stream volume changing from pulseaudio
[14:24] <BluesKaj> yofel, what about voll ctrls on the KB ?
[14:24] <yofel> well, agreed, but missing pulse support still stands
[14:25] <yofel> (now don't ask me why we need pulseaudio)
[14:25] <erfanian> What plasma applet would replace kmix for control form the panel?
[14:26] <ScottK> kmix has been pretty stable here.
[14:26] <yofel> iirc there was a third party one that I forgot the name of. By default there isn't one
[14:26] <BluesKaj> yofel, well , in my case pulseaudio supports webaudio on my m-audio pci soundcard, otherwise I'd have no audio on websites
[14:27] <yofel> and I totally forgot to say that I haven't seen kmix crash in over a month - guess I don't use the broken parts
[14:27] <erfanian> Users are going to need some sort of panel option for volume, otherwise everyone will get confused.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> erfanian, not everyone :)
[14:31] <erfanian> BluesKaj: True.
[14:31] <erfanian> Be back in a bit.
[14:41] <ScottK> I'm going to start with the i386 DVD since that didn't get much testing over the weekend and I have bandwidth.
[14:44] <TeLLuS> Riddell: He, you reported the kmix bug a month ago on 4.8.1, set for the 12.04 milestone. It is #963895 for 4.8.1 and #981934 for 4.8.2..  I'm not allowed to mark it or change priority from what I could see, if you allow me..
[14:46] <Riddell> TeLLuS: thanks I had a feeling I had
[14:46] <Riddell> TeLLuS: I don't know how permissions work on bugs I think there's a team you need to be a member of
[14:46] <Riddell> bug 963895
[14:46] <Riddell> bug 981934
[14:47] <erfanian> Does anyone know more about how the home directory encryption works in the installer? I installed Beta2 with a separate /home partition, then installed Beta1 over that. I just used my same password and it managed to mount all my data again... but my gut tells me that shouldn't happen. I haven't tried looking at the data from a live CD yet to see if it's encyrpted at all.
[14:52] <Riddell> erfanian: it depends on the installer but if you don't format the partition then there shouldn't be a change
[14:56] <erfanian> Riddell: But if I didn't use the same password it shouldn't be able to get to the data, right?
[14:56] <Riddell> you just said that you did
[14:57] <Riddell> anyway the answer is "I don't know" I'm afraid
[14:57] <erfanian> Riddell: Indeed, I did use the same password. I was just wondering how they actual encryption scheme went. But thanks!
[14:58] <ScottK> Somewhere in there, there is a link between your user password and the decryption key.  Since Ubuntu installs do go to some length to prevserve /home, it doesn't surprise me it manages to preserve that as well.
[15:01] <yofel> Riddell: for reference - for importance changes you need to be a member of ubuntu-bug-control
[15:01] <yofel> TeLLuS: ^
[15:01] <TeLLuS> Riddell: Found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl   need to sign 
[15:02]  * Peace- now konqueror has a good browser identification...
[15:03] <Riddell> TeLLuS: need to sign what?
[15:03] <erfanian> ScottK: So then I should just use that password every time I do a clean install, and then change my user password later if need be. Good to know - thanks.
[15:03] <ScottK> You need to be careful about changing your password with an encrypted home.
[15:04] <ScottK> Changing the user password doesn't change the encryption key.
[15:04] <TeLLuS> Riddell: Sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[15:05] <erfanian> ScottK: I'll be sure to back up :)
[15:07] <TeLLuS> Now where did I put my gpg key, is it still valid.
[15:17] <erfanian> Riddell: I'm on the latest RC right now. The upper left screen edge action doesn't work but all the other corners do. Could be machine specific for some reason.
[15:17] <ScottK> Works here.
[15:18] <erfanian> It works for me when I set my screen resolution lower. I wonder if something is bizzare because it is a tablet pc.
[15:45] <agateau> Riddell: Hi! I have a small fix for lightdm-kde, and just released 0.1.1, should I file an SRU?
[15:46] <apol> what package provides the plasma components?
[15:46] <Riddell> agateau: yes please, you can join the queue behind tsdgeos 
[15:46] <agateau> Riddell: ok :)
[15:47] <tsdgeos> agateau: /me has the token
[15:47] <Riddell> apol: the qml widgets?  I don't know where is it upstream?
[15:47] <bulldog98> apol: all is kde-runtime or workspace
[15:47] <agateau> tsdgeos: /me waits :)
[15:47] <bulldog98> apol: kde-runtime
[15:48] <apol> Riddell: kde-runtime
[15:48] <apol> hm
[15:48] <apol> ok thanks
[15:49] <tsdgeos> agateau: so what's the benefit of lightdm-kde over say lighdm-nonkde or kdm?
[15:49] <Riddell> so could be kde-runtime-data
[15:49] <bulldog98> Riddell: it also has library stuff so you need both
[15:49] <Riddell> bulldog98: I'll leave you to answer the question I'm just guessing :)
[15:50] <agateau> tsdgeos: the other available (maintained) lightdm greeters are based on gtk or clutter, so having a plasma-components, qml-based one integrates better than them
[15:50] <agateau> tsdgeos: it even comes with a kcm
[15:51] <tsdgeos> i see
[15:51] <agateau> tsdgeos: compared to kdm, it is easier to theme, brings support for features like guest support, and hopefully soon, better power management
[15:51] <agateau> tsdgeos: but it still lacks some of kdm features
[15:52] <Riddell> and if upstream replaces kdm it's one less thing to maintain
[15:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Now would be the time we really need some amd64+mac image testing.
[15:54] <shadeslayer> Didn't I test those?
[15:54] <shadeslayer> I remember testing them
[15:54] <ScottK> Had to respin, so need retest.
[15:54] <shadeslayer> fooey
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ok, I'll test again
[15:54] <apol> bulldog98: do you know why it could be that a friend installed muon-discover from cyberspace ppa and when he runs the application Qt errors saying that plasma components are not there?
[15:54] <apol> its 11.10
[15:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[15:54] <shadeslayer> derp, I'll have to download it again, I put the ISO onto my external HDD and then gave it someone
[15:58] <Riddell> agateau: ok you have the token, what do you need?
[15:58] <agateau> Riddell: a patch applied on lightdm-kde
[15:59] <agateau> Riddell: or a package update for 0.1.1
[15:59] <Riddell> agateau: got a bug with the patch on it for me?
[15:59] <Riddell> or the link to 0.1.1
[15:59] <agateau> Riddell: I have a KDE bug report for it, I can attach the patch there
[16:00] <Riddell> agateau: SRUs need one on launchpad too
[16:00] <agateau> Riddell: the 0.1.1 tarball is waiting in KDE ftp server to be moved to the right place by the sysadmins
[16:00] <agateau> but I can push it somewhere else meanwhile
[16:01] <Riddell> agateau: I'll do it now if you get me the tar
[16:01] <Riddell> and the bug on lp
[16:01] <agateau> Riddell: I have filed a few SRU in the past, I can do the work and subscribe you to the bug
[16:02]  * agateau uploads the tarball to his "people" page
[16:02] <agateau> Riddell: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/tmp/lightdm-kde-0.1.1.tar.bz2
[16:05] <Riddell> agateau: mm that's not SRU-able http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/lightdm-kde_0.1.1-0ubuntu1.debdiff
[16:05] <Riddell> that's got a whole new theme item in it
[16:05] <Riddell> agateau: do you have a minimal patch for the problem?
[16:06] <agateau> Riddell: mmm, weird
[16:06] <agateau> Riddell: I can produce a minimal patch
[16:06] <Riddell> what's weird?
[16:07] <agateau> Riddell: I did not expect theme changes
[16:07] <agateau> Riddell: need to look at the history to see what happened
[16:07] <agateau> Riddell: I am filling the bug, and preparing the patch
[16:07] <Riddell> groovy
[16:09] <BluesKaj> wish there was a patch for kmail crashes
[16:09] <BluesKaj> absolutely nothing on launchpad , altho it's been files
[16:09] <BluesKaj> filed
[16:10] <ScottK> kubuntu-full takes a long time to install, even from USB onto an SSD.
[16:11] <Riddell> ScottK: from a DVD image?
[16:11] <ScottK> Yes.
[16:12] <Riddell> ScottK: we need to look at our dvd images for the next release, ubuntu have simplified theirs.  related issue as dropping the cd limit
[16:12] <ScottK> Yes.
[16:12] <ScottK> I would like to look very hard at dropping the alternates again.
[16:12] <Riddell> agreed
[16:12] <ScottK> There's just a few things we need to get platform to teach Ubiquity to do.
[16:13] <yofel> can we keep d-i on the dvd's?
[16:13] <Riddell> yofel: why?
[16:13] <Riddell> ubuntu doesn't
[16:13] <yofel> yeah, but they'll keep the alternate images - or won't they?
[16:14] <Riddell> dunno all for discussion but not heard of wanting to drop them
[16:14] <ScottK> Having  D-I based image is useful.
[16:14] <Riddell> is it useful when there's netboot?
[16:14] <Riddell> which uses d-i
[16:15] <ScottK> Dunno.
[16:15] <yofel> anyone tried what usb-creator-kde does with the mini.iso?
[16:15] <ScottK> Nope.
[16:15] <Riddell> yofel: try it try it!
[16:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I think we should take wubi off the Kubuntu images and get rid of those test cases (which none of us can test).
[16:16] <Riddell> ScottK: because there's a problem or because we can't test it?
[16:16] <maco> if it needs testing, i can maybe hijack my boyfriend's computer
[16:16] <ScottK> Because it provides very little, if any benefit and it's a source of trouble.
[16:16] <Riddell> if it's just that we can't test it I expect blue systems can help there in future
[16:16] <Riddell> maco: hijack away!
[16:16] <yofel> let's see
[16:17] <maco> he's been saying he wants a dual boot anyway. or his windows vm. or get annalee to do it on her desktop...
[16:17] <ScottK> jibel and balloons are looking for someone, but if maco can do it, that'd be great.
[16:17]  * yofel wonders if he could use his ancient XP VM to test that
[16:17] <maco> hmm need to poke annalee into this channel
[16:17] <ScottK> Riddell: Also, you can't install from wubi on the image anymore anyway.  It just tells you to go download the real wubi and use that.
[16:17] <Riddell> ScottK: er that's weird
[16:18] <maco> bah?
[16:18] <ScottK> It's wubi.
[16:18] <maco> ok if thats all its gonna do then i vote removing it
[16:18] <ScottK> There was some Rick Spencer thread on ubuntu-devel about it awhile ago.
[16:18] <maco> because thats stupid
[16:18] <maco> and here, i just deleted all my unread ubuntu-devel stuff from my email a couple days
[16:18] <maco> aog
[16:18] <maco> *ago
[16:19] <yofel> +1 for removal too then
[16:19] <agateau> Riddell: I created the 0.1.1 tarball from the wrong branch :(... Can you try again http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/tmp/lightdm-kde-0.1.1.tar.bz2
[16:20] <yofel> usb-creator-kde doesn't do anything with the mini.iso
[16:20] <yofel> doesn't even recognise it as one
[16:20] <yofel> dd should work I guess
[16:20] <maco> usb-creator only knows about desktop cds, i think
[16:20] <Riddell> maco: it can do alternates too
[16:20] <yofel> nope, alternate images work too
[16:20] <maco> itd also freak out at alternate cds
[16:20] <maco> oh
[16:20] <maco> is that new?
[16:21] <maco> i thought it didnt like those before
[16:21] <Riddell> agateau: much more sane http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/lightdm-kde_0.1.1-0ubuntu1.debdiff
[16:21] <Riddell> agateau: got a launchpad bug for me?
[16:22] <Riddell> maco: I've been using it for alternates for ages
[16:22] <maco> ok *shrug*
[16:22] <ScottK> It works on dvds too.
[16:22] <agateau> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-kde/+bug/987910 not ready for SRU yet, though
[16:27] <agateau> Riddell: I am updating the bug to include SRU info, you are not doing it on your side, right?
[16:29] <Riddell> agateau: I've uploaded to precise-proposed and attached the debdiff
[16:29] <Riddell> agateau: so when you're happy you can just subscribe ~ubuntu-sru
[16:29] <agateau> Riddell: great, thanks
[16:37] <agateau> Riddell: just subscribed ubuntu-sru
[16:47] <ScottK> Riddell: I thought you were going to focus on amd64?
[16:47] <yofel> ScottK: I'll do the amd64 dvd tests
[16:48] <ScottK> Excellent.
[16:50] <ScottK> Riddell: Let me know what you're not getting to on i386 and I'll pick it up.  I'm about to start the last i386 dvd test.
[17:03]  * Peace- test his lprinter-qt and prints openoffice documents from dolphin
[17:03] <Peace-> +s
[17:09] <jussi> Peace-: you print documents from dolphins? (or where did you intend that s to go :P )
[17:10] <Peace-> jussi: yea expecially if i have a lots
[17:10] <Peace-> jussi: :) https://launchpad.net/~nowardev/+archive/ppa/+build/3420409/+files/kde-service-menu-lprinterqt_0.5.3-1ubuntu0%7Eppa1_all.deb
[17:10] <jussi> hehe
[17:11] <Peace-> it prints picture and openoffice documetns and pdf too
[17:11] <Peace-> prints with fit to page*
[17:11] <jussi> is the nvidia driver broken currently?
[17:13] <yofel> I've heard of nvidia issues in #ubuntu+1 lately, but can't remember anything specific
[17:13] <jussi> hrm, I found a bug...
[17:14] <jussi> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/24/plasma-desktopdu2660.png
[17:14] <jussi> whats wrong with that dialog
[17:14] <jussi> (hint: tell me which driver is which...)
[17:15] <yofel> you're looking at nvidia-173 (and yeah, that's crappy)
[17:16] <yofel> and there *should* be a recommended one o.O
[17:16]  * jussi reports a bug
[17:17] <Peace-> xD
[17:18] <jussi> hrm, I should update first...
[17:18] <jussi> havent been on this pc for a while
[17:18] <jussi> (400 updates...)
[17:22]  * ScottK starts on Kubuntu alternate tests.
[17:22] <ScottK> (i386)
[17:23] <Peace-> anyone can test to create a manual partition with destkop version ?
[17:23] <Peace-> i got a crash on betas
[17:23] <Peace-> so i have installed with alternate...
[17:24] <yofel> Peace-: 32 or 64 bit?
[17:24] <Peace-> 32
[17:24] <yofel> meaning http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds/15942/testcases/54/results - up for taking so far
[17:38] <sealne> is anyone else seeing on precise akonadi_mailfilter use all the cpu and ram/swap on startup making the pc unuasble for about an hour each boot, its so bad for me that i can't even move the mouse
[17:38] <sealne> it also happened on oneric after 4.8.1
[17:40] <ScottK> sealne: Yes.
[17:41] <sealne> cool, not just me then :-/
[17:43] <ScottK> I deleted all the data and reimported and that cleared it up.
[17:44] <sealne> thats handy to know i wondered about that but its a big job, i'll try that at some suitable time then
[17:44] <ScottK> KDE Bug 298626
[17:45] <ScottK> I get the 100% CPU before the crash.
[17:45] <sealne> yeah it was always crashing for me after it unfroze aswell
[17:46] <sealne> for the last while i've just been logining in and quickly typing akonadictl stop ;) but using webmail is frustrating
[17:46] <ScottK> Please comment in the bug.
[17:47] <sealne> the problem i've had about reporting was that its all kind of vague
[17:47] <ScottK> I'm leaving the Dr. Konqui window open so it doesn't restart and then removed the mailfilter using akonadiconsole.
[17:47] <ScottK> The rest of it still works.
[17:53] <Peace-> ScottK: you can install kdm themes ?
[17:53] <Peace-> it seems i can't 
[17:53] <ScottK> I haven't tried. I always just use the default.
[17:53] <Peace-> it seeems a permission bug
[17:53] <Peace-> but i am not sure
[17:54] <Peace-> ScottK: if you can confirm i will fill a bug
[17:55] <ScottK> Sorry.  Don't have time to look into it.
[17:55] <Peace-> oh ok 
[17:57] <yurchor> Hi! I have tested Beta 2 and today's ISO (386 ans amd64). All Live images have Bug 945461. Is this a known issue?
[17:58] <ScottK> yurchor: I don't think so.
[17:58] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[18:17] <TeLLuS> FYI After upgrade I got akonadi_kdeaccounts_resource crashed with SIGSEGV     Disassembly: => 0x7f9b5c261c1b: Cannot access memory at address 0x7f9b5c261c1b    so with no good stacktrace  retracing failed and made the bug invalid..     Under Akonadi resources I found "KDE Accounts" and have now removed it.. I don't know what it is but without it I do not get any crash from it after login..
[18:34]  * yofel is tired of debugging kmail
[18:34] <yofel> anyone an idea what to do with http://paste.kde.org/462944 ? I reliably get that when first starting Kontact after installation
[18:35] <yofel> acutally, you get that in the live session as well
[18:36] <yofel> nothing seems really broken, just the messages are scary
[18:40] <ScottK> What happens if you mkdir /home/yofel/.local/share/contacts/ and then reboot?
[18:53] <yofel> ScottK: warning gone (as expected)
[18:53] <yofel> and that's the only one that keeps coming after a reboot otherwise. The others seem to be first-run-only
[18:55] <ScottK> Seems like a skeleton file issue then.
[18:55] <ScottK> (which I'm not sure how KDE handles)
[20:20] <claydoh> ScottK: got it sorry I am behind, I am getting it done right now
[20:22] <ScottK> claydoh: Excellent.
[20:25] <ScottK> Everything I have hardware/OS for is tested.
[20:25]  * ScottK prods at shadeslayer again.
[20:27] <nixternal> HEY! MY FREAKING BEATS AUDIO SUBWOOFER DOESN'T WORK WITH 12.04! YOU CAN'T RELEASE THIS STUFF, IT ISN'T READY!!!!!!!!
[20:27] <nixternal> ;p
[20:32] <BluesKaj> nixternal, make sure it's plugged in :)
[20:35] <Riddell> claydoh: you're onto the release announcement?
[20:36] <ScottK> He is.
[20:36] <Riddell> excellent
[20:36] <ScottK> Riddell: I think we got enough testing on the powerpc desktop image to release it with some heavy "not thoroughly tested" cavets.
[20:37] <Riddell> I think my tsk list for this evening is dvd amd64 oem install, upgrade testing and then take a look at the release notes
[20:37] <ScottK> I sent the tester (who is unknown to me) mail via LP thanking them for the testing and asking for me.
[20:37] <claydoh> Riddell: yes, both the one in Ubuntu's format and one we might be able to use on the website
[20:37] <ScottK> me/more
[20:37] <Riddell> claydoh: awesomeness
[20:38] <yofel> btw. you can ignore that failure for the amd64 desktop image - that issue's known since natty
[20:39] <Riddell> I was planning to :)
[20:39] <Riddell> nice to see grue still testing arm for us too
[21:21] <claydoh> Riddell: ScottK regarding the 384mb ram minimun system specs, is that still accurate?
[21:21] <Riddell> claydoh: dunno we haven't done any tests
[21:22] <claydoh> Riddell: my personal experience says 1gb min :D but I am one dude
[21:22] <Riddell> claydoh: keep it for now until someone does some tests, no point in making up a figure
[21:22] <claydoh> Riddell: ok
[21:26] <ScottK> Lowest ram system I have is 1GB.
[21:26] <Riddell> ScottK: mem=500MB on the boot arguments would be the way to test it
[21:27] <Riddell> but it's a slow time consuming thing to do
[21:37] <ScottK> I can do that tonight.
[21:37] <ScottK> (I've tested everything I can test already)
[21:51] <Riddell> ScottK: how come you don't have an amd64 machine?
[22:08] <Riddell> claydoh: I think I need to go to bed now, do you have everything you need?
[22:09] <claydoh> yes, I just finished the ubuntu wiki notes no9w
[22:09] <claydoh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[22:09] <claydoh> for critiquing 
[22:09] <claydoh> ok where is mah spel cheker
[22:10] <Riddell> lovely thanks
[22:11] <Riddell> we'll need to collate all the bugs we care about onto the release notes
[22:11] <claydoh> yes
[22:11] <Riddell> claydoh: for terminology I use "release notes" for that ubuntu page which is more a technical description and "release announce" for the nice readable page to go on the website
[22:12] <claydoh> Riddell: ok, 
[22:12] <claydoh> makes sense
[22:12] <Riddell> also todo check the upgrade docs page
[22:12] <Riddell> (just a note to self)
[22:13]  * Riddell snoozes 
[22:21] <drtwox> Can we revert to a working nvidia binary driver before release? nvidia-current (295.40) causes many issues for some users: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4ODQ
[23:05] <ScottK> I don't have one that's available for testing.
[23:06] <ScottK> drtwox: We just do whatever Ubuntu does on that.
[23:06] <ScottK> Nothing Kubuntu specific we can do.
[23:09] <drtwox> What about konqueror issues? Report here?
[23:11] <drtwox> The konqueror option 'Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally' doesn't work anymore. Links opened from other applications always open a new window instead of an existing Konqeueror instance.
[23:11] <ScottK> File bugs at bugs.kde.org.
[23:11] <ScottK> I don't think that's our fault.
[23:14] <drtwox> Okay, thanks for the feedback!
[23:16]  * ScottK has a MEM=384MB install in progress.
[23:22] <ScottK> Riddell and claydoh: It worked.  Assuming I used the parameter correctly, 384MB is still possible.